What Is a Dangerously High Ferritin Level? 🤷♀ It Is Lower Than You Think!
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- P.D. Mangan is talking about dangerously high ferritin levels and why high ferritin (iron overload) is bad if you want to live a long and healthy life.
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We also discuss:
• Reference ranges for ferritin.
• RDIs for iron.
• Association between insulin resistance and ferritin levels.
• Sing and symptoms of iron overload.
• Why dangerously high ferritin levels are common.
• Whether meat causes iron overload.
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I was diagnosed at 35 years old with hereditary Hemochromatosis. This was in 1995 when it took me 5 different doctors to finally tell me why i was so weak all the time. Back then you could NOT donate if you had a diagnoses of hemochromatosis now that has changed. The doctor told me to let my siblings and cousins know about my condition because it is hereditary. Well all my family laughed at me and only one of my sisters out of 3 got tested and was positive. The sad thing is my brother who was younger than me died at 40 years old from cirrhosis of the liver. He found out to late about his condition. I have lost 2 cousins 48 and 55 from the same thing. This is no joke and all men should get a test for this condition.Woman should test after they go thru menopause.
Great interview thanks. I've had a ferritin test done. I'm in the 600s so ill start giving blood and reducing the process carbs and red meat. Thanks
I learned alot, thank you!
I remember a tweet a few weeks ago from Dr. Rhonda Patrick stating that she read a study where rats or mice were phlebotomized and then infused with saline solution ( diluting the blood) and the study showed extended life outcomes. She related these findings to ones where these lab animals had their old blood replaced with the blood of younger animals with positive health comes observed. When I saw that I was thinking about iron overload being related with these interesting observations and results. It alone was enough for me to look into blood donation then. So glad I found your channel, Pim.
@Bobby Bob Yay, so glad you found your way here and even happier that you started looking into giving blood, both for yourself and others. 😊
Thanks for sharing as well!!
By mentioning Rhonda Patrick you reminded me her interview with David Sinclair. He became very rich with his resveritrol mumbo jumbo... Maybe he just should have said red wine chelates iron which reduce s inflammation... Could high ferritin be the cause of such bad diseases... Maybe something to think about
Another great video!
Fantastic guest and subject. Thank to you both! XO
Thanks @Shell F, yes I was so happy he said yes to come on my channel!
Nice going, you ! XO
Shell please check your discord 🙏
My daughter-in-law is extremely ill in hospital ... she has been diagnosed with Stills disease .... Her ferritin levels were high last week at 4750 .. today they are 49,000! She is only 25
Oh no. :(
I hope she's getting better soon. 49,000 is insane!
That’s an absolutely insane . Never heard of this .
@@RadicalFoodFreedom
I thought menses would dump her iron
Blood donations real effective. I usually donate 2-3 times a year on average, and my last ferritin level came in at 116.
They need to stop adding iron… they know it’s making people sick!!!
@@vikkiprevette2934 Yup. Try keeping the numbers lower ranges.
How is that done?
@@y122075t Through intense exercising atleast two times a week, drinking matcha green tea and donating blood at your local camp 1-2 times year.
You want to be ideally around 60-80 range.
I was on Blood donation centre and they told me I can’t do that because I have low platelets around 100k any suggestions??
Thanks Pim. I'm keen to learn the connection between fasting and iron accumulation.
Interesting, never heard anything about that?
Any idea what it is?
High ferritin? Donate blood, Red Cross is usually happy to take your blood.
Oh, he finally said it. Tea or coffee! Wine or dairy! That helps!
He looks flipping amazing. Off to donate ASAP loool
I know, looks 10-15 years younger than he is for sure!
SUCH a great talk! Thank you for this! I needed to hear this!
Hah! Glad you found it! :D
Excellent video very informative thank you doctor
The normal value ranges for blood ferritin are: Male: 12 to 300 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL) Female: 12 to 150 ng/mL
I am 54 years old have a 540/570 ferritin level and my Doctors says is ok but I have problems of inflammation in my body and I think it is effecting me in any other ways.
I had iron anemia while i was undisgmsoed with celiac disease.
Since I have been diagnosed and followed a keto diet, my tsh went to 5 twice while ferritin was at 400.
Then now even fasting glucose with just protein and fat is at 104 fasting.
I was listening to a renowned colon cancer oncologist... He kept repeating how some studies were showing tumeric as very anti colon cancer... Thinking about it now after your interview.... Could it have been the high ferritin that causes inflammation and tumeric chelates iron. How basic but sooo real. Great interview
Turmeric is also anti inflammatory, you have a point though. I don’t know the answer. Like your thinking.
