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No way. A marriage is a partnership that both parties contribute to and both have the best interest for each other in mind and act on that principle. Also common set of goals and values . A job is more of a pyramid scheme and you will always stay at the very bottom.
Not sure I agree with this. The paychecks is already expected and earned for exchange of work I already did the past two weeks. That doesn’t make me anymore committed to the job because I’m simply getting paid for work already completed.
BS! Way different, the issue is a marriage is a life time commitment, a corporation is a job, economy changes, inflation, and if that pay day can’t keep up, loyalty is down the drain!!!
@jasonsworld333 god I'm literally getting through my umpteenth "We're a family" training videos for a new job. It just reminds me of that movie, they live
Similar story for me. 15 years, layed off with a lot of other people just before Thanksgiving. Of course the manager's buddies were spared. I was actually relieved, I've never been happier to be free from a place such as that. Oh, and that was after everyone busted their rears to produce a record year, and the reward was a flat 1% raise for everyone, regardless of individual performance.
When you get older, they will do the same again. Why? Because they could hire younger and more gullible people to do the same for less money, PLUS they will believe the BS, since they didn’t experience the nonsense yet.
Agreed. At my company managers and supervisors have been receiving 8-20k bonuses without improving productivity, instead slowing us down with failed projects. Yet we have been denied our bonus for 3 years.
My aunt has worked at the same company for over 23 years. The company is so loyal to her that she is now making $4.00 above minimum wage after being “patient” and “giving it time” for 23 years!!! 🙄
@@russell-gt1dy My neighbors wife is a Costco cashier has amassed 100 mil in 401k/stock bonuses heh. Anyne can make sheet up. Cashier has 1.5 mil. I cant stop laughing.
This is pissing me off. I've had a job where I literally stayed daily for months until late. Came in on weekends, excelled past people who had been employed there for years only to be told I wasn't "competitive enough and hard to read." In many cases they want to get into your head to figure out how to control you beyond what you bring to the table professionally. It's sick.
@ 100% agree. It’s so degrading and painful. I’d put my best foot forward in presentation. Learning outside of the job and because I didn’t want to be part of a gaggle of gossiping managers I wasn’t rewarded. If I didn’t want to go get drinks I was “hard to read”. Man I have family I had to help tend to and real life happening outside of employment. I was always pleasant and respectful. It wasn’t enough.
My boss just told me that she can't "deconstruct me". I thought wtf...I just come in and do my job and try to do my best. She even mentioned a promotion that I didn't even ask about, but told me I would have to do a lot more work. Needless to say, I am looking for other jobs and have applied to many, and recently had an interview. I am leaving this fake workplace.
Corporate brainwash is real. Pay attention how they twist "Loyalty" to benefit them and not you. - Thinking about a promotion or a raise it not being loyal - WHAT!!??
I was loyal. I spent 7 years at my last employer, over delivered, took on the hardest projects, went above and beyond. Until one day we had a reorg and I was thrown into a team of juniors and my seniority was stripped down without notice. It was a wake up call, the "friends" and leaders I was loyal to quickly took off. Always look out for number one.
I’ve had the feeling that coworkers and managers respect you more when you’re clear that a job is a job. Behind closed doors, they clown on the “loyal” guys.
Here's a tip from someone who's seen reorg's and changes in several companies and sectors: If you are performing well and the company does not give you a pay raise each year and provides with proper benefits that support you (Pizza parties are not one of those things) then leave. The excuses will be several: We are having pay cuts this year, there was a company reorg, you didn't go above or beyond, etc etc. - This is all corporate BS and it's used to give you runarounds. When it happens, leave.
“a fish rots from the head down”, and it is so rotten at the top usually to the level few can comprehend. Spiritual poverty strives for the top and there are no rules to get there, lawless people end up there, without any morals and values, predators and scavengers. Not to make it as religious posts, but the wise used to say it all throughout millenniums- 'evil spirits in high places'. Wise don't want to end up there, so they don't strife for it, smart and clever fools usually get there. Then they use that power and wealth to wage wars and unnessesary suffering to get more power and wealth, perpetual loop of misery. One proverb I love in this context is 'by helping bad people you are causing damage to good ones', don't help the Mamon slaves and don't be one to start with.
I was loyal at my first job at least to my boss (not company but now i think its the same). I thought my boss was prepping me to move up. But i think he lost interest when he realized that i wasn't willing to take on extra work for free and work unpaid ot. Promotion was always "around the corner" but in 3 years it never happened. Now this was jr level to intermediate level. Got that promotion asap.
Story of my friend. Worked within a company since they opened (startup), after close to 5 years, right before Christmas, himself and half of the dev team got made redundant. Reason: Company somehow managed to blow the budget with Marketing interns, made a huge loss, upset the shareholders and had to to trim the fat. Upper management is still there, the left over devs are in full panic mode, as workload has nearly tripled. Great example of those late nights, early mornings and extra travel. It all got reeeaallly well appreciated in the end.
same: company head honchos overspent on a project ignoring forecast, project crash due to lack of customers, massive write offs, they shut down our site, offshore work to india, and keep the mothership where people barely show up to work or do any work, but are so good at networking.
I used to be loyal, but then I saw my company will not reward me. Now I’m not loyal, it’s all about me and my family. Company still won’t reward me but at least I’m not sacrificing my family over a dumb job.
You are loyal, to your real family. My family has its problems, but they’ve looked out for me, and I’d never violate their trust. You can’t buy a new family.
My mom was super loyal to her company for 30 years. That loyalty was rewarded with consistent underpay and a pink slip. I learned a lot from that experience.
A startup was bought by a much larger company and the founder of that startup was given tends of millions of dollars and a 2 year spot near the top of the company, easily making 10x the salary of people who had been there for 10 years was making. Loyalty is a myth in business; you're either valuable or you're not.
My rule is that I always evaluate my current employment situation after a year. If things are going the way I would like, or at least in the general direction I want, I'll stay. If not, I'll leave.
Loyalty does not pay off. I am almost a 60 yrs old woman. I became a software developer only 10 yrs ago. I have changed 5 jobs since then. Not being loyal meant for me moving up in my career (working in increasingly more senior jobs) and getting decent pay rises which I would not have dreamt of had I stayed loyal to one company.
