American shop class: "Make a lamp that lights up." Croatian shop class: "Make a machine gun that fires semi and full-auto. Wait - just make it full auto."
A guy in my Junior High shop class made a 22 caliber slam fire zip gun, turned the metal parts in metal class and carved the stock in wood class. Instructor took it away from him at time of final assembly. We never did find out if it would work.
That's really not a bad little SMG. I'm of the "the simpler the better" school of thought for SMGs, the useful range is under 50 metres anyway so KISS doesn't do any harm and makes it a lot easier to build, maintain and operate.
KIS (aka "the Liquidator") was a very cool little SMG made in Poland (Saint-Cross Mountains) in 1943, inspired by the STEN but simplified. And it looked a little like this one too… :)
I love how Ian went from always apologising for his pronunciation every time he encountered a foreign word to clearly enjoying and being fascinated by languages after he started to learn French. Learn languages people! It expands and enriches your mind and your experience.
One thing to add to those early barrack raids of the JNA weapons. My uncle was a police officer back in '91 and days/weeks before the war broke out the top brass of croatian police instructed every cop to bring home 2 machineguns a pistol and a couple grenades "just in case". I still have a photo of my uncle in the living room with the weapons they gave him from the station. So Croatia did have *some* small arms thanks to good thinking on the local police and hunters.
My father has spoken of guns used in the war since I was a small child, he was an assigned quartermaster after a training injury damaged his hearing, before which he was an infiltration scout. He was 19 to 20. I'm glad Ian covers the matter. He and many others wore, in part, US Vietnam-era surplus attire given, there were weapons alike as well.
I was in the Former Yugoslavia from March to Sept 92, part of the Canadian Battle Group for UNProFor. Our main camp was Daruvar, and we spent 3 and a half months in Vukovar and we spent 2 and a half months in Sisak clearing mines and making checkpoint stations. I went back in 96 with IFOR, after the Dayton Peace Accord, opened up what was called Camp Black Bear in Velika Kladusa...
Hi Ian, thanks to write the subtitles in English instead of use automatically generated ones! Easier for non native English speaker to understand and learn English 😉 Salute you from France
For newer videos, I have a feeling it's auto generated by video editors like modern copies of Adobe Premiere have this feature. The result is much better than RUclips's and really good. But this is just a feeling, not a matter of fact.
@@WingMaster562 yeah a youtuber that the main job was video editing told me that about text Adobe editing, but this "auto text module" is not widly use. Maybe it's what we see when there are " I..." instead of "i i i i" when someone is searching in their memories things to follow their phrase. Many youtubers have a script (like, for instance, a 20 or 40 minutes video about history, or anything around knowledge) and with last Gen software and computer fast enough handle 4K video editing, it should be nice if they just had to put a .pdf/.txt/.docx/.odf document in a text module of the video editor, "and *voilà* " (like English speakers love to say 😁😁😁) !
@@Vin_San I've heard RUclips actually has support for automatically converting scripts into subtitles, using its speech to text to line everything up. No idea how good it is or if it's even still a thing (remember visible dislikes?)
Now that's a metalwork class I would have loved to attend. Thanks and appreciation to the Sisak Museum for opening their collection to Ian and thence to us.
Around the time of the Battle of the Baracks, the black market also stepped in and brought in thousands of romanian, hungarian, east german, russian, etc. AKs, along with other desired equipment, like the Ultimax. The AK I used in basic training in 2015 was a Tula production AKM from 1970.
Yeah, my half croatian half hungarian phys-ed teacher used to fake paperwork for hungarian aks and shit like that... imagine a bunch of crates labeled as tinned spinach or some shit was semt over full of the worst imaginable aks ever... but hey an ak is an ak.
You gotta love how Croatian gun manufacture went from few pipes wedged together in someone's garage to making world renowned bullpup assault rifle. PS:I hope you do a video on actual first Croatian assault rifle,the APS 95,which is a copy of Vector R4,which itself is a copy of Galil,which itself is based on RK 62,which itself is based on Polish AK47. Or Yugoslav M64,a reverse engineered AK47 variant
There were only like 5 ever made, only 2 of those were firing examples, and they are all in the ministry of defense collection, which we weren't able to get into at the time.
@@sevenus82jesus where tf did ian go this time, when i searched on the net for translation of krvolok it said bloodthirsty and also... executioner. His half assed translation kinda worries me.
Krvo-lok literally translates as Blood-Drin(ker). The only common context in which this word is used is that wolf is often described as "krvolok", or that wolf (or some exotic beast) is "krvoločan", because when a wolf attacks sheep it becomes frenzy and often puts down 20 animals while eating only one. You can imagine how the wolf looks after that... Thus the closest free-form translation would be: "The First Dire Wolf from Posavina County" Surname of the constructior, Alar, is pretty rare and characteristic for Lika County, from which Tesla (yes, that Tesla) was as well. Meaning could be Dragon-something is Slavic or, if Latin, it could be something related to fire place, synonym for home and family.
English closest thing would be "berserker". But in the context of the inscription, krvolok is also given as a nickname...kinda hard to describe but in english "gansta'", "badass", "mafioso" they're technically negatives, but we use them as endearing nicknames.
@@unlearningcommunism4742 i know we dont, but I think the idea of the use of the word fits. The English use would be “seeing red” or “red mist” but we don’t have a “someone who sees red”, but a Berserker IS that someone. Who during combat, or any amped up situation goes Blood lust on everyone.
@Rebel635csi or "the darkness has fallen upon his eyes" X) Slavic languages are simply not compatible with English. I wanted to use some of our poetry as memes, however, one single line in our language often requires one paragraph in order to keep the meaning. Imagine translating Blago's "you will find the key obviously hidden inside the window frame". Rhythm of this is plain ugly, and nobody would get the whole absurdity of locking the door and leaving the key.
Idk if someone made it already but they should really make a tab of Ian's videos just on these 90s yugo war era SMGs, because everytime I think Ian made every video possible of them he comes up with one more and in sure there's even more out there outside of this.
