5 Minutes with GM Ben Finegold: Ding vs Gukesh, Game 12

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025
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  • @chessanthemum
    @chessanthemum Месяц назад +132

    23 minutes with Ben!

    • @MislavIvkovic-sx8vd
      @MislavIvkovic-sx8vd Месяц назад +1

      Gukesh won beautyfool game yesterday with Benoni now he could Still play this but he enter in Catalan opening against 2 best catalan player in the World he was just overconfident you are not Fisher so you can beat Taimanov in Taimanov sicilian😂😂😂😂

    • @MislavIvkovic-sx8vd
      @MislavIvkovic-sx8vd Месяц назад

      Gukesh won beautyfool game yesterday with Benoni now he could Still play this but he enter in Catalan opening against 2 best catalan player in the World he was just overconfident you are not Fisher so you can beat Taimanov in Taimanov sicilian😂😂😂😂

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 Месяц назад

      Fun fact.... He is ben.

    • @lionizedjunkie
      @lionizedjunkie Месяц назад

      ​@@MislavIvkovic-sx8vd Just one question... what?

  • @norestforthezombies
    @norestforthezombies Месяц назад +38

    Great recap, you made it into a really captivating narrative with the D4 push as a theme. Thanks Ben!

    • @MrCheeze
      @MrCheeze Месяц назад +3

      Yeah, this was really easy to follow as someone who doesn't know anything about anything.
      Also about the game itself, love that there were no real mistakes, just outplaying from start to finish.

    • @williammorris584
      @williammorris584 Месяц назад

      I thought his first name is Grandmaster, and Ben is his middle name 😄

  • @AndrejAbabovic
    @AndrejAbabovic Месяц назад +65

    The last 5 minutes of this was easily some of the best content from Ben. I'm in tears.
    "This is a World Championship match, this isn't a simul between a beginner. These variations can't happened."

    • @tomeknaj
      @tomeknaj Месяц назад +9

      @@AndrejAbabovic this reminds me when back in St. Louis he showed some prodigy's game against Abrahamyan and was like "oof, this is double, triple, quadruple checkmate… if you're under 18, close your eyes, this is, uhh, this is not for children!"

    • @JairTrejo
      @JairTrejo Месяц назад

      They are not allowed!

    • @jonnmostovoy2406
      @jonnmostovoy2406 Месяц назад

      Yup!

    • @f.d.3289
      @f.d.3289 Месяц назад

      ahhh, that's why it's called 5 minutes with Ben XD

  • @pelicans123
    @pelicans123 Месяц назад +19

    my guy is back to give an absolute beatdown. Ding just needed a bit of motivation so he had to lose yesterday to get himself psyched up.

  • @willrhee
    @willrhee Месяц назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @stephenarrigo5679
    @stephenarrigo5679 Месяц назад +15

    "CUT" Love Ben's dry sense of humor!!

  • @PhildoBaggins
    @PhildoBaggins Месяц назад +25

    "If I was black, it wouldn't be good" - Ben

  • @ShiraoriAteU
    @ShiraoriAteU Месяц назад +6

    23 minutes and 34 seconds with GM Ben Finegold is my fav show on the youtube

  • @gidifihrer3966
    @gidifihrer3966 Месяц назад +7

    This is a World Championship match, this isn't a simul between a beginner. These variations can't happen.
    Amazing

  • @unclvinny
    @unclvinny Месяц назад +16

    I was so Reti for this one!

  • @Eglaronion
    @Eglaronion Месяц назад +4

    Nobody makes as easily digestable recaps of the highest level chess then Grandmaster Ben Finegold. Go Ben!

  • @JustAManFromThePast
    @JustAManFromThePast Месяц назад +14

    How did Ben know I'd have it on 2x speed and be done in 12 min and 40 sec?!

  • @paeturis
    @paeturis Месяц назад

    It's really amazing how you fit such a complex game with a detailed GM-level analysis into a 5 minute video

  • @cfirmdotpy
    @cfirmdotpy Месяц назад +2

    Watch GM Finegold analysis always worth it. Already saw other 5 videos about round 12 and none of them show the Re5 line

  • @TheMessianicFeast
    @TheMessianicFeast Месяц назад +2

    Love the way you explain things, thank you!!

  • @chessbrahh2068
    @chessbrahh2068 Месяц назад +1

    This was a great game and great recap!

  • @angrygary91298
    @angrygary91298 Месяц назад +33

    Ben I love you this are not 5 minutes you are lying to me.The truth hurts.

