The Infamous Menendez Brothers Case Has Returned to the Spotlight
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2024
- A new season of Monsters is airing on Netflix, focusing on the infamous Menendez Brothers. This renewed attention could potentially impact the outcome of their life sentences, even years later. Let’s talk about it.
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They are suing or planning to sue Netflix as they said that the show is historically inaccurate and they were portrayed having a homosexual relationship with each other
It is maddening that Hollywood wants to make everything gay :(
They also told a fake story, so it's all fair game. These "documentaries" are rarely truthful and take huge liberties
I saw the poster for it and was like why is this portraying them as sexual partners.
Cause Ryan Murphy is flaming….
After you murder 2 people you lose the right to say how you get betrayed
Ryan Murphy is disgusting for portraying them as lovers.
Well it’s Ryan Murphy… I mean what do you expect? Have you seen his past work?
@@MrZmax95 Ig you're right🤷🏻♀️
and for portraying Lyle as some kind of evil psychopath
@@p3tliv3smatt3r Exactly
@@p3tliv3smatt3r Exactly
The fact that Ryan Murphy turned their trauma into one of his sick twisted fantasies/fetishes doesn’t get talked about enough
No one wants to talk about the sexual fetishes driving a lot of the cultural phenomena that we're dealing with in our time.
@@fan7708 he strikes me as a very demonic man who enjoys flaunting his deviancy.
Yes exactly like his sexual fetish of r*ping children was the idea that sparked Glee, which was a tv show that convinced sooo many young children to be g*y.
Why are we treating MURDERERS like victims???? If they were abused and it was proven it would be very easy to score an early release. Prisons, do it ALL THE TIME. Where is the video proof of the parents s*xually abusing the brothers?? By the way the family testimony is not reliable, there is reason it wasn't accepted as exculpatory evidence.
I bring up it’s the work of the devil and most people laugh but we had a real spiritual battle going on right now.
The fact the show depicted them as incestuous lovers was disgusting and I can't wrap my head around why that was necessary.
Because the guy who created it is part of the alphabet mafia
Because Ryan Murphy is flamingly gay!!!
@@MegaSheen15I didn't know that, but I definitely guessed it and it's the only thing that makes sense
Why didn’t I get this vibe from the show? I think there was maybe one scene where they partied and I think kissed? But it wasn’t like the entire show was them doing that kind of stuff. IRL they are really close and had grown closer after the murder. But I didn’t get incest vibes from the brothers
That was a rumor floated when this all happened. I’m guessing it was easier for people at that time to accept than the abuse by their father.
Ryan Murphy’s response to the brother’s statements is actually insane.
Ya telling their story or the OJ Simpson story as has been done especially for people that don't know about it that all makes some sense but you don't have to make up lies or make it so extreme
@@shanedaley6236literally every single movie with the "based on true story/real life story" takes liberties with the story.
These 2 are monsters and should never get out.
I agree. He is disrespectful.
If this was two sisters it would have been a completely different verdict. It's disgusting that abuse towards a male is judged differently.
Stop mentioning sex. Women have been charged for life for the same crimes, even though they were abused by the person. It has nothing to do with them being male. 🤦🏻♀️
Highly doubtful given the circumstances of this case and the time it was tried during.
Yeah, it’s no secret. They murdered their parents regardless.
Idk about that... there's this case of a girl who murdered and stabbed her father repeated in his privates, and she was still arrested despite her saying she was abused, and her sister confirming she was abused as well
Who their father was was also a key factor, I'm sure they didn't want anything about him coming out, we now know he was one of many in hollywood/music industry.
Its really weird and creepy that ryan murphy made dahmar a psychopath serial killer looked like a poor guy and made menendez brothers victims of years of sexual, physical and verbal abuse by their own parents as monsters even tho they already admitted their crimes and serving their sentences.
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I didn't really get that impression. It looked that way at first, but then Ryan surprises us with the fact that they're the victims.
Dahmer is an incredibly pathetic figure, the show didn't show him in a good way at all 😅
All human beings, whether they're psychopaths or abuse victims committing a crime ... everyone comes with their own case of complexity that can be empathized with to some extent. Doesn't change what they have done or the impact they had on people and themselves for that matter. But isn't it sad that so many people who do commit crimes, often have been the victims of abuse as children.
@@Chas-u1vI agree with that for sure. I'd say most of them are pathetic though anyways.
Look at Charles Manson, he was a small pathetic weak little man yet look at the following he had though(and I mean the people obsessed with him afterwards also).
