Germany wants to replace Slovenias t72s and sent them to Ukraine, Rheinmetall offered the delivery of 100 Marder ifvs and 88 leopard 1a5. Germany will train Ukrainian artillery men on the Panzerhaubitze 2000.
That's not even close to cutting it close... They are sending more than half billion euros per day to Russia but some old rusted tanks will surely make up for it. It's a joke and slap in the face.
@@dirkscheidemann3127 it's just over a billion. Germany has 600k.of that and Italy has the majority of the rest. But regardless its a massive amount of money.
I was just criticizing Germany the other day for not doing enough, but this is the right thing and we need to support Germany on this. Their economy is exposed to Russia right now and they're going to need backup. We also need India to take a stronger position in this with real action and not just talking.
India massively increased the amount of oil which it buys from Russia. According to reports India bought more oil from Russia during the first two months of the war than in the entire year 2021.
Indians are being reduced to poverty under its current government. Daily survival is becoming difficult for the middle class here. Please spare us participation in a war half way across the globe.
As a Russian, I really appritiate what Germany is doing. Puting has to be stopped. This dude is a lunatic and he totally lost his mind. Because of him, I had to close my business. And I lost everything. It's hard to watch how this man is ruining my country.
The support for Ukraine from many countries is sending a message out to the aggressor that this kind of bullying and threats from the kremlin will not be tolerated!!
@@ErkaaJ You need to look at Putin and his cronies and ask them where all the money is going. Russia standard of living should be much higher but you have thieves and mobsters running your country
@@ErkaaJ Hello! Which countries financially bullied the Russian Federation from 1992 to 2014? Was Ukraine among them? And are you saying that being financially stifled is equivalent to an internecine war?
It’s good to see the Russian bluff being called. Resolve is required, not vacillation. Swiftly frustrating Russian ambitions rightly requires acknowledging that Russian threats , particularly with special weapons, is suicidal for Putler and and his ambitions. He’ll continue with this threat indefinitely, and a reminder that 4 of the 44 nations allied against Russia are nuclear armed and have vast arsenals that will impact within seconds if not minutes of a Russian weapon release. These weapons that are sold to Ukraine are clearly of little value offensively.
@@davidemmet7343 this is not enthusiasm. This is pure pragmatism. Iw we dont help ukraine you will have Russians everywhere. In politics mainly...this is much bigger.
Point is that Russia's saber rattling and threat of nuclear retaliation is like a crazy man threatening to commit suicide. He won't fire that shot unless he's prepared to die himself. Even if he uses a low grade nuke it could easily backfire killing more Russian than Ukrainian.
@@simonmeszaros2770 not really, russia wont go on a buffet invading every country. imo they are making things worse by sending more weapons. a peace agreement would have been signed in the first week of the war if all these countries didnt start their freedom garbage
Not only Gepard AA Tanks, 88 Leopard 1A5 mainbattletanks are discussed to send to ukraine. Germany will provide also ammonition for the PZH 2000 which will be send from the netherlands and also train ukrainian soldiers in Germany to use it. Germany will also build up necessary repairlogistics for ukraine. We could do much more for sure but thats the first step, I think there will be coming much more soon.
@@hugow.5973 We will always house an orphan, but do not control or direct the child's future. We will give elms to the needy, but we cannot lord over them.
Gepards and Leopards 1 ! Are you joking? What kind of circus is this? Those were phased out, they are useless!!! Imagine, 50 (that many, wow!) Leopard 1s in 3 months red tape + 6 weeks of training. Preposterous. Ukraine would be destroyed by then. If they are serious in the timeframe, at least provide the latest equipment. Training is training, at least spend time in something useful. Besides, what best way to test the weapons systems then live battlefield?
@@carlossaraiva8213 I Mean America hasn't actually directly helped Ukraine. Ohhh Yes Sanctions... that didn't slow Russia, Didn't even make them flinch. it was the Equivalent of throwing Leaves at a Tiger paper or not. it ain't gonna do anything. America Needs to Send in Tanks or atleast Humvees to the Fight.
There aren't something called ''anti-aircraft tanks''! We call them SPAAG, self-propelled anti-aircraft guns not tanks!! Another shady move from Germany, well done guys you proved to all of us you aren't trustworthy at all...
@@glenncordova4027 Actually, the minister of economy of Germany has announced today that Germanys oil imports from Russia were decreased from 35% to just 12% in the last 8 weeks. That's incredible considering how complicated energy infrastructure normally is in Germany. Also, Germany is placed #1 in Europe sending money to Ukraine and the support for Ukrainian people in Germany is enormous. (They can basically travel across the whole country for free) Please don't judge a country which has these huge responsibilities dealing with war (WWII) too early.
Guterres final words : "There are no Ukrainian troops in Russia, but there are Russian troops in Ukraine" Lavrov : "I can confirm that fact" Thank God for the UN. What would we do without them ?
Actually what Lavrov, should have said was, there are Ukrainian troops in Russia but we don't know where they are, actually there are also Russian troops in Ukraine and we don't know where they are either !!
I agree with what the commentator said, but the systems that they are getting from Germany are exactly what is needed to counter what Russia has in mind next. Those systems are meant to be an umbrella for armed conflicts of armor in open areas to defend them from air attack from helicopters and their version of the A10. They are armored and tracked to be able to travel with the armor and withstand shrapnel and small arms. They need short-range missile, and medium range missile to complete the umbrella. The long-range systems are for the protection of strategic assets. The advantage of supplying them with Soviet equipment is not so much that they are familiar with it. Javelins are not something they are familiar with nor many of the other systems. The advantage is Ukrainians can capture supplies along the way that work in the weapons they have and have instant resupply without being dependent on their own supply lines and the routes into Ukraine from supporting countries.
Agreed, with regard to the Gepard, it's not so much training crews to use them, I believe that won't take that long, the Ukrainians have shown themselves to be very adaptable, and very good at taking up new systems. More of an issue is training the maintenance crews to keep them running, that could take months. But heh.. lots of planes/missiles can be downed before major maintenance is required.
The Ukrainians should form composite AA platoons. Two Gepards and two British Stormer Starstreak vehicles. They could pair up and form two gun/missile sections. The Gepards search radar and the Stormers IADS IR search sensor would be a good combination too.
Geppards are CIWS systems on tracks . the german and dutch versions had upgrades to fire stinger missles as well. as could be plugged in to a defensive grid to protect the mid to long range airdefenses. perfect for airfields and other strategic locations.
Actually what is really needed is some way to shoot down russian missiles as the Ukrainains try to advance over the open terrain in the south and east. And unfortunatly Flak are more made to shoot down planes than miissiles.
@@DaDunge gepards are actually pretty good shotting down missiles, teaming up with manpads they'll be very helpful in air defence. And exept of mbt's they can also pretty much obliterate every ground vehicle if necessary
@@tinzi4x4 They do, but Israel's Systems are made to shoot down a handful of Low Tech Missiles - Things a Terrorist Organization has access to. Israels Systems aren't made to shoot down dozens of decent or a few High Tech Missiles - Things a militarized Nation State has Access to.
@@jaziejay1 They are only changing their tact after realising that Russia might actually lose this one, its a token gesture to curry favour as the tide turns and not be left out afterward.
🤔 Interesting take. Germany is the second biggest spender since 2014. So nothing counts unless it's military equipment, yes? And yes I know, the more pressing matter is the energy situation, but Europe is in this together, it's not just Germany which relied on Russian gas etc. Germany is the biggest money source right now, how much do you think Europe can help Ukraine when Germany becomes the sick man of Europe again like at the beginning of the 2000', how much can Europe help when more countries will have the same problem? I'm sure the other countries will help Germany and they all will help each other now to clean up the big mistake with relying on Russian energy sources and hopefully will take hits in stride.
Well, the German Gepard, the French CAESAR and the Dutch PzH2000 are the first Western real combat vehicles that were announced to be deliverd. Who else delivered state of the art heavy combat vehicles? M113s are not more than a lightly armoured battle taxi, not capable of supporting any sort of assault. So what´s the point with Germany? Yes, we were slow- this decission could have been made 5 weeks ago, when KMW offered them the first time. But now big things start to move- 88 Leopard 1 and 100 Marder are on the agenda too. Maybe this week there is another announcement. So calm down. What realy helps would be the first MBT carrying a 120mm smoothbore gun with some amount of armour. And as far this is not the case, nobody should argue against someone else! So far the only real help in the current situation comes from Poland, Czechia and Slovenia!
There aren't something called ''anti-aircraft tanks''! We call them SPAAG, self-propelled anti-aircraft guns not tanks!! Another shady move from Germany, well done guys you proved to all of us you aren't trustworthy at all...
We already knew since the war began. It's not like we didn't know: We already raised our military budget a lot and even lowered our dependency of Russian oil from 35% to 12% in just 8 weeks! We had strong relations to Russia due to bad politicians but as soon as Russia attacked, we made the U-turn. This is just a part of it.
@@richardalexandergazioch8441 Also you can do worse than made in Germany when your country's future is on the line. For many Ukrainians this will be their foirst chance at driving a Porshe, albeit not the kind they probably wanted to drive.
Germany is only doing the right thing after realising its finally in their favour. There is nothing charitable about this gesture and they want to cultivate Ukrainian resources after this conflict ends. Despicable behaviour to this point I'd say.
