Milwaukee M18 Gen 2 FUEL 7-1/4" Circular Saw Review
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
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Milwaukee's new 2732-21HD Gen 2 FUEL 7-1/4" blade right circular saw lives up to the claim of "faster than corded," although it does so at the expense of weight. The saw and 12Ah battery weigh in at 12 pounds together.
The 15A corded saw I tested against is the Ridgid 32021.
Thanks to Milwaukee for providing a review sample. 
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Good review brother. My only problem with this saw is that it gets kinda heavy at the end of the day. Don’t overlook the abilities of the 6 1/2” fuel with the 9.0 battery.
I meant to mention the weight, but completely forgot to while I was shooting the video - thanks for reminding me! It's pretty hefty at 12 pounds with battery, and I could feel it after using it for a few hours.
Donny Sanner
I grab my little cordless first, much better control. My Mag 77 is heavy at 12.5 lbs and need to watchout for that that initial kick.
Donny Sanner, ur right, my 6 1/2 does great, it struggles with rips but if u let the tool do the work, it will cut right thru it! Ima try the 9 today!
Excellent review. I appreciate how you highlighted the new features especially as I was trying to find out what was new over the 2731. I just bought a 9.0 starter kit that came with the 2731. Now that I know the difference I can return it before opening it because I want the 2732. Thanks!
Glad I could help!
I love these Made in China tools. Great name.
I'm a professional framer. I have both Gen 1 right and left blade saws. The 6 1/2 has good power with a 9.0 amp battery. The 7 1/4 gen 1 however bogs down often. The motors in both saws are identical and it seems to have trouble turning the bigger 7 1/4 blade. There is a noticeable power drop from the 6 1/2.
The gen 2 7 1/2 is a totally different animal. It has huge power. It feels like you are cutting with a corded saw. The motor is twice as big as the gen 1 saw and you can really feel the difference. I'm loving it so far. It's heavier than the gen 1 but not so much that it really matters. Battery life seems to be good. All in all it's a great saw. We run these saws all day every day building houses. We rarely use corded saws anymore. We also run Makitas and DeWalts. You cant go wrong with any of them. Just pick the saw you like the best and go with it. They all get the job done in a professional environment. The all are probably more than a homeowner really needs, but if you can afford it you may as well get pro grade tools.
Thanks for sharing your pro perspective. I agree, you really can't go wrong with Makita, Milwaukee, and DeWalt. I think it's really interesting how they each have their own solution to high power draw cordless tools - X2, High Output, and FlexVolt.
PLEASE CLARIFY IF BOTH ARE DEFICIENT, GEN 1. READS 7-1/4 BOGS DOWN COMPARED TO 6-1/2. THEN SAYS POWER DROPS ON 6-1/2. SO ARE YOU SAYING BOTH ARE DEFICIENT? ONE BOGS AND ONE LACKS POWER?
ARE YOU GENERATION 1 SAWS 'BOTH' 'FUEL" VERSIONS OR BRUSHED MODELS OR MIXED?
GEN 2, BRUSHLESS?
DO YOU RUN THE (2) BATTERY MAKITA SAWS? THEY WORK REALLY GOOD, IF YOU HAVE NOT TRIED ON YET. ESPECIALLY THE ONE THAT IS DESIGNED LIKE A WORM OR A HYPOID REAR HANDLE MODEL.
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I feel like Milwaukee should come out with a combo where they sell you the tool plus battery without a charger you don't need a charger for every tool you buy as a combo
why 4 chargers? may want to consider purchasing tool only. and battery only. why spend the extra cash on kits?
these tools, no matter the brand, are about HALF THE PRICE ON EBAY, compared to Home Depots Selling Price!! Dont know how they do it, but any tool big, big savings from firms on ebay. New Tools.
@@dinagiolo3091 it usually is cheaper buying as a kit instead of seperate and if need be you can sell some of the chargers for a couple bucks or have a few back ups.
