"If you don't love me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best" or "Nobody recognized me until I put the Steel type on" is the simplest synopsis of describing Goodra's competitive viability, but it & Dragonite are still the only ones who don't look intimidating and make for the sweetest friends outside of battling.
@@thisisnami6054 I wouldn’t mind if the pseudos are the only truly powerful “normal” Pokémon in lore as long as we get a lot more that aren’t dragon types
Just wait for the gen 5 remakes where we get the volcarona evolution with magic guard and access to the signature move, Solar flare, which is 70 BP special fire move with +1 priority that sets up harsh sunlight.
Recently subscribed to help the fight against Iron Mugulis. I think we need the help of Sinistea's great grandfather Fearsome Flagon, another Ground type with the ability Protosynthesis and the move Half Empty, which is rumored to move all hazards on your side to the opponent's side, and instantly KOs the opponent, but only works below half HP, otherwise it only acts as Endure, again allegedly. Who knows what it really does? I also heard he was a war hero back in the day. Given how old he is, he might need the herba mystica? Edit: oh yeah. I've also heard him called "Flaming Flagon", so maybe he's a ground/fire type?
The Goomy line deserved so much better. I’m not just talking battle-wise, either (they deserve to be Water/Dragon and get Recover, just throwing it out there). In X and Y, where they debuted, you could only get it right before the Fairy gym. In Sun, Moon, and the Ultra games, you could only get them through SOS chaining in the rain. Then they were exclusive to Shield and you could only get them then in the late-game (again, only in the rain). Who at GameFreak caught a grudge for a slug?
Wow I never thought about that but Dragon/Water makes a ton of sense for it and would give it a more defined identity. It would make more sense as a bulky attacker without being overbearing because of its offensive stats. It would also make it less of a head scratcher when thinking about how to slot it into your team. It's also pretty telling that the most popular tera for it in gen 9 is water lol. Tera water Goodra/Goodra-H with Sap Sipper and Muddy Water spam is pretty good. Gamefreak how could you
Goodra probably have the biggest identity crisis ever seen in a pokemon, if they gave him a less situational ability like regenerator or sheer force and made a new spread it would have absolutely thrived as a wall or wall breaker
Pseudos are so interesting in gen 3 cause you can customize them so much, instead of just running max speed max attack. That's also why I think Dragapult is well designed, since you can run whacky sets despite it being fast
@@jebalitabb8228 No it wasn’t? For one, it released the Gen after fairy types, for two, it had clangorus soulblaze in gen7. Even after z moves were taken away it still had really solid stats typing and a movepool. It’s currently UUBL in both SS and SV which is not what I’d consider useless at all.
Jim has said this a bunch of times before, mostly on the Dragapult video, but to him "interesting and nuance" for a pokemon's stat design is basically "subvert expectations of how this pokemon would be used by giving it's stronger attacking stat the weaker movepool and the weaker one a ton of options". That and it does more than just click stab moves while having a bunch of sets.
I do like how most of the Pseudos can be used as mixed attackers to some extent since it allows for more variety. Like ice beam Dragonite/Ttar, Salamence obviously, Draco Chomp, Superpower Hydreigon, EQ Goodra, even Grass Knot/HP Fire Metagross in some metas. Dragapult and Kommo-o are the kings of this, imo since I've seen them use physical or special sets pretty equally. As much as I like Baxcalibur and enjoy sweeping with it, there isn't much to explore with it bc it's very clear that it's supposed to come in on a fire move and use physical STAB moves (or EQ) every time. It can Freeze Dry but it's weaker than using a STAB move anyway bc of how strong its physical moves are and the gap between its attack and Sp.attack. The only decision is whether to run DD, SD, or banded.
I really like listening to you talk about gen 3 meta. It seems really nuanced which is nice. The new gens definitely have less nuance and more power so the game becomes more like rock, paper, scissors than it was in gen 3.
I feel like after a certain point, they started overtuning and optimizing mons to make it very obvious how they're supposed to be played (in this gen especially, but Volc Quiver Dancing was a good example he brought up from gen 5). Like how Chi-Yu and Chien-Pao were clearly specifically made to do nothing except spam their special and physical STAB moves, respectively, bc of their abilities. Even non-legends like Espathra and Annihilape basically having one set each that got them banned bc they received such powerful combinations of traits. Or how the starters this gen all got amazing signature moves (with no drawbacks) that typically outclass any other STAB move they have while still having great coverage, abilities, and stat distributions. Not that we didn't have mons like this before, but the power creep is super obvious this gen because so many mons are like this now. I feel like they would usually give mons actual limitations in previous gens, give them multiple ways to be used, or at least make it less obvious what the optimal sets would be.
you talking about the many sets the Ttar can run made me realize, Gen 9 has 5 new Pokemon (not counting Hisui yet) that can run more than 2 viable sets: Meowscarada, Dudunsparce, Gholdengo, Great Tusk and Iron Valiant. With Dudun being the only one that can run different playstyles (bulky sweeper [both physical or special], specs, hazard, paraflinch, phaser and more) All the other ones might change a coverage move or two, but basically play the same. A lot of them don't have a good movepool to run any other set, and even the some that do, will just run their best set.