Hahaha Germany living in fear under US, German don't want to send anything,German just want peace no war but US give too much pressure to German ,poor German
Anti-aircraft canon tanks are considered defensive weapons by Germany and not offensive. To win any game you need defensive as well as offensive tools. My question to Germany the richest and most powerful industrialised European country when are you sending more heavier offensive weapons and more additional heavy equipment support as well. Glory to Ukraine.
@@mariojakel5544 Germany is one of the richest nations. Their standard of living is super-high. Their WW2 history is well-known. Have they learned anything from it? Bullies don't stop their imperialistic policies by "no heavy weapons" appeasement. No excuses. Germany has to do more, and they have plenty of ways to do it; domestic military industry production, finances, logistics, reducing fossil fuels usage, delaying shut-down & re-starting of decommissioned nuclear plants to reduce gas imports - it's all about political will.
Two main problems here. 1. Modern weapon systems are much more sophisticated, therefore they need much more / longer training. It makes sense to send weapon systems that are easy to learn and maybe similar or same to what is already used. 2. There are simply not enough modern heavy weapons systems to give without endangering their own defense, if uncle Wowa decides to play it really big. One reason is that right now, Germany has a quarter of its forces bound in NATO defense duties (VJTF).
Nearly nobody in europe wants germany in a leading role. It is the only way to keep europe together, if germany stays low. Yes some ppl want them to step up not only in military, but that would be contraproductive in the long run. (I am german.)
@@aurelhermand1627 Das ist jedoch nur deutsche Scham und nicht die Realität. Nachdem Russland zum aggressiven Nazistaat mutiert ist, kommen wir tatsächlich nicht umhin, unsere Rolle in dieser Konstellation zu überdenken. Die Partnerstaaten haben keine Angst vor einem neuen Nazideutschland, sie versuchen vielmehr gerade mit einem Nazirussland klarzukommen.
@@yeremyrosado5943 Russia spent most of the 20th century supporting terrorism in Greece. Under the Soviet Union, Russia sponsored wars around the world to expand communism. Greece forgot thank Russia for all the death and destruction. So sad. 😭
This should be directed at the German companies who wanted to sell and in some cases donate this equipment almost a month ago. All the German government has done is decide to stop blocking that sale!
You have truly come through for Ukraine and the world will certainly see all Germans in a whole new light. I only wish my grandparents were still alive to see and witness his miraculous transformation in history. my neuro association with Germany was a bad picture but now. from this day forth I see Germany as a beautiful work of art. well done Germany I truly salute you. Glory to Ukraine
Yey let's sing songs about Germany sending outdated equipment to Ukraine all the while they are paying half a billion euros per day for oil and gas and have not even moved a finger to find alternatives or scale down... What a joke.
@@scottmeeker9971 well... That's amazing. I'm sure Putin is trembling in his breaches. They took off multiple nuclear power plants offline so they can increase their reliance on Russian gas. Really getting that green mark... Seriously Germany is all talk and chest pounding but when the sit hits the fan...
@@showmemo3686 It easily could have been, in U.S. they treat their troops with respect. Not like the Orcs that send their troops into the meat-grinder to see what sausage they can make.
There aren't something called ''anti-aircraft tanks''! We call them SPAAG, self-propelled anti-aircraft guns not tanks!! Another shady move from Germany, well done guys you proved to all of us you aren't trustworthy at all...
Will the germans supply and keep on supplying ammo for these weapons? I have my serious doubts. Take anything said by a german politicians with salt and evaluate closely what he has said. They will deliver the weapons, but will the supply the ammo? It is not that the german government delivers these weapons, they only permitted that private companies may sell this weapon to the Ukraine. Was anything mentioned about the ammo?
For today every country weather big or small , rich or poor , believe in democracy and freedom and sovereignty. Helping Ukraine is helping yourself for the future coming
If you believe in Democracy why would you support one of the most corrupt and undemocratic countries in the world. You are literally supporting a country built on torture and coups but Hungary isn't democractic enough for you....ridiculous!
@@TheLiquidPeace Every citizen in every nation should take time to study those words and learn by heart their meaning. Next UN vote against Russia will be 180, not 141 countries against Russia.
i think Putins worst mistake is to underestimate the sheer wealth of the countries assisting ukraine,in international terms russia is a medium size average economy.
Germany sends now 88 Leopards Batttle Tanks and some Gepard Anti Aircraft Tanks, Before that they spends 1 Billion, 2nd most after the U.S. what sends France or Britain? Look on Docu Videos here on YT how much corrupion money moves from russian oligarchs into England and than you can say Germany waits to long.
No European country is free of faults. Let's stay united, even if mistakes were made in the past. But I agree, Germany unfairly bears the brunt. But that is probably because Germany has the most powerful position with its economy in Europe, no room for mistakes when you are in the limelight. But also, Germany made a big mistake with its decisions in regards to energy.
Britain has been sending anti aircraft missiles and anti tank missiles for many months. probably before Germany offered a few thousand helmets. Germany has been dragging its feet for far too long.
It's hard to defend than attacking. Targeting Russian inland arm base and destroying its ability to supply of fire arms is the most effective way to cripple Russia military power.
I agree Why is everyone giving decade old weapons to Ukrainen's to use theses tanks are century looking at photos there not even going up in the air. It's a joke that the US can sit there and say Ukrainen's are going to win the war but all countries are just dumping there junk on Ukrainen's... Why don't they just do what you're saying. It was Putin's war that invaded Ukrainen's.....
@@pa5287 only problem with that logic would be that Ukraine has no intention to harm the public (yet) and that they can probably place an attack inside a 10 meter radius... Kremlin doesn't care for ordinary people 😐
Thank you for reporting the News, WITHOUT Injecting opinion or political views. This is REAL Journalism. I WISH American mainstream "Media" would get back to this standard.
Well I would be careful with what you believe with regards to this DW report as it's no worse or better than your MSNBC channel. Rightwing followers however denounce anything American especially the news channels. I'm sorry to have to sound so negative about your innitial comment and olease don't take my answer as an attack on you personally, but rather take it with an open mind especially as I am also such an open minded Anglo/German viewer of all international news channels.
All media are liars. They are all bought and paid for by someone and their views will always respect that someone. You might not see it in this video, but I bet you anything you can watch a few dw videos and you'll eventually find a bias. Be very careful who you praise because when you find something that contradicts that opinion (which you absolutely will) you'll end up feeling used. Take EVERYTHING with a pinch of salt, trust me.
In this 21st Centrury, we = THE WOLD, should be able to protect our own citizens from an EVIL Man who craves EVIL before his own death, as in Ukraine. This WORLD s countries and states needs, basic Human Rights Leaders first, because, how else can All our countries citizens progress. May God help us see the obvious, greed, criminality, and vindictiveness which has no place among LEADERS who have an honorable duty to represent their Citizens, be they Ukrainians, Russians or World Citizens. Gloria Ukriane.
Poland, Neteherlands, United Kingdom and other countries send tanks one week earlier than Germany and when Germany sends weapons (one week later), some people think it is to late?!
@@christophermichaelclarence6003 look up how much Macron sold to Russia after 2014, shocking ! Now the USA stops France's jet being sold by withholding jet parts because of sales to Egypt etc. I'm not American btw.
@@Tina.Di.Napoli You mean Marine le Pen. She doesn't like the immigrants. She was voted 42% My little Brother and I voted Macron for the sake of France and Europe. And for the Democracy. Voted 58% 🇪🇺🇫🇷🇩🇪🇮🇹🇱🇺🇧🇪🇳🇱
Yes! Finally!!! Keep giving them bigger, and more mobile, weapons, so that the Ukrainians can push the Russians out of their country, and liberate both the Donetsk, and the Crimea, from Russian Occupation.
if there was some way to get paid to be ignorant, you would be a millionaire. Mostly Ethic Russians live on those lands for generations. they rejected the government that took over after 2014 coup. So how would Ukraine be liberating Crimea and Donbas?
This is good, I'm glad there is a concerted effort to provide systems and training to best effect for Ukraine, especially as their needs shift over time. I'm still concerned about getting the logistics squared in Ukraine for these shipments. Hopefully there is organizing support we can offer along with the weapons and supplies. If these things are sitting in warehouses then they are less than useless.
These will be bombed the instant they are deployed or maybe even before. Like everything else that has been sent, it’s merely a token gesture to give the appearance of support.
This is not good this is very bad. Sending high end weapons and nato troops into Ukraine to train what you think will happen if they get killed? A long with pulling off sanctions will not be eased no matter what Putin does by Boris. When you take away all avenues to save face and you leave him no options what you think he will do. Peace talks should be going in from every member of the UN and NATO or give zelensky more power to negotiate. Keeping a war going only benefits Raytheon and Boeing. Along with the government share holders.
@@ThomasTomiczek I don’t think many of these 🐑 realise how much ammo and weapons are required to fight a war. As an example The US main supplier failed to fulfil an order of ammunition from the US for Ukraine by 1.2billion bullets. They simply cannot make them quick enough. On the other hand Russia is producing millions of bullets per day from each of its factories. 🧐
Ah, your proper Ambassador in Germany, who is constantly bashing and insulting us will for sure complain for this is too little, too late, too old and wrong colour.
Yes please give them all the weapons they ask for even plead for their people's lives . Much more main battle tanks , mobile artillery , aircraft , fuel, ammo
Think we should do the same thing.. Give Ukraine all the tools to defeat Russia so they stop the aggression. Russia is not going to stop with Ukraine they will pause there but in a couple of years they will try to take additional Territory. Russia wants all the Territory they had when they were the Soviet Union.