@@dinagiolo3091 probably because they're stolen
I just thought the same thing today...offer the battery nix the charger
pay attention to their authorized dealers like home depot, cpo, acme tools, international tools, ohio tools, etc. they have deals all the time on bare tools and kits. sometimes it's a free battery, 2 2ah m12, 1 6ah m12, and similar with m18 batteries. you can also find deals where you get 10 or 20% bare tool, even free tools instead if you have batteries. obviously this is geared around people that can wait and watch for a good deal to pop up, if you need a tool right at the moment you don't always have that luxury. amazon is not an authorized retailer, so possibly more difficulty in getting extended warranty issues dealt with, but will occasionally have a few deals as well. there are certain youtubers like @TOOL BOSS that post deals on power tools, he's one of the fastest updaters that i've seen.
I just bought a left bladed, rear handled X2 Makita because I am already heavily invested in the Makita platform. The saw, two 5 Ah batteries, and a dual charger for $300, I just couldn't resist. The Milwaukee looks nice, though, and since I was getting a kit, I considered it as well.
Nice review, real cuts, especially as regards batteries. Thanks
Nice video. Going to the basement right now to see if my M12 circular saw blade and shoe are parallel.
I have the M12 FUEL saw as well, and the blade and shoe are parallel on mine. I think something just got screwed up during assembly for this particular saw.
Great review as usual. I can't wait to get one it seems like it has lots of power
Tons of power - I was really surprised at how fast I could push it through rips.
I've owned both 2732-20 (this saw) and 2631-20 (cheaper twin+my choice). 26 feels 90% as powerful as 27 and waay lighter. Even though fuel motor "looks" much bigger. 26's alum. shoe doesn't chip like 27's magnesium. Check blade to shoe alignment on anysaw. 2732's are still having aligment issue's. Seen (3) 26's and no alignment issues on them.
I have the 2632-20. Runs and cuts great with a 5.0 battery. Ima throw a 9.0 and see how much better it does
the one your using is a left handed saw. I chose this one because being a lefty, its so easy to see the 0 line and make quick straight cuts. I can see everything without bending over or bending my neck in a weird way. Anyway, love this saw! Great video!
It’s not a left handed saw , the blade right orientation is standard in European countries . It also allows the shoe plate to ride mostly on the workpiece , not the cutoff - leading to a better cut.
Hi,
I just got a chance to watch this video. I know it's a older video but i was looking into this right blade milwaukee circular saw. Looks good and now with their new 8.0ah high output battery with the 21700 cells it should run strong and lighter then having a 12ah or a 9.0ah battery.
great review!
milwaukee needs a cordless worm drive circular saw asap!!!
Exactly
Exactly
Worth watching the video. Never would have thought to check blade alignment
Very great video. That is one the best videos I've seen so far at feast people know it can cut out but still performed better than corded. Am still waiting for the wormdrive. It think the battery design is an issue which they might look into just my opinion.
Looks like a beast!
Very good review !!!!
Thanks!
Thanks. Subbed. Very helpful. Have a great day! 😀
Keep checking that parallel with the blade/base!!!
It's important for people to understand the limitations and real world situations. If you do a rip cut on a thick board, and you are not using a straight edge guide, then there is no way to do a proper cut. You have to use a straight edge guide for long, precision rip cuts. This is why a table saw is always used for long rip cuts. You don't generally rip a long straight board with a hand held circular saw, unless you don't have any access to a table saw. They make wonderful straight edge guides now that clamp at each end, leaving a low profile straight edge. Or you can use another straight board as a guide (plywood sheet or particle board sheeting). Putting on the optional stamped steel "straight edge guide" onto the saw's shoe, should allow a very straight rip cut too. Using a right blade saw, you don't get sawdust blowing back into your face, it goes neatly away from your body.
Looks beastly bro good review
Great review! Can you do a review for the Milwaukee FUEL String Trimmer please? Thanks
Thanks! I don't have plans to review the string trimmer though, sorry.
