Phil Vischer: Why Your Vote Matters (Part 7) | TBN
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- On TBN's special, Think, Pray, Vote, Phil Vischer joins Kirk Cameron to discuss how we can navigate a world that is filled with false information. Listen as they unpack the idea that Jesus wouldn't choose one political party, and that we should first define ourselves as Christians, and not base so much of our identity in our political affiliations.
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Phil is on fire! These last four years have exposed the Church's need to reform and get back to the heart of Jesus. Phil is a prophet and a reformer, for such a time as this.
Something like that.
Prophets are chosen by god to deliver a specific message. This is the 'dictionary definition'. So unless God spoke directly to Phil, as he did to Abraham or Moses, Phil is not a prophet.
Don't get me wrong, I love listening to him and his words can certainly get someone closer to God. But prophet he's not. Actually in Christianity there can be no more prophets now that Jesus has been crucified. The message that god had for humanity is complete. There prophets before Jesus, to establish the nation of Israel and prepare the world, then god incarnated into a man known as Jesus. That's it. Only need to wait for existing prophecies to materialise. Anyone who calls themselves a prophet is either a liar or delusional (think Muhammad, or Joseph Smith)
Phil is not a prophet. He is deceived. He is under a spell from the spirit of the age
Well said Phil...I appreciate what you said and in the end not promoting one party but rather calling us to go to our knees to seek the Lord's will in how we should vote. Thank you.
Solid information. Phil does it again.
I appreciate kirk actually branching out to hear Phil's approach tho he is more evangelical. Phil is on point. ☺️
I thought they are both Evangelicals. Am I wrong?
They are both Evangelical. Although, those have nothing to do with politics or conservatism. Phil actually has a GREAT video. I think it’s called “What is an evangelical” or something like that
@@kevindiaz575 Which every Christian should watch
You’re right because Kirk normally is on the far extreme
Phil's points about looking at it in a Biblical way is great. Many of my Christian friends vote for different parties than I do, but we desire the same outcomes. We all want abortion to decrease, we all want unity and justice, but we differ on how they can be achieved. One important thing for Christians to remember is that no matter who your christian brother or sister voted for they are still your christian family. They are not evil or unchristian. Love them and treat them with respect even if you believe they are wrong.
I totally agree with this the one thing however is that conservative Christians call out any other Christian who don't vote Republican as being ungodly having lost thier "saltiness" they make it seem as if Christianity is owned strictly by the Republicans
@@roslynmarshall2384 - I politely disagree. I see many progressive Christians calling conservative evangelicals such names as Pharisees, wolves in sheep's clothing, goats amongst the sheep, etc.
That salty attitude is not exclusive t one group, but found in both. And it is heart breaking.
Both sides have fallen short. And I am a Dorothy Day quoting Progressive Christian, myself.
I vote (or not) as the Holy Spirit leads, as an Independent.
Here's a solution...give me 15% of your paycheck for the next 10 years and I'll give to the poor...I promise! LOL
@@waynefeller8824 I totally agree. Is it that hard for christianity to be nonpolitical (to a degree since I know things like abortion is a big issue for christians, which to a degree I understand)? And also I hear republicans call people who don't like Trump non-christian, like really? It's just wrong and sad.
Whoever reading this, God knows what you are facing through, he heard your cry, He is going to deliver you. Just trust in him. Amen ❤💞🌻
Like farming?
Oh my goodness! Two of my favorite people in the world!
I still hear Bob the Tomatoe no matter what.
This is such an encouraging conversation to hear between Kirk and Phil. Phil is putting inti words the journey I have been in as well in trying to vote as a biblical Christian instead of feeling that I am am required to think how one party or another tells me to. I appreciate the respect between both men and an intelligent and God honoring conversation!
He makes a fine point about non white Americans always tiptoeing around white Americans. As an African, I find being around large groups of white Americans to be the most exhausting social experience of my life. ,😅
So they're essentially snowflakes, yes?