Ian you must visit Vukovar Museum of Homland war, they have very intresting stuff there, from handguns, submaschine guns, heavy maschine guns, altilery, tanks, fighter planes.....
Yeah. It is so weird to me some places don't considered the barrel the main functional part and instead say the receiver or the action. No, the barrel is the main functional part. It builds and contains the pressure propelling the bullet. Plus it is not at all "just a simple tube". Unless it's a simple shotgun. Any rifles most precision and hardest to produce part is it's barrel. Everything else is secondary to the tolerances, precision and accuracy needed to make a good safe, reliable and accurate barrel. Specially a long rifle barrel. Having to maintain that accurate consistency for that long is extremely hard. Major makers just make it seem easy, since they have literally century of experience and such massive economies of scale. Oh barrels.... there runs the full stable of radial cold forging machines with specialty hard carbide rifling mandrel and hammer dies. Yeah it makes barrels on a conveyor. Oh why so big? well it has hammering power of at minimum 100 tons per strike and it strikes multiple times per second.
@@justforever96 yah not even close to what I’m talking about. Look up FGC 9 and how it’s barrel is made. Doesn’t require any heavy tooling and can be done literally in your home. You have no clue what you’re talking about.
@@aritakalo8011 i believe the UK and some parts of Europe do this, where they register the pressure-bearing parts, particularly the barrel, as you say it is the most difficult part of the firearm to produce.
The hard life of the home gunsmith "I made a cool thing!" "Go to prison" This is why we can't have nice things or even not so nice things from the hardware store
In America it's completely legal to make your own guns. You just can't make it fully automatic, semi auto is fine, and you can't sell it, unless you get a license and put a serial number on it. Some states like California and New York have some additional laws on it. Most states are not a problem.
Its not just about being a home gunsmith. Too much regulation and burocracy limits the innovation potential of mankind in terms of technological development. You need permits and licenses for everything. Radios, equipment, medicine, chemicals and even some alloys... Fake illusion of safety created to make ourselves believe we are safe. Big brother always protects us, keeps us safe so we should be grateful to him we shouldn’t oblige and continue paying our taxes. We should leave these “dangerous” things only to big companies with ties to our rulers to profit of don’t we...
Funny how governments appeal to their subjects to take up arms and go to war. Then as soon as the panic is over the authorities immediately disarm their loyal population. You'd think folk would wise up.
This is hardly a Forgotten Weapon, for most people outside of Croatia its a Never Heard Of weapon. Thanks to Ian & the Sisak Museum for bringing this to us
What Croatians achieved is amazing and it is worth studying in detail. Hopefully they will be able to defend their hard earned sovereignty for generations to come.
if you google Croatia 925 . you will see that a lot has been taken from us and we're being suppressed for centuries but that strength of Croatian spirit eventually won
Uu, a new design. Btw, regarding the "krvolok", best equivalents in english would be the "bloodletter" and "bloodthirster"(actually the latter fits the original meaning the best). Both are, coincidentally or not, designations of foot soldier and greater demons of khorne the blood god from warhammer universe.
Bloodsucker. The translation of the word krvolok is bloodsucker. Bloodthirst and bloodlust do not have word for word equivalents in Croatian. Closest is "žeđ za krvlju", literally thirst for blood. Krvolok means bloodsucker.
Interesting when you think about how difficult it was to make good quality barrel rifling. These students were able to do a surprising amount of work to build these guns but when it came to the barrels they found it easier to just smuggle the stuff on the roof of their cars.
@@unlearningcommunism4742 ah thanks for the reply. I didnt realize you're from Croatia as well. Like the other comment reply, some people think contrary to what you're 100% sure of, and think "we" as in internationally. Thats why I asked for clarification to prove for them.
Despite being influenced by the MP-40 and the Papasha 41, I also see some semblance of the Mauser C-96 Broomhandle in the area of the pistol grip. Very interesting indeed.
Here's a challenge Brandon: Design your own Luty. Using parts available from a hardware store, design an imporved version. Maybe fires from a closed bolt, give it a stock, give it sights. I think we'd all like to see your take on a more modern and more effective Luty.
35 miles (69 km) from Sisak is Karlovac, the town in which is located HS Produkt factory where ALL Springfield "XD pistols" and "Springfield Hellions" in the world are produced.
one of our favorite thing to make in shop class was bongs but you couldn't just make a bong that would get you busted, so we made things that didn't look like bongs! my buddy made a a lil clay building called the bakery with two chimneys..lol it was a bong! another one was a model of a bullet train lol it was also a bong! and a few wer later fashioned from candle holders and flower vases that wer really just bongs in disguise! being a teen in the mid 90 was rad. but we new better than trying to make a sub machine gun with out the teachers ok first. and you bet their would be a bong hidden in their somewhere!
And you know People like you and I mean to do NO Harm to anyone or anything, so we can Not have them. But thousands of gang members in big cities have them and do harm. Insane
Ian since you are in Croatia and looking at interesting weapons like Krešimir i was wondering can you ask guys at Sisak museum do they have RT-20 (RT stands for "ručni top 😂) in collection. It isone more gem from homeland war. 😅
In 2018 I had a chance to visit Vukovar and Osijek. I understood that day why the US government does their best to never let threats reach our shores and why we try to fight our wars overseas where possible. You never ever want such horrors to occur in your land where it can be prevented or forestalled.
@@djdjukic you mean a full Serb victory. Yugoslavia was as dead as yesterday by that point. Also, the US did not really want to intervene. It was the rest of NATO that made that decision, mainly because the IJA was targeting civilians,particularly women.
@@davidtuttle7556 I'm not going to argue names or war crimes, I'm just saying it all had nothing to do with protecting the US. NATO wasn't in any danger either.
