MSFS 2024 - No Mods Required? | FSExpo 2024 News & Announcements
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2024
- Asobo & the team took to the stage to announce lots of great new insights into MSFS 2024. There are new partners and of course, lots of improvements coming on the 19th November and it seems like many of the mods and addons we use may no longer be needed. We'll always need scenery and add-on airports, but there are lots of features now which we purchase mods for in MSFS 2020 that simply wont be needed in MSFS 2024.
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Multi CPU core support leading to smoother/faster graphics is what I'm hoping for.
Well that's definately been a focus. We know the simulation aspect will make use of better threading. Also DirectX 12 will be default and should perform better in 2024 than 2020.
The people who enjoyed Reno air races in MSFS 2020....all 7 of them.
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Not great was it
I think redbull style racing is way more engaging, looking forward to it in fs24
😂😂😂😂😂
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As I am one of the numerous home cockpit builders, I would like to have group of views and a zoom per window in MSFS2024 - it was in FSX but not in MSFS2020. In MSFS2020, it was just too difficult to get perfect views for the sceneries !!! I hope that somebody will hear our request ! Thanks again to the channel for such great call ! ;)
Its no wonder they needed multi-core CPU support for 2024! Some crazy good sounding improvements.
Do they actually improve that? I mean, 2020 basically doesn't run on anything less than 5 cores. It can't even play the menu music without issues if you only have 4 (no HT).
I love the fact that they're bringing so many good add-on deveopers onboard and utilizing their content to make the sim better!
I hope some of the non-bespoke/hand crafted airports get some attetion in the new sim - particularly small and mid sized commercial airports. So many of those have mising/inoperative or badly placed jetways, and no or poor ramp markings.
Would also like to see more precise control over custom weather parameters like visibilty - and see the time not keep moving forward when the sim is paused!
Last year I was disappointed with the idea of FS2024, for a whole host of reasons. However; with the dawn of graphical uplifts, physics, seasons, default passenger traffic, sea traffic and so on I’m more than excited!!
Really? Its going more and more in the direction of Arcade Gaming. Next we will have cows saying "muuuuuh"..
@@johnjacobsen4003for me the flight model was the last missing piece for a simulator. Okay there are other things too like silly menu sounds or dune mod etc, but if you ignore that you'll have a pretty good simulator
I'm so happy for the freeware devs who have been recognized and their work will be included in the new SIM. Well done!!
2020 was just a warm-up and a big job application for everything they are going to make for 2024.... I'm actually excited
Great vid Gavin, thanks. Any news about improved ATC? Or BeyondATC integration? I know BATC is far from perfect "please say callsign" 🙄, but still miles better than default.
Sayintentions would be an even better option as it is ai powered
I would like to see " wing in cloud" effect implemented while in passenger view.
Or a HALO effect when you have the sun in your back and flying straight trough or into a cloud! In real this is crazy
The best news from the Expo is the impressive progress on the FBW A380. I didn't expect that.
no way. fs2024 stole the show without a doubt
but the a380. is a extremely positive plane as well
Funny post, we're all looking forward to FBW A380, but how did you miss MSFS2024.🙄
Along with puffinflight and GAIST Ultra global shipping traffic, when they were mentioning other VFR stuff I was really surprised they didn't include Mamu and all the amazing work done by them: solar farms, power lines, and marinas especially; I feel all of those are must haves!
Powerlines etc are now "Payware" (unfortunately)
Really in-depth, fascinating video - subscribed. Had no clue 2024 would be so immersive from the get-go. Let's just hope the hype holds
Knowing what I know about MSFS 2024 I can't wait to give it a spin! I'm still amazed on a regular basis at how awesome MSFS 2020 is, so MSFS 2024 should be a dream come true for me. I love that they are finally replacing satellite imagery with AI inserted 3d textures to represent those surfaces.
I hope they can make the roads a little better too, as well as the cars, which seem to be a remnant of FSX as it is right now. Maybe we'll even see a train here and there! (Xplkane has had trains for aeons, it seems, so I don't why MSFS couldn't have them, other than them looking silly on uneven terrain.
Anyway those are details perhaps. I hope they can fulfill the promise of excellent flight dynamics. And given the amount of attention they've been giving on cars in the screenshots. maybe you can even drive a car now! How cool would it be to have the entire world to drive your car in on accurate representations of roads? Shouldn't be too hard to implement :)
Yeah the 3D out of 2D is tech which was used in 2020 but has improved a lot in 2024. Jorg doesn't put it this way but basically the autogen, procedural vegitation/grass and trees etc was created using AI from satellite imagery. In 2024 this has gone to a whole new level with more variety in vegitation and rocks and other assets being represented as well as detailed maps and tesselation also being used meaning the satellite ground based scenery will no longer be flat which will revolutionise Bush flying. On top of this there will be more TIN areas as well used for national parks and of course many cities.
