The STUNNING experience of traveling between Austria and Croatia with ÖBB Eurocity
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- EUROPEAN TRAIN TRIP #7
Hi everyone, welcome to this trip report bound to Zagreb (Croatia) with OBB Eurocity.
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- TRIP INFORMATION -
Railway company: OBB Eurocity
Train type : Bmz + Bpmz
From : Wien Hauptbahnhof to Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor
N° of train: EC1259
Duration : 6h53
Price : 59,90€
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they are still using compartment coaches! what a dream! this is a great surprise!
How about you check out Sweden, Slovakia and the Czech Republic?
@@olasola1013 oh! thank you!
I love train videos. It's amazing that you can get almost anywhere in Europe on the train, and a lot faster than on Amtrak.
SZ former Yugoslavian Railways class 342 is of an Italian Design. E646 or E656 FS Italy.
The Slovenian railways locomotive that was pulling you was designed and built in Italy by Ansaldo (SŽ class 342). Now, either you don't consider Italy as western Europe or you assumed that it is an eastern locomotive since you were in Slovenia :)
Typical for people from the "west" thinking they're sth better 😉
Still, Slovenia is rather central - southish European country...
öBB long distances trains are the most incredible and comfortable in Europe. Have you ever try the NightJet? The best overnight train in Europe I think
They are very good but I find the new polish couchettes more comfortable.
They saw the market, not for a way to go from A to B, but for funtravelling by train.
@@dirkusmaximus9268 Exactly!
Simply Railway has been on the NightJet
11:28...some years ago these compartments were running as "Business Class"-Compartments. You had to pay extra to get seated in of them. Nowadays you can use them with a regular first class ticket. ✌
I guess they changed it because of the new RailJet taking over. :)
They were 2nd class in the 80s, I do remember that. We could travel on them using InterRail with no surcharge.
That first class private coach is beautiful, along with the rear view that we got this time this was awesome.
8:53 Power Outlets in the Bmpz73 are in upper position, behind the upper rack.
In some of them. Some (like the one in the video) have them mounted underneath the window/table, but unfortunately not in all rows. As far as I remember those cars were retrofitted in several batches; the first ones have the sockets on the wall, later they changed it to the overhead position.
I guess it's much simpler there: you can unrig the whole luggage rack (it probably was repainted anyways during the refurbishment), take it to the workshop bench, and conveniently route the cable through the metal profiles - no need for cutting holes in the walls (which are partially structural in these cars!) and thread in cables for every row...
I took this train in oposite direction from Graz to Vienna in January of this year and after traveling with ČD few days prior, I was very underwhelmed by the experience. OBB was not even in the same league in terms of comfort, customer service and staff, which frankly surprised me as I was expecting them to be way better. But the views at Semmeringbahn were indeed stunning, my favorite part of the journey, can't wait to travel on the route again.
It's so great that you covered this route! I take it at least once a month to visit my family in Slovenia. I live ten minutes away from the station!
There are some coaches similar to these in the Hungarian railways too
I absolutely love Wien Hbf. It's probably my favourite station of all time.
Your videos are really enjoyable and interesting to watch, so have inspired me to start making my own similar ones. Mostly in UK to start, but then Europe again when I can. Thank you very much, keep it up! :)
And I think you made the right choice to go in Second Class, because First Class is just the same with a bit more room and leather seats instead.
I love only espana..espana says...kosovo is Serbia.
The electric locomotive of Class E 342 of Slovenian Railways (SZ) seen here, dates back to 1968-70, when they worked for Yugoslav Railways (JZ) , all were made in Italy, by OM/ Ansaldo for working on 3 kV DC supply .
And they are still among the most reliable ones ...
Mais il te faut un oscar ou 1 million d’abonnés tes video sont trop super
Merci :) :)
Nach dem Bahnland Schweiz (SBB/BLS) ist Österreich (ÖBB) das Land in Europa mit einem gut funktionierenden Eisenbahn-System. Après le pays ferroviaire "La Suisse" (CFF/BLS) l'Autriche est le pays européen avec un système ferroviaire qui fonctionne bien. Merci pour votre témoignage.