Yes, turmeric does chelate iron. Same with cabbage juice, IP-6 [short term use is OK but not long term] and the iron antagonists namely, zinc and manganese. Curcumin + piperine is better than turmeric as they are more bioavailable.
There is a genetic test for hemochromatosis. If you are homozygous for the gene then you got one gene from each parent and you need to watch your ferritin. You may not have the gene. It could be easier to get tested for the gene so you know whether or not you need to worry about your ferritin levels. My sister did research on this topic and tested me and I'm homozygous for hemochromatosis. This video is a good reminder for me as a postmenopausal female that I should get my ferritin levels checked with some regularity. Important thing for people to know about. My sister thought she invented the concept, but she didn't. LOL She likes to take credit for everything. People have been researching this for a while.
haha let her bask in her glory 😁
My ferritin was 520 when I was 39 yrs old. I do not have hemochromatosis. I continued on the birth control pill for 13 years straight, keeping my menstrual bleeding low. I suspect I was insulin resistant back then, but showed no signs of gestational diabetes with either of my pregnancies. I went to see a couple different General Physicians specialist, who told me I had fatty liver and I should be more concerned about that than my ferritin levels. I had a fairly low fat high carb diet back then. Within 3 years my ferritin dropped to 134
I have metabolic syndrome nearly 20 years later, and I have a heart calcium score of 54.6 in the LAD :(
I'm on a low carb / high fat diet now. When I went off my diet for the first year of covid, my ferritin levels went back up to 522. They are slowly going down 8 months later to 417. I feel pretty worried after listening to this talk, I want them down faster. could this be the cause of my heart artery damage?
And so I think women should get your ferritin levels checked well before menopause!
It sounds like it's an inflammatory issue for you. Anything anti-inflammatory you can do will probably help. et enough sleep, de-stress, earthing, good nutrition, anti-inflammatory supplements, and so on.
Pls don’t mind asking me that if we have to go low carb so what will be the foods? Like they say take Non heme iron diet this that don’t take alcohol like any suggestions?
High iron is inflammatory. Lower the iron lower the inflamation
I cook with an iron skillet. I have stainless steel I need to get out of the closet. I always believed the iron was helpful? Thank you for the video Pim!
I was taught that too, but the iron from the skillet isn't as bioavailable. May still be of some benefit if you're deficient though I'd think.
My ferritin is 52 and my hair is thinning and I’ve got chronic fatigue. I’m aiming for a level of 80
What about ur hairloss
My ferratin was 500 from 700. I have stiffness and gut issues
I have had 3 years of medical tests monitoring metabolic metrics while reducing ferretin . All the factors were improving. I reduced Ferretin to 120 from 750. I missed my last 2 donations ( 3 monthly) and ferretin bounced to 200. Metabolic factors detoriated. From my experience over the last 3 years I would recommend keeping ferretin levels below 100. If values are above 100 I would donate blood as there is no down side to this and the local blood bank will love you .
That's amazing. Good job figuring all of that out!
Any noted improvements in symptoms?
@@AsdfGhjkl-bj3ei inflammatory markers are much better, lipid analysis is slower to react. Need to maintain serum ferretin below 100 for an extended period to reduce ferritin storage in the liver and heart to normalise all other metabolic systems being affected.
Interesting. I’m asking because my ferritin is 700 and I just found out I have hemochromatosis. I’ve had no libido, fatigue, mood swings, and low free testosterone since 2015. Wondering if maybe it’s due to iron overload.
Did you have any of the symptoms I stated above? Any change in those symptoms specifically since lowering ferritin?
I am an appointment with a specialist but im in Canada so it’s not until next year😳
@@AsdfGhjkl-bj3ei i just checked in at 373, should be 0 - 250. Go donate blood dude it lowers ferritin but ask your doctor to make sure, im probably going to do the same.
Is the optimal reading of 100 for ferritin for men or for women? Also what measurement for 100 .. ug/L?
My iron level was taken in April and is at 825. I'm still waiting to see a specialist! Time to get things done myself I think..
No harm in having blood drawn, plus you'll help people. Good karma
donate blood!! not kidding.
@@goodideas3221 The doctors wont refer me, saying 825 is low! This is the UK remember!
Give blood
Don't take vitamin c (least of all with meals)
Take milk thistle and Turmeric with meals
Take ip6 empty stomach
Great questions, great answers.
How is that dude 65?! 😱 He doesn't look a day over 50.
Good job guys
Definitely worth checking out...my ferritin level was really high but my iron level was normal, also had high cholesterol. Good thing I have a great doctor that checks these things. Just donated my first pint of blood so we will see how that affects my levels over time.