"F u, pay me" is the proper attitude to have when it comes to corporate america. Especially since companies dont internally promote or raise pay, have to go elsewhere for a pay raise. And then there's the DIEversity.
loyalty until they can get some indian to do your job for half the money and all our services become worse and worse and worse. It's almost like loyalty should be to our own people and not every other ethnic group of the world.
That’s not how you spell diversity. And those of us who have succeeded on our merits, know that the people who complain about it are losers looking for an excuse.
Anti-Diversity sentiment is just another tool for corporate America to divide the workers. When we spend our time blaming each other, we aren't blaming the people who are actually causing the problems. Low wages, crap benefits, lack of housing, overpriced education, unaffordable medical care...this is corporate America's doing.
Some really want to be part of a group and they don't have anything else but their job. We're tribal peeps at heart and so for some, they get sucked into drinking the coolaid. but it only happens once...
@@Ezberron I'm not tribal. Never go to work socials, never mingle, never socialise. Just there for the money. Couldn't give two craps about the people who just happen to work in the same place I do.
I'm willing to take that if the company I'm working with would just shut up with all this corporate cultist crap, just a place where I go to work, I only have to engage with the manufacturing stuff I'm paid for and I don't have to work with crap of seminars, congress, bullshit activities of HR, etc.
there's a new rule, at least in oregon, where if a massive massive restructuring is coming, they do have to give notice. but that's the only exception I know of
i worked for sears home improvement for 9 years, the week prior i met the company ceo and he invited us all to top golf. the following week all of us got fired on a teams meeting with a 3rd party hr representative, she had an indian accent.
Well, look on the bright side. There are currently only 8 Sears stores left, so that third-party HR representative is most likely going to be calling that CEO up soon to fire him.
Who cares of she was Indian. You basically meant they outsourced the firing with a third party. That's the issue, not the Indian accent, unless you wanted to infer something racist.
@@philwill0123 oh no im not racist it was very difficult to understand her. Im half indian myself but i dont have an indian accent because i was born in texas.
@@philwill0123 Foreign outsourcing is not something that we should ignore, and it isn't something we should apologize for. I don't care if they're "legal" or not, you're the one who should be apologizing to us for selling us out to immigrants while defending them every chance you get.
I am an early model Gen-X, and the OPs viewpoints are 100%. Companies will (and DO) screw employees, and ‘loyalty’ to the company makes no difference. Forget about being rewarded for loyalty too. I have seen soooo many corporate motivators, like the guy in that video…all fake and liars.
If a company isn't loyal to me why should I be loyal to them? A job is a business transaction and that's it. I do work for you, you pay me an agreed upon amount for that work. The problem is they don't see you as equals. They see you as peasants who exist simply to enrich the shareholders and themselves.
Was loyal to my first real employer (I was 16) for about two years. After I got only raises that kept me $2 above min wage to do a job that it took me 4 years and a lifetime of swimming to be eligible to perform, I put in my resignation. All of a sudden, they offered me min wage plus $13 and a promotion to supervisor position... C'mon. It shouldn't be this way. I was loyal, why weren't you until it wasn't too late?
It's very simple. You were doing the job for near minimum wage. Would you go to a store and offer more money for a product that has a price ticket on it?
I work for a company for 15 years. I did about 10-15 hours a week unpaid overtime. I was loyal. Then they introduced work life balanced. Which meant they reduced my hours by 20%, but only lowered my pay by 19%, so it was pay rise according to the company. So I final decided to leave.
Amazing how businesses can make a "business decision without emotion" in order for their own best interests. But as a employee, you can't make a business decision without emotion about your own future, because businesses sole want employees to deal in emotions so the can emotionally blackmail people to stay. The "loyalty" /"we are a family" /"you leaving is letting us down" / "you are obsessed with money over relationship" are all narc family gaslighting crap to distract from doing what's best for you
My first job caring for my father at my last company, they paid me less than new hires and I didn't want to "rock the boat" because they knew how hard it was for him to get into the program so they knew I would just go along to get along. My last straw was they tried to say I couldn't get the OT I was and needed to split it up with another worker. I was not allowed to take my PTO and my last straw was when they tried taking my pay and cutting it in half! I just received my new hire bonus from my new job and I make 200 more a week, the moral of this story is "Even a small business will screw you over, so loyalty isn't rewarded in American business!"
I was loyal to my first big workplace. Worked there 11 years, from that 5 years I didn't get proper salary raises or anything. But I was oh so loyal. Then I burned out, had to switch workplaces. Lo and behold, next company gave me a major raise (compared to what I left with from previous one), stayed there for 6 years, moved on to another and would you look at that, another major bump in salary and position. Never be loyal to a company, it will always just put breaks on yourself.
"give us work we don 't have to pay for" ... working "for" someone or a company is a simple contract between two entities, I do work and you pay me for it , it's that simple
That corporate guy seems to be all about appearance, I detest such people and have no interest in "develop relationships" with false, pretentious and shallow idiots.
The only stat you need against corporate loyalty, is that the average increase in pay staying at the same place is less than inflation, whereas leaving for somewhere else is about 13%
Loyalty is "You pay me to do a job and I do the job. you pay me to do." That's all you get. If I find another place that pays better and/or has less bullshit, I will go work for them. This guy makes me want to vomit, but sadly enough people fall for this hypocritical, fake bullshit.
It's about taking advantage of the workers for higher profits. I love how he says "it's about showing what you can do to the get to the next level". Hey, if that next level was not a lie, it might help. You string us along and when you FINALLY give us a "promotion" it only ever comes with harder work, never higher pay.
Company loyalty is a one way street, don't believe me? Think about when you see people who get terminated effective immediately, yet they will require you to give a 2 week notice when you plan on leaving.
I've never seen any loyalty in company except from management buddies who will protect themselves and their friends regardless of the mistakes they make, even at the cost of tanking the company.
"Look, I'm all about loyalty. In fact, I feel like part of what I'm being paid for here is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly, I'm going wherever they value loyalty the most." - Dwight Schrute
2:54 I was loyal to a company. They abused it and then I got injured. Where was the company's loyalty to me? Screw that. I will reward only what is given from now on. The only ones who will remember how much I worked will be my kids. All they knew is I was always gone. I will never get that time back...where did it get me? Injured and dealing with lawyers. After all MY loyalty they tossed me aside. No ...never again. Work is transactional. It is all it ever was. Loyalty....give me a break...it only goes one way.