I'm currently mostly a GA/VFR flyer, a bit of IFR, sometimes dabble with twins and turbos. I'm hoping that better ground visuals and visual waypoints e.g. cooling towers will enhance the experience. But the main thing would be getting the ATC right for each country. I originally thought 2024 would be all about missions and airlines, but this has got me thinking differently.
I hope we get detailed interiors for airliners
I wish we got a similar experience to train simulator where we can be the passenger and have detailed interiors and also have an option to have an actual ai pilot fly and not auto pilot
Imagine we got detailed airports interiors for free simulating real life air ports
Same I want detailed airline interiors with npc instead of having to use a camera to look outside the window
And decent cabin announcements! Don't forget them!
It's a bit difficult to board a plane without an interior! You did watch the 2024 trailer/FSexpo presentation right?
Still hoping for news on shared cockpit implementation, also would like to see dynamic foveated rendering for us VR folks as well.
Shared cockpit is my number one. I'd love to fly the same airliner with a friend on VATSIM, sharing tasks like real pilots.
Shared cockpit news we know already. If you've seen the development update wishlist, it's stated as 2024+ meaning it's not going to come out for launch of 2024 or anytime soon. You are not going to get any news on this, this side of the 2024 launch and I doubt you'll get anything until well into next year. As for foveated rendering. I'm heavily into VR but even I'm concious that there are more important fish to try. Forget it and when it eventually arrives, it will be a nice bonus.
If my 2020 planes don’t work on this, I’ll wait!
How many times can they say that 2020 planes will be compatable with 2024?
I think what people are concerned with is exactly how compatible the planes will be. All will be 100% compatible? Most will be 90%? Some will not work at all? No one knows for sure.
@@DestructZero6471 No, I think Asobo are going with the intention that they will be 100% compatible unless the developer has included some sort of custom implementation which is no longer supported which I doubt would happen. The way new 2024 features will be supported in the sim will mean they will need to be enabled by the developer, so out of the box the plane should behave like it did in 2020.
@@PoochAndBoo you do realize that’s what they all say, doesn’t mean it will work!
Multi jetway support please, with the big airliners we could really need more than just 1 jetway
Wow, that's so f'king low on the pecking order, I would say being able to pick daisys in the meadows is probably a higher priority! 😁
the video is wonderful like always, good job and thank you for letting us know what they are up to.
The new flight planning tool will be very interesting how their implementation will be. For those of us using Navigraph the new system will be compared in terms of quality and reliability; big shoes to fill. But not paying annually fot Navigraph will make some people happy.
And I wonder how many airplane developers already using Navigraph will say “Now we have to implement MS system. Is it worth it?”
The answer is in the new Marketplace implementation. Any plane coming from 2020 must be compatible with the new SDK and I presume (with a grain of salt plz) that MS will require that all planes would have to work with the new tools including the new flight planning system.
yeah this. I hate subscription services so $10/month is annoying as hell. Will be interesting to see how it comes together.
I feel like Realturb cat areas is so underrated and needs more people to know about its existence. It's such a great turbulence simulator and it would be so great if asobo brought the dev onboard.
Reason for outside weather is for weather by date instead of only "real time" live or a preset. I have not seen this mentioned as being in MSFS2024. This will be a deciding factor for if ActiveSky will be needed.
So true. Historical weather is a big bonus when planning round the world trips.
Oh yes it would be great. In FSX, when you saved a flight, live weather was saved along. That lets me saved a weather at a specific date and location to replay it another day. Like when a crash happened in real life because of the weather that lets me try and experiment this specific situation.
I am hoping MSFS 2024 has realistic weather modeling that can be detected by the in-game aircraft’s weather radar. Deviating around thunderstorms while at cruising altitude that you can see out of the window, on the radar and that any sim ATC can all see the same details.
I can't wait to give it a spin! Greetings from the Philippines!
FSRealistic or something similar needs to be a thing!
This
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But it is a thing. I'm sure they'll produce a version for MSFS 2024.
@@dtrjones I think he means into the sim, without extra buying.
ATC to answer your question of what I would like to see that's default. A good one.
How would an air traffic controller know about what's default in MSFS 2024, that sentence is complete nonsense. 😃
Thoughtful video as always Gavin, thank you. Will my trusty ole 3080Ti video card be able to handle all this extra loading of 2024 version or will it be a slow slide show?