@@djdjukic I won’t either. That war was dirty as hell on all sides. But for whatever reason the European members of NATO decided it was our fight, though I disagree with that decision and agree with you. But sometimes when your friends and family get into a spot, you have do bite your tongue and support them, wrongheaded and foolish though they may be. That said, whomever made the decision to shoot UN Peacekeepers who were simply distributing food and medicines, that person was a total fkboy.
What are your 3 favorite Yugoslavian Weapons ? ( from any time period ) i like the Zastava M44 B-2 (Partizan SMG WW2 ), Zastava M77B1 Rifle & Zastava M56 SMG.
As an American who always admired the Australian people, I hope you guys can get your gun rights back someday. It's shameful what your government has done to you. No one on this earth should be disarmed by their government when they've done nothing wrong.
@@randomappalachian4635 I blame the commies. If it wasn't for them bitching the USA wanted to add disarming the population as a definition of genocide. The USSR refused coz, well already disarmed and oppressing our people.
@@randomappalachian4635They never had gun rights, it was just gun privileges. That's why they were able to take them with a stroke of the pen and a proclamation. The Democrats would do the same to us if we didn't have the constitutional right. They would take that and definitely freedom of speech if it weren't for the Bill of Rights. The Democrats hate the 1st and 2nd amendments with a passion.
tuning in... hehe that says a lot about a man. I like it :) 4:08 there sure is a locking mechanism there Ian. There is a hole in the bottom part of the folding stocks fastening. Im pretty sure that goes through that part and there is a indentation on the corresponding part of the fastener to hold a spring loaded pin or a simple push lock pin. :) It is not functional but there was a clear intent for a locking mechanism for the stock sir.
Regarding "Prvi posavski krvolok". :D In literal translation, "krvolok" in former Yugoslav languages means "blood drinker" or "blood sucker", if you will. "Krv" == blood "Lok" == extracted from verb "lokati" which is an expression/verb for describing "drinking excessively (usually alcohol) with an accompanying 'gurgling' kind of sound". But to give it more meaning in the context I would translate it "The First Posavian Slayer"
Considering that this was before the internet it's surprising that they knew how PPSh and MP40 were built and operated. It's not something you would normally have access to. There's something missing in this story. And from a soldier's point of view it's so weird to have coupled magazines facing in opposite directions (cause the bottom part would be in the dirt). You could just use 2 empty cartridges' as spacers and have them parallel or use one cartridge and have them at a narrow v shape (with ductape). We used to use live rounds as spacers back in the day, until you buy yourself a tsolevet or two. You do want coupled magazines, though. Always. For the initial engagement it makes a lot of difference. I'm really surprised you never see them in the US. It would really help in the competitive shooting matches that you do over here.
Having couple magazines face in the opposite direction is probably the most common way it’s done. It’s not down in commotion shooting because there’s no real need to.
@@baneofbanes Dude it saves several seconds on reloading. Plus much easier to carry. But you don't want your feeding lips facing the sand and dirt.. I think other than the common V shape like in ARs, AKs, Galils etc, the weirdest is in Tavor - STANAG mags face in opposite directions, because it's a bullpup. The original Uzi tsolevet is in an L shape ("tslav" means a cross), so you can't put it into a pouch of any kind.
what is missing in your story is that during the cold war in Yugoslavia, all children in school had a subject: national self-defense, where we learned to shoot and prepare for self-defense in case of war, but the state did not provide for these needs modern weapons for that time, type AK47, were used by men in the regular army, while for general national self-defense we had old weapons from the Second World War that the army no longer needed. so everyone at that time knew very well who works pps mauser etc. and if you didn't know you could literally take one from school and copy it.
Krvolok is bloodsucker. It's a noun, not an adjective. The adjective form would be krvoločan. So it's the First Sava Bloodsucker. Sava being a big river that runs through Croatia and neighboring nations and flowing into the Danube.
This looks like it would be totally usable for close range work. It's nice and compact and probably easy to maintain. It's incredible how simple you can make an automatic weapon. This is why gun bans will not work if you have a lot of people who really want to acquire them.
I guess that's the case for many of those guns. Those Homeland War weapons are very interesting. I also want to remind everyone that there are countries where guns are more or less banned. Among them are some of the most free countries in the world, crime is low and the bans work.
@@perolavhavik2585 But why would you sacrifice yourself for politicians who would disarm and thereby disempower you once their purpose was achieved. No politician is worth that. How truly free are the people when forcibly disarmed ? I think the Americans have this correctly calculated.
@@causewaykayak If you think your guns make you free from the government, try not paying taxes and see how that works out for you. Guns are a coping mechanism, not a "freedom tool". A gun fight between you and your buddies against the government forces only has one outcome, proven by anyone who ever tried it ever. Guns in the general population just result in more civilian deaths. When we had a fuck ton of them circling around in Croatia, every small gang got into a shootout sooner or later. Since most of them were gone, gun related crimes became a statistical anomaly. We are currently one of the safest places on Earth. I also don't have to worry about my health insurance or my pension fund, my college was 100% free and i can travel, work or even live anywhere in Europe i want without even a border check. You Americans have talked yourself into thinking only you have freedom, while you don't really even understand the meaning of the word any more. I leave my apartment doors unlocked and the car running when i go to the store in the 7th largest town in the country. My 12 year old niece walks around alone after dark without anyone even blinking about it. You sleep clinging to your gun. Who's the free one? And i'm saying that from experience, as someone who's lived on the front lines of that war as a kid (a real one, not just a culture war you are "fighting" but an actual battle for survival, against a genocidal foe who wanted our nation dead and/or wiped out from the map) and actually have a gun permit. Sure, you can arm a lot of people with small arms in the case of a war, but then you soon find out that you're still royally fucked without heavy machine guns, AA and AT missiles or modern armor. Naked infantry in modern warfare is mostly minced meat that doesn't know it yet. And without the level of organization, funding and equipment of a government, you stand no chance against one at all. Don't be fooled by insurgents in your Middle East adventures - you love life too much for that level of desperation, you won't be strapping bombs on your bodies or sending your underage children on the front lines of a conflict with government troops. That also means that you can't win unless the wast majority of you thinks the same way which is simply not the case since you are deeply divided. You are a slave to the machine who's been given access to shooting toys to make you calm while they slowly shift your very notion of freedom in a way that can't be solved with bullets. You have been played and you can't even se it.
