You are now responsible for me wanting the Proton twice as bad as I did. It was hilarious, just as I was thinking "I should see if he has a video using the Neutron and proton together", You patched them together... I want to get into modular but I find it very daunting, so I got the neutron to start and figured I'd get the proton later for the chance to build a synth with 4 osc, 3 filters, 3 lfo's, 4 enveloppes, etc. I see it as an opportunity to learn how to patch with the option to say fuck it and return to just having 2 great-sounding analog synths. On the other hand, if patching turns out to be something I like, then, that same synth could also go through a Moog or Roland filter, a myriad of amazing effects, or I could get some FM osc setup and feed it through all the same treatment, and that's just remaining on the more sane side of those devilish patch cords. My biggest fear is for my wallet....I may like it too much. Thanks for a very well-executed demo.
Spoiler: You'll like patching, say goodbye to your wallet, lol. Now being serious: If you don't fall into the trend of buying the new super expensive module, you can have lots of fun with many of the cheap. All Doepfer are dope, and not expensive at all. Also Behringer's modules are very cheap, great value for money. I recommend you to start with basic tools, don't go for the crazy stuff. @MonotrailTechTalk is great channel for that, highly recommended.
@@DeepSpaceus Oh...I get what it's like....That's what I'm worried about. At the same time, using 2 units like these 2 already gives you a whole lot of sonic capabilities already. Grab almost any Moog semi where you can patch into the filter and you're golden. That setup will give you a 1/2-hour live gig by playing 3 notes and tweaking stuff.😂
I got mine 2 days ago but i gonna have to send it back cause of the size of knobs(they are really small and look like toy IRL, it was big supprise cause on youtube it looks like its regular) and amount of time needed to get good sound out of it. It's beast and has lot of potential but can't really get it to fit my workflow. Wanted something to have as first hardware unit and tried out Edge+Crave combo first and then Proton now. Finaly i decided to get Minifreak + Edge as the entry synth combo :). Crave had some nasty white noise bleed with and without patched ext audio input.
I've to test it deeper, but at first glance it didn't surprise me much. The oscillators seem to be quieter than the Neutron until you turn on the subs, then they get really punchy. The filters too, it appeared me to be darker and the resonance not as "screamy" but it clips the signal before when you turn it up. I still have to try the soft mode carefully, and many other features. I bought it to be a toolbox for my modular setup, so I only tested it the very basic stand-alone features.
Really want to see/hear some more cross patching with the neutron. I can totally see myself getting a 2 teir rack for that. Not a modular guy but ive lost many hours on the neutron...
@@decimal1815 sure, I had the same reaction. This is just out of the box and didn't RTFM, so it's like any user tweaking knobs for the first contact. I'm playing a bit deeper today and I'm starting to like it.
It's downfall is the lack of more attenuators , unless you add external ones , it was my main gripe on neutron but now the balance is worse on proton , were do you level osc's instead of just one mix balance , where do you level out cv's from the patchbay, not thought out well this synth
I don't think a Proton is on my short list for now, but I could see adding one to the herd somewhere down the road. It sounds a bit cleaner and warmer than the Neutron to my ear, until you deliberately push it into dirtier territory.
I've to test it deeper, but at first glance it didn't surprise me much. The oscillators seem to be quieter than the Neutron until you turn on the subs, then they get really punchy. The filters too, it appeared me to be darker and the resonance not as "screamy" but it clips the signal before when you turn it up. I still have to try the soft mode carefully, and many other features. I bought it to be a toolbox for my modular setup, so I only tested it the very basic stand-alone features.
@@clonn I make some pretty cool triads with my 3 neutrons running together. Also cool 1 and 5 power chords. There is vids on YT of others doing the same.
Really don't understand the design philosophy of making the LFO shape knob bigger than everything else..?? If it's so important, why share it between 2 LFO modules?
To be fair, the Taiga costs twice as much and doesn't have a patchable folder, different beast. Not knocking the Taiga, it sounds phenomenal but it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison.
@@PatternRecognitionMusic No, im just comparing the wavefolding part.. i was hoping it would sound as good... I think there are shape patchpoints on the Taiga though... Edit: and normalled to the lfo it seems... I'm a bit confused by the terminology though: waveshaping/wavefolding after rewatching the interview on sonic state with the guys from pittsburg...
