Just to clarify... I understand the GZ devs have said that the difficulty doesn't impact drop rates but how the game plays is completely different in my opinion, how many of you have gotten extra loot from base defence's or got a weapon drop from a machine that shouldn't have dropped it... what they say and how they game plays are two VERY different things in generation zero. so believe what you will but i stand by what i said in this video.
Two Issues. 1. Difficulty does NOT affect machine quality or loot drops. It DOES increase rival spawn rates and reaper chance. 2. DLC packs are on separate spawn table and do not affect normal drops. Both of have been confirmed by GZ devs.
Nice video I had the complete wrong idea with the drop tables thinking to get a better weapon drop I just need to fight a higher tier of the same machine type that dropped the weapon I want, and it's not always the case, I'm just confused with the pitchfork you said on the video about hunters but displayed other machines on the screen ?
oh the gameplay is purely just background footage for the video g has nothing to do with the specific machine you need to farm, that would get very repetitive if i did it that way g :) so dont stress hunters still drop the pitchfork dw
Funny thing is I got an experimental sledge from the vulture. I guess what this means is that the exp meusser and sledge only drop from boss level rivals
Another good way to get non DLC 3 crown + weapons is to complete the weekly challenges. Tick level gives 3 crown, hunter 4 crown and tank level 5 crown. Also attachments.
You can get it exp hammer from vulture, it isn’t exclusive the reaper. Used to be. The only exclusive is exp meusser from vulture. I have gotten it twice from vulture.
Thank you so much. I would love to see a video about modding weapons and which mods are best for each weapon. I highly recommend people wait on dlc weapons until you get all the 5 crowns la of the base weapons. I personally love the. At wad but I have gotten several dozen of them. Probably close to a hundred. Same thing with the com. I love both weapons but have 0
at-wad and the iron condor have a ridiculous spawn rate compared to other weapons which is a pain but also great cause your gonna need the weapon parts from them for augments, but yes i can do a weapon augment video :)
Does difficulty really effect loot pool?? I tried it in the past with little change unless this is a more recent thing, I've looked for info all over and it seems to either vary or not change anything, may have to try my luck and see what it is on max difficulty
gz devs and some people say it doesnt but in my experience it differed a bit, everything else in game is effected by difficulty so it doesnt make sense that drop rate would be any different.
I had the same thing happen where the 6 crown sledge dropped from vulture. My guess is since the vulture was added they made it so both boss exclusive exp weapons could drop from either of the 2 bosses.
Reasons I like the KVM 89 over the KVM 59: 5.56 is far more common and far more plentiful than 7.62. I will not lie 7.62 is a better round when it comes to damage but you won't always have ammo to fuel a weapon that takes 7.62.
the lower damage ones (com-10, racs 12 ect) i use small fryer and hit and run and then for my pm-71 titan toppler with hit and run. i don't bother with most other augments as they don't fit my play style. what do you like using? :)
@ first of thanks for replying i would like to try the reload speed for racs 12 but i need to kill more reapers for the gold augment, just hoping it would work. The rest i think ill try your recommendation thanks man
sure thing but remember clothing isnt something you find its something make and the clothing designs are usually just from completing certain challenges :)
So since i could get an exp weapon from base assaults at any level your tellin me i could be like level 1 or 18 and do a base assault and get a op weapon?
tbh it's a bit of a mixed bag this one because some people say you can some people said you can't, me personally I've always been able to get them below lvl 25, but like i said the likelihood of you at a lower lvl destroying a base assault is low, same with the reaper and vulture yet it can still drop. so just keep that in mind. and honestly exp weapons arent even that good anymore... augmented 5 crowns are where its at
Not a guess because I counted, but not 100% sure, but it is high number. Great video will defiantly help with the grid and with what Bots to take out. Edit: i did have the number typed but then thought it be unfair so I've removed it
@@KilroyPlays i kind of figured that counting was of the table because you said to guess. and while I was counting you though me though a loop, because some times you'd say Crown almost out of know were, and other times you'd just skipped saying it, I think there was a part in the video were you we're going to say Crown, but you stopped your self and just said C, with that said It's crazy that you said it 220 times on the dot, although that's if my counting is correct.