Over the course of the video I realized how most of the Pseudos can run several different sets or at least have done so throughout their history. Older Pseudos definitely, and Hydreigon got a lot of mileage out of Nasty Plot. Goodra can play around with different items and moves to hit what it needs to. In the limited time it was usable outside of Nat Dex, Kommo-o went through about 1000 different sets bc it got almost every relevant set up move in the game. Pult has at least 3-4 viable sets. Unfortunately, as satisfying as a Baxcalibur sweep can be, it's very clear that it's supposed to come in on a fire move and muscle through the opponent with physical STAB moves (or EQ) every time. The only decision is whether you want to run DD, SD, or banded. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
I made an assault vest goodra team, got to top 700 on it in ranked, GOODRA FOR THE WIN! Feint, Draco meteor Muddy water Thunderbolt Lives 2 attacks from fluttermane, even more if it tera waters. Basically invincible in terms of special defense
Managed to talk about Dragonite being annoying for like three minutes without once mentioning t-wave wrap in gen 1. They made a big cool dragon and then decided that it would never do anything but ruin your day.
Goodra is slept on. It's a cool bulky setup mon that can function as a curse/acid armor win con, as a acid spray wall breaker, or just a AV attacker or special tank (it requires little ev investment to be a special tank anyway without av). Something like curse, dragon claw/tail, eq, firepunch. Or acid spray, draco/dragon pulse, with two filler special coverage moves. Its two big weaknesses are mediocre turn 1 defense without setup or heavy investment & no non-item way to boost its speed. As far as aesthetics go, its line is very good. It combines one of the most easily recognized enemy types; the slimes with another popular fictional creature known as a dragon 🐉. Slimes are usually some of the weakest enemy rpg enemies you fight (goomy's pokedex entries usually refer to it as the weakest dragon type), but dragons are usually tough to either kill or occupy strong enemy types. Having its aesthetic be land slug-like (or snail-like with hisui goodra) with the feelers while having a cute draconic touch is a very stark contrast to some of the more gruff looking pseudo-legendaries. Hydration & sap sipper are acceptable abilities & have their place. Gooey is very niche & should have gotten a buff to make it into some kind of unique status effect + stat drop that results in a stage 1 speed drop for 3-4 turns if contact is made. The goo dissipates, but the speed drop still persists on the pokemon that made contact even if a switch out occurs. Overall, it might be the weakest pseudo for prioritizing bulk & having more situational abilities, but it's no slouch with its unpredictability, great typing, & nice abilities.
I love using goodra and I can't wait for hisuian goodra to drop because it's just straight up better. I love switching in on any special attack with it and eating it like a beast and just threatening a KO with a high damage attack like draco meteor or one of its other high damage coverage moves and then resting up with a chesto berry to heal
Your definition of pseudo legendary was very, uh, elegant but if you need the actual definition it’s a 3 stage mon with 600 BST and about an 80% chance of being a dragon. That list doesn’t include gengar. No, not even if it’s specifically gen3 gengar.
Dragonite should be higher on the list. It has had different playing styles in most generations. The hyper offensive isn't the only strategy that works for dragonite, unlike some other psuedos
Algorithm pleasing vid + Gen 3 OU layered in = certified classic. Interesting to see the development of mons niches from gen to gen, for better or worse lol.
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My list is 1.Dragapult 2.Garchomp 3.Salamence 4.Tyranitar 5.Metagross 6.Dragonite 7.Hydreigon 8.Baxcalibur 9.Goodra-Hisui 10.Goodra 11.Kommo-o My list is more based on favorites and not power
@@kefkapalazzo1 yah Dragapult is my fav Pokémon all time and Garchomp is my 3rd only split as Haxorus is my 2nd since it got dethroned from 1st via Dragapult
"It's not like a Volcarona Quiver Dance" Honestly, in Gen 8 everything you said about DD Salamance applies to Volc as well. You have no Hidden Power, Z-moves, or Tera to break through counters. Heatran and Blissey pretty much invalidate everything Volc can do. It's also easily out-sped at +1 by common threats and kept in check by priority users. It requires a ton of skill in Gen 8 to achieve Volc win conditions. In gen 9 it's easier but still far from trivial.
The thing with TTar is that in its most prominent generations ( 2nd and 3rd) it is the most competetively viable pokemon available, without being overpowered in almost any way. Theres always an answer to Tyranitar, but at the same time Tyranitar always has an answer to everything else. Its speed limits the strength of its dragon dances, and its typing limits the strength of its defense and hp stats. TTar has a whopping SEVEN weaknesses in the earlier generations, out of 17 total types thats a huge majority, yet its defensively bulky enough to make these weaknesses not game ending for it, unlike some other pokemon ( looking at you Exeggutor). With a gigantic movepool and viability with both physical and special movesets, it always has a place on teams, but not once do you send out TTar in gen 3 and think "well this games over now". This is why I think the gens 1-3 pseudos are so good. They are amazing, but its not game ending for you if they start to suit up either.
