So yesterday I stopped at the Georgia Agriculture Museum and my wife had to listen to me talk about the old wood band saw all the way home. So today she's going to be thrilled to hear about this band saw of yours. Nice find.
My Dad bought a 24" Grob a little while back. Bought it from a retired guy who once had a big shop doing a lot of work. We fully checked it over and when we did we found the gearbox was dry. It was probably drained when moved and never refilled. I'm amazed that the saw ran for probably 20 years with only the oil left on the gears. We filled it and put it back in service, the gearbox was acceptable. GL with yours keith.
That is a great saw! A friend of mine found a similar saw in similar condition about 15 years ago in Sebring Florida and completely restored it. He painted it a cream color with green and red trim and dials etc. - beautiful!! Looking forward to the rebuild series.
I bought and restored 2 DoAll MP-20s about 20 years ago. I kept one and sold the other. Still use the one I kept today. Pretty nice machine that weighs in at about 3,500 lbs.
i have a newer version of this saw , my company was throwing it away because the gearbox was stripped . come to find out it was only the impellers in blower motor where damaged causing the grinding noise so $ 40.00 later i have one of the best bandsaws i've ever owned .
Those bandsaw blade welders are very handy. I learned how to use one in HS shop a LONG time ago. Temp job I had a few years ago the production manager was this bipolar Vietnamese guy. Blade on the tiny bandsaw I was using broke (bad weld, could hear it thumping before it went). No problem there's a blade welder right there on the table (covered in dust). So I took the blade out and dusted off the welder. Guy comes over and yells "What you doing?" I said the blade broke and I'm going to fix it. "We no pay you to fix sawblades!" Well they paid me to stand there for a half hour while one of his guys hunted up a new blade. Then another half hour to watch them put the new blade on the saw (they wouldn't let me help align it). Now I'm a Mechanical Engineer by profession. I quit that job the next day!
I got one with file blades, spare tires, blades, and a cabinet - no motor - for $500, has a coolant pump and tubes 14" wheels. Took me awhile to find a NEMA switch and figure out how to wire it. The table also tilts front to back as well as sideways. Also the pedal was set up to release weights that made the power feed pull. I use it in the woodshop with a resaw blade. Serial numbers are different too. good tool.
In the 70's I spent many hours using one of these Do All band saw here in the UK.. It was bought new in about 1970. It had the filing attachments and we used both flat and curved files for filing concave profiles. It also had different bade guides to suit saw blades of 1/4 to 1/5 inch width and the setting tools. The blade welder was not as good as the German made Start rite welder though on their machines.
Kieth, you struck gold with that baby! Those old DO ALL's are the standard of the earth when it comes to vertical band saws. These machines made during that time period are one of the things that made America great. They were in lots of wartime factories. You need to get that monster down to floor level because when you stand beside it, it makes you look short. LOL!
I remember back in 1966, when I was in the Navy, the ship was in for repairs at the Fellows & Stewart Shipyard, Terminal Island, CA., they had a Do-All (I believe) 36" band saw. I was able to use it a few times, and took a few lessons from an old welder who was in charge. Thanks for bringing back some memories, Keith. Jon
I have a 16" DoAll with the welder. You are going to have to make this machine a priority! I like the paint the way it is. Just clean up the rest and use it.
Keith that’s NOT a brake pedal to stop the wheels it’s a lever to engage the weight for pressure cutting with the chains. I have just purchased the 16 inch model built in 1942, stripped it down to bare steel and had it resprayed. Just got it running, I still have the welder to refurbish and replace the hydraulic hoses. Good luck with the rebuild.
Really enjoy watching you restore old machines. I remember using one of those bandsaws when I was young. Remember using the welder to make new bands. Keep it up.
Can't wait to see the progress. I've got a similar vintage 16" DoAll contour saw. Got the saw running, but not having any luck shifting between high and low, and of course its stuck in high.
I recently acquired a 16 inch version of your new saw Keith. The transformer is toast so I wired the blade welder to a cord for 240 single phase and, after a couple practice runs, I was able to do some fairly respectable blades. I got some books with it and got good info from them. There are filing and sanding bands that I got along with it but haven't run as of yet Its a good old heavy built machine that I've also been needing for quite a while. Good luck with your project.Thanks
Great looking acquisition, Keith! Back in the late '60s I worked in a machine shop of an electronics company and we had one of these. Bought the saw blade on a big reel and just took what we needed when replacing the blade. I must have welded 50 or 60 blades. Really nice feature. BTW, you are correct about the angular momentum of those wheels; takes all day to coast to a stop. EE to ME, that thing by the lamp is a socket, not a plug :>). Looking forward to following the restoration.
