this is basically nonsense. the busses are just being replaced to meet emission targets and it will take years. Nothing to do with faults with the busses.
I never said they are being replaced for a fault, the video clearly says they will be replaced for meeting emission targets. The fact about lack of A/C is just a historical fact.
@Btt8 And when the 'miracle' electric busses come, as surely they will, maybe you should call them Asthma Boy busses. Please note, I think electric busses are fundamentally a good idea, it's just that current weaknesses in the overall technology package are being deliberately ignored, as politicians tend to do when they are spending somebody else's money.
@@pingumcping aww bless you, really didn’t get the point at all did ya. Too busy trying to get one up on a complete stranger. Maybe think on it some more. Good luck
These did not directly replace Routemasters, they replaced other non-ULEZ compliant busses. Also, they're not being replaced any time soon as they're now undergoing mid-life refurbishments. Stop spreading misinformation.
Oh my gosh guys, I think no one here did their research. In 2008, Boris Johnson promised he would get rid of all bendy buses, so he ordered these New Routemasters to replace (most of) them. The old AEC Routemasters were replaced by Bendy Buses in 2005 I believe.
It's not true. The older gas guzzling and more polluting busses will be removed first. The hybrid Boris buses will probably be among the last to replaced and may still be being used in a decade
If they do replace these buses they'll end up in fleets elsewhere in the country that don't have a large budget for modern less polluting buses so won't work out that bad actually
the gases produced from these buses are a major factor in air pollution related health problems such as a asthma. if these buses are scrapped many of the raw materials and especially high carbon materials will be recycled because there valuable. if these buses go to serve elsewhere there is still air pollution benefits for london because the extreme population density that is unique to london and the largest uk cities.
I used to drive route masters and they were a pleasure to drive,pleasure to ride and pleasure to conduct. Never had a problem with difficult customers that we could not handle
This is absolute nonsense, The RM's were replaced by bendies (which got replaced with these as Boris hated them) these new New Routemasters replaced the bendy, Plus it wont take 7 years to find a replacement.
the bendy buses were not suitable for London roads and people could easily not pay to use them, so they were loosing money. Ken Livingstone introduced them
So replacing British built buses with battery electric buses built in China and shipped half way round the world is apparently the green thing to do. How long will a BYD bus last do you think?
Chinese buses look great from outside when they are new; as soon as you get in, you feel That everything is rattling and shaking and the interior finishing looks like from Fisher-Price.
@@BeingEmilie In London’s case it could be different, since it’s a joint venture between Alexander Dennis and BYD, so they will hopefully be of good quality
@@nicholasboncardo I have no doubt in ADs quality. I just hope they hold BYD to their battery quality promises but I'm not holding my breath. Its all new at the moment so in time we will have a better idea
Designing integral AC into public vehicles with sealed windows is probably cheaper than lugging around the extra weight of opening windows for the life of the vehicle. Too bad they didn't look into that when these were still on the drawing board.
Many present day buses do seem to get uncomfortably hot during warm sunny weather. I took a ride on an old RT during a hot spell last summer & it was so cool (in every respect!) The wind-down windows & open platform meant a cooling breeze was blowing through the whole bus as soon as it picked up speed.
@@goffthomas2554 the old London Transport buses like RT’s, RTL’s, RTW’s & RM’s all used to have quarter drop or one third drop wind down windows, as I think the whole LT fleet did back in the 1930’s through to the 1960’s
That's mostly because london is much hotter then it was about 20+ years ago, but also the new routemaster is a shit design that should have never left the drawing board
The Boris Busses are by far the nicest busses to ride on. They’re so cosy on a cold night with their recessed lighting and little seating areas downstairs
These buses are unbearable to travel almost on any day of the year. I just realized that often I was getting home extra tired just because of the green house effect. Why are they designed without fresh air ducts in first place?! And why could they not be retrofitted with a different air conditioning system?
you realise buses dont have a super long working life like trains do right? I dont know what the typical lifetime of UK City buses are but here in Germany it is typically less than 10 years, in Australia it is 12-14 so similar to these buses. And that is if you are ignoring legal imperatives to reduce emissions and meet accessability requirements...
Electric buses are exceptionally fuel-efficient compared to diesel buses. And electric motors are a lot easier to maintain than diesel engines because there are a lot fewer moving parts. They’re not light, sure, but that doesn’t matter because they have an order of magnitude more horsepower than was possible in the 1960s. Your comment is wrong and deliberately disingenuous.
@@AutoGamerZ_ It seems I'm talking about something you're unfamiliar with, or at least not admitting to. The new diesel-electric Routemaster weighs nearly fourteen short tons, while the Routemaster 8 weighs approximately eight short tons, making the new diesel-electric Routemaster nearly twice as heavy as the old RM8. Because English roads and roads elsewhere on Planet Earth are designed to bear considerably more weight than expected, it does not mean they will not experience more wear and tear by being pounded by heavier battery-operated vehicles. Introductory physics will teach you that.
@@yindee372One of the London buses I travelled on yesterday was powered by a hydrogen fuel cell, according to the publicity on the outside, and it's based at the Perivale garage, according to the publicity inside. I don't know whether the fuel cell produces electricity continuously or whether it intermittently charges a battery but it's good that alternative approaches are being explored.
@@yindee372 It matters that they are not light as they will do more damage to the roads, with all the costs and emissions of repairing them. Volvo elec car cars take 4 times more energy to produce than ICE cars, so this can be transferred to the buses. Then there are the issues scrapping them and recycling the batteries. They have less moving parts than an ICE, but when it comes to repairing them, they are extremely dangerous, and when they do go wrong, they are extremely expensive. Then there is the all the so called green energy that will be needed to power them.
The Routemasters aren’t being replaced for another good few years. Some operators are doing work to refurbish them, give them a higher-standard engine etc. Plus, Sadiq Khan isn’t the guy who dictates what buses are used in London, that’s TfL’s and the route operators’ jobs. As a side note the NB4Ls didn’t replace the old Routemasters directly, they were intended to replace buses which didn’t meet the ULEZ standards.
@@UrbanStories Yes, however it’s not likely that all the diesel or partially diesel powered buses will be fully replaced by then. Besides, older buses can be retrofitted to use electric motors - the NB4L already does this, as it only uses its engine to generate electricity for these motors. It’s essentially an electric bus that has its own onboard generator.