Read: "Grain Brain". high cholesterol is sugar & carbs.
How’s it going? Notice anything?
Thanks for reminding me. Yes, I had three blood donations, and my ferritin level dropped back to normal, it went from 300 to 65! I have a feeling a faulty cast iron pot that I used a lot had a lot to do with it.
Yep a bad doctor will kill you I parted ways with several lousy doctors to find a good one you have to shop around for sure
@@susanotten3263what do you mean by a faulty cast iron pan ? 🤔 my ferritin level is extremely high and iron levels extremely low. No idea what to do as I am tired and fatigued the fk out
Oxalate-containing foids are mineral chelators and those include cuccumine, tea (black and green), spinach, almonds. But oxalatrs are highly toxic and pose bigger problem than iron. Blood letting or hirodotherapy used to be effective ways of dealing with iron accunmulation.
How about low ferritin mine is 9 I believe the range is 14 to 150
I have been donating blood for years to bring my ferritin levels from 950 down to 150. But during covid, I stopped & my level has increased to to 920 again. But now I cant donate due to my levels being so high so not sure what direction next? Dont each much red meat or wine....
I just wanted to point out that metabolic dysfunction can definitely be present before the issues of iron overload. Metabolic disease is caused chronic sugar abuse . You don’t have to have iron overload to be metabolically ill. But high iron and hemochromatosis will definitely cause metabolic issues because the iron is being stored in your organs. Insulin resistance is the number one driver for liver fat and liver fat is the number one cause for metabolic disease.
Hello. My ferritin level went from 1 to 20, to 241. I've had Venifer injections 3 times in the past 8 months. What would cause this jump in ferritin level when heavy bleeding is still a major issue?
systemic inflammation. Ferritin is an acute phase reactant. It rises in an inflammatory state.
I had a Ferritin of 4580 back in 2018. After MANY phlebotomy treatments and a pint of blood taken out, I am now under 100. It has scarred my liver, and at age 63 I am completely Disabled now.
Oh, I am so sorry to hear that. I am on the other side of the spectrum with a ferritin level of 9, extreme hairloss and weakness but have started taking supplements.
Hello Dr. Mangan,
What is the most likely reason for a 254 ferritin point drop in 10 days?
Lab error? Other? I didn't think it was possible for the body to dump that much ferritin in 10 days...unless... its not really iron overload.
Background
I recently had two ferritin level tests from two different labs. Ten days apart.
1st lab - Labcorp - 8 am - 12 hr fast - ferritin:549, TIBC:232, Iron:106 Saturation: 45.7% RBC: 4.82
2nd lab - Quest - 1 pm - no fast - ferritin:295, TIBC:250(calc), Iron:74 Saturation: 30%(calc) RBC: 4.80
DNA test indicates I have no hemochromatosis.
Background:
69 yr. old male. Overweight and bad diet for 35 yrs. For the last 18 months I am doing LCHF, 18/6 IF, HIIT on a stair machine plus strength training. Dropped 47 lbs. Holding at 175 lbs for over a year. HOMA-IR: 0.79. I love meat but also eat 5% or more of my calories from vegetables. No sugar. No fruit. 13 gout flare ups in 15 years. Started blood donations ‘after’ these lab results. Your advice is appreciated.
If your low carb diet is recent and you are intermittently fasting, your ferritin could drop that much. Especially with a donation
Really informative, thanks!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. :)
I had an email that you replied again but I can't see it here. So if you were asking me something, please ask again. 🤗
@@RadicalFoodFreedom hi there, thanks. Ya sometimes I wonder if I'm saying too much on line? I've had hep c for what, 40 yrs and today i had a dr. visit so I can get my ferritin levels checked. I didn't realize before that you could have an iron overload without hemocromatosis?
@@ginapereira8948 Ahhh ok. I hope all went well. 🥰
@@RadicalFoodFreedom thanks🧡
Ferritin levels can be grossly misleading when assesing Iron overload.
My numbers....
Ferritin 86 (ref: 30-400)
Iron 233 (ref: 38-169) HIGH
UIBC 62 (ref: 111-343) LOW
Iron saturation 79% (ref: 15% - 55%) EXTREMELY HIGH
Given those numbers its a clear indication of iron overload.... but some practitioners would dismiss (as did mine) the significance of the iron load based solely on normal ferritin levels which is an extremely dangerous approach at assesing ones level of toxicity.