Got the “Meusser” experimental hunting rifle like my second vulture drop. I absolutely loved the gun after using it for a while but then I went to scrap a bunch of weapons for weapon parts and out of nowhere the stupid scraping system scrapped it and now I can’t get another one to drop. Every time I get the experimental hp5 I literally want to break something bc I know I’ll have to grind for 3 more hours to get another vulture….
hahahahaha bro the amount of times ive done that is crazy! i'll be like where's my rpg and the games just gone ahead and scrapped it with all the rest of the junk lol 🤣 to be fair though the exp muesser is only good on the lower difficulties sadly, super overrated on guerrilla
@@KilroyPlays I agree, I’ve grinded the game out and got everything I ever need along with mountains of ammo besides that stupid hunting rifle… after I get it again I’ll probably play the game in adventure difficulty just to have fun. Pls pray I get it I’m going in for another vulture as I type this. P.S. didn’t get it… the Gen Zero gods were against me.😓
Difficultly does not effect loot drops. I have asked the devs multiple times. And this is coming from someone who has all the 5 crown and 6 crown weapons and attachments. There is nothing I don’t have atleast 4 of. It is all just son ur farming the right machiena, and the RNG does its thing. If all you hunt is APOC and speznaz then you will rack up weapons quick. I did all of this on adventure mode and under 250 hours.
The annoying thing is that DLC weapons, at least some of them, have very very high drop rates compared to other weapons. I mean I consistently kill all kinds of machines and I've got no 5 crown S21 or some of the vanilla weapons, but I've had literally hundreds of 5 crown iron condors and dozens upon dozens of 5 crown miniguns.
saying it is one thing but playing the game certainly seems to point in the direction of it does effect drop rates, next they'll tell you that difficulty doesn't determine the drops for base defences or how hard the machines are 🤣🤣
since there are 38 weps id guess round 50 times you say crown. but the devs have admitted difficulty doesnt effect drops, if under lvl 20/25 they wont drop experimentals but thats bout the end of lvl and difficulty limits.
i know they say that but the game plays completely different in my opinion. as for how many times i say crown much more than 50, so far the closest guess was 192 i think
i keep mine on guerrilla much better drops for me, just as they said need to be lvl 25 for experimentals yet i had been getting them for years at lower lvl's from base assaults, gz plays differently for so many people g.
Just to clarify... I understand the GZ devs have said that the difficulty doesn't impact drop rates but how the game plays is completely different in my opinion, how many of you have gotten extra loot from base defence's or got a weapon drop from a machine that shouldn't have dropped it... what they say and how they game plays are two VERY different things in generation zero. so believe what you will but i stand by what i said in this video.
Two Issues.
1. Difficulty does NOT affect machine quality or loot drops. It DOES increase rival spawn rates and reaper chance.
2. DLC packs are on separate spawn table and do not affect normal drops.
Both of have been confirmed by GZ devs.
@BlazeEdge13 well then how come I keep on getting 5 crown iron condors and nothing else😭😭
@@Fexlity Skill Issue
Also, Condors drop from hunters. Y'know the 3rd most common enemy?
yeah, you’d think someone that uploads a lot of generation zero would get basic information correctly like difficulty not affecting loot drops
@BlazeEdge13 As far as everyone should be aware, Reaper no longer "by chance" its a set spawn now through the hatches
difficulty has EVERYTHING to do with it ya spud!! thats like saying difficulty has nothing to do with drop rates from base defences... 🤣
I use the grenade launcher as mainly an emp weapon and then use the lmgs to take the larger meks down quicker
ahhh yeah i forgot im the only person who doesn't emp machines 🤣 my bad
Its 2:22 pm rn and your vids are Always Worth watching keep up
@@Info-p6m agreed
@@Info-p6m it's 1 am for me and I'm watching this lol
thank you sir! glad you enjoyed
this is probably the most helpful video you have made also great vid
glad you found it helpful!
HI kilroy great video my favourite weapon is the pvg 90 (experimental), and you said crown approximatly 213 times
pvg 90 is a whole heap of fun ayy! just running around one taping most machines is epic! and holy moly your so close with that guess!!!!
yes finaly !!! now i know what to dring !
thx man !
Your welcome!
Thanx @KilroyPlays & much appreciated as I know that this would have taken you quite a while to put together for us.... 🙂....
You betcha! Couldn't have done it without a whole lotta coffee ☕️ hope you enjoyed!
