I spent 4 weeks in NZ earlier this year before lockdown, mostly in Air bnbs with local hosts. 1. I never heard anyone vent about anything. Also got the impression that is not okay to complain - either fix it or if you can't, there is no point in discussing it. 2. Kiwis drink a lot of alcohol when they go out or eat out and nobody thinks anything twice about drinking with the morning brunch. Despite NZ being a big spacious country, there is little parking to be had in places like Auckland, Wellington and Dunedin and people cheerfully walk to do all their errands, even up and down huge hills, rain or shine. 4. Cafe scene is AMAZING. 5. NZ is environentally conscious and an easy place to be a vegan. There are options on every menu if not a separate vegan menu. Thus surprised me since NZ is known for farming sheep and cows.
I had an acquaintance who lived in New Zeland for a period of her life, during which time, she underwent a psychotic break that called for her to be institutionalized. She commented on the kindness and warmth of the sisters there, how loving and caring people at large were towards her, and she was a foreigner. A little kiwi anecdote.
@@meganmatthews7611 She tried to kill herself and was put in a hospital. What's to you the minute technicalities implied by your reply, she might have received mental health assistance- for which she was very thankful- in a general hospital, in a ward where those type of patients get treatment. If a psychotic patient is agitated, threatening to hurt others, actively delirious in the midst of horrendous hallucinations, are you to tell me they take them to a farm to care for kiwis and blueberries? Aw how evolved! Get a grip
Hi Rosie, I must admitt that I agree with the french when it comes to having the child fit into your life rather than you having to change everything as a new parent . Also as a foodie I would love to know more about the food you eat, the dining culture, etc in New Zeeland. A comparison between France and New Zeeland dining experiewnce would be nice
I love your videos so much. Normally I get annoyed or bored with youtubers talking alot in their videos, but this has never happened watching your videos. They're so relevant, informative and funny! ps. And tbh your videos have cheered me up during a really tough time in my life. Thank you.
I love your channel so much! I started watching your videos to get a native English speaker’s take on living in France, but I’ve ended up learning tons about New Zealand too and now I want to visit New Zealand as well! Sounds like a lovely place. Thanks for the work you do!
Love, love, love this video! I'm interested in everything you have to share about New Zealand. I spent five weeks there at the beginning of the year and cannot wait to return. It is truly a wondrous place.
New Zealand sounds soooo beautiful! Can definately relate to the outdoors, pets as family and helpful citizens as I am Canadian. New Zealand is definately on my bucket list now! I have learned SO MUCH about France and life in France from your videos, comparing NZ to France is a great way to learn more! Love your videos, thank you for the heads up on skillshare! 💜
You would love NZ, I lived in Canada for a while in Toronto and when I got to NZ I realised how much alike they are, masses of nature and outdoor space, people are friendly and helpful, always used to shock me in Canada when a complete stranger would suddenly start talking to me because of my accent (I am Welsh) and it’s a bit the same in NZ the only big difference is it does not drop to -15 in the winter lol.
Hi! I'm currently 8 months pregnant living in France (from the UK originally) and I really think that breastfeeding is still considered the best option here, but as Rosie explained there is definitely more of an element of choice surrounding it. People will carefully ask you what you plan to do before saying what they think is best (breast is considered best - but if you say you don't want to, they won't push their views on you). Saying that, the few people I know who didn't breastfeed here have always seemed to feel the need to justify their choice, which shows that there is still judgement surrounding taking the option of not breastfeeding. If you decide to breastfeed (the vast majority of French women do, at least to start with) you get preparation classes from midwives during pregnancy, and as we are lucky enough to spend at least 48 hours in hospital after giving birth, you also have the time to consult a lactation specialist in the hospital and be given lots of advice and support. As far as I can tell women here do tend to stop breastfeeding slightly earlier than in some other countries, but this is linked to the fact that most women return to work very soon after their paid 10 weeks of leave. I hope future mums in France find this reassuring that the culture here is really not that different to elsewhere, you just have more of a personal choice in the matter and there definitely isn't an industry around it like in NZ! :)
@@NotEvenFrench Yes that's true, there's definitely a feeling from medical specialists that it should be a pleasure and a moment of bonding with your baby, and as soon as it's no longer enjoyable it's fine to move on to formula, which could come across as being pretty apathetic about the whole thing! That aspect I'm not a huge fan of, I want to be sure I'll be helped even if it's difficult! But like you said, everything in NZ seems so much more focussed on natural birth, my sister lives in NZ and had twins last year and I was confused when she asked me what I was planning to do with the cord and the placenta! I was like umm... probably not keep them if that's what you mean! We are encouraged to donate the cord to the hospital so they can extract the red and white blood cells though which is great :)
@@ailsavcrawley Your experience re- breastfeeding in France is quite different to mine. Like Rosie, I'm also a Kiwi but I live in the south of France, and i'd say the breastfeeding rate here might be 50/50, which is rather different to back home where there is a 'breast is best' kind of mentality. Even my sister in law (Parisian) explained to me that attitudes toward breastfeeding are still quite new, since formula was the norm until more recently. Many of my expat girlfriends have had similar experiences, with their French networks quite curious about the decision to breastfeed, since our inlaws generation generally didnt. During my cours de preparation and throughout each pregnancy, i recall hearing other women discussing whether they were/weren't breastfeeding, and there were lots of different reasons given for why some women weren't, including not wanting saggy breasts afterwards. I chose to breastfeed in public, even though I don't feel it is generally welcomed, and I even had to yell at someone once who felt it was his right to stare. Perhaps its the difference between city living and small town living but Rosie's explanation certainly reflects my experiences as a breastfeeding Kiwi living in France (p.s. I buried both placentas according to tradition ;-) )
@@sharellegovignon-sweet2781 I was thinking, hearing her, that breast feeding isn't very popular in public areas in France because of the owners of the places you would go to (some ask women to not breastfeed in their restaurant, library or wherever you find yourself doing it). So it's just that some people aren't open minded about it but I believe some women would like to do it, privately or not and just find themselves kicked out if they try publicly !
@@_bebeboudeur_ yes I agree, I do think that more women would like to. And within my French community I'd say the uptake is more breastfeeding women than not (but my particular crowd are perhaps more progressive than the norm). But definitly agree with you about it not being welcomed in public spaces. I even read an article about how France has one of the lowest breastfeeding rates in the OECD, and this is reflected in their attitudes. This particular article showed statistics about where the French thought breastfeeding was/wasn't acceptable. A cafe/restaurant isn't acceptable, for instance... which i find bizarre, since a cafe/resto is where we go to eat - baby included!
@@ailsavcrawley in France they donate the placenta to the hospital? Now I'm curious what they do with the placenta and cord blood in NZ? Where I am there are quite a few traditions surrounding this with some giving the placenta a full blown religious funeral.
Think I can see that New Zealand definitely suits you more! You seem happier and freer. I'm relieved you are surprised how quick and easily you both got a mortgage. I'm older than you and I am embarking on that journey. I pray a kiwi assesses my application! Great attitude.
Nature is not a reverse culture shock. You just need to live outside a big city. I live in Haute-Savoie (northern french alps) and I can see from my window extraordinary landscapes.
Superdude70 The problem is that when we as New Zealanders travel overseas we do the tourist roots we often do not meet the real people of the country and see the struggle they have as we do not see the people who are really struggling here
@@davidboyd8113 WTF are you speaking about? I've been away from NZ for 26 years in 6 countries completely embedded in local cultures. I love it. I also agree that NZ does have nice scenery and landscape but so do many many places around the world. Quit making generalisations.
