I received my OnePlus open, and I am really impressed. The previous OnePlus (8 - 10) devices always felt like they lacked something (camera, wireless charging, boring design). Even though the open doesn't have wireless charging, it has a lot more going for it. I was skeptical buying a folding phone but I'm happy I did.
The Open looks good. I think they are going to force Samsung to step up their game. I think one other thing that will give Samsung an advantage that I didn't hear you say anything about is trade in deals. Samsung always has deals so that $100 price difference is negligible to meaningless.
Actually, one plus is offering some pretty good trade-in deals. They are offering $200 on any cell phone in any condition. In addition, I checked the value for a trade in of my 11 and they are offering nearly $800. Although, I love my 11 and I have no interest in trading it. I want to use this phone for a few years. It's probably the most satisfying device I've ever owned.
@@zevahc3928 yeah, the trade-in deals don't look bad. Of course, I'm really only interested in factory unlocked devices. I don't know what the carriers will eventually offer.
The main issues with oneplus open is no direct carrier support, historically poor software support, unknown warranty support. You add all those things up and it's essentially a no-go. You won't see anything reactive by Samsung for at least 2 generations since that's how long it usually takes to make significant design changes.
It is. It's a beast. I wouldn't trade it for any other phone out there right now. The Open has a brighter display, lower cost for the same storage, the outside display is not freakishly narrow, the predictive text for swiping and texting is a lot better as well, also, the hinge on the open has about half the moving parts on its hinge compared to the Z Fold and the Pixel Fold, etc.
@@powgee22 , cheap brand. If I were you I would look up the difference between cheap and inexpensive and then use the right word. One Plus is not a cheap brand. It does tend to be inexpensive. if you're saying it's cheap because it has midrange phones that are inexpensive, like the Nord, then I guess by that logic, so does Samsung and most other phone makers. Which would mean they are cheap as well. The One Plus open uses one of the best processors that there is right now the 8 Gen 2. It has 16, not 12 GB of RAM. It has 2,800 nits at peak brightness, much higher than Apple's, Samsung's or Google's phones. It also costs hundreds less for the same storage of 512 GB. I have the phone and have had it for a couple of days. There is nothing cheap about it. It is definitely a high end premium feeling phone. The Z Fold 5 is way too narrow and almost unusable. The crease in the Z Fold 5 and the Pixel Fold is right there in your face, whereas the crease in the OnePlus Open is barely noticeable. I have played around with the other two and they are not nearly as nice as the Oneplus Open. Just something to think about before you pass judgement on the Open.
Since all reviewers do not have the ability to assess long term durability or software update reliability we only get a 50% of a review comparison. Also since the bulk of people get phones through a carrier it really benefits Samsung. Also the crease usually gets worse over time with most phones except samsung stays the same over time.
I hope Samsung don't change the form factor. I like how easy the phone is to use single handed when closed, and if i needed a bigger screen i just simply open it. Having a front screen the size of a normal phone is great but it doesn't encourage using the main display. Then people will just complain that they rarely open the phone and that the company should've just produced a normal/compact phone.
Oppo and Oneplus merge. So it's essentially the same company now. OPPO has the same phone call OPPO N3 fold. So it would make sense for the pen to work.
Had the fold4 for a couple of months but got rid of it because of the front screen and now here in Australia we are finally getting our 2nd foldable, the OPPO Find N3 so I’m excited 😊. Plus now that it also supports the OPPO find N2 pen it makes a perfect combo
Actually, the N3 and the OnePlus open are the exact same phone. It is just being released under two different names. I suspect that the open will have pen support in the Android 14 update.
Had the fold 3. Got rid of it after 3 months due to micro cracks in the center crease. Have been hesitant to buy another fold since. But I saw the one plus open and pre-order it. Hopefully, it doesn't have the same issue.
I still love my Fold 5 but man, with each passing day and video I watch, I'm slowly waning in my desire to hang on. OneUI and Dex are probably the two things... Do you think that Samsung will do something better/major with the 6? OnePlus has definitely come out swinging (well, I mean, it's not their first rodeo but their first US entry). For some reason, I can't seem to see the Fold 5 as an option to trade in for the OnePlus (yes, I did consider it hehe). I love my Sammy but man, this device is just something else...
I'm just curious when people bring up DeX as a benefit of Samsung's Fold phones and whether those people are actually using it even periodically or they just use that as a unique feature of the Samsung Fold phones knowing that it really has no equal on other Fold phones. Genuinely curious here.
@@ArthurZakaryan23 I think for most it's a "only Samsung has this feature" thing. Some do use it regularly. I have and do but personally occasionally but does come in very handy at times.
I have the Z fold and now in an eco system of Samsung. I like the OnePlus brand because I STILL have my OnePlus 7pro. Don't use it but it's on 12 and runs fine still. But it's Samsung for me and I want to see how those creases are after about 4 to 6 months. Great video as usual though.😊
MKBHD mentioned that his phone already has screen damage, and it's as simple as folding and unfolding it. Some testers I watched on RUclips said that the hinge of the OnePlus isn't as premium as the Fold 5. They found that testing, opening, and folding both devices yielded similar results, for example, the 180-degree angle, but the OnePlus didn't seem as sturdy.
Have them both... Hardware on Open is way better, Samsung software is marginally better. If the Open had stylus support and wireless charging, Open would be better hands down. Since the Open doesn't have those two things, it makes it a close one. I still choose the Open overall.
The Open actually does have stylus support. Someone on reddit tried it with the Oppo pen on both the inner and outer displays and it worked perfectly. So far the Open is impressing me much more than the Z Fold 5 I have here.
This phone is incredible. No real drawbacks. So I'm going to nit pick. - No Wireless charging is not a real negative because fast charging and the 4800mah battery are more than worth the trade. - No Snap dragon 8 g3. We always want the latest and greatest especially in a $1700.00 flagship that will be kept for 3-4 years. I would have wanted the gen3 chip being that it is tangibly faster with similar to better efficiency vs the gen2 and the gen3 chip is launching soon in other flagship devices. However gen 2 is no slouch in efficiency or performance - Camera Bump. While beautiful, its large and it's protrusion is a tad annoying, especially when you sit or lay it down. The stock case helps just a tad, but I'm most concerned about scratches and impacts damaging the lens or lens bezel. Everything else is top tier no complaints. I'm loving and enjoying mine more everyday.