Majstor generally means a blue collar worker in Croatian,people call pretty much any machinist, mechanic, electrician, construction worker, plumber, etc. a majstor.
Jokes asidr, I think one of the reasons is because these ones are the homemades that survive long enough, or work well enough to be used. There are Bubba's in the history too, just not worth to keep around, or documenting, or placed in museums. Internet just let us see current day Bubba's work.
Looks like a good little blow back smg, but i would be a little hesitant about using a hand made gun with a screw on end cap and a split tube. Seems little sketchy
I enjoy your videos and just saw the short on the Russian 1895 Winchester. Is there a full video on this rifle or just the short. I have one in good shape that I picked up in a pawnshop a long time ago for $40. A full video on it should be interesting. Thank you for all you do. Richard
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American shop class: "Make a lamp that lights up."
Croatian shop class: "Make a machine gun that fires semi and full-auto. Wait - just make it full auto."
honestly wish I went to Croatia just for shop class.
I must have missed the day in shop class when we built guns using illegally transported barrel blanks as students. Dang!
When my dad taught shop class back in the '60s, he had to be on constant lookout for students doing 'side projects'...
I'm sure if your mom is like mine, she told you to never ditch a class. Mom is always right.
Not illegal where I live. I was even on our high schools shooting team.
That was Tuesday after lunch....
A guy in my Junior High shop class made a 22 caliber slam fire zip gun, turned the metal parts in metal class and carved the stock in wood class. Instructor took it away from him at time of final assembly. We never did find out if it would work.
That's really not a bad little SMG. I'm of the "the simpler the better" school of thought for SMGs, the useful range is under 50 metres anyway so KISS doesn't do any harm and makes it a lot easier to build, maintain and operate.
There is an occasional urge to see what one can find at Lowe's or Home Depot...
@@petesheppard1709P A Luty did just that. They're not complicated. You could *simplify* an FGC-9 and get an effective smg.
@@alun7006 Yep. That's why SMGs are often the first weapons produced by a budding arms industry.
KIS (aka "the Liquidator") was a very cool little SMG made in Poland (Saint-Cross Mountains) in 1943, inspired by the STEN but simplified.
And it looked a little like this one too… :)
@@GazalAlShaqab How the hell do you simplify a STEN?
I love how Ian went from always apologising for his pronunciation every time he encountered a foreign word to clearly enjoying and being fascinated by languages after he started to learn French. Learn languages people! It expands and enriches your mind and your experience.
Homemade Firearm Design
Lvl 0: Warlord China Pistols
Lvl 1: Kyber Pass cludged rifles
Lvl 10: Luty
Lvl 25: Alar
Lvl 50: Owen SMG
@kevinweinz2790tough call. maybe 12? lol
Level 35: Strąpoć
One thing to add to those early barrack raids of the JNA weapons.
My uncle was a police officer back in '91 and days/weeks before the war broke out the top brass of croatian police instructed every cop to bring home 2 machineguns a pistol and a couple grenades "just in case". I still have a photo of my uncle in the living room with the weapons they gave him from the station. So Croatia did have *some* small arms thanks to good thinking on the local police and hunters.
My father has spoken of guns used in the war since I was a small child, he was an assigned quartermaster after a training injury damaged his hearing, before which he was an infiltration scout. He was 19 to 20. I'm glad Ian covers the matter. He and many others wore, in part, US Vietnam-era surplus attire given, there were weapons alike as well.
I was in the Former Yugoslavia from March to Sept 92, part of the Canadian Battle Group for UNProFor. Our main camp was Daruvar, and we spent 3 and a half months in Vukovar and we spent 2 and a half months in Sisak clearing mines and making checkpoint stations. I went back in 96 with IFOR, after the Dayton Peace Accord, opened up what was called Camp Black Bear in Velika Kladusa...
These are actually really well built. 9/10 very impressive. If any of the students see this, good work!
Hi Ian, thanks to write the subtitles in English instead of use automatically generated ones!
Easier for non native English speaker to understand and learn English 😉
Salute you from France
Same from Argentina!
same from romania
For newer videos, I have a feeling it's auto generated by video editors like modern copies of Adobe Premiere have this feature. The result is much better than RUclips's and really good. But this is just a feeling, not a matter of fact.
@@WingMaster562 yeah a youtuber that the main job was video editing told me that about text Adobe editing, but this "auto text module" is not widly use.
Maybe it's what we see when there are " I..." instead of "i i i i" when someone is searching in their memories things to follow their phrase.
Many youtubers have a script (like, for instance, a 20 or 40 minutes video about history, or anything around knowledge) and with last Gen software and computer fast enough handle 4K video editing, it should be nice if they just had to put a .pdf/.txt/.docx/.odf document in a text module of the video editor, "and *voilà* " (like English speakers love to say 😁😁😁) !
@@Vin_San I've heard RUclips actually has support for automatically converting scripts into subtitles, using its speech to text to line everything up. No idea how good it is or if it's even still a thing (remember visible dislikes?)
Now that's a metalwork class I would have loved to attend. Thanks and appreciation to the Sisak Museum for opening their collection to Ian and thence to us.
Around the time of the Battle of the Baracks, the black market also stepped in and brought in thousands of romanian, hungarian, east german, russian, etc. AKs, along with other desired equipment, like the Ultimax.
The AK I used in basic training in 2015 was a Tula production AKM from 1970.
Yeah, my half croatian half hungarian phys-ed teacher used to fake paperwork for hungarian aks and shit like that... imagine a bunch of crates labeled as tinned spinach or some shit was semt over full of the worst imaginable aks ever... but hey an ak is an ak.