I had reverse culture shock when coming back from the US in 2007 after 8 1/2 years. Things felt a little weird for a while. But one thing that was a real ray of sunshine was a Maori girl checking my Kiwi passport on my return at the airport in Auckland. "Welcome home!" she said! Ah yes I thought! Home! As a dual citizen I am an expat where ever I go. Michigan is my 'home' state away from home.
We have traveled several times through France so love watching your videos. For any non French visitors, they are very insightful and great preparation for an upcoming trip.
I love your videos about New Zealand!😍 Thanks for the useful video, it's interesting what you said about parenting and paperwork! I live in Japan and paperwork can be complicated here ( kinda like France I guess) I'm going to NZ for the first time next month! So excited! 😍
Getting your driver's license in France sounds like the process we endure in South Africa. Waiting at a traffic department building or another of our most hated buildings: Home Affairs (a place to get identity documents, passports birth/death/marriage certificates), usually takes 5-6 hours before you achieve anything. Then you need to go back, wait in more queues for another 5-6 hours to collect said documents... If they're even ready.
I have no idea why this popped up in my recommended list, but I'm SO glad I watched it. As a kiwi mum of 2, with childlike pets lol, you are spot on in the way you describe how we are. I'm def going to sub n am looking forward to watching your other vids :)
Hey Rosie, just wanted to say that at 2.17 you say because “squarespace” are kind enough to sponsor this video but I think you meant skillshare just wanted to point it out to you in case it causes any issues with your sponsor
HI from Auckland :) I stumbled across this video and found it enjoyable and interesting. I really do wish we were better at testing foreign drivers before handing them a licence ...and that's my rant. Thanks!
Big Suze got mighty pissed when a big lug burped right next to her. She was so mad that she said, "Excuse me! Can you please not!" Big fella, was caught off guard and said, "Sorry."
Great video, Ms Rosie! Very informative. You look great, too. If you have time I would love to see you do another collaboration video. Also, have you considered a trip to Québec to experience the different French culture there? Take care & be safe.
I was nodding along, thinking everything you said about NZ applied to Australia, until you mentioned your online health hub. That's so innovative and convenient! I wonder why we don't do that as well? Also I've heard from friends that it's really hard for foreigners to visit the doctor in Australia, whereas in France it was super easy and only cost 20€.
@@marahbadrian I dont know about NZ but in Australia there are some doctors' practices located in lower socioeconomic areas or on university campuses where you don't have to pay anything and others where you initially pay $70-80 but then are later refunded a percentage of this. Many people who can't afford or don't want to pay to go to the doctor go to the emergency department at a public hospital, which is always free.
Having had a baby in nz I can confirm the pressure mothers feel around child birth and mothering. I had to have an epidural, then emergency csection, the shame I felt about this took a looong time to get over. Breast feed through cracked, bleeding nipples. I look back now and wonder why I put myself through so much anguish.
I definitely agree with the venting yeah in NZ they try to stop you from doing it saying be positive or if you keep going they'll tell you to stop being negative. Least over the past few years I had a good friends that traveled over the past few years like myself can understand the venting. Only people who are really good friends kind of let you vent. Yeah I had to renew my driver's license recently and got a new one in a week. It's a quick process. Had to look after my family's home since the roof of the conservatory and the garage got damaged from the hail and the the neighbors got up and helped. NZ people are friendly and helpful despite when I was young at times I didn't think so but priories change and we grow up.
Rosie I love this! I’ve just finished reading Pamela Druckermans bringing up bebé - a US Mom bringing up children in Paris. Really intriguing, as you say babies fit into the family there much more so than anglophone culture. I love these type of videos! Have an awesome day x
Here is an idea. I notice a conspicuous absence of you hubby. What is HIS take on New Zealand culture? What is HE liking and not. His perspective would be really interesting. Best regards from your latest subscriber. Glen
LOVED this video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love the part about the sudden interest in birds! Can TOTALLY relate! New Zealanders sound A LOT like people from southern California!
I would love New Zealand. I was raised in Colorado, and later lived in Utah, USA, where the outdoors are THE thing. I didn't realize that France (outside of the big cities) was so citified. What about the South of France, or Northern France?
As an Australian (married to a Kiwi) who has lived in the US for the past decade, my biggest shock when we started looking at schools for our girls was that kids would come to school with NO SHOES.. And this was Rotorua in the middle of winter!! I love that the kids are connected (physical) to the world around them but I just about fell over in shock.
Spartacus Maximus I’m perplexed how you would draw that conclusion from my comment. New Zealander have a more relaxed and connected, with their environment, lifestyle. It’s just different. As an outsider, with links to the country, I can appreciate these differences while still finding them distinctive.
@Spartacus Maximus hey mate, I wear bare feet regularly and I've never been in contact with drugs. Maybe you hung around with the wrong crowds but come on man, you get what you ask for. You sound very victimized yourself.
Yay you finally got highlights again! As an American hairstylist I'm loving it! 😂🖤 I know from your videos Parisians don't do as much blonde with their hair.
Wellington is quite small town compare to paris --the city look like la defense in Paris as you know the french to not like skyscrapers but the life quality seem to be nice there vous semblez plus heureuse chez vous que chez nous !
I totally agree with you about the parenting style. I'm Polish and I think that we share a lot in common when it comes to the way we raise and discipline children. I try to avoid topics about parenting when I speak with my French colleagues, I feel that they would think I'm crazy if I told them that we co-sleep with our kids. In France, not only newborn are often put to sleep in a separate bed, but also in a separate room, and often one floor above their parents' room..Once I remember someone telling me proudly how their baby is sleeping through the night at a very young age, only after I learned that they sleep trained it, but letting it cry for 40 minutes at the age of maybe 2 months or something like that...they admitted it was tough on them and devastating, but, in their opinion, it was the right thing to do... On the other hand, I do have to admit that the French kids are very, very well-behaved (e.g. asking if they can leave the table after eating, etc), just, I ask myself at what cost.... Have you seen this Tedx talk? ruclips.net/video/VeDeIeJAFEU/видео.html I'm afraid the speaker from this TED confuses "râler" with a lack of pure, organic attention for her kids...
there a re a lot of rules especially when u climb the social ladder, but well...that is make the french education...french education....british one is similar to ours (and more rigid). we tend to consider babies/kids as individuals (small ones tho) so they have their room/bed but not too assisted ( if a baby cry, there s a reason, i wwouldn t let my new born babies cry for 40mn because they are hungry or cold or else..., not even 5mn). wwhen u say the well behaviour, it is the consequence of a constant reminder of rules at the table or daly behaviour, "say thx u, can i leave the table, dont eat with your mouth filled, dont eat with your mouth opened, hold the door for people, dont, dont dont or do that, do that....and so on in the 125896245 behaving everyday rules until it s printed in the brain.... (like the brits), education is a form of animal training but for humans.... :), pretty much like the calculation tables....training....and u know them for life.... ^^. as for the Tedx vid, i tend to agree with u, she has moire a problem with attention toward her kids than raler ( = disagree with a current situation or unhappy with something)
My French friends must be very forward thinking lol. They have loads of pets,mainly cats,but,I know every single one of them is adored x I also know my friend regularly visits the shelter with donations and will regularly rescue animals from there.Farting is normal in their family,normally laughed at,but there are a lot of young males in the family,so that is probably why.When it comes to kids though,they are stricter,its more like when I was growing up in the late 70s,early 80s,very much about respect and young teenagers are still referred to as children and there are rules that have to be followed.The kids are happy and well rounded,very polite too.