The Open does support a stylus but only the OPEL2201 OPPO Pen which is hard to get in the US. Hopefully OnePlus will release one for the US maybe with a handy case like the Zfold has.
The Open looks like the best foldable I've seen yet. The only real gripes I would have is the fact that they released it late in the year with Android 13. If they had waited a few weeks and released it with Android 14 you could make the most of it's four years of OS updates. In addition, a slight delay in its release could have afforded them the time to give the device the Gen 3 chipset. This used to be the same strategy when they offered the T variance later in the year. On the other hand, have they done that it would have probably coincided too closely with the release of the 12. Still, if I were interested in a folding device this would be my choice.
Totally, 100% agree. I am ditching Samsung after 6 years. All about the fron screen. Although the rest of the phone and the multitasking looks pretty epic. Also, all my Folds (4 of them) cracked or broke down the centre.
@@armanis1234 is it? All the reviews I've seen say the displays on the Open are some of the best they've ever seen. Certainly the brightest. Opens internal is less reflective with almost no crease. Can't imagine the S23 has any advantage that would be a deal breaker.
I understood that the ONE+ open also has Active Stylus support. Then the choice is no longer difficult for me. I now have a Surface Duo 2 and because of the screen ratio, I never made the step samsung fold 5. the ONE+ open is already a bit closer and is much more interesting as an alternative to replace my Surface Duo 2.
I'm not sure about the newer One Plus phones, but back in the day I really wanted a One Plus, so I bought the One Plus 7 plus. I loved the hardware, but hated the software experience. A lot of lag, all kinds of problems, so that's what holds me back from buying a One Plus again.
I have now both z fold 5 and oneplus open lol. I just dont get why samsung is in trouble when they have more features than oneplus open. The only advantages that open have is it has a bigger screen and bigger battery. I bet if samsung has the same screen as the open then people would get samsung. Lets see how durable, compatible and reliable open is before we say samsung is in trouble lol.
I saw that the stylus pen from Oppo works flawlessly with it. Both screens support it. If you can import one, then you'll have a strong comparison going.
Bro can't even compare the crease on this to the pixel fold. The pixel crease is WAY worse. I literally can barely feel it on the open even when I try to find it. I've yet to even notice the crease on even a white background. It's a way better experience all the way around on this phone. I got the black one and it's sweeeet
It feels like a lot of people are saying that "Samsung is resting on their laurels" and although some of that may be true, there is more to product management and product delivery when it comes to such a big company with many different products. Samsung practically did nothing new ever since the Note came out in 2014 for a long time. They just refined their flagship "bar" phones a little bit each year. However, behind the scenes, they were working on their flexible OLED display to eventually come out with the Flip and the Fold. Samsung also pioneers displays for many, many other phones and devices as well. So yeah, it may seem like nothing is happening on the surface but they still dedicate time and resources into innovating something new. It could be that there is not much they can really do with their current Flip and Fold aside from making small changes here and there to stay on top of the competition, or they can use that resource to create something completely new again in 4-5 years.
@@TechOdysseyI've learned that I have to test out stuff, because, surprisingly, even people within the company may not know. I worked at several tech companies in SV during the late 90s and was always surprised about stuff we weren't made aware of.
Samsung is not in trouble 😂... people buy their phones also for the software what it runs on it and Samsung One UI for me is unbeatable. I like android and I wanted to try so many times different brands, but when I checked them in real life..just felt like way behind what samsung offers. People could also change from Apple if they only would look for the form factor as all phones look the same (exept foldables) but they still stick with IOS.
...umm...WE DO REMEMBER THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE OUTSIDE SCREEN ISN'T TO GIVE YOU A BIG SCREEN. IT DOES WHAT IT'S SUPPOSE TO AND WHEN YOU REALLY NEED TO MULTI-TASK AND ALL THAT JAZZ, YOU OPEN TO THE BIGGER SCREEN 🤦🤦♀️Who will buy a folding phone that they don't need to open? 🤔🤔🤔 just saying
Ehh ,but how's the UI on the one plus??? Also the crease on the fold has definitely gotten better after each iteration! I don't know why nobody notices that. Literally pull out the fold 2,3,4,5 you'll understand that the crease has gotten much better.
Oppo Find N2 pen can be used for the OnePlus Open or Oppo Find N3 and it can be used for external and internal screen as well as other Bluetooth function. Maybe you can review this and try this in an update and review
Everyone's on OP 🥜... them things will soon start breaking apart 😅 nothing like the z fold in the foldable market. I'd take samsungs software, hardware and reliability any day.
One big difference over here in Europe: the Oneplus Open sells for about $300.- MORE than the 512GB Samsung Galaxy Fold 5, and thus unfortunately won't pose any real threat to Samsung sales here...
The fact that Oppo/bbk electronics perfected it in China first with the n fold for 2 years before launching the third generation worldwide was a fantastic way to go
@@ChrisJohannsen actually, they are not a sub-brand of oppo. In fact, oppo, oneplus, vevo and realme are all under the same corporate umbrella and are sister brands. All four brands function independently of each other but, occasionally they collaborate when it's appropriate.
The thing is it has only just come out so nobody can judge durability yet. It doesn't have proper water protection which is a big deal. I was surprised at how much I was okay with the smaller front screen on the fold 5. Samsungs text prediction is much better then apples. This is my first foldable coming as a long term apple user and it's been tough to migrate onto android but I am very impressed with the fold 5.
I feel like if the OnePlus Open have the 1TB option like the Oppo find N3 (same phone, I think) it would be great for someone like me that use there phone as a emulation device as well. I feel like 512GB is too small of storage if I were to store media and video games. I hope the next versions of foldable have larger storage options maybe like 2TB if possible but that could be wishful thinking since these devices does not support micro SD. Anyways been a fan of the channel and keep up that good work. Cheers!
