The tire idea is great sir, that's what I do with all my cars and it just makes things easier and makes my summer tires last around 4 years depending on how I drive, how much I drive etc.
Totally agree, Ian. A few days ago I drove my M3 from East Lothian to Hertfordshire via a stop in Ormskirk. Left with 85%, and only needed charges in Tebay and Rugby, despite the cold and the wet. And my charges took place during food / loo stops anyway, so no extra time lost. Will consider crosses when my tires neeed replacing, but tbh I'm happy with summers on all but a very few days of the year.
Swapped out summer tyres for winters over the last decade....easy DIY job. Worth it if you intend to keep your car for a few years. Traction and safety in poor conditions is a no brainer. Keep up the good work! All very interesting.
My WRX with winter tyres on was incredible. However as I am in England, I've not bothered since and the set I had for my S3 ended up being binned due to age over wear as they'd started cracking from being stored more than used. Up your way you could go full winters or even consider something like the incredible Michelin Cross Climate 2's. Very good reviews and Tyre Review channel is great to see comparisons 👍🏻😄
I swear by winter tyres but only during the cold weather. Especially for a car with a lot of torque. You get a close to summer driving experience in the winter with the right tyres. It is a pain doing the swap but worth it, especially if it snows. Running winter tyres in hot summer weather is a great way to wear them out in just a few thousand miles. Don't be tempted to do that. I run winter tyres on a Jaguar XF Diesel S and my wife's S-Max.
I'm 8 months late, but I'm in Canada (Quebec) and I have a separate set of wheels+tires and I change them myself (the tools are not pricey and last for years).
For your Climate I'd recommend an All Weather tire. That's a dedicated summer and winter tire in one. No seasonal switching required. Affordable and work very well. Michelin X-Climate 2 work very well. Nokian create some good all weather tires as well.
Living on the Canadian prairie pretty much demands everyone have winter tires. I took delivery of my 2023 MY at the end of October 2022 and imediatly ordered winter tires on dedicated wheels with sensors. In November 2022 and Spring 2023 I had Tesla Service come to the house and swap the tiresfor $80. I stored them in my garage. This fall I went to a GM dealer who swaped my tires for $40 and stored them for ~$80. Having winter tires is more for ice than snow. The ability to stop and go at an icy interestion is superior to summer or all season tires. I purchased Michelin X Ice and Snow which I am very happy with. Having 2 sets of tires will obviously extend the life of both sets of tires. If you are interested in Winter driving tips just ask!
I seem to remember that long, long ago, back in the days of cross ply tyres, you could get winter tyres with embedded zig-zag short metal strips embedded in them. Not as effective as studs but also did n't damage the road surface. If I lived up in wonderful Scotland I think I'd go for a dual motor Tesla. Where I am a RWD should be fine.
Personally I have two sets of wheels, one set for summer and one set for winter. It’s much easier to swap them over at home and by the time you’ve swapped them over a few times they’ll be cost neutral as you’re not paying a garage to swap tyres every 6 months 👍🏻 I also don’t understand people who buy a £60k car like a Xc90 and then complain about the cost of tyres. I’ve seen loads of new(ish) bmw 5 series with budget ditch finders. People need to learn to live within their means instead of buying cars based on their outward image.
It is amazing how certain people think a 6 or 7 hour trip would not include a stop! It makes sense to charge whilst you are doing other things such as using the facilities, eating or drinking.
We're taking delivery of our Model Y in just over a week and your content has been amazing in showing the every day reality of EV driving, really appreciate the time you put into your channel. I currently drive a hybrid Rav4 and its maximum range is far further than that of my bladder, stomach and general fatigue levels. I frequently drive 300+ miles to visit elderly parents and naturally stop on the way down. I've been as guilty as anyone of looking at EV range and seeing it as a limiting factor, before realising, again through content like yours, that I just need to think differently. The problem isn't EV range, it's my ICE driving experience and mentality. Then the only real difference between my ICE hybrid and upcoming EV is when I stop in the Tesla, I plug it in. In effect it's more efficient than 'refuelling' because it's doing that while I'm off getting food and using the bathroom. Range anxiety has been replaced with confidence and a different mindset on charging.
Thanks for the nice feedback. The thing that people find hard to grasp is that most of the time the car charges whilst you sleep. Most cars spend most of their lives parked. Imagine being able to refuel them during that time… 🤔😉
You're going to have a blast! Ours was 1 year old last week, had it's "birthday" on a short road trip via France, Belgium and Netherlands. The comment about convenience and mindset is absolutely spot on and although I don't disagree that we have to do things differently, there's only one reason why ICE cars have the range they do and that's because refuelling them is inconvenient. Hard to get that point across when the belief is that "it only takes 3 minutes to fill up". Just about every EV owner has come from ICE and knows the real experience and the infrastructure is there, developed over 100 years but if I want to go to Costco near me for the cheapest fuel, that's 12 minutes each way and a 30 minute queue. In that same time, I would be very close to the same time it took me to charge on a trip from Calais to Switzerland and there, I got to eat while the car charged, not just drive solely for the purpose of fuel. After two long trips in a Tesla, range anxiety will be gone, confidence will be high.
Ive put Michelin Cross Climate2 all season tyres on my car after i came off the road a year ago. Ive never had an issue since and not gotten stuck in icy snow weather. Snow breaking is massively improved too and good control. Dont think i’ll buy another type of tyre again. I drive up and down the country +25k a year so wanted tyres that can handle anything. Ive put about 35k miles on them already, probably another 10-15k before they’ll need switching for a new set. Pals have said how they get X more miles from their tyres…. Bla bla bla but im more concerned about safety in all weather conditions than number of miles from the set. The extra for the tyres is little in comparison to a new bumper, scratch repair or getting towed. Loved the comments re merge in turn, use the space thats available and be considerate but these days you get road warriors blocking both lanes causing more traffic.
@@Royboy50 I stand corrected, slipped into US English for a little while, forgetting the audience. I’m sure your forgiving of international subscribers
I live in just south of British Columbia in Washington State, so a similar climate to Scotland in terms of winter driving. But I also ski in the mountains that get plentiful snow all winter long, so I have a greater need for winter tires. In my 45 years of winter driving, I've found most people think too much in terms of amount or aggressiveness of tread for winter driving and don't understand the benefits of winter rubber compound. Winter tires work so well when things get frozen or have snow on them because of their winter rubber compound primarily, not because their tread pattern is so much more suitable (although it is). On roads with snow and ice, I will take a worn winter tire with shallow tread depth over a brand new all-season tire all winter long. The Pirelli Sottozero II or III tires are excellent for your use case because they still drive very nicely on cold, bare wet pavement. I absolutely hate winter tires that have a loud wooden feel on bare pavement and/or a squirmy feeling when cornering. The Pirelli drive like a proper tire, even when not on snow and ice. So well in fact, I have to force myself to take them off when the threat of snow and ice is gone, in order to preserve their life. There are winter tires that are better for deep, standing water (big puddles) that form during downpours, but as long as you reduce speed for standing water the Pirelli are brilliant winter tires. I think I prefer the Sottozero II's by a small margin over the III's. They seem a little smoother and more civilized when not in snow and ice. They have a small but measurable impact on range, less than most winter tires that have a more aggressive tread pattern. They cost a lot, but how much is your life worth?
Beautiful road the A68. I tend to use the A69 to Glasgow(friends have a tea room that way) I think I'll get a 3 on test drive and do a test route via Gretna green and return on the 68 as I often have meetings up that way, to see the viability of the range. Still not sure whether to make the move but 330e goes back in July.
Don’t go for Nexen. I have them as summer tyres. Every time it rains they lose grip fast. Scary. So I don’t trust their winter tyres too. By the way, currently driving a Kona EV.
