We used this systen in the swjss army alpine troups along to end 1990 years, but its originally only for solid fuel tablets like esbit or else, and it works also wit the swiss army notkocher71, but we never used the borde flaschenkocher as a hobo stove, its only normal aluminium
I have taken mine hunting. I set up my stove and lit a small fuel tablet to get a flame going. Then added small twigs and dead leaves lying around. It works very well. I like it
They are good little burners originally meant for alpine troops which is why they use a cork as the screw threads don’t freeze. The zig zag handle when in use on the burner fits on an ice axe when stuck in the snow. You have to be careful burning twigs as it can melt the aluminium as they were designed to burn solid fuel tablets. Think I am going to have to get mine out now :)
As you asked for hacks, I've had mine for over 5 years, and whilst I haven't altered the stove itself, I have cut down the height of the cork so I can fit a homemade meths (alcohol) burner, the same design as the Trangia burner, made out of drinks cans (loads of RUclips how to make videos). The burner is upside down, the cork and bottle top fitting inside its fuel reservoir, the cup over that for packing the stove up. I found my Trangia burner too fierce, the flames coming out of the top vents, this one is just right and boils a mug full of water (about half way up the stove's pot) in about 2.5 minutes. As that's aluminium, unless you want sensitive burned lips, you have to wait for it to cool before drinking. I stretch a charity silicone wristband around which insulates so I can drink immediately. A lid is beneficial, and I fortunately already had an old Trangia kettle (the smallest one) the lid of which fits it like it was made for it. I drilled three holes side by side on one edge for draining water off pasta, and one hole on the opposite edge to allow air in. I mention this in case anyone has a small camping kettle they don't use or can borrow a lid from. I have another small kettle with a smaller lid and that fits lower down inside resting on the indent. I like the cork, they've been used for centuries for bottle stoppers and they don't leak. I've never had a problem. I put it lightly in the bottle when I want to put the bottle in the stove (it rests on the part of the wire handle that fits in the hole) to boil a larger quantity of water. The cork increases pressure, the water boils faster and pops out to release pressure on boiling. The cork in too tight and you may lose the cork as it pops out and launches into the heights 😄. A cord fixed to it and tied around the bottles neck would be a good mod to ensure you don't lose it. As I like to hold the pot by its sides, rather than the handle, I made a cosy for it. I made a template out of paper that matched the pot below the indent, then traced it onto the foil backed polystyrene foam used for reflective wall insulation behind wall radiators. I covered it in gaffer tape. There is no bottom to the cosy so the wire handle can still clip over the pot for packing. The cosy also keeps drinks hotter for longer. The cosy also covers any sooting, however I don't bother with a stuff sack, I just wipe any loose soot off with grass or leaves and use a damp cloth or small scouring sponge to wipe the pot and stove over after use. My pot is left permanently black, no heat is reflected and is totally absorbed. On a backpacking trek or long day hike I carry another litre of water and the stove is strapped vertically to my backpack so I can quickly bget it to make a hot drink or access its water. If my other bottle runs out, it's my reserve. Those are my tips and what works for me. 🙂
Had one of these for a few years now in a gear tote and for some reason haven't ever actually used it. More of an oversight and lack of time thing really. I love the idea of it.
been on the go since 1922 the newzealand army issued all troops with them i have had mine at least 20 years it gets used a lot in all a good bit of kit
Looks like a nice bit of gear. I've been a member of the Swiss army for 20 years (militia, not pro) and never saw one of these! I guess it must have come out after 2005 or, considering the cork lid, more likely before the 70-ties. But that is just a guess! What life expectancy do you give the aluminum?
Think if you keep the heat normal and don’t abuse it with high temp man made stuff or don’t go crazy with the flames it should last a few years but they are also affordable that any issues just pick up a new one. Thanks for watching
We used this systen in the swjss army alpine troups along to end 1990 years, but its originally only for solid fuel tablets like esbit or else, and it works also wit the swiss army notkocher71, but we never used the borde flaschenkocher as a hobo stove, its only normal aluminium
I have taken mine hunting. I set up my stove and lit a small fuel tablet to get a flame going. Then added small twigs and dead leaves lying around. It works very well. I like it
Thanks and thanks for watching
They are good little burners originally meant for alpine troops which is why they use a cork as the screw threads don’t freeze. The zig zag handle when in use on the burner fits on an ice axe when stuck in the snow. You have to be careful burning twigs as it can melt the aluminium as they were designed to burn solid fuel tablets. Think I am going to have to get mine out now :)
Lots of useful info thank you 🙏🏻
As you asked for hacks, I've had mine for over 5 years, and whilst I haven't altered the stove itself, I have cut down the height of the cork
so I can fit a homemade meths (alcohol) burner, the same design as the Trangia burner, made out of drinks cans (loads of RUclips how to make videos). The burner is upside down, the cork and bottle top fitting inside its fuel reservoir, the cup over that for packing the stove up. I found my Trangia burner too fierce, the flames coming out of the top vents, this one is just right and boils a mug full of water (about half way up the stove's pot) in about 2.5 minutes. As that's aluminium, unless you want sensitive burned lips, you have to wait for it to cool before drinking. I stretch a charity silicone wristband around which insulates so I can drink immediately.