Even if you can't salvage the current internals of the welder, it's a simple system, there's plenty of retrofits that can be made to make that feature functional, and it's worth having it.
Great find. Used to work in a place that made carbon brushes, they had an entire "fleet" of these saws. They were great, and just ran and ran. Can't wait to see it back in action!!!
Hi Keith Congratulations on getting a machine you have been looking for! Like you and many others I really love these old solidly built machines. I just picked up an older 8" Delta jointer and the construction quality far surpasses that of most current 8" machines I have looked at.
1:37 -- That poor band saw sat idle for 20 years because its owner didn't have 3-phase current in his home workshop. However, Keith Rucker does have 3-phase current thanks to -- cue commercial -- American Rotary.
Keith, I have several NOS band file blades in the box. I got them at the Do All plant liquidation sale in Savage MN last year. What size do you need? Jeff
You may want to contact him at www.vintagemachinery.org. I don't think he always catches all the comments. He has answered my comments when I used the vintage machinery website. And very cool of you to have the file blades.
What a find! I used that type aboard Navy ships. I've seen them setup strictly for "wire cutting" or like you described. They would even cut glass with the right wire. I never understood why they use the term "contouring" though, if the table or saw blade wasn't a dynamic movable angle type for a precise cut as part of the function. But they still sell them I guess.
You are really excited about this saw, I mean you always get excited about the newest tools but today you are sounding a bit like the History Channel Keith. We love when you research a tool like this saw, break down when it was made and which one in that year it is as a former band-saw operator for an aerospace job shop I was a tool tab operator in my starting days of the past. That DoAll is larger then any band-saw I ever operated, it is really tall. I was however like you able to weld a blade at the saw.
Great saw ....I do have an original Vimco shade, that fits the particular socket on the saw....not sure if it original to the Doall saw, but I recognize the light socket, as being a Vimco "right angle" style ....give me a shout if you need one.
LOL…. “Not too bad of shape”… one day Keith you will have to show us some machine who’s shape IS “too bad” if one exists. I admire your energy to get these things running, always fun to watch.
Hay good score I payed the same for my 20" Rockwell band saw but mine is plug in and go single phase 220 . I like it a lot and use it for mostly Aluminum I run a 3/4 4 Lenox blade I found good use for the price and my saw guy dose a good job welding them as I cant stand a thump thump when cutting and a good blade that is put together right will not do that .So Keith you have a good score and you will like a big solid saw to work on for a life time
nice saws, i picked up a ml16 running needed paint, the blade welder was fixed by two drops of oil. you'll see when you take it apart, there's a sliding mechanism in there that binds, once loose weld away.
In one of my shop classes, they had a band saw with the welder on it. THAT is what the teacher told us. Buy blade stock in rolls, and weld your own blade. steve
Hey Keith - Great find. wow, it sat for 20 years. Very sad. So happy you have the saw now. If not for you, the band saw would be in a scrap yard. Looking forward to the restoration project.
Oh, a night on the sofa would be great. I guess, most of times, he sleeps in the shop, accompanied by the dog, while the cat sleeps in his bed. And, yes, i have to sleep in my office. Every single night.
Keith, you should chat with ChuckE2009. He is also a machineoholic. If he sees an old tractor that is covered in rust and hasn't run in 50 years, the first question he asks is "How much?"
If you haven't already taken the paint off, it would be awesome if you could get some good pictures of that old paint. It would make a great texture for 3D modeling.
It’s funny MR Pete222 was only telling us about one of these only yesterday on 17/12/2018 he was saying it has been a dream of his to get his hands on one
I wonder if the six "strips" (3 each above & below) around the Do-All "speed calculator" are chrome plated trim? Some look awfully shiny to be 1940 aluminum that hasn't been protected from weather/humidity. Keith has the best luck obtaining old and very interesting equipment to restore! I think I'm jealous.... :D
Should be nice once restored a bit. Had a chance about 1.5 yrs ago for a DoAll exactly like albeit slightly larger @ 36"! I just didn't have a place to put it and it went to scrap..sad. :(
great looking saw looking forward to the refurb!
So yesterday I stopped at the Georgia Agriculture Museum and my wife had to listen to me talk about the old wood band saw all the way home. So today she's going to be thrilled to hear about this band saw of yours. Nice find.