Well now I've heard it all, convincing yourself that you haven't stopped to charge, nooo, you have just stopped to eat & might as well plug in while you eat, brilliant! haha, love it.
I would have stopped to eat whether I needed a charge or fuel or not. Because it was lunchtime and I was hungry. And Maccies was mobbed by other people also stopping because they were hungry. You keyboard warrior types do keep making utter tits of yourselves 😂
Why do Luddites, which have never, ever, been in an EV, nevermind drive one (despite their made up claims of the contrary) watch these EV videos? Why are they not watching petrol head videos instead? I'm starting to think many might be flat earthers as well.
@@junehanzawa5165 Oh no, not a Luddite, please not a luddite. I love "JustgetaTesla's" video's, they are really amusing. Its great to see someone trying to convince the world that EV's are such wonderrful inventions when in fact they will just be a short stopgap till the the manufacturers have come up with a cleaner fuel for the ICE which they have already done but have just got to get the price to a reasonable level which will be an easier job than making an EV go more than a few miles. We all know that in the UK we haven't got the infrastructure to deal with mass ownership. We would need another 10 nuclear power stations & thats just not feasible. So I'll go on watching the converted because its such fun.
In Germany, you have to have winter tyres. We change our tyres and store in a local garage. Costs have gone up this year. My BMW costs about 90 euros, my wife's vw less.
Fellow Model Y owner. Had mine since September and have only managed 291kwh/m. Can’t seem to get this less .. I live in Errol so know all about those roadworks between Dundee and Perth . I make the trip to kintore every week for work and I bypass the kings way usually coming off at Tealing and going the back roads coming back on at the Asda near the end of the kingsway
Consider summer tyres in summer and 3PMS rated all season tyres in winter (Michelin Cross Climate 2, Goodyear 4Season gen3, etc.). UK winters are very inconsistent. Some times when winter tyres are best, but also lots of times when you'd be better off on summer tyres, all seasons are a good option for this.
I live in Lancashire, drive a 2.2 diesel Mazda. Got an extra set of genuine wheels and fitted Conti Winter tyres... Did the same on my Nissan Van, my old Focus and my C30 Volvo, and my Passats before that. A bit extravagant...maybe ...but never got stuck yet and winter in the Pennines is very unpredictable. Plus we drive out to Austria every winter and by law you must have winter tyres fitted between 1st November and 15th April if weather and road conditions require it, which is pretty likely. Continentals on the cars Nokian on the van.
Enjoyed the video greatly. Regarding the auto drive system, I would feel the same way I feel about lifts. My brain knows they have been tested, and safety systems are in place, and they are highly unlikely to fail. My gut, however, is turning somersaults. After 40+ years of driving, much of which was in a white van, allowing the car to drive itself is just....weird. Reminiscent of the "JohnnyCab" in Total Recall, but without the sassy AI. Btw, my distrust of lifts is not entirely irrational. I've been stuck in them 3 times over my working life
Swapped my tyres out in Germany for years when I was posted there for six years and just carried it on, there is a missive difference from summer tyres to winter, I just see it as basic safety. You should look at Nokian tyres, they pretty much invented the winter tyres
It's not just the Tesla charging hardware, it's also the management network behind it, and the follow up engineer visits to maintain and fix. This is something clearly lacking in other CPOs when you see them responding to tweets about duff chargers saying things like "what unit was it" and so forth because Id expect if I said, for example, "I used Acme Charger Network at Reading West services at 1pm today and 6 out of 7 units weren't working" or " the credit card readers weren't working" that they'd know that already and would say something like "oh yes we know engineer on way" rather than ask again "exactly what time? What units?" " we'll get back to you". (and they never do)
This. Tesla’s ’magic sauce’ is the network + the fact that they are smart enough to realise that the thing that customers (not fan boys or haters) care about is the customer experience. It’s what makes a Tesla a viable alternative to an ICE for many people - instead of a useless pain in the *** toy.
Get yourself some winter tyres and wheels. Easy to swap over when the season changes and the cost will be offset by wear to the tyres. Also get your winter tyre and wheel set on company expenses. That would set a good example to the company employees who would also be able to do the same. The most important asset of a company is its employees. Health and safety in travelling to and from the workplace. Tax deductible to boot.
Nice video Ian. I drove from Edinburgh to Aberdeen every week for over 10 years and Dundee is a nightmare for traffic. It needs a bypass but as the Scottish government are vehemently against improving road infrastructure (A9 dualling?, A96 improvements?) the chances are nil.
Yes I have always put on winter tyres,usually Nokian.I can't get out onto the main roads without them.Newmachar area but the side roads in snow and ice aren't good.
"You didn't show..." I ignore these, TeslaMate at home logs all the trip metrics and Tessie also does the same. I introduced an 89 year old passenger to plugging in the car, she loved it. :)
Snow socks! OK you have just gone up in my estimation! I have been using snow socks for god knows how many years! They work, are light and easy to fit. Everyone should have a pair! Do you have shoe chains as well? Rudd shoe chains from the car roofbox company! If they are still going.
I just got cheap winter tyres from Peterhead for my 3 a week ago. Last car I had 2 full sets of tyres because I knew somebody breaking one so I got the wheels cheap. Plan is to get a set of normal Model 3 alloys and TPMS by spring. Pilot Sport 4s were a bit slippy in snow last year when new, a year later they're not likely to be better. Winter tyres are often just a case of buying what's available that fits and is rated - any of them will be better than summers but they don't really age well. Dundee, if the traffic's like that I'll take the right before the turn onto the Kingsway and cut back on to the Kingsway just past Tesco.
Why do you keep going through Dundee when there are road works and lane closures between Dundee & Perth. Head off Forfar by Coupar Angus and to Perth Broxden Supercharger or just Friarton Bridge, 31 miles / 45 Minutes. There is a Dundee By-Pass plan but too late now as new Villages are planned and building permissions given. The Kingsway Dundee used to be quick decades ago. JUST GET TYRES, You need them. Brain for thinking, feet for dancing, or slipping.
Good. I watched you in Blairgowre. CPS chargers there as well. And 1 rapid in Couper Angus if not being hogged. Important for going to Glenshee or Braemar. Single rapid in Braemar is hit or miss. Too often out of order.
I have been using Bridgestone Turanza Serenity plus tyres for quite a few years. They are a top of the line general purpose tyre with a good lifespan. Having had no problems with the tyres over the years, I would suggest you try the Bridgestone winter tyres equivalent
Ian, we live in the Alps near Annecy. Just ordered 4 season tyres. Had 4 years of swapping every year (mandatory here from November til March) and it’s a faff. 4 season tyres are same price as winter tyres.
How many destination chargers were there.......pretty ridiculous if only one person can charge overnight isn't it, and then 2kw.......less power than needed for an electric kettle haha.
I have a set of steel rims shod with winter tyres, absolute game changer for sketchy winter conditions. I keep them in the shed when not required. Ive found Vredestein Snowtrac 5 a great combo of price v performance. Im not quite ready for EVs yet but i wonder what your thoughts are regarding the supply from the grid to the high power chargers at scale?
Perhaps think about Michelin cross climates, which are good in both seasons and remove the hassle of swapping twice a year. I shall be going for these next on my Model 3 - very popular choice within the model 3 community.
I would draw attention to the simple fact, that people saying in winter an ev uses more power. Or course it does, people want the heater on. and sit in t shirts. so you get less miles to a unit if electricity. BUT and it is a very big BUT. if you have a petrol or diesel. It is the same. turn the heater on and you get less miles to the fuel you have in the car. BUT and Yes this is another Big BUT. when stuck in traffic a electric car uses very little power. NOT the same as in a petrol or diesel. and having to sit in a noisy car while you go nowhere.