As an American I think New Zealand sounds like about the best place on earth. Also, talk about burying the lede . . . FOSTER KITTENS??? We need a video about that.
I can soooo relate to the reverse culture thing; I left New Zealand in June 1980 and came back in September 2006 ie. 26 years!!! I should do a video on it. haha
I have driven today in paris , périphérique and the suburb créteil ... i wonder how you could live in paris with this very big traffic jam ! I have returned in'my province quickly. Lol
Hi! You talked about native birds in NZ. Could you make a video about biodiversity conservation and controversy in NZ? What is the public opinion about pest control? But it's probably a touchy subject. Cheers from France
After spending a year there I absolutely agree with that. This is what I've been telling everyone, kiwis are pretty unpleasant drivers but aside from that great people haha
I disagree. NZ is like Canada, very nice people, a bit pushy on the road but nothing too bad. Italy has the worst drivers for me, by far. They just don't respect anything outside the cities. And in the cities they go slow only because there's a speed camera every 200 m. For the best drivers, I'd say Australia or Sweden. France is somewhere in the middle.
If im gonna be honest like I am french. I studied 5 years in the UK... when I came back I really realised that the culture/ identity in France is not making french ppl happy. Like we complain, we always criticise, we are not very friendly, we are stingy, cold and sometimes rude. I'm not saying we are all like that. But when I went abroad I slightly felt after 5 years that I was losing my French identity and becoming way more laid back. However I then came back to France, and I started to catch up again with French mentality... and now that I can have a critical look over this... I swear I love loads of things about France but the mentality... I feel so much happier abroad where I feel like I can walk to the corner shop with tracksuits on, do whatever I feel like I want to do... I think we French ppl need to chill. Lol but at the end I think this come all down to our government. It is not doing what it s right in term of education and is creating such an upset society....
Hello, you mentioned you are fostering a cat. Thank you. Have you become involved with rescues? Currently, we have two fosters plus three of our own. One is a "foster failure". So gratifying (and bitter sweet) to be able to find these beauties forever homes.
The dress code thing isn't that bad, it's the constant negativity/complaining/criticizing which really drags us down. It's a real poison for mental health.
I've been to France several times and have always loved it. Some of the towns are bit grubby, dog shit on the footpaths etc but the way French women dress (in Paris anyway!) is inspiring. You should be proud of your culture!
Hey, not sure if you already have a video on this but would you have any tips as a tourist (not a immigrant) from New Zealand going to France? Would they let tourists "get away" with more? Thanks! :)
They are not mortgages in NZ they are home loans so it’s a little bit different, when we first got here and we decided to buy a house we went to the bank to find out about a mortgage and they were like hang on tap tap on keyboard and they were like there you go you have been pre-approved up to x amount so just go find a house. It shocked us a bit, so much different from the UK.
I like the Kiwi laid back culture really. Sorry but the French can be a little overly showponies😁. Not all but many. I'm sure your hubby is not, since he's married a lovely kiwi 😊💕. Being natural, open is refreshing. And for us too our kitty is our baby and we strongly believe that is how it's meant to be.
My experience living in Wellington was a bit different from yours in regards to the venting. I would say that at first it might be more positive conversations but after I got to know my coworkers more we would often have a yarn about our shitty work environment.
I had never heard about that barefoot thing, until I saw a picture of Chris Hemsworth and his wife walking about barefoot. I know they're in Australia, but I guess they do that there too. I'm never barefoot even in my own house. Also if I couldn't burp in front of my friend, then they're not really my friend. New Zealand has always sounded amazing to me, I would love to live there. France doesn't sound great, I have to say. Having lived half my life in Puerto Rico I'm used to friendly, non judgy people. The DMV does suck here too though. It's normal to wait many hours and then get turned away because you don't have one document. I remember having arrived there at 8:00 am and leaving at 3:00 pm.
Moved here a year ago, Positives, it’s the perfect place, the outdoor lifestyle is amazing, and they are VERY helpful and friendly, and the amount of things to do is amazing Negatives although if you think you can make friends fast , think again, unless sports are involved they are not very social,
I feel like helping people is more so something that English speakers do, so people from the UK, US, Australia too... but definitely not very common in France! 😅
living in a small town in Germany, 44.000, and i visited a big town in NZ, Levine, 5.000.... NZ is only nature, nice to look at or driving thru with a motorbike, but i would never move there, i need Europe, Paris in the summer, Switzerland in the winter, drops in Amsterdam and waffels in Brussels etc, i need my local castell and good german bread, polish sausages...and Austrian whine... i like the kiwis, with 2 legs and without feathers and the round ones to eat..
I had my baby in NZ and everyone I met there thought it was REALLY weird that the baby slept in our room as a new born! This is standard practice in the UK. People kept asking when we were going to move her down the corridor and shut her door. I was horrified. Incidentally over half of my natal group didn't breast feed: all NZers. I really does depend on who you are taking to. This was in Nelson.
this is a really cool video but as a new zealander who has lived out of new zealand for most of my life until about 2 years ago i cant say that my family and me have had the same experience, my mum whos asian had to redo her drivers test and paid heaps of money to convert her licence, and the racism that my family faces as well as the systematic racism towards maori here is crazy, it's so wonderful that your experience with coming back to nz was great but i think it cant be relatable for the non-pakeha community here. not saying i dont love this place at all, but the experience for a person of color is just a little different.
Amy Sefont Thanks for this. I’ve heard that Maoris are much better integrated in NZ than aborigines in Australia, but that doesn’t mean everything is okay.
@@amysefont1302 I'm struggling to get from the statement "Actually it depends in which country you got your drivers licence, as they are not all created equal" to racism. NZTA makes it clear ... "To prove that you are familiar with our road rules and can drive safely, some people will need to sit theory tests and practical driving tests. The tests you need to sit depend on the country your licence is from." Criteria are "Some countries require similar driving skills and have similar licensing systems to New Zealand’s. These countries are considered exempt countries". Which they then list. Where is the racism?
Wow as for animals I’d say that the French that I know really love their pets. And animals are welcome in more places, such as restaurants, in France. I wasn’t living in Paris however so that might be the difference.
Im watching your videos cause I wanna learn more about New Zealand to possibly move there. I must say Im shocked at how much Im learning that France is really completely out of my personal morals. I dont mean this is a rude way, but I find it really sad that its rare to see women in france breastfeeding in public. Its just sad to me that even if you want to breastfeed (tho its ok if you dont) you have to hide it, given that breast are literally there to feed possible babies I personally (again, my opinion) and its just nature...I find frustrating that some places in the world make women feel like they have to hide it or that its weird or uncomfortable.
Interesting insight. I was in France 20 years ago and can remember the people being friendly and nice, moreso than in the 80's when no one would speak to you in English. France has very beautiful architecture too, nice country.
I love your channel and worldview....I had planned on living in France for a time but plans fell through and I've always wanted to visit New Zealand. I have lived a lot of places in the United States, however have grown up and spent most of my time in the Pacific Northwest and from that perspective I would say here we are a combination of French lifestyle and New Zealand lifestyle. It's always interesting to see cultures and what presses my own buttons. Great job!