You gotta love how Croatian gun manufacture went from few pipes wedged together in someone's garage to making world renowned bullpup assault rifle.
PS:I hope you do a video on actual first Croatian assault rifle,the APS 95,which is a copy of Vector R4,which itself is a copy of Galil,which itself is based on RK 62,which itself is based on Polish AK47. Or Yugoslav M64,a reverse engineered AK47 variant
Lively to see that ustasha inspired inscription on the gun. It kind of shows the ideology behind the designer.
There were only like 5 ever made, only 2 of those were firing examples, and they are all in the ministry of defense collection, which we weren't able to get into at the time.
@@sevenus82 serb tractorista detected
@@sevenus82jesus where tf did ian go this time, when i searched on the net for translation of krvolok it said bloodthirsty and also... executioner.
His half assed translation kinda worries me.
@@robertkalinic335should've looked for Graf Krolock 🧛🏼♀️
What I love about this channel is the use of language that I don't hear anywhere else. Trunnion, detent, sear, lug; beautiful words :)
My favorite is "fiddlybit".
I want to see Alar, Owen, Strąpoć, and Lutty meet in a workshop filled with tools and materials to built guns, and see what they create
Forged in fire but with boomy booms?!?! I think that might make a great TV series for the US
a hammer, file, and drill would probably be enough? with some scraps around.
@@davefellhoelter1343 Add at least a saw, and you might get something. Not good, but something.
We agree with this guy, but no one talks about his profile picture
@@davefellhoelter1343 welder too
Krvo-lok literally translates as Blood-Drin(ker). The only common context in which this word is used is that wolf is often described as "krvolok", or that wolf (or some exotic beast) is "krvoločan", because when a wolf attacks sheep it becomes frenzy and often puts down 20 animals while eating only one. You can imagine how the wolf looks after that...
Thus the closest free-form translation would be: "The First Dire Wolf from Posavina County"
Surname of the constructior, Alar, is pretty rare and characteristic for Lika County, from which Tesla (yes, that Tesla) was as well.
Meaning could be Dragon-something is Slavic or, if Latin, it could be something related to fire place, synonym for home and family.
English closest thing would be "berserker". But in the context of the inscription, krvolok is also given as a nickname...kinda hard to describe but in english "gansta'", "badass", "mafioso" they're technically negatives, but we use them as endearing nicknames.
@@Rebel635csi Berserker is indeed a solid hint, but on the other hand, in the Balkans we don't really have a word for berserker.
@@unlearningcommunism4742 i know we dont, but I think the idea of the use of the word fits. The English use would be “seeing red” or “red mist” but we don’t have a “someone who sees red”, but a Berserker IS that someone. Who during combat, or any amped up situation goes Blood lust on everyone.
@Rebel635csi or "the darkness has fallen upon his eyes" X)
Slavic languages are simply not compatible with English.
I wanted to use some of our poetry as memes, however, one single line in our language often requires one paragraph in order to keep the meaning.
Imagine translating Blago's "you will find the key obviously hidden inside the window frame".
Rhythm of this is plain ugly, and nobody would get the whole absurdity of locking the door and leaving the key.
@@unlearningcommunism4742 lud ko kurac? :D
Idk if someone made it already but they should really make a tab of Ian's videos just on these 90s yugo war era SMGs, because everytime I think Ian made every video possible of them he comes up with one more and in sure there's even more out there outside of this.
there's a lot more coming :)
Ian you must visit Vukovar Museum of Homland war, they have very intresting stuff there, from handguns, submaschine guns, heavy maschine guns, altilery, tanks, fighter planes.....
+1, he could even stay in our apartments!
The simplicity of the design, robustness, beauty, it's the best homeland defense Volksturm type of firearm I've ever seen.
This actually shows how important it is to know how to produce barrels. Producing barrels in a short amount of time is second to that.
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Yeah. It is so weird to me some places don't considered the barrel the main functional part and instead say the receiver or the action. No, the barrel is the main functional part. It builds and contains the pressure propelling the bullet. Plus it is not at all "just a simple tube". Unless it's a simple shotgun. Any rifles most precision and hardest to produce part is it's barrel. Everything else is secondary to the tolerances, precision and accuracy needed to make a good safe, reliable and accurate barrel. Specially a long rifle barrel. Having to maintain that accurate consistency for that long is extremely hard.
Major makers just make it seem easy, since they have literally century of experience and such massive economies of scale. Oh barrels.... there runs the full stable of radial cold forging machines with specialty hard carbide rifling mandrel and hammer dies. Yeah it makes barrels on a conveyor. Oh why so big? well it has hammering power of at minimum 100 tons per strike and it strikes multiple times per second.
@@aritakalo8011eh it’s becoming increasingly easier to manufacture barrels for straight wall cartridges now.
@@justforever96 yah not even close to what I’m talking about. Look up FGC 9 and how it’s barrel is made. Doesn’t require any heavy tooling and can be done literally in your home.
You have no clue what you’re talking about.
@@aritakalo8011 i believe the UK and some parts of Europe do this, where they register the pressure-bearing parts, particularly the barrel, as you say it is the most difficult part of the firearm to produce.
The hard life of the home gunsmith
"I made a cool thing!"
"Go to prison"
This is why we can't have nice things or even not so nice things from the hardware store
In America it's completely legal to make your own guns. You just can't make it fully automatic, semi auto is fine, and you can't sell it, unless you get a license and put a serial number on it. Some states like California and New York have some additional laws on it. Most states are not a problem.
Its not just about being a home gunsmith. Too much regulation and burocracy limits the innovation potential of mankind in terms of technological development. You need permits and licenses for everything. Radios, equipment, medicine, chemicals and even some alloys... Fake illusion of safety created to make ourselves believe we are safe. Big brother always protects us, keeps us safe so we should be grateful to him we shouldn’t oblige and continue paying our taxes. We should leave these “dangerous” things only to big companies with ties to our rulers to profit of don’t we...