Why don’t you just follow the f1 tyre procedures,wets for rain ,hard for cool weather ,soft when it’s summertime,and inters for that bit In between ,,or do what I do just fit good quality tyres because British weather is never properly summer or winter it’ll save you hundreds probably a grand
@@justgetatesla from the eg website “EG Group today confirms that it has completed the sale of the majority of its UK&I fuel, foodservice, grocery and merchandise business to Asda for a cash consideration of £2bn ($2.5bn).” Do you know something EG don’t?
1. EG secure huge VC investors 2. EG buy Asda 3. EG distribute debts around the group so that the company they bought holds the debt created by them being bought 4. EG sell their old forecourt business to Asda who now have a larger asset base to shoulder the huge debts on This is how VC works. The Issa brothers - who created EG - bought Asda. Not the other way round.
Kingsway through Dundee is a complete pain, I agree. (Un)fortunately the primary Supercharger I use is the Dundee one, so a bypass would be of limited use to me. Did your tyre warning light trigger this week when it got cold? Mine did, reporting 38psi all round.
@@justgetatesla I'm doing few miles at the minute, so I'm happy just to keep an eye on it. I don't want to put more air in and then get warned they are over inflated when the temperature rises.
I had a Volvo V70 Classic automatic that had winter mode! Haven't had that on any car since! I take it the Tesla electronics, can detect simply from the temperature and antilock system, how much torque can be applied to the wheels in order to prevent wheel spin?
Why in the world would you need winter tyres in the UK? Perhaps one morning or evening in the year where you would possibly need them. The only problem I have ever encountered was other people not being able to drive in the conditions. Winter tyres would not have helped me at all. I have driven in the north of Scotland and the Alpes in winter and only twice needed to put chains on as they were required in France.
Thing is, will EG and BP also be paying Tesla for a maintenance contract? If they aren’t then Tesla will get a poor reliability reputation on the back of EG and BP’s tight fistedness……..
I believe there is less to go wrong with the Tesla tombstone design. But yes, if the operator leaves them broken then they will look daft. Like BP and Shell
While merging the way you do is the "right" thing to do, everyone will hate you for it...........the only reason I would buy a Tesla is the charging network, now that a lot of Tesla superchargers have opened up to other EV manufacturers (at cheap rates) I don't see the point of putting up with the poor stying and quality of the vehicles, levels the playing field somewhat in my eyes.
The blue car @ 15:38 you can see is deliberately driving in both lanes to try and stop cars from getting ahead of him to merge in front. I see this a lot here in Australia, which is a shame as like you say and show us - just merge like a zip where both lanes merge! No need to be a d*ck and hog both lanes. Too many people like to "protect" their position in the queue, and hate anyone getting ahead of them. No idea why, must be an ego thing??
Traffic flow is like water flow. Create a blockage and a back pressure wave will stop the flow completely behind the blockage. So the people who try and create the blockage are responsible for creating the traffic jam they are annoyed about sitting in… 😏
How much of the drive do you have autopilot on? Just in traffic, or majority of the time? I want to start using it more but wary of phantom braking etc.
Phantom is just the car being over cautious because it’s usually seen something which it wants to prepare for. The only time I’m not using autopilot whether the adaptive cruise or lane keep is on windy b roads because I like to drive those sections. If I ever feel the car slowing down I just apply some pressure to the accelerator and that cancels the phantom braking.
I know just how you feel when you have to wait at the filling station, I was behind someone the other day waiting for them to fill up with fuel, must have been all of 3 minutes before I could insert the pipe & then it must have taken me another 5 minutes to fill up & pay for it. Bloody hell, I must have been all of 9 minutes, its just not good enough, mind, i don't have to do it again for a couple of weeks so I musn't grumble.
I've lost count of the number of times I got into the car and thought "goddamnit the car doesn't have enough fuel'. Then out of my way to visit a petrol station and the ever increasing cost. If you're honest, you could do without that hassle. I still have a diesel but I rarely use it these days and i'm very glad i don't have to visit fuel stations anymore, not to mention the 90% cost saving.
So a couple of weeks say you fill up once a month doing between 500-1000 miles the same as me I average about 250 miles a working week with various different journeys on the weekend up to another 250. I never go to a petrol station or supercharger. My car is ready every morning for work as I have charged at home, in this weather it is great because the interior is warm and screen cleaned as it prepares for my journey on a schedule. It also costs me about £5 a week to charge overnight at most as I use a cheap overnight tariff. So I don't queue anywhere, I dont spend time warming or cooling the car as driving is relaxing. Is it perfect no, but for most average motorists doing average mileage it is ideal. The costs to purchase and charging infrastructure need to be better but as I drive a Tesla its not as bad as it could be. Maybe don't be negative for the sake of being negative and try and be a bit more helpful in your comments.
So many people miss the point. Most journeys are less than the range of an EV. Which means that for most journeys the only charging you do is whilst you sleep
@@LeeJonesNPT Yeh well you are one of the lucky ones who has their own drive & charging point but what about the millions of people that live in flats & apartments & rows of houses where you can't park anywhere near your own place, how are they going to get the benefits.
Left mine at stansted last 2 weekends whilst at the racing in Ireland and sentry eats up miles. Approx 1mph which has to be factored in when travelling 30 miles each way as well. Only away 3 days at a time but fully charge first to be safe. If I left it more than a week or so I’d have to turn sentry off
Id also recommend having your Tesla app switched off. It isn’t Sentry that uses the battery, it’s the car being awoken. Sentry does awaken it but it’s not the only thing. In my case turning off camera based detection means it only uses USS and if anyone tries a door handle to switch on. Low battery drain.
@@davidlewis4399look it up. it's projected revenue is far above the threshold. Not least because it is now the North American Charging Standard. Better than owning a gas station, those things only make money on junk food
We don’t have the connector issues you have in the US, so it’s a little different here. The old Type 1 connector was replaced pretty quickly with Type 2, and Chademo with CCS. But Tesla can still end up as the standard by selling Tombstones
What I don't understand is even though the Tesla is the best EV car ever with the incredible Supercharger network you still choose to lower yourself to using a common peoples charger at a hotel, even worse one you used an App with? I'm so unfortunate in having a mere Ioniq 5 EV that has to rely on these chargers, I've been to a hotel only to find a Tesla using one of the few chargers working! It must have been horrific for you to use it let alone pay the horrific charges. So why didn't you use your own personal Tesla charger?
Apologies if it came over as a rant, I guess in a way it was! I genuinely don't get why Tesla's would use a non Tesla Supercharger? Just the other day I was driving on the M6 West bound towards Birmingham and I chose to stop at Corley Services as the Instavolt chargers there tend to be less busy then Rigby and indeed when I arrived 4 out of the 8 were available. Happy days! I noticed in bay 7 a Tesla. yet just 20 miles before at Rugby he had 28 Tesla Superchargers and when I checked Zap Map at least 12 were available, so why oh why wouldn't he have stopped and charged at Rugby? Why choose to pay 85p a kWh when he could have just paid 51p or less if he had Free Miles . Thats what I don't get, please enlighten me. Oh and fair pay in even responding! 😃 @@justgetatesla
I don’t use non-Tesla fast chargers if I can avoid it. But destination chargers? If they are good value - and that hotel one is 25p a kE then why not? Better I plug in and get a full charge than someone plugs in a PHEV and it spends most of the time attached and not charging because full
@@grahammurphy4842These comments are always comedy. What powers ICE? Not many variables there. With electric power it's effectively a multi fuel vehicle which could be quite literally coal powered today, sun tomorrow. Now extrapolate that it a lot and let's say all the UK's 32 million vehicles were electric that today were 100% fossil fuelled. You do realise that quite literally they could all be 100% wind or solar or nuclear powered the next day and thereafter? Do you think that the same could be achieved with current ICE vehicles? Obviously that's not going to happen and why it's a transition.