As long as Putin is alive. He's already 70. They need special forces within Russia to take him out like US special forces took out bin Laden. The only way... new regime.
Please, speak of Putin and his authoritarian toxic masculine mafia gang. Nobody gains something, if we establish a "us vs. them" mentality regarding the russian people. They are essentially in an abusive relationship to Putin and heavily brainwashed. And it's of course by far not all of them. Large parts are against this war, but aren't allowed to speak up.
that's right, the tools may seem expensive but they're actually cheap compared to the damage they do. It's actually much easier and cheaper fighting Russia via proxy than doing it with our own blood. Send Ukraine all the help they need. They'll be closer allies after and they'll repay the favor. We can't let Russia continue to bully the world. It has to stop in Ukraine.
Not really, unless you have seen some unfounded speculations. One might not agree with what they have agreed to deliver. But what they actually agreed on is on it's way or has been delivered. Some equipment, like those Gepards, are not available instantly though. Everything is checked and serviced as needed before it is sent over. An this is a good thing. Some of the older gear has been decommissioned for decades. They had to throw away half or so of the Strelas for example because they turned out to be to dangerous to be used. Since Ukrainians have been injured by exploding rockets sent by other countries, that is probably a good idea. ^^
True, Germany makes good sounds but does not deliver for an age. Remember that 10 years ago they promised they would increase GDP spending on military to 2.0 GDP but didn't and were actually reducing it to 1.35 GDP.
Great meeting, now Finland and Sweden have no reason to fear joining NATO! We are all together in this, whatever happens, will happen to everyone. It is forbidden to return to the days of fear of the Soviet state! Slava Ukraine, Slava NATO, Slava for the whole West!
In dense terrain and cityfighting yes but the problem is eastern and southern Ukraine is open terrain where the Russian tanks, and modern missile systems have the advantage.
Yes, Russia promised in 1994 to never attack Ukraine if it gave up its nuclear weapons Ukraine, Russia, the U.S. and the UK signed a 1994 treaty that assured Ukraine it would be safe from attack as long as it gave up its massive stockpile of nukes.
You know Nukes in Ukraine is Russian Nukes from Soviet era... What happen in 2014.. And why Ukraine bombed pro-russian civils in Donbass for 8 year... Find out this.
German companies wanted to sell and in some cases donate this equipment almost a month ago. All the German government has done is decide to stop blocking that!
@@tirpi8830 US and UK donated a lot of weapons and military equipment so far, US donated over one billion$, by now Germany one of the biggest economies didnt donate any weapons (exact for 500 barely useable missiles) even tho they announced loudly they will and until now were blocking Ukraine from buying military equipment from Germany but if I don’t see those tanks in Ukraine I don’t believe double faced Germany. Much poorer countries did more for Ukraine than Germany and everything because Germans don’t want to make Putin angry cause after war they plan to go straight away to business as usual with Russia.
Those Gepards are probably the best thing Ukraine could get at this point! Short range AA, but also excellent at chewing up anything on the ground. Fast moving, then BRRRRT everything!
This will be hilarious. Nah, that won't push thru. Russia just cut off the gas to Poland, I bet Germany will quickly have second thoughts. Russia is spanking back now
@@hugow.5973 Well that is because of poor training, if there were American tankers operating those T-72 it would have ended up differently /s (actually half sarcastic but still)
Well Russia you got an unexpected fight ahead . Zelensky is short in stature but, big in heart . These ally country dropping serious investments in Ukraine . Although the departed people can’t be brought back . Ukraine will be bigger and better when all this is over despite Putin stance.
I play the Gepard in War thunder, and I will just say that it is probably my favorite Anti aircraft vehicle I've played... it is badass in it's abilities and it is capable of killing not just aircraft but also light and some medium tanks.
best learn to love extreme WAR ... These new German weapons and Canadian Artillery are not going to Poland , but to Romania ......seems Nato is loading up weapons in Romania and put troops in Moldova( second front)
@@vivekprasad3831 compare the life of the average american/European to the average Afghan and tell me who won the war🤣 funny how the Taliban went out of hiding the second Nato left, its almost like they were scared to come out before, i wonder why🤣
Not supplying heavy arms because of training issues should really be a non-excuse for helping, the UA military are VERY quick learners and inspiringly resourceful and cunning. Give them some AAA and a sheet of translated instructions and they'll have them suckers up and running and 'decommissioning' Russian Sukhoi within a week! - Slava Ukraini - Слава Україні!
Treu the Geppard /cheeta aa tanks are imense complex and maintenance cost are sky high . one of the reasons peru send back the ones they bought from the netherlands .
@@marcusfranconium3392 At this point long term running costs are not really the aim of the Ukraine army as they are likely to rather run such expensive high maintenance equipment into the ground and leave it there while waiting on something more viable. Their ability to maintain equipment is taxed as it is with bombings of many major repair facilities across Ukraine so repairing old equipment would end up being a burden.
wonderful, ukraine will be a dumping ground for everyone's obsolete military hardware that barely works and can't be used because ukrainians don't have training for them.
Putin needs to lower his fist when his anger rises. He needs to lower his anger when his fists rise. Otherwise the Russia he knows will no longer exist.
Lavrov: There is a real Danger of a Nuclear War Germany: Ok, We will now send Tanks instead of defensive Weapons. This Comical Ali is really the best support for Ukraine.
This will be hilarious. Nah, that won't push thru. Russia just cut off the gas to Poland, I bet Germany will quickly have second thoughts. Russia is spanking back now
T72tank and Rus attack helicoper can be easily destroyed by Germany Antitank heavy weapons. Most expensive weapons from Germany. Exactly needed from Brave Ukraine 🇺🇦 🙏 ❤ Thanks for Germany 🇩🇪 🙏 😀 🙌 😘
You guys are saying that since Russia invaded, and yet you are loosing ground every day. I mean cmon guys, with amount of weapons you received so far from all over the world you should be at Moscow already.
The billions held in the world banks should be handed over to Ukraine as restitution for the civilians who have lost home from the criminal and blatant attach on their homes/country. Under the same rules Germany had to pay . Russia or any country invading another country sovereign state must be held accountable. To the point no one will think about it going forward.
ye an absulute waste of time considering even if russia withdraws they have no contry to come back to ahhahahahhahah THERE ARE NO MONEY... NONE WHAT SO EVER AHAHHAHAHAHAA
why do people always call communist fascist? I never gonne understand this. One of the reasons Russia invaded Ukraine was to decimate the faschist bataljon of Azov.
On that last sentence: nobody is expecting the German government to actively support Ukraine. They've made their position/allegiance very clear by now.. But if allied pressure can get them to stop blocking weapon supplies by others, commercial or national. By refusing to issue export licences, even on equipment that's been owned by other nations for decades already, that would mean the world!
I think it was Switzerland blocking ammo delivery for ammunition that goes to equipment that they had wanted to transfer, so not really Germany's fault on that one..
Nonsense, everyone else at that conference is expecting Germany to support Ukraine, and no they haven’t made their position at all clear. Likely different politicians have different positions. Some one is clogging the wheels, but it isn’t clear who it is and what hold they have.
Thank you for your continuing very good reporting on the Russo-Ukrainian war. I really benefit from your perspectives. Interesting to hear Western but non-American reportage.
A Russian "victory" at this stage of the war is a complete withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine. Everyday they let this war drag on for themselves is a day they grow weaker militarily. I'd like to think that Putin is smarter than he is currently displaying ~ time will tell.
This is not enough. Ukraine needs more real battle tanks, artillery, and fighter jets. The training for that equipment should start now since the stock of soviet weaponry is limited. Germany is still very hesitant to do that, while it's not hesitant to pay 700 million dollars every day to russia for the gas.
It is high time that Germany finally committed to defending the free and democratic world and our Western civilization, which is based on freedom, democracy, liberalism and respect for human rights. So far, Germany has played a 'neutral' role (to put it VERY diplomatically), even though the Ukrainians are also fighting for their freedom.
I found it useful when nations were congratulating themselves on providing so many 100s of millions of dollars in military aid or that the USA has provided over $3BN so far when a USA General pointed out that in the Afghan campaign the USA were spending by the end $9 Billion a month every month just in Afghanistan and the USA were in Afghanistan for 22 years. War is expensive, what the allies have provided so far in 2 months basically amounts to international pocket change (a single javelin hand held fired missile costs $100,000). What the Ukranians have managed to do with it so far is unbelievable, to beat back one of the largest militaries in the world. The allies are fighting Russia via Ukraine and not using troops because it is better to spend money now rather than blood later. The trouble is the amounts involved are really very small and the self governed limitations on types of weaponry seems to be controlled by lawyers and not military experts.
Why not use the money to settle for peace. Reconstruct the country instead of fueling the war. The decision made by the Ukraine president and the west, is to drag us all into a nuclear holocaust. And Russia is figthing for its survival from the West political anti Russian rant.
We were paying for fighters, food and transportation ect. Obviously, we don't have fighters in Ukraine. Why don't you tell us what your country has EVER done for others and I'll compare US's. Effen NOTHING!!! We knew the answer.
Don't be so sure. Russia used the comparable Shilka SPAAG to devastating effect in Chechnya, often obliterating ATGM teams before they could launch their missiles. It played a decisive role in the Battle of Grozny, where tank cannons lacked the elevation to target enemy combatants on rooftops.