I'd have Dragonite at the bottom because of how let down I was as a kid when my cool ass awesome looking Dragonair turned into a damn dragon tales character
i think what makes these mons so interesting is that they can suffer from "useless stat syndrome" and still be good. But because of that they also get cool niches like mixed attacking and tank sets. A couple go too far maybe like goodra, and gross though, they are both sort of invested in both attack styles, but then hyper invest in a defensive stat and have too many useless stats depending on the set. Dragapult is an example of those two that investing into mixed then dumped a ton into speed, but ofc speed compliments attack stats, and is even good stand alone unlike def which requires hp, ability, and move pool as back up. T-tar is actually the 'worst' of the bunch but gets carried by its ability. sand chip, and sp def boost make it a 650 bst and if sand was calced as his damage in a stats section where mons are ranked based on average damage done per fight he tops the list for most gens im sure.
Hisuain Goodra gonna be so good. 252 SpD 252 HP. 4 Def. Leftovers. Terra Steel/Dragon Acid Armor, Body Press, Protect, Heavy Slam/Earthquake Edit: Shell Armor as ability
You are 100% correct about dragonite being cheesey. Even all the way back in RBY he just cheesed all of UU with wrap stall. However i love his goofey ass anyways tera normal extreme speed away boys!
You're my guy sir Timothy but your disrespect of kyurem-b shall not go unnoticed. It actually has a reason to be visually incohensive due to it being a fusion, Bax on the other hand looks like a bowling pin with a bunch of random features added on like those goofy red claws over it's actual hands, it looking more like a steel than ice type, and glued on face. Now Bax's paradox form on the other hand, gallant glacier, is a truly great design.
Jimothy, what do you think of the viability of Choice Scarf Tyranitar in Gen 9 OU? With a Hasty Nature and 120 Sp.Atk EVs (if I recall correctly) it can always 2 shot offensive and physically defensive Great Tusk, and can work as an effective lure, as Scarf is so uncommon ppl would not withdraw Tusk, thinking it is faster and staying in for the kill. + it can be given enough speed to outrun Iron Moth, and the remaining points can be invested in attack. Even though it’s not going max, it still is very powerful, Iron Moth and Volcarona have to Tera to escape it, and special variants of Dragapult still have to fear, as it’s still very bulky, and can take an attack, to later retaliate with a Crunch that will KO. Gholdengo is still very much threatened too. Only bulky Kingambit is not 2 Shot by Earthquake, and if it decides to Tera Flying to escape the Ground weakness, it would fall victim to Tyranitar’s Rock Stab
I remember switching my physical defensive Bronzong on gen 4 on Metagross just to be beated by the meteor mash shenanigans as EQ failed to 2hko and mash doing now 7252 damage 😢
We need a Bug-type pseudo in the next gen! A duel type with steel, dragon, or fire, and I'd be happy. Or maybe ghost? We still only have one of those and it's not a serious mon.
Goodra is somewhat decent when paired with Assault Vest because of its superb coverage on top of its above average special bulk. This lets you tank special hits even without investment. I feel like not having an outstanding ability that synergizes with this playstyle is what is really holding it back. Gooey doesn't really work well with Goodra only having 70 Defense, Hydration is alright but there are much better options available if you want a Pokemon that does well in Rain, and Sap Sipper would be nice on a Water Type but Goodra already resists Grass and thus gaining an Immunity to it doesn't feel that amazing? Also, it's boosts Attack rather than Special Attack which feels bad when Goodra has higher base Special Attack than Attack alongside better Special Attacking moves than Physical ones (besides Earthquake, but at that point just use Garchomp instead?)
Metagross is my favorite pseudo and I loved using it in gen 6 with Klefki screen support and weakness policy. At the time most people ran the mega Metagross instead, and it was so cool to see the WP set become pretty much standard in gen 8. Love pseudos that aren’t dragons.
17:53 Iron Mugulis is obviously responsible for this. Speaking of which, I was shaving when I heard the grim news about Iron Mugulis possibly appearing in the hit documentary series Fortnite. I was so shocked I accidentally nicked my neck and now have a square of toilet paper on my neck to show for it. This menace has to be stopped.
I think Goodra is cool in OMs where it can get either a recovery move or regenerator since especially with regenerator it becomes a pretty neat guy who does damage and is bulky. Also with regenerator it's probably my favorite assault vest user because it can both contribute well to how I like to play and be bulky as hell on the special side. ... honestly why didn't they give it regenerator? Like give Goomy a recovery move so both Goodra and H-Goodra get it and make Goodra have Regenerator over one of it's abilities, probably hydration so it parallels H-Goodra but honestly Sap Sipper can just go too and make that the one Shell Armor Replaces on H-Goodra so both have Hydration. Now H-Goodra and base Goodra work well as bulky attackers and can recover well while not needing leftovers and there's a reason to use base Goodra over Better Goodra other than some additional weaknesses from the steel type.