Or Karla Homolka. If you watch Karla it portrays her as the victim!!
They always twist the storyline to whatever will get more people interested and watching or to show a "different" side to them.
Always be sure to watch many documentaries before watching a scripted film that's for sure.
I remember reading about how Ryan didn't tell Sarah Paulson that the scene she was gonna do that day was a grape scene. So it freaked her out more and she genuinely was so scared. He didn't tell her because quote "I wasn't sure when you read the scene if you were gonna take issues with it and not want do it." You can't say it's because he thinks they are cold blooded killers and just doesn't care because he doesn't respect his actors either. He is a horrible man. Yes the Menendez brothers killed their parents, that wasn't the question in court, it's were they being horrifically abused and did they fear for their life enough to warrant killing them. And that was withheld in their second trial. No testimonies from family witnesses, the brothers couldn't even say a word about it and just sit there, and even the jurors were told forget about everything from the first case. So it wasn't a fair trial because a fair trial is where you hear all the evidence and all the testimonies and decide for yourself, the jurors, if they are guilt. If you didn't believe them than you vote against them, it's your right, which is what happened in the first trial. The vote count was half and half so they deemed it a mistrial.
Edit: Thank you Brett for actually discussing this. I always wondered what your thoughts on them were.
I mean if we look at what happened on Glee set, is it really that surprising? And granted I loved all those actors from that show.
@@emilygamble8375 I'm not gonna lie, I didn't know he did Glee but I definitely knew about American Horror Story. Thank you for letting me know.
@@emilygamble8375didn’t know he did glee but dang that makes sense all those kids are still messed up , the ones that are alive that is
That Sarah lady is a weirdo too. They all flock together but because this was personal then the weirdness is wrong?
@sierrahjmartinez6703 I'm not sure what you mean. I haven't seen anything that makes her weird imo. But even if she's weird, this was a professional setting. He is her boss and should've told her what would be happening. But he chose not to because he didn't want to take the risk of her saying no, so he just sprung it on her. So she had to go through with it, and it terrified her. He should be treating his staff better, at least have someone walk her through it, and council her if he thought she might be frightened to say no, so at least she had comfort. That's what a normal director and person with compassion and reason would do. But with that being said, you can enlighten me on why you feel that way about her.
I don't care a person's sexual orientation, but when a judge doesn't allow certain testimony of family to heard at trial that is a miscarriage of justice. Plain and simple
I sincerely don't understand why people don't believe them. Two brothers: one, at
14 is losing his hair from stress, writes an essay about a death row inmate who killed his child's rapist, and until 17 plays with stuffed animals, naming all 40 of them and writing letters from their names. The other brother was found at 7 with an injury typical of sexual abuse, which the parents couldn't explain. He wrote letters expressing his fear that his father might come into his room at night. Both have the emotional maturity of 8 to 10-year-olds and exhibited many behaviors typical of children who have suffered sexual abuse. Over 50 people claim to have witnessed them being subjected to various forms of abuse by their parents. Their mother keeps nude photos of them with erections in a separate envelope,
with their faces cut out, and is excessively concerned about her now-adult son's
sexual life. She even complains to her therapist about it and about keeping shameful family secrets. Their father drilled a hole in his son’s room, has a history of beating
'13-year-old' prostitutes, showing child pornography to guests and neighbors, is friends with a pedophile, and another man has accused him rape when he was 13. Everything is extremely obvious to me.
Most people who don’t believe don’t know anything about this case except what they’ve seen in biased media, which has portrayed them as spoiled rich kids who killed their parents for money. That’s it
Not to mention the fact that the family was basically wealthy west coast socialites. It really seems like these poor brothers were actually “made an example of,” by the powers that be, because nothing else seems to make much sense. Increasingly now it is shown that so many “top officials” in high places are not only complicit in high crime abuse, but also that they protect and defend each other, because they all are complicit together. It’s truly abhorrent and my sinful hot take is that the brothers did the right thing by taking justice when none was ever going to be given to them. I know it’s morally wrong but they truly snapped and the parents put themselves in their own danger and suffered their own consequences.
You would think
Great summary of the evidence. Maybe just one of these things wouldn't prove anything (except those pictures - no normal parent does that), but all of it together? That's a lot of coincidences to explain.
It seems to me that most people who think they weren't s abused only remember the 2nd trial and all the bs propaganda about them in the media (and even SNL) and made up their minds a long time ago.
