I realized after watching the episode my Vegas is not the same Vegas because of the whole microprocessors not being a thing. So the location could be very askew and not look like the Vegas I know.
Yeah, lol... and likely a good chunk of it collapsed due to damage/disrepair from/after the war. But I think even for players of New Vegas, the layout might be SLIGHTLY different than it was in-game (maybe some shit went down between that game and the show, guess we'll find out in Season 2!). And yeah, I live in southern California, and the mountains seemed off to me too cause I'm used to driving down into the valley on the I5, lol. Also, you're playing Fallout Shelter? LOL! What's your vault's experiment? (My vault is 17, cause it's a "lucky number" for me, and it's also close to Vault 13 and 15, which are the very first two vaults you learn about in the Fallout series) :D
New Vegas was the setting for the game before Fallout 4 (and I'm guessing the setting for at least some of season 2). Not spoiling anything but I think as a person familiar with Las Vegas you'll spend quite a bit recognizing things in New Vegas. They may have got the mountains wrong but I'm fairly certain it's one and the same.
In the Fallout New Vegas game they took care to get the cartography as right as they could in a game but it is scaled down of course for the game so you don't have to spend hours walking playing the game, but real places like Goodsprings and Primm are there. This scaling down does move the mountains much closer to the city. I can only assume in the show they copied the game as closely as they could as Jonathon Nolan is a big fallout game fan. We will see better in season 2 likely.
@sathanas420 dude, I'm not talking about looting. I'm talking about in every super duper mart. There's some horrible crap going down every time you step into one.
I played some of Fallout 3 and put in hundreds of hours into Fallout 4 which was a great game.i like that the LA was a story set in the universe and not specifically based on Fallout game. The story was so well done and loved you never had to play the game to enjoy the story. I didn’t see the twist coming. It was sad with Lucy’s mom because Lucy did have a memory as a child of feeling the sun but thought she was in the vaults.
When Maximus and Lucy are in vault 4, having some food at a table in the common area, Lucy mentions that when she was a little kid, she actually thought the sun was in the sky and not just a projection on the vault wall. It sounds like a little throw away line but she actually was outside, in Shady Sands with her mother and that warmth was the actual sun in the sky. She was just too young to remember any of it clearly. Also I love the little foreshadowing with Bud Askin driving up in his little car. He trades in a little car with a glass dome, for a brain on a roomba.
They put in seemingly throwaway lines throughout the season. "Look at you, clean hair, nice teeth, all ten fingers." The Chicken Lover offering potions to cure feet--to The Target when Lucy is leading the Wilzig with a prosthetic foot away from The Ghoul to Muldaver. Many reactors who had not seen the trailer or the credits recognized the Ghoul only because Cooper told his daughter that if the really Big Bombs fell then they were "Cowpokes, we take it as it comes."
This show has so many incredible throwbacks like that. Like when Lucy said her father would be mortified if she destroyed an entire society (Vault 4) to save him. No, he wouldn't. >_
Not to be picky, but Lucy actually says the line to Maximus about the sun in the previous episode while they are walking on the railroad tracks, not long before they meet the Fiends. Not that it matters in the slightest, it is still a great line that hooks up nicely with the big reveal at the end. ☀
It actually makes me wonder if the projector was installed after Hank brought them back, in order to be able to explain away any memories they had retained. That is just devious enough to work perfectly and make perfect sense.
In new vegas the game starts in goodsprings NV, you start the long journey to the strip from there. The real-life goodsprings now has a convention every few years for fallout fans!
I took Cooper's line 'You're me, just give it some time' to be him speaking from a morality standpoint and not about ghoulification. He was once idealistic and acting from what he considers to be a principled position but the years in the Wasteland have eroded his morals and he expects the same to happen to Lucy.
It's also why she says 'I may end up looking like you, but I'll never be like you'. Which is literally addressing the ghoul/bad guy answer to his statement.
Has to be that. The way I gather, it is rare for someone to become a ghoul and the exact conditions required don't seem to be known. So it is a behavioural change that he expects from her.
15:00 "This is so dark." All of the ideas mentioned at the table are real vaults from the games. "War never changes" is also a quote that the narrator says in every game.
I appreciate the subtle ties to the stories in the games. Like the "water chip" failing in vault 33 was a callback to the starting plot point in Fallout 1 which drives the player as a Vault Dweller to venture out into the wasteland in search of a replacement.
@@troikas3353 I’m wondering if the ‘figure’ they show up top overseeing the meeting at Vault Tec or ‘the man in charge’ may be revealed to be Ron Pearlman as some sort of higher up CEO for Vault Tec. Especially considering after coops wife looks up and sees him, she does the speech with the ‘war never changes’ line.
@@michaelshigetani433 It would be interesting if his daughter is an adult now and ends up being an antagonist or something that he either has to fight or find a way to save.
@@APBRadial Oh yeah. In fact I think you're so spot on that this comment of yours almost seems like a spoiler despite the fact that it can't possibly be one, given that following seasons haven't even been shot yet, lol! At any rate, I firmly believe we will see his daughter again, and not only as a flashback. Possibly his wife too.
10:52 see, Angela's big braindedness strikes again! Before I can even head to the comments to remind her that he was the Ghoul that thanked Lucy for freeing him, she connects the dots herself. She's watching like 5 shows right now and still manages to stay *that* on top of everything. She's so rad. Also THIS was the finale reaction I was waiting for, all across RUclips. Did not disappoint. You have a gift, Angela.
I love Lucy’s cold and solemn “okie dokie” with the dark foreboding music in the background being her last line of the season. You should definitely play Fallout New Vegas before season 2.
Really curious where her character will go and whether she can uphold the golden rule in all of this. Cooper went through a couple hundred years of this mess, the worst of it was probably the beginning of the end too, while Lucy is just up there for a few weeks. "The wasteland sucks."
The irony of Hank nuking Shady Sands is that the core of it was founded by Vault 15. But a different vault with different objectives and a century or two of seperation.
Did he? ... Oh yeah the woman who killed many without a remorse told so... Definatey it was a nuke that caused a nuclear explosion at a location where a nuclear physicists were trying to start her 200 year ol cold fusion idea, a nuclear reactor, with scarce resources. Or maybe stole back her old machine that was bought by Vault Tex 200 years ago, tried to start it without a password and..... She would blame Vault Tec for it.
Vault-Tec as an entity makes little to no sense if you think about it for more than a moment. This is a mega-corporation with a complete stranglehold on the modern world. They have governments in their pocket, they have the resources to buy out entire tech research sectors like cold fusion, and they have access to nuclear warheads. So a corporation with this much power, is supposedly going to surrender all that power they have, just so they are the only people who *potentially* still have power hundreds of years in the future? If they by some miracle somehow survive the nuclear armagedon they are trying to unleash? Also Vault-Tec outsourced their own vaults to other corporations, so now in this potential world future, they will have more direct competition than they have already.
Just goes to show how flawed corporate logic and be, Vault Tec wanted to eliminate all factions by only having people from their vaults survive the war but then they out source their vaults to other corporation who created vaults with different goals and philosophys thereby creating differing factions.
So when those execs were listing off hypothetical valut experiments, they are all real vaults you can find in the games. "We could overcrowd a Vault so people have to compete to survive inside it." - Vault 27 "We have been developing a robot to deliver milk, it's quite intelligent. I would like to see a Vault governed by it." - Vault 7 "What about using a Vault to develop a Super-Mutant soldier using illegal immigrants?" - Vault 87 "We could pump psychoactive drugs into the air supply." - Vault 106 "We could separate parents and children." - Vault 29
When coop first talks to Bud at the commercial after party he talks about the war, bud was a salesman for the power armor and coop said it got a lot of men killed, so they setup him knowing the flaws well.
He also refers to himself as a Marine in EP1, and in EP2 talks about basic training and Maximus not reading the manual. As always with this show, the clues are there for the viewing, just not waved in your face.
There IS a reason why the topography around New Vegas is so drastically different, but that would be going into spoilers. I'm glad you enjoyed the show!
Actually its not the cartography around New Vegas was all based off the real thing, they took pains to do this, but they had to scale the distances down between things for the game, hence why mountains being closer than irl.
@@janetd5121 yeah , unfortunately Todd hate vegas so hard you can expect everythign reworked from scratch to " prove" us he can do it better than some obsidian :D
@@alanea5860 Utter nonsense. Todd Howard does not hate New Vegas and Bethesda has confirmed the game is cannon and the show changes nothing that happened in the game. All the major events happening in show happen after the game. Even in New Vegas the narrative of the NCR is it was overstretched and in decline. That started with the first battle of hoover dam in...2077. I love New Vegas as well but there is sub-section of fans with this insane belief Bethesda hates it and they never present any proof, only claims they cannot prove. The guys who made New Vegas have repeatedly said their relationship was good with Bethesda. Hate to burst your bubble too but here are facts as well, Fallout 3 not only got higher review scores at the time, it has still to date sold more copies than New Vegas. Fallout 4 has sold more than double either New Vegas or Fallout 3.
@@janetd5121 Todd Howard has literally said that he dislikes the non-Bethesda lore. That's, IMO, one of the main reasons he had them nuke Shady Sands in the show, 'destroying the past' both in the show world and in the metaphorical sense of sweeping the original lore off the board.
Pre-bombs falling Cooper wore the T-45 version of Power Armor during his time as a marine fighting "the reds" in Alaska. The Brotherhood of Steel in the show wear the T-60 version.
@@viperswhipyeah that only makes sense if he just wanted to have fun with the fight, (Maximus was unarmed at the time so he probably didn’t see as big a threat) otherwise it’s just plot armor for Maximus
@@viperswhip Are you referring to the Ghoul vs BoS fight at the end and the reveal of the armor defect and why didn't the Ghoul just kill Max in Filly? I understood it this way...when he is talking to the BoS and about to shoot them, the camera is focusing in on his bullet, which has a spiked tipped shaped. The ones he used on the towns folk of Filly opening up big holes in their bodies has a rounded tip. So different types of bullets. I figure the director focused in on the bullet to explain why the Ghoul didn't just kill Max originally. That this spiked shaped bullet was armor piercing and specifically for use against the PA units and not a bullet he used in Filly, thus the reason Max was able to survive because the Ghoul wasn't expecting a fight with a PA unit but was when he snuck into the Observatory.
@@viperswhip he loaded some special ammo when talking , ( some weird heavy kinetic penetrator) instead normal shell Meanwhile in town he couldnt know who charge in + its possible he prepared such ammo after learning Brotherhood wants head
@viperswhip Titus' armor also had a special mod, tempered lining. In the game, it increases protection. The Ghoul probably saw that it covered the weakness in the factory model.