Busses nowadays are only kept for an average of 12-16 years and then they are replaced. It’s standard here in North America as well. Most cities here are also replacing retired diesel vehicles with clean energy alternatives.
NHS funding at an all time high and it just keeps getting worse.... It's a money pit, it doesn't matter how much money you shovel down its hungry maw it will never be enough.
This video just isn’t accurate. The buses are reaching the end of the intended service London life and tech has moved on substantially. I’m curious which other cities will scoop them up as they come out the service. No one in London calls then a Boris Bus. The ‘bendy buses’ are more likely to be called a ‘boris bus’ but even then that’s rare.
To ShaneHorkin No. The old buses went on for years. What happened since then, is they got sold on to Hong Kong, and replaced with new ones, to minimise depreciation
@@nygelmiller5293 Not many second hand UK buses were sold to HK for public service. In fact it is more of the opposite, in the 1990s some old HK buses (such as the tri-axle Leyland Olympians) were re imported back to the UK for mostly coach/school bus work as they have high capacity and are air conditioned (Megabus once had a lot and they got sold on to other smaller operators afterwards)
Luton arriva commonly keep buses for 20 years or beyond until this year they still had W reg tridents, 23/24 years old. They can last if well serviced properly
I don't believe this but those busses look great and I love the layout the heat problem is real but the same thing goes for the other busses my biggest problem is on the top floor the leg space is a bit tight but maybe it's just me as Im quite tall...?
the huge, heavy and toxic battery packs for huge EVs like buses mean the "emissions reduction" argument is thrown out of the window! that is even b4 factoring in the infrastructure needed (more $$) to support them! e-bike can burn viciously and take out entire flats/shops i shudder to think what a 150-200++ kwh pack could do when it burns!
@@JoeEbitDa everyone in country who can’t vote in London election think it buddy shut up watch what happen when they roll out ulez across the country 😂 plus he allowed London to become a joke 0 regents/Oxford flags up for d-day but “oh let’s celebrate a whole month of pride” more and more crime
Surely 'Boris buses' were the awful bendy buses that Johnson introduced, that were totally unsuitable for London's streets. Nobody I know refers to the new routemasters as 'Boris Buses'!
The original AEC Routemaster was used as the standard London bus type, with a rear open platform and crewed by both a driver and conductor. After half a century it was withdrawn from service at the end of 2005 (except for two heritage routes), in favour of a fully accessible one-man-operated modern fleet (including articulated buses), none of which featured a rear open platform. The withdrawal of the Routemaster became an issue during the 2008 London mayoral election with Boris Johnson elected mayor with a campaign pledge to introduce a new Routemaster... The Boris Bus replaced the articulated buses predominantly as the majority of route masters had already been removed from non heritage routes prior to the Boris Bus entering service
The electric bikes were called Boris bikes, not the busses! I'd say 12 years of service is good going, and it's normal for them to be replaced with electric or hydrogen alternatives. UK is way behind compared to the rest of Europe. Besides, it's a great hypocrisy running these busses in London, whereas other vehicles have to pay eye watering ULEZ charges if they don't meet the emissions threshold.
Sadie khan using poor people ulez tax to pay for new buses that we don’t need to change yet whilst everyone else in the country has crappy public transport this guy needs to be jailed
He isn't. These buses are being run until the end of life or the 2030 ZE deadline if they don't get retrofitted. Khan honestly doesnt care about new route masters. What he does care about is 2030 ZE target and budget.
Diesel buses typically have an economic lifespan of about 12-15 years. The boris buses are slated to continue service till 2030 (with extra funding) or 2034 (without extra funding), which is when zero-emission requirements forces TFL's hand. If they make 2030, the buses will be 13-19 years old. If they make 2034, they'll be 17-23 years old. In either case, they will not be replaced unusually early. Khan is also not responsible for the crappy public transport in the rest of the country. Direct that anger to the national government: They're responsible for the current terrible funding & responsibility systems for public transport.
Trolly busses like they have in eastern Europe might have been a better option, as they are powered using overhead cables, but can also have an engine for where there are no power cables.
@Mjbeswick trolly busses are old tech we used to use in the uk decades ago. Why on earth would the uk want to regress and end up a backwards place like Eastern Europe?
You overlooked something. What about the ken bendy bus. These replaced routemasters around 2000. They were great and so disabled, elderly, pushchair friendly. Ok so there were problems with passenger honesty but they worked so well and people could get on and of them dead quick. If course the vicious ultra right wing media in the Uk hated everything ken did. London sold them on to other cities who were glad to take them.
Trolly busses like they have in eastern Europe might have been a better option, as they are powered using overhead cables, but can also have an engine for where there are no power cables. They are also articulated like trams.
Those buses were involved in many traffic collisions due to the size of the bus not being suitable for the streets of London. They could have tried to accomodate the buses with new routes to mitigate that, but its like putting a plaster on instead of treating the wound and dressing it properly.
The bendy buses weren’t even good for many of the routes they were deemed suitable for, let alone the whole of London - the length meant they frequently got stuck across junctions - does nobody else remember the massive gridlocks in the mid 2000s at places like Cambridge Circus, when they were brought in on the 38? Our streets in central London are narrow and medieval in layout compared to many European cities. And they most certainly were not friendly for the elderly or actually, many people with disabilities, just because they were single deck and had level access for wheelchairs - the number of standing passengers and dire lack of seats made them a poor replacement for the Routemasters (with a conductor to make sure that elderly people, those with limited mobility or blind people got on and sat down before the bus moved. On the bendies I’m sure the driver couldn’t even see where they had gone)! They’re ok for moving lots of able bodied people quickly over a short distance so quite suitable for airport car park shuttles etc.
Can confirm, these buses were unbearable in summer. There were no windows opening at the front of the bus on the top deck (I'd say at least 5 rows in). They looked great from the outside, but were really cramped and uncomfortable inside.
Yeah, but only here in the west do those poeple have the balls to demand one thing after another, which they wouldn't dare to do in their country of origin.