Funny how governments appeal to their subjects to take up arms and go to war. Then as soon as the panic is over the authorities immediately disarm their loyal population. You'd think folk would wise up.
"...Or even not so nice things!" 😆Lol!
@@thekraken1173 sadly that is exactly how they want it.
Yay! Another Forgotten Weapons video! I love your work, Ian!
This is hardly a Forgotten Weapon, for most people outside of Croatia its a Never Heard Of weapon. Thanks to Ian & the Sisak Museum for bringing this to us
What Croatians achieved is amazing and it is worth studying in detail. Hopefully they will be able to defend their hard earned sovereignty for generations to come.
They're a full member of NATO with all that entails.
if you google Croatia 925 . you will see that a lot has been taken from us and we're being suppressed for centuries but that strength of Croatian spirit eventually won
im a huge fan of a simplistic gun design because their steampunk look, thanks for adding another gun for my collection list sir!
Uu, a new design. Btw, regarding the "krvolok", best equivalents in english would be the "bloodletter" and "bloodthirster"(actually the latter fits the original meaning the best). Both are, coincidentally or not, designations of foot soldier and greater demons of khorne the blood god from warhammer universe.
@luxlucius That would be the literal translation of "krvožeđ", while "krvolok" meaning is closer to someone who revels in shedding blood of others.
Bloodsucker.
The translation of the word krvolok is bloodsucker.
Bloodthirst and bloodlust do not have word for word equivalents in Croatian. Closest is "žeđ za krvlju", literally thirst for blood.
Krvolok means bloodsucker.
@luxlucius Ili blood drinker, taman se sjetio i tog :P
@@ivanivanovic5586 If I understood it correctly, "you should taste my onion, the eggs are lovely" takes a whole different meaning in Croatian.
I am loving all the recent videos on croatian guns, Ian!
there's a lot more on the way :)
@@JordanFlayerInside information?
@@mynick937 yup 😝
@@JordanFlayer Don't get fired 😆
I FULLY admire this guys Interest in Firearms and I love the simple and old school design of the Guns✊🤟🔥👍👌💯
Super cool Ian. Really nice to see the evolution of this SMG.
This is why I enjoy FW so much. I love seeing the progress from idea to final product.
Gee... they don't have these kind of things in my local school library.
Some schools are better than others.
Interesting when you think about how difficult it was to make good quality barrel rifling. These students were able to do a surprising amount of work to build these guns but when it came to the barrels they found it easier to just smuggle the stuff on the roof of their cars.
“Hey, what are you kids doing?”
“Uhhh, making roof racks”
The lower oddly reminds me of the grip frame assembly of a C96 Broomhandle.
Students at a school assembling guns from scrap... This is some heavy Iron Man 1 vibes
Regarding the date, we usually go with DD/MM/YYYY
"We" as is whom? Which collective?
@@WingMaster562 we as the rest of the world
@WingMaster562 We, as in: We, the people from Yugoslavia.
I was 100% sure that if the video is about a gun made in Croatia, "we" means we from Croatia
@@unlearningcommunism4742 ah thanks for the reply. I didnt realize you're from Croatia as well.
Like the other comment reply, some people think contrary to what you're 100% sure of, and think "we" as in internationally. Thats why I asked for clarification to prove for them.
True for uk
Despite being influenced by the MP-40 and the Papasha 41, I also see some semblance of the Mauser C-96 Broomhandle in the area of the pistol grip. Very interesting indeed.
I love simple sub-gun designs!
2:51 "I didn't have any idea what to do but I knew I needed a click. So we put a click" (Giorgio by Moroder)
Here's a challenge Brandon: Design your own Luty. Using parts available from a hardware store, design an imporved version. Maybe fires from a closed bolt, give it a stock, give it sights. I think we'd all like to see your take on a more modern and more effective Luty.
Also a tutorial
Why are you addressing him under a forgotten weapons video
He'd probably need to work with a legit gun designer to make it legally.
@@yendubBrandon literally fits that bill
Wrong channel, bud
Love that this is basically the result of Croatia's PA Luty being given a redemption arc
"car roof rack materials" sounds a lot like "solvent trap" or "car fuel filter"
A PPSH had a baby with an MP40! There is hope for he world. 😂
If you speak any slavic language, the word "KRVOLOK" is just wonderful.
I don't think so.
35 miles (69 km) from Sisak is Karlovac, the town in which is located HS Produkt factory where ALL Springfield "XD pistols" and "Springfield Hellions" in the world are produced.
Intriguing, it's like a Highschool metal shop version of a Thompson.
one of our favorite thing to make in shop class was bongs but you couldn't just make a bong that would get you busted, so we made things that didn't look like bongs! my buddy made a a lil clay building called the bakery with two chimneys..lol it was a bong! another one was a model of a bullet train lol it was also a bong! and a few wer later fashioned from candle holders and flower vases that wer really just bongs in disguise! being a teen in the mid 90 was rad. but we new better than trying to make a sub machine gun with out the teachers ok first. and you bet their would be a bong hidden in their somewhere!
Great video. Krvolok would translate more like bloodthirster, so "first posavian bloodthirster"
I feel this guy's pain. A Home made firearm like this would also put me in prison. Abolish the NFA!
And you know People like you and I mean to do NO Harm to anyone or anything, so we can Not have them. But thousands of gang members in big cities have them and do harm. Insane
@@stefanmolnapor910 It's legalized for gang members, but illegal for good law-abiding citizens?
Or did i misunderstand this stupid-ass comment?
Guess i'll have to cycle down to Sisak one of these days to take a look at all that stuff
You bet the first thing I would do if I had that gun is 3d print a buffer that is half the lenght of that one, make it a lil chugga-chugga machine
Hey bro wanna come to the malt bar?