My Dad bought a 24" Grob a little while back. Bought it from a retired guy who once had a big shop doing a lot of work. We fully checked it over and when we did we found the gearbox was dry. It was probably drained when moved and never refilled. I'm amazed that the saw ran for probably 20 years with only the oil left on the gears. We filled it and put it back in service, the gearbox was acceptable.
GL with yours keith.
That is a great saw! A friend of mine found a similar saw in similar condition about 15 years ago in Sebring Florida and completely restored it. He painted it a cream color with green and red trim and dials etc. - beautiful!! Looking forward to the rebuild series.
I bought and restored 2 DoAll MP-20s about 20 years ago. I kept one and sold the other. Still use the one I kept today. Pretty nice machine that weighs in at about 3,500 lbs.
My father made this Saws in the 40s to the early 60s he is 94 now
i have a newer version of this saw , my company was throwing it away because the gearbox was stripped . come to find out it was only the impellers in blower motor where damaged causing the grinding noise so $ 40.00 later i have one of the best bandsaws i've ever owned .
Score! 👍
Those bandsaw blade welders are very handy. I learned how to use one in HS shop a LONG time ago. Temp job I had a few years ago the production manager was this bipolar Vietnamese guy. Blade on the tiny bandsaw I was using broke (bad weld, could hear it thumping before it went). No problem there's a blade welder right there on the table (covered in dust). So I took the blade out and dusted off the welder. Guy comes over and yells "What you doing?" I said the blade broke and I'm going to fix it. "We no pay you to fix sawblades!" Well they paid me to stand there for a half hour while one of his guys hunted up a new blade. Then another half hour to watch them put the new blade on the saw (they wouldn't let me help align it). Now I'm a Mechanical Engineer by profession. I quit that job the next day!
My dad worked for a tool&die shop and they had one just like that, I was about 12 then and I was scared of it, cool to see one again
I got one with file blades, spare tires, blades, and a cabinet - no motor - for $500, has a coolant pump and tubes 14" wheels. Took me awhile to find a NEMA switch and figure out how to wire it. The table also tilts front to back as well as sideways. Also the pedal was set up to release weights that made the power feed pull. I use it in the woodshop with a resaw blade. Serial numbers are different too. good tool.
In the 70's I spent many hours using one of these Do All band saw here in the UK.. It was bought new in about 1970. It had the filing attachments and we used both flat and curved files for filing concave profiles. It also had different bade guides to suit saw blades of 1/4 to 1/5 inch width and the setting tools. The blade welder was not as good as the German made Start rite welder though on their machines.
Kieth, you struck gold with that baby! Those old DO ALL's are the standard of the earth when it comes to vertical band saws. These machines made during that time period are one of the things that made America great. They were in lots of wartime factories. You need to get that monster down to floor level because when you stand beside it, it makes you look short. LOL!
Looking forward to seeing your new band saw find finished and running. NICE!
What a wonderful peice of machinery, I know you will have fun with it Keith. 🇦🇺
Oh man I haven't been this excited about a restauration project in a long time. What a beautiful bandsaw!
We have three of them where I work. They don't always work but they are very, very handy.
Beautiful saw. I'm excited for this restoration! $400!! Score!
I remember back in 1966, when I was in the Navy, the ship was in for repairs at the Fellows & Stewart Shipyard, Terminal Island, CA., they had a Do-All (I believe) 36" band saw. I was able to use it a few times, and took a few lessons from an old welder who was in charge. Thanks for bringing back some memories, Keith. Jon
I have a 16" DoAll with the welder. You are going to have to make this machine a priority!
I like the paint the way it is. Just clean up the rest and use it.
Really nice piece., deserves a complete restoration.
Very nice find. Eagerly anticipating the restoration.
I’m excited to see it come back to life!
That blade welder is a very cool feature!
Keith that’s NOT a brake pedal to stop the wheels it’s a lever to engage the weight for pressure cutting with the chains. I have just purchased the 16 inch model built in 1942, stripped it down to bare steel and had it resprayed. Just got it running, I still have the welder to refurbish and replace the hydraulic hoses. Good luck with the rebuild.
Really enjoy watching you restore old machines. I remember using one of those bandsaws when I was young. Remember using the welder to make new bands.
Keep it up.
on my 16" the pedal you mention for braking the saw was actually for lifting a counterweight for the feed mechanism.
It's the same on my V 36
Can't wait to see the progress. I've got a similar vintage 16" DoAll contour saw. Got the saw running, but not having any luck shifting between high and low, and of course its stuck in high.