Hydreigon doesn't feel that good to me competitively plus it evolves so late it's impractical in a playthrough of BW...but in name concerns, it's top tier....its name is peak punnage Hydra - Drei - Dragon Hydra: Greek mythological creature with many heads Drei: The number 3 in German, the whole evo line does this, Deino, Zweilous and Hydreigon....so maybe Zweilous should be pronounced like ZVIElous Dragon: Because....duh
Metagross is just based because it is not a basic "look at this dragon" Pokemon. In RSE it is hands down the best Ace Pokemon from a Champion. Probably the most original pseudo-legendary GF has ever done, a Psychic Steel Supercomputer specialized in smashing you at close range.
Goodra may be the worst pseudo but its the most huggable by far
Gooey ability: Are you sure about that
@@fal9676 very sure
Kid named dragonite:
Idk I don’t think you’d want to be slimy every time you hugged it
My favorite Pseudo
hydreigon sure is epic, glad there are no alternative versions of this perfect pokemon
yes, we’re very fortunate for the lack of different hydreigon forms. what a fantastic pokémon!
To this day that’s my favorite video of his
Iron jugulis
@@theschnozzler we don’t talk about that piece of junk
@@louisduty3962 I was just saying there was an alternative (albeit worse) version of hydreigon
"If you don't love me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best" or "Nobody recognized me until I put the Steel type on" is the simplest synopsis of describing Goodra's competitive viability, but it & Dragonite are still the only ones who don't look intimidating and make for the sweetest friends outside of battling.
Goodra and Dragonite are very friend shaped. In fact Hisuian Goodra looks worse than regular Goodra imo
I used it in pla then I went back to XY SWSH and used it
I shiny hunted goomy in SV
@@ogeid772 what mercury-filled water does to a friend, possibly since it's the only source of it's melancholic & part Steel typing.
First i lol'd
**becomes a steel type**
Then i serious'd
Volcarona should've been a pseudo legendary. I'm seething so hard
It's fine the way it is, we do need more powerful regular pokemon other than just pseudos and starters
@@thisisnami6054 I wouldn’t mind if the pseudos are the only truly powerful “normal” Pokémon in lore as long as we get a lot more that aren’t dragon types
He didn’t need it. Would you want it to be banned from OU?
@@RebelTrooperHoth i mean.... yeah?
Just wait for the gen 5 remakes where we get the volcarona evolution with magic guard and access to the signature move, Solar flare, which is 70 BP special fire move with +1 priority that sets up harsh sunlight.
Jimothy Cool IS iron mugulis people, wake up to the truth.
He's amassing an army
That's just outrageous.
Recently subscribed to help the fight against Iron Mugulis. I think we need the help of Sinistea's great grandfather Fearsome Flagon, another Ground type with the ability Protosynthesis and the move Half Empty, which is rumored to move all hazards on your side to the opponent's side, and instantly KOs the opponent, but only works below half HP, otherwise it only acts as Endure, again allegedly. Who knows what it really does? I also heard he was a war hero back in the day. Given how old he is, he might need the herba mystica?
Edit: oh yeah. I've also heard him called "Flaming Flagon", so maybe he's a ground/fire type?
The Goomy line deserved so much better.
I’m not just talking battle-wise, either (they deserve to be Water/Dragon and get Recover, just throwing it out there). In X and Y, where they debuted, you could only get it right before the Fairy gym. In Sun, Moon, and the Ultra games, you could only get them through SOS chaining in the rain. Then they were exclusive to Shield and you could only get them then in the late-game (again, only in the rain). Who at GameFreak caught a grudge for a slug?
Wouldve been bulky beyond compare XD
Wow I never thought about that but Dragon/Water makes a ton of sense for it and would give it a more defined identity. It would make more sense as a bulky attacker without being overbearing because of its offensive stats. It would also make it less of a head scratcher when thinking about how to slot it into your team. It's also pretty telling that the most popular tera for it in gen 9 is water lol. Tera water Goodra/Goodra-H with Sap Sipper and Muddy Water spam is pretty good. Gamefreak how could you
Dragon/poison makes more sense
@@peelsbanana1626 Dragalge was also released in gen 6 and is poison/dragon
goodra would've been goated with recovery
Slack off is so fitting too
Fr, glad it doesn’t for my sanity but still
Recovery and toxic spikes for some nice utility! Oh yeah part water type too!
@@Max-qw8eq maybe if it is part of the Amorphous egg-group (which it isn't) it could've gotten Recover or Toxic Spikes as egg moves, if not both
Why is Goodra *not* a Water type?
It has Hydration, learns a lot of Water moves, evolves in Rain.