The Vegas area is very compressed in the game. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to walk across the entire map in an hour. So the mountains might have been moved a little closer to town, for gameplay reasons. Just accept that this is an alternate universe that operates on videogame logic. 😄
@TE-LE-GRAM-funnylilgalreacts5 You are approached by a frenzied scientist, who yells, "I'm going to put my quantum harmonizer in your photonic resonation chamber!" What's your response? Edit: aww, the bot got deleted -_-
14:12 Yay, you got that they were cryotubes immediately! I've seen some people struggle to understand that, even after seeing the young version of Hank, and his cryotube.
It helps that Fallout is probably the most well written and flushed out video game IP ever. I think most game adaptations fail because the games they are based on are very linear.
@@theheatinferno8420Helpful tip: “Fleshed out” is a term for added detailed and “flushed out” is a term for having forced someone to leave their position of refuge. Argumentative opinion: Final Fantasy has been progressively granular and obsessively world-building for decades. I haven’t played Fallout but when I think of fleshed-out game settings, Final Fantasy is at the forefront of my mind.
@@Dark__Thoughts For the most part, though they started to remix old elements in later games. But it’s kind of my point. They created whole ecosystems, histories, mythologies, storylines, and character details time and time again, over and beyond other game IPs (which didn’t have originating IPs from elsewhere). It just became expected you’d have that kind of attention to detail with each new version, and it pushed the bar higher for other RPG game franchises.
@@AngeloBarovierSD To me this just feels inconsistent and lazy, Zelda does a similar thing and I don't understand why people think that's a good thing. It's like they cannot think of anything new but also don't want to follow a coherent world building.
Girl, you got me crying when you started crying. What a genuine reaction. I've enjoyed watching this show with you. I hope you'll do the next season when it comes out. Really enjoy your content!
Hey, remember in the first episode when they dug up the Ghoul, they brought a chicken? Cause apparently feral ghouls go nuts for chickens. Now think about the snake oil salesman who "cured" Thaddeus and what he's known for. The clues were there all along. Our resident quack is one of them.
It has been my opinion that Maximus joined the Brotherhood after a Knight saved him, then over the years had become disillusioned with how things were transpiring. When you see his face at the final scene when Dane was holding his arm, you see that disillusionment torn by the need for revenge of what happened to Shady Sands. Moldaver was a scientist and probably had connections for a private Cryo-tube. It wasn't in you cut of this video, but if you watch Barb when the meeting devolves into arguments, she gets a message on her Pipboy, looks up to a shadowy figure watching down on the meeting, then she takes over. Back an episode or so Miss Williams (aka Moldaver) told Cooper that she was on the verge of creating Cold Fusion when his wife's division bought up every company that she (Williams/Moldaver) ever worked for. Therefore, it is my belief that Barb was much further up the chain of command in Vault-Tec, possibly a senior executive or even a division head.
Moldaver was also rich. I'm sure there was a bunch of ways influential people had access to cryo tubes. They also reveal her in the same episode as when they show the pods in vault 4 so I feel that's an intentional narrative hint.
24:40 Unfair. Maximus gets through these positions thanks to his own merit. When Dane screws him over (unintentionally) it’s his fervor that convinces the cleric to let him live/be Titus’ squire. He gets the armor because he’s (apparently surprisingly) a good shot and put down a Yao Guai on 2 shots. Rescues his armor because he’s an endurance Beast. Gets rescued from his armor because he saved (he does that a lot)the girl with the big eyes in Filly. Even when he was brought to his execution, he was saved because he had cultivated a good relationship with Dane and got the location of Moldaver from Lucy. Any fortune Max received, was because he had sowed the seeds for success (even inadvertently) earlier So yes, as the only BOS member who braved the front line and made it to the finish line, he deserved the promotion.
Someone explained to her before that Maximus has the _Idiot Savant_ perk. A perk that works based on luck, and the lower your intelligence is the better xD And I kind of agree with you: the _Idiot Savant_ perk on his own can't do everything. Heck, even the things he earns thanks to the perk still belongs to him: it is a talent he owns.
its popular theory but wrong as long as they keep up atleast little with lore, super mutants also bleed even if fully transformed. Super mutants heal only little faster than human, they dont posses crazy healing abilities of ghouls nor heal as result of radiation.
Yes. You don't become a ghoul via some serum (neither do you have to take serums to prevent becoming feral). So this really points to the genome modification to be made a super mutant.
@@maksphoto78 while supermutants have faster regeneration , they stilll require weeks to heal wounds and cant regenerate missign or severely damage parts thats why fallout universe contain many mutants who are scarred , burned , or missing limb / eye this theory would be lore wise nonsense because FEV wouldnt fix his leg on other side ghouls can tdo this but only when exposed to radiation ( but who knows how radiactive that cure was)
@@alanea5860 Sure, but how many supermutants have we seen RIGHT AFTER they got their FEV? How many had it injected right into their system rather than being bathed in it. It wouldn't be nonsense, it just sidesteps what we know to get around the hurdles. I hope Pemberton (Thaddeus) gets to play a supermutant IF they can take enough care with the animation to make him look at least as believable as Hulk.
@@DavidWright1138 hundreds Master was creating supermutants all the time but it doesnt matter , as i say mutants dont get significant regeneration ... thats simply not goal of FEV ... thaddeus inhaled liquid = same thing would hgappoen to person thrown in fev tank
The way all of the plot threads come together for that insane final act is some of the best TV show writing I've seen in years. Been waiting all season for your reaction to the finale and it didn't disappoint!
6:43 Ghouls absolutely do form from radiation. It’s not the only way but it definitely is how people turn to ghouls. In the Fallout lore an entire vault became ghouls because the main gate wasn’t closed all the way.
@@alanea5860 Yes I already said it’s not the only way. In Fallout 4 Hancock says he was turned ghoul from taking a drug. There might have been someone else in game but I don’t remember his name.
@Retrovorious Harold from the first few games (i.e. F1-F3, but not Tactics) became a ghoul or something akin to one -- depending on one's opinion of how we define "ghoul" -- by getting exposed to FEV prior to the first game. It's probably more accurate to call him an FEB mutant and not a ghoul -- especially if you take his additional mutations in F2 and F3 into account (no other ghouls have been seen sprouting trees from their heads as far as I'm aware).
Cooper wore power armor during the war, before the bombs dropped. When he met Bud Askins for the first time, he mentioned that his design flaws cost a lot of lives.
Vault Tec is the Umbrella Corporation of the Fallout Universe! Bastards! And all those vault experiments they were brainstorming in the meeting did happen in different vaults across the wasteland. We come across some of them in each of the Fallout games. This series was incredible! But it only scratches the surface of how messed up the wasteland is, and it always comes back to Vault-Tec!
I think there is some valditiy to Hank saying "She stopped being your mother when she left home, and took you into danger." Maybe not the first part exactly, but her mom leaving the vault with her Pipboy put the entirety of all three Vaults into danger. She gave the outside world a means to get in there, which is what Muldaver literally did and came in and slaughtered a bunch of innocent people in order to kidnap Hank. It doesnt jusify nuking Shady Sands by any means, but Rose did actually put not just Lucy but the hundreds of people in the Vault at risk by leaving with her Pipboy.
What's even more interesting about the design of the show is that when Cooper is dropping off his wife, Bud shows up and parks next to him. If you really look at his car, he's in a very small black car that has a big dome windscreen/roof where you can only see his head. Then in Vault 31, he's on a very small black conveyance that has a big dome where only his brain is visible. It's such a good bit of design that shows Bud hasn't changed one bit in over 200 years..
It's save to assume, that while Coops wife was ready to have Vault-Tec drop the Bomb if necessary, in the end it wasn't actually them doing it. Assuming that she would have made sure her daughter was in a save spot when it happens and not out doing birthday parties with Coop.
I think what everyone missed is that Hank was middle management. Barb was upper management. She talked about being in a vault that controlled all other vaults. Vault 31 only controls 32 and 33. Hence the reason Hank and Betty were there.
Yep, Barb and daughter are definitely in a special vault which is not 31. Having played the games, and knowing that "happy endings" are few and far between, I fear our main characters endings will be bitter ones.
Yeah, but the fact that Bud is there brings it into question. It's a safe assumption that there's a hierarchy in the order they're released from stasis, leaving upper management for last. I'm not saying you're wrong tho, just playing Devil's Advocate.
@@Lordoftheapes79My belief when it comes to Bud is he either stayed or was ordered to stay to be the one waking up the Middle Management people for the reasons stated in the episode. Or maybe you just said what I said, but I didn't really understand, it all too well (reading comprehension is shot when you have 7th grade level RC). Or something. Which is why he's an RC car with his brain intact and a voice modulator. I don't know. If/when all the Middle people wake up and have some progress with whatever it is they're suppose to be woken up for, then and only then Upper will be woken up to reorganize the country or something. I could be an idiot and is wrong about all of this. Much love and respect.
Barb also mentions securing a place in 'one of the good vaults'. She was aware of the Vault-Tec fuckery from the start. Hell of a day to find out you married Capitalist Hitler.
@@Lordoftheapes79 It would make sense, but it wouldn't be very interesting narratively to figure out that Barb and their daughter was in Vault 31 the entire time. Then again, the ending of the RPG Planescape: Torment happens literally in the room next to the room where the game starts.
Right at the end there, Hank was looking at New Vegas, the settlement built over the ruins of Las Vegas… seen from a distance across the Mojave wasteland.
What i love is that theres an explanation for why the ghoul didnt just defeat maximus immediately as well. The armour he used had tempered lining which made it more durable in the flaw
He probably also hadn't prepared armor piercing rounds for a town shootout. He was using explosive rounds for maximum damage against common, unarmored wastelanders.
15:04 Some of the vaults in the Fallout games are truly dark. I hope we get to see some of the vaults from the games in later seasons. Lots of interesting stories to be told.
I am pretty sure they won't show us any vaults we have already seen in-game, but I do hope we get a freaky new vault or two in coming seasons. Then again, my wish list for the future seasons is pretty long! LOL 🤣
I would say that Bud has awoken all the people in cryo-tubes to clean Vault 32. There are only 2 people in 33 originally from 31 (Betty and Steph) and nobody else could know how it looked originally in Vault 32. And the two of them could not clean all the vault themselves in day or two. So they needed help. So I suppose Bud brought all the Vault Tec staff to help - so they know what is expected of them and what is going on. The ghoul in the observatory was the one who said Hey, thank you when released by Lucy in Super Duper Mart.
Possibly but my assumption she does have a few trusted man, the person who gave the poisoned food through the slid looked like a male torso to me. If so as Betty was making sure the gene pool is safe, and the resources are not spent on the raiders she did what had to be done. Note she didn't blamed Norm. She just acted as was needed.