There is no real evidence of any of these claims and the character of the murders themselves belies this abused victim mumbo-jumbo. The cruel murder of the mother throws a serious monkey-wrench into the whole "escaping sadistic, rapey daddy" narrative if you have any understanding of human behaviour as it relates to extreme violence/brutality.
It's bad enough they were never believed or protected, but then to be sentenced to life without parole after all they had been through? Those boys never had a chance.
wasnt there no actual evidence at that time to prove they were really abused by them? (i could be wrong so im just genuinely asking lol)
@@itsnotmaamitssamThere was lots of evidence, pictures of the boy's genitals the Dad had taken, medical records of Erik (bruised inside the throat), witness testimonials of relatives who say they suspected it. You can probably find short clips of some of these.
I don't think you can have any more evidence of something that goes on behind closed doors, I'm not sure what people expected...
Unfortunately they weren't allowed to present most of this in the second trial anymore.
@@Dani-lc9hq i see ty! i had no idea about any of this evidence even though i tried searching for as much as i could on the internet!
@@Dani-lc9hqeven if they did get to present that evidence they can still be found guilty no matter when the trial happens then or if they get a retrial the jury can say we believe they were abused we get how horrible it was but that doesn't make them not guilty
@itsnotmaamitssam there was no evidence. They killed their parents for money. It's sick to see everyone coming to their defense. They're exactly where they belong.
Ryan Murphy thinks he gave them fame? Oh please once you grew up in the 90s you knew who the Menendez brothers were. They were just as infamous as Jeffrey Dahmer that needs no assistance in getting infamy.
Their parents stole their childhood, joy and innocence and the system stole the rest of their lives. They need to be freed! 🦅
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They stole their parents lives.
@@PolaBeaver they didn't feel like victims when they started spending their parents money.
This was not self defense, just a money motivated crime.
@@Mariola.V.G yes, agree
@@Mariola.V.G they felt freedom for the first time. Honestly who cares, they were always rich. And they have proof of the abuse anyway
If they were imprisoned in Norway, maybe their life are free from all trauma they experienced
Hollywood: Eww. That Tarantino guy likes feet. Watch out.
Also Hollywood: Man, Ryan Murphy is soooo underrated.
I live in countryside Brazil, never been to the US. I was born after this crime. Im not on tiktok or instagram and ive heard at least 3 true crime podcasts (from here and abroad) in the past 5 years about the Menendez brothers. Ryan Murphy is crazy
Its so easy for Ryan to see this story as a cashgrab and way to get viewers based off the fact that he wasnt in their shoes for a combined 39 years of assault. an the incestry portrayal….disgusting
Just like any one of these types of shows that get great rating and ppl rave about... I don't see why this is so outrageous
@@HasanPikerIsADouche ppl also have issues with other movies like this
Thank God you're talking about this
These poor boys were failed by everyone. Since they were children, they were living and eating and drinking with the same people who made their lives hell. Then, they get sentenced to life in prison for simply defending themselves against criminals who stole their lives from them. Sometimes people don’t understand how horrific and traumatizing rape is. Now this isn’t just rape, it is chronic abuse and sexual assault since childhood until they grew up..and the worst part? By their own father.
The fact that there is even a debate about whether or not they should be released is sickening.
Agree. Even being imperfect self defense they deserve to be free after all they went through and this long in prison
It's honestly so sad, hearing about the SA on the brothers by their father. It could have been self-defense for all we know.
well they actually planned the whole thing (they admitted to it) but i think there's new evidence to prove that they were actually abused
The last part is what matters, bc if there is no definitive proof, you can't just believe them, especially when they planned and committed the crime... and much like Gypsy Rose, if you can plan that out, then you can plan to escape, go to the police, etc
@@itsnotmaamitssam it’s called imperfect self defense. It was talked ab in the new docu on Netflix. The reason they were sentenced the way they were is bc they didn’t use any of the evidence from the first trial and the judge wanted to lock someone up after not getting convictions on big cases. They had the evidence needed they just were tried unfairly.
@@HasanPikerIsADouche erik and lyle also committed the crime when they were already adults but there was a lot of psychological abuse there. im ofc not justifying what they did in any way im just saying they were adults by the time they unalived them
@@itsnotmaamitssamthe court didn’t allow evidence regarding their SA to be allowed in the court! So it was always there
1:48 that’s just not true. They went viral some years ago. Everyone was talking ab the case. That’s probably why he made the show.
Literally this!!!
Not this viral
yeah i remember around the time the richard ramirez limited series was released they had a resurgence on tiktok
Definitely one of your best uploads so far!