Non transferrin bound iron (NTBI) ... which essentially is what it says, free iron or iron that is not bound to a ferritin protein is a much more toxic form of iron to be floating around in a person's body. Obviuosly ferritin matters in the overall scope of iron accumulation.... however it doesn't account for the toxic levels of iron that aren't bound to the ferritin protien. High iron and high saturation indicate a problem, and in some cases ferritin fails to reflect how much of a problem iron really is.
Could give more info? what steps did choose to do next？
My saturated transferrin is 94%
Iron ymol/L is 44 (normal range 9-34)
Ferritin 80 (normal range 15-200)
Transferrin 1.9 (normal range 1.92-3.84)
I'm having all sorts of symptoms but doc says nothing to worry about. So confusing!
@@minniemouse625In my humble opinion, if your T-Sat is that high it needs to be investigated.....
I've had hemochromatosis when I was in my 30's I had to get blood taken out a few times and now it seems to be fine after that (I'm 52 now) and it hasn't been an issue since then. I'm also apparently insulin resistant.
Interesting. Hemochromatosis is genetic though, were you actually diagnosed with that or just high ferritin?
May be worth reversing the insulin resistance though!
@scottryan R u always hungry ?
@@Skybluewindcoolcould you add on this point.Why hungry all the time? what's the relationshiop there?
Does high feritin or low feritin... one of this condition cause Always hungry ?
My ferritin waz 7, I'm not worry about overload. I need infusions to function.
The fun thing about going to your doctor every 3 months for med refills and they do blood test everytime and your fine is that they dont check every thing so you get sick and they blame you,,,,then your in hospital and they say you have have lets say sleep app then a year later your told you have and had for years very high levels of iron so then you have to go to a blood doc,,,i will see tommorro.
Can you work out ferritin from haemoglobin values? My haemoglobin is on the low side (3 points below normal levels).
No
Thanks Pim, interesting. Another marker that is under the radar and underestimated in value in the medical world
You're welcome! 🤗
I finally got My ferritin tested and it was is 200. and ever since i had mono two years ago ive had really bad digestive problems especially with red meats and liver pain, should i be donating blood?
I think you should do more blood test to understand the cause of join Ferritin. If it's iron overload blood donation is good idea, if not then it would probably not work
I am confused so any advice would be appreciated. My GP ordered a ferritin blood test that came in at 288. He was a little concerned and arranged a repeat test 6 weeks later. This time my ferritin came in at 350. If ferritin accumulates slowly over time, how can i get a 62 point increase in my ferritin so quickly. I am worried but my GP was not concerned and dismissed any further tests. By the way my transferrin was 45%, i am fit and i do weight training and cardio but have muscle aches and lower pelvic belly / pain, this was the reason GP asked for this blood test. Any advice please on how ferritin can go up so much in so little time. Thank you
Thyroid issues
Interesting! I remember at 16 years old donating blood and I was told my iron level was slightly high. At 17 I was diagnosed with diabetes. Was that elevated iron level a sign of what was to come? Hmmm...one wonders.
Would be interesting to know if many type 1 diabetics have increased iron levels before diagnosis. 🤔
When people are sick iron raises this is the case with even common cold but it will depend what you are classing as high.
@LynleyvanAlphen R u always hungry ?
@@Skybluewindcool so long ago don't remember
@@lvr2704 Diabetis don't make u hungry ?
So what do you eat ?
Can you tell the book name the doctor suggesting?
My is 177 and I'm worry about it,I have brown spot coming out on my face, I thought it was hyperpigmentation bc the sun,but my lab results is showings that my ferritin is higher than normal. So now I wonder if that the reason for it.
177 is fine, IMO. A couple of blood donations will definitely bring it down to under 100. Cheers!
Well, I'm super screwed my test results show I have iron overload: iron: 59.1 transferrin: 3.99 saturation:59% ferritin: 1274 ug/L any advice to reduce these levels?
What's your diet like? The first thing I'd look at is to make sure you're reducing inflammation.
It could also be temporary if you have or recently had an infection etc.
@@RadicalFoodFreedom I was on a clean bulk for the previous 6 months with 60% of my caloric intake being protein. My doctor warned me to stop it completely alongside the vitamins & testosterone boosters (non-PEDs, I'm natty...😂 for now) that I take. My results also showed minor liver damage so I'm booked to get an Ultrasound and a second blood test for potential liver related infections.
@@RicoPlays That might be a good idea. You can also head over to P.D's twitter page and send him a message to see if he has any ideas for you.