Pssssss... Oppo find n2 (the previous generation) had a Bluetooth pen. If you import it, it works on this phone! And on both screens!!! Major L to Samsung, ngl.
I was gonna get a Oneplus Open except I couldn't pass up the trade in deal of $1,000 for my current phone for the fold 5. Only if T-Mobile offered the Oneplus open
I think OnePlus avoiding being carrier subsidized is a great mistake. If they want to become mainstream, they have to appeal to all financial sectors. I've been with OnePlus since the 6T, and still to this day when I show someone my phone they asked me who makes that phone? No one in America knows oneplus
Too soon to say. I would like to wait few more month to see durable, battery life, software update, speed test, drop test... in real life, not just on many YT "talk show" channels in the last couple day.
I like the one plus open better the green color is beautiful and I like the circle camera shape different than what we are used to at this point great job from one plus and the first version Watch out 🤔
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Id like to think i inspired the idea for this video by my question on the live stream the other night lol. That may not be the case, but thats what im telling myself
@@MrK1976 Don't know if it's more time using it but if something, the software. And believe it or not I love to change themes and there is none on Oxygen.
Really loving the Oneplus open. It is hands down the best foldable I've ever owned. Only thing that I do not like is the OnePlus website/Application and their customer service. It did not let me apply the $50 coupon when checking out and now my Account has nothing under my orders tab. Even the original receipt I received through email is blank whenever I go to it. Based on the research I did online this is a very common thing for people that have traded in devices. Sent out my trade in device to them today. A bit shady that they are not allowing me to see my original receipt or is is just a glitch in their system. I'd be curious to know if this has happened to anyone else. But the device itself is a home run for sure. Form factor, software are superb. Hopefully some of the bigger case manufacturers will start making cases for the open soon.
Speaking off display smudges... my pixel 8 pro is perfect, flawless, except.... I have a few of these spots that wont go away. If you clean the screen thoroughly, they arent visible for a few min but then reappear ecactly as they were. My p8pro is brand new. Do you have any experience with this?
Diving in and discussing: " being a generation older , I missed growing up " fiddling with tech . I work 6 days/wk still. Can you explain in what scenario you would need 16 gb of ram vs 12 gb? . ...Also , I took your advice and opted for a zfold3 vs a zfold4 or 5 . ...They are too similar and $650 was worth the " dipping a toe" into the foldable experience. ( I bet the zfold6 is wider n kicks ass). I was disappointed in the open. My feeling. And , never buy 1st generation - too new . So , I'll pass on the open and red headed step child. ... whose Janelle...not that chubby blonde from my college days.
The OnePlus Open is the exact same phone as the Oppo Find N3 and can use the Oppo stylus both on the on the outer and inner screens. The issue is importing the Oppo stylus. It is expensive. But the phone is stylus ready.
I just got my Z Fold 5 but I would consider the OnePlus open if it had a 1tb option and stylus support. My candy bar phone is the Xperia 1 V which I believe I can get more natural pics with than my Z Fold but I am able to multitask better with the Z Fold. I'm wondering if the OnePlus Open will be optimized for multitasking as well as the Z Fold. I heard the screen can't change aspect ratio like the Z Fold. That's a great feature when multitasking.
I'm a big fan of my Fold 4's form factor. Closed is great for one-handed use. Open is great for 2-handed use. The only thing I would want it wider when closed for, is if my inner screen fails - because if I've got two hands free to use my phone I'm gonna open it, and if i don't have two hands free then I want to be able to reach the left side with my thumb. Also the S Pen is nice to have. Also I'm not made of money, so I'd be in trouble if I decided I wasn't happy with my current phone every time something new came out.
@durianepicurean6382 I mean, can I technically reach the left side of a bigger phone with my thumb? Yeah. It's just not as comfortable to. I have pretty normal sized hands, just the way I naturally grip a phone makes it easier for me to reach the top and bottom but harder for me to reach the left side. If I do hand gymnastics I can reach the left side while open with one hand - I just would prefer not to do hand gymnastics. And the _comfortable_ reach of my thumb is a hair further than the closed width of the Z Fold.
Hey. I got a problem I hope you can help me with. I bought a 7a for my mom and me and dad have the 6a and 7. We all got android 14 when it first came out. Me and dad updated ours but mom never updated hers. Soo the other day I was out with my mom and I was like give me ur phone and I'll update to 14. Well when I went to her update the 14 update was nowhere to be found. It said android 13 and when I click to update it says it's up to date even when I keep on hitting the update. So the 14 update that was on her phone has went away. Should I just wait or what. I can put beta 14 on there and then not update that and hópefully it will automatically go to stable after 3 months or whatever. Her security is September as well so I dunno what's going on. Any thoughts?
OnePlus Open does support pen, so basically Oppo Find N3 which is same as OnePlus Open but for the Chinese market has a pen which works with OnePlus Open.
Probably not a popular opinion but I actually think I prefer the look and size of the Pixel fold but if I had to pick one it would be the Galaxy fold 5.
If this thing had wireless charging, it'd be hands down the best phone right now (subjectively). Fortunately, Oneplus has always had impeccable wired charging speeds. I have an iPhone 14 Pro and Pixel 7 Pro, but I ditch my Pixel for the Open later this year or early next year.
I have a pixel fold and honestly love it. It fits better in my pocket and my hand when closed than a longer phone like a zfold. Not sure why u feel it's a red headed step child.
I see what you mean. You will basically get to use a Z Fold 5 for very little money in the mean time because nearly all of the cost will go towards the Z Fold 6 with the trade in. And most likely the Z Fold 6 will be similar aspect ratio as the Oneplus Open.
Samsung is in double trouble with BBK Electronics because the OnePlus Open and the Oppo Find N3 are basically the same exact phone where OnePlus is the sister smartphone company to the Oppo company.