    • @philipsaoud244
      @philipsaoud244 Месяц назад +4

      The set of, "5 minutes with Ben", is contained within the set of, "23 minutes with Ben".

    • @Evilanious
      @Evilanious Месяц назад

      The truth soothes! More Ben!

    • @angrygary91298
      @angrygary91298 Месяц назад

      @@philipsaoud244 I love your set theory comprehension are you math passionate?

  • @jonnmostovoy2406
    @jonnmostovoy2406 Месяц назад

    I'm so happy, thank you for this!

  • @StoshGalumpke
    @StoshGalumpke Месяц назад +1

    That's a lot of content for just 5 minutes ... and well worth the watch ...

  • @JojenReed
    @JojenReed Месяц назад +1

    Heating up! Great recap as usual Ben

  • @tarnumj7319
    @tarnumj7319 Месяц назад +25

    never play f6!

    • @shiro1744
      @shiro1744 Месяц назад +8

      Well we know who lost the game now

  • @blueelephant4971
    @blueelephant4971 Месяц назад +1

    I like the way you really explain the ideas and don't just spew out endless computer variations.

  • @phdcmd
    @phdcmd Месяц назад +3

    Ben's recaps are the best. Got team Ben

  • @bertdaniel1449
    @bertdaniel1449 Месяц назад

    Thanks Ben. I’d to hear your pick for the playoff. Have a great trip to Michigan

  • @unclelarry3207
    @unclelarry3207 Месяц назад

    Great job Ben. Enjoyed it very much.

  • @erikfurudisatoko
    @erikfurudisatoko Месяц назад +6

    I hope Ding will win, when he is focusing and plays his best chess he's worthy of his title
    And even if Gukesh loses, India will have a lot of young super strong GMs that are going to have a pretty high ranking for a while

  • @ebk0
    @ebk0 Месяц назад +1

    Amazing recap, Ben is the best. I literally laughed at loud when he said, "Then we throw in Bd6+ because we're masochists."

  • @MrGaryStaples
    @MrGaryStaples Месяц назад +3

    @15:56 in the press conference Ding said he didn’t see knight a7. Maybe because he wasn’t concerned about the confined rook, but regardless he said he didn’t even consider it.

    • @joebloggs396
      @joebloggs396 Месяц назад

      He didn't need to look at that line, I think that's what he meant.

    • @lasshrugged
      @lasshrugged Месяц назад

      Yeah, that rook is almost completely irrelevant to the position.

  • @earlytuber9416
    @earlytuber9416 Месяц назад

    Great game and great recap!

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.3289 Месяц назад

    Daaamn, Ding really made Gukesh look like an amateur here. I find it super weird that Gukesh obviously prepared that opening but didn't realize that his position may be theoretically and numerically equal, but White really has the much easier game. And I just love how Ding just made these tiny improvements and waited until Gukesh lost patience. Great game, and great recap too :D

  • @NguyenPham-ru6nc
    @NguyenPham-ru6nc Месяц назад

    best recap ive seen of this game :D

  • @ordro107
    @ordro107 Месяц назад

    Whatever happens in the end, Ding Liren is officially a legend, this game brought repressed memory of him grilling Nepo 4 times from a 'behind in the match' position. In equally spectacular positional squeeze masterclass with tactical finish.

  • @alicemystery5332
    @alicemystery5332 Месяц назад

    another great recap!

  • @mrpizza6503
    @mrpizza6503 Месяц назад +10

    NEVER PLAY F6

  • @RBG9000
    @RBG9000 Месяц назад

    Brutal game! Gukesh getting blown off the board like a beginner. Outclassed!!

  • @douglaslarosa8782
    @douglaslarosa8782 Месяц назад

    Finally Ding woke up! A slow yet unstoppable gain of momentum with a loud crash in black's camp. Thanks for the recap, Ben!

  • @johnnyzee383
    @johnnyzee383 Месяц назад

    Does does remind anyone who has watched the game of Capablanca?...Ding played just like Capa would have...a brilliant positional masterpiece where until the end was devoid of tactics just piece maneuvering and building the position and getting your pieces into their best squares and denying the opponent any good piece squares/mobility and then striking with the decisive blow.

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.3289 Месяц назад

    5 minutes of Ben explaining why Black played Rb8 without me anderstanding any of it... go Ben!

  • @nobuharu2336
    @nobuharu2336 Месяц назад +5

    Rawr!

  • @zamicczsmicc7464
    @zamicczsmicc7464 Месяц назад

    What an incredible game

  • @andsviat
    @andsviat Месяц назад

    Oh my god. This already becomes a meme))) Good job Ben. Thank you for the recap.

