I’m 70 when I was a teenager I was a little over weight and I did have big hips, I can remember one of my aunties always saying I had child bearing hips. Let me say she was right I had 5 children with easy delivery. As for the cardigan I knitted one several years ago, it didn’t have a collar or pockets. Last year I decided to add pockets and a cooler using some yarn from my stash. It’s not a pretty cardigan but it is warm, cosy, and very comfortable. It long so my hips are always warm in the winter. Ummmm😊😊☺️☺️
Thank you! Very interseting series on historical knitting; and indeed, this easily comes to academic level. (If going for a degree one has to write it all down). Eventually, all the gauthered knowledge and fascinating learning process deserve a fair packaging.
Thank you, thank you for everything you packed into this episode. I just finished perusing the Hockygods. OMG, how great those pictures are. Women playing hockey outdoors in Banff during a winter carnival 1905, in their long dresses. A painting by Kirchner, 1932, of women playing hockey. I’ve only ever seen one hockey game in my life and I wish so much I could see a women’s hockey team play.
Great podcast Roxanne! I agree with everyone else. You deserve a PhD in knitting! You’ve certainly earned it. It’s fascinating to listen to all you find out! Thanks for sharing with us! The socks look great too! I see they are cuff down. Is that your preferred method?
It's so hard when they don't tell you finished size or gauge! Even today, the recommended needle size might not be what an individual knitter needs to knit the garment correctly.
I cannot imagine wearing a sweater on top of a corset and a blouse! This video on 19th C knitting really goes deep into clothing history!! I bet there is more research possible on how women were measured at that time, but in knitting I suppose there is less research. Very interesting :)) thank you!
I've been checking out Engineering Knits since you mentioned her channel! LOVE it! I know I think it was last week you were talking about the habit shirt/Sontag. I'm assuming you also found the similar garment called a "hug me tight" I instantly thought of the 1994 version of Little Women when I saw the Sontag and I believe it might have been in Gone With the Wind as well? I know Melanie wears a garment which I believe is similar to the Polka Jacket it's light blue/greyish with burgundy/cranberry trim? She wears it to the train station to wish Ashley farewell after his Christmas leave.
Not sure if you are aware of Antiquepatternlibrary.org as a source for vintage patterns. It is not easy to search through, but there are a lot of materials collected there.
Really like your explanations and information on the history of the sweater. Would be interested in how the terminology came about regarding calling these garments sweaters, cardigans, pullovers and jumpers? Thank you so much for sharing 🌼
i have a figure that i usually describe as "an hourglass at 35 minutes", meaning that i have a relatively small waist and a larger circumference in the hip/butt than in the bust area. a lot of those sweaters you included in the photos at the end would look fabulous on my body shape. in fact, if anyone knows where i can lay my hands on a pattern for the St. Claire Sweater, i'd be much obliged. oh, and i am keeping a spot on my bookshelf with your name on it, Rox.
The book is Fleisher's Knitting and Crocheting Manual Eleventh Edition, 1913. I bought mine from AbeBooks. They have several editions from other years, but not that one, and I don't see it anywhere digitized. Columbia would re-print some of their sweater patterns for several years, adding/eliminating others, but I don't know if Fleisher's did the same. There are some sellers who make reproduction copies of these old books (like Iva Rose, on etsy), but it doesn't look like she has that particular edition. If you DM me on Ravelry, I might be able to help you out.
It is so interesting to follow, I realized this episode after a while in to it that I misunderstood the time periods. English is only my second language and in Swedish I'm used to seeing 1800-1899 referred to as 18th century, as well as 1980-1989 is referred to as the eighties. So I constantly mix this up and misunderstand when it in English is called 19th century for 1800-1899, and I have to remember that the eighties isn't referring to 1970-1979, so constantly mix the expressions up as I know one of them are used differently but the other same as I'm used to. So it is so interesting to hearing about knitting construction and the history of knitting, but it is funny how I mix the chronological order in my head. 😂
I’m wondering what the circular needles you mentioned in Danish knitting in the 1600’s were made of. When I think of modern interchangeable types I can’t imagine what they used. Interesting topic this week! Thanks for all the research and information.
I think I said they were knit in the round, not that they were knit on circs. They would have used dpns, just as they would have for things like hats and stockings. The dpns were probably quite long and/or they would have used as many shorter dpns as required to knit the desired circumference.
How far back is it possible to find home knitting patterns, I would imagine if you were used to knitting toques, say, you might get an inspiration to turn what you knew into a vest, and from a vest, it's not a long way to a sweater?
Few comments: 1. Someone needs to award you a PhD for your research into historical knitting. 2. I used to be a small size and shopped for 50 and 60’s fashion. It was easy to find in my size in Maryland because I was an unusually small size. On the West Coast these were not available because small people were not that unusual. Although larger sizes may have been made over into smaller garments when updated, it is my opinion that those fancy, special garments made for a woman’s coming out, her wedding, or other event when she was young, will not fit her as she ages and gets more “meat on her bones”. She may save the garment because of its sentimental value, but no one will wear it again - it’s out of fashion.