@@jimtaylor294 Don't confuse a type being in use for decades with an individual bus lasting for decades. They simply don't. particularly not in highly demanding city centre usage. After a decade one of these buses can easily have half a million miles on it, and 50,000 hours on the engine, running gear and chassis. Yes at that point they can do some more service in less demanding roles away from cities, but they are already basically scrap.
@@jimtaylor294 Disagree all you like. It doesn't change reality. The average London bus does about 40,000 miles a year. 12 years of that is a vehicle lifetime.
Our access to better computational tools than the slide ruler has falsely convinced us that we do not need as great a margin of error as we used to have, so it's simply becoming more common for the tightly calculated designs to just be a shy short of what's actually needed. That plus it takes a few generations of a new design before such shortcomings are addressed, just look at the US dusasterous efforts to federally fund new modern buses back in the 70's.
@@timpedder6046 I was born in 99 and lived in central london till I was in my 20’s and have only have seen them for special occasions or as party busses
Extended Bodies for Most of the Buses Much as I am not comfortable asking the depot why they stopped running the London Suburban Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW’s on routes 30, 121, 230, 313, 271, 349, N279 And 158 why can’t we make the same make of the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Buses but Modernise the insides of these Buses. Also, make it low floor up and down and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more so there will be more space for the wheelchair users. By the way, if you could remake and Modernise these vehicles could they also make them into a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Version that if it will be possible to Modernise the insides of these Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW’s make it low floor up and down and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more so there will be more space and even a London Suburban 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMCs and 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX Diesel engine Enviro 400 MMC’s and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more. Why couldn’t we have those London Suburban Buse's Pale red on the top roof Pale red again on the top middle Milk Chocolate brown on the middle Creamy white on the Bottom Middle and Milk Chocolate Brown again on the Bottom on most of those kinds of Particular Double Decker Vehicles? Could you put the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox in the Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMCs and also put the Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox in the Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more and also turn most of them into London Suburban Buses. By the way, could you also make the routes 313, 349, 230, 121, N279 and 271 into London Suburban Buses and have a mixture of a Loud 4-speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Versions. Could they also transfer the Arriva Bus Depots from Hackney to Stagecoach company so they can replace all the Arriva buses so that all of them can go to Birmingham and Leeds and they can be replaced by Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the Middle body part of these Vehicles and that includes A Mixture of a Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Engine Northern Counties Palatine One and that Includes a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX Diesel engine Enviro 400 MMC’s and Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles A Little Bit More? Can Arriva London Bus Company Replace Most of their Wight Buses so they can also transfer them to Birmingham and Also Manchester so they can be replaced by Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the middle body part of these Vehicles A Little Bit More Thank You Very Very Very Very Much. Oh by the way could the bus Factory Companies also Make More of Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles And that also includes Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC And also Extend The middle Body part of those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and that also includes The Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus A Little Bit More And Paint Those 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and that also includes The Northern Counties Palatine One with a Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Diesel engines with a Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearboxes and The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX Diesel engine Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles to the Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on the Bus Route 125, 173, 313 and the 103. If all of the 14 Leyland Titan B15s are Fully Red and even Mostly Red, could they also Repaint All of Those 14 Leyland Titan B15s into Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on Bus Route 313 so they can Reuse them for Only Every Seven and a Half Months and also Reuse them on those Rail Replacement London Bus Routes if that will Be Alright for Only Just Every Seven and a Half Months, starting from the beginning of October and also Reuse Those Buses Only on the London Bus Routes which are 341, N41, 34, 123, N29, 149, 221, N73, 121, 86, 30, 262, 147, 396, 41, and N26 so Please make sure that the builders can do as they are told!!!!!!! And please do something about these Very Very Very Important Professional Ideas Pretty Please Prime Minister and also includes the Mayor of London.
@EdwardOberon did a lot less damage than Major and Blair achieved during their tenure. Brown at least tried to make up for the damage he did. Also its telling you missed off Clegg who was in joint control from 2010 to 2015.
To be honest im quite fond of these busses, they do have quite a powerful visual identity to them and i wouldn't say that they are noticably much worse performance wise than the more normal double deckers you see on the street. It would be a shame to see them go after such a short ammount of time
When the battery busses start catching fire like a Ford Pinto, they will say that there is nothing they can do. We already had the technology almost 100 years ago, a trolley bus, it's light and is unlikely to cause a long lasting fire, and would be much lighter, causing less damage to the streets.
Just curious, why is it that the mayor of London as well as the PM are both Indian? I know there’s a huge presence of foreigners in the UK, not to mention the recent PM of Scotland is also of foreign descent, it just seems curious to me that so many positions of power are held by them and am just wondering if someone can explain it to this American?
There are people of Indian descent in the UK, some of them wanted to be politicians, some of them were elected. It's the same reason why there are people of British descent who are politicians in the US.
@@jimtaylor294 It wasn't Khan who pushed all the lower skilled workers out of London and sent the cost of living in London through the roof. What happens is the elitist, establishment globalists, like Farage and Johnson, pretend that it is the fault of say the immigrant when it is actually their plundering of your tax dollars. By voting these overlords back in, time and time again, many Brits are the equivalent of trees voting for the axe.
London doesn’t run homogeneous bus fleets. There’s a mix of models in service at any one time. The idea that the routemaster was the main London bus from 1950s to 2000s is completely wrong.
Up until 1970 there were only RM & RT in terms of double deckers. The awful Fleetline opo vehicles arrived (8 fleetlines went to London Country in the mid 60s for evaluation). In the late 70s MCW & Leyland titans joined the fleet, a couple of Volvos were used for evaluation in the early 80s (at least one ran on the 77/77a route crew operated. So while in more recent years there has been a very mixed fleet in London this wasn’t always the case. It should also be noted that from the early 70s onwards there was a bias towards RM operation in routes covering the “central area” because of dwell times at stops. I think the longevity of the RM proved the wisdom of the operator designing and building a vehicle to cope with London, but the mess tendering left us with has reduced a great service to a patchwork mess run by short life vehicles
We should never have abolished bendy buses: they are used on the continent to great effect. But our upper middle class rulers become paranoid at the thought of even one passenger getting away with not paying and outlawed them. Disgraceful !
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this is basically nonsense. the busses are just being replaced to meet emission targets and it will take years. Nothing to do with faults with the busses.
I never said they are being replaced for a fault, the video clearly says they will be replaced for meeting emission targets. The fact about lack of A/C is just a historical fact.