They don't need tanks, they need heavy artillery, drones and cruise missiles to take out the russian cruise missile launchers on Crimea. They badly need to increase the logistics capability, they need thousands of trucks, trucks are more valuable than tanks.
It's a good start....and better late than never...... it would have been very unfortunate for the Germans if they were on the wrong side of History yet again.
There are only a handful of really old people left alive in Germany who stood on the wrong side in WWII. Why are you throwing all Germans under 80 into the same pot with them? They didn't commit crimes against humanity between 33-45, they weren't even born then. They were never on the "wrong side of history". Germans can't choose in which country they are born, young people in Germany are not responsible for the atrocities that their ancestors did. Please be fair towards the generations born after WWII in Germany.
Mr. Scholz should step aside if he's not able to go ahead. All the MPs from SPD who dream about re-establishing trades with russia after the war may also step aside.
Germany has given Ukraine €7.715 Billion of financial aid in total since 2014 and thus is one of the most helpful countries - financially. That shows that - even though it wasn't weapons - Germany tried to help Ukraine as much as it could. This step now is even more incredible as Germans are really careful with sending weapons to countries in war since they had special responsibilities due to WWII.
@@brushstroke7190 Well, Germany by far wasn't the only country dependent of Russia and almost nobody besides the US did a lot against Russia compared to nowadays. However, Germany had a dependency of Russian oil of 35% 8 weeks ago (so yes, they gave them a lot of money) and lowered that dependency to just 12% in the last 8 weeks, so I guess you could say that as soon as Russia attacked, Germany tried its best to stop giving Russia money.
@@unweeked They're still providing Rusisa with more money than they are Ukraine. How about simply taxing Russian gas, for every euro sent to Russia for gas 1 europe is spent on some kind of help for Ukraine.
Good to see the Germans are delivering something, some 155mm artillery and leopard tanks wouldn't go amiss.
Germany wants to replace Slovenias t72s and sent them to Ukraine, Rheinmetall offered the delivery of 100 Marder ifvs and 88 leopard 1a5. Germany will train Ukrainian artillery men on the Panzerhaubitze 2000.
That's not even close to cutting it close... They are sending more than half billion euros per day to Russia but some old rusted tanks will surely make up for it. It's a joke and slap in the face.
@@BRR999 ok
@@BRR999 The half billion is for the whole of EU, not Germany alone
@@dirkscheidemann3127 it's just over a billion. Germany has 600k.of that and Italy has the majority of the rest. But regardless its a massive amount of money.
I was just criticizing Germany the other day for not doing enough, but this is the right thing and we need to support Germany on this. Their economy is exposed to Russia right now and they're going to need backup. We also need India to take a stronger position in this with real action and not just talking.
Thank you for your Statement, may I ask where you are coming from?
India massively increased the amount of oil which it buys from Russia.
According to reports India bought more oil from Russia during the first two months of the war than in the entire year 2021.
@@HingerlAlois well, I am not going to judge India because I am not familiar with their economical Situation.
@@HingerlAlois When other nations stop buying oil, India gets it for a cheaper price.
Indians are being reduced to poverty under its current government. Daily survival is becoming difficult for the middle class here. Please spare us participation in a war half way across the globe.
As a Russian, I really appritiate what Germany is doing. Puting has to be stopped. This dude is a lunatic and he totally lost his mind. Because of him, I had to close my business. And I lost everything.
It's hard to watch how this man is ruining my country.
So sorry to hear that.Putin has milked Russia.
MY 100% RESPECT FOR SPEAKING OUT AGAINST VLADOLF PUTLER!!!
I respect to you for your comments. I wish you all the best, from Scotland
The Gepard is build to fight Migs/SUs and other russian aircraft. So this is a perfect fit for Ukraines forces to clear the skies of them Orks.
Never heard of them before today, but they do sound like exactly the kind of thing Ukraine could use. Well done Germany (better late than never).
they're only effective at low altitude air defense against helicopters and maybe ground attack planes. Russia is doing high altitude bombing now.
Plus, lots of dakka is always good
They are old and outdated, they just cleaning the basement
if that's what Germany are giving them, then its going to be a game changer for Ukraine.
The support for Ukraine from many countries is sending a message out to the aggressor that this kind of bullying and threats from the kremlin will not be tolerated!!
But financial bullying an already bankrupt nation for 30 years is fine
Western powers are waging war on Russia for decades Wendy, but you are not affected by it so you have no idea how hard life in Russia is.
@@ErkaaJ You need to look at Putin and his cronies and ask them where all the money is going. Russia standard of living should be much higher but you have thieves and mobsters running your country
@@ErkaaJ Government of this " bullied " country in last 30 years murdered over 300 thousands of people.
@@ErkaaJ Hello! Which countries financially bullied the Russian Federation from 1992 to 2014? Was Ukraine among them? And are you saying that being financially stifled is equivalent to an internecine war?
It’s good to see the Russian bluff being called. Resolve is required, not vacillation. Swiftly frustrating Russian ambitions rightly requires acknowledging that Russian threats , particularly with special weapons, is suicidal for Putler and and his ambitions. He’ll continue with this threat indefinitely, and a reminder that 4 of the 44 nations allied against Russia are nuclear armed and have vast arsenals that will impact within seconds if not minutes of a Russian weapon release.
These weapons that are sold to Ukraine are clearly of little value offensively.
Read accounts of people in Europe just before WW1m, they were very enthusiastic about the idea of a war also.
@@davidemmet7343 this is not enthusiasm. This is pure pragmatism. Iw we dont help ukraine you will have Russians everywhere. In politics mainly...this is much bigger.
Point is that Russia's saber rattling and threat of nuclear retaliation is like a crazy man threatening to commit suicide. He won't fire that shot unless he's prepared to die himself. Even if he uses a low grade nuke it could easily backfire killing more Russian than Ukrainian.
@@simonmeszaros2770 not really, russia wont go on a buffet invading every country. imo they are making things worse by sending more weapons. a peace agreement would have been signed in the first week of the war if all these countries didnt start their freedom garbage
We dont truly know what is going on in the mind of Putin....!!!!!!!
Not only Gepard AA Tanks, 88 Leopard 1A5 mainbattletanks are discussed to send to ukraine. Germany will provide also ammonition for the PZH 2000 which will be send from the netherlands and also train ukrainian soldiers in Germany to use it. Germany will also build up necessary repairlogistics for ukraine. We could do much more for sure but thats the first step, I think there will be coming much more soon.
Strange that you write Germany with the capital letter but Ukraine with small.
@@hugow.5973
We will always house an orphan, but do not control or direct the child's future. We will give elms to the needy, but we cannot lord over them.
Gepards and Leopards 1 ! Are you joking? What kind of circus is this? Those were phased out, they are useless!!!
Imagine, 50 (that many, wow!) Leopard 1s in 3 months red tape + 6 weeks of training. Preposterous. Ukraine would be destroyed by then.
If they are serious in the timeframe, at least provide the latest equipment. Training is training, at least spend time in something useful.
Besides, what best way to test the weapons systems then live battlefield?
Would you want to go into war with an obsolete tank that's main gun can't penetrate a T72?
@@lubitelklassnihklipov3486 Why not?
I like this Tomas Wiegold. He seems to give it to us straight, no bull behind it
Germany, all talk - no action. "Here's a few helmets, Ukraine"🤮
@@Ачёт_Аму_Хахлоф you speaking about Putin?
German style 😂
@@carlossaraiva8213 I'm speaking about Germany, they are helping putin by prolonging this war🤮
@@carlossaraiva8213 I Mean America hasn't actually directly helped Ukraine. Ohhh Yes Sanctions... that didn't slow Russia, Didn't even make them flinch. it was the Equivalent of throwing Leaves at a Tiger paper or not. it ain't gonna do anything. America Needs to Send in Tanks or atleast Humvees to the Fight.
Well done Germany 🇩🇪 👏
You did the right thing.💓
After you have tried everything else and failed, then you are eventually forced to do the right thing. LOL
Not enough. Stop buying Russian gas and funding this war.
There aren't something called ''anti-aircraft tanks''! We call them SPAAG, self-propelled anti-aircraft guns not tanks!! Another shady move from Germany, well done guys you proved to all of us you aren't trustworthy at all...
@@glenncordova4027 Germany will always be a disgrace.😉
@@glenncordova4027 Actually, the minister of economy of Germany has announced today that Germanys oil imports from Russia were decreased from 35% to just 12% in the last 8 weeks.
That's incredible considering how complicated energy infrastructure normally is in Germany.
Also, Germany is placed #1 in Europe sending money to Ukraine and the support for Ukrainian people in Germany is enormous.
(They can basically travel across the whole country for free)
Please don't judge a country which has these huge responsibilities dealing with war (WWII) too early.
Guterres final words : "There are no Ukrainian troops in Russia,
but there are Russian troops in Ukraine"
Lavrov : "I can confirm that fact"
Thank God for the UN. What would we do without them ?
Agreed. The UN is the most useless organization on the planet.
This obvious fact is one that Russia wants the world to ignore. So it has to be stated like this.