19+ years at a company for my boss to give his 20 year old daughter the position I was told I was "working" towards. Trust no company, not even the small businesses. They are not your friends, they are not your family.
Funny this kind of speak wasn't required when they offered traditional pension plans, good but cheap to buy medical/dental/vision/prescription plans, 401(k)s, vacation, sick leave, good discount on their products, work/life balance, regular decent pay raises, chances for upward mobility, pay for parking, and more.
Look loyalty is only as far as how much you pay me for my worth and work you can get from me. If another company can give me more than my loyalty is to myself and to the new company that will pay me. These companies need to realize loyalty is no longer a manipulation they can pull.
Great video, Josh! It takes only about 6-12 months to see how truly, really good a person is at his/her job! 3-6 months is also possible! Waiting years to get promoted is stupid and a waste of your time!
"We don't move fast" until Q3 earning are down and then we will move fast to lay you off! "We don't move fast" unless our bonuses are affected then we move fast to make sure profits look good.
When he said 'in 3, 4, 5 months they start wondering what's next for you,' managers of shit holes say that all the time. Nasty places where people tried to endure and it didn't work. Endurance isn't always a virtue, and you shouldn't stay there a second longer than you have to. I've been in those places and they don't improve. Just leave, you'll be doing yourself a huge favor.
@@uglaegilsdottir Mine started with the military and led to me doing the exact same thing as a civilian. I'm really lucky that law enforcement has become critically low in staffing, as dark as that is.
Instead of wasting all that time and preparation on deflecting blame to employees’ lack of loyalty, maybe it is he who should look in the mirror and understand why he fails to retain his employees so it can be addressed and actually fixed. Vague platitudes about loyalty won’t keep employees who find better opportunities elsewhere.
Loyalty is an old business term for a gone past. I used to work super hard doing the extras and watched incompetent people getting promoted because of who they knew. Now i just do what i am paid for and go home. No extras, no answering my phone when not at work, and family comes first.
That vid seems like the guy is a preacher at the church of shareholder value. Also, it's a perfect example of the language described in The Gervais Principle: the "baby talk" that "sociopathic executives" use to manipulate the "clueless" members of their organization.
As someone who has been a corporate video guy for many years, I promise you this content manager guy behind the camera is eye rolling his way through this “loyalty” conversation. I’ve had to create all kinds of ridiculous content like this over the years.
So while I can appreciate the fact that everyone has to put food on the table for themselves and their families. How exactly does one stomach that kind of project? Not trying to put you on the spot, just genuine curiosity since you said you'd done the same kind of work. So while I can understand not wanting to get fired/reprimanded for saying you won't do a project on morals or principles. What does that do to someone emotionally who is making content to effectively lie to everyone watching or to gaslight them into staying in line with "The way things are"?
@ for a while I just convinced myself that all of the projects I was working on we’re truly impactful in a good way. Eventually it became very obvious that it was all BS or at least most of the time it was. I basically coped by jumping around rapidly to other companies but found out pretty quickly that they were all the same. I threw in the towel about a year ago and I’m now pursuing a completely different career because working in corporate in general really demolished my mental health and physical health for that matter.
@@Craftedbyperri I appreciate the reply, and that makes sense. I couldn't imagine anyone with any actual integrity could do this kind of thing long term without some kind of hit to their health. Mental or otherwise.
I remember years ago when I found your channel, I thought this guy is too young to be this grumpy lol but you were funny so I kept listening! Eventually everything you said was hitting home more and more. The corporate programming is REAL and I hope the people who need deprogramming the most find your channel!
9:04 If he doesn't recognize and seize a good opportunity before it walks out the door, that's his problem. But also, what's the employee going to say? "Oops, guess you were right. Should’ve been more patient and waited for that recognition... but now I have to live with the consequences of being more financially secure. How will I ever sleep at night?" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Had a job, where i brought a lot of value, figured i put the time eventually ill get the IT manager position. Eventually i had to leave to another state and just told them i was moving so here is my notice. They offered me the position, a big raise and opportunity to work remotely and go to another satellite office from time to time. That was my awakening about its not about loyalty, its about if your valuable enough to where your “leadership” is going to be screwed if you leave or not. Ultimately its a pro quo between you and the company. Just know that and your company is your client. Anytime they can drop you and same goes w you them.
Okay, that monologue was INSANE. I work at a Walmart (the one I'm specifically at is atrocious), and EVEN WALMART is super transparent about what to do if you want to move up - they'll give you policy info, who to talk to, what to do/work on, what assessments to take, and even more resources. The idea that corporations don't want you to move up is crazy. IN FACT, (idk how old this change is) they no longer require any kind of schooling/degree/certification to be a team lead or dept head (don't know about any higher than that tho, but they will pay for schooling too). I think whoever wrote that script is an out-of-touch idiot.
Never be loyal to a company, be loyal to people who treat you well. If my current manager left and called me two weeks later with a job offer, I'm gone.
I tried, but I couldn’t get through it all. I’m leaving my job because of implicit nonsense like this. They put me on a PIP that they all but admitted was written to push me out, and entertained themselves with demands therein to “model loyalty and enthusiasm for corporate initiatives”. MODEL. As in “be a f****** MASCOT”. No.
The younger generation is just smart , they saw parents (Like me) tell me all the time "Daughter , do not stay in a place you hate" , so actually the younger generation is our last great hope and I am pretty positive .
Trust ? In employers ? That guy is hilarious. I've only been fired twice. Both times it was a betrayal: the company wanted to save money. Good thing I never trusted them.