You wont be disappointed with the string trimmer. I have heard it doesnt do well with the 12.0 battery based on a HD Milwaukee 12.0 review. The trimmer with a 9.0 it's a beast.
JohnIoannou I've had the string trimmer for over 6 months now and I can't complain. I never dreamed I'd ever own a battery powered trimmer but I'm glad I bought it. I used it at work today cuz when we do any St. Louis county job, one thing they now require is all vegetation to be cleared off the sidewalks. I used it all day (8 hrs) basically edging nonstop, and I went through 3-ish 9.0 batteries. And it never lacked in the power department.
These are great saws, have 3 of them and rarely take the corded saws out of the trailer.dont care for the bigger battery, maybe because I've used the 9 amp hour mostly but 9.0 last all day with me.
I've found the 6Ah and 8Ah seem to be the sweet spot for battery size/performance with most handheld tools this size.
Review 2631-20. No one else has. On promo right now so a lot of people needing some info on it.
Talking to my battery guy he said you should not use 9,5 or 4 amp batteries because the motor is hungry for power and destroy those batteries much quicker because they will overheat only use the 12amp and 6amp with 21700 batteries he said you can use them in a pinch but don't use them as the main battery, I noticed that with my friends Milwaukee chainsaw he had the 9amp battery and when we were clearing some down tree's the saw would cut off once the batteries got hot even though there was 2 bars left on we had to wait till it cooled off but with the 60v flexvolt saw with a 9amp battery we could keep cutting till it died
This saw does heat up the 5Ah and 9Ah batteries a lot more under heavy load, as I found in my battery test video: ruclips.net/video/kKmW_M6FNtw/видео.html. You'd probably be ok with cross cuts and the occasional rip, but really pushing it with those batteries using 18650 cells will be hard on them and potentially reduce their life. Luckily the thermal overload protection will stop then from getting significantly damaged in one session, but there will be long term detrimental impacts the more times a battery is pushed to thermal overload.
Great review. Is the dust port compatible with the new backpack vacuum?
Yes, the rubber end of the hose fits over the saw's dust chute. It's a tight fit but it works.
Where can I get that saw dust shute ??
I never imagined the smaller battery would affect performance, only run time. I really like the dust chute- first one I've seen on a circular saw. Subbed, even though you added a tree to ambidextrous and said thee instead of thuh, both of which cause me physical pain. But a little pain never hurt anyone...
The new High Output 12Ah batteries have larger 21700 cells that can output more current than the smaller batteries using 18650 cells, plus there's another row of cells in parallel to provide even more current output. That's why there's such a big power difference between the 12Ah and 5Ah.
Something does not sound right. Power is the product of current times voltage and that is not debatable. So those two different batteries should have the same power, the difference is in the run time. So you think?
What is going on? Discharge rate on the 21700 is higher, which means more current and that translates to more power assuming voltage remains the same. Does that mean shorter run time than a 18650 with the same Ah rating? Further, does higher discharge rate mean less recharge cycles translating to a shorter life? Or do we have a free lunch? Without knowing what type of batteries used, there is no way to tell the performance just by the Ah ratings. Batteries and chemistry is not my thing, so jump in correct me.
Dewalt Flexvolt sidewinder has way more power and EXCELLENT sightline down left and right side of blade which is very important for accurate cuts.
Hey do you feel a slight rattle/screaming sound when you pull the trigger?
I want to make sure before I return mine.
It sounds like a normal circular saw to me.
What rip guide are you using in the tests and/or what do you recommend? I bought this saw TODAY and realized after opening it didn't come with a basic rip guide. I'm the sort of buy once, cry once guy in terms of price
It's the Kreg Rip Cut: amzn.to/3FddLEW
I reviewed it here: ruclips.net/video/XHMp-8pqW0w/видео.html
I do t understand why Milwaukee makes the 7 1/4 with a RIGHT BLADE ONLY. Im a big left blade guy, right blade doesnt work for me anyone know why this saw does not come in LEFT BLADE? i know the expensive worm drive saw does .... But not this one ! Whyyyyyy???? HELP ME.UNDERSTAND
Do you remember if the trigger was really stiff? I have one and this might sound like a small issue but the return on the trigger is stiff and requires a good amount of pressure to keep it depressed. Might be annoying after a long day?