She HAD to have had help with cleaning up Vault 32. At first, I was like yeah maybe her and Steph could have moved the bodies and cleaned up, but there was also that pile of rubble from the bomb that's been cleaned up. Even Chet had problems moving those, so it's nearly impossible that an old or pregnant lady were able to do that, especially in such a short timeframe.
Thing is we're not certain that Thaddeus is a ghoul. Ghouls aren't usually known for quick healing, just high damage resistance. Some theories are that he's slowly turning into a Super Mutant
When Lucy was convincing Maximus to return the fusion core back at Vault 4 and was theorizing what her father would think if she killed an entire city just to save him...now we know that Hank would have been proud of her.
I think they are using the in-game version of Las Vegas, rather than real life. Fallout: New Vegas was a much beloved game and the landscape we see resembles it a lot.
For one who have played through all Fallout games (including 76 and Shelter), those peeps around the table mean a lot. Through the games we learn about them and their companies. SPOILERS (The people around the table) West-Tek: Leon von Feldon (Fallout and Fallout 3, only in text) RepConn: Julia Masters (Fallout New Vegas, only in text) Big MT: Frederick Sinclair (Fallout New Vegas dlc Sierra Madre, text and you can find his skeleton) Rob-Co: Robert House (Fallout New Vegas main character) The last 2, Barbs and Bud Askins are new additions to the lore.
14:45 All these ideas are vaults in the games btw. 17:31 The raiders form episode 1 were probably also fugitives from Shady Sands and maybe saw all vault dwellers there in 31, 32 and 33 as the evil people who blew up their city. 27:52 Does she hate Cooper? He was kinda fighting with the New California Republic against the Brotherhood there at the end.
The raiders in Vault 33 were damn near feral, and she left them behind and took only a disciplined few of her own with her. It has been pretty widely theorized that the handful of disciplined ones were NCR soldiers that Moldaver brought with, and the rest were hired (and expendable) raiders who were meant to create chaos and a distraction. I mean she leaves ALL of those raiders behind. But yeah, for Moldaver and the few NCR troops she has under her command, Hank (and Vault-Tec) are the enemy, and the Vault dwellers are at best Vault-Tec's human shield and at worst complicit in the destruction of Shady Sands.
@@arthurwigglesby8590 If she had more control over the raiders, she probably would have taken the time to train them more so they could better pretend to be Vault dwellers. If the residents of 33 were a bit less complacent, they should have spotted the deception as soon as it became apparent that the 32ers could not use basic utensils. The raiders might have even been told that once the fighting started, they were on their own and might be left behind. They went anyway because it was going to be the best party of their lives.
I'd guess those Raiders were Khans. They're one of the few raider groups I know of that do mercenary work, and the show takes place in their old territory.
This episode hurts even more after Lucy telling Maximus that her father would be disappointed if she sacrificed a whole community. When he destroyed a whole city just to be petty
He wasn't being petty, he was doing what Vault-Tec had planned all along. Making it so they alone would be the ones to repopulate the planet. Their mistake was overestimating the bombs' effectiveness in wiping out humanity. Shady Sands proved they'd miscalculated, and Hank wanted to "fix" that mistake.
It's been fun watching with you. A couple of thoughts to consider are that some of the vaults that they mention here are not even the worst of the experiments that were run on the residents that you see in the games. Some of them are so unspeakably horrible that it's truly terrifying that someone had to think of it. Also I have a theory that Hank installed the projector that creates the sunny field in the vault after he brought the kids back in order to be able to explain away any memories they had of the outside world.
In episode 1 or 2 the head guy told Lucy she'd have to adapt. But then he asked "will you still want the same things once you've become a different animal all together" I suspect that lucy won't want the vaults anymore... at least I hope so
29:00 Hank didn't want Rose to find out she was right exactly because of Lucy's reaction when she and Maximus found the welcome to Shady Sands sign - repopulating the surface someday was the common goal that kept them all going. Imagine her reaction of 'it happened without us' happening to a whole vault. Why, they might do something crazy like try and overthrow the Overseer, kill each other, or kill themselves.
Loved your emotion when you found out that the ghoul sitting at the table was Lucy's mother, I had the same thing happen to me. I'm really looking forward to Season 2 and your reaction to it. Have a great day lilgal, your the best.
a couple easter eggs easy to miss....in the first scenes of episode 2, there is a gurney being wheeled into one of the labs in the Enclave...with a body underneath some sheets....one hand peeks out, it is extremely dark green, most likely the hand of a 'super mutant'....and in the closing credits of episode 8, in the lower left foreground as the camera zooms out from New Vegas....is the skull of a DEATHCLAW (and everyone thinks the Gulper or the Yaogui that killed Titus was bad)....hints of some creatures to come in season two....
I really enjoyed your reaction to this. You asked all the right questions at the beginning of the finale. It looked to me like Vault 32 was the overcrowding experiment. They somehow found out what Vault 31 was - maybe their Overseer blabbed - but it was too late for the information to help them.
Hank's headed your way! :D And both Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas are perfectly fine introductions to the series, but the majority opinion is that New Vegas has the best gameplay/story of the two. Fallout 4 is also fine (it does have more modern gameplay than the others but isn't as story-strong). I don't think you'll be spoiled by playing New Vegas before season 2 - as a matter of fact it may provide some insight into the influence of the New California Republic prior to the loss of Shady Sands, and more depth on the CEO of RobCo, Robert House (shown in that war room sequence, the guy with the mustache). Also, I'd watch the hell out of one of your playthroughs.
The ghoul that was looking at Lucy when she got to the observatory was definitely one of the ones she rescued from the Super Duper Mart. In fact, he was the one who stopped to say "Thank you" before leaving
I've been watching your reactions, for I don't know how long, and I never realized you lived in vegas like me. That's pretty cool. I've been in vegas for 11 years. I love it here.
What a fun ride this has been watching you watch my favorite series to come out in a long time. I am a huge fan of the Fallout games and they did a beautiful job. Also, watching you cry made me cry all over again so thank you for that 🔥❤️✌️
As an Australian, I definitely had no idea the mountains were wrong 😆 The city part felt a dead ringer for the New Vegas game. The main games (creatively named Fallout 1, 2, 3, and 4) all have you as a different Vaultie in different areas explorong the surface for andifferent reason - so no real crossovers with Season 1. Heading to New Vegas will be different because they may have to commit to one of the possible, and very different, endings for that game. I am so very keen for Season 2, and subsequently your reactions to it.
The idea of bud's roomba is sound. Slow is the way to go if you want something to last 2-3 hundred or more years, the faster you move a object the more wear and tear the object has. There is also a saying...something about "being fast is being slow in a hurry".
It’s crazy because I’ve watched the season twice and I never noticed that was Betty. Also, I remember Lucy saying when she was with her mom she said it felt like it was really the “sun”
Great ending to a great story. Fun Facts! The code input by Hank. 101097 is the date the first video Fallout game was released. All the evil things the CEOs around the table were talking about doing with their Vaults. These are actual experiments the players will find in the vaults they explore throughout the Fallout game series. The show used actual Brotherhood of Steel power armor. Not CGI. Ella Purnell broke so many of her Pip Boy props that the showrunners would not allow her to get anywhere near the Power Armor costumes they had made. That is the landscape of New Vegas from the Fallout New Vegas game. The Stratosphere is the Lucky 38 casino which is the final resting place of Robert House. One of the CEOs in the Vault-Tec discussion room. This show occurs 9 years after the Second Battle of Hoover Dam in the Fallout New Vegas game. (Which I am currently playing) One hell of a good story.
Hi Angela, I'd like to fill in some blanks for you now that there's no spoilers. 1) New Vegas IS what was Las Vegas, but in the game the scale of the map is compressed, so too in the show. All the same landmarks, just a lot closer than in reality. Players wouldn't want to walk for real-world weeks just to get from Vegas to Hoover Dam or Nellis AFB. ;) 2) 32 was invaded by Moldaver because Hank took Lucy and abandoned Rose on the surface. And Moldaver used Rose's Pip-Boy to get into 32, told the residents what 31 was really up to, and they went mad. 3) If you think Vault-Tec was dark in the show, the games are far more dark by far. Every vault was an experiment of one sort or another. 4) Bud's job was to keep tabs on what all the vaults were doing, collecting and collating the data so when people like Betty, Hank, and Stephanie woke up, they could be briefed with where their plan stood. That was the point of the "Bud's Buds" project Bud was babbling on about in the parking lot. 5) While it's not explicitly stated, Cooper served in the Army prior to the bombs dropping. From game lore, there were resource wars chiefly between the US and China, as the oil reserves dried up and everyone got desperate. Another reason Vault-Tec tried to bury cold fusion. 6) And if you decide to play the Fallout games I recommend playing on Very Easy so you can concentrate on the story rather than combat. Especially Fallout 4 because once you start to learn more about the games, the more little easter eggs you'll see in the game. From the weapons on the wall in Filly, to the magazine the guy's reading as Lucy enters Filly. SOOOOO many easter eggs you could make hours of content on that alone. (And people are.)
There are a lot of interesting Easter Eggs and such scattered throughout the series. My number one takeaway the first time I watched it, however, wasn't anything of that sort. My read on the final episode was "Maximus and Lucy both got exactly what they wanted, but they changed so much over the course of the show, that neither of them wants it anymore." Maximus started out as a young aspirant who, more than anything else, wanted to be a Knight, a hero of the Brotherhood, and so he is. Lucy wanted to find her father and figure out the truth about what was behind the attack on her home. She succeeded in acheiving both of those objectives. Despite these successes, I think we can safely say that " and they lived happily ever after" isn't exactly the conclusion we have reached.
You actually end up seeing the aftermath of many of the Vault experiments mentioned by the board in the games. In fact pretty much all of them. I reference to Vault 32, I think if we put some of the information together we're shown and told about in the Vault we can piece together what happened there to some degree. -When we first meet Lucy she is applying to be married so she can participate in the triennial trade with Vault 32, so we know they trade once every three years. -When Lucy first meets her supposed husband Hank mentions about Vault 32's blight situation. -When we see Chet sitting down to eat we get a shot of his plate where it's a few slices of cooked Cram and then a corn medley and traditional salad, so we know the Vault Dwellers mostly eat from their crops. -Then when Norm goes into Vault 32 he realizes the last bio signs from the Pip-Boy readings show two years ago. So it seems that Vault 31 last traded with 32 three years ago, a year later they had a blight on the crop so the Overseer of 32 was able to convey that to Hank. At which point they are apparently prohibited from interacting with each other so 32 is left on their own. They have no crops, probably eat their way through their remaining canned food stores and begin to turn on each other. Since we now know that the Overseer of 32 was someone from Pre-War times he probably either tried to go back to 31 or at the very least spilled the beans about the experiment. This causes the Vault 32 inhabitants to tie him to his Overseer chair and kill him. They then end up turning on each other or ending themselves. Moldaver has Rose's Pip-Boy and needs a Vault-Tec manager. She probably realizes from Rose that they can't get into 31 and 33 has Hank, so 32 is the entry point. They find everyone dead and begin communication with Hank for the upcoming trade. Could be different order intended on these events but that seemed to make the most sense to me.
