That final scene is a shocker, right?😳 Bobbi is one of the best damn military characters in sci fi. She's so commanding and confident that everyone listens when she speaks in her calm, sorta amused voice. PERFECT casting.
"You have until our mechanic gets back" is my favourite line from this episode. Imagine how that situation gets resolved if Amos walks in before Bobby😮😂
@@garethneller8239 That's a good one, but I think I slightly prefer "What kind of ship _is_ this‽" They were rescued by a stolen Marian frigate that recently forced its way through a Martian blockade to escape Ganymede, crewed by a Martian, two Belters, and two Earthers, one of whom accidentally became a Belter folk hero, and their passengers are a Martian Marine defector and the third most powerful member of the Earth government.
That exactly what I went through 🤣 I remember being appalled at how (seemingly easy) he left Julie to her fate, but they got me feeling like he as still human for a moment. Until he realized there would be results then he's right back to what I thought before.
He does have a conscience. It's just that it is way too easily overridden when he sees a different goal before him. He allowed it to decide his actions up to that point primarily because he considered the experiment a failure. The moment he started to think that there IS a way to continue, all other considerations went out of the window. Which probably makes the whole thing even worse than if he simply felt nothing.
I think he has a conscience, but also a God complex. He thinks the protomolecule and its creators are an existential threat to the human race, and he's convinced that only he is smart enough to deal with the threat! (And if he's in charge, he gets to stay rich.) Part of him doesn't want to hurt kids, but another part of him thinks that saving humanity is more important. So he gets to tell himself he's the good guy either way! It's not so much a lack of conscience as it is a really messed up and egotistical analysis of what the "right thing" to do is!
"Hey, turns out these bioweapons that are supposed to be completely under our control are still communicating with the rest of the protomolecule. That's fantastic!" Yeah, not sure you really thought that one through.
Notice, that the "bioweapons" is the goal of their political backing, but Mao himself sees a far bigger picture. Bioweapons he can sell to others are cool, but finding out how protomolecule works and how to "direct" it would be even better. He truly seems to think his research is about the future of the human race, and he is quite condescending towards his "shortsighted" backers that only think about how to weaponize this stuff to get ahead in the arms race. In a way he did think this through, it's just in his eyes the reward justified the risk taken (and sacrifices made).
Because of the lower gravity on Mars, Earthers are generally much stronger than Martians. Holden's also ex-UN Navy, he's been trained to fight hand-to-hand. He was thus able to subdue the Martian relatively easily.
The two actors who played the young Martians in this episode were main characters in the second half of a show called 'Killjoys'. Its another space show, which started out rough but got really, really good towards the end. Worth a watch.
they're both in that set of actors that will inevitably pop up at some point in any show that films in or near Toronto if it goes on long enough. one of Souther's lieutenants was also on Killjoys at the beginning
oh look the proto molecule has started talking, asking questions and having a look around, understanding how 'people' work. we're at the end of the intro.
Such a fun episode. Love how everything went down and Amos asking if he missed it. LOL. Then the meeting with the Ensign and Avasarala. Gold. Watching Drummer salvage the Navoo was cool too.
I find it weird that Alex and Gunny voice concern about stripping ammo off the wreckage of ships lost. What about the need to maintain military readiness? As long as any human remains are treated with respect why would military personnel see this as an issue? Curious what others think... am I wrong?
Thing is the wreck is seen as a war grave, And taking the ammunition is like looting a mass grave, There's a parallel in today's world, Some world war 2 warship wrecks, sunk in action with the loss of nearly all the ships company and designated as war graves, Have been salvaged for the metal. By a certain far east nation which doesn't respect internationally accepted customs regarding such wrecks, It has stired up some personal & international resentment..
@@SnaFubar_24 I think it makes sense in a modern complex (and to frame events for the audience), but I've always felt like it doesn't make sense in the cultural context of the story. This is a Martian culture that emphasizes self-sacrifice for the good of the whole. We know technology has provided corpse recyclers, and I would be absolutely shocked if Mars wasn't using them to produce a soil base. I can't believe they would have contemporary attitudes about disturbing the dead. This, to me, is a story element designed to appeal to the audience, not to be true to the setting.