I actually just purchased and am using /learning the Honor Magic v2. I like the Oppo, of the two (fold and open), and I've been a samsung loyalist since the Note1. I can't neglect the over seas devices, simply because they're better(even the software). Thinner, more polished, more up to date, cheaper, bigger and more advanced battery tech, and they actually work. I'm speaking mostly regarding my v2, but the majority of the Chinese devices have these advantages. Yes, a few work arounds, but even my folds, I had to do work arounds. And the form factor is simply much better than the folds. And you can get them, in a couple days! Even with the small annoyances(and the support is just as bad as with samsung, if you have a mechanical problem in my experience), it's going to be hard to consider another samsung device. It took me this long, to move from the ecosystem, and now that I have, I will probably keep moving..
Samsung pretty much had a monopoly in the usa in terms of the fold market for 4 years and just got lazy, until finally now the Google fold and now oneplus.
OnePlus did come out swinging and they've nail it. Using lighter material to make the phone body did made the phone lighter and that is necessary and beneficial for consumers hands. The almost invisible crease is very impressive seeing it from my position. 😎💯💯💪🏾👍🏾
I have both devices, if the fold had the one plus outer screen and zoom camera it would be damn near perfect. I like the open alot but they missed the mark on a few things so im returning mine. The firdt two items are 1000% dealbreakers for me No 5g in canada on rogers and no option for it in settings No wifi calling Cannot turn off screen split mode in settings, email and messages Cannot alter home screen layout rows and columns Have to have the same layout on inner and outer screen Gallery app is useless cant have albums Cant watch you tube on outer screen with it open Camera bump is really intrusive..way to big No 8k video
On the contrary, samsung fold 5 sells cheaper by about $600 where I live. That itself is a no brainer to get the fold 5. Also thanks to Samsung's solid trade in programme.
Oh Sammy Sammy… You’re in for big trouble…The OnePlus Open has even support for an s-pen from OPPO… You really need to step up next year with the Fold 6…
I received my OnePlus open, and I am really impressed. The previous OnePlus (8 - 10) devices always felt like they lacked something (camera, wireless charging, boring design). Even though the open doesn't have wireless charging, it has a lot more going for it. I was skeptical buying a folding phone but I'm happy I did.
Yup. They nailed it this time! Very impressed
Got my open yesterday. I'm just amazed how light and thin it is. Loving it
getting mine tomorrow . switching from iphone 14 pro
@@Rajan-yd7rw I had the fold 3 and fold 5, this phone blows them out the water imo. There are a few annoyances but it's so fun using the phone
@@Rajan-yd7rwI have a 14 pro as well, how does the open compare in your opinion?
It's not documented, but the OnePlus open supports a stylus on both the inside screen and the outside cover screen.
Yep! Get the Oppo pen.
The Open looks good. I think they are going to force Samsung to step up their game.
I think one other thing that will give Samsung an advantage that I didn't hear you say anything about is trade in deals. Samsung always has deals so that $100 price difference is negligible to meaningless.
Actually, one plus is offering some pretty good trade-in deals. They are offering $200 on any cell phone in any condition. In addition, I checked the value for a trade in of my 11 and they are offering nearly $800. Although, I love my 11 and I have no interest in trading it. I want to use this phone for a few years. It's probably the most satisfying device I've ever owned.
@@dr.fitprofessor4363 wow. That's pretty good. I hadn't heard of anything.
@@zevahc3928 yeah, the trade-in deals don't look bad. Of course, I'm really only interested in factory unlocked devices. I don't know what the carriers will eventually offer.
The main issues with oneplus open is no direct carrier support, historically poor software support, unknown warranty support. You add all those things up and it's essentially a no-go. You won't see anything reactive by Samsung for at least 2 generations since that's how long it usually takes to make significant design changes.
@@dr.fitprofessor4363 ahhh. Carrier insurance, carrier deals on phones. Of course you'll make up excuses to route your info to the PRC.
The Open looks like one hell of a phone.
I'm glad I waited and got mine instead of the z fold.
It is. It's a beast. I wouldn't trade it for any other phone out there right now. The Open has a brighter display, lower cost for the same storage, the outside display is not freakishly narrow, the predictive text for swiping and texting is a lot better as well, also, the hinge on the open has about half the moving parts on its hinge compared to the Z Fold and the Pixel Fold, etc.
$1800 for a cheap brand? Pass
@@powgee22 , cheap brand. If I were you I would look up the difference between cheap and inexpensive and then use the right word. One Plus is not a cheap brand. It does tend to be inexpensive. if you're saying it's cheap because it has midrange phones that are inexpensive, like the Nord, then I guess by that logic, so does Samsung and most other phone makers. Which would mean they are cheap as well. The One Plus open uses one of the best processors that there is right now the 8 Gen 2. It has 16, not 12 GB of RAM. It has 2,800 nits at peak brightness, much higher than Apple's, Samsung's or Google's phones. It also costs hundreds less for the same storage of 512 GB. I have the phone and have had it for a couple of days. There is nothing cheap about it. It is definitely a high end premium feeling phone. The Z Fold 5 is way too narrow and almost unusable. The crease in the Z Fold 5 and the Pixel Fold is right there in your face, whereas the crease in the OnePlus Open is barely noticeable. I have played around with the other two and they are not nearly as nice as the Oneplus Open. Just something to think about before you pass judgement on the Open.
@@powgee22it is! I'm loving mine and there's no other phone in the US I'll take over the OnePlus Open.
I have both and the Z fold 5 is still more premium feeling in my opinion.
I'm battling back and forth however the sim keeps landing in the Z fold
ZF can't be beat when it comes to S pen. It's no comparison. The oppo pen is a joke.
I love one plus. My only real gripe is that they don't send updates like Samsung, Google, and apple.
Since all reviewers do not have the ability to assess long term durability or software update reliability we only get a 50% of a review comparison. Also since the bulk of people get phones through a carrier it really benefits Samsung. Also the crease usually gets worse over time with most phones except samsung stays the same over time.
I have heard lot of that for Samsung. People are unhappy
I hope Samsung don't change the form factor. I like how easy the phone is to use single handed when closed, and if i needed a bigger screen i just simply open it.