Nice and simple for everyone to understand
Actually what Lavrov, should have said was, there are Ukrainian troops in Russia but we don't know where they are, actually there are also Russian troops in Ukraine and we don't know where they are either !!
lavrov reminds me of baghdad bob. we can call him lapdog lavrov
I agree with what the commentator said, but the systems that they are getting from Germany are exactly what is needed to counter what Russia has in mind next. Those systems are meant to be an umbrella for armed conflicts of armor in open areas to defend them from air attack from helicopters and their version of the A10. They are armored and tracked to be able to travel with the armor and withstand shrapnel and small arms. They need short-range missile, and medium range missile to complete the umbrella. The long-range systems are for the protection of strategic assets. The advantage of supplying them with Soviet equipment is not so much that they are familiar with it. Javelins are not something they are familiar with nor many of the other systems. The advantage is Ukrainians can capture supplies along the way that work in the weapons they have and have instant resupply without being dependent on their own supply lines and the routes into Ukraine from supporting countries.
Agreed, with regard to the Gepard, it's not so much training crews to use them, I believe that won't take that long, the Ukrainians have shown themselves to be very adaptable, and very good at taking up new systems. More of an issue is training the maintenance crews to keep them running, that could take months. But heh.. lots of planes/missiles can be downed before major maintenance is required.
The Ukrainians should form composite AA platoons. Two Gepards and two British Stormer Starstreak vehicles. They could pair up and form two gun/missile sections.
The Gepards search radar and the Stormers IADS IR search sensor would be a good combination too.
What does Russia have in mind next?
Geppards are CIWS systems on tracks . the german and dutch versions had upgrades to fire stinger missles as well. as could be plugged in to a defensive grid to protect the mid to long range airdefenses. perfect for airfields and other strategic locations.
@@rippenburn EAT DIRT?
It is a step in the right direction, but of course longer range air defense and artillery are needed as well.
Actually what is really needed is some way to shoot down russian missiles as the Ukrainains try to advance over the open terrain in the south and east. And unfortunatly Flak are more made to shoot down planes than miissiles.
@@DaDunge Well, Israel has some good systems that are capable to shoot missiles out of the skies.
@@DaDunge gepards are actually pretty good shotting down missiles, teaming up with manpads they'll be very helpful in air defence. And exept of mbt's they can also pretty much obliterate every ground vehicle if necessary
@@tinzi4x4 They do, but Israel's Systems are made to shoot down a handful of Low Tech Missiles - Things a Terrorist Organization has access to. Israels Systems aren't made to shoot down dozens of decent or a few High Tech Missiles - Things a militarized Nation State has Access to.
@@Jflonsn I stand corrected.
Finally Germany is doing something in a timely manner without hedging as is the past norm.
Yes it is only a week after UK so i agree much faster
@@jaziejay1 They are only changing their tact after realising that Russia might actually lose this one, its a token gesture to curry favour as the tide turns and not be left out afterward.
Until they change their minds again
Maybe if their Chancellor doesn't duck them again.
🤔 Interesting take. Germany is the second biggest spender since 2014. So nothing counts unless it's military equipment, yes?
And yes I know, the more pressing matter is the energy situation, but Europe is in this together, it's not just Germany which relied on Russian gas etc.
Germany is the biggest money source right now, how much do you think Europe can help Ukraine when Germany becomes the sick man of Europe again like at the beginning of the 2000', how much can Europe help when more countries will have the same problem? I'm sure the other countries will help Germany and they all will help each other now to clean up the big mistake with relying on Russian energy sources and hopefully will take hits in stride.
I'm sure they are already being trained up on Western systems. They'll just not be saying anything about it until they arrive.
It is about time Germany shows some courage and understands how dangerous the threat of Russia truly is. Slava Ukraini!
Lol you think this is a Hollywood movie
Well, the German Gepard, the French CAESAR and the Dutch PzH2000 are the first Western real combat vehicles that were announced to be deliverd. Who else delivered state of the art heavy combat vehicles? M113s are not more than a lightly armoured battle taxi, not capable of supporting any sort of assault. So what´s the point with Germany?
Yes, we were slow- this decission could have been made 5 weeks ago, when KMW offered them the first time. But now big things start to move- 88 Leopard 1 and 100 Marder are on the agenda too. Maybe this week there is another announcement. So calm down.
What realy helps would be the first MBT carrying a 120mm smoothbore gun with some amount of armour. And as far this is not the case, nobody should argue against someone else! So far the only real help in the current situation comes from Poland, Czechia and Slovenia!
There aren't something called ''anti-aircraft tanks''! We call them SPAAG, self-propelled anti-aircraft guns not tanks!! Another shady move from Germany, well done guys you proved to all of us you aren't trustworthy at all...
@Exotictropiczinterfere make situation bad to worse.
We already knew since the war began. It's not like we didn't know: We already raised our military budget a lot and even lowered our dependency of Russian oil from 35% to 12% in just 8 weeks!
We had strong relations to Russia due to bad politicians but as soon as Russia attacked, we made the U-turn.
This is just a part of it.
Ukrainians learn very quickly on these type systems ... Thanks Germany !
Yep they are incredible smart and resourceful
It will be Gepard anti-aircraft tanks and Leopard 1 tanks... both were build to fight russian Systems... they'll be pretty useful
Unfortunatly Flak is built to shoot down planes and the Russians have a lot of missiles.
@@richardalexandergazioch8441 Also you can do worse than made in Germany when your country's future is on the line. For many Ukrainians this will be their foirst chance at driving a Porshe, albeit not the kind they probably wanted to drive.
@@DaDunge Porsche...:)
Thank you Germany who is not living in fear and for doing the right thing. God is with the good ones.
God is within all people giving them life bringing forth both the good and evil.
Ww3
Yeah, nuclear war ain't gonna be that bad.
Germany is only doing the right thing after realising its finally in their favour. There is nothing charitable about this gesture and they want to cultivate Ukrainian resources after this conflict ends. Despicable behaviour to this point I'd say.
Hahaha Germany living in fear under US, German don't want to send anything,German just want peace no war but US give too much pressure to German ,poor German
Anti-aircraft canon tanks are considered defensive weapons by Germany and not offensive. To win any game you need defensive as well as offensive tools. My question to Germany the richest and most powerful industrialised European country when are you sending more heavier offensive weapons and more additional heavy equipment support as well. Glory to Ukraine.
Most nations are reluctant to send offensive weapons really. Javelin and NLAW are considered defensive for example.
take it this way swiss has more Tanks as germany in service and the netherlands has a bigger Navy as Germany
@@mariojakel5544 Germany is one of the richest nations. Their standard of living is super-high.
Their WW2 history is well-known. Have they learned anything from it? Bullies don't stop their imperialistic policies by "no heavy weapons" appeasement.
No excuses. Germany has to do more, and they have plenty of ways to do it; domestic military industry production, finances, logistics, reducing fossil fuels usage, delaying shut-down & re-starting of decommissioned nuclear plants to reduce gas imports - it's all about political will.
Two main problems here.
1. Modern weapon systems are much more sophisticated, therefore they need much more / longer training. It makes sense to send weapon systems that are easy to learn and maybe similar or same to what is already used.
2. There are simply not enough modern heavy weapons systems to give without endangering their own defense, if uncle Wowa decides to play it really big. One reason is that right now, Germany has a quarter of its forces bound in NATO defense duties (VJTF).
Germany makes a mistake by being so passive, Europe needs its leadership.
Nearly nobody in europe wants germany in a leading role. It is the only way to keep europe together, if germany stays low. Yes some ppl want them to step up not only in military, but that would be contraproductive in the long run. (I am german.)
@@aurelhermand1627 What nonsense are you talking about.
@@marcoa.2483 ww3 I think...
@@aurelhermand1627 Das ist jedoch nur deutsche Scham und nicht die Realität. Nachdem Russland zum aggressiven Nazistaat mutiert ist, kommen wir tatsächlich nicht umhin, unsere Rolle in dieser Konstellation zu überdenken. Die Partnerstaaten haben keine Angst vor einem neuen Nazideutschland, sie versuchen vielmehr gerade mit einem Nazirussland klarzukommen.
That is not true!
Well done Germany. We need to further support Ukraine. Greetings from Greece!
"We Need" to cease fire and sit down and arrange a just peace!
@@yeremyrosado5943 Russia spent most of the 20th century supporting terrorism in Greece. Under the Soviet Union, Russia sponsored wars around the world to expand communism. Greece forgot thank Russia for all the death and destruction. So sad. 😭
@@yeremyrosado5943 He's not blind to the devastation and misery that Russia is causing Ukraine. Nothing excuses that evil.
@@josephshields2922 Putin doesn't want peace.
@Andrews Michalakis
Du hast nicht mehr alle Latten am Zaun!
I play War Thunder and I can confirm that Gepards are scary
Well Done Germany, Well done. keep up the good work.
This should be directed at the German companies who wanted to sell and in some cases donate this equipment almost a month ago. All the German government has done is decide to stop blocking that sale!
You have truly come through for Ukraine and the world will certainly see all Germans in a whole new light.
I only wish my grandparents were still alive to see and witness his miraculous transformation in history.
my neuro association with Germany was a bad picture but now. from this day forth I see Germany as a beautiful work of art.
well done Germany I truly salute you. Glory to Ukraine
Yey let's sing songs about Germany sending outdated equipment to Ukraine all the while they are paying half a billion euros per day for oil and gas and have not even moved a finger to find alternatives or scale down... What a joke.
@@BRR999 Now hold on, where are you from? Germany is ahead of most countries when it comes to using solar and wind energy.
@@scottmeeker9971 well... That's amazing. I'm sure Putin is trembling in his breaches. They took off multiple nuclear power plants offline so they can increase their reliance on Russian gas. Really getting that green mark... Seriously Germany is all talk and chest pounding but when the sit hits the fan...