@@adamwells9352 I don't entirely disagree with you, but I can also see an in-universe reason for the discrepancy. Corpse recyclers benefit all of society, looting destroyed ships for ammo only benefits themselves. I doubt that Martians would have a problem with the Martian government retrieving lost ships to be recycled or re-used in more MCRN ships or repairing domes and whatnot. And, sure, it could easily be argued that their mission to shut down any protomolecule research benefits all of humanity, but that's an intellectual argument, it would still _feel_ selfish to do it, and selfishness is antithetical to Martian culture (the perceived selfishness of people on Basic Assistance is the main thing they bring up when mentioning their dislike of Earthers).
I swer these few episdoes with Wes Chatham strutting around in that tight jumpsuit, and the scene with it pulled down around his hips.... if I hadnt known I was queer before, that would have cemented it. That man provokes a true mindless animal lust response in me like no one in many years. That beard has a lot to do with it as well. 🥵🥵
I really enjoyed your reaction to one of my favorite TV shows, but if you make parts of it available only for members, that just makes me stop watching your channel...
Glad you enjoy the reactions. Rest assured The Expanse will continue releasing one to two episodes each week depending on my schedule. Nothing will be kept back for members only, but they do get the episodes early. Being ahead helps me avoid spoilers and gives me plenty of time to navigate any copyright issues that arise.
That final scene is a shocker, right?😳
Bobbi is one of the best damn military characters in sci fi.
She's so commanding and confident that everyone listens when she speaks in her calm, sorta amused voice.
PERFECT casting.
"You have until our mechanic gets back" is my favourite line from this episode.
Imagine how that situation gets resolved if Amos walks in before Bobby😮😂
@@garethneller8239 That's a good one, but I think I slightly prefer "What kind of ship _is_ this‽"
They were rescued by a stolen Marian frigate that recently forced its way through a Martian blockade to escape Ganymede, crewed by a Martian, two Belters, and two Earthers, one of whom accidentally became a Belter folk hero, and their passengers are a Martian Marine defector and the third most powerful member of the Earth government.
I love how they make people think that Mao has the tiniest sliver of conscience and then they're like nah, he's terrible
That exactly what I went through 🤣 I remember being appalled at how (seemingly easy) he left Julie to her fate, but they got me feeling like he as still human for a moment. Until he realized there would be results then he's right back to what I thought before.
I think we're seeing why Julie Map had to get as far away from her father as possible.
He does have a conscience. It's just that it is way too easily overridden when he sees a different goal before him. He allowed it to decide his actions up to that point primarily because he considered the experiment a failure. The moment he started to think that there IS a way to continue, all other considerations went out of the window. Which probably makes the whole thing even worse than if he simply felt nothing.
I think he has a conscience, but also a God complex. He thinks the protomolecule and its creators are an existential threat to the human race, and he's convinced that only he is smart enough to deal with the threat! (And if he's in charge, he gets to stay rich.) Part of him doesn't want to hurt kids, but another part of him thinks that saving humanity is more important. So he gets to tell himself he's the good guy either way! It's not so much a lack of conscience as it is a really messed up and egotistical analysis of what the "right thing" to do is!
THREE salvage missions: The Roci crew salvaging what remains of their family.
"Hey, turns out these bioweapons that are supposed to be completely under our control are still communicating with the rest of the protomolecule. That's fantastic!" Yeah, not sure you really thought that one through.
Notice, that the "bioweapons" is the goal of their political backing, but Mao himself sees a far bigger picture. Bioweapons he can sell to others are cool, but finding out how protomolecule works and how to "direct" it would be even better. He truly seems to think his research is about the future of the human race, and he is quite condescending towards his "shortsighted" backers that only think about how to weaponize this stuff to get ahead in the arms race. In a way he did think this through, it's just in his eyes the reward justified the risk taken (and sacrifices made).
Because of the lower gravity on Mars, Earthers are generally much stronger than Martians. Holden's also ex-UN Navy, he's been trained to fight hand-to-hand. He was thus able to subdue the Martian relatively easily.
And he's changed since his encounter with Miller and the Mercenary in that Jingo parlor.
