Does David Lee Roth Hates Van Halen's "A Different Kind of Truth"?
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I’ve never understood why people were butt hurt over these songs being from early demos. The drums sound awesome and I love the nastiness of the bass. I’m glad too the last album was with Diamond Dave and not Spammy.
But man with Sammy it would have been so much more musical and the tour would have been worlds better.
Classic Van Halen is not in Sam’s wheelhouse
I'm surprised Roth doesn't like it because I love that album. The Van Halen reunion was amazing, I saw the second night and my best friend Terry saw the first night, and they were all great🤘There is not a Van Halen tribute to Eddie without Roth!
I think Dave probably doesn't like his DLR Band album either since that's not also available for streaming. And that's one his best solo albums IMO
I'm just happy that the last VH album featured Roth, and not Hagar. (The world's oldest fratboy).
Roth wasn’t the reason the tribute didn’t happen. Al wants no part of Sammy being there and Mike insisted on Sam being there.
Anal beads😄 I remember Sam The Red Worm called out A different kind of truth for having old songs from their early days. Yet this two faced dude forgot to mention Right Now! was an old tune Eddie had knocking around for years in the studio. Another one - Amsterdam is another old one Eddie had been working on sincr 1985! Sam Hagar sure likes to forget things,they outta call him The Red Worm Cherrypicker 😄 Anyway A different kind of truth what a way to go out. Their final album,what a smoker. Eddie found his nutsack again and for as much as I dig the new era without Roth there,A different kind of truth is an animal and just eats those records for lunch. As a fan Im happy Dave came back and the band gave us back classic VanHalen again. Dave's lyrics and story telling humor hit so good with Eddie's savage return. All bands dont often go out on a high note,but VanHalen did with this record. RIP Eddie,you'll always be living and blazing on in our stereos🎸
I'm with you, I love ADKOT! The people who seem to have an issue with it are those that like watered down tequila and puffy ramen noodles. I remember Hammy's butt, I mean, Eddie Trunk just criticizing the hell out of it even though that's how albums have been made for the longest time, including Hagard's. Please keep bringing light to the hypocritical nonsense out there.
ADKOT rules!!!!! You wanna know why it rules?!?! Because Eddie’s kid had the great idea of re-recording and refining some great old demos and mixing it with a bunch of new ideas. It’s the best reunion album of all time!!! It’s the best Eddie has played since 1984. And you said it perfectly!!! ADKOT is the 7th VH album!!!
I've never seen many of those pics. Thank u for that. Was very insightful and fun to watch.
Glad you enjoyed it
With all due respect to Mikey, you're right, Wolf fills in nicely on the vocals. I remember Eddie comparing Mike's voice to a piccolo. Great harmonizer, but not a lead vocalist.
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I was very lucky to find ADKOT on red vinyl. It was $37.99. I thought it was a little pricey, but they only made a certain amount of them and they are going for $250.00 and up...
Yeah you got that right about non-Roth VH doesn't sound authentic, im not big on Hagar so when he joined VH it reminded me more of his solo stuff, Eddie still did his thing but something was missing, but it all came right back when Roth rejoined even if his singing is usually hit and miss, the chemistry is there
There’s gotta be some context here that we don’t know beyond Roth just being difficult for no reason. Many things come down to money and the band tried to change his royalties in the late 90’s. I understand that we are not talking physical content here but something’s not adding up.
I think Eddie's voice is way more important to those great backup vocals during the original Van Halen period. Michael Anthony's voice sounds like a girl and I don't dig it by himself.
I love ADKOT
I wish someone could explain to me who’s in charge of the Van Halen catalog. I’ve heard Dave is. I’ve also heard Alex is. All I know is ‘the powers that be’ have stated no new VH material will ever be released. No demos, no unreleased trax.
Dont know who makes these decisions. But if Dave was in charge, why would he allow the Hagar albums to be released in a remastered box set. Doesn’t make sense. As far as the demos and unreleased stuff I’m under the understanding Eddie didn’t want anything else released. Sorry for the rant but it saddens me that we will never ever hear any kind of music from the great VH again
Al is in charge of the catalog. But, certain things require Dave signing off. For example if a song is to be used in a film.