Wild theory, Vault Girl: we know Cooper was the Vault Boy, the inspiration. What if Steph was the original Vault Girl? Blonde, looks like a model or actress, we know she is from Vault 31 so she lived before the bombs fell. They needed a female for the advertisements too. If so she might even know Cooper, the actor, before the war. Definately room for her character, and for Chet to free Norm.... Betty and Steph aren't that evil. They knew their DNA pool can't be mixed with raiders. And not enough resources. But they never blamed Norm for the poisoning. Nor Betty acted against Norm other then separated him from Chet. They are all one family.... (Bud's Bud family lol)
They didn't blame Norm for the poisoning 'yet'. Based on what he said at the meeting combined with being 'demoted' to feeding the prisoners, everyone probably assumes he did it. It's a good way to siphon away his credibility if he gets out of 31 and tries to reveal 'the truth'.
@@gork8468 i had the impression the younger female guard was looked at who got the cake earlier. She was saying she didn't do it. We must admit they had the power and means to blame him, lock him up even execute him for it. This shows their approach. Of course they are hiding things but could be way way worse
I love the table council with a revealed confirmation for the video game players (not the bombs part, though that is a confirmation on who started the bombings) but specifically Robco guy is neat
You mentioned how appropriate "We Three" was at the end of the episode. The three in the song are "my echo, my shadow, and I". I think they've even set this up, so the ghoul is the "I" in the song. Dogmeat (404) is his shadow. Lucy is his echo - " I'm you sweetheart, give it some time".
I very much enjoyed your Fallout reaction videos. Regarding what happened in vault 32, I think Norm and Chet found the aftermath of a mutiny against the overseer and vault 31. I think the bodies hanging outside the overseer's office were mutineers hung by the overseer's supporters after Conflict Resolution 101 failed and the overseer moved on to Vault-Tec Resolution 201 (murder and intimidation). It backfired and generated more support for the mutiny. In the end, the overseer either triggered a failsafe (deadman switch) or it was triggered automatically when the mutineers tried to break through the door to 31. Fast-acting nerve gas flooded the whole vault killing everyone on both sides of the conflict. Other commenters have interesting suggestions about what might have triggered the mutiny. Norm has time to explore what there is of vault 31 and maybe come up with a plan to escape. I am hoping he can engage RoomBud in conversation since Bud liked to talk. Maybe Norm (and we) can learn more about the tri-vault setup and the rules that govern it. Does RoomBud know what happened in vault 32? Why didn't Hank know what happened in vault 32? I am particularly looking forward to the dynamic between Lucy and Coop. She's now actually travelling with someone who can tell her about the last 200 years. Will she realize that she grew up watching his movies? Will she call him Coop, Mr. Howard or Ghoul? She'd probably think calling him Ghoul is disrespectful. Will she learn that his new trigger finger used to be her finger? Will he open up to her and tell her about his family? So much potential there.
Loved your reaction to this season! I love the games, so for me it was an amazing show mixed Easter egg hunt, and the way I SQUEALED when the camera panned up and Hank was heading to New Vegas… I’m SO EXCITED. But also, as others have said, there IS a reason the topography looks weird around Vegas that Fallout: New Vegas explains
It'll be interesting to see what they consider canon from the game. Will Mr. House be alive? Who won the battle at Hoover Dam? I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS
Also, I looked at the end credits of an episode yesterday, and saw the name Moises Arias. I did not recognize him at all as Lucy's brother, because I first saw him as a little boy on Hannah Montana.
25:45 The mountain ranges may be in the wrong spot, probably because the gameplay maps for Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 3 (Washington DC), Fallout 4 (Boston) and Fallout 76 (West Virginia) tend to condense existing landmarks and topography. Believe me, I've been to both Boston and Washington DC and in both locations the distance between landmarks has been shortened considerably.
All of the vaults described in the meeting exist in one of the games. : ) It's heavy hinted that Rose and Moldavor were more than friends (keeping her around, holding her hand after, the flashbacks where Moldavor is with Rose and her kids in the background, etc). Hank might have burned Shady Sands more out of jealousy than anything.
Shout out for you to pointing out Betty in the past! I've watched the show and other reactors multiple times and you nailed it! I had no idea until now. You should DEFINITELY give Westworld a watch. Made by the same company. Similar vibes and twists! However it got canceled.
All of the Vaults you hear about in that meeting, those are vaults you can find in the games. The one where they mutate people into super mutants is in either 3 or New Vegas. The one where they pump drugs into the air is in 4 I believe.
Now that everything has happened I can finally say this! In episode 5, when Norm asks Betty what happened to his moms pip-boy, and she say's "I buried her myself. Me, and your father" becomes SOOOOO much darker. Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas are the best of the games
Good job catching on, better that a few other "reactors." Remember, the Fallout series of games are an 'alternate history' for the world; it assumes that transistors were never developed, that nuclear power development continued and was infiltrated into all aspects of society (without solving the problems of how to handle the waste), and that there was a general cavalier attitude towards radiation in general. It also assumes that the primary enemy of the U.S. was a mythical Sino Asian society (aka China) and the 'cold war' of this world was a) not so cold, and b) eventually led to bombs being dropped. This series has expanded the story with new elements, e.g. that Vault Tek had a hand in dropping the bombs or enticing them to be dropped. What is NOT new is that each vault was a 'social experiment' of one kind or another; that was established by the games. Season 2 of this series has the potential to be really great. It will have to work hard to be as good at wrapping up threads as season 1 was. Episode 8 is just the best, speaking as a Fallout gamer fan.
I had Vault 319 running on my phone for the longest time lol. but it was basically just for when I was killing time somewhere, and now it doesn't load on that old phone lol.
They did such a great job of doling out just enough info and exposition without making any of the reveals obvious, so when the truth is revealed, it hits like a train. Lucy really did remember feeling the actual sun. Her comment about "if my dad found out i destroyed a society to save him, it would break him." UGH only to find out that is exactly what her dad did to punish her mom. I lived in Vegas for 15 years, including when Fallout: New Vegas came out. I spent so much time wandering around trying to find little hints of real world locations, tracking down approximate spots I lived/worked etc lol. *Sends you big hugs cuz I knew these reveals would start a waterfall of tears*
I've been a fan of the Fallout franchise since Fallout 2 came out (I missed fallout 1 and had to go backwards to play that) and have played almost every game set in that universe that has come out (Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel I skipped because it was a console game and Fallout 76 I skipped because it's essentially an MMO). I love this show. Although not a perfect translation from game to screen, it did a fantastic job with what it did carry over. I have minor qualms with some of what they left out and changed, but the fact that they chose basically four unique, interwoven stories with fantastic actors, great special effects and what seems to be a solid grasp of the Fallout universe really makes up for any shortcomings in my eyes. I can't believe we're likely to wait upwards of two years for the second season. I can't bloody wait!
I realized after watching the episode my Vegas is not the same Vegas because of the whole microprocessors not being a thing. So the location could be very askew and not look like the Vegas I know.
Yeah, lol... and likely a good chunk of it collapsed due to damage/disrepair from/after the war. But I think even for players of New Vegas, the layout might be SLIGHTLY different than it was in-game (maybe some shit went down between that game and the show, guess we'll find out in Season 2!). And yeah, I live in southern California, and the mountains seemed off to me too cause I'm used to driving down into the valley on the I5, lol.
Also, you're playing Fallout Shelter? LOL! What's your vault's experiment? (My vault is 17, cause it's a "lucky number" for me, and it's also close to Vault 13 and 15, which are the very first two vaults you learn about in the Fallout series) :D
New Vegas was the setting for the game before Fallout 4 (and I'm guessing the setting for at least some of season 2). Not spoiling anything but I think as a person familiar with Las Vegas you'll spend quite a bit recognizing things in New Vegas. They may have got the mountains wrong but I'm fairly certain it's one and the same.
I wonder if its accurate to the games where mountain ranges are commonly added to be impassible map boundaries.
In the Fallout New Vegas game they took care to get the cartography as right as they could in a game but it is scaled down of course for the game so you don't have to spend hours walking playing the game, but real places like Goodsprings and Primm are there. This scaling down does move the mountains much closer to the city. I can only assume in the show they copied the game as closely as they could as Jonathon Nolan is a big fallout game fan. We will see better in season 2 likely.
If I remember correctly microprocessors do exist, they just didn’t catch on. Kind of like dvd versus divx.
One episode ago: "My dad would never forgive me if I destroyed an entire community."
This episode: Ruh roh, Raggy!
Well, happens in episode 1 as well
🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
Poor Goosey. 😭
The ghoul that recognized Lucy was the one that thanked her, when she released them at the Super Duper Mart.
Man, nothing good ever happens at a super duper mart.
@@deadhead8323wym? Nothing but good lootin, was in super duper mart, best first stop in fallout 3
@sathanas420 dude, I'm not talking about looting. I'm talking about in every super duper mart. There's some horrible crap going down every time you step into one.
@deadhead8323 your argument also adds to your original comment lol. If a place has good loot then.... probably nothing good happened there
I played some of Fallout 3 and put in hundreds of hours into Fallout 4 which was a great game.i like that the LA was a story set in the universe and not specifically based on Fallout game. The story was so well done and loved you never had to play the game to enjoy the story. I didn’t see the twist coming. It was sad with Lucy’s mom because Lucy did have a memory as a child of feeling the sun but thought she was in the vaults.
When Maximus and Lucy are in vault 4, having some food at a table in the common area, Lucy mentions that when she was a little kid, she actually thought the sun was in the sky and not just a projection on the vault wall. It sounds like a little throw away line but she actually was outside, in Shady Sands with her mother and that warmth was the actual sun in the sky. She was just too young to remember any of it clearly.
Also I love the little foreshadowing with Bud Askin driving up in his little car. He trades in a little car with a glass dome, for a brain on a roomba.
They put in seemingly throwaway lines throughout the season.
"Look at you, clean hair, nice teeth, all ten fingers."
The Chicken Lover offering potions to cure feet--to The Target when Lucy is leading the Wilzig with a prosthetic foot away from The Ghoul to Muldaver.
Many reactors who had not seen the trailer or the credits recognized the Ghoul only because Cooper told his daughter that if the really Big Bombs fell then they were "Cowpokes, we take it as it comes."