So the last place I worked at was there for exactly 1 yr an a 1 month brought me into the office one day an said either you resign or we fire you never been in that position before they said if I resigned I’d be given a two week severance pay I said to fire me an they were stonewalling me an basically forced me to resign cause they didn’t want to pay unemployment I figured if I resigned I’d get unemployment as well after explaining to unemployment the situation I was wrong I resigned I can’t get unemployment and the company never gave me the two weeks severance pay
Husband worked for company for 17 years. Worked hard, even overtime and Saturdays for no extra pay (salaried). He was rewarded with small pay increases and more work. Corporation bought them out and walked him out the door with 4 weeks severance if he signed noncompete and a bunch of other crap. If that isn’t loyalty being taking advantage of, I don’t know what is. My husband just thinks “that’s just how it is” but I’m still resentful of the unrewarded time stolen from our family.
As a retired logistics manager, I can tell you two things for sure: 1. This guy is a sociopath. 2. His people are nowhere near compensated as they should be. Anyone in that industry should be planning their exit as soon as they enter it. It is a total clown show.
Worked in a large Fortune 500 company dealing with mortgage securities. In my old department, 75% were lawyers. Yea perish the thought......I was barely above entry level. Got along OK but they decided I needed to be more "engaged" and I was "volun-told" I'd be part of a department social committee. One of them suggested a happy hour. Given I was a long time bartender and would rather go to a root canal I expressed hesitation and they told me just show up and drink club soda. I politely declined and was laid off 3 months later. Oh FTI I was promoted the year before. The blessing was I landed in a much better place even though the salary cut was significant.
That's because they just recently realized for how long they have been duped by a corporation. Don't feel any pity for them, just mock them and move on.
Loyalty for a company is bs as they can promise you the moon but when you complain that you did not get that promotion after 2.5-3 years with a lot of overtime they tell you that you are next but they give you no timeline and they treat you as collateral damage. Loyalty is when you get consistent raises or promotions even 18-24 months, workers are not pets that require just a belly rubs or head scratches. I was deceived twice and it hurts to be scammed
Your RUclips videos are so important to expose this corporate gaslighting crap! Employees need to hear your words to bring them back to reality and to shake off the continuous brainwashing they are subjected to in their corporate environment.
Dwight Schrute has something to say about loyalty. Dwight is extremely loyal. But, if another opportunity arises, he will go where his loyalty is valued the most.
10:13 "Don't get into something thinking there's gonna be a big worldly change." That word '*worldly*' immediately makes me think this guy expects the apocalypse in his lifetime 😂
My problem with this notion of corporate loyalty is that you have employees at a company for 10-20 years+ that are let go for whatever reasons made up by the higher ups and dont even receive a severance package. It does not matter what your job is. If you have been at a company for an extensive length you should be compensated when you get the red slip.
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You're gradually morphing into Steve Bannon, and I am here for it!
WORKER sheep please become a Father/Mother and create new life to become lower paid future good workers competing against billions for barely survivable inflation adjusted salary.
They treated people as expendable, and now they are upset that everyone behaves like a mercenary.
THiS!
Yep! I second this!
Mercenaries get way higher pay than a state soldier, after all.
That's a fantastic metaphor.
They treat us as expendable but expect us to act the same as if nothing changed, then gas light us when we act differently. It’s not right…
A job is a marriage whose vows are renewed every payday.
Are you saying that doesn't also happen in a marriage? :))
@@Alex-gt5ho😂
No way. A marriage is a partnership that both parties contribute to and both have the best interest for each other in mind and act on that principle. Also common set of goals and values . A job is more of a pyramid scheme and you will always stay at the very bottom.
Not sure I agree with this. The paychecks is already expected and earned for exchange of work I already did the past two weeks. That doesn’t make me anymore committed to the job because I’m simply getting paid for work already completed.
BS! Way different, the issue is a marriage is a life time commitment, a corporation is a job, economy changes, inflation, and if that pay day can’t keep up, loyalty is down the drain!!!
"Loyalty" is corporation gaslight 101 🙄
What do you mean? We are family here lol
Also, a critical feature of crony capitalism, brainwashing the masses.
@@jasonsworld333 And New York City is comprised of five of them.
@jasonsworld333 god I'm literally getting through my umpteenth "We're a family" training videos for a new job. It just reminds me of that movie, they live
@@jasonsworld333 family gaslights all the time! lmao
There is no loyalty with companies. I worked 10 years with a company and when new management came in, I was laid off.
Mergers do that also. It sucks.
Literally laid off 5 days ago in my third job over 5 yrs
Similar story for me. 15 years, layed off with a lot of other people just before Thanksgiving. Of course the manager's buddies were spared. I was actually relieved, I've never been happier to be free from a place such as that. Oh, and that was after everyone busted their rears to produce a record year, and the reward was a flat 1% raise for everyone, regardless of individual performance.
When you get older, they will do the same again. Why? Because they could hire younger and more gullible people to do the same for less money, PLUS they will believe the BS, since they didn’t experience the nonsense yet.
@ 💯
They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work
Old Soviet workers motto. Even they had the same bullshit.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn…nice!
Yeah. Quiet quitting. They get what they pay for.
None of my employers have ever been loyal to me, even when I work hard.
Exactly. Literally none of them in my case. My father warned me: Don't go to work for the State. I did. They're the worst of all.
All I have gotten was more work
working hard for someone else gets you nowhere....i wish i had learned that earlier..
@@joe718gt4 never go above and beyond....that will be what they expect and next time raise is due you wont get it...
@@workingshlub8861 working hard basically makes other people look better and get richer with little to no benefit for yourself
The boss is always "itching" for his or her next bonus or raise, why shouldn't the employee? The company has zero loyalty to you.
Agreed. At my company managers and supervisors have been receiving 8-20k bonuses without improving productivity, instead slowing us down with failed projects. Yet we have been denied our bonus for 3 years.
People at the top didn't get there by being "nice guys" (corporate, government, or military). Unfortunately, this is an ancient truism.
My aunt has worked at the same company for over 23 years. The company is so loyal to her that she is now making $4.00 above minimum wage after being “patient” and “giving it time” for 23 years!!! 🙄
@@russell-gt1dyThat’s a hell of an outlier. Generally in the US poor people can barely survive
@@russell-gt1dy you must be proud of your neighbor's wife
@@russell-gt1dy My neighbors wife is a Costco cashier has amassed 100 mil in 401k/stock bonuses heh. Anyne can make sheet up. Cashier has 1.5 mil. I cant stop laughing.
Wow
That's messed up
Work colleagues are just people who happen to work at the same place as you. They are NOT your "friends".