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I watched the show and I loved it. It definitely taught me more about their story and the case itself. From the people involved to everything else, I definitely learned a lot. But I was also extremely aware that everything I watched should be taken with a grain of salt. And if I didn’t understand something or questioned something, I fact checked. I definitely don’t agree anyone should be sending Ryan Murphy flowers but I will say that if it wasn’t for the show, I probably wouldn’t know more about the brothers beyond the fact that they murdered their parents and were abused. Since finishing Monsters, I’ve also watched the brothers’ new documentary and learned even more. The Monster series is insights into real life cultural moments in time, but again not everything should be taken as it is.
This series case has always fascinated me. The Netflix series was intriguing, and it makes you question what both Lyle and Erik were thinking and how conflicted they were inwardly prior to committing their infamous parricide. Thank you, Brett, for posting this story! 😎
Really .. it was horrible and 90 percent made up . Watch the documentary .. those men deserve better
@@Kroh13 what documentary are you talking about? the one that recently got added to netflix?
The acting was great but it was a lot of fiction
@@Kroh13 Really!? 90% lol
after watching all the testimony’s and the new documentary I was surprised about how much was literally word for word from what the brothers said and/or family and friends said about them. Just because it involved stories told from people that disagreed with the boys narrative doesn’t make it inaccurate does it because it’s what was said.
i always knew hollywood could not take real stories or even fictional books and turn them into movies/shows. for me, the absolute worst example of "hollywood-ification" is the movie Jumper vs the books. the movie basically took most of the character names from the book, that he could teleport, and moved to new york, took videos of airports/locations, and robbed a bank from the book, and that was it. in the books, there was no "paladin" organization killing jumpers at all. then you get to the movie 300, another purported example of historical events, and even the cursor search and review of the actual history... yes, there were 300 spartan warriors, but there was also 10,000 mercenaries there too. it was not ONLY the 300 spartans.
Another problem with Ryan Murphy's series is the same problem that comes when media companies create historically 'accurate' docudramas. There are a lot of people who are watching the show and not doing any further research, but taking what they're watching as 'truth'. He is influencing opinion, but trying to distance himself from it at the same time and act like he is unaccountable for his own actions and how they might affect other people.
They did these men such an injustice, it’s already hard enough to know the facts but to basically make a mockery of them is insane to me.
This show was really good in showing each version of the story. We see the brothers version, the parents version, the courtroom version, and the discrepancies between them, but we are not told which one is actually true. It was ENTERTAINMENT.
yep
Back when this happened I thought that they were just cold-blooded Killers but after seeing how evidence got that thrown out of them being molested this is the biggest Injustice of this country. They served well be on their stay I feel so sad about it. They really need to get the Innocence project on these boys and let them out. Such an Injustice to throw out their sexual abuse out of court so ridiculous
They are cold blooded killers.
It's not applicable. Being sexually abused doesn't make murder 3 years down the road, right
@@NealBurkard-ut1oo no but if Gypsy can be out in 8 then y can't they she manipulated a special needs kill for her. They should be charged with voluntary manslaughter. Guess they got tired of being raped and sodomized and since mommy dearest wouldn't help them they would help themselves. If this was girls the outcome would have been different. They served well over their time
@@NealBurkard-ut1ooThe younger one was still being abused at 18 and made to stay at home from college twice a week, what are you talking about
I have so much to say about Ryan Murphy. I don't even know where to start! 🤬
Actually Lyle admits to abusing his little brother at one point.
I feel sorry for them, but they have had 30 years to grow their victim hood and use it as an excuse for pre meditated murder.
And Gypsy rose should still be in prison.
While it’s good Kim met the brothers, she’s more than likely doing this to try to make us forget about her family’s connection with Diddy.
The judge needs to be investigated, he railroaded them into this absurd sentence for his own reputation.
They should have been out years ago. If they were daughters they would have been.
The media portrayed them inaccurately at the time to cover for their powerful industry father.
Have a feeling they will be out end of year. Thankfully with the renewed attention.
It wasn't inaccurate. You are brainwashed by sjws on TikTok.