Always encouraging to see Behringer make something that isn’t a clone, and sounds good!
I have personally been so back and forth with my pre-order and I believe this video has sealed the deal
Glad to hear it helped.
Finally someone with Proton. 😍😍😍
Wavefolder sounds superb. Great demo, thanks.
Thanks man. Having tested another wavefolder with the Neutron I've to say this one sounds very mild in comparison.
exactly what i was curious about
Thanks for the vid.i guess i gotya get this to go with my neutron and edge.look like a proper plugin geek then lol😃
It sounds great for heavier techno perfect!
I find the Neutron more brutal, but this can be wild too.
Mine arrives TODAY.... This has me jazzed to get going, especially the drone/noise near the end.
Very nice. Thanks for the upload.
thanks for your demo!
Well good, thanks for uploading.
Merci à toi K!!
Buena review, parece que has roto el RUclips con el Proton! ⚡
@@ombracle bastante improvisada. Pero tú de eso sabes ;)
Oportunista también.
Thanks for the video!🍻
Wowzer. It has so many options for patching.
NICE 😮SOUNDS
nice one really!
Why there are too many popping sounds (even at the beginning with the very slow loop)?! Is it the envelopes?!
Guess it’s one of the most exciting Behringer synth
Thanks Bruv
You are now responsible for me wanting the Proton twice as bad as I did.
It was hilarious, just as I was thinking "I should see if he has a video using the Neutron and proton together", You patched them together...
I want to get into modular but I find it very daunting, so I got the neutron to start and figured I'd get the proton later for the chance to build a synth with 4 osc, 3 filters, 3 lfo's, 4 enveloppes, etc. I see it as an opportunity to learn how to patch with the option to say fuck it and return to just having 2 great-sounding analog synths.
On the other hand, if patching turns out to be something I like, then, that same synth could also go through a Moog or Roland filter, a myriad of amazing effects, or I could get some FM osc setup and feed it through all the same treatment, and that's just remaining on the more sane side of those devilish patch cords.
My biggest fear is for my wallet....I may like it too much. Thanks for a very well-executed demo.
Spoiler: You'll like patching, say goodbye to your wallet, lol.
Now being serious: If you don't fall into the trend of buying the new super expensive module, you can have lots of fun with many of the cheap. All Doepfer are dope, and not expensive at all. Also Behringer's modules are very cheap, great value for money. I recommend you to start with basic tools, don't go for the crazy stuff. @MonotrailTechTalk is great channel for that, highly recommended.
You can always start with VCV Rack on your computer to learn and get a feel for what modular is like. It is free to get started.
@@DeepSpaceus Oh...I get what it's like....That's what I'm worried about.
At the same time, using 2 units like these 2 already gives you a whole lot of sonic capabilities already. Grab almost any Moog semi where you can patch into the filter and you're golden.
That setup will give you a 1/2-hour live gig by playing 3 notes and tweaking stuff.😂
Is this normal to have so muck clicks and popping?
Got mine, crazy thing!!!
I got mine 2 days ago but i gonna have to send it back cause of the size of knobs(they are really small and look like toy IRL, it was big supprise cause on youtube it looks like its regular) and amount of time needed to get good sound out of it. It's beast and has lot of potential but can't really get it to fit my workflow. Wanted something to have as first hardware unit and tried out Edge+Crave combo first and then Proton now. Finaly i decided to get Minifreak + Edge as the entry synth combo :). Crave had some nasty white noise bleed with and without patched ext audio input.
I dont think you gave it a good chance
Is it wider in size than the neutron?
No, it's the same size. Looks a bit wider because of perspective.
Awesome thanks for confirming, planning to have them both in a little wooden stand so thats good to know
#Behringer … kicking 🦵 major ahssssz
Overall how do you like it. Any shortcomings you can think of?
I've to test it deeper, but at first glance it didn't surprise me much. The oscillators seem to be quieter than the Neutron until you turn on the subs, then they get really punchy. The filters too, it appeared me to be darker and the resonance not as "screamy" but it clips the signal before when you turn it up. I still have to try the soft mode carefully, and many other features. I bought it to be a toolbox for my modular setup, so I only tested it the very basic stand-alone features.
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Subbing for more Proton content.
@@noahward9445 I'm on it.