Goodra probably have the biggest identity crisis ever seen in a pokemon, if they gave him a less situational ability like regenerator or sheer force and made a new spread it would have absolutely thrived as a wall or wall breaker
or just give him Recover and T-Spikes for utility
Hydreigon is so damn cool, absolutely love its design even though it’s a pain to get Zweilous all the way to lv64
Pseudos are so interesting in gen 3 cause you can customize them so much, instead of just running max speed max attack. That's also why I think Dragapult is well designed, since you can run whacky sets despite it being fast
I’ve heard people trash talk kommo-o before and I’ll never understand it. One of the most unique and badass pseudo legendary designs
it was kinda useless the Gen it came out due to releasing alongside fairy type lol that’s pretty much it
@@jebalitabb8228
No it wasn’t? For one, it released the Gen after fairy types, for two, it had clangorus soulblaze in gen7. Even after z moves were taken away it still had really solid stats typing and a movepool. It’s currently UUBL in both SS and SV which is not what I’d consider useless at all.
I don't see spidops on this list
That's because Spidops isn't a pseudo legendary
@@adamcunningham9947 😂😂. Let’s be real here bro
The most important thing I learned from this video is not your taste in pseudo legendary Pokémon, is your great videogame music taste
Jim has said this a bunch of times before, mostly on the Dragapult video, but to him "interesting and nuance" for a pokemon's stat design is basically "subvert expectations of how this pokemon would be used by giving it's stronger attacking stat the weaker movepool and the weaker one a ton of options". That and it does more than just click stab moves while having a bunch of sets.
I do like how most of the Pseudos can be used as mixed attackers to some extent since it allows for more variety. Like ice beam Dragonite/Ttar, Salamence obviously, Draco Chomp, Superpower Hydreigon, EQ Goodra, even Grass Knot/HP Fire Metagross in some metas. Dragapult and Kommo-o are the kings of this, imo since I've seen them use physical or special sets pretty equally.
As much as I like Baxcalibur and enjoy sweeping with it, there isn't much to explore with it bc it's very clear that it's supposed to come in on a fire move and use physical STAB moves (or EQ) every time. It can Freeze Dry but it's weaker than using a STAB move anyway bc of how strong its physical moves are and the gap between its attack and Sp.attack. The only decision is whether to run DD, SD, or banded.
Design wise, i always liked Metagross and Garchomp
Hydreigon is immediately the best due to its having a Germanic name and how much care went into its design
Garchomp is 1st calling it right now.
Garchomp isn’t last I’m calling it
It's not
I really like listening to you talk about gen 3 meta. It seems really nuanced which is nice. The new gens definitely have less nuance and more power so the game becomes more like rock, paper, scissors than it was in gen 3.
I feel like after a certain point, they started overtuning and optimizing mons to make it very obvious how they're supposed to be played (in this gen especially, but Volc Quiver Dancing was a good example he brought up from gen 5).
Like how Chi-Yu and Chien-Pao were clearly specifically made to do nothing except spam their special and physical STAB moves, respectively, bc of their abilities. Even non-legends like Espathra and Annihilape basically having one set each that got them banned bc they received such powerful combinations of traits. Or how the starters this gen all got amazing signature moves (with no drawbacks) that typically outclass any other STAB move they have while still having great coverage, abilities, and stat distributions.
Not that we didn't have mons like this before, but the power creep is super obvious this gen because so many mons are like this now. I feel like they would usually give mons actual limitations in previous gens, give them multiple ways to be used, or at least make it less obvious what the optimal sets would be.
gen 3 ou is epic
you talking about the many sets the Ttar can run made me realize, Gen 9 has 5 new Pokemon (not counting Hisui yet) that can run more than 2 viable sets: Meowscarada, Dudunsparce, Gholdengo, Great Tusk and Iron Valiant.
With Dudun being the only one that can run different playstyles (bulky sweeper [both physical or special], specs, hazard, paraflinch, phaser and more)
All the other ones might change a coverage move or two, but basically play the same. A lot of them don't have a good movepool to run any other set, and even the some that do, will just run their best set.
Over the course of the video I realized how most of the Pseudos can run several different sets or at least have done so throughout their history. Older Pseudos definitely, and Hydreigon got a lot of mileage out of Nasty Plot. Goodra can play around with different items and moves to hit what it needs to. In the limited time it was usable outside of Nat Dex, Kommo-o went through about 1000 different sets bc it got almost every relevant set up move in the game. Pult has at least 3-4 viable sets.