These seats are so much more comfy than the one in railjet and if it’s empty that you can pull them out and make a bed 💓
Very nice review. Imagine being cought sitting in 1st class but having 2nd class ticket 😁
12:23 Croatia is obliged to join Schengen and has met all the technical requirements according to the EU Commission, but the accession needs the approval of all the other member states, particularly as Croatia is an EU frontier state. First half of 2020 is the current expected date.
Unfortunately, Croatia still hasn't worked their act together. Still not in the Schengen zone and still one needs to undergo long passport controls for entering it.
@@nikossamsung10 luckily we have, since january first we are officially both in the schengen and euro zone, tho the air travel has three months to adjust to it, but the land borders are no borders inside the eu for us any more after the new year.
@@dannyboy_vtc8980 Really? Because every time I cross into Croatia from Slovenia, I've got to undergo a passport control. Latest this happened in June.
@@nikossamsung10 yeah it took time for the member countries to do their stuff in their local parliaments, pandemic also slowed it all down, but yeah ofc you have the passport control because it is not started yet, double written prices in stores in both currencies are just starting now, but we are switching officially on january 1st of '23, so no for this year you will be checked thru.
OBB sold some of these carriges to RegioJet and ČD. the other day I rode ČD R "Vysočina" (R stands for Rychlík - fast train but lower quality than IC) and thse carriges were the most comfortable on hte whole train. Better than my first class coach, built in the 80s in eaastern germany:-D. More recently OBB started refurbishig these coaches to couchetts for their nightjet sleeper services and I have to say, they did a stellar job.
Thanks for all the bike information both on your train tour and in the on screen text, really helpful for cyclists planning a journey. Cheers, Tim.
For 59,90E alone in a 6 seater compartment was a big bargain plus comfort and privacy. Good you did not upgrade and spent extra 50 to 60Euros more. No way. I will do the same. I salute you. If the trip is full , maybe not. But I used to do that in the 70s and 80s with those old trains. It was fun though even trips were much slower then.The best looking seats you showed, I think it's Business Class. Happy travels.
Please try the Portuguese Alfa Pendular, CP's train that runs at high
speeds (max 220 km/h). It goes from Braga - Porto - Lisboa - Faro. The
main cities are Lisboa and Porto. You can try 1st class
(Conforto/Comfort) or 2nd (Turística/Touristic). Thank you and keep
going with your magnificent work!
Super Thibault , j’ai hâte de voir la suite à Belgrade !!
La Karawankenbahn et le reste sont super sympas !
This reminds me of old SBB stock. I really enjoyed that when I was a kid.
Cool shirt btw! :-)
Those 1stClass compartements with 4 seats are called "Buiseness Class".
The folding out seats were standard in Germany in the 1980s. It was great. If you had a rail pass you didn't pay extra to book a couchette and if you were in luck you got to sleep the whole night through. A nights accomodation saved :) !
Les 1eres sont assez proches de celles de Railjet, surtout ce carré business.Quant à la transformation des banquettes en "lit", je me demande si ce n'est pas parce que ces voitures OBB peuvent servir sur des trains de nuit. Les compartiments n'étant pas toujours tout occupés, ils peuvent être ainsi transformés.Ce petit réseau est innovant et moderne. Merci de nous l'avoir montré.
The compartment is just like the earlier express train parts of the Deutsche Bundesbahn: All 6 seats can be pulled out and form 3 lying areas, each seat in the aisle has a small table that can be pulled out, the narrow mirrors above the headrests create endless reflections. In the past, every seat had a pull-out ashtray in the armrest. - Cheers, Heinz
Will ride one of them in February shortly before they get replaced with the new Railjets on the Innsbruck-Munich Service
Nice trip with OBB I like that some seats can be rolled out to create a makeshift bed if tired
Vienna station 🚉 is stunning..
This is a really nice video, it brings back memories of when I visited Vienna a few years ago.
Some small notes, though:
You didn't cross any of the Dinaric Alps. Zagreb is on the same side of them as Vienna.
You say that a small part of the journey is through Slovenia, but that section is longer than the part through Croatia.
You say that the Slovenian locomotives are different to Western European ones, but the one that pulled your train is made in Italy.
