Quick Tip: Favorite Cartridges & Loads
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- We've assembled the Triple Threat of Brownells Gun Techs - Caleb, Keith and Steve - to tell us about their favorite cartridges and handloads for them. Caleb favors the 9mm Luger (9mm Parabellum, 9x19mm) loaded with a 124 grain Federal Hydra-Shok bullet. His rifle round of choice is the 6.5 Grendel with a 123 grain Hornady SST bullet motivated by Reloder 10x. The Grendel fits the standard .223/5.56 AR-15 platform, yet outperforms 7.62x51 NATO in certain circumstances! Keith's favorites: the .300 Blackout with a 185 grain subsonic bullet for sound-suppressed shooting; the .308 Winchester / 7.62x51 NATO with a 168 grain bullet and Lake City brass; and what he calls the "Real Six Five" - the 6.5x55mm Swedish (aka 6.5 Swede) with a 140 grain Lapua bullet. It was the Swedish military's cartridge for a century, and it's also excellent for hunting game as large as moose and reindeer. Steve loves the .44 Special with a 245 grain Elmer Keith wadcutter powered by Alliant Unique, and a .357 Magnum loaded with either the Lyman 358439 or Keith cast hollowpoint driven by a healthy dose of Alliant 2400. On the rifle side, he favors two lever action rounds: the Winchester .30-30 and .32 Special with 150 and 170 grain bullets, respectively, and powered by IMR 3031 have more than enough oomph to bring home some venison.
My favorite handgun cartridge is the old and neglected 38 Special. For versatility and real-world effectiveness it's still a contender. From light wadcutter loads to +P pressure loads with bullets ranging from 125-158 grains there aren't many realistic situations the old revolver queen won't handle. Even with higher pressure loads it has a wonderful recoil impulse, and it is one of the most accurate straight wall cartridges ever designed. Most of us don't have to worry about big bears and PCP crazed 300lb hulks, and down here in the real world the old 38 Special shines. In perilous times such as these when damn near every caliber flies off the shelf as soon as it's unpacked at exorbitant prices, most people overlook the 38 Special, leaving plenty of ammo available for those of us with taste and refinement. There's not a man or beast alive (or dead) that could ever tell the difference in being shot with a 38 Special or 9mm Luger. Given that the revolver is the 38 Special's only real handgun platform, the 9mm in an automatic just can't match the 38 Special in the range of loads you can field reliably. I don't advocate that the 38 Special has a place in modern policing or military applications, I know her limits. However, in the field, the nightstand, or waistband of a citizen she's better now than ever with the myriad of ammo choices available to the modern shooter of this grand old design. Here's to the 38 Special. One of, if not the most, versatile and realistic centerfire cartridges ever designed.
smartacus88 totally agree. 38 special is an often overlooked and under appreciated caliber. Standard or +Ps in a K frame is pure pleasure.
Plus you can load the .38 with nice, soft lead that would upset an autoloader. The Boss isn't afraid of using it in her match shoots either!
Don't let the delusional tacticool guys hear that.
Brownells won't charge you an arm and a leg shipping on those occasions that you just want 1 box of jacketed bullets like the other guys do. That means when I need 6 boxes, they almost always come from Brownells. Always first rate products and service delivered to this long time customer, never a bad experience! I don't see how the two guys my age didn't work in a 30-06; so please let me include 30-06, Hornady 150 or 165 Interlock with not so secret charges of IMR 4064. Thanks for the content guys, it is always enjoyable.
Thank you for the long time patronage and kind words!
.303 British, my grandfather gave me his No.I mk.III* sporter. I've had that rifle for most of my life now.
Yep 6.5by55 paid $55 for my Swedish Mauser back in the 90s man what a great deer rifle
Me too!
7.7x38 Tarista is my go to. Accurate, hard hitting, and just fun to shoot overall.
44 WCF is my favorite. Loaded with 200 grain conventionally lubed hard cast bullets and a dose of Red Dot, or with hand cast "big lube" bullets and home made black powder lube, and a full case of FFFg. It's my all time favorite centerfire round, and I have 4 revolvers and 5 rifles in that cartridge, including an original 1873 Winchester that was made in 1879.
.270 Win 150gr is my favorite rifle cartridge. Have taken deer, elk, moose, black bear and groundhogs at distances up to 550 yds. Yes, I have killed groundhogs at 550 yds with that load. I think I'll keep it. Thanks fellas for another well done video.
Thank you, gentlemen, this was a very worthwhile and enjoyable video. I was pleased to see a few revolver “favorite cartridges.” Yes, there are fine reasons to favor autoloaders, BUT often we only consider “better” instead of “proven to be entirely adequate.” I no longer reload, but six 158 grain, top-rated JHPs, fired from a five-inch barrel Smith 27 (or 627), chambered in .357 magnum will easily handle ANY task I am ever even-unlikely to have.