I can't believe our Boi made another gen0 vid. I had a big break from this platform.
Can i get some steel for my drill?
How much you need ?
@@Info-p6m 15 more steal lol
you know i would if you were on pc sorry :(
@@KilroyPlays haha lol
Nice video I had the complete wrong idea with the drop tables thinking to get a better weapon drop I just need to fight a higher tier of the same machine type that dropped the weapon I want, and it's not always the case, I'm just confused with the pitchfork you said on the video about hunters but displayed other machines on the screen ?
oh the gameplay is purely just background footage for the video g has nothing to do with the specific machine you need to farm, that would get very repetitive if i did it that way g :) so dont stress hunters still drop the pitchfork dw
Funny thing is I got an experimental sledge from the vulture. I guess what this means is that the exp meusser and sledge only drop from boss level rivals
Does this apply to extended mags as well?
Another good way to get non DLC 3 crown + weapons is to complete the weekly challenges. Tick level gives 3 crown, hunter 4 crown and tank level 5 crown. Also attachments.
yeah the tank section of the weekly challenges give you some amazing rewards
You can get it exp hammer from vulture, it isn’t exclusive the reaper. Used to be. The only exclusive is exp meusser from vulture. I have gotten it twice from vulture.
I FINALLY GOT THE EXPERIMENTAL SLEDGEHAMMER BABY LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO!
Thank you so much.
I would love to see a video about modding weapons and which mods are best for each weapon.
I highly recommend people wait on dlc weapons until you get all the 5 crowns la of the base weapons. I personally love the. At wad but I have gotten several dozen of them. Probably close to a hundred. Same thing with the com. I love both weapons but have 0
at-wad and the iron condor have a ridiculous spawn rate compared to other weapons which is a pain but also great cause your gonna need the weapon parts from them for augments, but yes i can do a weapon augment video :)
what is the best way to get concrete in generation zero
Does difficulty really effect loot pool?? I tried it in the past with little change unless this is a more recent thing, I've looked for info all over and it seems to either vary or not change anything, may have to try my luck and see what it is on max difficulty
gz devs and some people say it doesnt but in my experience it differed a bit, everything else in game is effected by difficulty so it doesnt make sense that drop rate would be any different.
I got the 6 star sledge hammer from the vulture. So it’s not just the reaper. The more ya know
probably just a bug because its always been a reaper exclusive g
I had the same thing happen where the 6 crown sledge dropped from vulture. My guess is since the vulture was added they made it so both boss exclusive exp weapons could drop from either of the 2 bosses.
Reasons I like the KVM 89 over the KVM 59:
5.56 is far more common and far more plentiful than 7.62. I will not lie 7.62 is a better round when it comes to damage but you won't always have ammo to fuel a weapon that takes 7.62.
so does region level affect rival drop rates
region lvl/score only effects the likelihood of a rival spawning in, so high region score/lvl = high chance a machine turns into a rival 🤙
Can i ask which augment you personally use for ur weapon?
the lower damage ones (com-10, racs 12 ect) i use small fryer and hit and run and then for my pm-71 titan toppler with hit and run. i don't bother with most other augments as they don't fit my play style. what do you like using? :)
@ first of thanks for replying i would like to try the reload speed for racs 12 but i need to kill more reapers for the gold augment, just hoping it would work. The rest i think ill try your recommendation thanks man
yeah a lot of people like the reload speed or increased ammo capacity for the sacs-12
Ey did you know that a runner can ACTUALY be a rival? In my world one killed me and it became a rival in himfjall
i just had this happen the other day... i never knew they could do that, in all my years playing this game it's never happened! so cool! 🔥
I’ve had a roller become a rival last week Surprised me
Can we have a detailed video on all items of clothing and where to find them?
sure thing but remember clothing isnt something you find its something make and the clothing designs are usually just from completing certain challenges :)
So since i could get an exp weapon from base assaults at any level your tellin me i could be like level 1 or 18 and do a base assault and get a op weapon?
tbh it's a bit of a mixed bag this one because some people say you can some people said you can't, me personally I've always been able to get them below lvl 25, but like i said the likelihood of you at a lower lvl destroying a base assault is low, same with the reaper and vulture yet it can still drop. so just keep that in mind. and honestly exp weapons arent even that good anymore... augmented 5 crowns are where its at
Not a guess because I counted, but not 100% sure, but it is high number.