Having a front screen the size of a normal phone is great but it doesn't encourage using the main display. Then people will just complain that they rarely open the phone and that the company should've just produced a normal/compact phone.
Oneplus open is just as easy to hold one handed.
It is proved that Open is compatible with the OPPO pen, which is not for sale in US. That makes me even more tempted to switch to Open.
Oppo and Oneplus merge. So it's essentially the same company now. OPPO has the same phone call OPPO N3 fold. So it would make sense for the pen to work.
i know you had a poll on types of videos that are preferable; these conversational type of videos are truly awesome in engagement. keep it up!
Glad you like them! Thank you.
Had the fold4 for a couple of months but got rid of it because of the front screen and now here in Australia we are finally getting our 2nd foldable, the OPPO Find N3 so I’m excited 😊. Plus now that it also supports the OPPO find N2 pen it makes a perfect combo
I wish Oppo was available in the US.
@@thundergato84 me too
I'm jealous! We don't get Oppo in the States as far as I'm aware.
Actually, the N3 and the OnePlus open are the exact same phone. It is just being released under two different names. I suspect that the open will have pen support in the Android 14 update.
Had the fold 3. Got rid of it after 3 months due to micro cracks in the center crease. Have been hesitant to buy another fold since. But I saw the one plus open and pre-order it. Hopefully, it doesn't have the same issue.
I still love my Fold 5 but man, with each passing day and video I watch, I'm slowly waning in my desire to hang on. OneUI and Dex are probably the two things... Do you think that Samsung will do something better/major with the 6? OnePlus has definitely come out swinging (well, I mean, it's not their first rodeo but their first US entry). For some reason, I can't seem to see the Fold 5 as an option to trade in for the OnePlus (yes, I did consider it hehe). I love my Sammy but man, this device is just something else...
I'm just curious when people bring up DeX as a benefit of Samsung's Fold phones and whether those people are actually using it even periodically or they just use that as a unique feature of the Samsung Fold phones knowing that it really has no equal on other Fold phones. Genuinely curious here.
@@ArthurZakaryan23 I think for most it's a "only Samsung has this feature" thing. Some do use it regularly. I have and do but personally occasionally but does come in very handy at times.
4:3 internal screen proportions are much better for photos and docisk media
Oneplus UI sucks, try to use bigger widgets on internal screen you cant
Great video!! I think the Z Fold 5 is the best phone in my opinion but of Samsung warranty.
Why aren't a lot of tech reviewers comparing the Open to the Google Fold?
Watch my pixel fold video from yesterday and you’ll see. lol.
The pixel fold is a piece of trash thats why lol. Pretty sad that oneplus absolutely destroyed google with the open makes google look like clowns
😂 because there's no comparison the one plus open destroys the pixel fold
I have the Z fold and now in an eco system of Samsung. I like the OnePlus brand because I STILL have my OnePlus 7pro. Don't use it but it's on 12 and runs fine still. But it's Samsung for me and I want to see how those creases are after about 4 to 6 months. Great video as usual though.😊
MKBHD mentioned that his phone already has screen damage, and it's as simple as folding and unfolding it. Some testers I watched on RUclips said that the hinge of the OnePlus isn't as premium as the Fold 5. They found that testing, opening, and folding both devices yielded similar results, for example, the 180-degree angle, but the OnePlus didn't seem as sturdy.
Have them both... Hardware on Open is way better, Samsung software is marginally better. If the Open had stylus support and wireless charging, Open would be better hands down. Since the Open doesn't have those two things, it makes it a close one. I still choose the Open overall.
The Open actually does have stylus support. Someone on reddit tried it with the Oppo pen on both the inner and outer displays and it worked perfectly. So far the Open is impressing me much more than the Z Fold 5 I have here.
@@Brendon471 Thank you, yeah I'm looking to buy one but it appears to be like 130 dollars, wow.
This phone is incredible. No real drawbacks.
So I'm going to nit pick.
- No Wireless charging is not a real negative because fast charging and the 4800mah battery are more than worth the trade.
- No Snap dragon 8 g3. We always want the latest and greatest especially in a $1700.00 flagship that will be kept for 3-4 years. I would have wanted the gen3 chip being that it is tangibly faster with similar to better efficiency vs the gen2 and the gen3 chip is launching soon in other flagship devices. However gen 2 is no slouch in efficiency or performance
- Camera Bump. While beautiful, its large and it's protrusion is a tad annoying, especially when you sit or lay it down. The stock case helps just a tad, but I'm most concerned about scratches and impacts damaging the lens or lens bezel.
Everything else is top tier no complaints. I'm loving and enjoying mine more everyday.
Nah hdr shit only one complaint
The Open does support a stylus but only the OPEL2201 OPPO Pen which is hard to get in the US. Hopefully OnePlus will release one for the US maybe with a handy case like the Zfold has.
The Open looks like the best foldable I've seen yet. The only real gripes I would have is the fact that they released it late in the year with Android 13. If they had waited a few weeks and released it with Android 14 you could make the most of it's four years of OS updates. In addition, a slight delay in its release could have afforded them the time to give the device the Gen 3 chipset. This used to be the same strategy when they offered the T variance later in the year. On the other hand, have they done that it would have probably coincided too closely with the release of the 12. Still, if I were interested in a folding device this would be my choice.
The problem with the One Plus Open is what if something happens to the screen then what do you do with it
Some people say that the Oneplus Open accepts an stylus just like this twin brother, Oppo Find N3. Please check and buy it, if possible. Thanks!
From what I have heard the Oppo Find N3 stylus works with it, but I'm not buying it.
I own the s23 ultra and never use the S pen. What makes me want the OnePlus open is that damn front screen...it feels normal and that's key for me.
Totally, 100% agree. I am ditching Samsung after 6 years. All about the fron screen. Although the rest of the phone and the multitasking looks pretty epic. Also, all my Folds (4 of them) cracked or broke down the centre.
S23 ultra display still better over oneplus
@@armanis1234 is it? All the reviews I've seen say the displays on the Open are some of the best they've ever seen. Certainly the brightest. Opens internal is less reflective with almost no crease. Can't imagine the S23 has any advantage that would be a deal breaker.