It's deliberately misleading and therefore clickbait.
Yeah. Battery retrofit possibilities mean they might not go anywhere at all so this is just clickbait unfortunately.
You can call any intriguing headline a clickbait then, doesn't make it less true, maybe google it?
@@UrbanStories if it were true rather than just a maybe possibility I wouldn’t have commented.
The UK had electric buses in the 1950's. They were called trolley buses.
And they had Trams from 1860 to 1952.
@@eggballo4490 Light rail and trams are supreme
Tilling Stevens petrol electric in 1922. A hybrid!
BuT tHiS eLeCtRiC bUs hAs nO WiReS
Yeah and the power poles endlessly came off the overhead cables!
Not a single person in London calls them boris buses
Some bus enthusiasts do or did
@@leylandlynxvlog a bus enthusiast would call them the correct name
^ Nah. We call them whatever we damn well please 😝
@@Btt8This where you’re wrong
@Btt8 And when the 'miracle' electric busses come, as surely they will, maybe you should call them Asthma Boy busses. Please note, I think electric busses are fundamentally a good idea, it's just that current weaknesses in the overall technology package are being deliberately ignored, as politicians tend to do when they are spending somebody else's money.
Oh wow, all London buses to be electric. A bit like the massive electric tram line system we had over a century ago?!?!?
A bit like that, except without rails. Or overhead power wires. Or any of the limitations that those things impose... so not really like that at all.
@@pingumcping aww bless you, really didn’t get the point at all did ya. Too busy trying to get one up on a complete stranger. Maybe think on it some more. Good luck
... but with the electricity generated from wind and solar, not coal.
A mixture of both would be good. Cable powered trams reduce the need for batteries
Oh but the electrified tram system threatens the profits of the motor industry. Can’t have that now, can we?
Too much of misinformation in this video
it is US propaganda after all
Way too much misinformation on social media platforms...
Ok Mohamed !
@@stirlingmoss4621?
Ai videos
These did not directly replace Routemasters, they replaced other non-ULEZ compliant busses. Also, they're not being replaced any time soon as they're now undergoing mid-life refurbishments. Stop spreading misinformation.
I suggest you read the news instead of trusting random comments
How did they replace non- ULEZ compliant buses in 2012?
@@DaChaGee Old buses in general, that were not 'green'
Oh my gosh guys, I think no one here did their research. In 2008, Boris Johnson promised he would get rid of all bendy buses, so he ordered these New Routemasters to replace (most of) them. The old AEC Routemasters were replaced by Bendy Buses in 2005 I believe.
@@LondonEmergency999 No they didn't. It was just a fleet renewal and the newer vehicles tend to be greener.
I remember riding the old Routemasters. Fond memories.
conductors - 5p and 10p fares
I remember the RT's too.
That jump you made as the bus was leaving. 😁
Route master bus got you there. 90,000 mile service. Modern bus can’t get to 42,000 without breaking down
Literally No one calls them Boris Buses 😂
Except Boris ..
Lived in London for 10 years and never heard the words "Boris bus" in my entire life, until 2 minutes ago! 😂
Correct. They were called "Borismasters".
@@lloydpenfold486 No no, "Routejohnsons"
Literally incorrect.
Not sure how replacing all these buses is good for the environment … a lot of waste in materials and energy to produce, can you not retrofit them
By introducing new buses he can do corruption as a london mayor.Great idea
It's not true. The older gas guzzling and more polluting busses will be removed first. The hybrid Boris buses will probably be among the last to replaced and may still be being used in a decade
If they do replace these buses they'll end up in fleets elsewhere in the country that don't have a large budget for modern less polluting buses so won't work out that bad actually
I think it's very unlikely that any other operators will be interested in using them when London gets rid of them.
the gases produced from these buses are a major factor in air pollution related health problems such as a asthma. if these buses are scrapped many of the raw materials and especially high carbon materials will be recycled because there valuable. if these buses go to serve elsewhere there is still air pollution benefits for london because the extreme population density that is unique to london and the largest uk cities.
I used to drive route masters and they were a pleasure to drive,pleasure to ride and pleasure to conduct. Never had a problem with difficult customers that we could not handle
This is absolute nonsense, The RM's were replaced by bendies (which got replaced with these as Boris hated them) these new New Routemasters replaced the bendy, Plus it wont take 7 years to find a replacement.
Wasn't a case of not liking the bendy busses, they were very unreliable and dangerous to other road users.
the bendy buses were not suitable for London roads and people could easily not pay to use them, so they were loosing money. Ken Livingstone introduced them
The bendies were unreliable and got stuck.
£218 million in unpaid fines, good look with that one.
Yup. ULEZ is almost as much of a joke as the far left & racist mayor that introduced it.
@rolsta2871 Don't you mean £218 m in shakedown money that Sadiq's thugs have yet to collect?
So replacing British built buses with battery electric buses built in China and shipped half way round the world is apparently the green thing to do. How long will a BYD bus last do you think?
Chinese buses look great from outside when they are new; as soon as you get in, you feel
That everything is rattling and shaking and the interior finishing looks like from Fisher-Price.
Not as long as byd promise
@@BeingEmilie In London’s case it could be different, since it’s a joint venture between Alexander Dennis and BYD, so they will hopefully be of good quality
@@nicholasboncardo I have no doubt in ADs quality. I just hope they hold BYD to their battery quality promises but I'm not holding my breath. Its all new at the moment so in time we will have a better idea
They are £100,000 each cheaper. that's why they are Chinese.
What a joke, in Lisbon 20 years ago AC was fitted to every BUS. Because openning the window is so 1990's!
And Lisbon is generally somewhat warmer than London, being about 12 degrees further south. Air con makes sense in Lisbon, no so much in London...
the nbfl has AC...
It is a joke. The whole clip is nonsense.
Ah, but this is England where even on a road meltingly hot day, _someone_ will complain because they can feel a draught.
Designing integral AC into public vehicles with sealed windows is probably cheaper than lugging around the extra weight of opening windows for the life of the vehicle. Too bad they didn't look into that when these were still on the drawing board.
They could have been air conditioned but Khan didn’t do it.
You think he makes those decisions? Curious.
@@RichardFraser-y9tyou think he doesn’t at least have a say. Interesting
It was not his project, so at what point would he get a chance to add air conditioning?