A lid is beneficial, and I fortunately already had an old Trangia kettle (the smallest one) the lid of which fits it like it was made for it. I drilled three holes side by side on one edge for draining water off pasta, and one hole on the opposite edge to allow air in. I mention this in case anyone has a small camping kettle they don't use or can borrow a lid from. I have another small kettle with a smaller lid and that fits lower down inside resting on the indent.
I like the cork, they've been used for centuries for bottle stoppers and they don't leak. I've never had a problem. I put it lightly in the bottle when I want to put the bottle in the stove (it rests on the part of the wire handle that fits in the hole) to boil a larger quantity of water. The cork increases pressure, the water boils faster and pops out to release pressure on boiling. The cork in too tight and you may lose the cork as it pops out and launches into the heights 😄. A cord fixed to it and tied around the bottles neck would be a good mod to ensure you don't lose it.
As I like to hold the pot by its sides, rather than the handle, I made a cosy for it. I made a template out of paper that matched the pot below the indent, then traced it onto the foil backed polystyrene foam used for reflective wall insulation behind wall radiators. I covered it in gaffer tape. There is no bottom to the cosy so the wire handle can still clip over the pot for packing. The cosy also keeps drinks hotter for longer.
The cosy also covers any sooting, however I don't bother with a stuff sack, I just wipe any loose soot off with grass or leaves and use a damp cloth or small scouring sponge to wipe the pot and stove over after use. My pot is left permanently black, no heat is reflected and is totally absorbed.
On a backpacking trek or long day hike I carry another litre of water and the stove is strapped vertically to my backpack so I can quickly bget it to make a hot drink or access its water. If my other bottle runs out, it's my reserve.
Those are my tips and what works for me. 🙂
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing, I have never heard of these bur they are perfect for what I need.
Glad my video helped someone
Had one of these for a few years now in a gear tote and for some reason haven't ever actually used it. More of an oversight and lack of time thing really. I love the idea of it.
Give it a go. It’s actually pretty efficient but not pretty looking
Thanks for the video on the rocket stove 👍 I'm a Yank living in the US. I like watching your videos thank you
Thanks for watching. I am a yank living in the uk 👍🏼
another great vid Joe, thank you, another item to consider, your no nonsense approach is always easy to watch,
Thanks for the nice comment. People want mini tv shows or story time but I rather just be straight to the point. Thanks for watching
I've been wanting to try one of those stoves for a long time, looks like it works great
Yeah boiled faster than I thought it would with no lid. Thanks for watching
That's a nice design.
Thanks for sharing.
Regards
Clive
Thanks for watching 👍🏼
been on the go since 1922 the newzealand army issued all troops with them i have had mine at least 20 years it gets used a lot in all a good bit of kit
I use this with an alcohol stove made out of 2 beer cans. Fits right down
Good idea. Might try that
I like those stoves. Nice review.
Thanks and thanks for watching
The aluminum cup looks as if it would be a lip burner. How fast does it cool to allow drinking?
Looks good
Thanks 🙏🏻
Kindly make video on Flint and steel
I was waiting to see you use cat-tails as tinder. Looks like a not bad set. Thank you for the review, Joe
I was go to use the cedar bark but the fire plugs are really good
It’s a great stove and a great price
The only thing to replace is the cork on the bottle
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Yup that’s my issue
Ordered one
Ah cool glad you like it
Looks like a nice bit of gear. I've been a member of the Swiss army for 20 years (militia, not pro) and never saw one of these! I guess it must have come out after 2005 or, considering the cork lid, more likely before the 70-ties. But that is just a guess! What life expectancy do you give the aluminum?
Think if you keep the heat normal and don’t abuse it with high temp man made stuff or don’t go crazy with the flames it should last a few years but they are also affordable that any issues just pick up a new one. Thanks for watching
@@prepperinthewoodsProbably not cheap any more.
Am wondering if one of those Grolsch beer bottle that spring open/close would work on the bottle.
I’ll try to measure the opening and let you know
How tall is it when put together?
10 and a half inches. 👍🏼
@@prepperinthewoods thank you 👍
A Kelly Kettle works better... so does a Ghillie Kettle.
Yup I have a kettle kettle just wanted to try something different
Stuff sack or plastic bread bag.
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