I never really thought that 2020 needed mods. I've been flying vanilla 2020, except for payware airplanes and I think it's fine. Well, I did recently add that mod that updates bing earth. Highly recommend that if you don't have it. Still, looking forward to 2024. Fun time to be into flight sims.
I've added about a dozen airports, a few city updates, and a similar amount of planes but I refuse to buy these environment upgrades, weather updates, boats, night lighting etc. Looking forward to these things making MSFS 2024 richer though. 😄
Mods aren't a 'requirement', it's just a way of extending the sim, and that will never be unneeded.
So you fly IFR with default ridiculous ATC and Flight Planner or are you an arcade VFR guy instead ?
@@markfosseth8047 you missed the point.
@@GregAbott-sl2bo they missed the ATC and Flight Planner once again in favor of arcade components 🤮
@@markfosseth8047 I said that mods and addons will never be unneeded - meaning that they will be needed !!! Learn to read.
@@joshfredr7846 too late
Great summary on what we can expect. Any word on ATC?
Great video Gavin. No word on weather radar?
Someone asked Jörg Neumann about it after the presentation and he just said that the devs will talk to meteoblue about it
As they said other times they have no technical issues to implement it, it's just contractual stuff with Meteoblue that needs to be sorted out
It will be the only flying 737 Max if Boeing keeps having issues
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Dont forget the new flight planer asobo is making to that almost looks like navigraph
Cool to make flight plans. But until they give us the charts it’s worthless.
Its nothing special Navigraph is updated per air rac cycle and even GSX I still doubt it will be completely obselete.
@@whiffy506 It literally has charts?
@@whiffy506 it has charts
No not Navigraph, its Simbrief. Navigraph is Nav Data
Looks amazing 🎉🎉🎉🎉 can’t wait
I look forward to career mode, licensing/checkout climbing the career ladder. As well as maps and airport information such as apprpoach plates in an unbroken VR experience.
The fact that 2024 will at long last bring us realistic coniferous trees is worth the extra expense alone.
One thing that wasn't really discussed in the Las Vegas presentations was military flying. When you look at the number of high quality 3rd party military aircraft (and to a lesser extent airfields) that have come out in recent times I would have thought some time would have be spent on this area or at least some acknowledgement of the growing number of military aircraft sales through the Marketplace and from 3rd Party outlets. We all know about the "no weapons" policy in 2020 but that hasn't seemingly put off developers from producing superb quality products. Great news that the A400M and the A-10C will ship by default in 2024 and I assume there may be some Missions built around these but no real detail was given, Similarly no mention was made of any default military bases being included in 2024. A super detailed RAF Brize Norton or Nellis AFB would be relevant and amazing.
I believe IndiaFoxtEcho mentioned on their socials that there are no known upgrades done to the new sim for military planes.
I'm really excited for the release of MSFS'24 and loving the improvements I've seen so far.
I am curious to know what the autogen buildings will be like though. Will they be more detailed and realistic, and have more variety, will we see hospitals, schools, shops, factories, etc?
Also confirmed: There will be a "walk-mode" in MSFS2024. So, we will be able to board our plane, do walkarounds, even walk through airports, etc.
Yeah, there's a lot of miss-information about how much people movement there will be inside terminals, I think Jorg essentially said they'll leave that to third party,. but yes the airport generally will look a lot busier with a ton more life around planes.
how about any info if PMDG777 gonna be usable on FS2024?
You guys intend to by as soon as it's realsed or wait FS2024?
howd you get those graphics and picture outside the 777 which looks great
This certainly has my interest, more than ever before.
I would like to know if the "heaviness" of the package has come down the basic sim takes *~150GB!* I like to see standard support for force feedback yokes, sticks. I would like to see proper simulation of Solar Eclipses, and comets. And is BATC/SI safe for now? Is Asobo going to integrate *proper* ATC?
Would be good if SLC could be included. Will be interesting to see if we can get rid of bug ridden GSX and get something that just works. The flight planner could be interesting, wonder how much it will replicate Navigraph.
the idea of working my way up from PPL all the way to ATPL and widebody captain is just awesome. There's nothing I love more than immersion and a 'reason to fly' so this would be perfect. Is there a full list of a/c coming with FS2024?
I'm looking forward to the much better 3D representation on the ground and that e.g. Even grain grows in the fields.Which at first glance seems unnecessary for a flight simulator, but is interesting for simulating gliding, because in the event of an external landing you have to pay attention to which field you are landing
I think gliding is going to be sick in msfs2024. Especially with the better flight dynamics and the reworked ground representation
What about traffic and liveries. Do you think they will get enough licenses for majority of airlines and also solve the issues of airport traffic interactions with aircrafts during taxi
Love the music in this one. Where can I find it?