Haha! That is hilarious about the etiquette to do with politeness with bodily functions. I'm a kiwi in the UK and often tease my closer friends with such things! When I took my English boyfriend to NZ my uncle farted a couple of times but just kept talking like nothing happened. Was so brilliant and entertaining to see the look on my bf's face!! I think as long as they're not smelly its ok... :D
Lived for 13 years in rural northern France. Then moved to NZ for 4 years so far. NZ Is beautiful and friendly. Personally I’d say nature as in mammals is so much better in France. NZ you have to drive to the bush walks and prob never see a deer or boar unless you are exploring . In France I could drive to work in any direction early in the morning and see deer. Fox, badger, stoats, etc wandering freely in the fields. There is a right to roam in France, so basically you can pass on foot through almost any field without permission from land owners. I took this for granted, and now in NZ It feels so restricted. NZ is a great place to live, but France is so free. Average rental for a 3 bed house in a rural village was 400 euros per month. My house there which is a 200mtr2 16th century farmhouse , stables and 2 hectares of land cost me 140,000 euros. What can you get in NZ for this ?.
The part about administrative procedures and mortgages makes me want to move to New Zealand ! But I assume it must be complicated to move there if you haves pets ?..
New Zealand sounds like the ideal country :) The only issue is that you need a car - I'm a European living in the US and still can't drive (after spending about 15 years out of the past 20 here), and it has it's limitations. I miss Europe for the beautiful architecture, nice bread, and walkability/trains/public transport... however, if we forget about the architecture and that you don't need a car in Europe, New Zealand sounds a million times better - near perfection! I get it about the complaining too - it's the same in the US, venting is not allowed or gets a very short occasional time slot instead of unlimited venting time.
You don't need a car here. I've been here 20 years n never driven. Public transport is excellent, as well as coaches n trains, n places are kinda close together relatively speaking. And folks do complain here. A lot. In fact, we've had to run away as fast as we can from many toxic people who just talk (bitch) about other people. But like anywhere u live, once u find like minded folks, all is good. A great thing is the lack of red tape here. It's fab. You can buy a house in a couple of days n sell a house within a few weeks. We did both. Crazy good. The only thing we really miss, other than fam' obvs, is the humour (n very cheap flights). Miss that British, sick, witty, sarcastic, black irony so... but we've been lucky enough to find a few mates that get us :)
@@bcoolfool1014 Interesting. I got the impression from Rosie's videos that you need a car. Though I guess maybe everything is relative and compared to France/Europe, it's different.
@@LauraPalmerD Yeah, yr right, everything is relative. We lived in Europe for 20 yrs n NZ for 20 years, n a few other places. We've lived all over NZ, n u don't need a car. I mean obvs, it's easier to have a car wherever u live, but not necessary here in NZ. I lived in Australia for a few years too, n there u do need a car. A lot of barefooted, pj cladded folks in malls there. In fact a lot of what she said, other than less red tape in NZ, I thought related to Oz n not NZ.
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Breast feeding is the perfect source of infant nourishment. If you can’t, you can’t, but NZ clearly understands the importance of encouraging/facilitating the use of this built in feeding system.
The problem tho is that if you can't (I couldn't but did try) there are a LOT of people out there (I even had nurses criticising me, last thing I needed as a 23 yr old first time mum) who guilt trip you n try to really force the issue that "breast is best" n you are treated as a failure if you don't. I had to bottle feed n not one person helped me with how much etc. By my 5 day check up at home my son was constantly crying etc n it turned out I was feeding him only 1/3 (per feed) of how much he should've been drinking. No one bothered to help me or explain things etc, they didn't bother because I wasn't breast feeding. It was AWFUL n I truly believe had a big part to play in the severity of my post natal depression.
Toxic positivity might be a factor in why the suicide rate is so high in New Zealand, even in their youth. It's important to validate people's feelings even when they're negative that is a part of the human experience.
I don't know how true it is that you can't vent in New Zealand, I think I've definitely vented to other kiwis and been vented to by other kiwis, maybe it's more of a North Island thing? I don't know, it's just not true for me and the people I know.
I totally agree Lucy. I lived in NZ for 6 years and didn't relate to this at all. I found the people just as negative and positive as anywhere else I've lived in and in fact one NZ who had just returned from Australia said she couldn't help comparing how gloomy New Zealanders were compared to Australians.
IMO, similar to New York City bagels, I am just not satisfied with any bagel or baguette so I do not buy unless I am in New York or France. One month to Marseilles, France ! Yay ! Again, just my opinion, there is no right or wrong with any choice of where or how to live. I love cities. I feel best when I am in a city. A car is necessary in Los Angeles. I could live without one, :-)
I spent 4 weeks in NZ earlier this year before lockdown, mostly in Air bnbs with local hosts. 1. I never heard anyone vent about anything. Also got the impression that is not okay to complain - either fix it or if you can't, there is no point in discussing it. 2. Kiwis drink a lot of alcohol when they go out or eat out and nobody thinks anything twice about drinking with the morning brunch. Despite NZ being a big spacious country, there is little parking to be had in places like Auckland, Wellington and Dunedin and people cheerfully walk to do all their errands, even up and down huge hills, rain or shine. 4. Cafe scene is AMAZING. 5. NZ is environentally conscious and an easy place to be a vegan. There are options on every menu if not a separate vegan menu. Thus surprised me since NZ is known for farming sheep and cows.
I had an acquaintance who lived in New Zeland for a period of her life, during which time, she underwent a psychotic break that called for her to be institutionalized. She commented on the kindness and warmth of the sisters there, how loving and caring people at large were towards her, and she was a foreigner. A little kiwi anecdote.
@@meganmatthews7611 She tried to kill herself and was put in a hospital. What's to you the minute technicalities implied by your reply, she might have received mental health assistance- for which she was very thankful- in a general hospital, in a ward where those type of patients get treatment. If a psychotic patient is agitated, threatening to hurt others, actively delirious in the midst of horrendous hallucinations, are you to tell me they take them to a farm to care for kiwis and blueberries? Aw how evolved! Get a grip
Hi Rosie, I must admitt that I agree with the french when it comes to having the child fit into your life rather than you having to change everything as a new parent . Also as a foodie I would love to know more about the food you eat, the dining culture, etc in New Zeeland. A comparison between France and New Zeeland dining experiewnce would be nice
@@karlmccartney3642 Thank you
I love your videos so much. Normally I get annoyed or bored with youtubers talking alot in their videos, but this has never happened watching your videos. They're so relevant, informative and funny!
ps. And tbh your videos have cheered me up during a really tough time in my life. Thank you.
I love your channel so much! I started watching your videos to get a native English speaker’s take on living in France, but I’ve ended up learning tons about New Zealand too and now I want to visit New Zealand as well! Sounds like a lovely place. Thanks for the work you do!
Love, love, love this video! I'm interested in everything you have to share about New Zealand. I spent five weeks there at the beginning of the year and cannot wait to return. It is truly a wondrous place.
Loved it! Such different cultures! I remember backpacking through NZ 30 years ago and thought of it like a big small town feel.