I didn't notice a difference from all other circular saws I've used.
@@DoresoomReviews I'll have to go check out another one at the store. The DeWALT Flexvolt Advantage circ saw trigger requires no more effort than the triggers on any drill or impact.
Can someone please tell me where I get the dust bag adaptor from?? I’m having a nightmare in trying to find one!!
It comes with the saw. Should be part number 49-90-3001, you can order it direct from Milwaukee by calling 1-800-SAWDUST.
Mine came with it when I bought tool only
I would love to seen the 3.0ah high output battery tested. Those 1.5ah are ancient....not even sure they sell them anymore? I think the 2.0ah is the smallest??
I tested the 3Ah here: ruclips.net/video/Tgodx4h5gIs/видео.html
Bottom line is the Milwaukee was the first with a rafter hook. It works better than a corded saw, is lighter & quieter. It costs 3X as much as a corded saw, but everyone reaches for this saw first.
I own 3 for my crew. Never regretted it. I don’t know if the Dewalt is better. Don’t care. This saw & this platform rocks! Waiting for the framing nailer & the router for a totally cordless & hoseless jobsite.
I thought the bigger batteries only lasted longer? Do they actually provide more power?
Yes, they definitely provide more power. I proved it in this battery test video: ruclips.net/video/kKmW_M6FNtw/видео.html
I want them to make this saw in both a left and right version and sell a 'superkit' that includes both left and right saws with one battery and charger.
Why would you need both left and right
@@patrickmiller1674 When cutting off a roof overhang for instance. You're generally only comfortable cutting up or down the roof. If you have the blade on either side, you have more options. Sometimes you'll need to cut into a corner close to a wall. If you don't have a saw with a blade on the other side, you can only get close to the corner in one direction. It's just about how you're forced to handle the saw.
Hi what rule do you use with the circular saw
It's the Kreg Rip Cut: amzn.to/2MFQOBo
Great for DIY, but I'm not sure if it will hold up on a jobsite. The rail is aluminum, but the sled and arm are plastic.
How does this compare in power to Milwaukee's the newer Rear Handle saw?
The rear handle is more powerful.
@@DoresoomReviews As good as this saw is, it does struggle and bind up on the pressure treated 2x12s. Also the rafter hook could use improvement with as well as detents on the depth gauge.
Where do you buy the dust collection adapter at?
It comes with the saw.
Doresoom Tool Reviews I didn’t buy the kit so I didn’t get one, saw only and no battery. Great videos btw, thanks.
I don't know about retailers, but the parts manual calls the dust adapter part number 49-90-3001. Hopefully that helps.
What track was you using for this?
It's the Kreg Rip Cut: amzn.to/2ImHcHe
I reviewed it here: ruclips.net/video/XHMp-8pqW0w/видео.html
Where do I get the vacuum adapter for the dust port
It comes with the saw.
This is the FINEST 7 1/4 Circular saw on the market period . We have used these saws cutting 4x4 posts for 6 hours that’s over 570 posts on single charges !
F CKEN Unbelievable!
no cutting rail. Its junk if you need a saw that cut acuratly
I'm a mikwaukee guy, most of my tools are m18 fuel but i must say my dewalt flexvolt is stronger and faster than this new m18 saw. I was surprised on the lack of power on this saw
Julio Rodriguez I agree ,my flexvolt has way more power than the Milwaukee.
I bought the 190mm track saw and it wasn't align so they replaced it for me after I emailed them
But it's ridiculous that I have to buy the track from milwaukee because it's different than the makita and fistools plus the dust goes everywhere except the exhaust opening which is really sad when you see just a standard makita performing way better
They don't make that here in the US, and from what I've seen that's not a true track saw. I would expect the 6.5" track saw coming out soon will be much better.