Wolfy is involved too. He talked about it on Stern a couple years ago. He specifically talked about his dad’s shelves of tape at 5150. I think he’s too busy with his own thing right now. But he said he’ll get to listening to all of that stuff at some point.
@@ryanrussell9556 I know Wolfie said that. But, I am here to tell you nothing will be released. Wolfie says a lot of stuff. He's not gonna do anything. Plus, Alex has said everything needs work/there's nothing finished to release. You have to live with the reality that no new VH songs will be released. But, plenty of bootleg songs on RUclips. Alex isn't gonna release those bootlegs, though. Doesn't have the masters. That's all.
@@musicstream26 you’re here to tell me? 😂. Are you a spokesman for the VH family? Nobody knows for sure if we’ll ever hear any of that stuff. But Wolfy has always been a straight shooter. Like Wolfy said, I think they’ll eventually get everything properly archived and maybe we get some instrumental demo stuff released. But we can also hope that the archivist stumbles across some video that nobody knows about. You never know.
@@ryanrussell9556 don't be arrogant. You don't know who I am or who and what I know. You sound like a kid that thinks Santa Clause is real. No instrumentals will be released. There will be no further songs officially released. Glad I could clarify.
Who is the guy in the pic with EVH at the 8:48 mark - is that Doug Aldrich (via DIO and Whitesnake) ??
Listening to VH since 78 myself & I agree with everything you said about the Roth era including Different kind of Truth (Just not Tattoo) I hated that. When they got Sammy, it wasn't the same sound & should have changed the name to Van Hagar. I loved Sammy solo before Van Hagar also. They both lost their edge when they got together.
"DLR Band" isn't on streaming services either and it's a great album. I think Wolf is getting secondhand info through his uncle about the band business. Haven't heard Wolf or Alex promoting Van Hagar either even though Wolf's getting estate money out of it. As far as ADKOT goes, Dave was the one who picked the producer and made the band record at Henson (state of the art equipment) instead of 5150 (old ass equipment). I think Dave's management is trying to work out getting more $ for streaming royalties, but what's weird as that Tokyo Dome is still on streaming services (including the ADKOT songs) and was part of the same contract as ADKOT. Alex and Eddie gaslit Sammy into DLR hate and it seems like Uncle Alex is gaslighting his nephew now.
It wasn't Uncle Alex who told Wolfie the album isnt streaming because of Roth. AND, it's not true that Roth is the reason. Wolfie made a mistake in eluding as such.
I agree adkot. Was fantastic. Besides tattoo , rest of album was all killer! Classic Eddie heavy aggressive playing that made you want to pick up your ax , plug in your Marshall and turn it up to 10
I really liked it. One man’s opinion✌️
How many bands have a final album as strong as A Different Kind Of Truth?
Not many. The last Thin Lizzy album comes close.
@@almosthuman56Thunder & Lightning is better in my view
I think your right that a Reunion with Wolf on guitar with either singer (sorry Gary) and the rest of a group is just never gonna happen, Alex won’t play nice with Mikey or Sammy, Dave won’t play nice with Wolf. Pick two of three and you really need them all.
i love ADKOT and was wondering why it wasn’t available on Spotify (glad i got the CD)…Dave is definitely a strange guy but ya just gotta love Diamond Dave!! 🤘🏼
I agree with you. It’s a fantastic album. I love it. It definitely sounds like the follow up to 1984. That’s how I felt about it when I heard it for the first time. Maybe hardcore fans, including myself, wanted them to work together on something completely brand new. (YOU AND YER BLUES and STAY FROSTY were new songs)
However, I have no issue with ADKOT being mostly old reworked demos, and I was never bummed out by it when I heard about it. That’s why it sounds like THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN. I do wish they would have tuned to Eb like the early records.