I hope you had a great time in Croatia. If you ever plan on coming again, I recommend taking the train between Rijeka and Zagreb for some nice views. I particularly like the rear view as the train leaves Rijeka.
They use the same coaches in Belgium on some IC trains between Brussels and Arlon
Love it how the train started to separate at Graz Hbf.
Austria is en Central Europe, not Eastern Europe
He never said that!
@@silverbolbo Yes he did say it ... at 5:44
@@HandleGF He's a french boy. For him is everythink in the east of France "Easter Europe"
5:39 I went in Vienna several years ago with two friends of mine and when we came back in Italy we just joined all our seats like that to sleep… we almost didn't remember to wake up… ahahah!
Yes, these seats have been around for ages. I went on an interrail back in the 1970s (that ages me!) and we had them on the train from Copenhagen to Paris. The compartment was full of inter-railers like me, so we put down all the seats and simply took off our shoes and all "intertwined"!
@@briangentle5515 I just travelled last month for job in an italian night train... luckily there are still compartment seats there! not in daily trains
0:25 - Your train did not cross Dinaric Alps - the one going from Zagreb to Split did.
5:38 If you slide the seat down and on the in front, they join in the middle and becomes a bed. It's very useful in night trains, and if you are backpacking. BTW, you should mention these are Eurofima coaches. Austria, France, Germany, Italy, and other countries used to have these coaches. They are awesome.
I looooove this station in Vienna - I felt joyful every time I had to travel to or from there & of course I also love ÖBB - coming from Australia where long train journeys are almost non existent because apart from the state capitals there is nothing to see in inland Australia
High speed train isn't above 300, but 200. You are following your country speed limits, and that's incorrect
You‘re right there!
once again a very nice video, i'd love to travel with the OBB one day. and i totally agree that the compartiment carriage, as much of a dying breed as it is, should be kept since its what it makes railway travel unique. i even think that high speed trains should have some in this format, but its unfourtunate how the railway industry prefers open coaches, similar to airline seating, theres not much privacy, its not even that amazing, it just makes the train travel experience less interesting (granted they are sometimes comfortable though). also motorrail trains could be useful in the future as they would do great to reduce congestion on the roads.
i'll keep watching the videos, they seem awesome.
Well, from a train conductor's view - I feel a little safer with more people around and the ticket inspection is a lot easier in open plans. But as a traveller, I much prefer compartments.
Kenn gut die Strecke gutes video
I prefer the compartments, more privacy and a quieter ride.
7:09 rare to see who´s the operator 😍
Great work. U r really a train lover. Covered bit of Vienna new station. Its so huge and modern. Nice. I felt as if I was travelling .
(6:11) At a viaduct of the famous Semmering. - Greetings, Henz
DB train compartments in the 1980s all had that sliding bunk-seat system as well.
Our new Hauptbahnhof looks like some sort of bigger commuter station, i dont like it at all, miss the old Südbahnhof =(
This kind of compartement coaches and seats were common for German ICs and other long distance trains until everything was taken over by the ICEs. Very sad.
@8:50 in this type of car the 4-seat groups have outlets underneath the small tables by the window, but unfortunately not all of the 2-seat rows have them (they were retrofitted in the early 2000s and I guess the construction of the car didn't allow to install sockets easily at every row). But usually it's no problem to ask the person in the row in front of you if you can use their socket and route the cable underneath the seat. :-)
Love those pull-out seats!
*click*.
the man at 8:41: "YES!"
The beautiful Eurocity "Croatia" :)
Can You Go to germany (Frankfurt Main Hauptbahnhof ) :)
My ICE review 😁
ruclips.net/video/CMovS5ISXvA/видео.html
Oh my gosh, Thank you :)
Thanks for this very interesting video, I'll be taking the very same train on January 1st so this was really useful to watch. :-) However, being such a big railway fan, you should definitely think about getting a Mondaine watch, it would be a lovely addition to these vids. ;-)
Excellent! Je l'attendais avec impatience
9:41 That was what those spaces were historically used for in British locomotive hauled trains.
Silent Hunter what about? Didn't see anything
C'est un régal tes vidéos !