New Zealand sounds soooo beautiful! Can definately relate to the outdoors, pets as family and helpful citizens as I am Canadian. New Zealand is definately on my bucket list now! I have learned SO MUCH about France and life in France from your videos, comparing NZ to France is a great way to learn more! Love your videos, thank you for the heads up on skillshare! 💜
Not Even French I’m guessing you’ll particularly enjoy Montreal, for obvious reasons. 😄
You would love NZ, I lived in Canada for a while in Toronto and when I got to NZ I realised how much alike they are, masses of nature and outdoor space, people are friendly and helpful, always used to shock me in Canada when a complete stranger would suddenly start talking to me because of my accent (I am Welsh) and it’s a bit the same in NZ the only big difference is it does not drop to -15 in the winter lol.
I think Canada would be more similar to NZ, just because of the Commonwealth link
Hi! I'm currently 8 months pregnant living in France (from the UK originally) and I really think that breastfeeding is still considered the best option here, but as Rosie explained there is definitely more of an element of choice surrounding it. People will carefully ask you what you plan to do before saying what they think is best (breast is considered best - but if you say you don't want to, they won't push their views on you). Saying that, the few people I know who didn't breastfeed here have always seemed to feel the need to justify their choice, which shows that there is still judgement surrounding taking the option of not breastfeeding. If you decide to breastfeed (the vast majority of French women do, at least to start with) you get preparation classes from midwives during pregnancy, and as we are lucky enough to spend at least 48 hours in hospital after giving birth, you also have the time to consult a lactation specialist in the hospital and be given lots of advice and support. As far as I can tell women here do tend to stop breastfeeding slightly earlier than in some other countries, but this is linked to the fact that most women return to work very soon after their paid 10 weeks of leave. I hope future mums in France find this reassuring that the culture here is really not that different to elsewhere, you just have more of a personal choice in the matter and there definitely isn't an industry around it like in NZ! :)
@@NotEvenFrench Yes that's true, there's definitely a feeling from medical specialists that it should be a pleasure and a moment of bonding with your baby, and as soon as it's no longer enjoyable it's fine to move on to formula, which could come across as being pretty apathetic about the whole thing! That aspect I'm not a huge fan of, I want to be sure I'll be helped even if it's difficult! But like you said, everything in NZ seems so much more focussed on natural birth, my sister lives in NZ and had twins last year and I was confused when she asked me what I was planning to do with the cord and the placenta! I was like umm... probably not keep them if that's what you mean! We are encouraged to donate the cord to the hospital so they can extract the red and white blood cells though which is great :)
@@ailsavcrawley Your experience re- breastfeeding in France is quite different to mine. Like Rosie, I'm also a Kiwi but I live in the south of France, and i'd say the breastfeeding rate here might be 50/50, which is rather different to back home where there is a 'breast is best' kind of mentality. Even my sister in law (Parisian) explained to me that attitudes toward breastfeeding are still quite new, since formula was the norm until more recently. Many of my expat girlfriends have had similar experiences, with their French networks quite curious about the decision to breastfeed, since our inlaws generation generally didnt. During my cours de preparation and throughout each pregnancy, i recall hearing other women discussing whether they were/weren't breastfeeding, and there were lots of different reasons given for why some women weren't, including not wanting saggy breasts afterwards. I chose to breastfeed in public, even though I don't feel it is generally welcomed, and I even had to yell at someone once who felt it was his right to stare. Perhaps its the difference between city living and small town living but Rosie's explanation certainly reflects my experiences as a breastfeeding Kiwi living in France (p.s. I buried both placentas according to tradition ;-) )
@@sharellegovignon-sweet2781 I was thinking, hearing her, that breast feeding isn't very popular in public areas in France because of the owners of the places you would go to (some ask women to not breastfeed in their restaurant, library or wherever you find yourself doing it). So it's just that some people aren't open minded about it but I believe some women would like to do it, privately or not and just find themselves kicked out if they try publicly !
@@_bebeboudeur_ yes I agree, I do think that more women would like to. And within my French community I'd say the uptake is more breastfeeding women than not (but my particular crowd are perhaps more progressive than the norm). But definitly agree with you about it not being welcomed in public spaces. I even read an article about how France has one of the lowest breastfeeding rates in the OECD, and this is reflected in their attitudes. This particular article showed statistics about where the French thought breastfeeding was/wasn't acceptable. A cafe/restaurant isn't acceptable, for instance... which i find bizarre, since a cafe/resto is where we go to eat - baby included!
@@ailsavcrawley in France they donate the placenta to the hospital? Now I'm curious what they do with the placenta and cord blood in NZ?
Where I am there are quite a few traditions surrounding this with some giving the placenta a full blown religious funeral.
Think I can see that New Zealand definitely suits you more! You seem happier and freer. I'm relieved you are surprised how quick and easily you both got a mortgage. I'm older than you and I am embarking on that journey. I pray a kiwi assesses my application! Great attitude.
Great video! Love your reverse culture shocks. NZ sounds very natural and relaxed 😌 Hugs from Paris!
Nature is not a reverse culture shock. You just need to live outside a big city. I live in Haute-Savoie (northern french alps) and I can see from my window extraordinary landscapes.
Raphaël D For some strange reason they think that New Zealand is the only place in the world with beautiful scenery it is not
Superdude70 The problem is that when we as New Zealanders travel overseas we do the tourist roots we often do not meet the real people of the country and see the struggle they have as we do not see the people who are really struggling here
@@davidboyd8113 mate! Stfu lol u sound like a idiot.
@@davidboyd8113 WTF are you speaking about? I've been away from NZ for 26 years in 6 countries completely embedded in local cultures. I love it. I also agree that NZ does have nice scenery and landscape but so do many many places around the world. Quit making generalisations.
Your observations are spot on. I really enjoyed this.
I had reverse culture shock when coming back from the US in 2007 after 8 1/2 years. Things felt a little weird for a while. But one thing that was a real ray of sunshine was a Maori girl checking my Kiwi passport on my return at the airport in Auckland. "Welcome home!" she said! Ah yes I thought! Home! As a dual citizen I am an expat where ever I go. Michigan is my 'home' state away from home.
All of your videos are so helpful! American here wanting to move to New Zealand!
Thank you! I really enjoy your videos, you're so observant, and good luck with your fur babies.
We have traveled several times through France so love watching your videos. For any non French visitors, they are very insightful and great preparation for an upcoming trip.
Hope you liked your trip
I love your videos about New Zealand!😍 Thanks for the useful video, it's interesting what you said about parenting and paperwork! I live in Japan and paperwork can be complicated here ( kinda like France I guess)
I'm going to NZ for the first time next month! So excited! 😍
I really enjoyed this and the humor.
As a kiwi myself I find it really interesting to see what other people think about NZ
Lovely and very interesting video, thank you :)
Getting your driver's license in France sounds like the process we endure in South Africa. Waiting at a traffic department building or another of our most hated buildings: Home Affairs (a place to get identity documents, passports birth/death/marriage certificates), usually takes 5-6 hours before you achieve anything. Then you need to go back, wait in more queues for another 5-6 hours to collect said documents... If they're even ready.
I have no idea why this popped up in my recommended list, but I'm SO glad I watched it. As a kiwi mum of 2, with childlike pets lol, you are spot on in the way you describe how we are. I'm def going to sub n am looking forward to watching your other vids :)
Gumpie Gump~ you will soon find yourself wishing you lived next door to her.
Hey Rosie, just wanted to say that at 2.17 you say because “squarespace” are kind enough to sponsor this video but I think you meant skillshare just wanted to point it out to you in case it causes any issues with your sponsor
Damian Campbell my heart sank when I heard it, I really hope she notices. I can't imagine it'd go down well
HI from Auckland :) I stumbled across this video and found it enjoyable and interesting. I really do wish we were better at testing foreign drivers before handing them a licence ...and that's my rant. Thanks!