I didn't know ROBERT SHAW sang that song in an earlier B&W film in his halcyon youth ? lol😺
I saw VH twice with Wolfie and his voice is great but I never thought he sounded like Mike. Anyone that that he did is tone deaf.
I know Wolfie wants to do his thing but he and or Alex could've thrown something together to honor EVH. Roth isn't required for it even though it'd be great to have him. That ship has sailed though
I like both iterations 4
Good thing I own the CD/DVD
Roth is a genius, but the trade off is he's difficult and crazy.
I do believe the man had some undiagnosed (possibly bi-polar) condition.
Pure speculation.
Having said that, his creativity, voice, lyrics, showmanship & humor, are essential
for Eddie BEING EDWARD (THE KING!)
Time to crank up "Different Kind of Truth"
Roth Rules !!!
BULLETHEAD 🔥🤘🏾
It was a great album. My only gripe is how many Lyrics Dave tried to stuff in the songs.
The best tribute to EVH would be some of the greatest guitarists in the world of Rock do their own tribute with multiple singers, drummers, and bassists. Invite Al, Michael and Wolfe and all 3 singers. Whoever shows up will sing a couple of tunes from their era. If they don't show. Have some great singers on hand. Just make it a party and end it.
Where's buzzkill Al when you need him
Great job as always Sir Ralph
A Different Kind of Truth Rules!!!!! Nonbelievers are Fools
Wolf is an awesome artist
I've got my copies and I love the album
Your TOTALLY RIGHT RALPH about Sammy n DAVE ROCK ON!!!!!!!!! 🤘😈
Everybody does because Van Halen fans know different was a bunch of old demos
Hey! Anal Beads had a great debut album! 😂 I have to own physical copies of the music I listen to. Though I no longer have my vinyl, I own a thousand CDs. I upload them to my computer, then put them onto my iPod for when I'm on the go. I have A Different Kind of Truth on CD. I dig that album. You are correct; it's a heavy album. Great video!
I love tattoo
that record would have been so much better as an instrumental
I admit, ADKOT is hard for me to listen to. Not only is Michael Anthony gone, so is DLR’s voice. It sounds like a bunch of leftover songs that got stitched up and repackaged as an album. Basically the whole thing sounds like a cash grab more so than a proper VH album. Sonically, it sounds great but it’s a hard album for me to enjoy because of all the inner band turmoil and legal shenanigans. And then that putrid live album they put out shortly after really was the final nail in the coffin for me. For me, true VH died with 1984, Fair Warning being the last great VH album (wasn’t a fan of Diver Down and 1984 had way too many keyboards on it for my tastes). But yeah, I can understand why DLR is fighting like mad trying to keep ADKOT in the vaults.
Please. Screw everyone’s opinion. I love Truth and I’ve been there since 78 due to my older brother. No one can tell me different. Eddie’s most aggressive playing in his career.
Amen. Discovered VH in 1978 as well. That album rules!
beats working super great song but the rest i wont say
Me I listen to Deezer to let me know if I'm buying a album from. The band's I like.
If I like it I buy it. I want the real thing. Not files music's.
Rock on Ralph
Right on!
Its a shyt record dont blame him...
I'm probably in a minority but I couldn't get into the album. I wanted to and tried but it didn't connect with me.
Dave's released a few old tracks recently. Maybe for whatever reason he feels this stuff being available to stream will take attention away from his 'newer' stuff. Also, how the fuck did bestiality get dragged into this? That's a weird bit of 'humor'.
Dave's crazy.
The story that Wolf was singing to Mike backing tracks was total B/S ....Wolf was the most consistent vocalist in the VH band ....ADKOT although criticized for having old songs on it had real POWER......CHINATOWN for instance with Father & Son locked in with Alex like atomic clockwork....,,,,,,Honeybabysweetiedoll had some terrific sonic invention play from ED like the great old days, Blood & Fire was great...'You and Your Blues' was a great new song totally different from the 'reworked demoes'..& Beats Working with Wolfs Jammy bass lead in before his Dads solo was TERRIFIC. I don't know why Dave doesn't help put the record back up ......Its really silly of him considering on Blood & Fire he says - 'I told you I was coming back. Did you miss me ? ...Say it like you mean it'....Why is he turning his back on ADKOT ??....Daft of a brush this is Dave.... & instead spending his time on ridiculous new stuff like 'The Sh*t that killed Elvis'......& 'Manda,Manda Bala be-an-ass in Brazilian in a Las Vegas Bonanza' . 🤔🙄
HELL YEAH! A D K O T IS A EPIC ALBUM! A RETURN TO REAL VAN HALEN! .....BUT IF YOU PREFER THE REAL VAN GINA, THEN......