I'm an almost 56-year-old female. I have hypothyroidism due to irradiation ablation and I have been in the pre-diabetes range for years now. I have high Ferritin, so I assume that it is mostly insulin resistance or are both conditions equal factors. I have read that high Ferritin is one of the 5 markers for a high mortality in CoVid-19, so I am even more concerned about this.
use a bit of turmeric on your steak, but don't overdo it and end up causing yourself anaemia, www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6414192/ and after a month check your ferritin levels and increase or decrease the turmeric use until you get to your target level.
STUDY:
Conclusions
Turmeric supplementation is increasingly common. Humans presenting with iron deficiency anemia should be queried about supplement use. The ability of turmeric to absorb intestinal iron may lead to it being useful in states of iron overload, such as hemochromatosis, or hemolytic anemias, such as sickle cell disease.
What's your diet like? You should probably focus on getting the inflammation down asap. xx
@@RadicalFoodFreedom yep, that should be a priority...
Harry Serpanos wanna come back on my channel and talk about something nerdy? 😆
The following is a reply I made to someone that was going to undertake a procedure that involved radiation, it's not my speciality area but may help. So it's not medical advice, but the best I can come up with from old research.
Email message:
Sorry (Name withheld) for the late reply, I just noticed your email.
potassium iodide and keto/fasting can be protective. also, the thyroid is the most sensitive organ to radiation.
other things that are helpful.
1. chlorella, based on 1950s US army research, take on an empty stomach. www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/67492/swisse-chlorophyll-1000mg-200-tablets
2. spirulina, based on russia Chernobyl research, 5g for 45 days on an empty stomach. www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/67499/swisse-organic-spirulina-1000mg-200-tablets
3. selenium is anti-cancer and reduces the effects of radiation. ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Selenium-HealthProfessional/
4. triphala, in mice study mice, were poisoned with high dose radiation, those give triphala had a 60% survival, all the controls died. www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/84769/bioglan-triphala-60-vegan-capsules
5. sulphur foods can protect against radiation "P450 detox enzyme": fish, eggs, onion and meats/organ meats
these are the only things I can pull out of my hat at short notice.
PS: chlorella & spirulina can also chelate minerals, so only take these on an empty stomach.
warm regards,
Harry
mine is creeping up and now at 374 but i am asymptomatic , my CRP is less than 1 and my diet is high meat, low carb and i weight train. Any explainations?
Same here, any explanations?
A few months ago, I learned that i have hereditary hemochromatosis. Male, almost 40 yo. Ferritine 1713. My case has been transfered to hematology dept, no news since last december? I'm hearing a lot a people being scared around lvl 1000 so should i panic? I've started donating blood as much as allowed. Eating more eggs, reduced red meat.
What should i do now?
I think donating blood is one of the best ways to manage this. I'd contact the hematology department and ask for an update and perhaps for more advice as what you can do while waiting.
I am at the low levels of iron and you did not speak about what should be the lower levels!
My husband is 73, his iron level is 96, ferritin level is 1308, RBC is 2.76, he has no genetic problem, they just keep taking and testing his blood, so stressed.
2400, dropped the cast iron and carbs. Went Keto, it dropped to 1300 in 10 weeks, and 30 lbs. Last check was 1048, now I donate blood every 60 days. Going to check it again next week.
My ferritin is 327 is that too high??
@@culizocolonenseThe normal value ranges for blood ferritin are: Male: 12 to 300 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL) Female: 12 to 150 ng/mL
Down to 525 now. Giving blood and doing keto..
@@chucklesthefireguy5356 Do you lowered your level from 1300 to 525 in one donation?
no, took a few @@cadburykiller2649
Thanks so much for this video . My ferritin has been 359 for 2 years . My hair is falling out, my joints ache and I’m low in mood . Because my LFTs are normal and full blood count the dr is doing nothing. Is there anything I can do to bring it down ?
Donate! You don’t need a doctor.
Turmeric and coffee can lower ferritin..sweating from exersice can reduce too.
I'm a 26 year old male and my ferritin is 326 is that too high?
@@culizocolonenseyes, you should check transferrin saturation if its >45% you got iron overload
Is there a lower limit where you need to supplement? I am a menstruating women, gave birth twice, and have a ferritin level below 15 mcg/ml…is this healthy? Or I am way too low?
I think it is 👌 I can't think of anyone better for this subject and women's hormonal health other than Ray Peat PhD. I hope this will be helpful
Is it 25:00 decaff coffee ok? On carnivore for 40 days ferritin 300. Off the coffee for the duration. Will start coffee. Not good.
My ferritin is 12 and hemoglobin 144
Transferrin 0.25
What should I do?
I m very ill.