Unfortunately, as satisfying as a Baxcalibur sweep can be, it's very clear that it's supposed to come in on a fire move and muscle through the opponent with physical STAB moves (or EQ) every time. The only decision is whether you want to run DD, SD, or banded. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
I’m also a Kommo-o enjoyer and love how versatile it is since you could run it physical or special and dragon/fighting is just a cool type
Design-wise Goodra-H and dragapult are my favorites
Commenting before watching but if my boy Garchomp isn't number 1 then I am going to peel myself
Gonna be dragapult I bet
Edit: Wasn’t even close since it wasn’t just how good they are in competitive rn💀
You all are foolish if you think ttar isn't no 1
@@nicklagoni7306 I know, and I should've known given how much Jim loves it
hydration goodra would be such a good wall in a forever weather meta. hydration + rest is actually really good in rain
The dude who made Iron Mugulis in Minecraft is a goat
What next in Clash Royale
Let's go, a Kommo-o fan
as a goodra fan, i am up in arms. do i disagree with any of your points? no. however. consider: gooey dragon
I made an assault vest goodra team, got to top 700 on it in ranked, GOODRA FOR THE WIN!
Feint,
Draco meteor
Muddy water
Thunderbolt
Lives 2 attacks from fluttermane, even more if it tera waters. Basically invincible in terms of special defense
Managed to talk about Dragonite being annoying for like three minutes without once mentioning t-wave wrap in gen 1. They made a big cool dragon and then decided that it would never do anything but ruin your day.
Goodra is slept on. It's a cool bulky setup mon that can function as a curse/acid armor win con, as a acid spray wall breaker, or just a AV attacker or special tank (it requires little ev investment to be a special tank anyway without av). Something like curse, dragon claw/tail, eq, firepunch. Or acid spray, draco/dragon pulse, with two filler special coverage moves. Its two big weaknesses are mediocre turn 1 defense without setup or heavy investment & no non-item way to boost its speed.
As far as aesthetics go, its line is very good. It combines one of the most easily recognized enemy types; the slimes with another popular fictional creature known as a dragon 🐉. Slimes are usually some of the weakest enemy rpg enemies you fight (goomy's pokedex entries usually refer to it as the weakest dragon type), but dragons are usually tough to either kill or occupy strong enemy types. Having its aesthetic be land slug-like (or snail-like with hisui goodra) with the feelers while having a cute draconic touch is a very stark contrast to some of the more gruff looking pseudo-legendaries.
Hydration & sap sipper are acceptable abilities & have their place. Gooey is very niche & should have gotten a buff to make it into some kind of unique status effect + stat drop that results in a stage 1 speed drop for 3-4 turns if contact is made. The goo dissipates, but the speed drop still persists on the pokemon that made contact even if a switch out occurs.
Overall, it might be the weakest pseudo for prioritizing bulk & having more situational abilities, but it's no slouch with its unpredictability, great typing, & nice abilities.
I love using goodra and I can't wait for hisuian goodra to drop because it's just straight up better. I love switching in on any special attack with it and eating it like a beast and just threatening a KO with a high damage attack like draco meteor or one of its other high damage coverage moves and then resting up with a chesto berry to heal
You might be the most quintessentially funny dead pan british person I’ve ever seen. “But first, devastating news...”
alright here me out, i dont see a problem with iron mugulis in fortnite. the worst case scenario is the world is a better place
Dragonite has always been a bastard to fight even since gen 1. Thats how it is
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Garchomp not top 2 or 3 is shocking honestly
It always felt OP every time I've had it
Objectively best subjective opinion 👍
funfact: Salamence best set in gen8 is a special attacking pivot set with intimidate: Hurricane, Flamethrower, Roost and Defog.
Your definition of pseudo legendary was very, uh, elegant but if you need the actual definition it’s a 3 stage mon with 600 BST and about an 80% chance of being a dragon. That list doesn’t include gengar. No, not even if it’s specifically gen3 gengar.
Dragonite should be higher on the list. It has had different playing styles in most generations. The hyper offensive isn't the only strategy that works for dragonite, unlike some other psuedos
I've only seen the first two pokemon mentioned and I already love the list! Common Jimothy Cool W
Algorithm pleasing vid + Gen 3 OU layered in = certified classic. Interesting to see the development of mons niches from gen to gen, for better or worse lol.
If only goodra had recovery (even just wish) it would be so much better and actually function
Kommo-o actually getting respect made my whole morning. What a cool pokemon.
Oh no, the evil mug is now invading the minecraft mod cobblemon? Thats horrible 😢 lets save this new mod from the terrible deeds of iron muggulus by liking and subscribing.
23:40 Clangium Z😂
My list is
1.Dragapult
2.Garchomp
3.Salamence
4.Tyranitar
5.Metagross
6.Dragonite
7.Hydreigon
8.Baxcalibur
9.Goodra-Hisui
10.Goodra
11.Kommo-o
My list is more based on favorites and not power
Dragapult and garchomp are probably my top 2 as well. Their designs are unbelievable
@@kefkapalazzo1 yah Dragapult is my fav Pokémon all time and Garchomp is my 3rd only split as Haxorus is my 2nd since it got dethroned from 1st via Dragapult
I agree about the type chart. I think fairy needs nerfed. I think being super effective by fire would be good and let one other type resist it.
Haxorus feels so much like a pseudo legendary that Iris sidelined the actual gen 5 pseudo legend on her team.