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That looks pretty amazing
Good video! I think if SBB and ÖBB will fuse together, it will be the best railway company in Europe. How do you think about that?😌
de treinreiziger Nope, SBB is the best railway company in Europe... without ÖBB
Agree
I think there'd be some kind of nationality issues, what with the two being the national railways of Switzerland and Austria respectively, but a joint operation would definitely be a great idea!
@@russellgxy2905 they have a joint operation.
Hello from Croatia! Did you make a video from Zagreb to Belgrade? I'd love to see how you reviewed Croatian Railways :)
I did, it's an upcoming video, stay tuned ;)
I realy engoe in this video. The train is naice, and very confortable. 😀🚂🚃
Love watching these videos fascinating to watch
they used to run these coaches within austria too where they now use the railjets, I liked the old ones better
U should try any talgo or euromed service on the Mediterranean line of spain
As you are French, it's a pity you didn't film any of the Slovenian Class 363 Alstom "Nez Casses" locomotives, which are a direct derivative of the famous CC 6500. We also call them "Brižita" after Brigitte Bardot. I think one of them is pulling the freight train at 11:16.
And...This about the investitions in our railways is a joke, or? These are essential works to keep trains running.
Hey man, I didn't stop in Slovenia so filming class 363 was impossible despite the fact that I love this machine. Then I'm agree with you but some countries like France don't invest in their tracks since decade.
@@SimplyRailway there were none parked along the route? :) pity that the "Croatia" wasn't hauled by one of them, it happens quite often.
Hmm please don't compare out rails with France. We are currently investing into the Spielfeld - Zidani Most line to be capable of holding the 22,5 t axle load, that practically means that the Taurus will finally be able to run on this line (and this is the main line in Slovenia!). The speeds are low, around 80 km/h, probably it would be a little better now when we finally decided to invest in railways (20 years too late...), but it won't go over 120 km/h.
As I have travelled in France, we never ran under 160 km/h on classic lines.
@@markoobid2005
Well, speed limits varies depending, on the course of the rail line. You are mixing average speed with top speed. Trains can run up to 160 km/h (which is more then enough for a smaller country) on some sections (Maribor - Pragersko, Celje - Grobelno, Ljubljana - Zalog, Hodoš - Pragersko). I agree, 2 hours for a journey between Maribor and Ljubljana (156 km) is too long. Ongoing modernization projects will cut this time.
Nice!
Beautiful engine 😁
Excellent video as always
Simply Railways, does the nighttrain to Split wait at Zagreb if the Eurocity is delayed? Because im not sure if its possible to do this journey otherwise (Wien - Zagreb - Split)
I don´t know about procedures on Croatian Railways, but a standard practice by Slovenian Railways is, that (if your train has delay) you can ask the conductor to call and order the other train to wait (obviously, this applies only if the delay isn´t too high)
I would actually like the video much more if you'd narrate your text yourself instead of using subs. The subs just detract from the video :).
Still, nice trip. I lived in Austria before moving back to germany. And the landscape is just amazing!
Very very very good video and sound ! Great!
Greetings from Zagreb / Croatia
Great Video! Love trains in Europe but can you film the Melbourne to Sydney XPT In first class thanks
🤣😅 Pay me the airplane ticket from CDG to SYD and I'll do the trip report with pleasure
Simply Railway 😂 it’s ok 👍🏼
Please define - “non-automotive” stock...
Not a multiple unit.
Some of your printed comments do not stay posted long enough! I enjoy watching your trips. I took a week long trip on Russian RR trans Siberia x/p Moscow-Vladivostok double track electric. Lake Baikal was the best of trip.
Just love your train videos. I notice we caught a glimpse of you - I would very much appreciate knowing what type of gimbal you have attached to your cell phone?
In the Bulgarian BDZ these compartments are 1st class
U should check out the NEW nightjet design from öbb 😁
Excuse me, some countries have 8 seats per compartment? That's too much in my opinion as well. So crammed then I feel like
Patrick Hamhuis i prefer open seating , kinda awkward if you and group in compartment
Please drive one time with the ICE 3 and do a review of it.