Thyroid issues. Plus deficient in folate and riboflavin. So your body cant produce red blood cells
The units in the vid are ng/dL. My ferritin is 129 mcg/L which is 12900 ng/dL. The range on my results is 30 to 400 mcg/L, ie 3000 to 40000 ng/dL. So either the range is wildly high or the man got his units wrong. Which one is it?
Ive only seen ng/mL ( mcg/L ), with population range usually 20-400 ng/mL magnitude order.
What about cooking with cast iron?
Which polyphenols??
Can u pls put some lights on that low platelets N high Ferritin has connection??pls N can I donate blood with low platelets Range around 100k pls this is urgent
When he says below 100 or below 250, he means micrograms / L, right? I can't find where he mentions the units used.
ng / mL, or, micrograms/ L, (the same) is the usual units
I believe everything he said. However. I believe sugar is the culprit
I think Dr Natasha Campbell-McBride said eating raw egg whites is associated with removing heavy metals from the body.
Sounds worth a look.
I don't want to lose my hair
Interesting, but as an ongoing solution I think it will do more harm than good. Avidin in the egg whites bind extremely well to biotin so personally I wouldn't do this very often.
@@RadicalFoodFreedom thank you. That is good to know!
Drinking cabbage juice is much more palatable and it has been reported that it works too ! When iron level is high, one should counterbalance it with its antagonists, namely zinc and manganese.
Great interview. I really needed this information.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Copper competes with iron and zinc and most people are deficient.
NAC chelates heavy metals, including iron.
IP6 has no good data behind it but turmeric seems to work ok-ish
So nac is something one could take of ferritin and saturation percentage is high?
I wonder whether my brother died of haemochromatosis. The autopsy was inconclusive. We are still waiting for the result of the investigation.
Pity my brother did not drink tea or coffee.
Here in Britain there are lots of reasons why you may not be allowed to give blood.
My iron levels is 750,I tried to donate blood but they cnt get the big needle in my veins,now I'm told I need to have a port implanted in me to get my iron levels down 😮
Yikes! 😬
Hmm, so how do we prevent ferritin levels from rising? Somehow the video was not really specific on this, or did I miss it (apart from basically drinking caffeine or alcohol, which is not an option)?
He mentioned that he's eating a meat based diet and he's not having a problem, so it seems somehow that eating a very low inflammatory diet and avoiding anything with added iron would be useful.
I’ve got low iron caused by my diet. I was taking a high dose turmeric tablet, drinking no orange juice, not much red meat, and too much dairy and eggs. All of which were depleting my iron stores without me knowing. So if you eat less Vit c, more turmeric, eggs and dairy, your levels should drop like mine did.
Phlebotomy, drinking green tea, rice bran, curcumin, fasting, low dose aspirin.
This is answering your old reply, but dr. Berg mentioned lactoferrin on a video in regard to ferritin
I donate blood 2- 3 times a year on average. Very effective, as my last ferritin level came in at 116.
Diatamaceous earth food grade?
Mine is 53 is that low? I eat lots of red meat and some dairy as well.
Male in my 30s
53 is very very good. Translation, you are not rusting internally. 👍
My last test level came in at 116.
Thank you for your needed information. My ferritin level has been around 800-1200. So, I started drinking exjade medicine three days ago. So, I am I doing right thing? If there is such medicine to reduce ferritin level, why everyone is not taking it to reduce? I hope you will give me comment. Thank you
Has you ferritin levels dropped any?
Interesting. My Ferritin level is 977, and I don’t have any of your symptoms nor do I have any disease. My TIBC is Low. No metabolic disorder, no IR. My CCTA shows ZERO blockages; no HBP; I’m following a low carb way of eating for over a year. So perhaps it’s not a “one size fits all” scenario.
I don't believe it's ever a 'one size fits all'.
I have blood phlebotomy i have lower my iron but ferratin is not 500 and 500 until my last test before and after
15:00 metabolic syndrom and iron
Are the ranges he talks about in ng/ml?
ng/dl not ng/ml. :-)
Thanks very much to both of you for the interesting interview. I think there is important information missing, however. Where is the argument that high red meat is not problematic in this regard? Not only is red meat‘s iron about half heme-iron, but its also high in iron. To my knowledge the absorption of iron can only be regulated with non-heme-iron. Do you have any information about this? High unregulated iron intake would surely lead to overload. Observative data that says something like meat contributes only a small amount to iron in normal peoples diets is not translatable to a meat based diet, because quantity is vastly different.
And to the other comment that claims people have seen their ferritin drop by a lot; that could also be because of lowered inflammation. In reality their iron might have actually risen, but acute immune response is way down.