They where designed and introduced by Boris only way to add Aircon would be a huge retro fit costing a shit ton
They’re being refurbished, not scrapped. This video is ragebait
Many present day buses do seem to get uncomfortably hot during warm sunny weather. I took a ride on an old RT during a hot spell last summer & it was so cool (in every respect!) The wind-down windows & open platform meant a cooling breeze was blowing through the whole bus as soon as it picked up speed.
What wind down windows? I have never seen them on any bus!
@@goffthomas2554 the old London Transport buses like RT’s, RTL’s, RTW’s & RM’s all used to have quarter drop or one third drop wind down windows, as I think the whole LT fleet did back in the 1930’s through to the 1960’s
Just enjoy the sauna experience. On a good day, it's better than the Bakerloo line!
That's mostly because london is much hotter then it was about 20+ years ago, but also the new routemaster is a shit design that should have never left the drawing board
it's crazy how well they aged, they still look modern !
I rode them last summer and had zero issues, when was the last time Sadiq even set foot in public transport?
While Sadiq Khan is transported around in a Range Rover!🤔
Don't do as I do, do as I say typical hypracrit
Do you expect him to catch the bus?
I miss the old routemasters. Memories of hopping on and off them in slow traffic hurrying to school.
If only Sadiq Khan could be taken off the streets.
People of London had a chance to oust him the other month, yet they voted for him again
People of London want him as mayor.
A lot of people are too lazy to vote. That's the problem in London.
@@Bitcoin_King-kn8tr I know people who didn’t want him in, but loads didn’t vote . So don’t complain if you couldn’t be bothered.
@@Bitcoin_King-kn8trimmigrants of London
As I'm from the Midlands , shame they'll be taken off the streets, they're newly iconic, could have converted to electric
Bring Back the Routemaster Bring it Back
People in wheelchairs can't use them!
The are dangerous, require a conductor, are highly polluting, inaccessible to wheelchair uses, cramped and slow.
True But there strong old Girls last For years
@@chrisheaps7975sounds like the negatives far outweigh the positives though
They already have wheels 😏@@paulblake1164
The Boris Busses are by far the nicest busses to ride on. They’re so cosy on a cold night with their recessed lighting and little seating areas downstairs
It's got f all to do with taking Boris buses off the road. This is American BS
Agree the buses get hot but they are really quite good looking.. I love the wrap around windows and the back exit is useful too.
Best looking buses, wish the Berlin fleet had similar unique styling
These buses are unbearable to travel almost on any day of the year. I just realized that often I was getting home extra tired just because of the green house effect. Why are they designed without fresh air ducts in first place?! And why could they not be retrofitted with a different air conditioning system?
I’m sure the London taxpayer will love that
Ulez and now hundreds of millions on crappy electric buses
Ever sat near an exhaust of a diesel bus in traffic?
@@JoeEbitDa no I work hard so I can afford to drive a car
@@gabrielgreen580 hahahaha central london is such a wonderful place for a car.
@@gabrielgreen580 so you sit behind a bus then ? 😂
you realise buses dont have a super long working life like trains do right? I dont know what the typical lifetime of UK City buses are but here in Germany it is typically less than 10 years, in Australia it is 12-14 so similar to these buses. And that is if you are ignoring legal imperatives to reduce emissions and meet accessability requirements...
These buses were designed as hybrids but in practice they mostly use the diesel engine.
Maybe they can be retrofitted as all electric buses?
The energy to power AI will be devastating.
A bus that was light , fuel efficient, easy and inexpensive to maintain.
Battery powered buses will be the exact opposite of those things.
Electric buses are exceptionally fuel-efficient compared to diesel buses. And electric motors are a lot easier to maintain than diesel engines because there are a lot fewer moving parts.
They’re not light, sure, but that doesn’t matter because they have an order of magnitude more horsepower than was possible in the 1960s.
Your comment is wrong and deliberately disingenuous.
Can you imagine the damage these extraordinarily heavy buses will do to the roads.
@@AutoGamerZ_ It seems I'm talking about something you're unfamiliar with, or at least not admitting to. The new diesel-electric Routemaster weighs nearly fourteen short tons, while the Routemaster 8 weighs approximately eight short tons, making the new diesel-electric Routemaster nearly twice as heavy as the old RM8. Because English roads and roads elsewhere on Planet Earth are designed to bear considerably more weight than expected, it does not mean they will not experience more wear and tear by being pounded by heavier battery-operated vehicles. Introductory physics will teach you that.
@@yindee372One of the London buses I travelled on yesterday was powered by a hydrogen fuel cell, according to the publicity on the outside, and it's based at the Perivale garage, according to the publicity inside. I don't know whether the fuel cell produces electricity continuously or whether it intermittently charges a battery but it's good that alternative approaches are being explored.
@@yindee372 It matters that they are not light as they will do more damage to the roads, with all the costs and emissions of repairing them. Volvo elec car cars take 4 times more energy to produce than ICE cars, so this can be transferred to the buses. Then there are the issues scrapping them and recycling the batteries. They have less moving parts than an ICE, but when it comes to repairing them, they are extremely dangerous, and when they do go wrong, they are extremely expensive. Then there is the all the so called green energy that will be needed to power them.
The Routemasters aren’t being replaced for another good few years. Some operators are doing work to refurbish them, give them a higher-standard engine etc. Plus, Sadiq Khan isn’t the guy who dictates what buses are used in London, that’s TfL’s and the route operators’ jobs.
As a side note the NB4Ls didn’t replace the old Routemasters directly, they were intended to replace buses which didn’t meet the ULEZ standards.
He said in his action plan that there will be all new buses on the streets by 2030
@@UrbanStories Yes, however it’s not likely that all the diesel or partially diesel powered buses will be fully replaced by then. Besides, older buses can be retrofitted to use electric motors - the NB4L already does this, as it only uses its engine to generate electricity for these motors. It’s essentially an electric bus that has its own onboard generator.
@@UrbanStories Because by law no fuel run cars are allowed to be sold by 2030
Busses nowadays are only kept for an average of 12-16 years and then they are replaced. It’s standard here in North America as well. Most cities here are also replacing retired diesel vehicles with clean energy alternatives.