@@ConnorMarc No. My specific issue is that White Americans are just very high energy (in a manic way, not in a healthy way). there is so much focus on action and busy-ness, and no space to breathe and process thoughts and feelings or evaluate in any reasonable way.
the culture is one of constant movement as if taking a moment to stop and think will lead to the end of the world. I can sometimes keep up, but it is exhausting in the end. Even leisure activities are treated like a competition that one must win. this kind of manic busyness does not necessarily produce bigger better results. sometimes, you are doing nothing but turning wheels, and going in circles. And most times, you are being inconsiderate doing that.
American culture, like all cultures has its weaknesses and strengths. being outside of anyone's culture is generally exhausting, but the problem comes in when Americans think theirs is the best and only and default way.
Of course there are awesome Americans who have incredible humility and consideration for those outside of their culture.
@@politereminder6284 very well said.
Good video. The voiceless include the earth and animal kingdom too! Let's not forget them, they are so marginalized in our Evangelical and Protestant teachings, please bring them into the teaching of what it is God cares about it! He set us in the garden to care for and protect it and the creatures he made, it is our first mandate and has never stopped being our first mandate! Our job (before sin entered, but it is still our job!) is to manage the earth so that the whole creation flourishes!! Thanks for listening, and it would be awesome to hear this dialog begin to be permeate our wonderful messages from Evangelicals and Protestant churches!
I love this guy he will give you facts on everything he speak on.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TOMORROW WILL BRING.So DON'T STAY ANGRY FOR TOO LONG LEARN TO FORGIVE AND LOVE WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE YOU. ENJOY THE ONES WHO LOVE YOU.❤💞🌻
Thank you for reminding me
Thank God for this video!! So eye-opening.
Love Phil!!!!
This was really interesting.
GOD gave everyone choice and love.
Abortion will only end when people are supported through love not protests and politics.
People need to stop thinking that they are doing GODS work when it comes out as shaming, blaming and righteous indignation.
The reason why women choose the option of abortion is important and relevant in reaching out to these women...they are in pain, they are desperate and need to hear and know that there is a God who hears and cares about them, not the law. Many who have chosen the option of abortion are aware that it is wrong but felt they had no other option, and legislating abortion will never stop the desperate women...illegal abortions existed long before any attention was paid to abortion publicly
@@valerietappin9286
Exactly.
The only difference between legal and illegal abortions are that legal abortion have statistics so it will always seem like its a high number. But when it was illegal many women died going to back alley centers and bath soaks and whatever else they heard or talked about through whatever grapevine.
I have no idea how you teach empathy, genuine empathy not check mark empathy.
Any body can put a smile on their face (check mark) but does it reach their heart (genuine). Real genuine empathy is a grace and miracle from God, I do not think it can be taught, their are exceptions but in general if everything is working out for you in this world I think it becomes next to impossible to get someone to even understand it, because their value system has been compromised by the ease of life.
@@bootsofescaping01 so true! It begs the question as to what persons believe concerning the word of God and it’s authority in our lives. We in the church are no different in our attitudes today than the Pharisees and the Sadducees who followed Jesus and intently watched to see if He was breaking the law. The law was the important thing to them as they did not recognize him as the Saviour sent by God. Sadly, the evangelical church has an agenda to guide the second coming of Christ and part of the agenda is to bring to public attention some sins giving the impression that God is more concerned with some sins than others...a hierarchy of sin, which is a lie! God hates SIN! Many persons are hurting and need to know that is a God who cares....the law is unable to,reach people’s hearts, it didn’t when Jesus walked the earth and it certainly will not do it now.....God is concerned about the lack of attention paid to people who are hurting and broken and choose abortion as a solution.
The agenda of the evangelical church is equal to that of the Saduccees and Pharisees to make Jesus into a national leader who would bring prominence and glory to their earthly position, but Jesus constantly reminded them of His mission...to seek and save those who are lost, those trapped in the circumstances of fallen humanity and the only thing that can alleviate their pain is belief in Jesus. The internet has several stories of the pact made by the evangelical church leaders and Donald Trump from 2015.....they provided a laundry list of actions and positions they wanted him to,take and in exchange they would deliver the votes of the flock they influenced, announcing Donald Trump as God’s annointed 😳Franklin Graham recommended that persons could “hold their nose” and vote for Trump😳.....like the children of Israel, God gave them the desire of their heart....Trump as President, and alas the exposure of the lies and falsehood in the belief system of many of the leaders in the evangelical church and the false prophets.