Interesting points. I'd suggest you read his book to start with.
What he and many other have experienced is that an all meat diet reduces ferritin. Most likely due to lower inflammation indeed. I'm not sure how high meat and red meat would differ in the uptake of iron? Do you suggest that the bacteria in high meat would affect this?
If ferritin drops, how would one then store more iron? Yes there are other ways of storing iron, but not huge amounts of it.
Howdy! Im still alive lol. Its been a bad year so havent been online much. Hope you are doing well!
Miss Pagan!!! Hope all is well. :)
@@RadicalFoodFreedom it is what it is lol. Im going back through videos ive missed.
Free Iron I feel is the issue not high glucose. My testing showed disregulated glucose and lipds despite a keto diet and normal HB1AC. Lowering the Ferretin level reduces corresponding metabolic disregulation. I am hetrogenous for hemachromatisis. It's really a win win situation donating blood and is independent of doctors visits.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing. :)
iron 25
Ferritin 170 is it high?
Yes
My ferritin is 165ng/mL and my saturation is 46%. I'm kind of worried. Should I be? I don't eat liver, I don't take supplements with iron, I don't know why it would be so high. I did have covid two weeks ago. Idk if that's the cause or not, as this is the first time I've ever had iron checked.
Ideally you want to be under 50 but that will be easy for you if you donate blood regularly. Look into all the food you eat and try to drop foods where iron is added; cereal, bread, flour, etc. you will be fine.
@@statictech7Hi. 50? Who recommend this level? Dr G. Lyon likes it 100-150, optimal 130. But I don’t know 😵💫. My is 170…
I just had my ferritin check and is 159 is it high?
Watch the video ;)
I have 520 Ferratin but everything else fine, doc said I’m good , don’t know what to believe 😂
Wow .. I just found out my ferritin is 192.8 after a bit of googling I’m freaking out.. my follow up is due & I’m losing sleep browsing for answers.
@@SimV239 You should be fine man .. given the rest of ur results are ok
My ferratin levels are very high and I feel tired and fatigued all the time and lot of joint pain
Are you always hungry ?
@@Skybluewindcool I’m always starving mine is over 400 probably even higher now after I did carnivore
@@Isaac-ec4tc Do u have insulin resistance ?
>routine bloodwork
>ferritin at 580
>freak out and check the other iron markers + inflammation
>transferrin sat at 25%, hemoglobin and eritrocytes high-normal, serum iron low-normal
>the rest of morphology normal
>normal liver panel
>hsCRP at 0.8
>other inflammation markers low as well
>doctors baffled, no idea what to make of it
>can't donate blood because of reasons
Guess I'll just die
How about blood letting without the donation part?
@@RadicalFoodFreedom Lol, jokes aside, that's the plan now. Just gotta figure out the how and where. I'd rather not DIY it if I can avoid it.
@@Peter-vn5jq Yeah I wouldn't DIY that myself either and I DIY many things lol
@@RadicalFoodFreedom Imagine the obituary:
"local idiot found dead with a needle in his arm and a bucket of blood next to his corpse. Police suspects a weird kind of suicide"
@UC7F%F0%9F%98%86Zmhm0HKJq6bTeomM4IvA haha or a BIG headline about some cult member trying to perform some evil ritual that's gone wrong 😁
What about vitamin c? Does that raise iron levels ?
No, but it increases absorption of non heme (iron not from meats) iron. So vitamin C supplements should be avoided if you have high ferritin
@@d.nakamura9579 so without donation how do you lower ferretin - just had surgery can’t donate
My ferritin is 134
Iron saturation 32%
Iron 17
Iron binding 53
Hemoglobin 150
I'm 22/female. Is this high?
I rarely have a cycle.
And have gut issues
Not high, very healthy.
@@jackrogers8633 really? That's great! Apparently based on the blood clinic anything over 120 ferratin is too high. So I guess it depends on the clinic. But thank yky for the response!!
150 is the max for a woman
My Hb 138
Ferritin 28
The most Parkinsons patients are anemic and low feritin
My ferrartin is highish at 219 but they won't let me give blood because my serum iron is too low.
Yes, good. Ferritin is the storage. A systemic infection can cause your serum iron to be locked away in ferritin in an effort to correct the situation. Sort the infection out(not with antibiotics) and you will sort your iron issues out. Artemisinin is a great alternative.
@@garyfinch1840 I don't have infection
@@stuwhite2337 That you know of. The jaw is a popular hiding spot that a 3d scan will detect. Inflammation can perceived by the body as an infection and react the same way. Are you inflamed at all? How's the liver?
