Good job. the one thing you did miss while greasing which is very important is the jack shat bearing. under the secondary clutch you will see your speedo cable going in and right beside it there's a grease nipple to grease the bearing. If you speedo stops working is usually caused by lack of grease in this area. Hope this helps, and I wish everyone a safe and fun season.
That's a nice list you've put together here in this video. This kind of stuff can potentially prevent a breakdown on trails and nobody wants that to happen. I've been really fortunate with my 2000 MXZ 700. I've had it for 5 seasons and have never had a breakdown. If you take good care of the sled and do the things that you mentioned in this video it really goes a long way. Too many guys just hop on and go and then have problems on the trial where it's either irreparable or inconvenient to deal with and ruins the ride. I put together a similar video a few years back and of coarse there's always something more that can be done and people will mention that, but doing something is still better than nothing. Great vid!
Thanks. I'm so anxious to ride it and I don't even have it yet and we still need snow. Trails don't even open here until just before Christmas. If we had the snow in Old Forge I'd go there since their trails open a week earlier, but they don't have any snow yet either. It'll be here before we know it. Hopefully just in time to ride.
Some great tips there. So many people ignore the simple things that will keep the sled looking and running like new. Silicone lube/ Armourall is an excellent way to keep all the rubber and plastic parts from aging.It should be sprayed on the track and idler wheels to.
Great video, that's good preventative maintenance. I love these vids. Added:your a great teacher. I'm keeping an eye out for a good Formula Z 583😁 I want for a good heavy-duty powerful reliable logging sled.
Thanks Mark. I have to admit, I haven't been as diligent as I should have been, so putting together the video was a great excuse to get out there and do it. The spring is usually long and wet and muddy and I have kind of just put it away and pulled out the boats. I know some of the more mechanically inclined do a lot more than this but I'm not quite up for pulling my clutches apart. Maybe in the summer.
Hello sir.. hope all is well. Quick question for you please... My sled when idling makes a clicking, clank type noise from clutch are, but when you give it gas it goes away...? Any idea or ideas of what that could be?? Would greatly appreciate your thoughts... Thank you
Thanks for the tips. We live in Tn and yes own a snowmobile (Polaris Edge 600) We get about 4-5 good snows a year so we don’t ride it very often. We really don’t know anything about it other than it’s a blast to ride and all our friends show up when it snows. We bought it 10 or 12 years ago at a equipment auction in Indiana. It had 1600 miles on it and we paid $1500 for it. Not sure if that was a deal or not. It has never given a minutes trouble and it now has almost 1900 miles. We always run Polaris synthetic oil,do little greasing and alway drain the fuel out of the carbs and tank every spring check the chain grease. We keep is stored indoors all year and it’s still looks really nice. Any other things we should be doing to keep it running for many more years. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Some good tips here. Some other things to check are brake pads and fluid. Also I'd suggest you open the air box and check for any debris you don't want getting sucked into the engine. More important if you store your machine outside like I do (mouse nest). Check fuel and vent lines for cracks and going brittle as well. I like to add a shot class full of methyl hydrate/gas line antifreeze to my first fill up to help burn off any accumulated moisture in the tank and I run about half a tank through it before i change my fuel and oil filters. I find it gets any sediment from sitting up into the filter before i change it.
You're a great teacher Dave ! Never even thought about adding Silcone Lube on my hoses ! I'll make sure to do that ! We got snow on the ground but not enough for sledding... Plus the weather channal is announcing tons of rain this week... Great video !
+doobyboy21 Thanks DB. Just sharing tips other riders have share with me. I think the 303 Aerospace spray I used on the seat is supposed to be good for the hoses too. I think oil based products should be avoided. I saw your video. Too early for riding, but I can't blame you for a taking it out for a little rip :)
great video. I just changed the track on our old Polaris so it's good for the season. I will make sure to thoroughly look over my sled. thanks keep up the great videos
+yeezus Hey Yeezus. Thanks, glad you enjoy them. The industry moves fast, so I didn't find a lot on the older sleds. I think if I shelled out big bucks for a new sled, I'd leave it to the professionals, but with an older one, it's kinda fun to roll up my sleeves and tinker. Keep watching and I'll keep makin em. Hopefully some riding ones soon :)
Thanks Mark - very informative and a excellent presentation for seasonal maintenance!!! I noticed the temporary shed that you have. What is the brand and how many seasons have you used it? What are your impressions and ideas for it's use. Thanks Ira
Nice channel I just picked up a 96 artic cat 440z with only 1000km on it just needed plugs and fresh gas I cleaned the carbs as well now it’s like new again
Hey thanks for putting these together - I'm new to the sled world so this is a great introduction to basic maintenance and keeping me safe on (and off!) the trails.