I love the handshake and hugs between Mr. Austin and the MP''s.
Those guys are bro's.
American Life style
I don't think those were MPs. More like a high ranking welcoming committee.
@@showmemo3686 It easily could have been, in U.S. they treat their troops with respect. Not like the Orcs that send their troops into the meat-grinder to see what sausage they can make.
Wow, Germany. Geat moves. Keep it up. Proud of you.
There aren't something called ''anti-aircraft tanks''! We call them SPAAG, self-propelled anti-aircraft guns not tanks!! Another shady move from Germany, well done guys you proved to all of us you aren't trustworthy at all...
@@bigbasil1908 They aren’t arming the Russians so nope.
@@bigbasil1908 Komunistnatsis pl0x
Big Basil calm down Boris!
Will the germans supply and keep on supplying ammo for these weapons? I have my serious doubts. Take anything said by a german politicians with salt and evaluate closely what he has said. They will deliver the weapons, but will the supply the ammo? It is not that the german government delivers these weapons, they only permitted that private companies may sell this weapon to the Ukraine. Was anything mentioned about the ammo?
For today every country weather big or small , rich or poor , believe in democracy and freedom and sovereignty.
Helping Ukraine is helping yourself for the future coming
Just like way back in WW2. Saving Europe is the future
If you believe in Democracy why would you support one of the most corrupt and undemocratic countries in the world. You are literally supporting a country built on torture and coups but Hungary isn't democractic enough for you....ridiculous!
LMAO, you may want to take some time & study those big meaningless words: "democracy and freedom and sovereignty"
@@TheLiquidPeace Every citizen in every nation should take time to study those words and learn by heart their meaning.
Next UN vote against Russia will be 180, not 141 countries against Russia.
Yes, I just wish Germany and France were not a bunch of cowards. They learned nothing from WW2.
i think Putins worst mistake is to underestimate the sheer wealth of the countries assisting ukraine,in international terms russia is a medium size average economy.
Germany sends now 88 Leopards Batttle Tanks and some Gepard Anti Aircraft Tanks, Before that they spends 1 Billion, 2nd most after the U.S. what sends France or Britain? Look on Docu Videos here on YT how much corrupion money moves from russian oligarchs into England and than you can say Germany waits to long.
No European country is free of faults. Let's stay united, even if mistakes were made in the past. But I agree, Germany unfairly bears the brunt. But that is probably because Germany has the most powerful position with its economy in Europe, no room for mistakes when you are in the limelight. But also, Germany made a big mistake with its decisions in regards to energy.
These are Leopard 1A5s (upgraded 60s tanks), better than nothing but Ukraine would be better off receiving T72s from ex-soviet countries.
Britain has been sending anti aircraft missiles and anti tank missiles for many months. probably before Germany offered a few thousand helmets. Germany has been dragging its feet for far too long.
NLAWS from England are already being used at the front
Look at the UK sanctions on all things Russian. All their funds are blocked and frozen.
Love the statement that Ukraine will exist much longer than Putin.
AMEN! SLAVA UKRAINI FROM GERMANY!!!
It's hard to defend than attacking. Targeting Russian inland arm base and destroying its ability to supply of fire arms is the most effective way to cripple Russia military power.
I agree
Why is everyone giving decade old weapons to Ukrainen's to use theses tanks are century looking at photos there not even going up in the air.
It's a joke that the US can sit there and say Ukrainen's are going to win the war but all countries are just dumping there junk on Ukrainen's...
Why don't they just do what you're saying. It was Putin's war that invaded Ukrainen's.....
@Richard Williams ukraine has the right to hit targets in russia let russia have a taste of misery.
You're confused its easier to defend rather than to attack .
if we did that than is all or nothing for Russia, and we all know how that's likely to play out.
@@pa5287 only problem with that logic would be that Ukraine has no intention to harm the public (yet) and that they can probably place an attack inside a 10 meter radius... Kremlin doesn't care for ordinary people 😐
Thank you for reporting the News, WITHOUT Injecting opinion or political views. This is REAL Journalism. I WISH American mainstream "Media" would get back to this standard.
Agreed!
REAL journalism is not saying for howitzer a tank.
@@januszkowalski8904 it's almost like how you MEANT to say "ACCURATE" instead ot "REAL." ...
Well I would be careful with what you believe with regards to this DW report as it's no worse or better than your MSNBC channel. Rightwing followers however denounce anything American especially the news channels.
I'm sorry to have to sound so negative about your innitial comment and olease don't take my answer as an attack on you personally, but rather take it with an open mind especially as I am also such an open minded Anglo/German viewer of all international news channels.
All media are liars. They are all bought and paid for by someone and their views will always respect that someone. You might not see it in this video, but I bet you anything you can watch a few dw videos and you'll eventually find a bias. Be very careful who you praise because when you find something that contradicts that opinion (which you absolutely will) you'll end up feeling used.
Take EVERYTHING with a pinch of salt, trust me.
🇺🇦🙏 Glory to Ukraine 🙏🇺🇦
In this 21st Centrury, we = THE WOLD, should be able to protect our own citizens from an EVIL Man who craves EVIL before his own death, as in Ukraine. This WORLD s countries and states needs, basic Human Rights Leaders first, because, how else can All our countries citizens progress. May God help us see the obvious, greed, criminality, and vindictiveness which has no place among LEADERS who have an honorable duty to represent their Citizens, be they Ukrainians, Russians or World Citizens. Gloria Ukriane.
For what it’s worth, DW is such a refreshing change from the American media outlets. No drama, no theatre, no bias. Just what’s going on.
Poland, Neteherlands, United Kingdom and other countries send tanks one week earlier than Germany and when Germany sends weapons (one week later), some people think it is to late?!
Artillery is not a tank. Which country is sending western tanks?
@@Chaezaa slovenia for example, but not western tanks
@@Ghreinos Slovenia is sending them because they will get western tanks as compensation.
@@Chaezaa Yeah, but how does it matter in the context of my comment?
@@Ghreinos as far as I know Slovenia is doing a "Ringtausch", meaning Germany gives them new tanks if they deliver their old tanks to the Ukraine...
Glory to Ukraine!
🇺🇲🇬🇧🇩🇪🇺🇦💚✌️
Hey Where's my country France ? 🇫🇷😠
And what about Poland 🇵🇱 ?
@@christophermichaelclarence6003 look up how much Macron sold to Russia after 2014, shocking !
Now the USA stops France's jet being sold by withholding jet parts because of sales to Egypt etc.
I'm not American btw.
@@christophermichaelclarence6003 France just showed how many of you would elect a fascist. That's a sad outcome, really. What was it, 42 percent?
@@Tina.Di.Napoli You mean Marine le Pen. She doesn't like the immigrants. She was voted 42%
My little Brother and I voted Macron for the sake of France and Europe. And for the Democracy. Voted 58%
🇪🇺🇫🇷🇩🇪🇮🇹🇱🇺🇧🇪🇳🇱
@@christophermichaelclarence6003 I'm proud of you 👏 you did the right thing
At last there are practical people in charge - I really like Austin, he's got and he delivers the goods.
Hahahaha love the joke
@@drdeath9835 What do you find funny? Nobody else did, you got zero support.
Yes! Finally!!! Keep giving them bigger, and more mobile, weapons, so that the Ukrainians can push the Russians out of their country, and liberate both the Donetsk, and the Crimea, from Russian Occupation.
if there was some way to get paid to be ignorant, you would be a millionaire. Mostly Ethic Russians live on those lands for generations. they rejected the government that took over after 2014 coup. So how would Ukraine be liberating Crimea and Donbas?
More deaths, more destructions, more civilian causlaties. Why not trying to stop the war instead?
And take Moscow, it has to be done.
Have you asked the residents of Crimea their position personally?
@@marilu703 I asked. Everyone I talked to said they have enough of Russian occupation.
This is good, I'm glad there is a concerted effort to provide systems and training to best effect for Ukraine, especially as their needs shift over time. I'm still concerned about getting the logistics squared in Ukraine for these shipments. Hopefully there is organizing support we can offer along with the weapons and supplies. If these things are sitting in warehouses then they are less than useless.
Sitting in warehouses = sitting targets.
These will be bombed the instant they are deployed or maybe even before. Like everything else that has been sent, it’s merely a token gesture to give the appearance of support.
Yeah, yo uare aware this is old stuff. THey send it because they are retired - in 2010. And have enough ammunition for 20 minutes of firing.
This is not good this is very bad. Sending high end weapons and nato troops into Ukraine to train what you think will happen if they get killed?
A long with pulling off sanctions will not be eased no matter what Putin does by Boris.
When you take away all avenues to save face and you leave him no options what you think he will do.
Peace talks should be going in from every member of the UN and NATO or give zelensky more power to negotiate.
Keeping a war going only benefits Raytheon and Boeing. Along with the government share holders.
@@ThomasTomiczek I don’t think many of these 🐑 realise how much ammo and weapons are required to fight a war. As an example The US main supplier failed to fulfil an order of ammunition from the US for Ukraine by 1.2billion bullets. They simply cannot make them quick enough. On the other hand Russia is producing millions of bullets per day from each of its factories. 🧐
My favorite part is when the guys tells the news anchor "no they are not tanks"
These fellows are making the war worsen they are showing their power & not worried about the innocent people
Thank You All, German people. We will never forget it. 💞🌍🙏🏻
We waited a long time 🇺🇦❤🇩🇪
I agree, but keep, in mind that it was Germany that blocked Ukraine from NATO!
