Was a bit mixed about the new up special until you said Baby Mario had a chance of appearing. If you manage to pop Baby Mario's bubble and then win the match, it'd be neat to get a unique victory animation involving Baby Mario.
I think that banjo & kazooie and yoshi have something in common in smash, the two in their original games have transformations but in smash they do not use them in any of their movements
Yeah they're in kind've a tough position. It's not that the transformations aren't important to them it's just that they aren't the central focus and they have too much other stuff going on to include them. If a character were to get into Smash with transformations they should go all out like Pokemon Trainer instead of taking up a move or two. Which is why I think Shantae would do an excellent job as a transformation fighter.
What if up b works like Pac-man's neutral b? It cycles through the bubbles, you can cancel by pressing shield or use the one the cycle is on by pressing b again. When you use it, the bubble floats up slowly. Only you can pop it with your eggs, after which the item you chose will fall out, like you explained. I would also change the items a little. First: Shy Guy. After the Shy Guy bubble is popped he will drop to the ground and start walking around. He can damage you and your opponent, and can be killed by pretty much every attack. You can eat him for a special egg. Second: Apple. After eating the pepper you shoot three fireballs the next time you use neutral b. Third: Watermelon. Eating this would give Yoshi a limited amount of watermelon seeds he could shoot out by holding b. They have a relatively shord range, but are continuous until they run out. Fourth: Melon. Eating the melon would heal Yoshi a small amount. Fifth: Baby Mario. Baby Mario would float around so he would be harder to hit. After a certain amount of time he would be carried away by flying Magikoopa. If you rescue Baby Mario he will cheer you on, which boosts your damage/movement speed( I don't mean that it will randomly choose on, I'm just not sure which) for a certain amount of time. I think it's pretty fair because it takes a little to get the item, since you first have to pop the bubble it's in.
I really like how you worked in the fireball thing. I've always liked Ult's FS while also missing the projectiles from the other one... So this is a super cool way of having it both ways! EDIT: Also... I feel like having to wait 20 frames in order to start rising might be a bit too long. It'd make it fairly easy for Yoshi to get punished before even rising because like, if he cancels his jump before it rises, he won't rise anymore... right?
That is correct, he won't rise but he does keep his jump. His jump being this incredible defensive tool in so many aspects of his character make me want to have a drawback somewhere, so despite having some many options out of jump the opponent can always feel like they have a chance to guess on reaction. It seems bad, cuz the speed is definitely exploitable, but he would have absolutely insane durability, recovery, and undoubtedly a million different techniques out of it no one could predict. An addendum I wish I made is that he can tether to his bubbles to make him even harder to mess with offstage
I really loved the redesign I only have one little small suggestion.I know you said in the video that the up b does not help him recover but I think it would be cool that the Air version would have Yoshi sneeze a bubble into to himself and it would have the bubble float him a fixed distance.
This would be cool but I think a recovery move is absolutely necessary here. It would even add a nice reference! Yoshi Bomb -> Down Air Item Bubbles -> Down B Yoshi Heliccopter -> Up B It could work really similar to kazuya or inking animation-wise where yoshi would almost instantly transform into a helicopter and launch straight up, before having the option of a gliding descent. Mechanically, it’d be a slightly slower multi-hit version of Mr. Game & Watch’s Up-B.
The newer Yoshi designs keep making the mistake of giving him too much distance. I want to give him basically just a good jump and airdodge and that will be enough to reach the ledge 99% of the time.
They all sound pretty good. I don't really think the cartoon look is needed as a costume, but I'd be ok with it. The item thing as an Up B sounds interesting, but I'd make it more random; like a party ball. On a side note the thing with Koopa shell is good, but the blue shell is TOO long for an attack. You stated it should be 30 seconds, but it is only 18 seconds in SMW. I really like the tether grab idea with his tounge and don't know WHY Nintendo hasn't incorporated it yet. The smell thing you mentioned should be a taunt. I think he should stand like he did in Brawl too. The baby Mario thing is a bit of a stretch. It's not really needed, but if they DID do it the baby shouldn't be limited to just Mario. It should be random and have the other babies as well. Also I'd ditch the bubble thing and instead have a stork fly by. One final side note I always felt Yoshi should get a stage based off of the flying dragon from Yoshi's Story. It could just fly around the island like the Isle Delfino stage, but characters would be on its back the whole time. All you would see is the head and maybe at times the tail. However the entire stage is the dragon's back. That's just a personal preference though. Also come on dude. I LIKE Red Yoshi. 😆 Oh also Poochi should be included in some of his victory animations as a nice touch and Easter egg. Well done video.👏
Nice, fellow Yoshi fan, I like that stage pick for creativity but it might need workshopping. And baby Mario isn't like integral to the moveset I just thought it'd be a fun easter egg.
@@sleepyswampert It most likely would need alot of work. And yeah Mario would be a fun Easter egg. But this is ULTIMATE! If they can do more stuff they should.😉👍
yoshi is the worst, most unfun smash character ever. he's not a bad character but the fact that literally nobody wants to main him and put him to ful limits makes me think that his B tier placement is a lie
Everybody gangster till I flutter cancel their spike and nair them.
Was a bit mixed about the new up special until you said Baby Mario had a chance of appearing. If you manage to pop Baby Mario's bubble and then win the match, it'd be neat to get a unique victory animation involving Baby Mario.
Finally another YOSHI fan
Yoshi should use his wings for hisup special
I think that banjo & kazooie and yoshi have something in common in smash, the two in their original games have transformations but in smash they do not use them in any of their movements
Yeah they're in kind've a tough position. It's not that the transformations aren't important to them it's just that they aren't the central focus and they have too much other stuff going on to include them. If a character were to get into Smash with transformations they should go all out like Pokemon Trainer instead of taking up a move or two. Which is why I think Shantae would do an excellent job as a transformation fighter.