I like it! Congratulations Keith! I look forward to more on this one!
Beautiful saw Keith! Look forward to the rebuild AND the 10EE. Happy Trails, Doug
looking forward to the series
I recently acquired a 16 inch version of your new saw Keith. The transformer is toast so I wired the blade welder to a cord for 240 single phase and, after a couple practice runs, I was able to do some fairly respectable blades. I got some books with it and got good info from them. There are filing and sanding bands that I got along with it but haven't run as of yet Its a good old heavy built machine that I've also been needing for quite a while. Good luck with your project.Thanks
Great looking acquisition, Keith! Back in the late '60s I worked in a machine shop of an electronics company and we had one of these. Bought the saw blade on a big reel and just took what we needed when replacing the blade. I must have welded 50 or 60 blades. Really nice feature. BTW, you are correct about the angular momentum of those wheels; takes all day to coast to a stop. EE to ME, that thing by the lamp is a socket, not a plug :>). Looking forward to following the restoration.
This is why I subscribed to this channel. Love a Rucker restoration :)
Nice saw Keith...had one like that where I used to work...wish Ihad one at home also...good find...!!
Now THAT is a bandsaw. Compared to my little 12 inch Craftsman (80 years old) it is a giant!! Merry Christmas!
Even if you can't salvage the current internals of the welder, it's a simple system, there's plenty of retrofits that can be made to make that feature functional, and it's worth having it.
Nice purchase. 👍. That should clean up a treat.
Awesome machine Keith. I look forward to watching it get restored.
Good price for a good project. I'm looking forward to it.
Oh man it's been 30 yrs+ since I've seen one of them, my secondary school had one in their woodwork department machine shop.
Great find. Used to work in a place that made carbon brushes, they had an entire "fleet" of these saws. They were great, and just ran and ran. Can't wait to see it back in action!!!
Looking forward to this one.
I can’t wait for the rebuild series of this Saw 😮👏😃
What a beast! What a project. I assume we will see the restore!
Hi Keith Congratulations on getting a machine you have been looking for! Like you and many others I really love these old solidly built machines. I just picked up an older 8" Delta jointer and the construction quality far surpasses that of most current 8" machines I have looked at.
Really a nice machine! I wish I had one as sometimes a vertical is just the tool for the job! Your shop gets better equipped all the time! :-)
1:37 -- That poor band saw sat idle for 20 years because its owner didn't have 3-phase current in his home workshop. However, Keith Rucker does have 3-phase current thanks to -- cue commercial -- American Rotary.
Nice find. Sure can't beat the price. Thanks for the videos.
Keith, I have several NOS band file blades in the box. I got them at the Do All plant liquidation sale in Savage MN last year. What size do you need? Jeff
You may want to contact him at www.vintagemachinery.org. I don't think he always catches all the comments. He has answered my comments when I used the vintage machinery website. And very cool of you to have the file blades.
@@etheroar6312 - I was thinking that was the case. Thanks Ether, I would have forgotten about it eventually. Jeff
I could use a couple 174" ers. Let me know what you're asking, and I'll get my contact info to you.
heck of a deal,you will have fun,thanks for the heads up.
SCORE!! Can't wait to see the restoration process. Congrats!
Holy Moly Molly, that is an Abom size saw! Another new resident in "Keith's Home for Neglected Machines".
Super cool saw, love your channel!
What a find! I used that type aboard Navy ships. I've seen them setup strictly for "wire cutting" or like you described. They would even cut glass with the right wire. I never understood why they use the term "contouring" though, if the table or saw blade wasn't a dynamic movable angle type for a precise cut as part of the function. But they still sell them I guess.
Very usefull acquisition. A man never has enough tools! Thanks for sharing
I love that the speed calculator has a setting for asbestos.
Great find Keith! Looking forward to it's restoration. Santa came early for you. lol
There is a local man that worked for Do All. He retired sometime ago from Do All and now he travels around fixing them
Wow.... thats a hammer. Can't wait for the first videos with the restauration.
I picked up a 1943 Doall ML16 bandsaw a few years ago. Built like a tank.
You have a very tolerant wife! I operated one of those years ago at the naval shipyard I retired from.
You are really excited about this saw, I mean you always get excited about the newest tools but today you are sounding a bit like the History Channel Keith. We love when you research a tool like this saw, break down when it was made and which one in that year it is as a former band-saw operator for an aerospace job shop I was a tool tab operator in my starting days of the past. That DoAll is larger then any band-saw I ever operated, it is really tall. I was however like you able to weld a blade at the saw.