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@@nightlightabcd it was years ago 🤦🏼♀️
Ah, your proper Ambassador in Germany, who is constantly bashing and insulting us will for sure complain for this is too little, too late, too old and wrong colour.
Yes please give them all the weapons they ask for even plead for their people's lives . Much more main battle tanks , mobile artillery , aircraft , fuel, ammo
More deaths, more destructions, more civilian causlaties. Why not trying to stop the war instead?
Like Vietnam, Afghanistan, ore wat !!??
I hope it's not too late
Ukraine will take back everything they lost in 2022. Will take a few years tho
me too
Think we should do the same thing.. Give Ukraine all the tools to defeat Russia so they stop the aggression. Russia is not going to stop with Ukraine they will pause there but in a couple of years they will try to take additional Territory. Russia wants all the Territory they had when they were the Soviet Union.
As long as Putin is alive. He's already 70. They need special forces within Russia to take him out like US special forces took out bin Laden. The only way... new regime.
Geppars make even more sense when used with the PZH 2000s giving them protection against air attacks .
Please, speak of Putin and his authoritarian toxic masculine mafia gang. Nobody gains something, if we establish a "us vs. them" mentality regarding the russian people. They are essentially in an abusive relationship to Putin and heavily brainwashed. And it's of course by far not all of them. Large parts are against this war, but aren't allowed to speak up.
@Laika24102007 and a lot of russians just want a good life. Lets see if warmongering or comfort wins - if human decency is not a factor.
that's right, the tools may seem expensive but they're actually cheap compared to the damage they do. It's actually much easier and cheaper fighting Russia via proxy than doing it with our own blood. Send Ukraine all the help they need. They'll be closer allies after and they'll repay the favor. We can't let Russia continue to bully the world. It has to stop in Ukraine.
"Germany will" is something that we've seen for months now. Everyone cheering should hold their breath until Germany has actually delivered.
German politicians talk a lot, a damn lot to be honest and then also a damn lot of BS, but delivering is not high on their agenda.
Not really, unless you have seen some unfounded speculations. One might not agree with what they have agreed to deliver. But what they actually agreed on is on it's way or has been delivered. Some equipment, like those Gepards, are not available instantly though. Everything is checked and serviced as needed before it is sent over. An this is a good thing. Some of the older gear has been decommissioned for decades. They had to throw away half or so of the Strelas for example because they turned out to be to dangerous to be used. Since Ukrainians have been injured by exploding rockets sent by other countries, that is probably a good idea. ^^
TRUE ENOUGH SADLY
True, Germany makes good sounds but does not deliver for an age. Remember that 10 years ago they promised they would increase GDP spending on military to 2.0 GDP but didn't and were actually reducing it to 1.35 GDP.
Great meeting, now Finland and Sweden have no reason to fear joining NATO!
We are all together in this, whatever happens, will happen to everyone. It is forbidden to return to the days of fear of the Soviet state!
Slava Ukraine, Slava NATO, Slava for the whole West!
Great. More people will die.
And the ones left will be free
@@sbrecipe2485 You don't care about people living in Russia? Everyone will die in a nuclear war against the West!
Javelin and Panzerfaust 3 are Wrecking Lots of Russian Tanks.
In dense terrain and cityfighting yes but the problem is eastern and southern Ukraine is open terrain where the Russian tanks, and modern missile systems have the advantage.
@@DaDunge yet the russian tanks are not that modern + good luck spotting a javelin at its max range
Yes as soon as possible.Don't let Russia celebrate their 9th May victory celebration over Germany.
Yes, Russia promised in 1994 to never attack Ukraine if it gave up its nuclear weapons
Ukraine, Russia, the U.S. and the UK signed a 1994 treaty that assured Ukraine it would be safe from attack as long as it gave up its massive stockpile of nukes.
You know Nukes in Ukraine is Russian Nukes from Soviet era... What happen in 2014.. And why Ukraine bombed pro-russian civils in Donbass for 8 year... Find out this.
So what? Who cares? Americans don't want to go to war over this. Only Sleepy Joe and his hacks want war.
For all of the failures of Russia, they are deep in strategic areas and will stay there until thrown out. Send Ukraine anything they can use.
No the only strategic area they have captured so far is Mariupol .the rest is just flat lands
lets see what else they can dig out of the museums. Maybe some old Panzer 4s like the good old days eh?
@hugh mungus Anything that rids us of Russians sounds great to me! Stay strong Ukraine!
Very good interview, Herr Wiegel explained the situation very well.
Marvelous deniability; still it's important survival armaments to Ukraine's. Thank you so much Germany & industrial companies.
When those promised Weapons are actually in Ukrainian hands to defend themselves, then Germany deserves praise.
Far too late anyway!
Exactly! Can’t count how many times were talking about total shift in its policy towards war in Ukraine.
German companies wanted to sell and in some cases donate this equipment almost a month ago. All the German government has done is decide to stop blocking that!
Always blame on germany...
Whats about the Other countrys?
Where are the british and US Tanks?
@@tirpi8830 US and UK donated a lot of weapons and military equipment so far, US donated over one billion$, by now Germany one of the biggest economies didnt donate any weapons (exact for 500 barely useable missiles) even tho they announced loudly they will and until now were blocking Ukraine from buying military equipment from Germany but if I don’t see those tanks in Ukraine I don’t believe double faced Germany. Much poorer countries did more for Ukraine than Germany and everything because Germans don’t want to make Putin angry cause after war they plan to go straight away to business as usual with Russia.
Those Gepards are probably the best thing Ukraine could get at this point! Short range AA, but also excellent at chewing up anything on the ground. Fast moving, then BRRRRT everything!
Love the expression to move\heaven and earth" to Support Ukraine. thank you, Sir. Glory to Ukraine
This will be hilarious. Nah, that won't push thru. Russia just cut off the gas to Poland, I bet Germany will quickly have second thoughts. Russia is spanking back now
i hope ukraine will not allow a land grab.
Russia has to capitulate! And pay reparations to Ukraine!
Soviet-designed weapons vs NATO-designed countermeasures. Who knew it would happen like this?
Me and my neighbor. Time to step up and deal with them once and for all
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It's not the first time. Iraq fielded Soviet weapons. Poorly.
@@hugow.5973 Well that is because of poor training, if there were American tankers operating those T-72 it would have ended up differently /s (actually half sarcastic but still)
Well Russia you got an unexpected fight ahead . Zelensky is short in stature but, big in heart . These ally country dropping serious investments in Ukraine . Although the departed people can’t be brought back . Ukraine will be bigger and better when all this is over despite Putin stance.
What kind of mic are they using in there. Sounds like they are communicating through strings tied to cups
No doubts, that's great news !
I play the Gepard in War thunder, and I will just say that it is probably my favorite Anti aircraft vehicle I've played... it is badass in it's abilities and it is capable of killing not just aircraft but also light and some medium tanks.
War Thunder isnt real life, its miles from realistic
@@hansloyalitat9774 still very realistic for a game though just thought I'd say
I appreciate how these games are modeled after actual military equipment.
@@hansloyalitat9774 I know it's not... but I am saying you could do a lot worse and they need the AA.
Thank you, Germany, for making this move. Ukrainians will not forget it!
Thankyou Germany .
Let's hope there there soon 🙏
What a terrifying escalation. People still cheering as if this is a sporting event.
Yes, it will only further devastate Ukraine. For 20 years Nato couldn't defeat Cavemen afghans will they defeat Russia? 😂😂😂
Say that to Putin who bring war in Europe rather than make economic peaceful escalation. Shame to him and all Oligarch.
best learn to love extreme WAR ... These new German weapons and Canadian Artillery are not going to Poland , but to Romania ......seems Nato is loading up weapons in Romania and put troops in Moldova( second front)
@@vivekprasad3831 compare the life of the average american/European to the average Afghan and tell me who won the war🤣 funny how the Taliban went out of hiding the second Nato left, its almost like they were scared to come out before, i wonder why🤣
Tell that to Putina. This will only end when the last Russian soldier has left Ukrainian territory or is fertilizing it.
They need jets, jets, jets. And they need them yesterday…
A great weapon system against low flying aircraft such as helicopters or drones.
Too bad they don't get the Mantis system
Mantis is the future.
Not supplying heavy arms because of training issues should really be a non-excuse for helping, the UA military are VERY quick learners and inspiringly resourceful and cunning. Give them some AAA and a sheet of translated instructions and they'll have them suckers up and running and 'decommissioning' Russian Sukhoi within a week! - Slava Ukraini - Слава Україні!
do you really think decomissioned planes that can't even take off will help?
Treu the Geppard /cheeta aa tanks are imense complex and maintenance cost are sky high . one of the reasons peru send back the ones they bought from the netherlands .
@@marcusfranconium3392 At this point long term running costs are not really the aim of the Ukraine army as they are likely to rather run such expensive high maintenance equipment into the ground and leave it there while waiting on something more viable.
Their ability to maintain equipment is taxed as it is with bombings of many major repair facilities across Ukraine so repairing old equipment would end up being a burden.
@@flackstar007 WIth expensive i mean parts maintenance and crews needed to maintain them ,
About bloody time.
Putin's anger meter is having higher and higher readings every time Ukraine receives weapons from NATO and non NATO countries.
wonderful, ukraine will be a dumping ground for everyone's obsolete military hardware that barely works and can't be used because ukrainians don't have training for them.