@@valerietappin9286
Soo sad. And to use the church and God's word to carry out such evil. It feels overwhelming everytime I think about it.
Such a beautiful topic that's how I voted I'm a Christian
Most people want affirmation, not information in their news sources. Don't fool yourself, this is true of EVERYONE!
Excellent! Way to get back to the basics Phil!
it's a good custom to get information from different sources,that is the first step.the main problem is -among Christians though- the lack or partial knowledge of what the Bible says about different issues.so we are back at the fundamental problem that permeating church life today which is the staggering ignorance of scriptural truth among us vs political or social tradition by which we really choose which "church" we become a member of...
Unfortunately we have a 2 party system and have to pick one. If you throw out the idea of voting for a party, and simply evaluate each issue through a Biblical lens, it would become clear which candidate and issue to vote for.
"....I'm not here to pick your structure, you are here to pick me...." AMEN BROTHER!!
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Shouldn't we be reading the word and asking God for discernment to try to discern truth from error?
Is he Michael from Growing pain?
Yup!
The only solution to abortion is progressive politics. My conscience will not allow me to vote for the merciless platform of the Republican party.
Exactly! ☺️
I agree. God bless, and be well!
@@jakobmogenson5150 You too, my friend.
@@sgh94644 God bless.
No, the only solution is preaching the good news of Jesus Christ, who can change a person heart and the direction they takes. Who deserve more mercy and protection than a helpless baby in the womb?
For some weird reason he’s taken it upon himself to shame Christians into supporting a party actively involved In persecuting Christians.
Helping the poor is very important. The scripture states that if you hate the poor, you don't know God. With that said, I'm against theft. I can help the poor without the government stealing from me to make sure I "help the poor".
Trump embodies ALL 7 Deadly Sins.
THAT fact should tell a Christian who NOT to vote for.
It's not that hard. 😒
The term "7 Deadly Sins" aren't even found in the Bible. And God does go over a list of sins, trust and believe it's more than 7.
And what are those sins? You are not a sinner too? Is the other person/party you're voting for sinless? Sounds like you hate Trump. Do you know his heart to make such judgement? Do you know what time is it prophetically?
Yes, it is that hard because Biden does as well.
@@purplehaze7777 Like cause division? Or increase planned parenthood funding?
@@jacobfiggins Trump didn't cause division. That was caused by media, leftists, and people who pick apart everything he does and says, because they hate what he stands for. I hope you are enjoying this national collapse under Biden. Please look up all of the outstanding things that Trump did accomplish during his 4 years in office.
Yes, but God never does anything without showing it to his prophets first. What is God saying prophetically to America NOW.
@@purplehaze7777 what in your opinion threatens the believer and the freedom of worship today?
STOP WORSHIPPING TRUMP.
Agree.
I think it's self righteous to assume that other Christians are allowing weird political rhetoric to guide them instead of the bible, simply because they vote differently than you assume they should. Interesting
It’s funny Phil tries to sound neutral in this interview, but he votes Democrat and argues for Democrat policy on issues like abortion. Kirk let him off easy.
how do you know he always votes democrat? He doesn't like Trump, so maybe just that. Phil is not a liberal christian.
They both have one foot on the lower circular bar of the table & the other has no idea...lol..its like a magnet
I was like why Phil's foot on the people furniture?! Then Kirk's foot found it's way there 😄. I thought he he was following him then I realised Phil's foot is not in Kirk eyesight. Darn thing is a magnet!!!
If the Bible calls us to focus on the widow, orphan, and the least in society, why then are you so focused on race/ethnicity? Are you saying that only minorities have widows, orphans, and are the least in society? That seems racist to me.
I’m in awe at how he is strategically wording his voice, amazingly all the “good” actions in loving our neighbor were liberal? Really?! How much more biased can this be?! While speaking strategically, we can see right through this. Very disappointing to be accused as doing anything less if you don’t vote Phil’s party.
Phil doesn’t have a party. You just don’t want to hear anything good associated with the word liberal. God’s will is neither conservative nor liberal. Those are both evil human inventions. There are things God wills that liberals would hate. There are things God wills that conservatives would hate. We are not supposed to serve and defend political ideologies. We are to serve God alone. That’s what Phil is saying.