I would say there are very few throwaway lines in this show. It was very well thought out.
This show has so many incredible throwbacks like that.
Like when Lucy said her father would be mortified if she destroyed an entire society (Vault 4) to save him.
No, he wouldn't. >_
Not to be picky, but Lucy actually says the line to Maximus about the sun in the previous episode while they are walking on the railroad tracks, not long before they meet the Fiends. Not that it matters in the slightest, it is still a great line that hooks up nicely with the big reveal at the end. ☀
It actually makes me wonder if the projector was installed after Hank brought them back, in order to be able to explain away any memories they had retained.
That is just devious enough to work perfectly and make perfect sense.
In new vegas the game starts in goodsprings NV, you start the long journey to the strip from there. The real-life goodsprings now has a convention every few years for fallout fans!
I took Cooper's line 'You're me, just give it some time' to be him speaking from a morality standpoint and not about ghoulification. He was once idealistic and acting from what he considers to be a principled position but the years in the Wasteland have eroded his morals and he expects the same to happen to Lucy.
That's exactly what he meant.
It's also why she says 'I may end up looking like you, but I'll never be like you'. Which is literally addressing the ghoul/bad guy answer to his statement.
I did not expect to see tears😢 are you ok?
Its called a double entendre. Both are true.
Has to be that. The way I gather, it is rare for someone to become a ghoul and the exact conditions required don't seem to be known. So it is a behavioural change that he expects from her.
Ironically, Maximus bumbled into keeping his word. He brought the Brotherhood to save Lucy's father.
I'm convinced that he removed all his points from Intelligence and dropped them into Luck.
@@CheckersMcGavern idiot savant.
From a certain point of view: Yes. 😉
@@mchawk7777 is that you Obi Wan?!
That's twice he came to rescue Lucy and it turned out she didn't need saving.
15:00 "This is so dark." All of the ideas mentioned at the table are real vaults from the games. "War never changes" is also a quote that the narrator says in every game.
I appreciate the subtle ties to the stories in the games. Like the "water chip" failing in vault 33 was a callback to the starting plot point in Fallout 1 which drives the player as a Vault Dweller to venture out into the wasteland in search of a replacement.
I do wish they could have gotten Ron Perlman as one of the suits at the meeting to give the War Never Changes line.
@@troikas3353 I’m wondering if the ‘figure’ they show up top overseeing the meeting at Vault Tec or ‘the man in charge’ may be revealed to be Ron Pearlman as some sort of higher up CEO for Vault Tec. Especially considering after coops wife looks up and sees him, she does the speech with the ‘war never changes’ line.
Fun little easter egg, 101097, is the release date for the first Fallout game.
The fact that the showrunners chose that specifically as an Easter egg shows that they actually like and respect the games and fans.
I had a feeling that was a reference. I thought it might be someone's birthday, but I guess it was something's birthday.
@@PaulGuy well, we'll see how they treat the new vegas lore seeing how they blew up Shady Sands.
The question applies to Maximus too. “Will you still want the same things when you have become another animal altogether?”
I think it applies to all of them. When Coop finds what he's looking for, he's going to become something new too.
I suspect it will come to apply to all of them, even the Ghoul.
@@michaelshigetani433 It would be interesting if his daughter is an adult now and ends up being an antagonist or something that he either has to fight or find a way to save.
@@APBRadial Oh yeah. In fact I think you're so spot on that this comment of yours almost seems like a spoiler despite the fact that it can't possibly be one, given that following seasons haven't even been shot yet, lol!
At any rate, I firmly believe we will see his daughter again, and not only as a flashback. Possibly his wife too.
@@michaelshigetani433 Already does. He started his journey looking for the head. Now he's looking for his family / the people responsible.
10:52 see, Angela's big braindedness strikes again! Before I can even head to the comments to remind her that he was the Ghoul that thanked Lucy for freeing him, she connects the dots herself. She's watching like 5 shows right now and still manages to stay *that* on top of everything. She's so rad.
Also THIS was the finale reaction I was waiting for, all across RUclips. Did not disappoint. You have a gift, Angela.
Hahah. Rad.
@@AL-fl4jk Rad!
Spring 2026, for season 2 of Fallout
@@LezArtist5iG Tooo long!
@@maksphoto78 I know, but nothing we can do about it. 😆
I love Lucy’s cold and solemn “okie dokie” with the dark foreboding music in the background being her last line of the season.
You should definitely play Fallout New Vegas before season 2.
Really curious where her character will go and whether she can uphold the golden rule in all of this. Cooper went through a couple hundred years of this mess, the worst of it was probably the beginning of the end too, while Lucy is just up there for a few weeks. "The wasteland sucks."
I am always tearing up when the confrontation Lucy/her dad happens,
so I was glad to see you react this way. Thanks for a emotional funride!
The irony of Hank nuking Shady Sands is that the core of it was founded by Vault 15. But a different vault with different objectives and a century or two of seperation.
Did he? ... Oh yeah the woman who killed many without a remorse told so...
Definatey it was a nuke that caused a nuclear explosion at a location where a nuclear physicists were trying to start her 200 year ol cold fusion idea, a nuclear reactor, with scarce resources. Or maybe stole back her old machine that was bought by Vault Tex 200 years ago, tried to start it without a password and..... She would blame Vault Tec for it.
capitalist competition
Yup. Hank could have seen the New California Republic as evidence that he was right. Instead he saw them as competition and wiped them out.
Vault-Tec as an entity makes little to no sense if you think about it for more than a moment. This is a mega-corporation with a complete stranglehold on the modern world. They have governments in their pocket, they have the resources to buy out entire tech research sectors like cold fusion, and they have access to nuclear warheads. So a corporation with this much power, is supposedly going to surrender all that power they have, just so they are the only people who *potentially* still have power hundreds of years in the future? If they by some miracle somehow survive the nuclear armagedon they are trying to unleash? Also Vault-Tec outsourced their own vaults to other corporations, so now in this potential world future, they will have more direct competition than they have already.
Just goes to show how flawed corporate logic and be, Vault Tec wanted to eliminate all factions by only having people from their vaults survive the war but then they out source their vaults to other corporation who created vaults with different goals and philosophys thereby creating differing factions.
So when those execs were listing off hypothetical valut experiments, they are all real vaults you can find in the games.
"We could overcrowd a Vault so people have to compete to survive inside it." - Vault 27
"We have been developing a robot to deliver milk, it's quite intelligent. I would like to see a Vault governed by it." - Vault 7
"What about using a Vault to develop a Super-Mutant soldier using illegal immigrants?" - Vault 87
"We could pump psychoactive drugs into the air supply." - Vault 106
"We could separate parents and children." - Vault 29
It's rare that a show with mysteries answers them THIS satisfactorily.
Fun Easter egg: the code for the cold fusion device is the date the first fallout game was released.
When coop first talks to Bud at the commercial after party he talks about the war, bud was a salesman for the power armor and coop said it got a lot of men killed, so they setup him knowing the flaws well.
He also refers to himself as a Marine in EP1, and in EP2 talks about basic training and Maximus not reading the manual. As always with this show, the clues are there for the viewing, just not waved in your face.
There IS a reason why the topography around New Vegas is so drastically different, but that would be going into spoilers. I'm glad you enjoyed the show!
Actually its not the cartography around New Vegas was all based off the real thing, they took pains to do this, but they had to scale the distances down between things for the game, hence why mountains being closer than irl.
@@janetd5121 yeah , unfortunately Todd hate vegas so hard you can expect everythign reworked from scratch to " prove" us he can do it better than some obsidian :D
@@alanea5860 Utter nonsense. Todd Howard does not hate New Vegas and Bethesda has confirmed the game is cannon and the show changes nothing that happened in the game. All the major events happening in show happen after the game. Even in New Vegas the narrative of the NCR is it was overstretched and in decline. That started with the first battle of hoover dam in...2077.
I love New Vegas as well but there is sub-section of fans with this insane belief Bethesda hates it and they never present any proof, only claims they cannot prove. The guys who made New Vegas have repeatedly said their relationship was good with Bethesda.
Hate to burst your bubble too but here are facts as well, Fallout 3 not only got higher review scores at the time, it has still to date sold more copies than New Vegas. Fallout 4 has sold more than double either New Vegas or Fallout 3.
@@alanea5860Sorry about your creepy parasocial relationship with Todd Howard but don't make it everyone else's problem
@@janetd5121 Todd Howard has literally said that he dislikes the non-Bethesda lore. That's, IMO, one of the main reasons he had them nuke Shady Sands in the show, 'destroying the past' both in the show world and in the metaphorical sense of sweeping the original lore off the board.
Pre-bombs falling Cooper wore the T-45 version of Power Armor during his time as a marine fighting "the reds" in Alaska. The Brotherhood of Steel in the show wear the T-60 version.
But it makes it so stupid the fight with Max in the town.
@@viperswhipyeah that only makes sense if he just wanted to have fun with the fight, (Maximus was unarmed at the time so he probably didn’t see as big a threat) otherwise it’s just plot armor for Maximus
@@viperswhip Are you referring to the Ghoul vs BoS fight at the end and the reveal of the armor defect and why didn't the Ghoul just kill Max in Filly? I understood it this way...when he is talking to the BoS and about to shoot them, the camera is focusing in on his bullet, which has a spiked tipped shaped. The ones he used on the towns folk of Filly opening up big holes in their bodies has a rounded tip. So different types of bullets. I figure the director focused in on the bullet to explain why the Ghoul didn't just kill Max originally. That this spiked shaped bullet was armor piercing and specifically for use against the PA units and not a bullet he used in Filly, thus the reason Max was able to survive because the Ghoul wasn't expecting a fight with a PA unit but was when he snuck into the Observatory.
@@viperswhip he loaded some special ammo when talking , ( some weird heavy kinetic penetrator) instead normal shell
Meanwhile in town he couldnt know who charge in + its possible he prepared such ammo after learning Brotherhood wants head
@viperswhip Titus' armor also had a special mod, tempered lining. In the game, it increases protection. The Ghoul probably saw that it covered the weakness in the factory model.
The Vegas area is very compressed in the game. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to walk across the entire map in an hour. So the mountains might have been moved a little closer to town, for gameplay reasons. Just accept that this is an alternate universe that operates on videogame logic. 😄
@TE-LE-GRAM-funnylilgalreacts5 You are approached by a frenzied scientist, who yells, "I'm going to put my quantum harmonizer in your photonic resonation chamber!" What's your response?
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Jesus Christ, this is the best reaction to the final episode this season I've seen. You broke in tears. I'm in tears.
14:12 Yay, you got that they were cryotubes immediately!