I should clarify the OnePlus open will be a second phone. I carry two. S23 ultra will be the main still.
I'm not a foldable guy, but if I were it'd be the One +. Nice comparison.
Thanks a lot. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching.
I understood that the ONE+ open also has Active Stylus support. Then the choice is no longer difficult for me. I now have a Surface Duo 2 and because of the screen ratio, I never made the step samsung fold 5. the ONE+ open is already a bit closer and is much more interesting as an alternative to replace my Surface Duo 2.
I'm not sure about the newer One Plus phones, but back in the day I really wanted a One Plus, so I bought the One Plus 7 plus. I loved the hardware, but hated the software experience. A lot of lag, all kinds of problems, so that's what holds me back from buying a One Plus again.
I have now both z fold 5 and oneplus open lol. I just dont get why samsung is in trouble when they have more features than oneplus open. The only advantages that open have is it has a bigger screen and bigger battery. I bet if samsung has the same screen as the open then people would get samsung. Lets see how durable, compatible and reliable open is before we say samsung is in trouble lol.
Better crease, better brightness, better price, better cameras, better charging speed. It's also Oppo's third gen foldable and proven more reliable.
The camera hardware is superior on the 1+, but the results are not showing that superior advantage except for the zoom and interior camera.
I saw that the stylus pen from Oppo works flawlessly with it. Both screens support it. If you can import one, then you'll have a strong comparison going.
Open has Spen as well if you use the oppo find N2/3 stylus and you can use it on the front screen as well and the inner
Bro can't even compare the crease on this to the pixel fold. The pixel crease is WAY worse. I literally can barely feel it on the open even when I try to find it. I've yet to even notice the crease on even a white background. It's a way better experience all the way around on this phone. I got the black one and it's sweeeet
It feels like a lot of people are saying that "Samsung is resting on their laurels" and although some of that may be true, there is more to product management and product delivery when it comes to such a big company with many different products. Samsung practically did nothing new ever since the Note came out in 2014 for a long time. They just refined their flagship "bar" phones a little bit each year. However, behind the scenes, they were working on their flexible OLED display to eventually come out with the Flip and the Fold. Samsung also pioneers displays for many, many other phones and devices as well. So yeah, it may seem like nothing is happening on the surface but they still dedicate time and resources into innovating something new. It could be that there is not much they can really do with their current Flip and Fold aside from making small changes here and there to stay on top of the competition, or they can use that resource to create something completely new again in 4-5 years.
Mr. T-O, im surprised you didn't talk about the "stylus support" of the One plus Open, other reviewers have. Great review as always.
If I knew about it I would. When we asked OnePlus in the Q&A they specifically said no, it didn’t. So this is news to me.
@@TechOdysseyI've learned that I have to test out stuff, because, surprisingly, even people within the company may not know. I worked at several tech companies in SV during the late 90s and was always surprised about stuff we weren't made aware of.
I trust Samsung more as their hardware/software quality is better than OnePlus.
I guess Steve Balmer was right about pens and Steve Jobs was wrong.😂
Samsung is not in trouble 😂... people buy their phones also for the software what it runs on it and Samsung One UI for me is unbeatable. I like android and I wanted to try so many times different brands, but when I checked them in real life..just felt like way behind what samsung offers. People could also change from Apple if they only would look for the form factor as all phones look the same (exept foldables) but they still stick with IOS.
...umm...WE DO REMEMBER THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE OUTSIDE SCREEN ISN'T TO GIVE YOU A BIG SCREEN. IT DOES WHAT IT'S SUPPOSE TO AND WHEN YOU REALLY NEED TO MULTI-TASK AND ALL THAT JAZZ, YOU OPEN TO THE BIGGER SCREEN 🤦🤦♀️Who will buy a folding phone that they don't need to open? 🤔🤔🤔 just saying
Excellent video. Samsung will either have to redesign their Folds or make a Fold Ultra version to keep up with the competition.
Ehh ,but how's the UI on the one plus??? Also the crease on the fold has definitely gotten better after each iteration! I don't know why nobody notices that. Literally pull out the fold 2,3,4,5 you'll understand that the crease has gotten much better.
Nobody said it didn’t get better. But it’s still worse than the Open, which is the point.
You can use a style pen on inner and outer screen. Oppo pen. I have the Oppo N3 1tb in red
Oppo Find N2 pen can be used for the OnePlus Open or Oppo Find N3 and it can be used for external and internal screen as well as other Bluetooth function. Maybe you can review this and try this in an update and review
Everyone's on OP 🥜... them things will soon start breaking apart 😅 nothing like the z fold in the foldable market. I'd take samsungs software, hardware and reliability any day.
Apparently Samsungs 🥜 are on your chin.
One big difference over here in Europe: the Oneplus Open sells for about $300.- MORE than the 512GB Samsung Galaxy Fold 5, and thus unfortunately won't pose any real threat to Samsung sales here...
The fact that Oppo/bbk electronics perfected it in China first with the n fold for 2 years before launching the third generation worldwide was a fantastic way to go
Although, it is also true that Oppo and oneplus did a legitimate collaboration for the N3 and the open which is actually the same device.
The first Find N was already better than the Z Fold
@@dr.fitprofessor4363what? OnePlus is a sub brand of Oppo. Oppo is the only company involved here and the Find N3 is identical.
@@ChrisJohannsen actually, they are not a sub-brand of oppo. In fact, oppo, oneplus, vevo and realme are all under the same corporate umbrella and are sister brands. All four brands function independently of each other but, occasionally they collaborate when it's appropriate.
Absolutely
The thing is it has only just come out so nobody can judge durability yet. It doesn't have proper water protection which is a big deal. I was surprised at how much I was okay with the smaller front screen on the fold 5. Samsungs text prediction is much better then apples. This is my first foldable coming as a long term apple user and it's been tough to migrate onto android but I am very impressed with the fold 5.
It has IPX4. Don’t take your folding phone in the shower or pool and it will be fine. Pretty simple stuff.