Do hope it causes his haemorrhoids to inflame 😊
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Good! Because the alternative is to let him take what he want without opposition.
Chemical weapons first then nuclear that’s his plan to counter ‘western aggression ‘ dig?
Putin needs to lower his fist when his anger rises.
He needs to lower his anger when his fists rise.
Otherwise the Russia he knows will no longer exist.
Lavrov: There is a real Danger of a Nuclear War
Germany: Ok, We will now send Tanks instead of defensive Weapons.
This Comical Ali is really the best support for Ukraine.
Comical Ivan...
It's about time, the show will soon come to its end.
I regret to clarify that Germany is in fact sending 1/4 scale tanks and the Remote Control kits did not include batteries.
Germany hasn't rolled tanks towards Russia for a while
Alright! Germany stepping it up, good job!
This will be hilarious. Nah, that won't push thru. Russia just cut off the gas to Poland, I bet Germany will quickly have second thoughts. Russia is spanking back now
F I N A L L Y
T72tank and Rus attack helicoper can be easily destroyed by Germany Antitank heavy weapons.
Most expensive weapons from Germany.
Exactly needed from Brave Ukraine 🇺🇦 🙏 ❤
Thanks for Germany 🇩🇪 🙏 😀 🙌 😘
You guys are saying that since Russia invaded, and yet you are loosing ground every day. I mean cmon guys, with amount of weapons you received so far from all over the world you should be at Moscow already.
@@johnnysgaminglab2126 look who is a talking. a gamer ... lol
The billions held in the world banks should be handed over to Ukraine as restitution for the civilians who have lost home from the criminal and blatant attach on their homes/country. Under the same rules Germany had to pay . Russia or any country invading another country sovereign state must be held accountable. To the point no one will think about it going forward.
For sure I agree with you totally. Slava Ukraine.
Russia needs to pay reparations to Ukraine. Agreed.
We need more to think like you.
ABOUT TIME n the next line is Leopard 2 tanks along with 155 artillery howitzers with lots of ammo!
Well done Germany and all countries helping Ukraine. God bless you all🙏 🙏
Smh
ye an absulute waste of time considering even if russia withdraws they have no contry to come back to ahhahahahhahah THERE ARE NO MONEY... NONE WHAT SO EVER AHAHHAHAHAHAA
Germany has become a good country, I am proud of you, you're probably better than America. From an American.
FCKU!🇩🇪🇷🇺
I'd be scared of German-engineered armor
about time. GOD BLESS UKRAINE💙💛
Good job Germany. And Germany will be a super power in EU and NATO.
Only if germany combats corruption amongst its politicians, otherways they will ruin the country!!!
At this point, I won't believe it until I saw a German weapon destroy Russian tanks.
The human cost will be huge, but Ukraine can still win this war against those Fascist Orcs. Humanity will prevail. Slava Ukraini.
why do people always call communist fascist? I never gonne understand this. One of the reasons Russia invaded Ukraine was to decimate the faschist bataljon of Azov.
Thank you Germany.
Vielen Dank.
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Germany and all other laggards need to get on the right side of history before it’s too late
On that last sentence: nobody is expecting the German government to actively support Ukraine. They've made their position/allegiance very clear by now..
But if allied pressure can get them to stop blocking weapon supplies by others, commercial or national. By refusing to issue export licences, even on equipment that's been owned by other nations for decades already, that would mean the world!
Exactly
I think it was Switzerland blocking ammo delivery for ammunition that goes to equipment that they had wanted to transfer, so not really Germany's fault on that one..
Germany sent several thousands Panzerfausts and a lot of other stuff.
Nonsense, everyone else at that conference is expecting Germany to support Ukraine, and no they haven’t made their position at all clear. Likely different politicians have different positions. Some one is clogging the wheels, but it isn’t clear who it is and what hold they have.
Absolut nonsense Germany has been Ukraines 4th largest donor so far.
Thank you for your continuing very good reporting on the Russo-Ukrainian war. I really benefit from your perspectives. Interesting to hear Western but non-American reportage.
A Russian "victory" at this stage of the war is a complete withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine.
Everyday they let this war drag on for themselves is a day they grow weaker militarily.
I'd like to think that Putin is smarter than he is currently displaying
~ time will tell.
This is not enough. Ukraine needs more real battle tanks, artillery, and fighter jets. The training for that equipment should start now since the stock of soviet weaponry is limited. Germany is still very hesitant to do that, while it's not hesitant to pay 700 million dollars every day to russia for the gas.
Right. The training should have started much earlier. Too much time is lost.
It is high time that Germany finally committed to defending the free and democratic world and our Western civilization, which is based on freedom, democracy, liberalism and respect for human rights. So far, Germany has played a 'neutral' role (to put it VERY diplomatically), even though the Ukrainians are also fighting for their freedom.
A-effing-MEN! Indeed, Ukrainians are also fighting and losing their lives every day for Germany's values of freedom and democracy!
I found it useful when nations were congratulating themselves on providing so many 100s of millions of dollars in military aid or that the USA has provided over $3BN so far when a USA General pointed out that in the Afghan campaign the USA were spending by the end $9 Billion a month every month just in Afghanistan and the USA were in Afghanistan for 22 years. War is expensive, what the allies have provided so far in 2 months basically amounts to international pocket change (a single javelin hand held fired missile costs $100,000). What the Ukranians have managed to do with it so far is unbelievable, to beat back one of the largest militaries in the world.
The allies are fighting Russia via Ukraine and not using troops because it is better to spend money now rather than blood later. The trouble is the amounts involved are really very small and the self governed limitations on types of weaponry seems to be controlled by lawyers and not military experts.
Why not use the money to settle for peace. Reconstruct the country instead of fueling the war. The decision made by the Ukraine president and the west, is to drag us all into a nuclear holocaust. And Russia is figthing for its survival from the West political anti Russian rant.
Why did usa not release the migs that were donated by poland. Ukraine needs air superiority and are well trained in using russian migs
We were paying for fighters, food and transportation ect. Obviously, we don't have fighters in Ukraine.
Why don't you tell us what your country has EVER done for others and I'll compare US's.
Effen NOTHING!!! We knew the answer.
@@williamzabiski7653 Ukraine already got planes and parts. They do it under the radar now
lol germany got tired of the axis side and went ally
I agree with this because this although classified as a heavy weapon it is a defensive weapon to protect rather than attack.
Don't be so sure. Russia used the comparable Shilka SPAAG to devastating effect in Chechnya, often obliterating ATGM teams before they could launch their missiles. It played a decisive role in the Battle of Grozny, where tank cannons lacked the elevation to target enemy combatants on rooftops.
Hardly. The gund can go against ground and take out anything short of a battle tank.
They don't need tanks, they need heavy artillery, drones and cruise missiles to take out the russian cruise missile launchers on Crimea. They badly need to increase the logistics capability, they need thousands of trucks, trucks are more valuable than tanks.
The Gepard is anti aircraft. It can shoot down cruise missles
Gepard can be very effective Vs all flying targets include cruise missiles ist have around 5000m range which is not bad
Ukraine: Spends weeks asking for tanks
This youtube hero: Ukraine doesnt need tanks
@@noobster4779 He thinks it's GTA.
PzH 2000 is an artillery.
Did everyone see the iron cross on the tanks !! Goodbye Russians. !
Ukraine showed itself a worthy future member of NATO until now.
Ukraine will join NATO with Sweden and Finland, all thanks to Pootin
It's a good start....and better late than never...... it would have been very unfortunate for the Germans if they were on the wrong side of History yet again.
There are only a handful of really old people left alive in Germany who stood on the wrong side in WWII. Why are you throwing all Germans under 80 into the same pot with them? They didn't commit crimes against humanity between 33-45, they weren't even born then. They were never on the "wrong side of history". Germans can't choose in which country they are born, young people in Germany are not responsible for the atrocities that their ancestors did. Please be fair towards the generations born after WWII in Germany.
A-effing-MEN! GERMANY HAS BEEN LOOKING PRETTY BAD UP TO THIS POINT (and continue financing PUTLER'S war)!
It's a special german air cleaner.
Mr. Scholz should step aside if he's not able to go ahead.
All the MPs from SPD who dream about re-establishing trades with russia after the war may also step aside.
Germany has given Ukraine €7.715 Billion of financial aid in total since 2014 and thus is one of the most helpful countries - financially.
That shows that - even though it wasn't weapons - Germany tried to help Ukraine as much as it could.
This step now is even more incredible as Germans are really careful with sending weapons to countries in war since they had special responsibilities due to WWII.
how does this amount compare to what they’ve “given” Russia for gas, oil, etc. in the same timeframe?
And how much money have Germany spent on Russian gas during the same period?
@@brushstroke7190 Well, Germany by far wasn't the only country dependent of Russia and almost nobody besides the US did a lot against Russia compared to nowadays.
However, Germany had a dependency of Russian oil of 35% 8 weeks ago (so yes, they gave them a lot of money) and lowered that dependency to just 12% in the last 8 weeks, so I guess you could say that as soon as Russia attacked, Germany tried its best to stop giving Russia money.
@@DaDunge read my last message too pls.
@@unweeked They're still providing Rusisa with more money than they are Ukraine. How about simply taxing Russian gas, for every euro sent to Russia for gas 1 europe is spent on some kind of help for Ukraine.