Loyalty is a one way street for corporations. They sure as hell aren’t loyal to their employees.
This is pissing me off. I've had a job where I literally stayed daily for months until late. Came in on weekends, excelled past people who had been employed there for years only to be told I wasn't "competitive enough and hard to read." In many cases they want to get into your head to figure out how to control you beyond what you bring to the table professionally. It's sick.
Because sociopathy is rewarded in corporate America and sociopaths are over-represented in management.
@ 100% agree. It’s so degrading and painful. I’d put my best foot forward in presentation. Learning outside of the job and because I didn’t want to be part of a gaggle of gossiping managers I wasn’t rewarded. If I didn’t want to go get drinks I was “hard to read”. Man I have family I had to help tend to and real life happening outside of employment. I was always pleasant and respectful. It wasn’t enough.
same with rating you according to your social media activity
My boss just told me that she can't "deconstruct me". I thought wtf...I just come in and do my job and try to do my best. She even mentioned a promotion that I didn't even ask about, but told me I would have to do a lot more work. Needless to say, I am looking for other jobs and have applied to many, and recently had an interview. I am leaving this fake workplace.
@@greatbooksformen Wishing you all the best!! You deserve better.
Corporate brainwash is real. Pay attention how they twist "Loyalty" to benefit them and not you. - Thinking about a promotion or a raise it not being loyal - WHAT!!??
"Loyalty" aka "Stick around a little longer, we're still working out the details on that offshoring contract"
AI is the new offshore employee.😅
@@Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes they wish AI could do the job and deep down know it cannot do basic functions without breaking down.
I was loyal. I spent 7 years at my last employer, over delivered, took on the hardest projects, went above and beyond. Until one day we had a reorg and I was thrown into a team of juniors and my seniority was stripped down without notice. It was a wake up call, the "friends" and leaders I was loyal to quickly took off. Always look out for number one.
I’ve had the feeling that coworkers and managers respect you more when you’re clear that a job is a job. Behind closed doors, they clown on the “loyal” guys.
Here's a tip from someone who's seen reorg's and changes in several companies and sectors: If you are performing well and the company does not give you a pay raise each year and provides with proper benefits that support you (Pizza parties are not one of those things) then leave. The excuses will be several: We are having pay cuts this year, there was a company reorg, you didn't go above or beyond, etc etc. - This is all corporate BS and it's used to give you runarounds. When it happens, leave.
@@joaofarinha551 I'd say leave as soon as you identify any of these red flags.
“a fish rots from the head down”, and it is so rotten at the top usually to the level few can comprehend. Spiritual poverty strives for the top and there are no rules to get there, lawless people end up there, without any morals and values, predators and scavengers. Not to make it as religious posts, but the wise used to say it all throughout millenniums- 'evil spirits in high places'. Wise don't want to end up there, so they don't strife for it, smart and clever fools usually get there.
Then they use that power and wealth to wage wars and unnessesary suffering to get more power and wealth, perpetual loop of misery.
One proverb I love in this context is 'by helping bad people you are causing damage to good ones', don't help the Mamon slaves and don't be one to start with.
I was loyal at my first job at least to my boss (not company but now i think its the same). I thought my boss was prepping me to move up. But i think he lost interest when he realized that i wasn't willing to take on extra work for free and work unpaid ot. Promotion was always "around the corner" but in 3 years it never happened. Now this was jr level to intermediate level. Got that promotion asap.
Story of my friend. Worked within a company since they opened (startup), after close to 5 years, right before Christmas, himself and half of the dev team got made redundant. Reason: Company somehow managed to blow the budget with Marketing interns, made a huge loss, upset the shareholders and had to to trim the fat. Upper management is still there, the left over devs are in full panic mode, as workload has nearly tripled. Great example of those late nights, early mornings and extra travel. It all got reeeaallly well appreciated in the end.
Similar, started late night till 1 am for a startup only to be let go when they got acquired
same: company head honchos overspent on a project ignoring forecast, project crash due to lack of customers, massive write offs, they shut down our site, offshore work to india, and keep the mothership where people barely show up to work or do any work, but are so good at networking.
The top will only take care of themselves. Its always those who do the hard work will end up paying for their mistakes
I used to be loyal, but then I saw my company will not reward me. Now I’m not loyal, it’s all about me and my family. Company still won’t reward me but at least I’m not sacrificing my family over a dumb job.
You are loyal, to your real family. My family has its problems, but they’ve looked out for me, and I’d never violate their trust. You can’t buy a new family.
@@aluisious
Jerusalem belongs to Israel long before palestine even existed
Philistine is not palestine
Hamas use his own citizens as meatshield
Right there with you. Loyalty is earned, and it should be a 2 way street.
Fuck yeah!
Loyalty is earned, not given
Fax
This sounds like a dude who has employees running away in droves, desperately telling them to stick around for no reason.
correct. it is expensive to the bottom line & mgt. bonuses to conduct constant hiring. Thanks!
Loyalty is dead and businesses killed it.
My mom was super loyal to her company for 30 years. That loyalty was rewarded with consistent underpay and a pink slip. I learned a lot from that experience.
A startup was bought by a much larger company and the founder of that startup was given tends of millions of dollars and a 2 year spot near the top of the company, easily making 10x the salary of people who had been there for 10 years was making. Loyalty is a myth in business; you're either valuable or you're not.
My rule is that I always evaluate my current employment situation after a year. If things are going the way I would like, or at least in the general direction I want, I'll stay. If not, I'll leave.
no corporation has any loyalty to it’s employees
Loyalty does not pay off. I am almost a 60 yrs old woman. I became a software developer only 10 yrs ago. I have changed 5 jobs
since then. Not being loyal meant
for me moving up in my career
(working in increasingly more
senior jobs) and getting decent pay
rises which I would not have
dreamt of had I stayed loyal to one company.
wow you're lucky you got hired for a first gig at 50
20 Years in IT working from lvl 1 tech to Site admin.. .. Self taught..and self promoting.. Props!
@@John_Lee_ Yes, it is difficult , espe cially for a woman my age, but still possible..
This is the way
"F u, pay me" is the proper attitude to have when it comes to corporate america.