I feel like if the OnePlus Open have the 1TB option like the Oppo find N3 (same phone, I think) it would be great for someone like me that use there phone as a emulation device as well. I feel like 512GB is too small of storage if I were to store media and video games. I hope the next versions of foldable have larger storage options maybe like 2TB if possible but that could be wishful thinking since these devices does not support micro SD. Anyways been a fan of the channel and keep up that good work. Cheers!
@@durianepicurean true, but I would like to have it expand storage without an attachment if possible or have large storage variates if they can
@@durianepicurean ah, I know what you are talking about. I made a video on that before 👍
@@durianepicurean sorry about that, I would put a link to my video but I feel like that is not a good thing to do since we are on tech oddessy's video
Pssssss... Oppo find n2 (the previous generation) had a Bluetooth pen. If you import it, it works on this phone! And on both screens!!! Major L to Samsung, ngl.
Do you prefer the glass screen protectors over other? Ive been worried about their durability and scratch resistance.
Me too. I'm also concerned about having to send the phone in to have the protectors replaced.
I was gonna get a Oneplus Open except I couldn't pass up the trade in deal of $1,000 for my current phone for the fold 5. Only if T-Mobile offered the Oneplus open
That's a good deal. I don't blame you at all.
Do they even have other tempered glass screen protectors for the One Plus Open? I don't see any options on Amazon.
I haven’t looked yet. I am assuming someone has made one for the front screen. I could be wrong though. Even if not glass, a film style is fine.
Not sure why people value wireless charging. How is it helpful if it charges your device awfully slow?
I think OnePlus avoiding being carrier subsidized is a great mistake. If they want to become mainstream, they have to appeal to all financial sectors. I've been with OnePlus since the 6T, and still to this day when I show someone my phone they asked me who makes that phone? No one in America knows oneplus
Too soon to say. I would like to wait few more month to see durable, battery life, software update, speed test, drop test... in real life, not just on many YT "talk show" channels in the last couple day.
I like the one plus open better the green color is beautiful and I like the circle camera shape different than what we are used to at this point great job from one plus and the first version Watch out 🤔
Oneplus open can get down to $1200 before any trade-in deals, it could be quite tempting for some of us who are just watching and waiting
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Thank you for the review, I found this video so helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Id like to think i inspired the idea for this video by my question on the live stream the other night lol. That may not be the case, but thats what im telling myself
I traded my fold 4 for the One Plus Open and I'm really really happy. It's a normal phone outside that opens up.❤
Any gripes or things that you preferred more on the fold-4 that's missing from the open?
@@MrK1976 Don't know if it's more time using it but if something, the software. And believe it or not I love to change themes and there is none on Oxygen.
@@josefigueroa4738understood, thank you.
What was the trade-in value they gave you?
@@eli2955 the standard $200 they give plus $800 for the fold. That's $1,000 in total.
Really loving the Oneplus open. It is hands down the best foldable I've ever owned. Only thing that I do not like is the OnePlus website/Application and their customer service. It did not let me apply the $50 coupon when checking out and now my Account has nothing under my orders tab. Even the original receipt I received through email is blank whenever I go to it. Based on the research I did online this is a very common thing for people that have traded in devices. Sent out my trade in device to them today. A bit shady that they are not allowing me to see my original receipt or is is just a glitch in their system. I'd be curious to know if this has happened to anyone else. But the device itself is a home run for sure. Form factor, software are superb. Hopefully some of the bigger case manufacturers will start making cases for the open soon.
Speaking off display smudges... my pixel 8 pro is perfect, flawless, except.... I have a few of these spots that wont go away. If you clean the screen thoroughly, they arent visible for a few min but then reappear ecactly as they were.
My p8pro is brand new. Do you have any experience with this?
Honestly OnePlus has done everything great on this phone. I can choose it everyday. May they include stylus pen 🖊️🖋️
I wish they did.
Diving in and discussing: " being a generation older , I missed growing up " fiddling with tech . I work 6 days/wk still. Can you explain in what scenario you would need 16 gb of ram vs 12 gb? . ...Also , I took your advice and opted for a zfold3 vs a zfold4 or 5 . ...They are too similar and $650 was worth the " dipping a toe" into the foldable experience. ( I bet the zfold6 is wider n kicks ass). I was disappointed in the open. My feeling. And , never buy 1st generation - too new . So , I'll pass on the open and red headed step child. ... whose Janelle...not that chubby blonde from my college days.
Im definitely getting the Oneplus Open once the price drops under $1,000
The OnePlus Open is the exact same phone as the Oppo Find N3 and can use the Oppo stylus both on the on the outer and inner screens. The issue is importing the Oppo stylus. It is expensive. But the phone is stylus ready.
If I'm correct the OnePlus open supports a stylus. But you would most likely have to order it from China.
Waiting on my one plus open to arrive. I bought emerald dusk and it gets here around 21st Nov 🎉
I just got my Z Fold 5 but I would consider the OnePlus open if it had a 1tb option and stylus support. My candy bar phone is the Xperia 1 V which I believe I can get more natural pics with than my Z Fold but I am able to multitask better with the Z Fold. I'm wondering if the OnePlus Open will be optimized for multitasking as well as the Z Fold. I heard the screen can't change aspect ratio like the Z Fold. That's a great feature when multitasking.
I'm a big fan of my Fold 4's form factor. Closed is great for one-handed use. Open is great for 2-handed use. The only thing I would want it wider when closed for, is if my inner screen fails - because if I've got two hands free to use my phone I'm gonna open it, and if i don't have two hands free then I want to be able to reach the left side with my thumb.
Also the S Pen is nice to have.
Also I'm not made of money, so I'd be in trouble if I decided I wasn't happy with my current phone every time something new came out.
@durianepicurean6382 I mean, can I technically reach the left side of a bigger phone with my thumb? Yeah. It's just not as comfortable to.
I have pretty normal sized hands, just the way I naturally grip a phone makes it easier for me to reach the top and bottom but harder for me to reach the left side. If I do hand gymnastics I can reach the left side while open with one hand - I just would prefer not to do hand gymnastics. And the _comfortable_ reach of my thumb is a hair further than the closed width of the Z Fold.