Taking off the belt and cleaning it with soap and water helps. Also change your spark plug boots about every 3 years. The resistor spring inside gets worn out and you will lose rpm's over time. Very inexpensive also. Most of them you just in screw off and screw a new one on.
Are you going too do an after season checklist? How you should leave your sled till next season and all that. Love your vids, keep up the awesome work!
+The Swedish Dude With Snowmobile Hey SDWS! Thanks for the comment, yes I was planning to. Glad you're enjoying them. Drop by the Facebook page and share a pic of your classic sled. Facebook.com/MyOldSled
I plan to let my sled (1997 MXZ 440F) sit the summer with a full tank of non-oxy with sea foam in the gas with a little oil in the gas as well. What say you about that?
Keep up the great content! I bought a 99 Mach 1 700 Triple this fall and want to dial in the suspension as the man I bought it off was heavier than me and had the suspension setup stiff as most of his riding was on the ice. Hope you can help me out
My sled (2016 Skidoo Summit X) only has 2 grease zerks on the rear suspension... what about all the other moving pivots/bushings - should I take those apart, clean, and grease them? What about front suspension bushings?
Wont hurt, though i have read that when you grease a bushing it can make it more difficult to tell when its getting worn. Cleaning any moving part is always a good idea.
Great video! I would just suggest that when you have he belt off that you use some sand paper and sand the clutches. if the clutches get to polished the the belt will slip rather then catch. Just something I do every year and always makes a difference. Thanks
+Mike Mckowen Hi Mike. Thanks! I personally don't sand mine but I know a few guys who do and say it makes a difference. I have used a red scotch bright pad. What I recommended in the video was what was recommended by the shop. The only way to really sand it evenly is with a lathe or with it running, and I can't advise anyone to do that for safety reasons. If I did feel I needed to resurface them, it would be very carefully and I would want to clean it well - off of the sled. I would be concerned about grit getting into the clutch and into bushings- would want to disassemble blow it out and clean it well. I am by no means saying you are wrong. I'm just very cautious about what I recommend in my videos. I have visions of people sanding their clutch into a nice egg shape and cursing me :) Thanks for watching, and for sharing your experience. (Shameless plug) Check out my Facebook page wwwfacebook.com/MyOldSled for Bruce Peninsula snow reports and other blog updates.
Hi again,hey was anyone mentioning that you run your track on the tight side. i also do some drag racing every season,if its performance your after,run it loose as possible,on the edge of ratcheting,then tighten abit. The book says 1 inch to 1 1/4 with 10pounds attached in the middle ,but take it from a racer,thats waaaaaayyyyy too tight.Just a heads up.
Hi Joe. The '97 skidoo service manual indicates 45 to 50 mm (1-25/32 to 1-31/32 in) when exerting a downward pull of 7.3 kg (16 lb) so my track is actually slightly loose. I totally appreciate you taking the time to share your experience, but I always follow manufacturers specs. The only reason I would deviate would be if I was using the machine for something other than its intended use. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks Dave .. very nice review of what to look for.. Can you keep me in mind for when you want to sell your sled.. You have keep it pristine.. Looks like new!!! :)
@@MyOldSledHi Dave.. I am in the Rochester NY area (US - Finger Lakes Region). We have a great trail system, just not much snow. Trails have only been open once so far this year - and that was for a 48 hr period. I have an older Polaris two-up..
Hi Sled. Funny you should mention this, another subscriber mentioned it as well. I do not have a grease fitting near my speedo cable. I am going to replace the secondary, and when I do, I will have a better look. I don't see any mention of one there in the service manual either.