Especially since companies dont internally promote or raise pay, have to go elsewhere for a pay raise.
And then there's the DIEversity.
loyalty until they can get some indian to do your job for half the money and all our services become worse and worse and worse. It's almost like loyalty should be to our own people and not every other ethnic group of the world.
That’s not how you spell diversity. And those of us who have succeeded on our merits, know that the people who complain about it are losers looking for an excuse.
Anti-Diversity sentiment is just another tool for corporate America to divide the workers. When we spend our time blaming each other, we aren't blaming the people who are actually causing the problems. Low wages, crap benefits, lack of housing, overpriced education, unaffordable medical care...this is corporate America's doing.
Sad part is that some naive employees would actually believe in "loyalty to corporate" and even defend it
Naive and delusional 👍
I did. Was so stupid thinking I should be loyal to it.
Some really want to be part of a group and they don't have anything else but their job. We're tribal peeps at heart and so for some, they get sucked into drinking the coolaid. but it only happens once...
Because they are 🍑💋
@@Ezberron I'm not tribal. Never go to work socials, never mingle, never socialise. Just there for the money. Couldn't give two craps about the people who just happen to work in the same place I do.
"3 months" turns to 9 like *snap*. Even if you're okay with 3 months of stagnation, it's not doing you any good.
I'm willing to take that if the company I'm working with would just shut up with all this corporate cultist crap, just a place where I go to work, I only have to engage with the manufacturing stuff I'm paid for and I don't have to work with crap of seminars, congress, bullshit activities of HR, etc.
2 week notice is not necessary to many corporations.
Do they give you a 2 week notice on lay-offs or separations of employment?
Yes and no. They won't straight up tell you, but corporations do drop hints layoffs are coming up.
there's a new rule, at least in oregon, where if a massive massive restructuring is coming, they do have to give notice. but that's the only exception I know of
@@chancepaladin There is the Federal WARN act.
My last job gave me a 30-seconds notice before laying me off
(Edit: also no severance 👌🏻)
They don’t give notice but almost always they give you a severance. So if almost all companies give severance, employees are supposed to give notice
i worked for sears home improvement for 9 years, the week prior i met the company ceo and he invited us all to top golf. the following week all of us got fired on a teams meeting with a 3rd party hr representative, she had an indian accent.
Wtf!! So sorry about that 😢
Well, look on the bright side. There are currently only 8 Sears stores left, so that third-party HR representative is most likely going to be calling that CEO up soon to fire him.
Who cares of she was Indian. You basically meant they outsourced the firing with a third party. That's the issue, not the Indian accent, unless you wanted to infer something racist.
@@philwill0123 oh no im not racist it was very difficult to understand her. Im half indian myself but i dont have an indian accent because i was born in texas.
@@philwill0123 Foreign outsourcing is not something that we should ignore, and it isn't something we should apologize for. I don't care if they're "legal" or not, you're the one who should be apologizing to us for selling us out to immigrants while defending them every chance you get.
Amazing they can have these two thoughts in their mind:
"Everyone is replaceable!"
"Why does no one have loyalty?"
My loyalty is to my paycheck not my company.
I am an early model Gen-X, and the OPs viewpoints are 100%.
Companies will (and DO) screw employees, and ‘loyalty’ to the company makes no difference. Forget about being rewarded for loyalty too.
I have seen soooo many corporate motivators, like the guy in that video…all fake and liars.
If a company isn't loyal to me why should I be loyal to them? A job is a business transaction and that's it. I do work for you, you pay me an agreed upon amount for that work. The problem is they don't see you as equals. They see you as peasants who exist simply to enrich the shareholders and themselves.
Was loyal to my first real employer (I was 16) for about two years. After I got only raises that kept me $2 above min wage to do a job that it took me 4 years and a lifetime of swimming to be eligible to perform, I put in my resignation. All of a sudden, they offered me min wage plus $13 and a promotion to supervisor position... C'mon. It shouldn't be this way. I was loyal, why weren't you until it wasn't too late?
It's very simple.
You were doing the job for near minimum wage.
Would you go to a store and offer more money for a product that has a price ticket on it?
I work for a company for 15 years. I did about 10-15 hours a week unpaid overtime. I was loyal. Then they introduced work life balanced. Which meant they reduced my hours by 20%, but only lowered my pay by 19%, so it was pay rise according to the company. So I final decided to leave.
Amazing how businesses can make a "business decision without emotion" in order for their own best interests.
But as a employee, you can't make a business decision without emotion about your own future, because businesses sole want employees to deal in emotions so the can emotionally blackmail people to stay. The "loyalty" /"we are a family" /"you leaving is letting us down" / "you are obsessed with money over relationship" are all narc family gaslighting crap to distract from doing what's best for you
My first job caring for my father at my last company, they paid me less than new hires and I didn't want to "rock the boat" because they knew how hard it was for him to get into the program so they knew I would just go along to get along. My last straw was they tried to say I couldn't get the OT I was and needed to split it up with another worker. I was not allowed to take my PTO and my last straw was when they tried taking my pay and cutting it in half! I just received my new hire bonus from my new job and I make 200 more a week, the moral of this story is "Even a small business will screw you over, so loyalty isn't rewarded in American business!"
I worked for a company for 5 years, never took a day off but then got fired while I was on short term disability.
You should probably contact an employment attorney if it wasn't too long ago.
I was loyal to my first big workplace. Worked there 11 years, from that 5 years I didn't get proper salary raises or anything. But I was oh so loyal. Then I burned out, had to switch workplaces. Lo and behold, next company gave me a major raise (compared to what I left with from previous one), stayed there for 6 years, moved on to another and would you look at that, another major bump in salary and position. Never be loyal to a company, it will always just put breaks on yourself.
"give us work we don 't have to pay for" ... working "for" someone or a company is a simple contract between two entities, I do work and you pay me for it , it's that simple
It is that simple expect the job wants you to work for free based on loyalty to them. 😅
That corporate guy seems to be all about appearance, I detest such people and have no interest in "develop relationships" with false, pretentious and shallow idiots.
bingo! I can spot fakes like that a mile away! They call you "buddy" and other condescending terms like that. I hate them with a passion.
I'm not your buddy, pal.
@@citybeef9873 I'm not your pal, guy.