Do you have a tip for getting the striping pattern to match in the second sock with self striping yarn...or can you point me to a video where you might have discussed it before?
Ravelry is missing the information for the eleventh edition. I was hoping to get a closer view of some of those sweaters. Please add it to the database if you have a moment.
Are you talking about Fleisher's Knitting and Crochet Manual? The 11th edition is not digitized anywhere that I can find. I've only been able to find one edition of Fleisher's in a digitized format.
@@RoxanneRichardson I mean Ravelry has the information for the 10th and 12th edition, but not the 11th. I'm not asking you to digitize it, just to add the metadata so Ravelry can create a page for it.
Loving these episodes! Well, I always enjoy them but have especially enjoyed the last few. I just watched Melissa from Knitting the Stash talk about historical knitting and she mentioned this researched thesis paper that I thought you might appreciate. repository.lib.ncsu.edu/bitstream/handle/1840.16/174/THESIS.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
There are digital copies (and some reproductions) of Weldon's Practical Needlework available from Piecework shop.longthreadmedia.com/products/weldons-practical-knitter-volume-1-series-set
Earlier today on RUclips I watched a show called "The History of Knitting with Liz Kristan" put out by the Lake Valley District Library. Very interesting. The link is ruclips.net/video/bRzy8RK9zFw/видео.html. Perhaps she may be able to help you in your quest. Love your content, I have learned a lot especially in knitting socks, I have made 3 pair, each one is a little bit better than the one before. Take care, stay safe and God bless.
As a knitter and history buff I love your channel. Please try to show as many historic pictures as possible. I love seeing them.
You're amazing thank you for all your work. It's worth a PHD in knitting. I learn so much from you.
I’m 70 when I was a teenager I was a little over weight and I did have big hips, I can remember one of my aunties always saying I had child bearing hips. Let me say she was right I had 5 children with easy delivery.
As for the cardigan I knitted one several years ago, it didn’t have a collar or pockets. Last year I decided to add pockets and a cooler using some yarn from my stash. It’s not a pretty cardigan but it is warm, cosy, and very comfortable. It long so my hips are always warm in the winter. Ummmm😊😊☺️☺️
Thank you! Very interseting series on historical knitting; and indeed, this easily comes to academic level. (If going for a degree one has to write it all down).
Eventually, all the gauthered knowledge and fascinating learning process deserve a fair packaging.
Thank you, thank you for everything you packed into this episode. I just finished perusing the Hockygods. OMG, how great those pictures are. Women playing hockey outdoors in Banff during a winter carnival 1905, in their long dresses. A painting by Kirchner, 1932, of women playing hockey. I’ve only ever seen one hockey game in my life and I wish so much I could see a women’s hockey team play.
Glad you like them!
Just found your channel, and enjoyed this episode very much. Looking forward to watching you again.
That's so interesting Roxanne. What an unusual jumper design. Can't wait to see what it looks like!
Great podcast Roxanne! I agree with everyone else. You deserve a PhD in knitting! You’ve certainly earned it. It’s fascinating to listen to all you find out! Thanks for sharing with us! The socks look great too! I see they are cuff down. Is that your preferred method?
Loved this episode, as I do all of them, but I did have a good laugh when you announced you would be knitting the next sweater in red and white lol.
All of a sudden it makes sense why barely any of my 1920s knits fit correctly! I didn’t realize needle sizes weren’t standardized!
It's so hard when they don't tell you finished size or gauge! Even today, the recommended needle size might not be what an individual knitter needs to knit the garment correctly.
I cannot imagine wearing a sweater on top of a corset and a blouse! This video on 19th C knitting really goes deep into clothing history!! I bet there is more research possible on how women were measured at that time, but in knitting I suppose there is less research. Very interesting :)) thank you!
I've been checking out Engineering Knits since you mentioned her channel! LOVE it! I know I think it was last week you were talking about the habit shirt/Sontag. I'm assuming you also found the similar garment called a "hug me tight" I instantly thought of the 1994 version of Little Women when I saw the Sontag and I believe it might have been in Gone With the Wind as well? I know Melanie wears a garment which I believe is similar to the Polka Jacket it's light blue/greyish with burgundy/cranberry trim? She wears it to the train station to wish Ashley farewell after his Christmas leave.
Haven't seen a "hug-me-tight" -- that's a new one! That jacket Melanie wore was crocheted, but it does have a similar shape, doesn't it?
Not sure if you are aware of Antiquepatternlibrary.org as a source for vintage patterns. It is not easy to search through, but there are a lot of materials collected there.
Really like your explanations and information on the history of the sweater. Would be interested in how the terminology came about regarding calling these garments sweaters, cardigans, pullovers and jumpers? Thank you so much for sharing 🌼
I have talked about this in the past, but it probably wouldn't hurt to talk about it again.
hearing you talk about cocovid and costubers made me feel like a kid seeing my teacher at the grocery store 😨😰
I would totally read a book about knitting sweaters throughout history.