Big Suze got mighty pissed when a big lug burped right next to her. She was so mad that she said, "Excuse me! Can you please not!" Big fella, was caught off guard and said, "Sorry."
Fizzy drink at lunch in France? Champagne ! 🍸
Or maybe beer in Hauts-de-France or cider in Bretagne ^^
Great video, Ms Rosie! Very informative. You look great, too. If you have time I would love to see you do another collaboration video. Also, have you considered a trip to Québec to experience the different French culture there? Take care & be safe.
Ha Ha, yeah half of France is moving to Quebec now.
I was nodding along, thinking everything you said about NZ applied to Australia, until you mentioned your online health hub. That's so innovative and convenient! I wonder why we don't do that as well?
Also I've heard from friends that it's really hard for foreigners to visit the doctor in Australia, whereas in France it was super easy and only cost 20€.
We do have a centralised health hub in France though...
@@NotEvenFrench Depends, they're allowed to charge whatever they want. Around my area, it's between 10lt0 and 130 per consult.
So in NZ one actually has to pay to visit their doctors?
@@marahbadrian I dont know about NZ but in Australia there are some doctors' practices located in lower socioeconomic areas or on university campuses where you don't have to pay anything and others where you initially pay $70-80 but then are later refunded a percentage of this. Many people who can't afford or don't want to pay to go to the doctor go to the emergency department at a public hospital, which is always free.
Having had a baby in nz I can confirm the pressure mothers feel around child birth and mothering. I had to have an epidural, then emergency csection, the shame I felt about this took a looong time to get over. Breast feed through cracked, bleeding nipples. I look back now and wonder why I put myself through so much anguish.
I definitely agree with the venting yeah in NZ they try to stop you from doing it saying be positive or if you keep going they'll tell you to stop being negative. Least over the past few years I had a good friends that traveled over the past few years like myself can understand the venting. Only people who are really good friends kind of let you vent.
Yeah I had to renew my driver's license recently and got a new one in a week. It's a quick process.
Had to look after my family's home since the roof of the conservatory and the garage got damaged from the hail and the the neighbors got up and helped. NZ people are friendly and helpful despite when I was young at times I didn't think so but priories change and we grow up.
Rosie I love this! I’ve just finished reading Pamela Druckermans bringing up bebé - a US Mom bringing up children in Paris. Really intriguing, as you say babies fit into the family there much more so than anglophone culture.
I love these type of videos!
Have an awesome day x
I was in 2006 and. 2008 last time. Wondering how much has been changed?
Here is an idea. I notice a conspicuous absence of you hubby. What is HIS take on New Zealand culture? What is HE liking and not. His perspective would be really interesting. Best regards from your latest subscriber. Glen
LOVED this video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love the part about the sudden interest in birds! Can TOTALLY relate! New Zealanders sound A LOT like people from southern California!
Super interesting, especially the parenting stuff, I had no idea. Great video.
Also: what do you mean no epidural? 😱😱😱
Plenty of people get epidurals. At least I've known a few to get them.
I would love New Zealand. I was raised in Colorado, and later lived in Utah, USA, where the outdoors are THE thing. I didn't realize that France (outside of the big cities) was so citified. What about the South of France, or Northern France?
As an Australian (married to a Kiwi) who has lived in the US for the past decade, my biggest shock when we started looking at schools for our girls was that kids would come to school with NO SHOES.. And this was Rotorua in the middle of winter!! I love that the kids are connected (physical) to the world around them but I just about fell over in shock.
Lol
Spartacus Maximus I’m perplexed how you would draw that conclusion from my comment. New Zealander have a more relaxed and connected, with their environment, lifestyle. It’s just different. As an outsider, with links to the country, I can appreciate these differences while still finding them distinctive.
@Spartacus Maximus hey mate, I wear bare feet regularly and I've never been in contact with drugs. Maybe you hung around with the wrong crowds but come on man, you get what you ask for. You sound very victimized yourself.
Yay you finally got highlights again! As an American hairstylist I'm loving it! 😂🖤 I know from your videos Parisians don't do as much blonde with their hair.
There's a cliche about being blonde connected to being dumb, that might be why we don't do it as much (unless it's natural I guess) :')
Chur from Wairoa in New Zealand if you know where that is. Wairoa isn’t known very well but it’s just in between Napier and Gisborne. Churr
Wellington is quite small town compare to paris --the city look like la defense in Paris
as you know the french to not like skyscrapers but the life quality seem to be nice there
vous semblez plus heureuse chez vous que chez nous !
On fizzy drink for me as french: only coca cola when I have to attend a lunch but I have a hangover.
I totally agree with you about the parenting style. I'm Polish and I think that we share a lot in common when it comes to the way we raise and discipline children. I try to avoid topics about parenting when I speak with my French colleagues, I feel that they would think I'm crazy if I told them that we co-sleep with our kids. In France, not only newborn are often put to sleep in a separate bed, but also in a separate room, and often one floor above their parents' room..Once I remember someone telling me proudly how their baby is sleeping through the night at a very young age, only after I learned that they sleep trained it, but letting it cry for 40 minutes at the age of maybe 2 months or something like that...they admitted it was tough on them and devastating, but, in their opinion, it was the right thing to do...
On the other hand, I do have to admit that the French kids are very, very well-behaved (e.g. asking if they can leave the table after eating, etc), just, I ask myself at what cost....
Have you seen this Tedx talk? ruclips.net/video/VeDeIeJAFEU/видео.html
I'm afraid the speaker from this TED confuses "râler" with a lack of pure, organic attention for her kids...
there a re a lot of rules especially when u climb the social ladder, but well...that is make the french education...french education....british one is similar to ours (and more rigid). we tend to consider babies/kids as individuals (small ones tho) so they have their room/bed but not too assisted ( if a baby cry, there s a reason, i wwouldn t let my new born babies cry for 40mn because they are hungry or cold or else..., not even 5mn). wwhen u say the well behaviour, it is the consequence of a constant reminder of rules at the table or daly behaviour, "say thx u, can i leave the table, dont eat with your mouth filled, dont eat with your mouth opened, hold the door for people, dont, dont dont or do that, do that....and so on in the 125896245 behaving everyday rules until it s printed in the brain.... (like the brits), education is a form of animal training but for humans.... :), pretty much like the calculation tables....training....and u know them for life.... ^^. as for the Tedx vid, i tend to agree with u, she has moire a problem with attention toward her kids than raler ( = disagree with a current situation or unhappy with something)
@@vaudou74. As my Grand Ma used to say when I was crying, being a toddler: cry as long as you want, you’ll piss less later.
My French friends must be very forward thinking lol. They have loads of pets,mainly cats,but,I know every single one of them is adored x I also know my friend regularly visits the shelter with donations and will regularly rescue animals from there.Farting is normal in their family,normally laughed at,but there are a lot of young males in the family,so that is probably why.When it comes to kids though,they are stricter,its more like when I was growing up in the late 70s,early 80s,very much about respect and young teenagers are still referred to as children and there are rules that have to be followed.The kids are happy and well rounded,very polite too.
Wait, you’re in wellington??? I live in wellington! There’s a chance I might bump into you (if you’re still here) because wellington is so small
As an American I think New Zealand sounds like about the best place on earth. Also, talk about burying the lede . . . FOSTER KITTENS??? We need a video about that.