6:27 this guy is astounded by this show when murder podcasts and creepy reddit stories are binge fuel. Welcome to 2024 my guy.
though podcasts just give the story like you'd find them on the internet. a show makes a drama and tries for shock value. i feel like there's some difference
What happened is that he took the actual real life courtroom scene of Lyle admitting that as a child, he m**ested his brother Erik, once his own abuse from his father had started. However, I don’t believe that to be an ongoing thing, more just a young child thinking it was a normal thing to do with your family members. If you watch the first trial & Lyle’s testimony, he recounts it all there. I think Ryan Murphy dramatised this into some kind of continual in**st situation between the brothers, when that is not at all how they depicted it. It seems like Erik very much forgave Lyle, & they grew up with a normal brotherly bond (albeit trauma bond too), & didn’t want to be sent to different prisons, which they were for a long time, & then eventually reunited in the same one. Ryan is exceptionally talented, I like a lot of his shows, but what on earth was he thinking with this subject matter & response to it? That’s a lot more than just a “dramatised” topic. Pick a lane, Ryan.
Well it's got its talking about it. They should be freed, they have served their time!
Has Tex Watson served his time? Has Patricia Krenwinkle served her time?
@@katemaloney4296 has Casey Anthony served hers?
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I watched the trial live, and heard a lot about the abuse allegations. It is absolutely why this happened. It is still murder. I would have proudly gone to jail having killed my abuser.
The glorifying of these two is so much like the Gypsy Rose stuff. They still killed their parents. They still get to go to prison.
But for 35 years ? No . Gypsy rose didn’t even go that long and she is a grade a manipulator just like her mom , a danger to society .. she will absolutely most likely do this to her kid .. she can’t help her mentally deranged self ! The menendez brothers have grown and seem like they wouldn’t be a danger to actual society in any way but to help others who have been abused . They have paid for their crimes and now it’s time they are let out. The cases couldn’t be more different with the same motive for murder .. why does she get less time ?
I agree, and they DID go to prison for 35 years!!! I think it's enough... They deserve a second chance considering how much they suffered in the hands of their abusive parents.
@@valsptsd814 I don’t think anybody is glorifying them they just feel for them. But I understand what you’re saying. There’s a possibly that ppl who are being abused are going to see the trial and throw their whole life away murdering someone who already took sm from them. They recently did an interview and they said they wish they would’ve reported it, I hope ppl see that too.
Did they deserve prison? On whos terms, the law? "California law allows people to use any force up to lethal force to defend themselves and the defense of others if they have a reasonable belief such force is necessary to prevent worse harm." All the facts of the case and the brothers own words corroborate that they believed it was the only way out.
The justice system let's predators like their parents go free after a few years and locks up their victims for life without a fair trial.
They didn't deserve prison by law. Maybe for religious morals? Oh wait, the Bible justifies self defense. That leaves your own morals.
They don’t. Laws around SA need to be changed. Especially children and your own children.
They shot their abuser 6 times. They shot the abuser's enabler 10 times. That speaks volumes.
The family members and doctors testified saying they were abused
A monster, directing a documentary about monsters, killing monsters
Narcs going after other Narcs 😂
It is easy to accuse dead people of a crime when they can't defend themselves.
@@katemaloney429656 people testified that they witnessed abuse but go off I guess… pictures that their parents took of their genitals were included in the first trial, as well as another picture of the father abusing erik
In my opinion they shouldn’t have gone to jail in the first place, our justice system is not a “justice” system. If the parents did what the brothers said, murder was justice
I agree completely
No .. murder is murder
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Just say you’re a child predator defender.
Love how brett always finds a different way to slide in with her ruff-greens Ads.
Tks for the update on these "monster". 😎
It’s honestly so horrible what happened to those boys 💔
Boys???😂 Don't lie, they weren't children, they were adults. Lyle lived for a while in Alabama away from his parents and then wanted to return, Lyle even had his own condo. Erik found an older girl at Calabasas High, but their relationship was short lived. At a party, Erik and the girl argued and Erik locked the girl in a room. He wouldn't let her leave. She screamed and yelled, but Erik wouldn't let her out. Finally, Erik let the girl go. The girl had enough of Erik. Later she recalled that he was "one of the oddest guys I've ever met
@nellym.6555 stop talking. I hope noone you ever know has been abused, seeing as you're a victim blamer.
@@nellym.6555yes they were boys when they were abused. erik was still being abused at 18 so lyle made a plan to kill their parents to protect him. they both genuinely feared for their lives.
Alright, how many of y'all added "Blame It On The Rain" by Milli Vanilli to your playlist after watching this series? 😭
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They had a great soundtrack.
Meee
Lol, I keep forgetting but about a year ago I listened to it over and over for some reason, its oddly calming. I was born in 78 so I recall when it was known they were not the real singers 😂
Everyone should watch the Peacock documentary about the guy from Menudo who was abused by the manager and Jose Menendez!