I really hope that the ground handling will be more realistic along with other flight models. If there is a more realistic change on all the aircrafts, then I'll purchase. Right now, for me, it's just wait & see...
Wow, the avionics news is music to my ears! Now let’s hope that this new flight model api or whatever it is fixes Carenado’s C170 and C182RG, which each fly like a 2x4 tossed out the back of a moving truck on a bouncy dirt road.
There will be only 2 items left for me - better default airports including ground texture improvement (non-bespoke), and a proper LIVE flyby camera with replay that doesn't ask me to press 'record'.
Both things XP does very, very well.
I'm definitely gonna wait to see if they plan on using free flight as I'm not really into the mission things so for me only time will tell
I really hope they will give the VR experience a jump up cause it’s abit much bugs and blurriness! Really
Looking forward to flying all different kind of missions etc 😎
Nice to see some maps and flight planner insim without a Navigraph sub. MS didnt announce GSX as a partner so thats all good.
Great video thank you. For me however, the more I purchase works out to be the more I spend.
So far I think all of the new features are great, but I'm still super curious about the technicals of the base sim itself.. the new engine. Hopefully we'll get more info before release.
I think msfs 2024 is like a more finished product of the current sim. (I think finished is a wrong word for this) but like the current sim was microsoft's first release of flight sim in a while and they already made it great. Then community brought addons and improvements and microsoft has been taking notes what community likes and what a perfect flight sim needs. In the 2024 version they basically just add all the things community really wants and needs and they are probably making the best flight sim by quite a fair margin.
perhaps "polished" might be a better word...
@@tonyhorn2954 haha thank you, english is not my mother tongue so it didnt pop up in my head
@@tompsu9536 It's more than just a polished version with integrated addons tough. They also changed the core of the sim. It should be even more realistic and more hardware efficient. That's what they say at least.
@@laurentsamson8927 ik and wasnt intended as critique. Personally Im really looking forward to it
Is there going to be shared cockpits?
have they announced the price and different versions yet?
I'm curious to know what price points for the premium, Standard. Regarding the premium wouldn't be surprised if it's not far off $200 US.
Please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD let us save a flight in mid air and reload it without junking the flight plan and aircraft configuration!
you can spawn mid flight but i admit trying to configure the ac in mid flight is a pain!
Better ground texture will be amazing for VFR flying, for me that's the msfs 2024 highlight.
But for msfs 2024 will the 737 max 8200 varient be avalible?
I really wonder if the in built replay function will be available on xbox
I’d really love it if a flight sim didn’t need lots of add-ons. It’s not even the cost that bothers me, it’s knowing what to get, then trying to get it all to work. Just something good, straight of the box, is what I want, not endless faffing about. If there was a deluxe option that cost more but just included all the right add-ons I’d take it.
The things I can't wait for are them finally adding FFB support after all those years (listed as "planned for FS2024+" on the roadmap since just recently) and that MOZA AB9 stick base.
Also they mention every aircraft that has been featured so far in trailers are all on the base sim.
Yes and as far as we know, they've not said they are removing any 2020 aircraft as well. Although, how they plane to deal with the different MSFS 2020 packages I don't know. I'm guessing that you'll get all the planes regardless in 2024 so that's probably a single price?
Meanwhile at Xplane: Shirley and some bug fixes.
MSFS 2024:
New 3D ground rendering
Biomes
Seasons
New lighting model
Improved clouds, plus new cloud types
Improved water simulation
Missions
Ships/correct/accurate boat interactions with water surface
Improved flight dynamics and physics
Integrated sophisticated flight planner
And so much more .. Be sure to watch the presentation.
Wake turbulence is the biggest feature for me. Then comes weather. If they will confirm wind shears will be simulated then j will switch for sure from the beginning. If they don't, I will stay with msfs2020. Especially if asobo now brings lot of stuff into default msfs2024, then there might be some companies which stay with msfs2020 and develop it further even after the 8 years.
However did they say something about streaming? If I remember correctly they planned on using cloud based data more so you don't need so much space on your hard drive.
The FBW dev team should be included in the upcoming MSFS 2024.
FBW is impressive but that is not a good idea because that is aimed at a more "hardcore" crowd. Remember they must aim the entire game to everyone, accessible to everyone. The majority are not interested in poking at MCDU , SID, STAR, cost index and wondering about Alternate Law. So the base game proves the foundation and then you are free to use mods like FBW :)
Will the default aircrafts from fs2020 be migraded to fs2024? I'm thinking in particular the Longitude and the CJ4. Those are great default aircraft overhauled by Working Title
Will the external mods like the pmdg 737 work in fs 2024 and how will that work
Are we still going to need a thrid party ATC addon?