@@garyfinch1840 fine as far as I know. I eat a very low carb, natural food diet so no reason to expect any inflammation
@@stuwhite2337 many people are inflamed and just don't realize it. Do you carry any extra weight? have digestive issues at all?
IT's a big problem copper helps Colloidal then all the minerals balanced start with hair tisuue analysis then therapeutic oils wheat germ black seed cod liver AND glandulars possible detox program virus its deep
There is the idea that the optimal ferritin is 0. The body dont need any storage as we recycle iron and its not really eliminated. Its supposed to be in circulation and ceruloplasmin and copper is responsible for driving iron metabolism.
Interesting for sure. As long as we have enough to cover he generation of new blood cells in case we are injured I guess lower is better.
Ive done a few blood donations and always feel better. Iron accumulate in tissues etc. Theres plenty. As long as we have enough retinol the body effectivly make new blood. There is also hemociderin, another protein that store much more than ferritin.
0? People are telling me mine is too low at 29 and I've been having PVCs.
@@sovereignsoulutions6612 And they are wrong. Its fine.
@@Byrial where are you getting your information?
How do I lower iron without donation blood?
Ip6 inositol
@@user-wt9fo5sx5s interesting. Thank you for this information! However a quick search shows the other minerals I'm taking such as magnesium and zinc can also be affected. "Phytic acid can bind with calcium, iron, magnesium, and zinc and reduce their bioavailability. "
@@user-wt9fo5sx5s is it a heavy metal detoxing agent?
The fact PCPs don't do these blood tests astounds me WE have to ask for one
My Ferritin Level is 1950
Hope you're doing better now! My good friend had a little higher than that and other abnormalities. I wonder if it has anything to do with ferritin nanoparticles in the 3 newest vaccines
Donated blood, one day after, my ferritin is still over 100. What do I do? Can’t donate again until after 8 weeks.
My transferrin saturation is really high 56% than normal level and all other iron status is normal I have lots of digestive issues too can you please Help me
I'd suggest you approach PD himself, check the links in the description. Good luck!
@@RadicalFoodFreedom I’m in India how can I consult him?
@@RadicalFoodFreedom I even have white coating on tongue my liver is not detoxing properly bcz of this iron overload
@@Masspeace There are two links in the description, try either of them.
@@Masspeace You have Iron overload. and your hemoglobin level is ?
My ferritin was at 5
My ferritin is 29...what's too low?
This is just what my doctor at the Mayo Clinic told me....so take it as you will...ferritin levels are considered healthy at 11 to 300 for a female. However, if you are displaying symptoms of non-iron deficiency anemia then they want your ferritin between 45 to 70. My ferritin is 23 and I have been experiencing shortness of breath, extreme fatigue and hair loss. All other causes have been ruled out so my doctor is working with me to get my ferritin closer to 70.
@@Awall79 I get PVCs
@@sovereignsoulutions6612 I don't have that...but I know its an issue with anemia. I hope you get some answers. I know personally its been a real struggle because I just can not get my ferritin to rise. I've had transfusions, pills, diet changes, surgery to ease period flow...nothing works. It is frustrating.
Below 30 is absolute deficiency
Meatrx had a few anecdotes (just for bart to do a voice impression of a certain someone) of people who turned their ferritin around purely by moving to a meat based diet, numbers like 1400 down to below 200 in about 8months etc. It seems less likely the intake but the outlet is constricted.
If they are claiming that by just changing diet made it drop from that high number to that low number it's a lie this is not possible you need to have blood loss or blood removed to do this also you can have IV medications but these are not recommended.
Interesting @Scott W, what outlet mechanism is there to change that quickly in just 8 months?
@@RadicalFoodFreedom I believe the simplest way to look at this is that how does any metal on a low carb diet react? While not the same in most people many flush them out of their system, I know I end up having to suppliment with plenty of salt in my water. Kidney fanction would be my main bet on this. Are there any renal specialists you know that could answer something like that about iron perhaps?
@@RadicalFoodFreedom also is a related condition, hyperferritinemia, from a 2008 paper the conclusion was that liver steatosis and insulin resistance but not iron overload. The ferritin levels were believed to be directly related to the insulin resistance. (a close paraphrase of the conclusion) . Other papers point to a close relationship of fatty liver and this condition. My uneducated guess would be when the liver begins to go down the metabolic syndrome path this would affect the kidneys interrupting effective removal of excess iron.... part of this is the talk in most papers of this where phlebotomy also resulted in most symptoms of metabolic syndrome in these patients easing (but not gone).