I've seen some people struggle to understand that, even after seeing the young version of Hank, and his cryotube.
Idk how but they captured almost all the iconic aspects of the game and somehow transformed that into a fun and cool show 😊 great reaction btw
It helps that Fallout is probably the most well written and flushed out video game IP ever. I think most game adaptations fail because the games they are based on are very linear.
@@theheatinferno8420Helpful tip: “Fleshed out” is a term for added detailed and “flushed out” is a term for having forced someone to leave their position of refuge.
Argumentative opinion: Final Fantasy has been progressively granular and obsessively world-building for decades. I haven’t played Fallout but when I think of fleshed-out game settings, Final Fantasy is at the forefront of my mind.
@@AngeloBarovierSD I thought all the FF games play in different universes (I personally don't like them).
@@Dark__Thoughts For the most part, though they started to remix old elements in later games.
But it’s kind of my point. They created whole ecosystems, histories, mythologies, storylines, and character details time and time again, over and beyond other game IPs (which didn’t have originating IPs from elsewhere).
It just became expected you’d have that kind of attention to detail with each new version, and it pushed the bar higher for other RPG game franchises.
@@AngeloBarovierSD To me this just feels inconsistent and lazy, Zelda does a similar thing and I don't understand why people think that's a good thing. It's like they cannot think of anything new but also don't want to follow a coherent world building.
Girl, you got me crying when you started crying. What a genuine reaction. I've enjoyed watching this show with you. I hope you'll do the next season when it comes out. Really enjoy your content!
Hey, remember in the first episode when they dug up the Ghoul, they brought a chicken? Cause apparently feral ghouls go nuts for chickens.
Now think about the snake oil salesman who "cured" Thaddeus and what he's known for. The clues were there all along. Our resident quack is one of them.
Makes sense!
It has been my opinion that Maximus joined the Brotherhood after a Knight saved him, then over the years had become disillusioned with how things were transpiring. When you see his face at the final scene when Dane was holding his arm, you see that disillusionment torn by the need for revenge of what happened to Shady Sands.
Moldaver was a scientist and probably had connections for a private Cryo-tube.
It wasn't in you cut of this video, but if you watch Barb when the meeting devolves into arguments, she gets a message on her Pipboy, looks up to a shadowy figure watching down on the meeting, then she takes over. Back an episode or so Miss Williams (aka Moldaver) told Cooper that she was on the verge of creating Cold Fusion when his wife's division bought up every company that she (Williams/Moldaver) ever worked for. Therefore, it is my belief that Barb was much further up the chain of command in Vault-Tec, possibly a senior executive or even a division head.
Moldaver was also rich. I'm sure there was a bunch of ways influential people had access to cryo tubes. They also reveal her in the same episode as when they show the pods in vault 4 so I feel that's an intentional narrative hint.
24:40 Unfair. Maximus gets through these positions thanks to his own merit.
When Dane screws him over (unintentionally) it’s his fervor that convinces the cleric to let him live/be Titus’ squire.
He gets the armor because he’s (apparently surprisingly) a good shot and put down a Yao Guai on 2 shots.
Rescues his armor because he’s an endurance Beast.
Gets rescued from his armor because he saved (he does that a lot)the girl with the big eyes in Filly.
Even when he was brought to his execution, he was saved because he had cultivated a good relationship with Dane and got the location of Moldaver from Lucy.
Any fortune Max received, was because he had sowed the seeds for success (even inadvertently) earlier
So yes, as the only BOS member who braved the front line and made it to the finish line, he deserved the promotion.
Someone explained to her before that Maximus has the _Idiot Savant_ perk. A perk that works based on luck, and the lower your intelligence is the better xD
And I kind of agree with you: the _Idiot Savant_ perk on his own can't do everything. Heck, even the things he earns thanks to the perk still belongs to him: it is a talent he owns.
@@Ilwenray85 and I’m good with that. 👍🏾
i have a weird feeling that Thaddeus may be a Super Mutant instead of a ghoul... but we wont know 100% till they tell us
its popular theory but wrong as long as they keep up atleast little with lore, super mutants also bleed even if fully transformed.
Super mutants heal only little faster than human, they dont posses crazy healing abilities of ghouls nor heal as result of radiation.
Yes. You don't become a ghoul via some serum (neither do you have to take serums to prevent becoming feral). So this really points to the genome modification to be made a super mutant.
@@maksphoto78 while supermutants have faster regeneration , they stilll require weeks to heal wounds and cant regenerate missign or severely damage parts
thats why fallout universe contain many mutants who are scarred , burned , or missing limb / eye
this theory would be lore wise nonsense because FEV wouldnt fix his leg
on other side ghouls can tdo this but only when exposed to radiation ( but who knows how radiactive that cure was)
@@alanea5860 Sure, but how many supermutants have we seen RIGHT AFTER they got their FEV? How many had it injected right into their system rather than being bathed in it. It wouldn't be nonsense, it just sidesteps what we know to get around the hurdles.
I hope Pemberton (Thaddeus) gets to play a supermutant IF they can take enough care with the animation to make him look at least as believable as Hulk.
@@DavidWright1138 hundreds
Master was creating supermutants all the time
but it doesnt matter , as i say mutants dont get significant regeneration ... thats simply not goal of FEV
... thaddeus inhaled liquid = same thing would hgappoen to person thrown in fev tank
The way all of the plot threads come together for that insane final act is some of the best TV show writing I've seen in years. Been waiting all season for your reaction to the finale and it didn't disappoint!
6:43 Ghouls absolutely do form from radiation. It’s not the only way but it definitely is how people turn to ghouls. In the Fallout lore an entire vault became ghouls because the main gate wasn’t closed all the way.
not just radiation , we also seen ghouls created by unknown strains of FEV
+ it is mentioned they used mutagenic weapons as well as nukes
@@alanea5860 Yes I already said it’s not the only way. In Fallout 4 Hancock says he was turned ghoul from taking a drug. There might have been someone else in game but I don’t remember his name.
@Retrovorious Harold from the first few games (i.e. F1-F3, but not Tactics) became a ghoul or something akin to one -- depending on one's opinion of how we define "ghoul" -- by getting exposed to FEV prior to the first game. It's probably more accurate to call him an FEB mutant and not a ghoul -- especially if you take his additional mutations in F2 and F3 into account (no other ghouls have been seen sprouting trees from their heads as far as I'm aware).
@@JudoGeoff Tree is actually separate entity that eventually consume him
its not mutation , or related to his state
@@alanea5860Its more like parasite but they coexist
Cooper wore power armor during the war, before the bombs dropped. When he met Bud Askins for the first time, he mentioned that his design flaws cost a lot of lives.
As a Bostonian who bristled/groaned/laughed at "10 miles west of Boston" in The Last of Us, I appreciate your feelings on Las Vegas.
Vault Tec is the Umbrella Corporation of the Fallout Universe! Bastards! And all those vault experiments they were brainstorming in the meeting did happen in different vaults across the wasteland. We come across some of them in each of the Fallout games.
This series was incredible! But it only scratches the surface of how messed up the wasteland is, and it always comes back to Vault-Tec!
I think there is some valditiy to Hank saying "She stopped being your mother when she left home, and took you into danger." Maybe not the first part exactly, but her mom leaving the vault with her Pipboy put the entirety of all three Vaults into danger. She gave the outside world a means to get in there, which is what Muldaver literally did and came in and slaughtered a bunch of innocent people in order to kidnap Hank.
It doesnt jusify nuking Shady Sands by any means, but Rose did actually put not just Lucy but the hundreds of people in the Vault at risk by leaving with her Pipboy.
What's even more interesting about the design of the show is that when Cooper is dropping off his wife, Bud shows up and parks next to him. If you really look at his car, he's in a very small black car that has a big dome windscreen/roof where you can only see his head. Then in Vault 31, he's on a very small black conveyance that has a big dome where only his brain is visible. It's such a good bit of design that shows Bud hasn't changed one bit in over 200 years..
It's save to assume, that while Coops wife was ready to have Vault-Tec drop the Bomb if necessary, in the end it wasn't actually them doing it.
Assuming that she would have made sure her daughter was in a save spot when it happens and not out doing birthday parties with Coop.
Or Barb lost her privilaged status when the information leak happened by her own husband. So they didn't gave ehr the vital info.
The code Hank used to unlock the cold fusion is an Easter Egg those numbers were the date the original Fallout game released.
I think what everyone missed is that Hank was middle management. Barb was upper management. She talked about being in a vault that controlled all other vaults. Vault 31 only controls 32 and 33. Hence the reason Hank and Betty were there.
Yep, Barb and daughter are definitely in a special vault which is not 31. Having played the games, and knowing that "happy endings" are few and far between, I fear our main characters endings will be bitter ones.
Yeah, but the fact that Bud is there brings it into question. It's a safe assumption that there's a hierarchy in the order they're released from stasis, leaving upper management for last.
I'm not saying you're wrong tho, just playing Devil's Advocate.
@@Lordoftheapes79My belief when it comes to Bud is he either stayed or was ordered to stay to be the one waking up the Middle Management people for the reasons stated in the episode. Or maybe you just said what I said, but I didn't really understand, it all too well (reading comprehension is shot when you have 7th grade level RC). Or something. Which is why he's an RC car with his brain intact and a voice modulator. I don't know. If/when all the Middle people wake up and have some progress with whatever it is they're suppose to be woken up for, then and only then Upper will be woken up to reorganize the country or something. I could be an idiot and is wrong about all of this. Much love and respect.
Barb also mentions securing a place in 'one of the good vaults'. She was aware of the Vault-Tec fuckery from the start. Hell of a day to find out you married Capitalist Hitler.
@@Lordoftheapes79 It would make sense, but it wouldn't be very interesting narratively to figure out that Barb and their daughter was in Vault 31 the entire time. Then again, the ending of the RPG Planescape: Torment happens literally in the room next to the room where the game starts.
Right at the end there, Hank was looking at New Vegas, the settlement built over the ruins of Las Vegas… seen from a distance across the Mojave wasteland.
What i love is that theres an explanation for why the ghoul didnt just defeat maximus immediately as well. The armour he used had tempered lining which made it more durable in the flaw
He probably also hadn't prepared armor piercing rounds for a town shootout. He was using explosive rounds for maximum damage against common, unarmored wastelanders.
If you watch carefully you'll also notice he had to switch to his Lever-Action Rile after he tried to shoot Lucy, his special gun jammed.
And he may not wat to reveal to the BoS that their PA has a fatal flaw. He would save that fro when he needs to exploit it.
15:04 Some of the vaults in the Fallout games are truly dark. I hope we get to see some of the vaults from the games in later seasons. Lots of interesting stories to be told.