Replacing busses when the NHS is going down the drain. Welcome to the UK!!!!!
yeh because the TFL budget has absolutely nothing to do with the NHS.
NHS funding at an all time high and it just keeps getting worse.... It's a money pit, it doesn't matter how much money you shovel down its hungry maw it will never be enough.
Both are unfit for purpose money sinks we'd be better off without 😂
TFL =/= UK government
What does TFL has to do with the NHS
This video just isn’t accurate. The buses are reaching the end of the intended service London life and tech has moved on substantially.
I’m curious which other cities will scoop them up as they come out the service.
No one in London calls then a Boris Bus. The ‘bendy buses’ are more likely to be called a ‘boris bus’ but even then that’s rare.
12 years is the life span of a public bus
I was about to say those things must already have millions of miles on it, those things are exhausted😂
To ShaneHorkin
No. The old buses went on for years. What happened since then, is they got sold on to Hong Kong, and replaced with new ones, to minimise depreciation
@@nygelmiller5293 Not many second hand UK buses were sold to HK for public service. In fact it is more of the opposite, in the 1990s some old HK buses (such as the tri-axle Leyland Olympians) were re imported back to the UK for mostly coach/school bus work as they have high capacity and are air conditioned (Megabus once had a lot and they got sold on to other smaller operators afterwards)
Luton arriva commonly keep buses for 20 years or beyond until this year they still had W reg tridents, 23/24 years old. They can last if well serviced properly
I don't believe this but those busses look great and I love the layout the heat problem is real but the same thing goes for the other busses my biggest problem is on the top floor the leg space is a bit tight but maybe it's just me as Im quite tall...?
Money is no problem when you have a licence to steal it from drivers 😡
the huge, heavy and toxic battery packs for huge EVs like buses mean the "emissions reduction" argument is thrown out of the window! that is even b4 factoring in the infrastructure needed (more $$) to support them! e-bike can burn viciously and take out entire flats/shops i shudder to think what a 150-200++ kwh pack could do when it burns!
You are so clueless
It's not the buses what needs to be taken off the streets of London it's Sadiq Khan. he's a proper merchant banker.
Keep your hate to yourself
@@JoeEbitDa everyone in country who can’t vote in London election think it buddy shut up watch what happen when they roll out ulez across the country 😂 plus he allowed London to become a joke 0 regents/Oxford flags up for d-day but “oh let’s celebrate a whole month of pride” more and more crime
^ Says the bot shilling for a racist, antisemitic far left excuse of a mayor 🥱
@@JoeEbitDa
They're just bitter because even Count Binface did better than Britain First.
And then took the piss out of them.
Knife crime has escalated under sadiq Khan its not a nice city anymore.
Surely 'Boris buses' were the awful bendy buses that Johnson introduced, that were totally unsuitable for London's streets. Nobody I know refers to the new routemasters as 'Boris Buses'!
You mean 'were not" ....
The original AEC Routemaster was used as the standard London bus type, with a rear open platform and crewed by both a driver and conductor. After half a century it was withdrawn from service at the end of 2005 (except for two heritage routes), in favour of a fully accessible one-man-operated modern fleet (including articulated buses), none of which featured a rear open platform. The withdrawal of the Routemaster became an issue during the 2008 London mayoral election with Boris Johnson elected mayor with a campaign pledge to introduce a new Routemaster... The Boris Bus replaced the articulated buses predominantly as the majority of route masters had already been removed from non heritage routes prior to the Boris Bus entering service
The electric bikes were called Boris bikes, not the busses! I'd say 12 years of service is good going, and it's normal for them to be replaced with electric or hydrogen alternatives. UK is way behind compared to the rest of Europe. Besides, it's a great hypocrisy running these busses in London, whereas other vehicles have to pay eye watering ULEZ charges if they don't meet the emissions threshold.
They could just rebuild the Boris Busses as well as bring back tram and trolley bus lines all over London.
Problem is the politicians are bought and paid for by the motor lobby.
I feel like a critical piece of information is missing.
Didnt these buses replace the bendy buses that were causing accidents?
Sadie khan using poor people ulez tax to pay for new buses that we don’t need to change yet whilst everyone else in the country has crappy public transport this guy needs to be jailed
He isn't. These buses are being run until the end of life or the 2030 ZE deadline if they don't get retrofitted. Khan honestly doesnt care about new route masters. What he does care about is 2030 ZE target and budget.
^ Khan doesn't "care" about anything, apart from wasting taxpayer money, being overtly racist and lining his own pockets.
Diesel buses typically have an economic lifespan of about 12-15 years. The boris buses are slated to continue service till 2030 (with extra funding) or 2034 (without extra funding), which is when zero-emission requirements forces TFL's hand.
If they make 2030, the buses will be 13-19 years old. If they make 2034, they'll be 17-23 years old. In either case, they will not be replaced unusually early.
Khan is also not responsible for the crappy public transport in the rest of the country. Direct that anger to the national government: They're responsible for the current terrible funding & responsibility systems for public transport.
^ Complete copium 🥱
@@jimtaylor294 lol every fact is "copium" to you isn't it
They haven’t EVER had a bus equivalent to the Routemaster. Excellent bus.
It's crazy to me how people see what he's doing to London and still go along with him
Yes I agree but people just don’t this these days and think they are smarter than anyone in the whole entire world.
The elections were rigged
Because there is more Muslim in London who vote..
@@jolelen6736 He got over a million votes, got mine and I'm a catholic, I guess you have a problem with us as well?
@@JoeEbitDa It is all part and parcel of living in a big city
Perhaps install an AC? In summer time in a hot day, these buses are like a heated moving oven and it stinks.
Typical Labour Mayor, wasting tax payers money again!
How much is this going to cost Londoners?
Khan has wanted rid of the new Routemaster since day 1, he's a horrible man and everyone hates him yet he keeps getting re-elected.
What kind of mo₹on orders non-ac buses without windows that open?
Wasting taxpayers' money now the electric buses are catching fire?
Trolly busses like they have in eastern Europe might have been a better option, as they are powered using overhead cables, but can also have an engine for where there are no power cables.
@Mjbeswick trolly busses are old tech we used to use in the uk decades ago.
Why on earth would the uk want to regress and end up a backwards place like Eastern Europe?