Nice find Mr Rucker congrats. A little bit of TLC and she'll be looking and purring like new.
Great saw ....I do have an original Vimco shade, that fits the particular socket on the saw....not sure if it original to the Doall saw, but I recognize the light socket, as being a Vimco "right angle" style ....give me a shout if you need one.
LOL…. “Not too bad of shape”… one day Keith you will have to show us some machine who’s shape IS “too bad” if one exists. I admire your energy to get these things running, always fun to watch.
"OK, you can keep it but you have to feed it and take care of it and clean up after it".
Now that's funny :-) .
Hay good score I payed the same for my 20" Rockwell band saw but mine is plug in and go single phase 220 . I like it a lot and use it for mostly Aluminum I run a 3/4 4 Lenox blade
I found good use for the price and my saw guy dose a good job welding them as I cant stand a thump thump when cutting and a good blade that is put together right will not do that .So Keith you have a good score and you will like a big solid saw to work on for a life time
Ohhh, you are a vintage machine junkie, this I can't wait to see you restore!
nice saws, i picked up a ml16 running needed paint, the blade welder was fixed by two drops of oil. you'll see when you take it apart, there's a sliding mechanism in there that binds, once loose weld away.
You have to love an early Christmas present!
In High School, our Machine shop had one of those. Nice find Keth
Nice score
Great saw used one at Eastern Air Lines Miami Fl. in the 60's.
you can also blade stock in a roll and make your own blades
In one of my shop classes, they had
a band saw with the welder on it.
THAT is what the teacher told us.
Buy blade stock in rolls, and weld
your own blade.
steve
You can always replace or make parts that are no longer working but for $400 you got a great base/frame to work with. Good find!
Sweet score Keith! I have that same saw, newer version, but looks very similar. Nice to have that hydraulic feed setup.
Very nice looking Saw
Hey Keith - Great find. wow, it sat for 20 years. Very sad. So happy you have the saw now. If not for you, the band saw would be in a scrap yard. Looking forward to the restoration project.
My name is Keith and I'm a machineoholic!
HI, KEITH!!!
I wonder whether Keith ever spends a night on the sofa after Mrs. Rucker discovers his latest "acquisition". Or does she just get a goody too?
Oh, a night on the sofa would be great. I guess, most of times, he sleeps in the shop, accompanied by the dog, while the cat sleeps in his bed. And, yes, i have to sleep in my office. Every single night.
Keith, you should chat with ChuckE2009. He is also a machineoholic. If he sees an old tractor that is covered in rust and hasn't run in 50 years, the first question he asks is "How much?"
Yes and we’re all jealous. Way to go.
Aha! The king of RUclipsr machinists has garnered the king of band saws.
Es un muy buen proyecto !!! Tengo ganas de ver como haces la restauración.
Te mando un gran abrazo desde Argentina. Gracias por tus videos.
If you stopped buying today we would still have a five year supply of your fixing old machines up. NICE!!!
Nice score Keith!
Steve
I am happy for you Merrychristmas to you
That's a cool machine Keith!!!
If you haven't already taken the paint off, it would be awesome if you could get some good pictures of that old paint. It would make a great texture for 3D modeling.
Nice find Keith
Wow, that's a big one! At least on video, it looks like it'll clean up nicely.
8 people are jealous, awesome find Keith!!
hot dam, that's one gorgeous big mother of a bandsaaaw, Keith.
Keep on trucking (from France) !
O que aconteceu com essa máquina? Gostaria de ter mais vídeos dela, pois é uma ótima aquisição.
That's great! Congratulations and I look forward to the restoration videos. If I dragged that home, my wife would use it to split me in two. LOL.
Great find
very nice
It’s funny MR Pete222 was only telling us about one of these only yesterday on 17/12/2018 he was saying it has been a dream of his to get his hands on one
I wonder if the six "strips" (3 each above & below) around the Do-All "speed calculator" are chrome plated trim? Some look awfully shiny to be 1940 aluminum that hasn't been protected from weather/humidity. Keith has the best luck obtaining old and very interesting equipment to restore! I think I'm jealous.... :D
Should be nice once restored a bit. Had a chance about 1.5 yrs ago for a DoAll exactly like albeit slightly larger @ 36"! I just didn't have a place to put it and it went to scrap..sad. :(
THANK YOU...for sharing.
Awesome!
wow! very nice - am looking forward to seeing this project!
:)