D.E. S Yes, @Not Even French! Foster kittens, please! (I enjoy all your topics, but I’m a huge fan of kittens.)
New Zealand sounds lovely
If NZ took the long administrative approach to getting a driver's licence there may be less accidents involving tourist.
Fewer accidents would be great.
Pretty sure tourists can drive in France without the French licence. So your point is moot
I can soooo relate to the reverse culture thing; I left New Zealand in June 1980 and came back in September 2006 ie. 26 years!!! I should do a video on it. haha
I have driven today in paris , périphérique and the suburb créteil ... i wonder how you could live in paris with this very big traffic jam ! I have returned in'my province quickly. Lol
I heard there are 2 countries in the world that allows advertising prescription drugs directly to consumers on TV: The US and NZ. Is it true?
Hi! You talked about native birds in NZ. Could you make a video about biodiversity conservation and controversy in NZ? What is the public opinion about pest control? But it's probably a touchy subject. Cheers from France
You are a person one wants to be friends with ♡
Love your channel for so long :)
Yes, New Zealanders are nice and friendly, except on the road lol. They are some of the world's most unkind and uncourteous drivers.
Marco Monti , take my advice, fuck off.
Mate, you need to visit the Middle East! I live in the UAE and people drive so much worse here compared to NZ
Oh, hi Peter Olsen. I think I saw you yesterday on the road lol
After spending a year there I absolutely agree with that. This is what I've been telling everyone, kiwis are pretty unpleasant drivers but aside from that great people haha
I disagree. NZ is like Canada, very nice people, a bit pushy on the road but nothing too bad. Italy has the worst drivers for me, by far. They just don't respect anything outside the cities. And in the cities they go slow only because there's a speed camera every 200 m. For the best drivers, I'd say Australia or Sweden. France is somewhere in the middle.
Rosie I love all your reports, both from France and from NZ.
I hope you move to another country soon :-))
If im gonna be honest like I am french. I studied 5 years in the UK... when I came back I really realised that the culture/ identity in France is not making french ppl happy. Like we complain, we always criticise, we are not very friendly, we are stingy, cold and sometimes rude. I'm not saying we are all like that. But when I went abroad I slightly felt after 5 years that I was losing my French identity and becoming way more laid back. However I then came back to France, and I started to catch up again with French mentality... and now that I can have a critical look over this... I swear I love loads of things about France but the mentality... I feel so much happier abroad where I feel like I can walk to the corner shop with tracksuits on, do whatever I feel like I want to do... I think we French ppl need to chill. Lol but at the end I think this come all down to our government. It is not doing what it s right in term of education and is creating such an upset society....
Hello, you mentioned you are fostering a cat. Thank you. Have you become involved with rescues? Currently, we have two fosters plus three of our own. One is a "foster failure". So gratifying (and bitter sweet) to be able to find these beauties forever homes.
The dress code thing isn't that bad, it's the constant negativity/complaining/criticizing which really drags us down. It's a real poison for mental health.
blaming the governement for everything is also a french trait
I've been to France several times and have always loved it. Some of the towns are bit grubby, dog shit on the footpaths etc but the way French women dress (in Paris anyway!) is inspiring. You should be proud of your culture!
Hey, not sure if you already have a video on this but would you have any tips as a tourist (not a immigrant) from New Zealand going to France? Would they let tourists "get away" with more? Thanks! :)
I love our bird culture in New Zealand
That's crazy about the mortgage. I don't think anyone in your circumstances would get a mortgage that easily in the US.
They are not mortgages in NZ they are home loans so it’s a little bit different, when we first got here and we decided to buy a house we went to the bank to find out about a mortgage and they were like hang on tap tap on keyboard and they were like there you go you have been pre-approved up to x amount so just go find a house. It shocked us a bit, so much different from the UK.
Banks need debt. They'll lend on anything. Mortgagee sales usually cover the amount owed.
I ❤️ loved it ! 👍👍
I want to live on this easy paperworks island !
Checking out skillshare!
I like the Kiwi laid back culture really. Sorry but the French can be a little overly showponies😁. Not all but many. I'm sure your hubby is not, since he's married a lovely kiwi 😊💕. Being natural, open is refreshing. And for us too our kitty is our baby and we strongly believe that is how it's meant to be.
And y'all dont think living in NZ is so damn expensive?
Paris is one of the three most expensive cities in the world, so they probably think NZ is pretty cheap
@@Lililililili333 Untill you look at our housing costs
My experience living in Wellington was a bit different from yours in regards to the venting. I would say that at first it might be more positive conversations but after I got to know my coworkers more we would often have a yarn about our shitty work environment.
Shock #1 makes its seem like we're a country of Walmart shoppers
I had never heard about that barefoot thing, until I saw a picture of Chris Hemsworth and his wife walking about barefoot. I know they're in Australia, but I guess they do that there too. I'm never barefoot even in my own house. Also if I couldn't burp in front of my friend, then they're not really my friend. New Zealand has always sounded amazing to me, I would love to live there. France doesn't sound great, I have to say. Having lived half my life in Puerto Rico I'm used to friendly, non judgy people. The DMV does suck here too though. It's normal to wait many hours and then get turned away because you don't have one document. I remember having arrived there at 8:00 am and leaving at 3:00 pm.
"Really nice walks and breathing the sea air". Well, you can do that in many places in France, you know XD
Moved here a year ago,
Positives,
it’s the perfect place, the outdoor lifestyle is amazing, and they are VERY helpful and friendly, and the amount of things to do is amazing
Negatives
although if you think you can make friends fast , think again, unless sports are involved they are not very social,
The reason why we like our pets better is because they are less conniving, more trusting than many humans overseas.
I'm in the US and pets are definitely part of the family, at least with myself and my family.
I love New Zealand 💙
I feel like helping people is more so something that English speakers do, so people from the UK, US, Australia too... but definitely not very common in France! 😅
« And the baby will adapt » 🤣.
Having had 2 son, I’d say « the parents will adapt », for sure 😃.
Touche la french!
living in a small town in Germany, 44.000, and i visited a big town in NZ, Levine, 5.000.... NZ is only nature, nice to look at or driving thru with a motorbike, but i would never move there, i need Europe, Paris in the summer, Switzerland in the winter, drops in Amsterdam and waffels in Brussels etc, i need my local castell and good german bread, polish sausages...and Austrian whine... i like the kiwis, with 2 legs and without feathers and the round ones to eat..
I had my baby in NZ and everyone I met there thought it was REALLY weird that the baby slept in our room as a new born! This is standard practice in the UK. People kept asking when we were going to move her down the corridor and shut her door. I was horrified. Incidentally over half of my natal group didn't breast feed: all NZers. I really does depend on who you are taking to. This was in Nelson.
Onvie Kade weird. This isn’t my experience here.
@@fabiana_bdb I'm so pleased to hear that. I sought out the local la leche league to try and find more like minded mums.
this is a really cool video but as a new zealander who has lived out of new zealand for most of my life until about 2 years ago i cant say that my family and me have had the same experience, my mum whos asian had to redo her drivers test and paid heaps of money to convert her licence, and the racism that my family faces as well as the systematic racism towards maori here is crazy, it's so wonderful that your experience with coming back to nz was great but i think it cant be relatable for the non-pakeha community here. not saying i dont love this place at all, but the experience for a person of color is just a little different.