  • @dontuwear
    @dontuwear Месяц назад

    Ben, please don't die!!
    Stay there

  • @fabian13333
    @fabian13333 Месяц назад +1

    This was good

  • @answeris4217
    @answeris4217 Месяц назад

    Ding was saving this for if his back was against the wall... wonder if he has another one lined up... And I also wonder if Gukesh has another ultra weird opening that gives a fighting position.

  • @AG-ld6rv
    @AG-ld6rv Месяц назад +1

    Go Ding! As in, get out of the WC hall of fame. Kasparov has said this isn't even a real world championship before it began since Magnus is not competing. Kramnik has cried on his Twitter that the game 11 blunder was unlike ANY WC blunder he has ever seen (to which Giri replied about a blunder in a Steinitz WC match). OK, I feel bad now, because Ding seems like a good guy. At least Gukesh seems rather humble as well. Hopefully, Ding gets his old rank back if he cares to do so. He had some very nice opening prep for this match and, in some cases, calculated very well. I think the old Ding would have won with 2 or 3 decisive games.

  • @h0wnr681
    @h0wnr681 Месяц назад

    What an amazing game. One thought I have (pretty good for me to have one) was that Nc6 in the opening turned out to be kind of bad. I always prefer to strike out with the c pawn, especially as black, and in this game the c pawn and knight on c6 were kind of a problem the entire game. After Kh2 it was so hard to find a move, really a curious game here.

  • @nebojsagolubovic8565
    @nebojsagolubovic8565 Месяц назад

    Ding returned from the dead in this series.

  • @MrGaryStaples
    @MrGaryStaples Месяц назад +7

    @21:08 “Probably resigns is better”

    • @thedededeity888
      @thedededeity888 Месяц назад

      My wife was annoyed at how loudly I laughed at that

  • @jeremyhuffman101
    @jeremyhuffman101 Месяц назад

    I love how you say "cut!" and the editor just ignores you.

  • @SahnigReingeloetet
    @SahnigReingeloetet Месяц назад

    Wow Ding really just gave Gukesh the smackdown

  • @Doodloper
    @Doodloper Месяц назад

    Ding: "Game 12 speaks for itself"

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety Месяц назад

    I wonder if Ding being written off by everyone before the match took some pressure off and let him relax a bit. He’s really risen to the occasion.

  • @lolohlinoh8137
    @lolohlinoh8137 Месяц назад

    I had watch some analysis, but i still don't get which moves that started to make the black whole position to be so bad at the end.

  • @danielszczypka6977
    @danielszczypka6977 Месяц назад

    This game was accually good and interesting.

  • @TheRealMortyII
    @TheRealMortyII Месяц назад

    Hi Ben!!

  • @millennialprofessional4877
    @millennialprofessional4877 Месяц назад

    At the end of that game Gukesh knew what it’s like when God has a gun.

  • @elpollolocoman119
    @elpollolocoman119 Месяц назад

    That last line is what I would have done. Treat it like a simo match.

  • @leorwolf
    @leorwolf Месяц назад

    23:34 it must be chanukah

  • @isaakcarmona1541
    @isaakcarmona1541 Месяц назад +2

    Nice cut! Also, fries.

  • @elpollolocoman119
    @elpollolocoman119 Месяц назад

    I was hoping for a kings side attack like how Morphy did back in the days, we don't find many players taking advantage of completely winning positions like he did. Though people act like his moves were elementary, if so then why are they hard to find in such positions?

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin Месяц назад +1

    Pressure getting to the teenager. The WC is in his grasp and he only needs three draws! Play for a draw and you'll lose though. I don't want to say that Gukesh is too young to have learned this lesson, but this was a game where Ding's experience in a scrap told. Gukesh seems to have regressed to technique from younger days.
    The problem with black's play right from the start is that it lacks a clear plan. Black's pieces may be on good squares, but without a plan those good squares become redundant squares, then bad squares. I've never liked the kind of classical development plan that black used because of this.
    Positional masterpiece by Ding. Always thought that was his best strength.

  • @pi5tolpete989
    @pi5tolpete989 Месяц назад

    Bens disgust in blacks position cracked me up

  • @Dandencreux
    @Dandencreux Месяц назад

    Dear Ben, I believe this Ding-Gukesh matchup knocked you out, which is why you stopped at round 12.

  • @panpan-vz3om
    @panpan-vz3om Месяц назад

    I watch only the last 5 minutes of 5 minutes with Ben that is 23 minutes long.