I am pretty sure they won't show us any vaults we have already seen in-game, but I do hope we get a freaky new vault or two in coming seasons.
Then again, my wish list for the future seasons is pretty long! LOL 🤣
I would say that Bud has awoken all the people in cryo-tubes to clean Vault 32. There are only 2 people in 33 originally from 31 (Betty and Steph) and nobody else could know how it looked originally in Vault 32. And the two of them could not clean all the vault themselves in day or two. So they needed help. So I suppose Bud brought all the Vault Tec staff to help - so they know what is expected of them and what is going on.
The ghoul in the observatory was the one who said Hey, thank you when released by Lucy in Super Duper Mart.
Possibly but my assumption she does have a few trusted man, the person who gave the poisoned food through the slid looked like a male torso to me.
If so as Betty was making sure the gene pool is safe, and the resources are not spent on the raiders she did what had to be done.
Note she didn't blamed Norm. She just acted as was needed.
She HAD to have had help with cleaning up Vault 32. At first, I was like yeah maybe her and Steph could have moved the bodies and cleaned up, but there was also that pile of rubble from the bomb that's been cleaned up. Even Chet had problems moving those, so it's nearly impossible that an old or pregnant lady were able to do that, especially in such a short timeframe.
That's a good guess. I had assumed he activated a handful of Mr Handy's.
Thing is we're not certain that Thaddeus is a ghoul. Ghouls aren't usually known for quick healing, just high damage resistance. Some theories are that he's slowly turning into a Super Mutant
Thaddeus as a super mutant would be the funniest thing
Theories abound! I can't wait for season two.
@@Ho_Lee_FookTbh him getting angry but still being silly would be funny
When Lucy was convincing Maximus to return the fusion core back at Vault 4 and was theorizing what her father would think if she killed an entire city just to save him...now we know that Hank would have been proud of her.
I think they are using the in-game version of Las Vegas, rather than real life. Fallout: New Vegas was a much beloved game and the landscape we see resembles it a lot.
For one who have played through all Fallout games (including 76 and Shelter), those peeps around the table mean a lot. Through the games we learn about them and their companies.
SPOILERS (The people around the table)
West-Tek: Leon von Feldon (Fallout and Fallout 3, only in text)
RepConn: Julia Masters (Fallout New Vegas, only in text)
Big MT: Frederick Sinclair (Fallout New Vegas dlc Sierra Madre, text and you can find his skeleton)
Rob-Co: Robert House (Fallout New Vegas main character)
The last 2, Barbs and Bud Askins are new additions to the lore.
14:45 All these ideas are vaults in the games btw.
17:31 The raiders form episode 1 were probably also fugitives from Shady Sands and maybe saw all vault dwellers there in 31, 32 and 33 as the evil people who blew up their city.
27:52 Does she hate Cooper? He was kinda fighting with the New California Republic against the Brotherhood there at the end.
using known vaults was a nice touch.
Not to mention the vault with 999 men and 1 woman and the one with 999 women and one man.
The raiders in Vault 33 were damn near feral, and she left them behind and took only a disciplined few of her own with her. It has been pretty widely theorized that the handful of disciplined ones were NCR soldiers that Moldaver brought with, and the rest were hired (and expendable) raiders who were meant to create chaos and a distraction. I mean she leaves ALL of those raiders behind.
But yeah, for Moldaver and the few NCR troops she has under her command, Hank (and Vault-Tec) are the enemy, and the Vault dwellers are at best Vault-Tec's human shield and at worst complicit in the destruction of Shady Sands.
@@arthurwigglesby8590 If she had more control over the raiders, she probably would have taken the time to train them more so they could better pretend to be Vault dwellers. If the residents of 33 were a bit less complacent, they should have spotted the deception as soon as it became apparent that the 32ers could not use basic utensils. The raiders might have even been told that once the fighting started, they were on their own and might be left behind. They went anyway because it was going to be the best party of their lives.
I'd guess those Raiders were Khans. They're one of the few raider groups I know of that do mercenary work, and the show takes place in their old territory.
This episode hurts even more after Lucy telling Maximus that her father would be disappointed if she sacrificed a whole community. When he destroyed a whole city just to be petty
Yeah, I noticed that clever bit of writing, too. Good bit of foreshadowing, and showing what a lying bastard Hank really is.
He wasn't being petty, he was doing what Vault-Tec had planned all along. Making it so they alone would be the ones to repopulate the planet. Their mistake was overestimating the bombs' effectiveness in wiping out humanity. Shady Sands proved they'd miscalculated, and Hank wanted to "fix" that mistake.
Maximus is indeed impulsive, if nothing else. You are so one of my very favorite reactors!
It's been fun watching with you. A couple of thoughts to consider are that some of the vaults that they mention here are not even the worst of the experiments that were run on the residents that you see in the games. Some of them are so unspeakably horrible that it's truly terrifying that someone had to think of it.
Also I have a theory that Hank installed the projector that creates the sunny field in the vault after he brought the kids back in order to be able to explain away any memories they had of the outside world.
I love the foreshadowing of Lucy's flashback when she's holding an apple. There are no apple trees in the vault!
In episode 1 or 2 the head guy told Lucy she'd have to adapt. But then he asked "will you still want the same things once you've become a different animal all together"
I suspect that lucy won't want the vaults anymore... at least I hope so
the ghoul that recognised Lucy was the one that thanked her when she released all the ghouls.
29:00 Hank didn't want Rose to find out she was right exactly because of Lucy's reaction when she and Maximus found the welcome to Shady Sands sign - repopulating the surface someday was the common goal that kept them all going. Imagine her reaction of 'it happened without us' happening to a whole vault. Why, they might do something crazy like try and overthrow the Overseer, kill each other, or kill themselves.
Loved your emotion when you found out that the ghoul sitting at the table was Lucy's mother, I had the same thing happen to me. I'm really looking forward to Season 2 and your reaction to it. Have a great day lilgal, your the best.
a couple easter eggs easy to miss....in the first scenes of episode 2, there is a gurney being wheeled into one of the labs in the Enclave...with a body underneath some sheets....one hand peeks out, it is extremely dark green, most likely the hand of a 'super mutant'....and in the closing credits of episode 8, in the lower left foreground as the camera zooms out from New Vegas....is the skull of a DEATHCLAW (and everyone thinks the Gulper or the Yaogui that killed Titus was bad)....hints of some creatures to come in season two....
I really enjoyed your reaction to this. You asked all the right questions at the beginning of the finale. It looked to me like Vault 32 was the overcrowding experiment. They somehow found out what Vault 31 was - maybe their Overseer blabbed - but it was too late for the information to help them.
Hank's headed your way! :D And both Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas are perfectly fine introductions to the series, but the majority opinion is that New Vegas has the best gameplay/story of the two. Fallout 4 is also fine (it does have more modern gameplay than the others but isn't as story-strong). I don't think you'll be spoiled by playing New Vegas before season 2 - as a matter of fact it may provide some insight into the influence of the New California Republic prior to the loss of Shady Sands, and more depth on the CEO of RobCo, Robert House (shown in that war room sequence, the guy with the mustache).
Also, I'd watch the hell out of one of your playthroughs.
Considering that, canonically, Fallout: New Vegas happens prior to the start of the show I'd say playing it is definitely spoiler free.
The ghoul that was looking at Lucy when she got to the observatory was definitely one of the ones she rescued from the Super Duper Mart. In fact, he was the one who stopped to say "Thank you" before leaving
I've been watching your reactions, for I don't know how long, and I never realized you lived in vegas like me. That's pretty cool. I've been in vegas for 11 years. I love it here.
What a fun ride this has been watching you watch my favorite series to come out in a long time. I am a huge fan of the Fallout games and they did a beautiful job.
Also, watching you cry made me cry all over again so thank you for that 🔥❤️✌️
Thaddeus is likely on his way to becoming a Super Mutant.
As an Australian, I definitely had no idea the mountains were wrong 😆 The city part felt a dead ringer for the New Vegas game.
The main games (creatively named Fallout 1, 2, 3, and 4) all have you as a different Vaultie in different areas explorong the surface for andifferent reason - so no real crossovers with Season 1.
Heading to New Vegas will be different because they may have to commit to one of the possible, and very different, endings for that game.
I am so very keen for Season 2, and subsequently your reactions to it.
One of the top episodes of TV I've seen. Would feel that way even if I hadn't played the games. Beautiful reaction, Angela!
The idea of bud's roomba is sound. Slow is the way to go if you want something to last 2-3 hundred or more years, the faster you move a object the more wear and tear the object has. There is also a saying...something about "being fast is being slow in a hurry".
It’s crazy because I’ve watched the season twice and I never noticed that was Betty.
Also, I remember Lucy saying when she was with her mom she said it felt like it was really the “sun”
Great ending to a great story. Fun Facts! The code input by Hank. 101097 is the date the first video Fallout game was released. All the evil things the CEOs around the table were talking about doing with their Vaults. These are actual experiments the players will find in the vaults they explore throughout the Fallout game series. The show used actual Brotherhood of Steel power armor. Not CGI. Ella Purnell broke so many of her Pip Boy props that the showrunners would not allow her to get anywhere near the Power Armor costumes they had made. That is the landscape of New Vegas from the Fallout New Vegas game. The Stratosphere is the Lucky 38 casino which is the final resting place of Robert House. One of the CEOs in the Vault-Tec discussion room. This show occurs 9 years after the Second Battle of Hoover Dam in the Fallout New Vegas game. (Which I am currently playing) One hell of a good story.
Hi Angela, I'd like to fill in some blanks for you now that there's no spoilers.
1) New Vegas IS what was Las Vegas, but in the game the scale of the map is compressed, so too in the show. All the same landmarks, just a lot closer than in reality. Players wouldn't want to walk for real-world weeks just to get from Vegas to Hoover Dam or Nellis AFB. ;)
2) 32 was invaded by Moldaver because Hank took Lucy and abandoned Rose on the surface. And Moldaver used Rose's Pip-Boy to get into 32, told the residents what 31 was really up to, and they went mad.
3) If you think Vault-Tec was dark in the show, the games are far more dark by far. Every vault was an experiment of one sort or another.
4) Bud's job was to keep tabs on what all the vaults were doing, collecting and collating the data so when people like Betty, Hank, and Stephanie woke up, they could be briefed with where their plan stood. That was the point of the "Bud's Buds" project Bud was babbling on about in the parking lot.
5) While it's not explicitly stated, Cooper served in the Army prior to the bombs dropping. From game lore, there were resource wars chiefly between the US and China, as the oil reserves dried up and everyone got desperate. Another reason Vault-Tec tried to bury cold fusion.