False. They do NOT catch fire. Same with EVs. It's right-wing brainwashing!
Glasgow has BYD ebuses they run well with no issues
This man 😈😈👹😈👹😈 👹😈👹💩
They are such great designs. The 8 used to go right past where I lived, loved seeing them.
You overlooked something. What about the ken bendy bus. These replaced routemasters around 2000. They were great and so disabled, elderly, pushchair friendly. Ok so there were problems with passenger honesty but they worked so well and people could get on and of them dead quick. If course the vicious ultra right wing media in the Uk hated everything ken did. London sold them on to other cities who were glad to take them.
Passenger honesty was affected by the new demographic.
Trolly busses like they have in eastern Europe might have been a better option, as they are powered using overhead cables, but can also have an engine for where there are no power cables. They are also articulated like trams.
Bendy buses were a poor fit for many of London's streets. They could not be used on a lot of routes because of their length.
Those buses were involved in many traffic collisions due to the size of the bus not being suitable for the streets of London. They could have tried to accomodate the buses with new routes to mitigate that, but its like putting a plaster on instead of treating the wound and dressing it properly.
The bendy buses weren’t even good for many of the routes they were deemed suitable for, let alone the whole of London - the length meant they frequently got stuck across junctions - does nobody else remember the massive gridlocks in the mid 2000s at places like Cambridge Circus, when they were brought in on the 38? Our streets in central London are narrow and medieval in layout compared to many European cities. And they most certainly were not friendly for the elderly or actually, many people with disabilities, just because they were single deck and had level access for wheelchairs - the number of standing passengers and dire lack of seats made them a poor replacement for the Routemasters (with a conductor to make sure that elderly people, those with limited mobility or blind people got on and sat down before the bus moved. On the bendies I’m sure the driver couldn’t even see where they had gone)! They’re ok for moving lots of able bodied people quickly over a short distance so quite suitable for airport car park shuttles etc.
Sidiq khan wants every trace of Londons history removed, even the national flag.
Don't blame the bus, blame the current Mayor. He's completely trying to kill the motor vehicle as best he can.
And the replacement of the Boris buses are Chinese BYD BD11 buses, which look nowhere like other buses in London
Khan needs to be taken off the streets not the busses
Cope and seethe. He was re-elected by people who continue to not want more Tory shite.
And yet he just got reelected to record third term. Cry harder 😭
@@Paul-yz4gx Only because of the Muslim vote. Hardly anyone turned out for the election.
350 million pounds? that's one week worth the money that is going to the NHS since brexit.
they do get the money, don't they?
They're in the midst of repainting them all...
average 82db noise level on board, the limit to start wearing ear plugs to protect ears
Spreading more misinformation typical from this account
Just don't watch it if you're so "well-informed"
@@UrbanStories You shouldn't be lying in your videos
@@Lewisham_bus_spotterYou should do some research mate
@@HeWhoMustNotBeNamedIsAlive The NRMs did NOT replace the original routemasters, the meracdes citaro bendy bus did.
@@UrbanStoriesStop spreading misinformation.
That's not the bus.... That's the muppet mayor we have in London!!!
This is rubbish
Khan making a complete mess of things again. Expensive and very divisive, he is woeful.
O yes another fantastic idea from crusty clown 🤡 👏
Can confirm, these buses were unbearable in summer. There were no windows opening at the front of the bus on the top deck (I'd say at least 5 rows in). They looked great from the outside, but were really cramped and uncomfortable inside.
Most of the customers come from hot and humid countries so what’s their problem?
Yeah, but only here in the west do those poeple have the balls to demand one thing after another, which they wouldn't dare to do in their country of origin.
@@theamaranthineman574stop crying
Should have never taken down the trolleybusses 😢
A bus has a working life of around 12 years. They will be sold on to be used on less demanding routes outside of London.
Oh, bugger. I bet my local bus company will be daft enough to buy them.
Nah. Buses have a working life of more like 20 years plus. The Route Master had one of more like six decades 😂 .
@@jimtaylor294 Don't confuse a type being in use for decades with an individual bus lasting for decades. They simply don't. particularly not in highly demanding city centre usage.
After a decade one of these buses can easily have half a million miles on it, and 50,000 hours on the engine, running gear and chassis.
Yes at that point they can do some more service in less demanding roles away from cities, but they are already basically scrap.
^ I disagree with that premise.
Have a nice day.
@@jimtaylor294 Disagree all you like. It doesn't change reality.
The average London bus does about 40,000 miles a year. 12 years of that is a vehicle lifetime.
Have they heard of air conditioning?
Our access to better computational tools than the slide ruler has falsely convinced us that we do not need as great a margin of error as we used to have, so it's simply becoming more common for the tightly calculated designs to just be a shy short of what's actually needed. That plus it takes a few generations of a new design before such shortcomings are addressed, just look at the US dusasterous efforts to federally fund new modern buses back in the 70's.
Thats depressing, i love the aesthetic of the boris bus. Very sleek
Windows. What a great new invention. Hopefully the architects of offices and shops will adopt them one day.
Route masters were taken out of service in the 90’s
No, 2005.
@@timpedder6046 I was born in 99 and lived in central london till I was in my 20’s and have only have seen them for special occasions or as party busses
They’re being replaced because they cost so much to maintain as there are no off the shelf parts
This is what happens when you dont vote.
Has it been 12 years already! 😳
Good. Let’s remove all reminders of boris until he becomes a fairy tale mothers use to scare their kids.
What a ridiculous comment 😒
@@virgiltracey9130 oh my god lighten up its a joke ffs
Boris Johnson is unremarkable by British political standards. What’s remarkable is he makes no attempt to hide it.
