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We get asked this questions a lot! "How do you become a pro tennis player? Can I still become Pro?" We are breaking down a video from our friend Felix over at @tennisbrothers to show just how much hard work goes into TRYING to become a professional tennis player!
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Hi Ian, love the video ❤
It honestly felt surreal watching someone you watch my video ! wow , actually the first time i have watched someone react to one of my videos , and i loved it 😁
I think one of my upcoming videos should be, my crazy 10 000 calorie diet whilst training 😂, also this was a pretty standard day to be honest, really putting everything into this time i have with no school commitments, probably doing something similar to this about 4-5 times per week, obviously this changes with tournaments and how i feel physically.
Thanks Again Ian and hopefully we can have a chat soon 👍
Good luck achieving your goal! :)
Would love to chat sometime! Keep up the amazing work and thank you so much for sharing your journey on RUclips! It’s awesome to see what other tennis players are doing! 💪🏼😎
Now add the logistic, profitability, and mentality parts. I taught my kids tennis when they were 5 years old but really i don't expect them to turn pro (I still hope they will play for college), but a rather a sport that will give them life-long health benefit, mental toughness and a door to social interaction.
That's awesome Ian, I'm sure they've learned a lot!
I live near a highly ranked D1 school that goes pretty deep into the NCAA Tournament just about yearly. They've produced 1 player who's cracked the top 100. If you watch their top guys play, the strokes are pretty indistinguishable from top 100 ATP players, and I'm not even sure the athleticism is lacking (for some). The only difference is a nearly indistinguishable level of precision and consistency that you can really only see play out over a full match.
Never say never, and maybe you ARE the one in a billion player who will win grand slam tournaments after starting playing at the age of 52, but Nikola Aracic said it in one of his videos very well: set reachable goals. If you are not winning against all the players in your club, you don't need to worry about competing on a national level.
Kind of ironic looking at this and then looking at the media reactions to Emma Raducanu who "came out of nowhere in 4 months to go from 338 to 18 in 4 months." And it definitely was incredible. But at 338, she probably had about 140 points. Which represents a lot of tournament success. Like any professional sport it is long hours of unglamorous physical struggle, ons of sacrifice and effort, hundreds of tournaments where even winners get marginal or no money. Anyone who puts in this much effort deserves respect. Looking forward to the rest of this series.
Thanks for your comments! Yes, Emma was definitely already "successful" compared to most, she had a breakout within the top players of the world. Thanks for watching!
it becomes just a lot more impressive on top of that because all the other players around her were also working incredibly hard.
Goes to show how much hard work goes into making it look so easy! I remember watching something on Fed and Nadal and they said even before they went pro they were working on it 40-50 hours a week (not just court time of course but physio, recovery, etc..)
Great video! This really puts some context to what it takes. Really appreciate sharing this. Now I’ll have my kids watch this to show them the dedication and focus on what it takes! Thx!
Great Video! Will for sure be following tennis Brothers. Hope to see more videos like this, helps keep motivated!
Thank you Ian for giving us a real perspective! Subscribing to Tennis Brothers right away!
Great video!
Thanks Ian and ET team.
Cheers
MM
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow! Amazing discipline and a really well-constructed training plan. I think the only thing he has to tweak is maybe overtraining, but maybe what he is doing is sustainable with the right warmup, cooldown and recovery protocols.
Great stuff! I'm also curious how many times per week he trains that much in one day. One of the underrated physical gifts needed to be a top-level athlete is the ability to train like that without getting injured. Most normal people would burn out or get hurt with that much intensity every day.
Great! I really hardly try to do more and more workout sessions but I couldn't it's like my mucles are swollen up and i just go to bed and sleep, but this guy! Have a great routine and also very difficult
Well Passionate guy😎😎😎
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Tried my hand as a USTA team player and also as a ITF player
The grind is real there are players who are not of age to purchase alcohol yet travel with a entourage .
I played these guys and beat them with moon balls and consistent depth. If it came to shot making or athleticism I would lose .
If I carried it out over a four hour match o would win by grinding them to dust . Did that enough times and the entourage would watch my matches and come up with a plan to beat me. Never got past a semi final for doubles or top 16 for singles .
There is a vast gulf of ability that money can shrink but not eliminate
My western 1 handed backhand and a third gear/speed
Usually it is
Attack
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defense
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I had a in-between play speed meant to grind each other to dust
😁
I'm sore just remembering
having been through a couple academies and tennis camps that i had to pay out of pocket on my own with saved up money, i can say that i could have put the work in. the problem i had when i was younger, perhaps coming from a more working class background, is that i figured i could "DIY" the academy experience and i would have enough discipline to do all the work on my own. this was a bad decision and an example of working harder but not smarter. i wish i had taken a loan out or something and just given it my all.