- nah man I’m making my gun in school today
Ian since you are in Croatia and looking at interesting weapons like Krešimir i was wondering can you ask guys at Sisak museum do they have RT-20 (RT stands for "ručni top 😂) in collection. It isone more gem from homeland war. 😅
I would watch that!
Da ga prave danas, Amerikanci bi ih kupovali kao blesavi
The first bloodguzzler from Posavina... Nice.
Thanks for the show and tell. Enjoyed.
Thanks!! Now I need to visit Sisak.
Greetings from a fan of yours from Croatia 🇭🇷👍
11:13 DAMN YOU, STEVE BERRA!
“I won’t miss anything cool if I skip one day of class”.
What we did the day I skipped:
Necessity is the mother of all inventions!😊
What you did was illegal!.....actually we need that design so it's not illegal anymore!
In 2018 I had a chance to visit Vukovar and Osijek. I understood that day why the US government does their best to never let threats reach our shores and why we try to fight our wars overseas where possible. You never ever want such horrors to occur in your land where it can be prevented or forestalled.
With respect, but even a full Yugoslav victory wouldn't have endangered the US one bit.
@@djdjukic you mean a full Serb victory. Yugoslavia was as dead as yesterday by that point. Also, the US did not really want to intervene. It was the rest of NATO that made that decision, mainly because the IJA was targeting civilians,particularly women.
@@davidtuttle7556 I'm not going to argue names or war crimes, I'm just saying it all had nothing to do with protecting the US. NATO wasn't in any danger either.
@@djdjukic I won’t either. That war was dirty as hell on all sides. But for whatever reason the European members of NATO decided it was our fight, though I disagree with that decision and agree with you. But sometimes when your friends and family get into a spot, you have do bite your tongue and support them, wrongheaded and foolish though they may be. That said, whomever made the decision to shoot UN Peacekeepers who were simply distributing food and medicines, that person was a total fkboy.
@@davidtuttle7556 That's fair enough. Have a nice day.
What are your 3 favorite Yugoslavian Weapons ? ( from any time period )
i like the Zastava M44 B-2 (Partizan SMG WW2 ), Zastava M77B1 Rifle & Zastava M56 SMG.
I’m loving these wacky Croatian subguns
I don’t think Ian mentioned the caliber it’s in. I looked it up and it’s 9x19mm. I thought it would have been in the Tokarev or Makarov round
Wellcome to Croatia, Ian!!!
"Mom can we have Owen SMG"
"We have Owen SMG at home"
*The Owen SMG at home*
Videos like these give me peace of mind as an Australian. Knowing that when shit really hits the fan our draconian laws will go by the way side.
As an American who always admired the Australian people, I hope you guys can get your gun rights back someday. It's shameful what your government has done to you. No one on this earth should be disarmed by their government when they've done nothing wrong.
@@randomappalachian4635 I blame the commies. If it wasn't for them bitching the USA wanted to add disarming the population as a definition of genocide. The USSR refused coz, well already disarmed and oppressing our people.
@@randomappalachian4635They never had gun rights, it was just gun privileges. That's why they were able to take them with a stroke of the pen and a proclamation.
The Democrats would do the same to us if we didn't have the constitutional right. They would take that and definitely freedom of speech if it weren't for the Bill of Rights. The Democrats hate the 1st and 2nd amendments with a passion.
I wonder how many people in Australia sealed up and buried their guns in the back yard after they banned them? Hopefully thousands.
stockpile ammo ready for the day.
Coming soon from Headstamp publisher: SUBMACHINEGUNS OF THE CROATIAN HOMELAND WAR
maybe ;)
but not just submachine guns
and not just the homeland war :P
tuning in... hehe that says a lot about a man. I like it :)
4:08 there sure is a locking mechanism there Ian. There is a hole in the bottom part of the folding stocks fastening. Im pretty sure that goes through that part and there is a indentation on the corresponding part of the fastener to hold a spring loaded pin or a simple push lock pin. :) It is not functional but there was a clear intent for a locking mechanism for the stock sir.
I just love these home built firearms!
can you imagine the multiple generations of high school kids that would have loved to make a submachine gun in metal shop
"Krvolok" can be translated as "Bloodsucker", but more of the vampire than mosquito kind. :)
Regarding "Prvi posavski krvolok". :D In literal translation, "krvolok" in former Yugoslav languages means "blood drinker" or "blood sucker", if you will.
"Krv" == blood
"Lok" == extracted from verb "lokati" which is an expression/verb for describing "drinking excessively (usually alcohol) with an accompanying 'gurgling' kind of sound".
But to give it more meaning in the context I would translate it "The First Posavian Slayer"
Considering that this was before the internet it's surprising that they knew how PPSh and MP40 were built and operated. It's not something you would normally have access to. There's something missing in this story.
And from a soldier's point of view it's so weird to have coupled magazines facing in opposite directions (cause the bottom part would be in the dirt). You could just use 2 empty cartridges' as spacers and have them parallel or use one cartridge and have them at a narrow v shape (with ductape). We used to use live rounds as spacers back in the day, until you buy yourself a tsolevet or two. You do want coupled magazines, though. Always. For the initial engagement it makes a lot of difference. I'm really surprised you never see them in the US. It would really help in the competitive shooting matches that you do over here.
Having couple magazines face in the opposite direction is probably the most common way it’s done.
It’s not down in commotion shooting because there’s no real need to.
@@baneofbanes Dude it saves several seconds on reloading. Plus much easier to carry. But you don't want your feeding lips facing the sand and dirt.. I think other than the common V shape like in ARs, AKs, Galils etc, the weirdest is in Tavor - STANAG mags face in opposite directions, because it's a bullpup. The original Uzi tsolevet is in an L shape ("tslav" means a cross), so you can't put it into a pouch of any kind.
what is missing in your story is that during the cold war in Yugoslavia, all children in school had a subject: national self-defense, where we learned to shoot and prepare for self-defense in case of war, but the state did not provide for these needs modern weapons for that time, type AK47, were used by men in the regular army, while for general national self-defense we had old weapons from the Second World War that the army no longer needed. so everyone at that time knew very well who works pps mauser etc. and if you didn't know you could literally take one from school and copy it.