I’m surprised Lickitung isn’t considered a pseudo legendary
"It's not like a Volcarona Quiver Dance"
Honestly, in Gen 8 everything you said about DD Salamance applies to Volc as well. You have no Hidden Power, Z-moves, or Tera to break through counters. Heatran and Blissey pretty much invalidate everything Volc can do. It's also easily out-sped at +1 by common threats and kept in check by priority users. It requires a ton of skill in Gen 8 to achieve Volc win conditions. In gen 9 it's easier but still far from trivial.
The thing with TTar is that in its most prominent generations ( 2nd and 3rd) it is the most competetively viable pokemon available, without being overpowered in almost any way. Theres always an answer to Tyranitar, but at the same time Tyranitar always has an answer to everything else. Its speed limits the strength of its dragon dances, and its typing limits the strength of its defense and hp stats. TTar has a whopping SEVEN weaknesses in the earlier generations, out of 17 total types thats a huge majority, yet its defensively bulky enough to make these weaknesses not game ending for it, unlike some other pokemon ( looking at you Exeggutor). With a gigantic movepool and viability with both physical and special movesets, it always has a place on teams, but not once do you send out TTar in gen 3 and think "well this games over now". This is why I think the gens 1-3 pseudos are so good. They are amazing, but its not game ending for you if they start to suit up either.
It would be cool/reasonable if Garchomp got Air slash, and maybe even Hurricane
Metagross has been my favourite visually since emerald
I'd have Dragonite at the bottom because of how let down I was as a kid when my cool ass awesome looking Dragonair turned into a damn dragon tales character
i think what makes these mons so interesting is that they can suffer from "useless stat syndrome" and still be good. But because of that they also get cool niches like mixed attacking and tank sets. A couple go too far maybe like goodra, and gross though, they are both sort of invested in both attack styles, but then hyper invest in a defensive stat and have too many useless stats depending on the set. Dragapult is an example of those two that investing into mixed then dumped a ton into speed, but ofc speed compliments attack stats, and is even good stand alone unlike def which requires hp, ability, and move pool as back up. T-tar is actually the 'worst' of the bunch but gets carried by its ability. sand chip, and sp def boost make it a 650 bst and if sand was calced as his damage in a stats section where mons are ranked based on average damage done per fight he tops the list for most gens im sure.
Hisuain Goodra gonna be so good. 252 SpD 252 HP. 4 Def. Leftovers. Terra Steel/Dragon
Acid Armor, Body Press, Protect, Heavy Slam/Earthquake
Edit: Shell Armor as ability
You are 100% correct about dragonite being cheesey. Even all the way back in RBY he just cheesed all of UU with wrap stall. However i love his goofey ass anyways tera normal extreme speed away boys!
Jimothy, I like dragonite, and now I’m going to attack you, after rioting in the streets
This is fair.
11. Baxcalibur
10. Goodra
9. Metagross
8. Tyranitar
7. Dragapult
6. Hydreigon
5. Hisuian Goodra
4. Kommo-o
3. Garchomp
2. Dragonite
1. Salamence
I wish there were more non-dragon pseudos.
You're my guy sir Timothy but your disrespect of kyurem-b shall not go unnoticed. It actually has a reason to be visually incohensive due to it being a fusion, Bax on the other hand looks like a bowling pin with a bunch of random features added on like those goofy red claws over it's actual hands, it looking more like a steel than ice type, and glued on face.
Now Bax's paradox form on the other hand, gallant glacier, is a truly great design.
Jimothy, what do you think of the viability of Choice Scarf Tyranitar in Gen 9 OU? With a Hasty Nature and 120 Sp.Atk EVs (if I recall correctly) it can always 2 shot offensive and physically defensive Great Tusk, and can work as an effective lure, as Scarf is so uncommon ppl would not withdraw Tusk, thinking it is faster and staying in for the kill. + it can be given enough speed to outrun Iron Moth, and the remaining points can be invested in attack. Even though it’s not going max, it still is very powerful, Iron Moth and Volcarona have to Tera to escape it, and special variants of Dragapult still have to fear, as it’s still very bulky, and can take an attack, to later retaliate with a Crunch that will KO. Gholdengo is still very much threatened too. Only bulky Kingambit is not 2 Shot by Earthquake, and if it decides to Tera Flying to escape the Ground weakness, it would fall victim to Tyranitar’s Rock Stab
TYRANITAR NUMERO 1 CAMPEÃO DO MUNDO!!! 🏆🏆🏆
now that's epic
I remember switching my physical defensive Bronzong on gen 4 on Metagross just to be beated by the meteor mash shenanigans as EQ failed to 2hko and mash doing now 7252 damage 😢
What about Iron Mugulis's original version? Hydrategon?
Any minute now the breaking news that Iron mugulis is actually a Rotom form is going to hit and we won't be ready
We need a Bug-type pseudo in the next gen! A duel type with steel, dragon, or fire, and I'd be happy. Or maybe ghost? We still only have one of those and it's not a serious mon.