Been following the Tennis Brothers for a while. I am glad Felix is chronicling his journey and I'm also glad Ian put Felix's journey on his channel. Hopefully this will help Felix get more subscribers and monetize to help pay for everything. With that said I do wonder how Felix is surviving financially. He mentions a coach and on one of his videos, he was at Patrick's academy in France. As far as getting a point or even turning pro, tennis has to be the most misunderstood sport out here. The average person has a better chance of getting to the Moon. Many of the unrealistic dreamers are 5.0 Joes who think they are close to the pros. As much as I like Felix and rooting for him, reality says inspite of all he's doing, he won't make it and will wind up a teaching pro like Ian. I learned about individual sports when I was an assistant boxing coach. I saw tons of fighters but only a small percentage made it. Keep dreaming big young man. Whether you make it or not, you met lots of people and traveled to many places. That my friend will be worth it in the end.
I've followed Felix's his journey for a while and he's a very good player. I think he'll smash his goals this year and he'll be a fulltime futures olayer in the next year or two.
I can tell you that the National Tournaments called the British Tour that he plays in, are seriously tough. So many good players and the level these days is equivelent to a base level futures event.
Infact, a lot of the British Futures players will drop down to British Tour level to get match practise at times so it is seriously tough.
But I have a feeling that Felix will nake it👍
UK tennis has a lot to thank Andy Murray for. Before him no one really understood how much effort you need to put in, but really no one works harder or dedicates himself more then Murray. What he did become known via him inviting youth to train with him, or his coaches/physio's spreading the word. It basically basically became accepted that if you want to make you've got live tennis 24-7.
Great reaction video. Also recommend Felix's video about the Mouratoglou academy. He also have a honest opinion of if a week is worth it or not.
I'll check it out. Thanks!
@@EssentialTennis can I turn pro at 22 years old or is that too late 😎👍
Well said Ian.
Thanks for watching Daniel!
I know someone who made it into the top 80 of the world. Not only did I hear about how hard it is, but also how lonely and even depressing it was to be on the road all the time going from empty hotel room to empty hotel room.
I found out I don't like to travel. And to live out of my suitcase 340 days a year. You need a special mentality to be so much away from home. Being on your own so much is very tough.
Absolutely, it's a very tough lifestyle!
Good point! I'm continually amazed that pros can adjust to different time zones and still find a way to play their best
I don't see anything out of proportion. Indeed a natural amount of work. It's supposed to be hard. As competition increases, harder effort is required. Today's tennis allows most to be "ok" tennis wise. Before, talent was a differentiator. I'm an older guy. I played some sports with lots of training (not tennis) As I said...well yeah, these days it's really hard, but it's the norm. I personally would be willing to take the challenge (or would've taken it when younger). But not now. I guess my challenge is also physical preparation, but at my level. That might be the lesson (I know I've been putting off the fitness part of the game, for certain).
What I think it's harder is the video work...lol. So, for that... thanks Ian! Haha.
I support this video but obviously it's just one person perspective...small sample size I guess is what I'm saying. Good job! Great to see how the videos were made - I thought that was kind of different too. Ian seemed to like it too.
Really enjoyed Felix's video! He added a great perspective!
I think the general point is this. In any profession that is so hypercompetitive that only the very very top will "make it", you need to have massive skill. If you have that, it will be obvious to you and you will push hard for making it. If you don't have a skill, you may still have a burning desire and will push hard. If you, however, think it would be 'kind of cool' to be a professional, and you wonder if you could make it, you are not cut out for it. Because either you know deep down you can make it, or you won't make it.
I played an Open tournament in San Diego in about 1985. The winner was 13 yo. That is the level of player who makes a living on tour. Felix is 17 or 18 so he needs to be a high 12 UTR already to have a reasonable chance of making it at the futures level.
He has gotten his first ATP point now!
Man, how was Nadal winning the French Open at 17 ? Watching this video makes my mind blow up at this !
Exactly my point of this video, it's crazy!
Nada was 19 - still incredible feat
Great video. It does show how much he is investing in his dream. Investing physically, mentally, and... financially
Yes, it's a big commitment!
so I'm second serve??, Love your work dude keep it up.
Thanks for watching!
I believe Félix now has an ATP doubles ranking
I’ll never go pro, closest to pro is owning a GoPro 6. I just want to get better and play the highest UTR/USTA level I can reach one day. Ball machine and daily practice to improve.
Keeping working on it to improve!
Haha, his cold is -2C. It is -15F today in Wisconsin, which is -26C.