This is the problem when you up the amperage instead of voltage to increase power. Motors, controllers and power cables have to be much bigger and heavier. Milwaukee needs to bite the bullet and introduce a new, higher voltage, line of cordless power tools.
They do but they're not going to though, because they have the patents for the all 18 volt batteries.
Drizzy Williams That's why I think Dewalt introduced the Flexvolt at 60 volts ,to reduce the amperage draw ,just sayin.
I have lots of m18 xc5.0 battery, can I use that , I’m just a DIYER, planning to buy a baretool only? Please reply
Yeah, you can get by with a bunch of 5Ah batteries if you don't plan on a ton of rip cuts. Constant high load situations could overheat several 5Ah batteries in a short span of time if you're really pushing it though. But for cross cuts and sheet goods you should be totally fine with just 5Ah batteries.
Doresoom Tool Reviews what about the HD battery can I use a regular charger or needs a fast charger? I’m low in budget maybe just buy the HD battery in a future?
All M18 batteries can be used in all M18 chargers. It will just take a lot longer to charge a 12Ah in the standard charger.
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Alright !!! Somebody testing different batteries. Home Depot has a online only sale for this saw to receive a free 5 amp battery.... I bought the $299 battery pack w the rocket Light and I am wondering if I can use the 8 amp battery with this saw....
Oh yeah, the 8Ah should work great with this saw. I'd expect it to perform similarly to the 6Ah HO battery.
@@DoresoomReviews I think the $299 kit has the 6 and 8 battery, I haven't opened it yet... So 6 or 8 should work good.... I would just return the 5 ah batt
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Can it cut a 3x6 ???
Just barely. Max cut depth is 2.5".
why do different ah batteries provide different amounts of power? Makes no sense to me...
Because the number and type of internal cells are different. The new 6Ah and 12Ah batteries have 21700 cells capable of higher current output levels per cell than the 18650 cells used in the 5Ah and 9Ah batteries.
The 9Ah and 12Ah batteries have 3 sets of 5 cells in parallel, which allows them to pull more current than a 5Ah battery, which only has 2 sets of 5 cells in parallel.
Here's my full performance test video where I talk more about it: ruclips.net/video/kKmW_M6FNtw/видео.html
Can u hook vac up to it
Yes. I showed it with a vac hooked up at 3:40.
Love Milwaukee, am looking at buying this model
They're also coming out with a rear handle blade left saw next month if you're interested in that.
Great for a lefty when are they going do a 7 1/4 for righty’s
I was a bit surprised they didn't come out with a rear handle left blade this year too. Maybe we'll see it at NPS19.
That's why I went with the Dewalt one. I've used both and there is nothing that can compare to the dewalt when cordless other than a true corded mag77. I use the dewalt almost everyday as it is super convenient, cordless, right handed saw, tons of power, and just out right awesome. I even use it to cut hardie board siding all day long.
I think blade on the right side for safety
why is the blade on the wrong side
There is no right or wrong side.
Wrong side if you cannot see the cutting tip of the blade (the line of sight) unless you change to a lefty.
they should have made it guide rail compatible
That would have been nice. I think they have a European version that is.
Did you say 15 Amp??? That should equate 3300 Watt! My corded 1400 W Makita goes through wood like a hot knife through butter, and this is supposedly 235% stronger?
15A*120V = 1800W
@@DoresoomReviews Ah. Here we have 220V. That explains alot.
But 1800W is still insane for a battery circ saw! 😳
LOL, I can see the confusion! I agree - still impressive though!
This saw lacks the balance of the gen 1
Gen 1 all the way.
Instantly sold my gen 2 on eBay after using it.
Just my observation , these battery saws are great for convenience and will crosscut with the best of the corded saws, but if you have to do long rip cuts the batteries go down real quick ,imho if you have hard work to do stick with a corded 15 amp saw .