If those cars were polluting the air they wouldn’t be on the road having not been approved by the ministry for their emissions stop scaremongering,have you heard of an mot certificate,get one and you can drive on any road inthe U.K.
The MoT doesn't provide confirmation that a vehicle does not pollute. It merely tests that the vehicle does not pollute more than the limit set for the vehicle type. Cars with a valid MOT may incur additional costs based on their pollution on certain roads, such as the entire area of Greater London.
@@djtaylorutube there is not a vehicle on the road that doesn’t pollute something somewhere ,it’s just the parameters which are adjusted to give the impression that an ev is clean ,which in reality it isn’t
@@Royboy50 Every study available shows that over lifetime an EV is cleaner. They're really nothing to debate here is there? How far do we need to go into this? Taking into account the banana that someone ate on the assembly line? Because bananas have a high CO2 cost compared to locally sourced organic apples.
@@djtaylorutube not many years ago diesel was the preferred mode of transport that’s officially from the nerds in government ,but alas the tone soon changed when revenue was not forthcoming the same will happen to the new heaven sent green transport the narrative will swing in favour of of some other new invention your ev battery will become the new devil ,I reckon you might have ten years then the &hit will hit the fan and you’ll be paying the nbvc,no battery vehicle charge.always remember there is no more devious and hypocritical organisation than the government in power .its about money not pollution
@@Royboy50 Wait, We've switched from EV's aren't clean to something about let's try and get them with a tax angle then! Ok. There was once a window tax too, that got those Victorians with too many windows! That showed 'em.
Ooh just got a notification that unless I’m nice I’m going to get barred, been sarcastic in many pubs over the years, never been barred or even punched, are the ev bregade that scared they’ve bought the wrong car for everyone else apart from them? Electricity is made by a lot of eco and non eco sources! You don’t know how eco your charge is! I must say I have more to my life than trying to work out what an kilowatt hour actually means to a car driver, I get a light on that tells me I’m low on fuel, that does me! People out there do not buy second hand electric, it hasn’t been tested enough, people say you can’t work on new cars, because of the computers,but you can they are just engines! Just be careful!
Sarcasm is nice! When I say “be nice” I mean don’t call out one religion and claim they are forcing government to act on their behalf. Don’t swear at me for the sake of thinking you can insult me. I just laugh at most comments. But have to ban hammer the odd comment / person as I don’t want to get demonetised
Appreciate your perspective of course! On “people don’t buy second hand electric “ are you interested in the facts? Or just what you think the facts are?
I can understand you’re in a different circumstance than us who ask questions, I’m not against anyone who wants to buy any car! I even bought a diesel myself a few years ago , liked the fuel economy and even the sudden turbo boost, but for enjoying a drive manual petrol ( and I mean enjoying a drive, not having the car drive) is the only thing I would have, all the time you’re happy keeping the roads clear for us petrol and diesel drivers keep up the good work! lol ❤️
I used to love my 2015 Mini Cooper. Burbly 3 pot petrol engine, well balanced manual box with auto blip on down shift. Would have bought that instead of the i30 had I found one cheap enough. Remember that I also drive a petrol manual, I am not trying to take them away as I have one. My channel says “if you’re thinking about getting an EV, Just Get A Tesla”. If you aren’t thinking about getting one, I’m not trying to make you do anything
@@justgetatesla that’s good as I don’t think I could afford a cheap electric car! I’ve still got to get the energy back from the long COVID I had at the beginning of last year so I can sort the power steering pump out on the zs180
So in other words we're still hearing excuses as to why your triple the time stopped to charge doesn't actually take any longer than my 5-10 minutes to put in way more range then? How about having to find the chargers which are out in the open and then walk to find something to eat. What's that all about? Usually I just pull straight in off a main road, fill undercover then go in to pay, purchasing some food etc at the same time if I feel like it, and then jump in the car and go. Seems your food choices are also limited by your vehicle powering up eh? Sure would have been fun if it was raining or snowing. And you get to do that nearly twice as often as I do especially if it's cold...................wow what a great step forward. Usually when I'm travelling distances these days it's for a reason. Either I'm going interstate, which here in Australia is a fair haul, for family matters or I'm going camping so any time I waste on the road cuts into what I really want to be doing, or need to be doing. De Nile..................not just a river in Egypt.
As for the walking bit - there are chargers at McDonalds. But the car park is hard to get in and out of (it’s too small) and the location is on a junction which has traffic queuing through it in several directions. So I don’t even drive past it most of the time as you can lose 5 minutes. So park and walk at the Supercharger isn’t really any slower - especially as the Supercharger is much faster than the ones on site at McDonalds
@@justgetatesla So more compromises then? I get that people have different use cases, no EV can even do what I want one of my vehicles to do, but the reality is that Govts. etc are shoving this crap down our throats and there are way too many compromises for many people imo. People continually saying these things aren't an issue or don't exist is just ridiculous imo. A lot of people want, or have to, travel long distances, tow something etc etc and paying a premium for something that just won't do the basics as well as current ICE vehicles even though it's all about muh tech for many. Implementation of all of this is ad hoc at best and I suspect the issues will keep getting worse as more people are forced down this path.
We do it much better. We go through a drive-through, get something to eat and eat while we charge. No stink of gas in our hands, or fumes all around us, and no waiting at all since by the time we finish eating, our EV is all charged up. And perhaps best of all, no change of our credit info being skimmed since we don't need to use it at a Supercharger, nor need to go inside and wait in line/queue to pay with cash. And America is larger than even your Australia, and we often drive 4 or even 5 hours straight before needing to charge. So this impression you none EV drivers seem to have is partly to blame on RUclips channels like this one, which mention the distance but almost never the fact that it took them several hours before needing to stop for the next charge. So it gives the false impression that they are charging every other hour.
The tire idea is great sir, that's what I do with all my cars and it just makes things easier and makes my summer tires last around 4 years depending on how I drive, how much I drive etc.
Totally agree, Ian. A few days ago I drove my M3 from East Lothian to Hertfordshire via a stop in Ormskirk. Left with 85%, and only needed charges in Tebay and Rugby, despite the cold and the wet. And my charges took place during food / loo stops anyway, so no extra time lost.
Will consider crosses when my tires neeed replacing, but tbh I'm happy with summers on all but a very few days of the year.
Swapped out summer tyres for winters over the last decade....easy DIY job. Worth it if you intend to keep your car for a few years. Traction and safety in poor conditions is a no brainer.
Keep up the good work! All very interesting.
My WRX with winter tyres on was incredible. However as I am in England, I've not bothered since and the set I had for my S3 ended up being binned due to age over wear as they'd started cracking from being stored more than used. Up your way you could go full winters or even consider something like the incredible Michelin Cross Climate 2's. Very good reviews and Tyre Review channel is great to see comparisons 👍🏻😄
Yep, loved the video footage of the A68 and wherever else 👍🏻Superb scenery. I am seriously going to have to hire one and go on a road trip myself.
I swear by winter tyres but only during the cold weather. Especially for a car with a lot of torque. You get a close to summer driving experience in the winter with the right tyres. It is a pain doing the swap but worth it, especially if it snows.
Running winter tyres in hot summer weather is a great way to wear them out in just a few thousand miles. Don't be tempted to do that.
I run winter tyres on a Jaguar XF Diesel S and my wife's S-Max.
I'm 8 months late, but I'm in Canada (Quebec) and I have a separate set of wheels+tires and I change them myself (the tools are not pricey and last for years).
For your Climate I'd recommend an All Weather tire. That's a dedicated summer and winter tire in one. No seasonal switching required. Affordable and work very well. Michelin X-Climate 2 work very well. Nokian create some good all weather tires as well.
Thanks for the tips!