Every Sammy album, and Dave album have songs from early demoes! Eddie was brilliant, and I think this reference to earlier demoes is silly and used by those who bought into Sammy’s comments about the album. Also, maybe that bothered Dave too, as he had less original “new” material” he got to put down on that album. Who knows, but demoes were used on em ALL! Love me VH! Drop Dead Legs.
I think it did bother Dave. In an interview a couple years after ADKOT came out, Dave said something like “me and Eddie haven’t written a song together in 30 years”. I think he meant in the same room as each other. I think most of ADKOT was written and recorded separately. The VH boys would go into the studio and record all the music for the tracks and then send it to Dave to right lyrics and then he’d go in and record vocals separately. Even most of the backing vocals on ADKOT are Dave’s voice double and triple tracked.
PS: the best they could do (&would never happen either ) is Michael anthony on bass - WVH on guitar - and make an LP - but NOT call it VH - but .......i dunno "unchained " or something
The once great diamond Dave is now just embarrassing. Only person who doesnt know is Dave himself
Sad but true
@@almosthuman56you wouldn't know Dave from your elbow so quit yer speculating about ADKOT, and don't believe every howling misrepresentation you read in the media!!...but please DO keep up the Sammy bashing! That prick is still popping off in interviews coz he's a nobody without the VH name.
ADKOT is great, would’ve been better with Michael Anthony, IMO!
I didnt like it much either.
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Hagar way better then Roth
It's basically a re-recording of old demos from the 70's that previously evolved into other tunes, so what's the point? It's not really a new record per se. And without Michael Anthony in the band, forget it!
Imagine Satriani doing 4 nights somewhere - then Vai - another town with a different set -then John 5 - etc etc....make a composite LP from all the different guitarists - the tour would be a smash - the LP fantastic
but they couldnt do it ......they are all too damaged from years of infighting
Sam RIPPED the songs on ADKOT as old songs and old ideas. Well Mr. Hagar, you're 1 of 2 things....either COMPLETELY clueless about the origins of Ed's musical ideas, where they came from, or just how old those ideas always were (nothing wrong with that, as a song idea or riff is either good or bad. Age has NOTHING to do with it), or 2....was bad-mouthing ADKOT just to bad-mouth ADKOT.
If one listens to old VH demos or something like their "VH Zero" recording, you will hear bits of, beginnings of, or riffs of,.....wait for it.....SAMMY ERA VAN HALEN TUNES ! What, Sam ? Those "older" ideas from Ed were just a-ok with you for 5150 ??? Or OU812 ???? or F.U.C.K ???
I constantly catch myself in a, "Hey.....that bit is in "Mine all Mine" kind of recognition when I hear them. Again...NOTHING wrong with that whatsoever. In fact, I think it's cool that the band found a home for a killer riff from 1976 in a 1988 song.
IMHO all that Hagar commentary about the ADKOT album when it came out was simply and solely Sam keeping his name out there, getting press, and attempting to be relevant, as VH-MACH 4 was steamrollering his ass.
Ever hear DLR popping off about tunes on F.U.C.K, saying "Oh yea, I've heard all those songs and riffs before from back when I was in the band" ---- NO !
If these facts I just laid out don't make you see that SAM was ALWAYS about SAM, he just hid it better way back when.....then you probably view VH Hagar time frames thru "RED" colored glasses.
I love Roth but boy he can be an ass. And yes, Sammy can too so could Eddie and Alex but never Michael