How much heavier on hardware will it be did they say? A better support for multiple monitors would also be highly appreciated...
2 addons I use all the time are FS Realistic and FBW traffic.
No map addons?
Will londen still be a melted mesh?
Will it have A320Neo and A380?
A few things that must be in the new sim. Along with improved ATC, the correct phraseology. In the US the correct verbiage is “point” not decimal when ATC transfers you to a different radio frequency. Hopefully this will get corrected in the new sim. There was a really nice add on from the FSX days( EditVoicepack) that allowed words to be spoken to call airports by their proper names as opposed to ICAO codes. It takes away from the realism. Speaking of realism, I use the windsock colors add on which is perfect for each region and it would be really nice for FS2024 to depict the proper windsock directions. Finally, let’s hope they do cloud shadows the proper way in FS2024.
I got my private pilot license flying in the very busy Bay Area airspace and heard plenty of pilots say "decimal". Yes mostly foreign pilots, but no one ever "corrected" them because there is nothing to correct. It's aviation phraseology.
The question I have yet to see answered is, will photogrammetry cities still look like they were melted when you fly at helicopter level? Will bridges be properly implemented with cars no longer driving under them.
Has Asobo said anything about the weather radar for MSFS 2024?
How about the WX or Weather Radar (3D)?
Will FS2024 have flyby view (one-click - not drone), which FS2020 still doesn't have?
Will Australia be fully represented. ie Country airfields in each state plus realistic scenery
A must have for me is the Fenix A320.
So many upgrades. Love it!
Yet still, the ATC dumb as a doorknob.
And where's the Dynon SkyView? If there's to be better VFR, it's hard to get around the SkyView.
I need toolbar pushback by default!!
I think there will still be mods as they made it clear that monetisation is importante to them when they talked about marketplace
exactly. they are extremely 3rd party oriented, so to dev a platform where ll mods are built in us not feasible
hey Gav, will the a330 for msfs24 be compatible with the 2020?
What I heard MS say was that the base aircraft along with 3rd party aircraft that have been certified by the developer, will be compatible in both directions, or sims. So if true, it would seem as though it will be compatible.
Any word on "Home Cockpit"
I would like correct runway alignments, ils freqs., magnetic deviations, thresholds and correct ground geometry at airports and therefore functional and correct approaches. But that's too much to ask from a simulator.
I hope the Fenix A320 can come across to 2024 sim i like that aircraft which i fly all the time
Fenix said it will work in 2024
@@tictac4949 Thankyou thats great news to me ears
I would love to import simbrief plans directly into the ingame flight planner, lil suprised it didnt happen in fs20... OH an for the love of god, i hope they add a shopping cart to marketplace instead of having to buy things one by one, especially at sale time!!
Hey Gav. With no release date for FBW A380, I would have rather enjoyed a default A380 then a 737max.
I would have also loved to see a better ATC which could use some bit of AI as such addons cost a lot more and without it one doesn't get the necessary immersion
With most of the features being given as default, seems the cost of the mafs2024 will be must steep
I woyld line to see an optimized-bug free-well crafted pusback option. That would be great.
Will the 3rd party airports and aircraft that I have bought for MFS 2020 work with MFS 2024 ?
Microsoft made an expo about this, it was marketplace something. It’s on there RUclips page, but from my understanding it’s transferred but must be done by the dev and accepted by the market team. and the dev can make an upgraded version more built for 2024 for a fee. I suggest watching that segment because I am probably missing a few details. But yes* most should work.
Im hoping for better road traffic, headlighes as night red and white depending on traffic direction.
then we can have a stutter fest. road traffic is a cpu killer
@@pieterduplessis6906x-plane have this , also you can see police, ambulance or what ever this is.blue and red light.looks cool from above.
Completely agree, I'd like to see better realistic road trafic as well. The cars should fit to the area your at and the density should fit to real world ex trafic jams or rows in front red lights. They should fix the road lightning as well, like there are mostly no light poles on motorways in Europe.
@@pieterduplessis6906 Xplane can do it. You can turn it up or down. Theres road traffic in it already just needs improving.
Again rocks and trees, and no words about the weather or weather radar. Meteoblu is not the only weather provider.
In the video you said that you wanted to surprise us with something? Please surprise us with weather radar
I am waiting for weather radar 😁
First of all lets see that all you learned would be true after released, then will see if they keep their promise that they announced , I would only would purchase it because of the 737 max