  • @anosmianAcrimony
    @anosmianAcrimony Месяц назад

    What a massacre!

  • @aarrodri
    @aarrodri Месяц назад

    Where 5 minutes!?

  • @PlanXV
    @PlanXV Месяц назад +1

    The commutators fought that black was better 😅 then Ding The Ring showed them the way of the Dragon 🐉 😅

  • @coyotewayfarer4380
    @coyotewayfarer4380 Месяц назад

    Ding chose the English because it's EXPLOSIVE.

  • @MarcusLanceConcina
    @MarcusLanceConcina Месяц назад

    Ding Liren will win the whole thing, I want to believe

  • @philcolbert7864
    @philcolbert7864 Месяц назад

    You can't play for a draw, you end up being too cautious

  • @lukacalov1988
    @lukacalov1988 Месяц назад +1

    Well Gukesh played f6 so theres that

    • @matteopriotto5131
      @matteopriotto5131 Месяц назад

      To be fair, he also sacrificed the exchange with Nb8

  • @JM-db8ez
    @JM-db8ez Месяц назад

    5 minutes? Doesn't take a chess GM to figure out the oddity in this video title. Alright, I'll watch the first 5 minutes, apparently that's all that matters.

  • @BbbB-dm2xg
    @BbbB-dm2xg Месяц назад

    Ben now lasts longer than five minutes.

  • @kh3777
    @kh3777 Месяц назад

    Black's queen does not have any good squares to choose from throughout the game 😮

  • @darryljones7603
    @darryljones7603 Месяц назад

  • @dalicherif
    @dalicherif Месяц назад

    5 minutes !!!!!

  • @RonyTomo69
    @RonyTomo69 Месяц назад

    PLAYOFFS!!?!?!?!?!? PLAYOFFS?!?!?!?!

  • @aliciap6329
    @aliciap6329 Месяц назад

    No one makes obvious mistake and they calmly improve their positions. Looks like a GM game.

  • @gorhemdanqze8635
    @gorhemdanqze8635 Месяц назад

    Day 3 of telling ben he does not know how long 5min last

  • @jogzyg2036
    @jogzyg2036 Месяц назад

    All these extra minutes are getting out of hand

  • @JimmyDaGent796
    @JimmyDaGent796 Месяц назад

    This was an excellent Game 11(Cut)..I mean Game 12. Finally an exciting and aggressive game. You can be accurate and aggressive, or you can tank like Gukesh when he doesnt know 75 lines of theory! India is going downhill quick baby! Chinese Communist Party making an amazing comeback!!

  • @Demian_R
    @Demian_R Месяц назад

    Never play

  • @robsafari5927
    @robsafari5927 Месяц назад

    Nice recap. But aren't you annoyed that all your fields, white resp. black, are exact copies? It feels like a plastic board?! I had this in my CB programs. I did complain at Chessbase. 'What's the problem?' (Well, when I buy a white car I don't weant a red one, even when it is technically the same. Looks matter.) It took a while, before in the newest update they finally provided 'random' looking bitmaps (but not yet for all programs..).

  • @nikiyen6
    @nikiyen6 Месяц назад

    5 minutes = LIES

  • @Deucely
    @Deucely Месяц назад +1

    Why tho, just why. Gukesh is playing agresively for a draw, so he plays a variation where he can't trade anything, can't move, is forced to wait for a full force attack and just gets smoked, are you serious. Plus now we're going to have boring games the last two games. Oh well, looking forward to the rapid games.

    • @kmarasin
      @kmarasin Месяц назад +3

      The d4 line in the Neo-Catalan IS an aggressive line. The problem was that the follow-up play wasn't equally aggressive. I think whoever put together Gukesh's prep had this in the bag to play for a draw, but Gukesh took it too literally, expecting one of the two outcomes Ben explained.
      If a choice like that is really a choice, then there has to be a penalty for not choosing. If white is gonna wait on d4 to improve his position, black has to work to make d4 impossible. Pile up on the d-file, play Nd4, c5, that sort of thing. Instead Gukesh played passively.

  • @richarddecredico6098
    @richarddecredico6098 Месяц назад

    ugly chess for a WC

  • @danielszczypka6977
    @danielszczypka6977 Месяц назад

    Tricks are for kids - so Indian guy doesn't like slow strategic chess? Colle system next?

  • @14-Peaks
    @14-Peaks Месяц назад +1

    23 minutes with Ben!

  • @mcronrn
    @mcronrn Месяц назад +1

    Rawr!