Living on the Canadian prairie pretty much demands everyone have winter tires. I took delivery of my 2023 MY at the end of October 2022 and imediatly ordered winter tires on dedicated wheels with sensors. In November 2022 and Spring 2023 I had Tesla Service come to the house and swap the tiresfor $80. I stored them in my garage. This fall I went to a GM dealer who swaped my tires for $40 and stored them for ~$80. Having winter tires is more for ice than snow. The ability to stop and go at an icy interestion is superior to summer or all season tires. I purchased Michelin X Ice and Snow which I am very happy with. Having 2 sets of tires will obviously extend the life of both sets of tires. If you are interested in Winter driving tips just ask!
I seem to remember that long, long ago, back in the days of cross ply tyres, you could get winter tyres with embedded zig-zag short metal strips embedded in them. Not as effective as studs but also did n't damage the road surface. If I lived up in wonderful Scotland I think I'd go for a dual motor Tesla. Where I am a RWD should be fine.
Personally I have two sets of wheels, one set for summer and one set for winter. It’s much easier to swap them over at home and by the time you’ve swapped them over a few times they’ll be cost neutral as you’re not paying a garage to swap tyres every 6 months 👍🏻
I also don’t understand people who buy a £60k car like a Xc90 and then complain about the cost of tyres. I’ve seen loads of new(ish) bmw 5 series with budget ditch finders. People need to learn to live within their means instead of buying cars based on their outward image.
@CraigLedden - 100% agree. Years ago, I worked for a guy that bought a 911 carerra 4s and then complained about the cost of replacement tires.
It is amazing how certain people think a 6 or 7 hour trip would not include a stop! It makes sense to charge whilst you are doing other things such as using the facilities, eating or drinking.
Those people don't pee. They just take the pee
"Nobody stops" they say. Yet I drive past Motorway services that are full of cars...
I can tell you've never worked in sales or travelled across Europe. Easy peasy with an ICE.
Batteries are for toys.
@@SwedishMisha Also easy peasy in an EV.
@@Jaw0lf Keep on praying to your EV God.
We're taking delivery of our Model Y in just over a week and your content has been amazing in showing the every day reality of EV driving, really appreciate the time you put into your channel.
I currently drive a hybrid Rav4 and its maximum range is far further than that of my bladder, stomach and general fatigue levels. I frequently drive 300+ miles to visit elderly parents and naturally stop on the way down. I've been as guilty as anyone of looking at EV range and seeing it as a limiting factor, before realising, again through content like yours, that I just need to think differently. The problem isn't EV range, it's my ICE driving experience and mentality.
Then the only real difference between my ICE hybrid and upcoming EV is when I stop in the Tesla, I plug it in. In effect it's more efficient than 'refuelling' because it's doing that while I'm off getting food and using the bathroom.
Range anxiety has been replaced with confidence and a different mindset on charging.
Thanks for the nice feedback. The thing that people find hard to grasp is that most of the time the car charges whilst you sleep. Most cars spend most of their lives parked. Imagine being able to refuel them during that time… 🤔😉
You're going to have a blast! Ours was 1 year old last week, had it's "birthday" on a short road trip via France, Belgium and Netherlands.
The comment about convenience and mindset is absolutely spot on and although I don't disagree that we have to do things differently, there's only one reason why ICE cars have the range they do and that's because refuelling them is inconvenient. Hard to get that point across when the belief is that "it only takes 3 minutes to fill up". Just about every EV owner has come from ICE and knows the real experience and the infrastructure is there, developed over 100 years but if I want to go to Costco near me for the cheapest fuel, that's 12 minutes each way and a 30 minute queue.
In that same time, I would be very close to the same time it took me to charge on a trip from Calais to Switzerland and there, I got to eat while the car charged, not just drive solely for the purpose of fuel.
After two long trips in a Tesla, range anxiety will be gone, confidence will be high.
Ive put Michelin Cross Climate2 all season tyres on my car after i came off the road a year ago. Ive never had an issue since and not gotten stuck in icy snow weather. Snow breaking is massively improved too and good control. Dont think i’ll buy another type of tyre again. I drive up and down the country +25k a year so wanted tyres that can handle anything. Ive put about 35k miles on them already, probably another 10-15k before they’ll need switching for a new set.
Pals have said how they get X more miles from their tyres…. Bla bla bla but im more concerned about safety in all weather conditions than number of miles from the set. The extra for the tyres is little in comparison to a new bumper, scratch repair or getting towed.
Loved the comments re merge in turn, use the space thats available and be considerate but these days you get road warriors blocking both lanes causing more traffic.
Good point on the tires. Having tires with a decent tread depth really helps in winter, even when there are traction or abs systems in the car.
Tyres
@@Royboy50 I stand corrected, slipped into US English for a little while, forgetting the audience. I’m sure your forgiving of international subscribers
I live in just south of British Columbia in Washington State, so a similar climate to Scotland in terms of winter driving. But I also ski in the mountains that get plentiful snow all winter long, so I have a greater need for winter tires. In my 45 years of winter driving, I've found most people think too much in terms of amount or aggressiveness of tread for winter driving and don't understand the benefits of winter rubber compound. Winter tires work so well when things get frozen or have snow on them because of their winter rubber compound primarily, not because their tread pattern is so much more suitable (although it is). On roads with snow and ice, I will take a worn winter tire with shallow tread depth over a brand new all-season tire all winter long.
The Pirelli Sottozero II or III tires are excellent for your use case because they still drive very nicely on cold, bare wet pavement. I absolutely hate winter tires that have a loud wooden feel on bare pavement and/or a squirmy feeling when cornering. The Pirelli drive like a proper tire, even when not on snow and ice. So well in fact, I have to force myself to take them off when the threat of snow and ice is gone, in order to preserve their life.
There are winter tires that are better for deep, standing water (big puddles) that form during downpours, but as long as you reduce speed for standing water the Pirelli are brilliant winter tires. I think I prefer the Sottozero II's by a small margin over the III's. They seem a little smoother and more civilized when not in snow and ice. They have a small but measurable impact on range, less than most winter tires that have a more aggressive tread pattern. They cost a lot, but how much is your life worth?
@@WalkingEng of course sorry to be an rse
Tyres = tires
No need to be corrected when you were already correct!
Beautiful road the A68. I tend to use the A69 to Glasgow(friends have a tea room that way) I think I'll get a 3 on test drive and do a test route via Gretna green and return on the 68 as I often have meetings up that way, to see the viability of the range. Still not sure whether to make the move but 330e goes back in July.
Here in Denmark, I have a set of Summer wheels, and a set of Winter tyres on steel rims for my car.
I use Continental, and I am so happy with them
Pre condition on a schedule - no more scraping ice or foggy windows 😉
Don’t go for Nexen. I have them as summer tyres. Every time it rains they lose grip fast. Scary. So I don’t trust their winter tyres too.
By the way, currently driving a Kona EV.
If the weather demands winter tyres stay at home becuse most will not have them and will crash and block up the roads. Simples.
That’s a fair point 😁
Its hard to get used to watcing you driving on the left side of the road here in the USA😀.
Well now I've heard it all, convincing yourself that you haven't stopped to charge, nooo, you have just stopped to eat & might as well plug in while you eat, brilliant! haha, love it.
I would have stopped to eat whether I needed a charge or fuel or not. Because it was lunchtime and I was hungry. And Maccies was mobbed by other people also stopping because they were hungry. You keyboard warrior types do keep making utter tits of yourselves 😂
Why do Luddites, which have never, ever, been in an EV, nevermind drive one (despite their made up claims of the contrary) watch these EV videos? Why are they not watching petrol head videos instead? I'm starting to think many might be flat earthers as well.