Thank you!
I don’t reload but I like .45 acp cause I’m fat and slow too.
The grendel!!!
One of my favorite round I used a lot in the late 60's and early 70's was a 257 Roberts a necked down 7MM Mauser built on a custom Mauser action. It was stolen in about 1974 in a house robbery. I shot a lot of woodchucks with it.
My first deer rifle was in 257 Roberts. Then my dad bought a Brazilian Mauser in 7*57 not long after that. We've taken a lot of deer with those 2 rifles.
@@devlinfoster4503 My Dad had a Calvary carbine IN 7X57 he hundred in heavy brush with.
I live and hunt in interior Alaska. I reload a .270 Winchester for Sitka blacktail deer, Dall Sheep, black bear and caribou with the 130 gr Barnes TTSX and IMR 4350. For larger game such as bull moose and grizzly bear I reload in .300 H & H Magnum with 180 gr Barnes TTSX and IMR4831.
Trying to pick a favorite cartridge is like trying to pick your favorite offspring because you love them all for different reasons. The best I could think of is the 45ACP and the 30-06 because they're hard hitting. Then the 270WIN and 6.5 Grendel for reach. Plus the 6.5 Swede and the 22LR for pure fun.
I can not agree more about 9, 308 and Sweeden.
Thank you again you all and Brownells.
Thanks for watching!
my favorites are 6.5 Grendel and sub sonic 300 BLK
My favorite for handgun for 56 years has been the .357 mag ctg . Mostly i load 168 grain Keith design bullets.. My next favorite ctg is the .44 mag since 2002 , mostly i load 255 grain Keith design bullets.. For rifle i like the 7mmX57mm Mauser ctg.. In 2008 i added the T/C Contender to the list starting with the 30 Herrett and a year later added the 6mm TCU ctg..
Great video you have done ..
Oh yes, I was out last week, first long range gig for months, with my 6.5x55, using 140gn ELD-M at 940m.
It's also one of my favorite rounds, and I'm also on the lookout for an AG-42.
Mine's a bit warm, I get about 2900fps (881m/s) out of mine.
But my current favorite is the Swiss GP11 ball round for the 7.5x55, which I also shoot at 1000m+
Welp I love my 223/556..... BUT my stepson wanted a M1A for Christmas. So I got him one went to the range shot a steel 8” round. Well not long after that I ended up with a fully built AR10 Krieger M110 barrel and matching JP bolt. Sooooo now my favorites are 223/556 and 308/7.62x51. Still learning more and more about each everyday.
.303 British, 5.56 NATO, .45 acp and, .451 Whitworth.
My favorite is .270 win
9mm Luger because it is pretty much always with me. .45 ACP because big and slow is just fine. .300 Blackout because big and slow and quiet is even better. 6.5 Grendel because it has really long legs and doesn’t kick much more than .556 mm. And as someone mentioned earlier they don’t use massive amounts of powder
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50-110 Winchester And 50 BMG and 500 S&W are My Top 3 Favorites Centerfire Thanks Keith ,Caleb and Steve Great Choices
Mine has to be the .357 with a 125gn Hornady JHP. I sit it on top of enough ADI AR2205 (NZ equivalent to H4227) to just give it 2,000ft/sec from a 16" lever carbine and that's plenty for bush deer at 100 yards or more. Nice and flat, a bit messy up close, but you can pick your placement better at shorter ranges and it solves over-penetration!
Handgun is mostly for SAS, so max limit AP50 (no US equiv) gives a 158gn 2R cast Lee 750ft/sec from a 4.25" barrel. For long range pistol I take the same bullet to 1080ft/sec with a max load of our local equivalent of Universal. Works dandy in the lever gun too at 1280ft/sec (say what you like about Rossi but they're safe with LRN projectiles) .
Still working on the .308 rifle load. Probably a 150gn Hornady Interlok SP at around 2,800ft/sec but I'm trying to match trajectory with a cheap local 148gn FMJ that I use for service rifle competition out to 200yd.
I second that 45 request for example the 45-70, 45-100, 45-120, and the classic or odd arms that fire them. Thank guys great stuff!
The 300 ham'r from wilson combat is one of my favorites. My others would be the .243 win and the .357 mag as well
Never realized S&W 357 mag cylinders were shorter than some other makers. Why is that?
I'm a 44spl/mag fan also 357 mag and 45acp
I like the 300blackout for the same reasons and is my #1 go to AR style in the pistol barrel and brace set up for home defence away in vehicle defence or bug out bag because it's also perfect for hog hunting and deer hunting under 300 yards.