Hey Dave, Great video and awesome looking sled you have there. You treat a sled the way it should be treated, and you will get lots of trouble free enjoyment. How many km/miles do you have on this one?
+My Old Sled That is pretty good milage there, My son has a 98 Summit x 670 in real good shape but the crank seized on it. Do you know if it is worth it to fix it or just put a whole new motor in it?
+owenlonghorn To be honest, I don't. I am not a mechanic, I just like to tinker with the sled. Basically, anything can be fixed if you know how and you can get the parts. These two stroke motors are pretty simple. I guess it depends on a few things. How mechanically inclined are you? Do you have a good space to work and the tools? Can you find the parts you need? Can you find a decent engine? I think if it was me, I'd probably fix it, but if I found a decent used motor cheap or a running sled cheap, i might swap it out, and then rebuild my old motor and keep it as a spare. You quite often see used motors on ebay, and prices vary a lot. You can also pick up a Crankshaft rebuild kit, and there's one on ebay right now for $289.
I kinda disagree Dave with blasting the water directly on the greased components ,i know its hard not too , but your blasting away grease too.I realize you greased it afterwards,but just something to keep in mind when your just washing it.
@@MyOldSled yeah but everyone on doo talk is wrong? that cant be ,,i always do what the majority do,a factory skidoo mechanic thats an elite doo member for tech service he says its not ok,,so i take that as its not ok,,,juss saying,,i can send you the link if you want it? i also learned this from SOUTH TEXAS BANSHEE all his 4 wheelers are the same,,he says not to use high pressure washer around linkages as it gets into the bearing surfaces this guys also a licenced mechanic,,listen to want he says about using high pressure washer it makes total sense ruclips.net/video/bkcBR5xooq8/видео.html
Hi Joe. I'm not totally disagreeing with you. Its not the worst idea not to use a power washer at all and any time you do use one you need to be careful. I learned that the hard way when I took the decals off my bike windshield. Its a good idea to make sure your not hitting things too hard, or too close, or forcing water into an area it wouldn't normally get into. I go over those areas quickly a from above, keeping the nozzle a few inches away, just enough to knock off loose debris that settles on the top and I make sure everything re-greased. I go across the top of the ball joint, I don't get right in close and blast inside. I watched the video you mentioned (thanks) and I agree with his comment, "fly over them, don't get too close and inject water into bearings"... You can also force dirt and road salt into bearings and seals if you're not careful.
I’m going to do a new video on that at the end of the season. A lot of the tips in this video can be done at the end of the season, combined with the one I did in my fuel treatment video.
I believe it’s called a secondary clutch spreader, or belt change tool. I think the one for my sled comes as part of a kit, I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen it listed solo.
Good job.
the one thing you did miss while greasing which is very important is the jack shat bearing.
under the secondary clutch you will see your speedo cable going in and right beside it there's a grease nipple to grease the bearing. If you speedo stops working is usually caused by lack of grease in this area. Hope this helps, and I wish everyone a safe and fun season.
Yea l was going to also remind the Jack shaft bearing.
That's a nice list you've put together here in this video. This kind of stuff can potentially prevent a breakdown on trails and nobody wants that to happen. I've been really fortunate with my 2000 MXZ 700. I've had it for 5 seasons and have never had a breakdown. If you take good care of the sled and do the things that you mentioned in this video it really goes a long way. Too many guys just hop on and go and then have problems on the trial where it's either irreparable or inconvenient to deal with and ruins the ride. I put together a similar video a few years back and of coarse there's always something more that can be done and people will mention that, but doing something is still better than nothing. Great vid!
+paisteboy Thanks PB. Love your new ride.
Thanks. I'm so anxious to ride it and I don't even have it yet and we still need snow. Trails don't even open here until just before Christmas. If we had the snow in Old Forge I'd go there since their trails open a week earlier, but they don't have any snow yet either. It'll be here before we know it. Hopefully just in time to ride.