@@junehanzawa5165 Oh no, not a Luddite, please not a luddite. I love "JustgetaTesla's" video's, they are really amusing. Its great to see someone trying to convince the world that EV's are such wonderrful inventions when in fact they will just be a short stopgap till the the manufacturers have come up with a cleaner fuel for the ICE which they have already done but have just got to get the price to a reasonable level which will be an easier job than making an EV go more than a few miles. We all know that in the UK we haven't got the infrastructure to deal with mass ownership. We would need another 10 nuclear power stations & thats just not feasible. So I'll go on watching the converted because its such fun.
Glad you are here Dennis, keep watching
@@dennisnorton3880 What you just said is the very definition of a Luddite. Case closed.
In Germany, you have to have winter tyres. We change our tyres and store in a local garage. Costs have gone up this year. My BMW costs about 90 euros, my wife's vw less.
Fellow Model Y owner. Had mine since September and have only managed 291kwh/m. Can’t seem to get this less .. I live in Errol so know all about those roadworks between Dundee and Perth . I make the trip to kintore every week for work and I bypass the kings way usually coming off at Tealing and going the back roads coming back on at the Asda near the end of the kingsway
Consider summer tyres in summer and 3PMS rated all season tyres in winter (Michelin Cross Climate 2, Goodyear 4Season gen3, etc.). UK winters are very inconsistent. Some times when winter tyres are best, but also lots of times when you'd be better off on summer tyres, all seasons are a good option for this.
I live in Lancashire, drive a 2.2 diesel Mazda. Got an extra set of genuine wheels and fitted Conti Winter tyres... Did the same on my Nissan Van, my old Focus and my C30 Volvo, and my Passats before that. A bit extravagant...maybe ...but never got stuck yet and winter in the Pennines is very unpredictable. Plus we drive out to Austria every winter and by law you must have winter tyres fitted between 1st November and 15th April if weather and road conditions require it, which is pretty likely. Continentals on the cars Nokian on the van.
Enjoyed the video greatly. Regarding the auto drive system, I would feel the same way I feel about lifts. My brain knows they have been tested, and safety systems are in place, and they are highly unlikely to fail.
My gut, however, is turning somersaults.
After 40+ years of driving, much of which was in a white van, allowing the car to drive itself is just....weird. Reminiscent of the "JohnnyCab" in Total Recall, but without the sassy AI.
Btw, my distrust of lifts is not entirely irrational. I've been stuck in them 3 times over my working life
Right there with you about automation! The first time is "oh my God" !!!
Nah, it provides hours of entertainment constantly answering the question "how is my car going to try to kill me next?"
Good video. Thanks for the time you put into them.
Swapped my tyres out in Germany for years when I was posted there for six years and just carried it on, there is a missive difference from summer tyres to winter, I just see it as basic safety. You should look at Nokian tyres, they pretty much invented the winter tyres
It's not just the Tesla charging hardware, it's also the management network behind it, and the follow up engineer visits to maintain and fix. This is something clearly lacking in other CPOs when you see them responding to tweets about duff chargers saying things like "what unit was it" and so forth because Id expect if I said, for example, "I used Acme Charger Network at Reading West services at 1pm today and 6 out of 7 units weren't working" or " the credit card readers weren't working" that they'd know that already and would say something like "oh yes we know engineer on way" rather than ask again "exactly what time? What units?" " we'll get back to you". (and they never do)
@@davidlewis4399Yes, we buy ice and place it in our frunk. Where do you place yours?
This. Tesla’s ’magic sauce’ is the network + the fact that they are smart enough to realise that the thing that customers (not fan boys or haters) care about is the customer experience. It’s what makes a Tesla a viable alternative to an ICE for many people - instead of a useless pain in the *** toy.
Get yourself some winter tyres and wheels. Easy to swap over when the season changes and the cost will be offset by wear to the tyres. Also get your winter tyre and wheel set on company expenses. That would set a good example to the company employees who would also be able to do the same. The most important asset of a company is its employees. Health and safety in travelling to and from the workplace. Tax deductible to boot.
Nice video Ian. I drove from Edinburgh to Aberdeen every week for over 10 years and Dundee is a nightmare for traffic. It needs a bypass but as the Scottish government are vehemently against improving road infrastructure (A9 dualling?, A96 improvements?) the chances are nil.
Yes I have always put on winter tyres,usually Nokian.I can't get out onto the main roads without them.Newmachar area but the side roads in snow and ice aren't good.
"You didn't show..." I ignore these, TeslaMate at home logs all the trip metrics and Tessie also does the same. I introduced an 89 year old passenger to plugging in the car, she loved it. :)
Snow socks! OK you have just gone up in my estimation! I have been using snow socks for god knows how many years! They work, are light and easy to fit. Everyone should have a pair! Do you have shoe chains as well? Rudd shoe chains from the car roofbox company! If they are still going.
I just got cheap winter tyres from Peterhead for my 3 a week ago. Last car I had 2 full sets of tyres because I knew somebody breaking one so I got the wheels cheap.
Plan is to get a set of normal Model 3 alloys and TPMS by spring.
Pilot Sport 4s were a bit slippy in snow last year when new, a year later they're not likely to be better.
Winter tyres are often just a case of buying what's available that fits and is rated - any of them will be better than summers but they don't really age well.
Dundee, if the traffic's like that I'll take the right before the turn onto the Kingsway and cut back on to the Kingsway just past Tesco.
Why do you keep going through Dundee when there are road works and lane closures between Dundee & Perth.
Head off Forfar by Coupar Angus and to Perth Broxden Supercharger or just Friarton Bridge, 31 miles / 45 Minutes. There is a Dundee By-Pass plan but too late now as new Villages are planned and building permissions given. The Kingsway Dundee used to be quick decades ago. JUST GET TYRES, You need them. Brain for thinking, feet for dancing, or slipping.
I use both the Coupar Angus and Blairgowrie routes as alternatives
Good. I watched you in Blairgowre. CPS chargers there as well. And 1 rapid in Couper Angus if not being hogged. Important for going to Glenshee or Braemar. Single rapid in Braemar is hit or miss. Too often out of order.
I have been using Bridgestone Turanza Serenity plus tyres for quite a few years. They are a top of the line general purpose tyre with a good lifespan. Having had no problems with the tyres over the years, I would suggest you try the Bridgestone winter tyres equivalent
Ian, we live in the Alps near Annecy. Just ordered 4 season tyres. Had 4 years of swapping every year (mandatory here from November til March) and it’s a faff.
4 season tyres are same price as winter tyres.
Agree A68 is the one I use and the A7 great drives
How many destination chargers were there.......pretty ridiculous if only one person can charge overnight isn't it, and then 2kw.......less power than needed for an electric kettle haha.
4 chargers. 7kW total split between each pair
I have a set of steel rims shod with winter tyres, absolute game changer for sketchy winter conditions. I keep them in the shed when not required. Ive found Vredestein Snowtrac 5 a great combo of price v performance. Im not quite ready for EVs yet but i wonder what your thoughts are regarding the supply from the grid to the high power chargers at scale?
Perhaps think about Michelin cross climates, which are good in both seasons and remove the hassle of swapping twice a year. I shall be going for these next on my Model 3 - very popular choice within the model 3 community.
@@davidlewis4399The same as with all ICE cars.
Love the montages
Thanks - it’s an experiment!
I would draw attention to the simple fact, that people saying in winter an ev uses more power. Or course it does, people want the heater on. and sit in t shirts. so you get less miles to a unit if electricity.
BUT and it is a very big BUT.
if you have a petrol or diesel. It is the same. turn the heater on and you get less miles to the fuel you have in the car.
BUT and Yes this is another Big BUT.
when stuck in traffic a electric car uses very little power. NOT the same as in a petrol or diesel.
and having to sit in a noisy car while you go nowhere.