Do you know which saw models you've used? This one can cut for quite a while on the 12Ah battery, even with rip cuts.
Doresoom Tool Reviews Dewalt Flexvolt with 6.0 battery, new blade ,ripping 90x45 pine .Ripping takes a lot of power , the Dewalt rips like a hot knife through butter and never stalls ,I cut eight mitres ,16 meters of rips and blew some dust with the blower and the battery was nearly done .Dewalts claim of 340 2x4 crosscuts seems about right ,with what I have experienced. The Milwaukee would be about the same I suspect on a 6.0 amp battery. The trouble with putting 9 and 12 amp batteries onboard is weight issue . Can you post an update on your experiences ?
Doresoom Tool Reviews You have to look at amp draw also ,suppose these saws are comparable to a 1600 watt corded saw which is what you need to make full depth long rip cuts in dense hardwood. If this Milwaukee is making 1600 watts under heavy load at 18 volts that equates to say 89 amps of draw ,on a 12ah battery that gives roughly 7 mins at that draw .Imho these high power battery saws are great for crosscuts but sadly lack in heavy work
The saw is backwards though. Blade saw should be on the left
For Left hand people
Not really
Ironically.. it is a east coast vs west coast thing.
I -hate- having blades on the right. Which is why I love most all worm drives.. its proper for right handed cutting. Can eyeball exactly where your cut is going.
These backwards ones are from the east coast tradition... something with roofig cutsg or something.
it's preference......
I just picked this thing up in the homeless despot. It weighs as much as a dang toddler. Seems powerful, but mighty heavy.e
**EDIT** I should clarify, I did not purchase, just quite literally lifted it up and played with it for a bit.
Yeah, it's pretty hefty at 12 pounds with battery.
Wish they would come out with a South paw style.............after all this time you think they would listen, line of sight is essential!!
I'll bet they announce a blade left worm drive style saw at NPS19.
Nate looking to retire my corded Porter cable ........ have heavily invested in the Milwaukee line do to there innovations and the expansion of 12v &18v is hard to beat !!! I’ll hold out till they do but Brushless 6 1/2 I might consider also ....
@@nate839 called it!
RANDY ARCHER South paws are awkward and dangerous, there's a reason why right blades are the most popular.
they need to make this saw with a left side blade
They make a left blade rear handle version now, but still no left blade sidewinder.
@@DoresoomReviews ya i know that new rear handle is nice but its bigger in weight and size and i think its more for the pros/contactor guys with the size and all the extra power the m18 6 1/2 is to small and cant make 45 degree cuts through 2x where this 1 is perfect for us diy guys and girls with a 7 1/4 in blade perfect in size and weight and can make 45 degree cuts through 2x it just needs that blade on the left and ill buy it
Just like their corded circular saw...weak flimsy height adjustment. Every time you adjust height or angle it will have a different out of parallel to the base. Some milwaukee tools are awsome....but when milwaukee sucks they really suck bigtime.
A bit expensive too...
Raj Dann expensive? $799 in Australia
Don't understand why you and UK paid twice as much. Your government is ripping you off. Besides China is much closer to you then we are.
I’m Milwaukee guy 100% but dewalt flexvolt saw it’s much better and powerful
I mean it is 60v vs 18v Milwaukee saw for a 18v is really powerful
Sales have been poor for this saw, because everyone wants blade left
Blade left is correct.
Lou Cifer Blade left is hopeless.
I prefer blade right, so obviously not everyone wants blade left.
Just bought one on 9/12/19. Blade is misaligned with the shoe. Just like yours. Unacceptable.
Agreed. Take that one back right away!
Is the saw made in China? Just wondering. The QA in that country is a joke sometimes.
Right hand blade ,thank God!
$ 399 it's a good price
I think so too - especially if you consider DeWalt's new 12Ah is $250.
Using a Record makes the "test" a joke.
Record? Not sure what you're talking about.
Made in china
Everything is made in China lol