The two actors who played the young Martians in this episode were main characters in the second half of a show called 'Killjoys'. Its another space show, which started out rough but got really, really good towards the end. Worth a watch.
ooh sounds fun!
@@CasualNerdReactions it is
they're both in that set of actors that will inevitably pop up at some point in any show that films in or near Toronto if it goes on long enough. one of Souther's lieutenants was also on Killjoys at the beginning
I tried Killjoys because it was made by the same people as Dark Matter. Couldn't get into it.
@@ReddwarfIV Yeah, Dark Matter was better.
oh look the proto molecule has started talking, asking questions and having a look around, understanding how 'people' work.
we're at the end of the intro.
19:39 it was the nurse that mei saw go in there with him
“Disassembly reveals useful pathways”
What else have we seen “disassembled”?
The protomolecule sees reality as a CAD program. "I don't understand how this is working, let's switch to exploded diagram view. Oh, I see now."
Such a fun episode. Love how everything went down and Amos asking if he missed it. LOL. Then the meeting with the Ensign and Avasarala. Gold. Watching Drummer salvage the Navoo was cool too.
Next couple of episodes are some of the best television I've seen. 3x6 is my favorite episode of tv bar none.
All caught up after a binge watch of the early access videos. Now I have to be patient again!
Truly the worst part of binging anything 😭
Loved your reaction to this excellent episode.
And I can't wait to see how you feel about the rest of this season!
Bobbie gets all the best lines
And sandwiches.
The entire series summed up in a single line 15:44
I find it weird that Alex and Gunny voice concern about stripping ammo off the wreckage of ships lost. What about the need to maintain military readiness? As long as any human remains are treated with respect why would military personnel see this as an issue? Curious what others think... am I wrong?
Thing is the wreck is seen as a war grave, And taking the ammunition is like looting a mass grave, There's a parallel in today's world, Some world war 2 warship wrecks, sunk in action with the loss of nearly all the ships company and designated as war graves, Have been salvaged for the metal. By a certain far east nation which doesn't respect internationally accepted customs regarding such wrecks, It has stired up some personal & international resentment..
@Markus117d yeah thanks that was an angle I wasn't thinking about. Makes a lot more sense now
@@SnaFubar_24 I think it makes sense in a modern complex (and to frame events for the audience), but I've always felt like it doesn't make sense in the cultural context of the story. This is a Martian culture that emphasizes self-sacrifice for the good of the whole. We know technology has provided corpse recyclers, and I would be absolutely shocked if Mars wasn't using them to produce a soil base. I can't believe they would have contemporary attitudes about disturbing the dead. This, to me, is a story element designed to appeal to the audience, not to be true to the setting.
@@adamwells9352 I don't entirely disagree with you, but I can also see an in-universe reason for the discrepancy. Corpse recyclers benefit all of society, looting destroyed ships for ammo only benefits themselves. I doubt that Martians would have a problem with the Martian government retrieving lost ships to be recycled or re-used in more MCRN ships or repairing domes and whatnot. And, sure, it could easily be argued that their mission to shut down any protomolecule research benefits all of humanity, but that's an intellectual argument, it would still _feel_ selfish to do it, and selfishness is antithetical to Martian culture (the perceived selfishness of people on Basic Assistance is the main thing they bring up when mentioning their dislike of Earthers).
@@StarkRG all good points.
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I swer these few episdoes with Wes Chatham strutting around in that tight jumpsuit, and the scene with it pulled down around his hips.... if I hadnt known I was queer before, that would have cemented it. That man provokes a true mindless animal lust response in me like no one in many years. That beard has a lot to do with it as well. 🥵🥵
any episode with both amos and bobbie in it is a treat for bisexuals, let me tell you
I really enjoyed your reaction to one of my favorite TV shows, but if you make parts of it available only for members, that just makes me stop watching your channel...
Glad you enjoy the reactions. Rest assured The Expanse will continue releasing one to two episodes each week depending on my schedule. Nothing will be kept back for members only, but they do get the episodes early. Being ahead helps me avoid spoilers and gives me plenty of time to navigate any copyright issues that arise.