Extended Bodies for Most of the Buses
Much as I am not comfortable
asking the depot why they stopped running the London Suburban Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW’s on routes 30, 121, 230, 313, 271, 349, N279 And 158 why can’t we make the same make of the Loud 4-Speed Leyland
Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Buses but Modernise the insides of these Buses. Also, make it low floor up and down and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more so there will be more space for the wheelchair users. By the way, if you could remake and Modernise these vehicles could they also make them into a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Version that if it will be possible to Modernise the insides of these Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW’s make it low floor up and down and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more so there will be more space and even a London Suburban 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD
Enviro 400 MMCs and 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX Diesel engine Enviro 400 MMC’s and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more. Why couldn’t we have those London Suburban Buse's Pale red on the top roof Pale red again on the top middle Milk Chocolate brown on the middle Creamy white on the Bottom Middle and Milk Chocolate Brown again on the Bottom on most of
those kinds of Particular Double Decker Vehicles? Could you put
the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox in the Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMCs and also put the Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox in the Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more and also turn most of them into London Suburban Buses. By the way, could you also make the routes 313, 349, 230, 121, N279 and 271 into London Suburban Buses and have a mixture of a Loud 4-speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox
Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW
Versions. Could they also transfer the Arriva Bus Depots from Hackney to Stagecoach company so they can replace all the Arriva buses so that all of them can go to Birmingham and Leeds and they can be replaced by Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the Middle body part of these Vehicles and that includes A Mixture of a Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Engine Northern Counties Palatine One and that Includes a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX Diesel engine Enviro 400 MMC’s and Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400
MMC Vehicles A Little Bit More? Can Arriva London Bus Company Replace Most of their Wight Buses so they can also transfer them to Birmingham and Also Manchester so they can be replaced by Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the middle body part of these Vehicles A Little Bit More Thank You Very Very Very Very Much. Oh by the way could the bus Factory Companies also Make More of Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles And that also includes Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC And also Extend The middle Body part of those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and that also includes The Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus A Little Bit More And Paint Those 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and that also includes The Northern Counties Palatine One with a Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Diesel engines with a Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearboxes and The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX Diesel engine Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles to the Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on the Bus Route 125, 173, 313 and the 103. If all of the 14 Leyland Titan B15s are Fully Red and even Mostly Red, could they also Repaint All of Those 14 Leyland Titan B15s into Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on Bus Route 313 so they can Reuse them for Only Every Seven and a Half Months and also Reuse them on those Rail Replacement London Bus Routes if that will Be Alright for Only Just Every Seven and a Half Months, starting from the beginning of October and also Reuse Those Buses Only on the London Bus Routes which are 341, N41, 34, 123, N29, 149, 221, N73, 121, 86, 30, 262, 147, 396, 41, and N26 so Please make sure that the builders can do as they are told!!!!!!! And please do something about these Very Very Very Important Professional Ideas Pretty Please Prime Minister and also includes the Mayor of London.
We don't want karn
Yh we do, that’s why he got voted in
The election said otherwise.
Elected by postal voters
Nobody but the muzzies want him
@@martynbush oh really? You got any proof of that? I heard all the Susan Hall votes were by postal vote too 😉
Loved the old Route Masters. Great memories traveling with my mum 35 years ago.
False
The buses were designed by an architect?
14 yrs... Tell me who ruined the country
Everyone in parliament... Sadiq Khan is solely responsible for destroying London.
Blair Major and Brown, over about 20 years.
@@GromDarkwater Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak?
@EdwardOberon did a lot less damage than Major and Blair achieved during their tenure. Brown at least tried to make up for the damage he did.
Also its telling you missed off Clegg who was in joint control from 2010 to 2015.
To be honest im quite fond of these busses, they do have quite a powerful visual identity to them and i wouldn't say that they are noticably much worse performance wise than the more normal double deckers you see on the street. It would be a shame to see them go after such a short ammount of time
When the battery busses start catching fire like a Ford Pinto, they will say that there is nothing they can do. We already had the technology almost 100 years ago, a trolley bus, it's light and is unlikely to cause a long lasting fire, and would be much lighter, causing less damage to the streets.
Battery buses have already been catching fire.
How did he get the credit for the busses and hire bikes but not the riots?
(In fairness Im paraphrasing Sean Lock, but the point remains).
Just curious, why is it that the mayor of London as well as the PM are both Indian? I know there’s a huge presence of foreigners in the UK, not to mention the recent PM of Scotland is also of foreign descent, it just seems curious to me that so many positions of power are held by them and am just wondering if someone can explain it to this American?
Because we have been invaded.
@@elainepace7726 😔
There are people of Indian descent in the UK, some of them wanted to be politicians, some of them were elected. It's the same reason why there are people of British descent who are politicians in the US.
@@joemiller947
That makes sense of course! Thanks for replying 😊
I think Sadiq Khan is Pakistani
I 💕 love the old route masters...takes me back to my childhood... "We're all going on a summer 🌞 holiday 🎶"
Boris was a very wasteful mayor. Under his watch heaps of working class people were thrown out of London and with that London lost its soul.
Khan is*
@@jimtaylor294 It wasn't Khan who pushed all the lower skilled workers out of London and sent the cost of living in London through the roof. What happens is the elitist, establishment globalists, like Farage and Johnson, pretend that it is the fault of say the immigrant when it is actually their plundering of your tax dollars. By voting these overlords back in, time and time again, many Brits are the equivalent of trees voting for the axe.
POV: me in Leicester not having boris buses ‘WHAT THE LONDON OVERGROUND IS A BORIS BUS AND WHY DOES UT EXIST???’ lol
Boris should have been jailed
like Khan....
London doesn’t run homogeneous bus fleets. There’s a mix of models in service at any one time. The idea that the routemaster was the main London bus from 1950s to 2000s is completely wrong.
Up until 1970 there were only RM & RT in terms of double deckers. The awful Fleetline opo vehicles arrived (8 fleetlines went to London Country in the mid 60s for evaluation). In the late 70s MCW & Leyland titans joined the fleet, a couple of Volvos were used for evaluation in the early 80s (at least one ran on the 77/77a route crew operated. So while in more recent years there has been a very mixed fleet in London this wasn’t always the case. It should also be noted that from the early 70s onwards there was a bias towards RM operation in routes covering the “central area” because of dwell times at stops.
I think the longevity of the RM proved the wisdom of the operator designing and building a vehicle to cope with London, but the mess tendering left us with has reduced a great service to a patchwork mess run by short life vehicles
Kuck Fhan
😂😂😂
We should never have abolished bendy buses: they are used on the continent to great effect. But our upper middle class rulers become paranoid at the thought of even one passenger getting away with not paying and outlawed them. Disgraceful !
Next the mayor will start phasing out all pubs....as his religion hates them
If the electricity is powered by carbon and rare earths necessary for the batteries it is not an environmental victory. The opposite.