That was fascinating. Thanks!
i have a figure that i usually describe as "an hourglass at 35 minutes", meaning that i have a relatively small waist and a larger circumference in the hip/butt than in the bust area. a lot of those sweaters you included in the photos at the end would look fabulous on my body shape. in fact, if anyone knows where i can lay my hands on a pattern for the St. Claire Sweater, i'd be much obliged. oh, and i am keeping a spot on my bookshelf with your name on it, Rox.
The book is Fleisher's Knitting and Crocheting Manual Eleventh Edition, 1913. I bought mine from AbeBooks. They have several editions from other years, but not that one, and I don't see it anywhere digitized. Columbia would re-print some of their sweater patterns for several years, adding/eliminating others, but I don't know if Fleisher's did the same. There are some sellers who make reproduction copies of these old books (like Iva Rose, on etsy), but it doesn't look like she has that particular edition. If you DM me on Ravelry, I might be able to help you out.
Wonderful episode. I learn so much from you. Thank you.
So glad!
My mother said she had an 18" waist because of corsets and tight-fitting pants and skirts. Then came children and elastic bands.
It is so interesting to follow, I realized this episode after a while in to it that I misunderstood the time periods. English is only my second language and in Swedish I'm used to seeing 1800-1899 referred to as 18th century, as well as 1980-1989 is referred to as the eighties. So I constantly mix this up and misunderstand when it in English is called 19th century for 1800-1899, and I have to remember that the eighties isn't referring to 1970-1979, so constantly mix the expressions up as I know one of them are used differently but the other same as I'm used to. So it is so interesting to hearing about knitting construction and the history of knitting, but it is funny how I mix the chronological order in my head. 😂
How do you refer to the current century? You don't call this the 21st century? What would you call the years 1-100, if it's not the first century?
This was great as usual. Thank you 😀.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’m wondering what the circular needles you mentioned in Danish knitting in the 1600’s were made of. When I think of modern interchangeable types I can’t imagine what they used. Interesting topic this week! Thanks for all the research and information.
I think I said they were knit in the round, not that they were knit on circs. They would have used dpns, just as they would have for things like hats and stockings. The dpns were probably quite long and/or they would have used as many shorter dpns as required to knit the desired circumference.
What about those cool hats from the college hockey team? Looks like a fun knit.
How far back is it possible to find home knitting patterns, I would imagine if you were used to knitting toques, say, you might get an inspiration to turn what you knew into a vest, and from a vest, it's not a long way to a sweater?
really interesting. I really enjoy also tje likns you share. I descovered engeneering knit which was really good.
That's great!
Few comments: 1. Someone needs to award you a PhD for your research into historical knitting. 2. I used to be a small size and shopped for 50 and 60’s fashion. It was easy to find in my size in Maryland because I was an unusually small size. On the West Coast these were not available because small people were not that unusual. Although larger sizes may have been made over into smaller garments when updated, it is my opinion that those fancy, special garments made for a woman’s coming out, her wedding, or other event when she was young, will not fit her as she ages and gets more “meat on her bones”. She may save the garment because of its sentimental value, but no one will wear it again - it’s out of fashion.
Do you have a tip for getting the striping pattern to match in the second sock with self striping yarn...or can you point me to a video where you might have discussed it before?
I talk about it in this Casual Friday Video from last summer: ruclips.net/video/aIo77Jt_UTA/видео.html
@@RoxanneRichardson Thanks 😊
Ravelry is missing the information for the eleventh edition. I was hoping to get a closer view of some of those sweaters. Please add it to the database if you have a moment.
Are you talking about Fleisher's Knitting and Crochet Manual? The 11th edition is not digitized anywhere that I can find. I've only been able to find one edition of Fleisher's in a digitized format.
@@RoxanneRichardson I mean Ravelry has the information for the 10th and 12th edition, but not the 11th. I'm not asking you to digitize it, just to add the metadata so Ravelry can create a page for it.
Makes sense.
Glad the article was useful! The person to really thank is Melissa from “Knitting the Stash”. ruclips.net/user/knittingthestash
Loving these episodes! Well, I always enjoy them but have especially enjoyed the last few. I just watched Melissa from Knitting the Stash talk about historical knitting and she mentioned this researched thesis paper that I thought you might appreciate. repository.lib.ncsu.edu/bitstream/handle/1840.16/174/THESIS.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
Never mind! 🤣I just watched the episode and see that you mentioned it. Things get around fast! Great episode. 😍
There are digital copies (and some reproductions) of Weldon's Practical Needlework available from Piecework
shop.longthreadmedia.com/products/weldons-practical-knitter-volume-1-series-set
I have several Weldon's publications from Piecework!
Earlier today on RUclips I watched a show called "The History of Knitting with Liz Kristan" put out by the Lake Valley District Library. Very interesting.
The link is ruclips.net/video/bRzy8RK9zFw/видео.html. Perhaps she may be able to help you in your quest. Love your content, I have learned a lot
especially in knitting socks, I have made 3 pair, each one is a little bit better than the one before. Take care, stay safe and God bless.
I was just watching that last night. :-)
A book would be a wonderful idea. Such a shame for all your hard work to be lost to the knitting community...