The remarks that Ryan made just dug his own grave deeper.
As a filmmaker myself, sometimes I do find some filmmakers are very out of touch of the world, they see people as characters, they see trauma as story written in words, that is probably how Murphy is seeing this case. It’s just wild.
Brett, PLEASE continue to spread the word about this. I pray for them nightly- ever since I heard of this case in 2020. They've been in there WAY too long. What an awful childhood they had to endure. This case would be viewed very differently today. I hope so much that they are able to get out.
They need to be freed asap
"The Menendez brothers should be sending me flowers." THAT IS THE FUNNIEST FUCKIN JOKE I'VE EVER HEARD
Happy Birthday Ms. Cooper!! 🎉
Brett , I love your channel!! Keep making content. You are my go to RUclipsr for all the tea.
Netflix can be sued by Eric and Lyle and they will win!
This actually is upsetting. The Menendez brothers were horribly abused and this case had it happened in 2020 those boys WOULDN'T have seen a DAY OF JAIL. It's a shame...
I’ve never heard about the Menendez brothers or the crimes they committed, but the fact that Ryan Murphy is portraying them in this matter is horrible.
Ryan Murphy's show shouldn't have been renewed after what happened with Dahmer.
Wo unto those who call evil good and good evil.
I've read n seen so much about them because of the time they were trending on tiktok and how horrible I found the case. There's so much information that people either gloss over or just don't know. So many witnesses cooperated the fact they were traumatized and in an abusive household. Both parents were sick individuals, and a lot of evidence showed there were clear signs of abuse for years. This case makes me so mad because at the time the prosecution basically disrespected all male victims of s*xual abuse by saying they could not be r*ped. The details about what happened to them are truly sickening. I hope they're parents are in Hell. The brothers' have suffered since they were born, yet in jail they've done such good.
I’m only a few minutes in, I have a few questions.
Why would anyone care about the brothers as people, when they murdered their parents IN COLD BLOOD!
They were never “brutally raped,” if they were, why was it never mentioned until the second trial?
Why were the only testifying witnesses to the sexual assault all estranged family members?
A lifetime of trauma is instantly cured after murdering both your parents, enough to spend the massive inheritance money they just got on clothes, cars, court side seats at basketball games?
Did everyone seem to forget about the recorded and written confessions they made to their therapist after the murders? Pretty sure they also talked about fabricating the sexual assault in those recordings as well.
Maybe ACTUALLY researching the case.
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Thank u for talking about it ❤❤
What those young men went through at the hands of their parents, I've never understood why they are in jail for killing actual monsters, The Dad for what he did and the Mom for looking the other way.
@@lawrenceladd30 you said it yourself, they killed people, two counts of first degree murder and conspiracy to murder, those are the charges
In 1990 a woman offed her grandma by drowning her in a tub for the same exact thing the brothers said caused the night of their parents. The woman left her mom’s home and came back TWO DAYS LATER to chop her up into pieces, and hid it for 2 years. She got 2 years in prison.
I don't care what they tell you in school, the Menendez Brothers were Black.
And Cleopatra too 😂
What?
@@arakane1301 He's joking about how the Cleopatra documentary on Netflix had that line where someone said Cleopatra was Black, and saying it about the Menendez Brothers on Netflix.
@@samcohen2483 Yes 😅
@@samcohen2483 that's odd.
I feel like after everything that’s come out of Glee and these series, Ryan Murphy should just be exiled at this point.
That Ryan guy is heartless... how disgusting, whatever the truth is, whether the SA was true or not, the whole situation is tragic to say the least and we all should be more careful when talking about it
I went into the show thinking that they were going to show the brothers sides of the story and did not know that it was all these other sides that people speculated about what happened. They never said that was what it was going to be about until after they got a lot of backlash. I think the actors were amazing and did their roles perfectly with what they were given,but these are people’s real life and trauma and it shouldn’t have been so sexualized and misinformed. If u want to watch a good Hollywood remake of the brothers life and trial, I highly recommend watching Law and Order True Crime: Lyle and Erik Menendez story. Also, the creator of the documentary series just released a podcast where he shares about his experience making the documentary and even shows his conversations with Erik and Lyle and they go really in depth about the murder and their lives in prison. So I highly recommend listening to that and it is called The Menendez Brothers: The Official Companion Podcast.
These 2 kids get sexually molested by their father their whole lives, kill their parents and get life in jail.