Why don’t you just follow the f1 tyre procedures,wets for rain ,hard for cool weather ,soft when it’s summertime,and inters for that bit In between ,,or do what I do just fit good quality tyres because British weather is never properly summer or winter it’ll save you hundreds probably a grand
EG don't own asda, other way round, asda have bought EG
Incorrect
@@justgetatesla from the eg website “EG Group today confirms that it has completed the sale of the majority of its UK&I fuel, foodservice, grocery and merchandise business to Asda for a cash consideration of £2bn ($2.5bn).”
Do you know something EG don’t?
1. EG secure huge VC investors
2. EG buy Asda
3. EG distribute debts around the group so that the company they bought holds the debt created by them being bought
4. EG sell their old forecourt business to Asda who now have a larger asset base to shoulder the huge debts on
This is how VC works. The Issa brothers - who created EG - bought Asda. Not the other way round.
When it comes to tyres, there is only one make I buy! Michelin!
Kingsway through Dundee is a complete pain, I agree. (Un)fortunately the primary Supercharger I use is the Dundee one, so a bypass would be of limited use to me. Did your tyre warning light trigger this week when it got cold? Mine did, reporting 38psi all round.
Not yet with the tyre warning. But it will be coming…
@@justgetatesla I'm doing few miles at the minute, so I'm happy just to keep an eye on it. I don't want to put more air in and then get warned they are over inflated when the temperature rises.
I had a Volvo V70 Classic automatic that had winter mode! Haven't had that on any car since! I take it the Tesla electronics, can detect simply from the temperature and antilock system, how much torque can be applied to the wheels in order to prevent wheel spin?
All Wheel Drive and electric motors makes for a very smooth application of power.
Why in the world would you need winter tyres in the UK? Perhaps one morning or evening in the year where you would possibly need them. The only problem I have ever encountered was other people not being able to drive in the conditions. Winter tyres would not have helped me at all. I have driven in the north of Scotland and the Alpes in winter and only twice needed to put chains on as they were required in France.
Where do you live?
Thing is, will EG and BP also be paying Tesla for a maintenance contract? If they aren’t then Tesla will get a poor reliability reputation on the back of EG and BP’s tight fistedness……..
I believe there is less to go wrong with the Tesla tombstone design. But yes, if the operator leaves them broken then they will look daft. Like BP and Shell
While merging the way you do is the "right" thing to do, everyone will hate you for it...........the only reason I would buy a Tesla is the charging network, now that a lot of Tesla superchargers have opened up to other EV manufacturers (at cheap rates) I don't see the point of putting up with the poor stying and quality of the vehicles, levels the playing field somewhat in my eyes.
Even I think there are better looking cars!
The blue car @ 15:38 you can see is deliberately driving in both lanes to try and stop cars from getting ahead of him to merge in front. I see this a lot here in Australia, which is a shame as like you say and show us - just merge like a zip where both lanes merge! No need to be a d*ck and hog both lanes. Too many people like to "protect" their position in the queue, and hate anyone getting ahead of them. No idea why, must be an ego thing??
Traffic flow is like water flow. Create a blockage and a back pressure wave will stop the flow completely behind the blockage. So the people who try and create the blockage are responsible for creating the traffic jam they are annoyed about sitting in… 😏
@@justgetatesla Exactly! I also like the phrase "You aren't stuck in traffic, you ARE the traffic!"
How much of the drive do you have autopilot on? Just in traffic, or majority of the time? I want to start using it more but wary of phantom braking etc.
I use it when I want to relax. Phantom Braking not really a thing g which causes me problems
@@justgetatesla thanks, yeah I need to just try it more. Just wary of the possibility of it I guess!
Phantom is just the car being over cautious because it’s usually seen something which it wants to prepare for. The only time I’m not using autopilot whether the adaptive cruise or lane keep is on windy b roads because I like to drive those sections. If I ever feel the car slowing down I just apply some pressure to the accelerator and that cancels the phantom braking.
I know just how you feel when you have to wait at the filling station, I was behind someone the other day waiting for them to fill up with fuel, must have been all of 3 minutes before I could insert the pipe & then it must have taken me another 5 minutes to fill up & pay for it. Bloody hell, I must have been all of 9 minutes, its just not good enough, mind, i don't have to do it again for a couple of weeks so I musn't grumble.
I've lost count of the number of times I got into the car and thought "goddamnit the car doesn't have enough fuel'. Then out of my way to visit a petrol station and the ever increasing cost. If you're honest, you could do without that hassle. I still have a diesel but I rarely use it these days and i'm very glad i don't have to visit fuel stations anymore, not to mention the 90% cost saving.
@@smithleonThat's because you have a brain. Why bother with those without?
So a couple of weeks say you fill up once a month doing between 500-1000 miles the same as me I average about 250 miles a working week with various different journeys on the weekend up to another 250. I never go to a petrol station or supercharger. My car is ready every morning for work as I have charged at home, in this weather it is great because the interior is warm and screen cleaned as it prepares for my journey on a schedule. It also costs me about £5 a week to charge overnight at most as I use a cheap overnight tariff. So I don't queue anywhere, I dont spend time warming or cooling the car as driving is relaxing. Is it perfect no, but for most average motorists doing average mileage it is ideal. The costs to purchase and charging infrastructure need to be better but as I drive a Tesla its not as bad as it could be. Maybe don't be negative for the sake of being negative and try and be a bit more helpful in your comments.
So many people miss the point. Most journeys are less than the range of an EV. Which means that for most journeys the only charging you do is whilst you sleep
@@LeeJonesNPT Yeh well you are one of the lucky ones who has their own drive & charging point but what about the millions of people that live in flats & apartments & rows of houses where you can't park anywhere near your own place, how are they going to get the benefits.
Do you use sentry mode when away from home?
Yes!
Left mine at stansted last 2 weekends whilst at the racing in Ireland and sentry eats up miles. Approx 1mph which has to be factored in when travelling 30 miles each way as well. Only away 3 days at a time but fully charge first to be safe. If I left it more than a week or so I’d have to turn sentry off
Id also recommend having your Tesla app switched off. It isn’t Sentry that uses the battery, it’s the car being awoken. Sentry does awaken it but it’s not the only thing. In my case turning off camera based detection means it only uses USS and if anyone tries a door handle to switch on. Low battery drain.
Tesla supercharger would be a fortune 500 company if it were a company by itself.
@@davidlewis4399look it up. it's projected revenue is far above the threshold. Not least because it is now the North American Charging Standard. Better than owning a gas station, those things only make money on junk food
We don’t have the connector issues you have in the US, so it’s a little different here. The old Type 1 connector was replaced pretty quickly with Type 2, and Chademo with CCS. But Tesla can still end up as the standard by selling Tombstones
That's why Tesla will become the next Standard Oil that made John Rockefeller the riches man in modern history.
Yeah, let's go buy a 40k + tesla cuz there's gonna be more super chargers!
Wait until tesla v200 chargers until you get the 450 miles in 3 minutes...
That wouldn’t help - I want to be stopped longer than 3 minutes
What I don't understand is even though the Tesla is the best EV car ever with the incredible Supercharger network you still choose to lower yourself to using a common peoples charger at a hotel, even worse one you used an App with? I'm so unfortunate in having a mere Ioniq 5 EV that has to rely on these chargers, I've been to a hotel only to find a Tesla using one of the few chargers working! It must have been horrific for you to use it let alone pay the horrific charges. So why didn't you use your own personal Tesla charger?