Great video will defiantly help with the grid and with what Bots to take out.
Edit: i did have the number typed but then thought it be unfair so I've removed it
it's not unfair g if you got it right you got it right 💪
@@KilroyPlays i kind of figured that counting was of the table because you said to guess.
and while I was counting you though me though a loop, because some times you'd say Crown almost out of know were, and other times you'd just skipped saying it, I think there was a part in the video were you we're going to say Crown, but you stopped your self and just said C, with that said It's crazy that you said it 220 times on the dot, although that's if my counting is correct.
Was it 192 crowns you said?
sadly no but your the closest so far!
Got the “Meusser” experimental hunting rifle like my second vulture drop. I absolutely loved the gun after using it for a while but then I went to scrap a bunch of weapons for weapon parts and out of nowhere the stupid scraping system scrapped it and now I can’t get another one to drop. Every time I get the experimental hp5 I literally want to break something bc I know I’ll have to grind for 3 more hours to get another vulture….
hahahahaha bro the amount of times ive done that is crazy! i'll be like where's my rpg and the games just gone ahead and scrapped it with all the rest of the junk lol 🤣 to be fair though the exp muesser is only good on the lower difficulties sadly, super overrated on guerrilla
@@KilroyPlays I agree, I’ve grinded the game out and got everything I ever need along with mountains of ammo besides that stupid hunting rifle… after I get it again I’ll probably play the game in adventure difficulty just to have fun. Pls pray I get it I’m going in for another vulture as I type this.
P.S. didn’t get it… the Gen Zero gods were against me.😓
fingers crossed you get it after a couple tries g!
Difficultly does not effect loot drops. I have asked the devs multiple times. And this is coming from someone who has all the 5 crown and 6 crown weapons and attachments. There is nothing I don’t have atleast 4 of. It is all just son ur farming the right machiena, and the RNG does its thing. If all you hunt is APOC and speznaz then you will rack up weapons quick. I did all of this on adventure mode and under 250 hours.
The annoying thing is that DLC weapons, at least some of them, have very very high drop rates compared to other weapons. I mean I consistently kill all kinds of machines and I've got no 5 crown S21 or some of the vanilla weapons, but I've had literally hundreds of 5 crown iron condors and dozens upon dozens of 5 crown miniguns.
dont forget at-wads! those things drop like crazy!
Time to grind base assaults
yessir! most people have a lot of luck getting the new exp weapons from BA's
Imagine if this was a VR game
i would have a heart attack! 🤣 too much adrenaline
The mods on the gz discord keep telling me that difficulty doesnt effect drops at all
saying it is one thing but playing the game certainly seems to point in the direction of it does effect drop rates, next they'll tell you that difficulty doesn't determine the drops for base defences or how hard the machines are 🤣🤣
I’m tired of this kvm 89 hate anymore continued hate will result in a 1v1 on nuke town
Exactly
hahah the kvm 89 hate is 110% valid sir and you know it! 😜
Fr why do they hate it? Its a good frickin gun when with a compesator and a red dot. But i do hate the name since its actualy the 249 but still
dw it's just an ongoing joke between me and weedwhacker! has been going on for years
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since there are 38 weps id guess round 50 times you say crown.
but the devs have admitted difficulty doesnt effect drops, if under lvl 20/25 they wont drop experimentals but thats bout the end of lvl and difficulty limits.
i know they say that but the game plays completely different in my opinion. as for how many times i say crown much more than 50, so far the closest guess was 192 i think
@@KilroyPlays when im hunting guns i swap to my easy world as no difference that cant be chalked up to simple probabilities.
i keep mine on guerrilla much better drops for me, just as they said need to be lvl 25 for experimentals yet i had been getting them for years at lower lvl's from base assaults, gz plays differently for so many people g.
204.
I think the word crown was said 204 times.
ooooo very close!
I feel personally targeted by this one for my comment about the kvm 89 5 crown!
🤣🤣 it's a running joke i've had going with some members of the community now for years! i promise its only satire
For the love of god I keep getting Shotgun Chokes from base assault
yeah the 5 crown version is always in those chest thingos ayy
Anyone else having issues spawning their dog since the update ?
im guessing your gonna say crown 14 times
only 14??