Goodra is somewhat decent when paired with Assault Vest because of its superb coverage on top of its above average special bulk. This lets you tank special hits even without investment. I feel like not having an outstanding ability that synergizes with this playstyle is what is really holding it back.
Gooey doesn't really work well with Goodra only having 70 Defense, Hydration is alright but there are much better options available if you want a Pokemon that does well in Rain, and Sap Sipper would be nice on a Water Type but Goodra already resists Grass and thus gaining an Immunity to it doesn't feel that amazing? Also, it's boosts Attack rather than Special Attack which feels bad when Goodra has higher base Special Attack than Attack alongside better Special Attacking moves than Physical ones (besides Earthquake, but at that point just use Garchomp instead?)
You guys were looking at the wrong solution to Iron Mugulus. We needed Golurk to dawn a Choice Scarf to take on the behemoth
Metagross is my favorite pseudo and I loved using it in gen 6 with Klefki screen support and weakness policy. At the time most people ran the mega Metagross instead, and it was so cool to see the WP set become pretty much standard in gen 8. Love pseudos that aren’t dragons.
I’d be interested in an updated list now or after dlc 2 or both.
Hydreigon does get nasty plot just not in gen 5 it has it in gen 8 and 9
I'm sorry but Kyurem is awesome, and in case you didn't know yes it supposed to be an abomination
17:53
Iron Mugulis is obviously responsible for this. Speaking of which, I was shaving when I heard the grim news about Iron Mugulis possibly appearing in the hit documentary series Fortnite. I was so shocked I accidentally nicked my neck and now have a square of toilet paper on my neck to show for it. This menace has to be stopped.
Great list. I thought it was ranking them in general strength and utility, not just in certain generations though. I agree with number 1
22:33 I'm dying lmao.
Goodra getting scald and knock off is pretty coo
Some arguments where that the Pokémon are annoying to fight against. But usually you want to have those in your own team.
I would have loved to see Goodra get regenerator. Especially the Hisui version.
I think Goodra is cool in OMs where it can get either a recovery move or regenerator since especially with regenerator it becomes a pretty neat guy who does damage and is bulky. Also with regenerator it's probably my favorite assault vest user because it can both contribute well to how I like to play and be bulky as hell on the special side.
... honestly why didn't they give it regenerator? Like give Goomy a recovery move so both Goodra and H-Goodra get it and make Goodra have Regenerator over one of it's abilities, probably hydration so it parallels H-Goodra but honestly Sap Sipper can just go too and make that the one Shell Armor Replaces on H-Goodra so both have Hydration. Now H-Goodra and base Goodra work well as bulky attackers and can recover well while not needing leftovers and there's a reason to use base Goodra over Better Goodra other than some additional weaknesses from the steel type.
learning and knowing his Gen 3 OU bias, i knew one of Tyranitar or Salamence were gonna be number 1
Hydreigon doesn't feel that good to me competitively plus it evolves so late it's impractical in a playthrough of BW...but in name concerns, it's top tier....its name is peak punnage
Hydra - Drei - Dragon
Hydra: Greek mythological creature with many heads
Drei: The number 3 in German, the whole evo line does this, Deino, Zweilous and Hydreigon....so maybe Zweilous should be pronounced like ZVIElous
Dragon: Because....duh
RegenVest Hoodra is gonna be cool in AAA lol
Metagross is just based because it is not a basic "look at this dragon" Pokemon. In RSE it is hands down the best Ace Pokemon from a Champion. Probably the most original pseudo-legendary GF has ever done, a Psychic Steel Supercomputer specialized in smashing you at close range.
I enjoyed the video until 5:18, at which point I had to pause it to begin rioting in the streets.
I have the same top 3, but I can't forgive some of the lower picks.
Ttar, Metagross, and Dragonite are my favorites
Did your Baxcalibur opinion improve or decrease given the last week
I like the Mon even though it's broken
Goodra is the Meganium of Pseudo-legendaries
That dragonite ranking is unforgivable! … Iron mugulus has done nothing wrong! Minecraft wanted him to be there.
Tyranitar being pretty much the best OU mon of all time 🗿🗿🗿
Garchomp 🗿 🗿 🗿
@@HyperBlazing. lil bro didn't watch the video
Pseudo-legendaries are late game, 3-stage evolution, 600 base stat total pokemon, usually but not exclusively dragon type
My attempt at a definition
They did Hydreigon wrong.
It should be Dragon/Dark and not the opposite.
Does it matter?
Tyranitar is UU in gen 9?
Bro can you play Pokemon radical red bro
There should’ve been another sudolegendary Pokémon besides Baxcalibur in Gen 9. Baxcalibur kinda looks like a fakemon anyway…
love dragonite in rain teams as a suprise special attack hurricane/thunder spammer
Dragonite in bottom 2? I am going to do despicable things
I can't remember, did you already do a ranking for megas?