That first protypes barrel looks like a gear shaft or something? Like those steps might have gears pressed onto them
Great video and very informative.
Krvolok is bloodsucker. It's a noun, not an adjective. The adjective form would be krvoločan.
So it's the First Sava Bloodsucker.
Sava being a big river that runs through Croatia and neighboring nations and flowing into the Danube.
Its cool how the lower reciever looks exactly like a mauser c96
This is truly a forgotten weapon !!
Thank you for your videos.
I winked love to see a video on the situation in Myanmar and the role the FGC9 is playing.
Make gun = prison
Make gun for government = no prison
Very fair
Quite right
Tribes->kingdoms->empires->governments - the base rule is always the same: if you want to stay on its territory you accept the rules or you get out
@@Diego-m3g6g or you change the rules.
Reminds me a lot of an M1938 Labora Fontbernat, think you'd ever do a video on one?
"Student-made SMG"
Meanwhile, the rest of us just had to make do with writing thesis papers and whatnot.
making a gun in shop class, our older kids were able to make knives, but can not even do that anymore
This looks like it would be totally usable for close range work. It's nice and compact and probably easy to maintain. It's incredible how simple you can make an automatic weapon. This is why gun bans will not work if you have a lot of people who really want to acquire them.
Of course in Croatia in 1991 it was in effect legal to make make homemade guns - the authorities even encouraged it. Makes a lot of difference.
@@perolavhavik2585.... and now these guns are where ?? taken by the police for museum and scrap metal perhaps ... ??
I guess that's the case for many of those guns. Those Homeland War weapons are very interesting.
I also want to remind everyone that there are countries where guns are more or less banned. Among them are some of the most free countries in the world, crime is low and the bans work.
@@perolavhavik2585 But why would you sacrifice yourself for politicians who would disarm and thereby disempower you once their purpose was achieved. No politician is worth that.
How truly free are the people when forcibly disarmed ? I think the Americans have this correctly calculated.
@@causewaykayak If you think your guns make you free from the government, try not paying taxes and see how that works out for you.
Guns are a coping mechanism, not a "freedom tool". A gun fight between you and your buddies against the government forces only has one outcome, proven by anyone who ever tried it ever.
Guns in the general population just result in more civilian deaths. When we had a fuck ton of them circling around in Croatia, every small gang got into a shootout sooner or later. Since most of them were gone, gun related crimes became a statistical anomaly. We are currently one of the safest places on Earth. I also don't have to worry about my health insurance or my pension fund, my college was 100% free and i can travel, work or even live anywhere in Europe i want without even a border check. You Americans have talked yourself into thinking only you have freedom, while you don't really even understand the meaning of the word any more. I leave my apartment doors unlocked and the car running when i go to the store in the 7th largest town in the country. My 12 year old niece walks around alone after dark without anyone even blinking about it. You sleep clinging to your gun. Who's the free one?
And i'm saying that from experience, as someone who's lived on the front lines of that war as a kid (a real one, not just a culture war you are "fighting" but an actual battle for survival, against a genocidal foe who wanted our nation dead and/or wiped out from the map) and actually have a gun permit. Sure, you can arm a lot of people with small arms in the case of a war, but then you soon find out that you're still royally fucked without heavy machine guns, AA and AT missiles or modern armor. Naked infantry in modern warfare is mostly minced meat that doesn't know it yet. And without the level of organization, funding and equipment of a government, you stand no chance against one at all. Don't be fooled by insurgents in your Middle East adventures - you love life too much for that level of desperation, you won't be strapping bombs on your bodies or sending your underage children on the front lines of a conflict with government troops. That also means that you can't win unless the wast majority of you thinks the same way which is simply not the case since you are deeply divided.
You are a slave to the machine who's been given access to shooting toys to make you calm while they slowly shift your very notion of freedom in a way that can't be solved with bullets. You have been played and you can't even se it.
Honestly, It looks pretty sweet I like it
"Meister" in an industrial context means "foreman". Probably the designer was a factory foreman at that time.
Master craftsman
Majstor generally means a blue collar worker in Croatian,people call pretty much any machinist, mechanic, electrician, construction worker, plumber, etc. a majstor.
@@ZP1993 Really *any* or just skilled workers, like it would be in German (where this word obviously comes from).
@@peterstadlmaier3107 Even though it should mean a skilled worker,people tend to call any worker majstor,I guess out of respect.
@@ZP1993 not only respect, you can hear that when you are on the way of someone, or someone just wants your attention.
The Alar subgun....I like that....sort of like the Luty subgun from the Great Welsh Troubles....
I sort of just assumed this was made in like the 50s until you showed the date on the side
Ian, definitely need to do that Headstamp book "SMG's of the Resistance"
I hate how good these "Homemade" firearms always look.
Why do they look and work better than modern ones!?
Jokes asidr, I think one of the reasons is because these ones are the homemades that survive long enough, or work well enough to be used.
There are Bubba's in the history too, just not worth to keep around, or documenting, or placed in museums. Internet just let us see current day Bubba's work.
@@WingMaster562 Fair enough
Ian in Croatia=kid in toy store
Love you Ian
i like the morning upload schedule . good way to start the day . good stuff as always from Ian
Thank you , Ian .
🐺 Loupis Canis .
Looks like a good little blow back smg, but i would be a little hesitant about using a hand made gun with a screw on end cap and a split tube. Seems little sketchy
So whats the deal with the MP40 mags are they OG German or repos?
So they were 50 years old at that point?
I enjoy your videos and just saw the short on the Russian 1895 Winchester. Is there a full video on this rifle or just the short. I have one in good shape that I picked up in a pawnshop a long time ago for $40. A full video on it should be interesting. Thank you for all you do. Richard
Looks like the love child of a mp 40 and a sten