Also Wario, but that's because his moveset barely resembles anything wario land related
@@annieskywalker9290 tbf, Smash Wario is more related to the WarioWare Games
What if up b works like Pac-man's neutral b? It cycles through the bubbles, you can cancel by pressing shield or use the one the cycle is on by pressing b again. When you use it, the bubble floats up slowly. Only you can pop it with your eggs, after which the item you chose will fall out, like you explained. I would also change the items a little.
First: Shy Guy. After the Shy Guy bubble is popped he will drop to the ground and start walking around. He can damage you and your opponent, and can be killed by pretty much every attack. You can eat him for a special egg.
Second: Apple. After eating the pepper you shoot three fireballs the next time you use neutral b.
Third: Watermelon. Eating this would give Yoshi a limited amount of watermelon seeds he could shoot out by holding b. They have a relatively shord range, but are continuous until they run out.
Fourth: Melon. Eating the melon would heal Yoshi a small amount.
Fifth: Baby Mario. Baby Mario would float around so he would be harder to hit. After a certain amount of time he would be carried away by flying Magikoopa. If you rescue Baby Mario he will cheer you on, which boosts your damage/movement speed( I don't mean that it will randomly choose on, I'm just not sure which) for a certain amount of time.
I think it's pretty fair because it takes a little to get the item, since you first have to pop the bubble it's in.
It's an option, but I chose the rng route so that the effects could be more powerful. Simplicity also played a role in it.
I really like how you worked in the fireball thing. I've always liked Ult's FS while also missing the projectiles from the other one... So this is a super cool way of having it both ways!
EDIT: Also... I feel like having to wait 20 frames in order to start rising might be a bit too long. It'd make it fairly easy for Yoshi to get punished before even rising because like, if he cancels his jump before it rises, he won't rise anymore... right?
That is correct, he won't rise but he does keep his jump. His jump being this incredible defensive tool in so many aspects of his character make me want to have a drawback somewhere, so despite having some many options out of jump the opponent can always feel like they have a chance to guess on reaction. It seems bad, cuz the speed is definitely exploitable, but he would have absolutely insane durability, recovery, and undoubtedly a million different techniques out of it no one could predict. An addendum I wish I made is that he can tether to his bubbles to make him even harder to mess with offstage
I really loved the redesign I only have one little small suggestion.I know you said in the video that the up b does not help him recover but I think it would be cool that the Air version would have Yoshi sneeze a bubble into to himself and it would have the bubble float him a fixed distance.
Interesting
13:48 was the funniest part of the video
True story
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14:13 alliteration
You love Yoshi instant like!
Thanks for the heart
This would be cool but I think a recovery move is absolutely necessary here. It would even add a nice reference!
Yoshi Bomb -> Down Air
Item Bubbles -> Down B
Yoshi Heliccopter -> Up B
It could work really similar to kazuya or inking animation-wise where yoshi would almost instantly transform into a helicopter and launch straight up, before having the option of a gliding descent. Mechanically, it’d be a slightly slower multi-hit version of Mr. Game & Watch’s Up-B.
The newer Yoshi designs keep making the mistake of giving him too much distance. I want to give him basically just a good jump and airdodge and that will be enough to reach the ledge 99% of the time.
Didn't realize this was a joke video until the costumes, very funny
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They all sound pretty good. I don't really think the cartoon look is needed as a costume, but I'd be ok with it. The item thing as an Up B sounds interesting, but I'd make it more random; like a party ball. On a side note the thing with Koopa shell is good, but the blue shell is TOO long for an attack. You stated it should be 30 seconds, but it is only 18 seconds in SMW. I really like the tether grab idea with his tounge and don't know WHY Nintendo hasn't incorporated it yet. The smell thing you mentioned should be a taunt. I think he should stand like he did in Brawl too. The baby Mario thing is a bit of a stretch. It's not really needed, but if they DID do it the baby shouldn't be limited to just Mario. It should be random and have the other babies as well. Also I'd ditch the bubble thing and instead have a stork fly by. One final side note I always felt Yoshi should get a stage based off of the flying dragon from Yoshi's Story. It could just fly around the island like the Isle Delfino stage, but characters would be on its back the whole time. All you would see is the head and maybe at times the tail. However the entire stage is the dragon's back. That's just a personal preference though. Also come on dude. I LIKE Red Yoshi. 😆 Oh also Poochi should be included in some of his victory animations as a nice touch and Easter egg. Well done video.👏
Nice, fellow Yoshi fan, I like that stage pick for creativity but it might need workshopping. And baby Mario isn't like integral to the moveset I just thought it'd be a fun easter egg.
@@sleepyswampert It most likely would need alot of work. And yeah Mario would be a fun Easter egg. But this is ULTIMATE! If they can do more stuff they should.😉👍
If you kill baby Mario every Mario and Dr. Mario in the game should almost instantly die.
Worthy sacrifice
I like that egg roll is gone, but you could’ve repurposed it by giving yoshi a new up b like fox’s
I did?
@@sleepyswampert what really? How
@@Harrymation-productions
His up B makes the bubbles
Oh right, I ment the old side b
Bubbles powerpuff girls
I agree
Tommy pickles rugrats
yoshi is the worst, most unfun smash character ever. he's not a bad character but the fact that literally nobody wants to main him and put him to ful limits makes me think that his B tier placement is a lie
He's honestly ridiculously good but he's boring so no one plays him
@@sleepyswampert i know. which is very sad to me because i played this character alot as a kid but now he feels shoved in