My ICE review 😁
ruclips.net/video/CMovS5ISXvA/видео.html
Cool video! I live in Slovenia!
You should see the PKP coaches and seats are more luxury then obb and cd
8:22 - this are the same seats as in TGV-Atlantique trainsets,
Not quite the same, as these seats were introduced in the early 90s and the Atlantique is quite new. But I sure was glad to see that they are moving away from individual seats back to this design. It is also more secure, as I've heard that people were robbed by someone sitting behind them. The gap between the individual seats is ideal for a casual grab in a purse. Check out the newest design of ÖBB bench seats!
www.priestmangoode.com/project/new-intercity-and-nightjet/
I think the U. S. terminology for what you refer to as "automotive" and "non-automotive" coaches would be "self-propelled" and "locomotive-hauled".
La locomotive Slovène en réalité n'est pas très "Europe de l'Est" puisque le design provient du groupe Suédois ASEA. Ce modèle je pense a été fabriqué sous licence par l'entreprise Končar, qui était une entreprise Yougoslave et basée à Zagreb et qui existe encore aujourd'hui. Autrement, très bon reportage.
Non!
(I can't speak French, so I will tell in English.) The Slovenian locomotive is Class 342 "Moped/Mofa" built in Ansaldo/Officine Mechanice Pistoiesi (Italy) around 1970. It runs on 3 kV DC.
The ASEA/Končar locomotives are running under 25 kV 50 Hz in Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Macedonia and Romania.
AntenneQC: No that is wrong, Marko is correct. You are thinking of Yugoslav JŽ class 441 (Croatian HŽ class 1141 nowadays). These were built for 25 kV AC and are licensed Swedish Rc2s. The northern part of former Yugoslavia including Slovenia (in earlier times also to Zagreb), however, is electrified with 3 kV DC as the network has Italian roots. So, this class 342 "Moped" was built by Ansaldo in Italy.
A trip report from me this summer where you can see both engines:
www.railforums.co.uk/threads/regional-rail-express-15-adria-istria-i-bosnia-herzegovina-50-p.192484
@@ronik24 nope for the 3 kv dc, northern croatia was always the ac system, i remember it, it was the old austria who has the legacy here after all, the suthern part of croatia did have the italian system tho as slovenia did, not sure why also for the entire country.
But for croatia, some half way to rijeka, in the station moravice was the system and loco exchange in the old yu days, croatia later changed that part as the majority was already on the ac.
0:52-North American rail companies (Amtrak & VIA Rail) should do the same thing.
some captions are fine but some disappear all too quickly. this tends to add pressure for the viewers as they can't tell before hand which way it is going to turn out. cause many viewers to miss the visual content as well.
The problem with the shops in a railway station is that they are more expensive just like in an airport! If you travel on a budget then you can*t afford much there! :)
Next time maybe PKP INTERCITY in Poland? Trip is very comfortable in new carriages
Is there an option of buying meals/snacks on train?
Amo troppo i tuoi video
The Best trains are with compartments
Great video, very interesting and enjoyable. But you should show yourself on camera more and let us get to know you and your personality 😀
Beautiful railway journey.....
In budapest are trains you never saw and will never see if you dont go there
Train journey
10:09 Oddly enough, that's an Italian design built for Yugoslavia: europeantraction.com/sz-class-342/
The former Yugoslavia also has quite a few licence-built American and French designs.
None of the electric locomotives of Italian or French design were built in Yugoslavia, they were all imported and many of them are still in service. This goes for Slovenia which is the only of the former republic powered by italian 3000V system, which was introduced in 1930s on the line between Postojna and Sežana when that part of Slovenia belonged to Italy, and was later extended to the whole network. But yes, some diesels were licence-built after American design,
Beautiful station in Vienna and then you came to Zagreb and see that ugly old station. Oh how many times i traveled from that station and ask myself, when the hell will they demolish that and build new one, larger and better. Well, that wont happen hehe. We have one of worst railways system in Europe (in Croatia). It almost never go on time, and always is late to destination. We have plenty of such coaches but most of them are old, overally bad.
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Est ce que tu vas faire un trip report dans un train railjet
Non je n'ai pas eu la chance
Love these videos