😅I told him he needs to come visit! ❄
Not warming up and cooling down is my pet peeve 😂 I laugh in my mind when I see other rec players just start ripping balls at the baseline because I know that the next day they probably won't be walking anywhere whereas I could actually play tennis again if I needed or wanted to 😂
I only know there is such sport as tennis when I was 17 and it is from a Japanese cartoon. hahah. I can say I am doing 1/3 of his effort to be better at tennis (if do the gym every day, not tennis court counts ... :D). Yer it is hard to be pro at anything for sure. go tennis brothers go!
I quit my job in medicine and retired at age 44. Now I train CrossFit for 90 min per day, and practice tennis 5 hours per week. The rest of my time is spend meal prepping, sleeping, and doing mobility work. This kid doesn’t eat enough.
He's a tennis player, not a sumo wrestler. He posted that he eats 10,000 calories a day, that's plenty.
@@georgebasham2279 5000 calories, but if you don’t track, your just guessing. Even the Rock claims to eat 6000, but it’s not true.
Haha… I put that efforts every other day by waking up 5.15AM to be on 6AM to play tennis. Im 4.0 recreational player though. Only 2 reasons.. I’m in Boston; no where else to play. I have 8AM-6PM job. If not mornings, then no tennis. 😂😂😂
Is Felix’s video supposed to be a surprise? No shit you have to have a disciplined fitness/lifestyle regimen if you want to have a chance to go pro.
And now take a look on Carlos Alcaraz or Hoger Rune. Both 18 year old and one of them is no. 29 in the world.
I played with a 900 , 600, 99, ranked ATP player. I took a total of 2 games.
Wow! That's impressive!
I feel so lazy when I see this kind of dedication!
Having played van de Zandschulp when I was 19 in 2008 (he was 11-12 I believe), the insane thought of being able to become pro later in life is based in a delusion. I went to puberty already and I was in good shape, playing pretty decent tennis (top 4% of the country statistically) but he reached that at the age of 11-12 before going through puberty. The insane angles he could hit from my shots still makes me wonder. The reason I made the 2nd set somewhat competitive was bashing his backhand and playing lights out. And I was never close of actually winning the 2nd set, let alone having the gas left to go after a 3rd.
I lost btw: 6-0 7-5.
I feel like can I turn pro shouldn’t even be a question, because if you haven’t already dedicated years and years of your life to tennis, and you haven’t completed any termites, then really that shouldn’t even come to mind.
Meanwhile my 53 year old body would be happy hitting once a week without something hurting!
Is 55 too old to get started?
It comes easy to some of us. No effort required.
I guess this video will tell you whether Felix watches your channel or not, haha. Whether he responds in comments and how long he takes to do so (maybe someone tells him to watch it lol)
I guess so! But regardless, he's on a great path in his young career!
Haha. True. I like Felix's video. I really hope to see that point become a reality soon.
It's the same when it comes to soccer. You even have a lesser chance when it comes to soccer. There are over 240 MILLION REGISTERED players in the world. About 2 billion people play soccer on some level. Very, very few make it to become a professional player. Ive been playing soccer for over 30 years and nowhere near that stage.
still it is easier to become a pro soccer player than it is to get an atp point. turning pro is in tennis doesn't guarantee a big income only the very best earn so much they never have to work again after their tennis career.
It's incredibly difficult to become any professional athlete!
I disagree. I think it's definitely easier to be a soccer professional than a tennis professional for a number of reasons. Still extremely difficult of course. I’ll list a few: Cost, technique/skill (tennis more technical), number of places (only top 100 in tennis), location, injury (still get paid in football) etc... Just because there are a lot more people playing football than tennis, doesn't make it harder to be a pro footballer. That's only one aspect.
@@atrem7942 Completely agree. Most junior players nowadays have very rich parents otherwise it's not possible for them to be pro. Not the same with football.
@@olivierdrinkwater1485 Ian is following a guy who thinks 700 dollar and a year of practice is enough. in Europa is cost between 75, 100.000 euro, in training coaching, traveling, fysiotherapy, between the age of 12 and 18. also at some point you maybe get a sponsor or two. not nearly enough to make a living. a soccer player is pampered from the day he enters the club all expenses are paid for. all equipment is there alle coaches trainers doctors, fysiotherapists . and they get paid lots of money from an early age. in tennis nothing comes for free.
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Without the natural talent doesn't matter how much coaching and money you throw at it.
Not true, you can get there with hard work but it's difficult
256 mens D1 Univ teams in America alone, that is 2000 varsity D1 players in America ALONE!!! He "might" be able to D1....
Not at a major or even mid major D1. I was about the same level as him based on his UTR and walked on at a mid-major and played 1 official doubles match. In other words I really wasn’t a D1 level player. There’s more depth now in college tennis than there was back in ‘81 when I played, although the very top players were better then. On the other hand I had only been playing for 5 years so if I had started at 5 yo I probably could’ve played futures level.
I will bee a pro even without national tournaments you'll see me win wimbledon
I didn't win that genetic lotto Ian.