That little psycho Gypsy Rose has her mom killed, serves 7 years, gets released to a hero's welcome, and the guy who she conned into doing the killing is in jail for life.
Happy Birthday 🎂, Brett🎉. Love your content keep up with the good work.
That’s why I stopped watching these types of shows and movies and much rather watch detailed types of documentaries.
Art is emotions that had to be cramped in something other than words. No emotions = No Art
The amount of paracide sympathizers in this comment section is unreal. They were 21 and 18, had to retrieve their guns from their vehicle in the driveway, and an extra rrload trip to finish of their mom. They shouldn't be freed.
I’ve been watching way too much Brett Cooper. I can sense when the ad will pop up. (Never gonna stop watching.)
Murder is murder, and yeah, they deserve to be im jail for that,not trying to sound like some fan or whatever but they way people had been treating them, and the way that they portrayed them in the tv show.... is very, very wrong....(not talking about the actors, they did an amazing job)
I kinda made myself watch it until the end , (I heard about them already many years ago from true crime videos and such you know, so I knew about their story) so things were weird for me when I watched it, especially their relationship..... like.... was that really necessary.....
The only thing I was really sad about was the ending.. that was really sad.
Because in the other older documentary, they didn’t show that part, I think, so seeing it was really sad.
I feel sorry for them in some way, especially when people literally made fun of them back then, like, even if you don't believe that they were sexually assaulted.. why would you make fun of such a thing?...beacuse they are boys and not girls? becuase they said it *after* the murder and not before? becuase they came from a rich family?....
I mean, yeah, things were different back then, and people saw things differently than how we can see them today, but still...
The only few good things Ryan Murphy did were showing those two amazing actors and playing old and good songs from that time....
I kinda hope that that they would get out of jail in the near future..
I'm trying to watch this video and my almost 3 year old son keeps trying to say "Hi" to you 😂
This series is so distasteful. I watched a a Lifetime movie years ago about them, and somehow that was more tasteful than this show.
If you watch them testifying in their first trial, it’s obvious that the abuse happened. There is no actor out there talented enough to fake their storytelling, let alone someone who’s not even a professional actor. If my parents did that to me, I wouldn’t feel bad spending their money after their death either.
They had three years of coaching from Abramson. I'll bet you think the call Lyle placed to 911 was authentic, too.
I think they were lying.
@@katemaloney4296 no obviously not. It like is said, there aren’t any actors that good. You can have your opinion though. A lot of people agree with you…even though you’re wrong.
@@PolaBeaver A lot of people think they’re lying. That’s okay. If you have any interest at all, I really would recommend watching at least their testimony in the trial and see if you still feel the same. Or don’t watch it. It’s no skin off my back.
@@williamehlers5158 I did watch it. That's how I came to my conclusion plus other things.
Sounds like Ryan Murphy's hard drive needs a good forensic search and his house needs to be scanned for hidden rooms. Seriously fvking creepy.
They deserve prison
They deserve to go but they should be home by now. The abuse that they faced from there father was absolutely sickening and it’s something no child should have to go through
The rough greens transitions are getting so unpredictable xD
The menendes brothers are absolutely guilty
They admit they are guilty. But it could have been manslaughter instead of murder 1.
nobody's saying they are not. but.....
They killed them but they do not deserve to be in prison.
@@bubblegumgirl89 yes they do. At best this would be a revenge murder which is still 1st degree murder. Also, there's no justifying the mothers murder
Netflix should take the show off their platform and if they don't, we should all drop Netflix.
I don’t condone what they did, but I understand why they did it. I don’t necessarily think that their parents dying was wrong, if what they say is true. And he makes them out, specifically Lyle, to seem like aggressive, insensitive, cold people when that’s just not true.
Nah, you are just a scary person.
@PolaBeaver you're just a victim blamer. People who abuse kids don't deserve life. Go get yourself checked.
That's still murder though
Ryan Murphy is not a good person. I don’t understand why people haven’t realized it yet. He’s been this way for years
I always felt bad for them
Felt bad for victims, not for evil killers just saying
@@TutosHD007 the brothers were victims first just saying smh
So victims can kill because they are victims?
You do know that they were burglarizing homes and selling the furniture, right? They are not little innocent angel Aladdins.
@@wildflower815yes!