Some great tips there. So many people ignore the simple things that will keep the sled looking and running like new. Silicone lube/ Armourall is an excellent way to keep all the rubber and plastic parts from aging.It should be sprayed on the track and idler wheels to.
Great video, that's good preventative maintenance. I love these vids. Added:your a great teacher.
I'm keeping an eye out for a good Formula Z 583😁 I want for a good heavy-duty powerful reliable logging sled.
Thanks Mark. I have to admit, I haven't been as diligent as I should have been, so putting together the video was a great excuse to get out there and do it. The spring is usually long and wet and muddy and I have kind of just put it away and pulled out the boats. I know some of the more mechanically inclined do a lot more than this but I'm not quite up for pulling my clutches apart. Maybe in the summer.
Hello sir.. hope all is well. Quick question for you please... My sled when idling makes a clicking, clank type noise from clutch are, but when you give it gas it goes away...? Any idea or ideas of what that could be?? Would greatly appreciate your thoughts... Thank you
Thanks for the tips. We live in Tn and yes own a snowmobile (Polaris Edge 600) We get about 4-5 good snows a year so we don’t ride it very often. We really don’t know anything about it other than it’s a blast to ride and all our friends show up when it snows. We bought it 10 or 12 years ago at a equipment auction in Indiana. It had 1600 miles on it and we paid $1500 for it. Not sure if that was a deal or not. It has never given a minutes trouble and it now has almost 1900 miles. We always run Polaris synthetic oil,do little greasing and alway drain the fuel out of the carbs and tank every spring check the chain grease. We keep is stored indoors all year and it’s still looks really nice. Any other things we should be doing to keep it running for many more years. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Sounds like the things I’d do. Sounds like a good deal. Hope u get lots of snow
Some good tips here. Some other things to check are brake pads and fluid. Also I'd suggest you open the air box and check for any debris you don't want getting sucked into the engine. More important if you store your machine outside like I do (mouse nest). Check fuel and vent lines for cracks and going brittle as well. I like to add a shot class full of methyl hydrate/gas line antifreeze to my first fill up to help burn off any accumulated moisture in the tank and I run about half a tank through it before i change my fuel and oil filters. I find it gets any sediment from sitting up into the filter before i change it.
You're a great teacher Dave ! Never even thought about adding Silcone Lube on my hoses ! I'll make sure to do that ! We got snow on the ground but not enough for sledding... Plus the weather channal is announcing tons of rain this week... Great video !
+doobyboy21 Thanks DB. Just sharing tips other riders have share with me. I think the 303 Aerospace spray I used on the seat is supposed to be good for the hoses too. I think oil based products should be avoided. I saw your video. Too early for riding, but I can't blame you for a taking it out for a little rip :)
great video. I just changed the track on our old Polaris so it's good for the season. I will make sure to thoroughly look over my sled. thanks keep up the great videos
+yeezus Hey Yeezus. Thanks, glad you enjoy them. The industry moves fast, so I didn't find a lot on the older sleds. I think if I shelled out big bucks for a new sled, I'd leave it to the professionals, but with an older one, it's kinda fun to roll up my sleeves and tinker. Keep watching and I'll keep makin em. Hopefully some riding ones soon :)
Thanks Mark - very informative and a excellent presentation for seasonal maintenance!!! I noticed the temporary shed that you have. What is the brand and how many seasons have you used it? What are your impressions and ideas for it's use. Thanks Ira
Who’s Mark? ;) if you check my other videos, I did one covering them, pros and cons.
Nice channel I just picked up a 96 artic cat 440z with only 1000km on it just needed plugs and fresh gas I cleaned the carbs as well now it’s like new again
Yep a lot of times a little basic maintenance goes a long way.
Hey thanks for putting these together - I'm new to the sled world so this is a great introduction to basic maintenance and keeping me safe on (and off!) the trails.
Hey knee deep. Glad you like them. Thanks for taking the time out to visit and to comment.
Good job just like me take care of that Rotax i have a machz 800. Most dependable sleds skidoo all the way
Taking off the belt and cleaning it with soap and water helps. Also change your spark plug boots about every 3 years. The resistor spring inside gets worn out and you will lose rpm's over time. Very inexpensive also. Most of them you just in screw off and screw a new one on.