Amy Sefont Thanks for this. I’ve heard that Maoris are much better integrated in NZ than aborigines in Australia, but that doesn’t mean everything is okay.
Actually it depends in which country you got your drivers licence, as they are not all created equal.
@@nem447 love that u added a hint of racism in there, really tasteful :)
it's not racism, it's discrimination
@@amysefont1302 I'm struggling to get from the statement "Actually it depends in which country you got your drivers licence, as they are not all created equal" to racism. NZTA makes it clear ... "To prove that you are familiar with our road rules and can drive safely, some people will need to sit theory tests and practical driving tests. The tests you need to sit depend on the country your licence is from." Criteria are "Some countries require similar driving skills and have similar licensing systems to New Zealand’s. These countries are considered exempt countries". Which they then list. Where is the racism?
Wow as for animals I’d say that the French that I know really love their pets. And animals are welcome in more places, such as restaurants, in France. I wasn’t living in Paris however so that might be the difference.
Im watching your videos cause I wanna learn more about New Zealand to possibly move there. I must say Im shocked at how much Im learning that France is really completely out of my personal morals. I dont mean this is a rude way, but I find it really sad that its rare to see women in france breastfeeding in public. Its just sad to me that even if you want to breastfeed (tho its ok if you dont) you have to hide it, given that breast are literally there to feed possible babies I personally (again, my opinion) and its just nature...I find frustrating that some places in the world make women feel like they have to hide it or that its weird or uncomfortable.
Interesting insight. I was in France 20 years ago and can remember the people being friendly and nice, moreso than in the 80's when no one would speak to you in English. France has very beautiful architecture too, nice country.
I love your channel and worldview....I had planned on living in France for a time but plans fell through and I've always wanted to visit New Zealand. I have lived a lot of places in the United States, however have grown up and spent most of my time in the Pacific Northwest and from that perspective I would say here we are a combination of French lifestyle and New Zealand lifestyle. It's always interesting to see cultures and what presses my own buttons. Great job!
Two classes in nz wealthy nd poor. Poor are getting poorer to cost of living is horrendous and houses are way over priced nd wages are low
I think NZ isn't the only place with that sort of problem
You made me wanna live in New Zeland ! Beautiful video
Haha! That is hilarious about the etiquette to do with politeness with bodily functions. I'm a kiwi in the UK and often tease my closer friends with such things! When I took my English boyfriend to NZ my uncle farted a couple of times but just kept talking like nothing happened. Was so brilliant and entertaining to see the look on my bf's face!! I think as long as they're not smelly its ok... :D
That's absolutely minging and not the NZ I recall.
@@js9273 Well, that's the NZ I recalll
PS.That should say Diane Barker not David - I will have to change that.
Lived for 13 years in rural northern France. Then moved to NZ for 4 years so far. NZ Is beautiful and friendly. Personally I’d say nature as in mammals is so much better in France. NZ you have to drive to the bush walks and prob never see a deer or boar unless you are exploring . In France I could drive to work in any direction early in the morning and see deer. Fox, badger, stoats, etc wandering freely in the fields. There is a right to roam in France, so basically you can pass on foot through almost any field without permission from land owners. I took this for granted, and now in NZ It feels so restricted. NZ is a great place to live, but France is so free. Average rental for a 3 bed house in a rural village was 400 euros per month. My house there which is a 200mtr2 16th century farmhouse , stables and 2 hectares of land cost me 140,000 euros. What can you get in NZ for this ?.
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The part about administrative procedures and mortgages makes me want to move to New Zealand ! But I assume it must be complicated to move there if you haves pets ?..
Your hair changed a lot since you came to NZ XD it's very light in color now, hehe
Isn't the Tuatara a native to NZ?.
Thorfinn986_doesn't_do_average Yes indeed.
New Zealand sounds like the ideal country :) The only issue is that you need a car - I'm a European living in the US and still can't drive (after spending about 15 years out of the past 20 here), and it has it's limitations. I miss Europe for the beautiful architecture, nice bread, and walkability/trains/public transport... however, if we forget about the architecture and that you don't need a car in Europe, New Zealand sounds a million times better - near perfection! I get it about the complaining too - it's the same in the US, venting is not allowed or gets a very short occasional time slot instead of unlimited venting time.
You don't need a car here. I've been here 20 years n never driven. Public transport is excellent, as well as coaches n trains, n places are kinda close together relatively speaking. And folks do complain here. A lot. In fact, we've had to run away as fast as we can from many toxic people who just talk (bitch) about other people. But like anywhere u live, once u find like minded folks, all is good. A great thing is the lack of red tape here. It's fab. You can buy a house in a couple of days n sell a house within a few weeks. We did both. Crazy good. The only thing we really miss, other than fam' obvs, is the humour (n very cheap flights). Miss that British, sick, witty, sarcastic, black irony so... but we've been lucky enough to find a few mates that get us :)
@@bcoolfool1014 Interesting. I got the impression from Rosie's videos that you need a car. Though I guess maybe everything is relative and compared to France/Europe, it's different.
@@LauraPalmerD Yeah, yr right, everything is relative. We lived in Europe for 20 yrs n NZ for 20 years, n a few other places. We've lived all over NZ, n u don't need a car. I mean obvs, it's easier to have a car wherever u live, but not necessary here in NZ. I lived in Australia for a few years too, n there u do need a car. A lot of barefooted, pj cladded folks in malls there. In fact a lot of what she said, other than less red tape in NZ, I thought related to Oz n not NZ.
How did you feel about the increase in homeless in New Zealand?
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Breast feeding is the perfect source of infant nourishment. If you can’t, you can’t, but NZ clearly understands the importance of encouraging/facilitating the use of this built in feeding system.
The problem tho is that if you can't (I couldn't but did try) there are a LOT of people out there (I even had nurses criticising me, last thing I needed as a 23 yr old first time mum) who guilt trip you n try to really force the issue that "breast is best" n you are treated as a failure if you don't. I had to bottle feed n not one person helped me with how much etc. By my 5 day check up at home my son was constantly crying etc n it turned out I was feeding him only 1/3 (per feed) of how much he should've been drinking. No one bothered to help me or explain things etc, they didn't bother because I wasn't breast feeding. It was AWFUL n I truly believe had a big part to play in the severity of my post natal depression.
Toxic positivity might be a factor in why the suicide rate is so high in New Zealand, even in their youth. It's important to validate people's feelings even when they're negative that is a part of the human experience.
You said the video was sponsored by squarespace- not skillshare?
I heart NZ!
Did you get french citizenship?
I don't know how true it is that you can't vent in New Zealand, I think I've definitely vented to other kiwis and been vented to by other kiwis, maybe it's more of a North Island thing? I don't know, it's just not true for me and the people I know.
I totally agree Lucy. I lived in NZ for 6 years and didn't relate to this at all. I found the people just as negative and positive as anywhere else I've lived in and in fact one NZ who had just returned from Australia said she couldn't help comparing how gloomy New Zealanders were compared to Australians.
Yeah here in Auckland everyone likes to complain about something
IMO, similar to New York City bagels, I am just not satisfied with any bagel or baguette so I do not buy unless I am in New York or France. One month to Marseilles, France ! Yay ! Again, just my opinion, there is no right or wrong with any choice of where or how to live. I love cities. I feel best when I am in a city. A car is necessary in Los Angeles. I could live without one, :-)
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