The next one should be fully yellow
Really want to see/hear some more cross patching with the neutron. I can totally see myself getting a 2 teir rack for that. Not a modular guy but ive lost many hours on the neutron...
I'll try to do some this weekend, and also some sound comparison between them. I also want to explore the secondary envelope generator.
All the time there is very loud click? Is it pissible to make fast bass without click?
@@zorancalic65 i like noise (check my other videos), you can control the filter carefully and have a cleaner sound.
@@clonnok, but is it possible to obtain sound without click when cutoff is low and attack zero?
@@zorancalic65 Do you hear clicks all through the session?
@@clonnno, but... As i sad, i would like to hear bass with low cutof, and atack zero
Not too keen on the sound of this.. will have to listen to more demos..
@@decimal1815 sure, I had the same reaction. This is just out of the box and didn't RTFM, so it's like any user tweaking knobs for the first contact. I'm playing a bit deeper today and I'm starting to like it.
It's downfall is the lack of more attenuators , unless you add external ones , it was my main gripe on neutron but now the balance is worse on proton , were do you level osc's instead of just one mix balance , where do you level out cv's from the patchbay, not thought out well this synth
5:36 reminds me Kraftwerk 😀
it sounds good with a wide range of sounds.
I don't think a Proton is on my short list for now, but I could see adding one to the herd somewhere down the road. It sounds a bit cleaner and warmer than the Neutron to my ear, until you deliberately push it into dirtier territory.
How do you like it compared to the Neutron?
I've to test it deeper, but at first glance it didn't surprise me much. The oscillators seem to be quieter than the Neutron until you turn on the subs, then they get really punchy. The filters too, it appeared me to be darker and the resonance not as "screamy" but it clips the signal before when you turn it up. I still have to try the soft mode carefully, and many other features. I bought it to be a toolbox for my modular setup, so I only tested it the very basic stand-alone features.
@@clonn thank you for the very insightful breakdown. Subbed.
More please...
Plastic or metal pots?
They are plastic and small, nor very sturdy. The main inconvenience is the mark, it's just a tiny dot. Almost invisible in the dark.
@@clonn That's a shame, the Neutron has metal pots.
@@ambientstereorecordings3528 They are plastic too, only the top is shiny.
@@clonn The shafts are metal, what did you think I was talking about, the knob caps?
Not impressed yet. Seems to just make noise. Might have to wait till the musicians make a few vids of pads and melodic stuff with chords.
Check my other demo, I tried to showcase different sounds in a real jam. Sorry but I'm noisy.
But you won't find any chords, It's a mono synth 😅
Yeah the chords
@@clonn I make some pretty cool triads with my 3 neutrons running together. Also cool 1 and 5 power chords. There is vids on YT of others doing the same.
Really don't understand the design philosophy of making the LFO shape knob bigger than everything else..?? If it's so important, why share it between 2 LFO modules?
@@decimal1815 it looked nice in the render I guess. Totally useless. They could have fitted two small knobs.
i don't think the wavefolding sounds as good as on the Taiga... Comment based on youtube videos...
@@miffebarbez nope. It's very mild. I'm comparing it to Neutron + Bifold, that is brutal. Still a nice creative tool though.
@@clonn Yeah, the dual filters sound nice but i was just expecting more from the wavefolding since i liked it on the Taiga :)
@@miffebarbez I want a Taiga too! 😆
To be fair, the Taiga costs twice as much and doesn't have a patchable folder, different beast. Not knocking the Taiga, it sounds phenomenal but it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison.
@@PatternRecognitionMusic No, im just comparing the wavefolding part.. i was hoping it would sound as good... I think there are shape patchpoints on the Taiga though... Edit: and normalled to the lfo it seems... I'm a bit confused by the terminology though: waveshaping/wavefolding after rewatching the interview on sonic state with the guys from pittsburg...
no keyboard boo
Need to get rid of clicks.this is putting me off getting.
Very distorted.
@@benbauer1065 thanks
lots of clicks in the sound, is that the synth? Not good
It is. It's the same with the neutron. But it depends on you handling it
Exactly. I tried to show a bit of everything, but if you check my jams you'll understand everything lol.
@@StatetrooperBillyBill Right. I'm waiting for yours.
I call them ghost 👻 notes 🎶. 😅.
I believe it has to do with how the envelopes are set. It has 4 different ones from what I saw