Blimey. Bit ranty love
Apologies if it came over as a rant, I guess in a way it was! I genuinely don't get why Tesla's would use a non Tesla Supercharger? Just the other day I was driving on the M6 West bound towards Birmingham and I chose to stop at Corley Services as the Instavolt chargers there tend to be less busy then Rigby and indeed when I arrived 4 out of the 8 were available. Happy days! I noticed in bay 7 a Tesla. yet just 20 miles before at Rugby he had 28 Tesla Superchargers and when I checked Zap Map at least 12 were available, so why oh why wouldn't he have stopped and charged at Rugby? Why choose to pay 85p a kWh when he could have just paid 51p or less if he had Free Miles . Thats what I don't get, please enlighten me. Oh and fair pay in even responding! 😃 @@justgetatesla
I don’t use non-Tesla fast chargers if I can avoid it. But destination chargers? If they are good value - and that hotel one is 25p a kE then why not? Better I plug in and get a full charge than someone plugs in a PHEV and it spends most of the time attached and not charging because full
I would not eat a mcdonalds end of
Come January neither will I be
You need to check into wind turbine not real good for the environment like coal and gas manly how they build and blades end up in a paddock somewhere
“Not really good for the environment like COAL and GAS” 😂
@@justgetatesla so do you think your ev isn’t doing any harm where does your power come from
@@grahammurphy4842These comments are always comedy. What powers ICE? Not many variables there. With electric power it's effectively a multi fuel vehicle which could be quite literally coal powered today, sun tomorrow.
Now extrapolate that it a lot and let's say all the UK's 32 million vehicles were electric that today were 100% fossil fuelled.
You do realise that quite literally they could all be 100% wind or solar or nuclear powered the next day and thereafter?
Do you think that the same could be achieved with current ICE vehicles?
Obviously that's not going to happen and why it's a transition.
Where does the power come from to crack heavy oil into petrol and diesel? Then pump it and store it and transport it?
@@djtaylorutube www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths
If those cars were polluting the air they wouldn’t be on the road having not been approved by the ministry for their emissions stop scaremongering,have you heard of an mot certificate,get one and you can drive on any road inthe U.K.
The MoT doesn't provide confirmation that a vehicle does not pollute. It merely tests that the vehicle does not pollute more than the limit set for the vehicle type.
Cars with a valid MOT may incur additional costs based on their pollution on certain roads, such as the entire area of Greater London.
@@djtaylorutube there is not a vehicle on the road that doesn’t pollute something somewhere ,it’s just the parameters which are adjusted to give the impression that an ev is clean ,which in reality it isn’t
@@Royboy50 Every study available shows that over lifetime an EV is cleaner. They're really nothing to debate here is there?
How far do we need to go into this? Taking into account the banana that someone ate on the assembly line? Because bananas have a high CO2 cost compared to locally sourced organic apples.
@@djtaylorutube not many years ago diesel was the preferred mode of transport that’s officially from the nerds in government ,but alas the tone soon changed when revenue was not forthcoming the same will happen to the new heaven sent green transport the narrative will swing in favour of of some other new invention your ev battery will become the new devil ,I reckon you might have ten years then the &hit will hit the fan and you’ll be paying the nbvc,no battery vehicle charge.always remember there is no more devious and hypocritical organisation than the government in power .its about money not pollution
@@Royboy50 Wait, We've switched from EV's aren't clean to something about let's try and get them with a tax angle then!
Ok. There was once a window tax too, that got those Victorians with too many windows! That showed 'em.
Ooh just got a notification that unless I’m nice I’m going to get barred, been sarcastic in many pubs over the years, never been barred or even punched, are the ev bregade that scared they’ve bought the wrong car for everyone else apart from them? Electricity is made by a lot of eco and non eco sources! You don’t know how eco your charge is! I must say I have more to my life than trying to work out what an kilowatt hour actually means to a car driver, I get a light on that tells me I’m low on fuel, that does me! People out there do not buy second hand electric, it hasn’t been tested enough, people say you can’t work on new cars, because of the computers,but you can they are just engines! Just be careful!
Sarcasm is nice! When I say “be nice” I mean don’t call out one religion and claim they are forcing government to act on their behalf. Don’t swear at me for the sake of thinking you can insult me. I just laugh at most comments. But have to ban hammer the odd comment / person as I don’t want to get demonetised
Appreciate your perspective of course! On “people don’t buy second hand electric “ are you interested in the facts? Or just what you think the facts are?
I can understand you’re in a different circumstance than us who ask questions, I’m not against anyone who wants to buy any car! I even bought a diesel myself a few years ago , liked the fuel economy and even the sudden turbo boost, but for enjoying a drive manual petrol ( and I mean enjoying a drive, not having the car drive) is the only thing I would have, all the time you’re happy keeping the roads clear for us petrol and diesel drivers keep up the good work! lol ❤️
I used to love my 2015 Mini Cooper. Burbly 3 pot petrol engine, well balanced manual box with auto blip on down shift. Would have bought that instead of the i30 had I found one cheap enough. Remember that I also drive a petrol manual, I am not trying to take them away as I have one. My channel says “if you’re thinking about getting an EV, Just Get A Tesla”. If you aren’t thinking about getting one, I’m not trying to make you do anything
@@justgetatesla that’s good as I don’t think I could afford a cheap electric car! I’ve still got to get the energy back from the long COVID I had at the beginning of last year so I can sort the power steering pump out on the zs180
Have been told 70% of Tesla drivers are Swingers and meet at charger stations.
Pity there's no bunch of keys to chuck in the bowl but it's an ideal car with camp mode on.
lol 😂
What does it mean if you put on the light show?
@@egg399. If there is a bunch of other Tesla's, then they can sync up and have light show gangbang!
World record Tesla light show is on RUclips.
@@djtaylorutube I didn’t know that. Is there something you need to do to get that to happen?
So in other words we're still hearing excuses as to why your triple the time stopped to charge doesn't actually take any longer than my 5-10 minutes to put in way more range then?
How about having to find the chargers which are out in the open and then walk to find something to eat.
What's that all about?
Usually I just pull straight in off a main road, fill undercover then go in to pay, purchasing some food etc at the same time if I feel like it, and then jump in the car and go.
Seems your food choices are also limited by your vehicle powering up eh?
Sure would have been fun if it was raining or snowing.
And you get to do that nearly twice as often as I do especially if it's cold...................wow what a great step forward.
Usually when I'm travelling distances these days it's for a reason. Either I'm going interstate, which here in Australia is a fair haul, for family matters or I'm going camping so any time I waste on the road cuts into what I really want to be doing, or need to be doing.
De Nile..................not just a river in Egypt.
So your usage is pretty different to mine! I accept that, why can’t you? I’m not telling you to get a Tesla. I’m just reporting my use of mine.
As for the walking bit - there are chargers at McDonalds. But the car park is hard to get in and out of (it’s too small) and the location is on a junction which has traffic queuing through it in several directions. So I don’t even drive past it most of the time as you can lose 5 minutes. So park and walk at the Supercharger isn’t really any slower - especially as the Supercharger is much faster than the ones on site at McDonalds
@@justgetatesla So more compromises then?
I get that people have different use cases, no EV can even do what I want one of my vehicles to do, but the reality is that Govts. etc are shoving this crap down our throats and there are way too many compromises for many people imo.
People continually saying these things aren't an issue or don't exist is just ridiculous imo.
A lot of people want, or have to, travel long distances, tow something etc etc and paying a premium for something that just won't do the basics as well as current ICE vehicles even though it's all about muh tech for many.
Implementation of all of this is ad hoc at best and I suspect the issues will keep getting worse as more people are forced down this path.
Your channel is literally called JUST GET A TESLA.....!!!!!!
We do it much better. We go through a drive-through, get something to eat and eat while we charge. No stink of gas in our hands, or fumes all around us, and no waiting at all since by the time we finish eating, our EV is all charged up. And perhaps best of all, no change of our credit info being skimmed since we don't need to use it at a Supercharger, nor need to go inside and wait in line/queue to pay with cash.
And America is larger than even your Australia, and we often drive 4 or even 5 hours straight before needing to charge. So this impression you none EV drivers seem to have is partly to blame on RUclips channels like this one, which mention the distance but almost never the fact that it took them several hours before needing to stop for the next charge. So it gives the false impression that they are charging every other hour.