Hey man, this video is awesome and so is the Chanel! Theses videos are the best for new sleders!
Thank you Ryan. So glad you are enjoying them.
Are you going too do an after season checklist? How you should leave your sled till next season and all that. Love your vids, keep up the awesome work!
+The Swedish Dude With Snowmobile Hey SDWS! Thanks for the comment, yes I was planning to. Glad you're enjoying them. Drop by the Facebook page and share a pic of your classic sled. Facebook.com/MyOldSled
I plan to let my sled (1997 MXZ 440F) sit the summer with a full tank of non-oxy with sea foam in the gas with a little oil in the gas as well. What say you about that?
Keep up the great content! I bought a 99 Mach 1 700 Triple this fall and want to dial in the suspension as the man I bought it off was heavier than me and had the suspension setup stiff as most of his riding was on the ice. Hope you can help me out
I always remove my belt in the spring. I find it forms a "memory" nice video. Brap on
That is right. I do as well. I will capture it in a future video. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Great video! Thanks for sharing. I'm in Southampton, so I must be close to you..... I use Colborne's as well.
Not far. :) thanks for watching.
My sled (2016 Skidoo Summit X) only has 2 grease zerks on the rear suspension... what about all the other moving pivots/bushings - should I take those apart, clean, and grease them? What about front suspension bushings?
Wont hurt, though i have read that when you grease a bushing it can make it more difficult to tell when its getting worn. Cleaning any moving part is always a good idea.
Great video! I would just suggest that when you have he belt off that you use some sand paper and sand the clutches. if the clutches get to polished the the belt will slip rather then catch. Just something I do every year and always makes a difference.
Thanks
+Mike Mckowen Hi Mike. Thanks! I personally don't sand mine but I know a few guys who do and say it makes a difference. I have used a red scotch bright pad. What I recommended in the video was what was recommended by the shop. The only way to really sand it evenly is with a lathe or with it running, and I can't advise anyone to do that for safety reasons. If I did feel I needed to resurface them, it would be very carefully and I would want to clean it well - off of the sled. I would be concerned about grit getting into the clutch and into bushings- would want to disassemble blow it out and clean it well. I am by no means saying you are wrong. I'm just very cautious about what I recommend in my videos. I have visions of people sanding their clutch into a nice egg shape and cursing me :) Thanks for watching, and for sharing your experience. (Shameless plug) Check out my Facebook page wwwfacebook.com/MyOldSled for Bruce Peninsula snow reports and other blog updates.
What size grit sandpaper u use
Really dont advise sand paper. Red scotch bright.
Hi again,hey was anyone mentioning that you run your track on the tight side.
i also do some drag racing every season,if its performance your after,run it loose as possible,on the edge of ratcheting,then tighten abit. The book says 1 inch to 1 1/4 with 10pounds attached in the middle ,but take it from a racer,thats waaaaaayyyyy too tight.Just a heads up.
Hi Joe. The '97 skidoo service manual indicates 45 to 50 mm (1-25/32 to 1-31/32 in) when exerting a downward pull of 7.3 kg (16 lb) so my track is actually slightly loose. I totally appreciate you taking the time to share your experience, but I always follow manufacturers specs. The only reason I would deviate would be if I was using the machine for something other than its intended use. Thanks for the comment.
How do you keep mice out of your sled drier sheets are not working ?
I’ve heard mothballs. I’ve never had an issue
thanks, it was very helpful
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Thanks Dave .. very nice review of what to look for.. Can you keep me in mind for when you want to sell your sled.. You have keep it pristine.. Looks like new!!! :)
I was planning to sell it, but I ended up keeping it. I was riding it today. Where about s are you?
@@MyOldSledHi Dave.. I am in the Rochester NY area (US - Finger Lakes Region). We have a great trail system, just not much snow. Trails have only been open once so far this year - and that was for a 48 hr period. I have an older Polaris two-up..
Dave you didn't add the OEM rubber caps on your Bogey wheels ?
+doobyboy21 I just picked a set up for all of them.