7:42 - yes, that was exactly what Ryan Murphy was doing. He took the stories of the lives of REAL PEOPLE and warped them for "dramatic effect" and "entertainment"
I remember the trial and am not yet convinced they deserve all the sympathy they are getting now. They were legal adults at the time of the murder & could have chosen to have nothing to do with their parents or pressed charges. What I recall is that after the murder they went on a spending spree, ostensibly because they were celebrating & expected a large inheritance. During the trial they would "fake cry" (no tears) & display bizarre demeanor & facial expressions. People are also trying to re-write history on the Scott Peterson trial. That is an even harder sell for me.
Thank you for saying this. Shocked most "conservatives" are choosing to #BelieveAllWomen for once???
I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. When you’re abused and fear for you life your whole life you feel like there is no escape
Also, the series doesn’t claim they’re innocent or guilt. They display the facts pretty well
Society again taking the side of the criminals instead of the victims. Most movies nowadays are empathizing with the bad guys and trying to understand them and make them relatable. Anti-hero movies like Joker, Venom, Suicide Squad, Dead Pool, and the list goes on. It used to be good vs. evil but now we try to justify evildoers. Sorry but they killed their parents in cold blood and then went on a shopping spree. They were adults and knew exactly what they were doing regardless of what their father ALLEGEDLY did to them.
Thank you for saying this!!
@@truthbomyep. Even movies geared towards children like Malificent. Evil is good and good is evil.
I’ve been waiting for this video!!!
Who are the Mendez brothers?
They killed their dad bc he sexually and emotionally abused them
They were abused by their parents and in the end they finally snapped.
They are the victims
@@cartertran270didnt they kill them? Thats still wrong.
I haven't kept up with the case, but from what I remember, the family claimed abuse by the father after the murders. Kitty, the mother, wasn't accused of abuse by the brothers but she didn't protect them.
That's what I remember was reported at the time.
What actually happened, depends on who you talk to.
@@Ultraconixno one said it wasnt
They SHOULD send him flowers. Yes they were horribly damaged by abuse, but they were GROWN adults when they murmured their parents, tried to cover it up, and went on spending sprees.
You want to get away from abuse as an adult, you cut off ties and support yourselves, you don’t commit murder and try and cover it up.
Because of Ryan Murphy they may actually be released now.
It should be illegal to make a show/movie about someone who's living without their involvement or at least express permission.
So, that nixes any unauthorized movies about current presidents and First Ladies?
I was born in 1999 I learned about this case as a teenager and I'm still following the same case as an adult. It is like a soap opera also I still believe the brothers are guilty of Cold blooded murder of our parents
These are evil kids and shouldnt never get out
womp womp womp....
I remember when this happened, amd their trial. I was ten years old. Everyone thought the brothers wete spoiled rich kids, and psychopaths. It's really tragic how the media twists the truth. I hope they get a retrial and get released.
Happy birthday brett! 🎀🙏
people can say whatever they want to. But the acting in the Monster Netflix tv series was probably the best in 20 years. Especially the father
You’re wonderful. I am confused what the headphones are for though.
They killed their parents in most horrific ways. I don’t think they should walk free anytime soon. Murder is still murder.
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happy birthday brett!! you inspire me every day with your boldness, wisdom, and kindness-thank you for being such a strong, awesome role model!
They went to prison for over 35 years they've done the time especially with the 50+defense witnesses and all the sexual abuse, I agree with going to prison but not life sentence with no chance of parole, Child kidnappers/molesters get not even 20 years absurd, and people are pressed they would get out after 35years instead of all those repeated offenders that pose the real threat to their society not these brothers. The fact the whole family stood behind the brothers and not the parents proves it wasn't made up. The people who believe they should rot in jail have only seen that show where the director hasn't even gone and talked to the brothers and not the hours upon hours of the trials (granted not everyone has the time to look thoroughly but they don't have a problem spewing hatred and nasty things to people who have, you don't know everything yet you pretend you do) People should be glad those parents aren't around anymore, Also medical records of the brothers with horrifying bowel and throat injuries and infections. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
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I'm so glad they are getting another trial. These brothers deserve to get the same justice that Gypsy Rose got at the very least.
Love you Brett!!!
Christ! That quote was something else. I guess his show Hollywood was a documentary about his own arrogance. If he wanted to do a fictionalized portrayal why not just do a fictionalized portrayal of the story. You can still put inspired by true events in front of it. It's not like he needs the name recognition.
That said I'm glad their case is getting another look. Elementary did an episode that was inspired by the Mendez brothers some years back and I looked them up after that and I thought what happened with their case was just awful. They don't deserve to be sitting in prison if their abuse can be substantiated.