Can't forget 30-06 and 243 hunted with both for years and still do using basic Remington corelockt ammo 180 for 30-06 100 for 243
Infamous 'regulator' Tom Horn was reputedly fond of the .30-30 WCF cartridge late in his storied career when he was contracting to reduce the population of cattle rustlers.
My favorite loads 44 spl with 429-421 245 grain using Elmer Keith's bullseye gallery load ( can be found in his book Sixguns ) also load the classic skeeter load. Than 44 magnum using 20bhn 429-421 245 grain Keith bullet with a near max charge of H110, quite the handful in my S&W 69 4.25 chronographed at 1350fps! Minimul leading with properly sized bullets
In reloading terms, I like the .308 Win and .38 Spl. 147gr wadcutters over Bullseye in .38. Haven't found a "favorite" for my .308 yet. Have 3 purpose built loads. 150gr fmjbt for target, 150gr hpfb (frangible) for coyote/groundhog and a 165gr tipped bt for deer (and maybe one day) black bear and elk. IMR 4064 is what I like for the .308 loads. Newly discovered AR-Comp though...
No .45 AARP?
(Breaks a hip)
LMAO
@airbomb34...being someone that has an artificial hip...I laughed my ass off 😆😆😆...I’m gonna steal this and post in my Cowboy Action website 👍😎👍😎👍...thanks for the laugh! 👍
Lofl 🙄😆😆😆
22 hornet and 32 smith and wesson long, because a pound of powder will last forever with them
.22 Hornet is one of my favorite rounds for whatever needs doing. VERY accurate works great for everything up to coyotes at reasonable distances. I've killed a lot of wild hogs at fairly close range with head shots, on smaller pigs. Mostly when the pop up in my garden, which is usually a few times a year. CZ 527 makes an excellent launcher for the Hornet.
200 grain #68 Hensley & Gibbs-ish profile 45 acp with N320, Winchester large primer.
124 Grain cast flat point 9mm over Titegroup - the ultimate "do everything round"
I love titegroup powder. Fast burning like bullseye but measures more consistently for me and gives a cleaner burn. Shotgun powders in pistol cartridges with hotter primers is an less known trick that goes a long way toward consistency in shorter barrels.
I have a lot of favorite cartridges, but 45/70 ranks up there at the top. 38/55 and 444 Marlin are tied for second, and then my 3rd favorite is again, a toss up/tie between 7.5 Swiss and 6.5 Swede. There are too many good cartridges out there to play favorites with only but a few.
I love 38 special, 380acp, and especially 32acp. Maybe I like low recoil, maybe I like small powder charges, but I most certainly love pocket guns and the little pop guns that chamber those rounds are by far the most enjoyable to shoot. My favorite carry gun is my Beretta Tomcat.
How many pocket guns can you hand to someone new and have them enjoy shooting it? Give a newbie a pocket 9mm and they won't shoot it very much, but hand them a Tomcat and they will shoot all the ammo you brought to the range if you don't watch em'.
I didn't know that Steve was from Wisconsin. That's awesome !
.22LR, 9mm Luger, .38 Special/.357 Magnum
Honorable mention .32 ACP, .30-30, 40mm HEDP
My vote has to go to 38 Super. The 130 grain +P makes for such a flat shooting 1911
30-30 ..... IMR3031 ...... spitzer boattail bullet is a great option..... note: 30-30 has been used in benchrest competition
270 Winchester, .223/5.56, 35 Whelen. 9mm Luger
My favorite cartridge is Caleb’s hair
Boom!
I'm developing a load for the 308win using a cast bullet designed for the 7.62x39 round with a gas check on the end over a load of 2400 powder with magnum primers
I guess it sizes nicely when you fit the gas check?
@@VikOlliver yes it does I use an rcbs lubesizer for seating gas checks and lubing
My favorite lode is 5.56x45NATO MK262. 77gr mach king halling ass at 2750fps.
Yeah, the Sierra 77gr loaded with Ramshot TAC powder duplicates that and has been my favorite load for the 223 for well over a decade.
Nice. I'm getting supplies in hopes to replicate it.
@@SkintSNIPER262 The load I settled on using my moly coated 77gr Sierra bullets for my 24" bbl AR15 was 24.0gr of TAC powder with the OAL at 2.260", #400 CCI primer, and used the Lee's collet Factory Crimp die. That load chronographed for me at 2750ft/s!
@@Oldhogleg Thanks for the info. What is the purpose of the moly coating?