Hello. was wondering if your sled has a grease insert on where the speedometer cable goes into? Below the secondary clutch? Thanks. love the videos
Hi Sled. Funny you should mention this, another subscriber mentioned it as well. I do not have a grease fitting near my speedo cable. I am going to replace the secondary, and when I do, I will have a better look. I don't see any mention of one there in the service manual either.
Dave you check out my new(er) sled?? Its a nice MXZ X package 2012 800etec
Hey Dave, Great video and awesome looking sled you have there. You treat a sled the way it should be treated, and you will get lots of trouble free enjoyment. How many km/miles do you have on this one?
+owenlonghorn Thanks Owen. The chassis has just over 8000, engine rebuild a few hundred k ago.
+My Old Sled That is pretty good milage there, My son has a 98 Summit x 670 in real good shape but the crank seized on it. Do you know if it is worth it to fix it or just put a whole new motor in it?
+owenlonghorn To be honest, I don't. I am not a mechanic, I just like to tinker with the sled. Basically, anything can be fixed if you know how and you can get the parts. These two stroke motors are pretty simple. I guess it depends on a few things. How mechanically inclined are you? Do you have a good space to work and the tools? Can you find the parts you need? Can you find a decent engine? I think if it was me, I'd probably fix it, but if I found a decent used motor cheap or a running sled cheap, i might swap it out, and then rebuild my old motor and keep it as a spare. You quite often see used motors on ebay, and prices vary a lot. You can also pick up a Crankshaft rebuild kit, and there's one on ebay right now for $289.
+My Old Sled Thanks for the advice , I think I will fix it.
Hey Owen, any update? Did you fix your son's Summit?
I kinda disagree Dave with blasting the water directly on the greased components ,i know its hard not too , but your blasting away grease too.I realize you greased it afterwards,but just something to keep in mind when your just washing it.
Hi Joe...I kinda disagree with your disagreement. Dirt and grit get trapped in the grease and become abrasive. I want to blast that away.
@@MyOldSled yeah but everyone on doo talk is wrong? that cant be ,,i always do what the majority do,a factory skidoo mechanic thats an elite doo member for tech service he says its not ok,,so i take that as its not ok,,,juss saying,,i can send you the link if you want it? i also learned this from SOUTH TEXAS BANSHEE all his 4 wheelers are the same,,he says not to use high pressure washer around linkages as it gets into the bearing surfaces this guys also a licenced mechanic,,listen to want he says about using high pressure washer it makes total sense ruclips.net/video/bkcBR5xooq8/видео.html
Hi Joe. I'm not totally disagreeing with you. Its not the worst idea not to use a power washer at all and any time you do use one you need to be careful. I learned that the hard way when I took the decals off my bike windshield.
Its a good idea to make sure your not hitting things too hard, or too close, or forcing water into an area it wouldn't normally get into. I go over those areas quickly a from above, keeping the nozzle a few inches away, just enough to knock off loose debris that settles on the top and I make sure everything re-greased. I go across the top of the ball joint, I don't get right in close and blast inside.
I watched the video you mentioned (thanks) and I agree with his comment, "fly over them, don't get too close and inject water into bearings"... You can also force dirt and road salt into bearings and seals if you're not careful.
Just wondering if you will have a video for end of season storage
I’m going to do a new video on that at the end of the season. A lot of the tips in this video can be done at the end of the season, combined with the one I did in my fuel treatment video.
Wow you are quick at replying, even at this hour thank you
Least I can do when you take the time to watch and comment.
Whats the name of that "clutch tool" that spreads the clutch plates please?
I believe it’s called a secondary clutch spreader, or belt change tool. I think the one for my sled comes as part of a kit, I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen it listed solo.
what year is your sled
+Craig Armstromg 1997
Get a etec
My sled still runs great, I'm having a lot of fun with it...but who knows, nothing lasts forever.
Thanks for posting.
My Old Sled how many kms do you have on there? Did you have your crank bearings re-greased?
I follow the engine lubrication schedule in the service/shop manual. The bearings are lubricated by the injector oil.
My Old Sled Have you heard of isoflex bearings
Yes but not on the old rotary valve engines. Need something specific?