@@durianepicurean I suppose? Never had that problem
Hey. I got a problem I hope you can help me with. I bought a 7a for my mom and me and dad have the 6a and 7. We all got android 14 when it first came out. Me and dad updated ours but mom never updated hers. Soo the other day I was out with my mom and I was like give me ur phone and I'll update to 14. Well when I went to her update the 14 update was nowhere to be found. It said android 13 and when I click to update it says it's up to date even when I keep on hitting the update. So the 14 update that was on her phone has went away. Should I just wait or what. I can put beta 14 on there and then not update that and hópefully it will automatically go to stable after 3 months or whatever. Her security is September as well so I dunno what's going on. Any thoughts?
OnePlus Open does support pen, so basically Oppo Find N3 which is same as OnePlus Open but for the Chinese market has a pen which works with OnePlus Open.
It does support a stylus
Probably not a popular opinion but I actually think I prefer the look and size of the Pixel fold but if I had to pick one it would be the Galaxy fold 5.
If this thing had wireless charging, it'd be hands down the best phone right now (subjectively). Fortunately, Oneplus has always had impeccable wired charging speeds. I have an iPhone 14 Pro and Pixel 7 Pro, but I ditch my Pixel for the Open later this year or early next year.
I would be afraid of scratching the lens cover on the One Plus
I have a pixel fold and honestly love it. It fits better in my pocket and my hand when closed than a longer phone like a zfold. Not sure why u feel it's a red headed step child.
I hope they add a TPU case for the Open that hides that camera bump. Its pretty massive....otherwise its the one to beat!
I would get the Z Fold 5 over the One Plus Open, simply so i can trade in the 5 for the Z Fold 6.
Not many people trade in and. It new $1800 phones every year
I see what you mean. You will basically get to use a Z Fold 5 for very little money in the mean time because nearly all of the cost will go towards the Z Fold 6 with the trade in. And most likely the Z Fold 6 will be similar aspect ratio as the Oneplus Open.
@@jasonculver3516 Well yeah because I know Samsung isn't gonna offer much for a Oneplus phone and I have more brand trust in Samsung.
@TechOdyssey what network carrier are you using?
ATT
@@TechOdyssey thanks for the response!! Will be ordering mine soon! Will you be doing a case comparison when more cases come out?
Samsung is in double trouble with BBK Electronics because the OnePlus Open and the Oppo Find N3 are basically the same exact phone where OnePlus is the sister smartphone company to the Oppo company.
Plus, the oneplus is rumored to have have s pen support on front and inner display
That would be cool
@TechOdyssey the oppo n2 had s pen support. It's been said that, that pen will work on the n3 which is identical to the open.
I actually just purchased and am using /learning the Honor Magic v2. I like the Oppo, of the two (fold and open), and I've been a samsung loyalist since the Note1. I can't neglect the over seas devices, simply because they're better(even the software). Thinner, more polished, more up to date, cheaper, bigger and more advanced battery tech, and they actually work. I'm speaking mostly regarding my v2, but the majority of the Chinese devices have these advantages. Yes, a few work arounds, but even my folds, I had to do work arounds. And the form factor is simply much better than the folds. And you can get them, in a couple days!
Even with the small annoyances(and the support is just as bad as with samsung, if you have a mechanical problem in my experience), it's going to be hard to consider another samsung device. It took me this long, to move from the ecosystem, and now that I have, I will probably keep moving..
Hopefully this forces Samsungs hand to make significant upgrades to the fold 6.
I think it will. I hope so anyway
Samsung pretty much had a monopoly in the usa in terms of the fold market for 4 years and just got lazy, until finally now the Google fold and now oneplus.
Gotta see what the z fold 6 brings to the table.
Having a good stylus is paramount for those who edit anything on their phone.
Z Fold 5 just feels way more premium of a phone. I dont know one person with Oneplus phone or whatever brand it is.
Everyone be capping for the one plus open just to hate on the Samsung fold
So I hear that the onplus open is compatible with the oppo pen???
OnePlus did come out swinging and they've nail it. Using lighter material to make the phone body did made the phone lighter and that is necessary and beneficial for consumers hands. The almost invisible crease is very impressive seeing it from my position. 😎💯💯💪🏾👍🏾
With launch day update it adds stylus support from what other users have said
I have both devices, if the fold had the one plus outer screen and zoom camera it would be damn near perfect. I like the open alot but they missed the mark on a few things so im returning mine. The firdt two items are 1000% dealbreakers for me
No 5g in canada on rogers and no option for it in settings
No wifi calling
Cannot turn off screen split mode in settings, email and messages
Cannot alter home screen layout rows and columns
Have to have the same layout on inner and outer screen
Gallery app is useless cant have albums
Cant watch you tube on outer screen with it open
Camera bump is really intrusive..way to big
No 8k video
On the contrary, samsung fold 5 sells cheaper by about $600 where I live. That itself is a no brainer to get the fold 5. Also thanks to Samsung's solid trade in programme.
Oh wait I forgot you had a Z-fold
Rip Samsung. If they don’t extend the front next year. They’re going downhill
Oh Sammy Sammy… You’re in for big trouble…The OnePlus Open has even support for an s-pen from OPPO… You really need to step up next year with the Fold 6…
The OnePlus open is the only foldable I'd even consider. Samsung and Apple especially are just giving us the same old same old every year.
Oneplus open supports oneplus pen. Inside and outside screen 😊
This is a new revelation and it’s the Oppo Pen, which isn’t available internationally
Plus still most people are not buying folds cause of the price
Even with your comparison. I still overall see the fold 5 as a better buy overall. You get more for your money hardware are software wise.
OnePlus open definitely looks much better, even though I am ready yet to jump on foldable phone wagon yet, looking forward to Oneplus 12 release.
The one plus does have stylus support.. Works with the OPPO n3 pen
It does not have official support and someone just discovered this in like the last 24 hours, and the stylus it supports is not sold internationally.