@@SkintSNIPER262 I shoot competition, mainly CMP High Power matches where a course of fire is typically about 60 rounds. A couple of decades ago I was noticing my groups would begin to start opening up at about 40-50 rounds from barrel fouling. From doing my own testing that moly coating delayed the fouling up to about 80-100 rounds. But don't believe the hype about it eliminating fouling, that's not true, it just merely delays it. And don't believe it eliminates the need to clean the barrel, it still needs cleaning just as frequently like you normally do. So as you can see my groups would begin to open near the end of the match and lower my score. The moly coating delayed the fouling till well after all the stages of fire were complete in the match.
Caleb's powder for his 9mm is "the Reloader"??? Well my favorite is "smokeless". I too won't share the charge weight... 😂
"Reloader" is a type of powder made by Alliant.
@@CalebSavantI'm familiar with Alliant's RL powders. However none have ever struck me as appropriate for 9mm loads. Unique, Bullseye, Power Pistol, Sport Pistol, BE-86, and some of their shotgun powders yes, but one of the RL's... Even RL 7 seems awfully slow burning for 9mm.
@@waltersobchak2973 RL 7 is certainly an appropriate 9mm powder.
I would not have guessed that. Can you direct me to where I could find some published load data to try it? Alliant's load guide lacks 9mm loads for RL7.
@@waltersobchak2973 Nosler has a bit, I recommend checking out their load data online.
22lr cries in corner
Just as it should. I Don't know how .22 was the only rimfire to survive till today.
@@massimothetrog7111 It's a good plinking and teaching round. 22s and 410s are generally the first guns a lot of kids are taught on.
A 6.5 Grendel is only better at a 1000 yards because the other heavier bullets the 308/7.62 NATO shoots and they also have to have a higher BC. They are heavier and wider. This means the 308/7.62 NATO loses its speed faster. The ft lb and armor penetration is far better for the 7.62 NATO at all closer ranges by a huge magnitude. Don’t get me wrong 6.5g is a great cartridge but I hate it when my buddy and you give one fact and act like it’s superior. (I don’t even own either but am a numbers guy, just look up Wikipedia if you don’t want an opinion.)
The 338 lapua magnum
Bought my BLASER R93 SLR chambered in the 338 LAPUA about two decades ago, and never regretted it; the range, accuracy, and down range energy is so well balanced.
150 Hornady for 6.5 Creedmoor
150 Gr .308
30/30 and 30-06 and .270
Nice!
Someday, maybe I'll start reloading again. Cast .38 Special and .357 Magnum rounds could be good for these times. If I had unlimited finances, I'd get an AR pistol in .300 Blackout.
Very interesting - could you do something similar about old rimfire cartridges like the .46 that was used in Remington Army New Model converted to cartridges or the .50 for rolling block pistols?
Possibly!
.22 LR. 222. 2506. 35 Remington
What is the OAL of that 357 Keith hollowpoint? I was looking to use it in my gp100 but I dont want to buy the mould if it ends up being to long
kinda suprised that no one choose the .308
Caleb, You like quarter bores well I am playing with the idea of building something in that range. I want a versatile round that will cover around the 70 to 120/130 grn area (varmint to deer) Looking at .257 Roberts. Figure on 500 yrd max and flat as realistically possible. Your thoughts and any other ideas? Thanks.
.257 Roberts for sure!
@@CalebSavant OK. I want to put it in a long action so I don't have to seat t he heavier bullets too deep. What do you think the COL and throat dims should be?
@@hazcat640 COAL would put you about 2.84" on the lands with most chambers, you can do a long throat and push it out to around 3".
@@CalebSavant Thanks. That was about what I was thinking.
slowly confirming my suspicion that nobody's favorite cartridge is .50 AE
Federal hydra shok? Can't find a better round? Looks like new guy didn't do much homework
Lol
5:15 Just finished re-watching the MrGunsnGear 300BLK video from about a year ago:
ruclips.net/video/4VNl7QXykUY/видео.html
I'm just going to leave this right here.
Yep that's what I commented about as well
I know I'm about to piss some people off, but Caleb could put a insomniac to sleep.
Not even mad... lol
I really hope people don't honestly believe 300 Blackout is optimized for less than 9" barrel. Please go watch a Mrgunsngear video on the round's velocity and barrel lengths. You'll be surprised..
Exactly my thoughts during this video. There is no cartridge that I know of that doesn’t benefit from a longer barrel other than primer only shots. 300 blk needs at minimum a 10” barrel to be equivalent to a 16” 5.56.
@Jeff Jeff I'd rather have a toilet seat made of solid gold, but that's not in the cards now is it?
“Optimized for a 8” barrel, anything past that you are t doing much more”... yeah that’s not how that works lol this fudd is spewing internet myths.