6) And if you decide to play the Fallout games I recommend playing on Very Easy so you can concentrate on the story rather than combat. Especially Fallout 4 because once you start to learn more about the games, the more little easter eggs you'll see in the game. From the weapons on the wall in Filly, to the magazine the guy's reading as Lucy enters Filly. SOOOOO many easter eggs you could make hours of content on that alone. (And people are.)
There are a lot of interesting Easter Eggs and such scattered throughout the series. My number one takeaway the first time I watched it, however, wasn't anything of that sort. My read on the final episode was "Maximus and Lucy both got exactly what they wanted, but they changed so much over the course of the show, that neither of them wants it anymore."
Maximus started out as a young aspirant who, more than anything else, wanted to be a Knight, a hero of the Brotherhood, and so he is.
Lucy wanted to find her father and figure out the truth about what was behind the attack on her home. She succeeded in acheiving both of those objectives.
Despite these successes, I think we can safely say that " and they lived happily ever after" isn't exactly the conclusion we have reached.
You actually end up seeing the aftermath of many of the Vault experiments mentioned by the board in the games. In fact pretty much all of them.
I reference to Vault 32, I think if we put some of the information together we're shown and told about in the Vault we can piece together what happened there to some degree.
-When we first meet Lucy she is applying to be married so she can participate in the triennial trade with Vault 32, so we know they trade once every three years.
-When Lucy first meets her supposed husband Hank mentions about Vault 32's blight situation.
-When we see Chet sitting down to eat we get a shot of his plate where it's a few slices of cooked Cram and then a corn medley and traditional salad, so we know the Vault Dwellers mostly eat from their crops.
-Then when Norm goes into Vault 32 he realizes the last bio signs from the Pip-Boy readings show two years ago.
So it seems that Vault 31 last traded with 32 three years ago, a year later they had a blight on the crop so the Overseer of 32 was able to convey that to Hank. At which point they are apparently prohibited from interacting with each other so 32 is left on their own. They have no crops, probably eat their way through their remaining canned food stores and begin to turn on each other.
Since we now know that the Overseer of 32 was someone from Pre-War times he probably either tried to go back to 31 or at the very least spilled the beans about the experiment. This causes the Vault 32 inhabitants to tie him to his Overseer chair and kill him. They then end up turning on each other or ending themselves.
Moldaver has Rose's Pip-Boy and needs a Vault-Tec manager. She probably realizes from Rose that they can't get into 31 and 33 has Hank, so 32 is the entry point. They find everyone dead and begin communication with Hank for the upcoming trade.
Could be different order intended on these events but that seemed to make the most sense to me.
How you felt seeing Vegas was how we felt seeing Salt Lake City in Last of Us lol
Wild theory, Vault Girl: we know Cooper was the Vault Boy, the inspiration. What if Steph was the original Vault Girl? Blonde, looks like a model or actress, we know she is from Vault 31 so she lived before the bombs fell. They needed a female for the advertisements too. If so she might even know Cooper, the actor, before the war. Definately room for her character, and for Chet to free Norm.... Betty and Steph aren't that evil. They knew their DNA pool can't be mixed with raiders. And not enough resources.
But they never blamed Norm for the poisoning. Nor Betty acted against Norm other then separated him from Chet. They are all one family.... (Bud's Bud family lol)
They didn't blame Norm for the poisoning 'yet'. Based on what he said at the meeting combined with being 'demoted' to feeding the prisoners, everyone probably assumes he did it. It's a good way to siphon away his credibility if he gets out of 31 and tries to reveal 'the truth'.
@@gork8468 i had the impression the younger female guard was looked at who got the cake earlier. She was saying she didn't do it. We must admit they had the power and means to blame him, lock him up even execute him for it. This shows their approach. Of course they are hiding things but could be way way worse
I love the table council with a revealed confirmation for the video game players (not the bombs part, though that is a confirmation on who started the bombings) but specifically Robco guy is neat
9:17 “Dane…You don’t owe him anything though…”
😅 Wellllllllllll
I've never actually played the games, but this series is so damn good. And Walton Goggins as a Ghoul is such a badass.
I'm reading a fun book where a roomba becomes a god, so then seeing the brain-on-a-roomba made me lol quite a lot.
10:55 That was one of the ghouls in the Super Duper Mart. The one that thanked her before he ran off.
"I went to a lot of effort to make sure out daughter was put in one of the *good* vaults."
The experiment in 32 was the over population one they were talking about in the meeting.
Loved the series and your reactions. Can’t wait but have to for next season.
Also, was not expecting x-men 97, that one’s gonna be a ride
You mentioned how appropriate "We Three" was at the end of the episode. The three in the song are "my echo, my shadow, and I". I think they've even set this up, so the ghoul is the "I" in the song. Dogmeat (404) is his shadow. Lucy is his echo - " I'm you sweetheart, give it some time".
I very much enjoyed your Fallout reaction videos.
Regarding what happened in vault 32, I think Norm and Chet found the aftermath of a mutiny against the overseer and vault 31. I think the bodies hanging outside the overseer's office were mutineers hung by the overseer's supporters after Conflict Resolution 101 failed and the overseer moved on to Vault-Tec Resolution 201 (murder and intimidation). It backfired and generated more support for the mutiny. In the end, the overseer either triggered a failsafe (deadman switch) or it was triggered automatically when the mutineers tried to break through the door to 31. Fast-acting nerve gas flooded the whole vault killing everyone on both sides of the conflict. Other commenters have interesting suggestions about what might have triggered the mutiny.
Norm has time to explore what there is of vault 31 and maybe come up with a plan to escape. I am hoping he can engage RoomBud in conversation since Bud liked to talk. Maybe Norm (and we) can learn more about the tri-vault setup and the rules that govern it. Does RoomBud know what happened in vault 32? Why didn't Hank know what happened in vault 32?
I am particularly looking forward to the dynamic between Lucy and Coop. She's now actually travelling with someone who can tell her about the last 200 years. Will she realize that she grew up watching his movies? Will she call him Coop, Mr. Howard or Ghoul? She'd probably think calling him Ghoul is disrespectful. Will she learn that his new trigger finger used to be her finger? Will he open up to her and tell her about his family? So much potential there.
Loved your reaction to this season! I love the games, so for me it was an amazing show mixed Easter egg hunt, and the way I SQUEALED when the camera panned up and Hank was heading to New Vegas… I’m SO EXCITED. But also, as others have said, there IS a reason the topography looks weird around Vegas that Fallout: New Vegas explains
It'll be interesting to see what they consider canon from the game. Will Mr. House be alive? Who won the battle at Hoover Dam? I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS
Also, I looked at the end credits of an episode yesterday, and saw the name Moises Arias. I did not recognize him at all as Lucy's brother, because I first saw him as a little boy on Hannah Montana.
25:45 The mountain ranges may be in the wrong spot, probably because the gameplay maps for Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 3 (Washington DC), Fallout 4 (Boston) and Fallout 76 (West Virginia) tend to condense existing landmarks and topography. Believe me, I've been to both Boston and Washington DC and in both locations the distance between landmarks has been shortened considerably.
You're really good at remembering details. I had to wait until rewatch to pick up on a lot of stuff. You'll probably still find some smaller details.
All of the vaults described in the meeting exist in one of the games. : )
It's heavy hinted that Rose and Moldavor were more than friends (keeping her around, holding her hand after, the flashbacks where Moldavor is with Rose and her kids in the background, etc). Hank might have burned Shady Sands more out of jealousy than anything.
Christ you made me laugh “I need the ghoul theme when I’m working g out cuz “waaaaaahhhhh”. Made me friggib laugh.
"Wow she's really good at crying!" Game recognizes game, I guess. 😛❤
Shout out for you to pointing out Betty in the past! I've watched the show and other reactors multiple times and you nailed it! I had no idea until now.
You should DEFINITELY give Westworld a watch. Made by the same company. Similar vibes and twists! However it got canceled.
All of the Vaults you hear about in that meeting, those are vaults you can find in the games. The one where they mutate people into super mutants is in either 3 or New Vegas. The one where they pump drugs into the air is in 4 I believe.
Now that everything has happened I can finally say this! In episode 5, when Norm asks Betty what happened to his moms pip-boy, and she say's "I buried her myself. Me, and your father" becomes SOOOOO much darker. Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas are the best of the games
I look forward to seeing what the next season will bring, I hope we get to see more of the NCR, especially the Veteran Rangers
Good job catching on, better that a few other "reactors." Remember, the Fallout series of games are an 'alternate history' for the world; it assumes that transistors were never developed, that nuclear power development continued and was infiltrated into all aspects of society (without solving the problems of how to handle the waste), and that there was a general cavalier attitude towards radiation in general. It also assumes that the primary enemy of the U.S. was a mythical Sino Asian society (aka China) and the 'cold war' of this world was a) not so cold, and b) eventually led to bombs being dropped. This series has expanded the story with new elements, e.g. that Vault Tek had a hand in dropping the bombs or enticing them to be dropped. What is NOT new is that each vault was a 'social experiment' of one kind or another; that was established by the games.
Season 2 of this series has the potential to be really great. It will have to work hard to be as good at wrapping up threads as season 1 was. Episode 8 is just the best, speaking as a Fallout gamer fan.
I had Vault 319 running on my phone for the longest time lol. but it was basically just for when I was killing time somewhere, and now it doesn't load on that old phone lol.
Your reactions are precious and amazing.
I'm gonna miss this series from you sooo much! Counting the days till season 2.
And you should totally play New Vegas! A lot of peoples favorite Fallout game, including mine ^^
They did such a great job of doling out just enough info and exposition without making any of the reveals obvious, so when the truth is revealed, it hits like a train.
Lucy really did remember feeling the actual sun. Her comment about "if my dad found out i destroyed a society to save him, it would break him." UGH only to find
out that is exactly what her dad did to punish her mom. I lived in Vegas for 15 years, including when Fallout: New Vegas came out. I spent so much time wandering
around trying to find little hints of real world locations, tracking down approximate spots I lived/worked etc lol. *Sends you big hugs cuz I knew these reveals would
start a waterfall of tears*
I've been a fan of the Fallout franchise since Fallout 2 came out (I missed fallout 1 and had to go backwards to play that) and have played almost every game set in that universe that has come out (Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel I skipped because it was a console game and Fallout 76 I skipped because it's essentially an MMO).
I love this show. Although not a perfect translation from game to screen, it did a fantastic job with what it did carry over. I have minor qualms with some of what they left out and changed, but the fact that they chose basically four unique, interwoven stories with fantastic actors, great special effects and what seems to be a solid grasp of the Fallout universe really makes up for any shortcomings in my eyes.
I can't believe we're likely to wait upwards of two years for the second season. I can't bloody wait!
The Ghoul used Lucy's finger to pull that trigger....