The only stat you need against corporate loyalty, is that the average increase in pay staying at the same place is less than inflation, whereas leaving for somewhere else is about 13%
Loyalty is "You pay me to do a job and I do the job. you pay me to do." That's all you get. If I find another place that pays better and/or has less bullshit, I will go work for them.
This guy makes me want to vomit, but sadly enough people fall for this hypocritical, fake bullshit.
Corporate loyalty is a cultic mindset.
It's about taking advantage of the workers for higher profits.
I love how he says "it's about showing what you can do to the get to the next level".
Hey, if that next level was not a lie, it might help.
You string us along and when you FINALLY give us a "promotion" it only ever comes with harder work, never higher pay.
Well, the next level is in another company.🤣
Company loyalty is a one way street, don't believe me? Think about when you see people who get terminated effective immediately, yet they will require you to give a 2 week notice when you plan on leaving.
They want a two-week notice, but you’re lucky to get a box for your stuff when they don’t need you anymore.
I've never seen any loyalty in company except from management buddies who will protect themselves and their friends regardless of the mistakes they make, even at the cost of tanking the company.
"Look, I'm all about loyalty. In fact, I feel like part of what I'm being paid for here is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly, I'm going wherever they value loyalty the most." - Dwight Schrute
2:54 I was loyal to a company. They abused it and then I got injured. Where was the company's loyalty to me? Screw that. I will reward only what is given from now on. The only ones who will remember how much I worked will be my kids. All they knew is I was always gone. I will never get that time back...where did it get me? Injured and dealing with lawyers. After all MY loyalty they tossed me aside. No ...never again. Work is transactional. It is all it ever was. Loyalty....give me a break...it only goes one way.
19+ years at a company for my boss to give his 20 year old daughter the position I was told I was "working" towards. Trust no company, not even the small businesses. They are not your friends, they are not your family.
7:16 People aren't thirsting for the company to hold their hand, they're thirsting for autonomy and a paycheck.
Funny this kind of speak wasn't required when they offered traditional pension plans, good but cheap to buy medical/dental/vision/prescription plans, 401(k)s, vacation, sick leave, good discount on their products, work/life balance, regular decent pay raises, chances for upward mobility, pay for parking, and more.
Look loyalty is only as far as how much you pay me for my worth and work you can get from me. If another company can give me more than my loyalty is to myself and to the new company that will pay me. These companies need to realize loyalty is no longer a manipulation they can pull.
Great video, Josh! It takes only about 6-12 months to see how truly, really good a person is at his/her job! 3-6 months is also possible! Waiting years to get promoted is stupid and a waste of your time!
"We don't move fast" until Q3 earning are down and then we will move fast to lay you off! "We don't move fast" unless our bonuses are affected then we move fast to make sure profits look good.
When he said 'in 3, 4, 5 months they start wondering what's next for you,' managers of shit holes say that all the time. Nasty places where people tried to endure and it didn't work. Endurance isn't always a virtue, and you shouldn't stay there a second longer than you have to. I've been in those places and they don't improve. Just leave, you'll be doing yourself a huge favor.
This is why I always worked in government jobs. It takes a LOT more to let someone go AND we all work for the man so we can marinate in our saltiness.
Before you can work government jobs, you have to get hired. I have tried so many times to get hired - to no avail! :(
@@uglaegilsdottir Mine started with the military and led to me doing the exact same thing as a civilian. I'm really lucky that law enforcement has become critically low in staffing, as dark as that is.
Nothing worse than corporate America than the US Government.
@@lucacrespi88 Why is that?
DOGE is coming for ya
Thanks!
I get the creeps just listening to that guy.. something feels wrong.
he probably has unloyal employees buried in his backyard
Instead of wasting all that time and preparation on deflecting blame to employees’ lack of loyalty, maybe it is he who should look in the mirror and understand why he fails to retain his employees so it can be addressed and actually fixed. Vague platitudes about loyalty won’t keep employees who find better opportunities elsewhere.
Loyalty is an old business term for a gone past. I used to work super hard doing the extras and watched incompetent people getting promoted because of who they knew. Now i just do what i am paid for and go home. No extras, no answering my phone when not at work, and family comes first.
Meanwhile: outsources entire company tomorrow other than 20 employees
Watching your content always brightens my mood.
That vid seems like the guy is a preacher at the church of shareholder value.
Also, it's a perfect example of the language described in The Gervais Principle: the "baby talk" that "sociopathic executives" use to manipulate the "clueless" members of their organization.
People grinded non stop at a small start up I worked at briefly and now it's in liquidation and everyone laid off
As someone who has been a corporate video guy for many years, I promise you this content manager guy behind the camera is eye rolling his way through this “loyalty” conversation. I’ve had to create all kinds of ridiculous content like this over the years.
So while I can appreciate the fact that everyone has to put food on the table for themselves and their families. How exactly does one stomach that kind of project?
Not trying to put you on the spot, just genuine curiosity since you said you'd done the same kind of work. So while I can understand not wanting to get fired/reprimanded for saying you won't do a project on morals or principles. What does that do to someone emotionally who is making content to effectively lie to everyone watching or to gaslight them into staying in line with "The way things are"?
@ for a while I just convinced myself that all of the projects I was working on we’re truly impactful in a good way. Eventually it became very obvious that it was all BS or at least most of the time it was. I basically coped by jumping around rapidly to other companies but found out pretty quickly that they were all the same. I threw in the towel about a year ago and I’m now pursuing a completely different career because working in corporate in general really demolished my mental health and physical health for that matter.
@@Craftedbyperri I appreciate the reply, and that makes sense. I couldn't imagine anyone with any actual integrity could do this kind of thing long term without some kind of hit to their health. Mental or otherwise.
What is a good industry you recommend for someone who recently was terminated from a corporate position in customer relations?
I remember years ago when I found your channel, I thought this guy is too young to be this grumpy lol but you were funny so I kept listening! Eventually everything you said was hitting home more and more. The corporate programming is REAL and I hope the people who need deprogramming the most find your channel!
4:39 if people are questioning whether the job is worth it after 5 months, that company has other issues.
You gotta be patient and slow down...unless you are a friend/favorite of somebody upstairs.
💯
9:04 If he doesn't recognize and seize a good opportunity before it walks out the door, that's his problem. But also, what's the employee going to say? "Oops, guess you were right. Should’ve been more patient and waited for that recognition... but now I have to live with the consequences of being more financially secure. How will I ever sleep at night?" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The key is to show the perception but not the reality of loyalty to the company. In other words, fake loyalty.
and this corporate loyalty is one way. business owners want loyalty but they will never give loyalty back
Me before this video: Violence is wrong.
Me after this video: Buying a cheap second hand 3D printer isn't a bad idea at all...
Had a job, where i brought a lot of value, figured i put the time eventually ill get the IT manager position. Eventually i had to leave to another state and just told them i was moving so here is my notice. They offered me the position, a big raise and opportunity to work remotely and go to another satellite office from time to time. That was my awakening about its not about loyalty, its about if your valuable enough to where your “leadership” is going to be screwed if you leave or not. Ultimately its a pro quo between you and the company. Just know that and your company is your client. Anytime they can drop you and same goes w you them.
Okay, that monologue was INSANE. I work at a Walmart (the one I'm specifically at is atrocious), and EVEN WALMART is super transparent about what to do if you want to move up - they'll give you policy info, who to talk to, what to do/work on, what assessments to take, and even more resources. The idea that corporations don't want you to move up is crazy. IN FACT, (idk how old this change is) they no longer require any kind of schooling/degree/certification to be a team lead or dept head (don't know about any higher than that tho, but they will pay for schooling too).
I think whoever wrote that script is an out-of-touch idiot.
Sorry, I don't speak Dinosaur. Don't you have a meteor to go faceplant into?
Never be loyal to a company, be loyal to people who treat you well.
If my current manager left and called me two weeks later with a job offer, I'm gone.
I tried, but I couldn’t get through it all. I’m leaving my job because of implicit nonsense like this. They put me on a PIP that they all but admitted was written to push me out, and entertained themselves with demands therein to “model loyalty and enthusiasm for corporate initiatives”. MODEL. As in “be a f****** MASCOT”.
No.
"Mediocre Management Incorporated" IF you paid well & treated last employee so darn well why the non stop ATTRITION problem boys ?
The younger generation is just smart , they saw parents (Like me) tell me all the time "Daughter , do not stay in a place you hate" , so actually the younger generation is our last great hope and I am pretty positive .
Trust ? In employers ? That guy is hilarious. I've only been fired twice. Both times it was a betrayal: the company wanted to save money. Good thing I never trusted them.
So the last place I worked at was there for exactly 1 yr an a 1 month brought me into the office one day an said either you resign or we fire you never been in that position before they said if I resigned I’d be given a two week severance pay I said to fire me an they were stonewalling me an basically forced me to resign cause they didn’t want to pay unemployment I figured if I resigned I’d get unemployment as well after explaining to unemployment the situation I was wrong I resigned I can’t get unemployment and the company never gave me the two weeks severance pay
Husband worked for company for 17 years. Worked hard, even overtime and Saturdays for no extra pay (salaried). He was rewarded with small pay increases and more work. Corporation bought them out and walked him out the door with 4 weeks severance if he signed noncompete and a bunch of other crap. If that isn’t loyalty being taking advantage of, I don’t know what is. My husband just thinks “that’s just how it is” but I’m still resentful of the unrewarded time stolen from our family.
0:07 tell that your company have a high turnover without saying that you have a high turnover.
Loyalty is EARNED by actions and behavior.
As a retired logistics manager, I can tell you two things for sure:
1. This guy is a sociopath.
2. His people are nowhere near compensated as they should be.
Anyone in that industry should be planning their exit as soon as they enter it. It is a total clown show.
EA Activision, same?
Corporate loyalty only works one way. Companies will drop loyal employees like a bad habit should the need arise.
Work 10 years, nothing changes or improves.
that guy is PC principal from south park, if he turned into a corpobro
If I was working at this guys company and saw his video. I would start looking for a new job right away.
Worked in a large Fortune 500 company dealing with mortgage securities. In my old department, 75% were lawyers. Yea perish the thought......I was barely above entry level. Got along OK but they decided I needed to be more "engaged" and I was "volun-told" I'd be part of a department social committee. One of them suggested a happy hour. Given I was a long time bartender and would rather go to a root canal I expressed hesitation and they told me just show up and drink club soda. I politely declined and was laid off 3 months later. Oh FTI I was promoted the year before. The blessing was I landed in a much better place even though the salary cut was significant.
Typical corporate lapdog drivel from the guy in this video lol
I swear only the boomer company guys at my job complain the most
That's because they just recently realized for how long they have been duped by a corporation. Don't feel any pity for them, just mock them and move on.
They are allies. As far as.you can see them. Trust no one but youre enemy is not your peers.
They have been working 40 years plus and are jaded. You will get there soon enough.
Loyalty for a company is bs as they can promise you the moon but when you complain that you did not get that promotion after 2.5-3 years with a lot of overtime they tell you that you are next but they give you no timeline and they treat you as collateral damage. Loyalty is when you get consistent raises or promotions even 18-24 months, workers are not pets that require just a belly rubs or head scratches. I was deceived twice and it hurts to be scammed
Your RUclips videos are so important to expose this corporate gaslighting crap! Employees need to hear your words to bring them back to reality and to shake off the continuous brainwashing they are subjected to in their corporate environment.
Dwight Schrute has something to say about loyalty. Dwight is extremely loyal. But, if another opportunity arises, he will go where his loyalty is valued the most.
Loyalty dont pay the bills, purpose dont pay the bills, questionable benefits like team events dont pay the bills, "we are family" dont pay the bills.
Loyalty is for family and friends, but should never come before self- respect or your own ambitions.
This manager is toxic. I bet he’s abusive in personal relationships
10:13 "Don't get into something thinking there's gonna be a big worldly change." That word '*worldly*' immediately makes me think this guy expects the apocalypse in his lifetime 😂
My problem with this notion of corporate loyalty is that you have employees at a company for 10-20 years+ that are let go for whatever reasons made up by the higher ups and dont even receive a severance package. It does not matter what your job is. If you have been at a company for an extensive length you should be compensated when you get the red slip.