Struggling Through First/Last Episode of The Big Bang Theory
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Love how penny is supposed to be the “dumb blonde girl” character and the rest are all scientists and have been friends with sheldon the longest but penny seems to be the only one who understands sheldon’s problems , helps him understand what’s wrong and forgives him the easiest.
Emotional intelligence is very different from academic intelligence
Well makes sense since everyone but Leonard can't tolerate Sheldon's quirkiness. In fact there was an episode highlighting this exact fact that the gang were only friends with Leonard and Sheldon somehow got accepted into their friend group overtime despite his annoying tendencies
@@itspienoon7883 Leonard can't tolerate it either, he's constantly annoyed with Sheldon and he mostly feels sorry for him otherwise at first. He's kinda a terrible friend to be honest and uses Sheldon's personality as a totally valid reason to betray him at the north pole.
I always felt that was the point of her character. That she understood emotions and such, something that Sheldon had a bit of a problem with.
@@itspienoon7883 what the name of the episode?
So much of this show is “nerds harass women they don’t respect because they want sex”. Jim Parsons charisma and talent is what made this show successful.
THIS. Jim and Jim alone (and occasionally Penny) WERE the show.
Funny how you don't focus on the later seasons where the women characters completely emasculate the boys and suddenly that's okay because they are woman huh?
Edit: Before you say it, no it's not okay just because the boys did a bad thing first.
It goes both ways.
@@maryem9225 AGREED!
No wonder he’s the one that got the prequel series.
you are so wrong
I love how he just randomly guessed the entire elevator lore like it was nothing
Well it was very obvious that's what the show was always going to do.
its kind of the most obvious part of the show
@@Moe-hs1yoI think they meant that he guessed the elevator would be broken throughout the entire show
@@bullseye1784he knew--it was spoiled immediately
I think he had already heard it somewhere and didn't guess it though
jim parsons is the sole reason this show managed to get through 12 seasons
Funny enough he's also the reason the show ended
Young sheldon is an evil little show and i love it.
@@MedroffYT Yeah, it's pretty fuckin funny for what it is. Just like Big Bang you're supposed to just watch it and enjoy it. Not overthink everything. That's just how some things are.
@@jonny-b4954 most people have standards, so they wont sit though BBT
@@redwoodtrees7068 Yeah and it pisses me off the way dylan does this, I like this show so let me enjoy it
The change in Dylan’s expression from fun and happiness to pure hate and desperation during the second half is comedy gold
The first four seasons are gold. The last eight are awful. (Five was okay I guess).
@@MrNorbo95 There's nothing wrong with 6,7 and 8, but 9, 10, 11 and 12 are really hard to get through
Lmao
@@ericstorm6582 Each to their own. Seasons 6 and 7 were just as bad imo
@@ericstorm6582 I mean 9,10,11 12 were good. I've watched season 1,23 and 9,10,11,12. For some reason I missed the middle but I feel like they were decent
What annoyed me about the last episode is that they all know how Sheldon is, but only Penny seemed to understand that and wasn’t hurt.
Even if you know who someone is, its tiring that over 12yrs of learning and adapting, he still fell back on his basic instincts. Penny didn't care because she's pregnant and have something more important to think about. Everyone has sacrificed, stood up for, protected Sheldon...no matter what. To not have him sympathize which we know he can, he chose to be selfish like he usually is and depending on the situation, Sheldon can be draining and this was the moment he needed to learn that about himself.
@@BlackGirlMarvel he’s clearly different
@@prieltheprune1302 Not denying that, but being different doesnt mean you get a pass on hurting people. I've been around families with special needs, spectrum etc and they teach their kids like anyone else how to be respectful, nice etc.
@@BlackGirlMarvel he is very obviously coded as autistic, real friends would understand man
That was the whole show. Penny is just like Sheldon's mother and took care of him.
I think the biggest problem with the show was it lack of character development. When the characters keep making the same mistakes and errors over and over again despite having "learned their lesson" from the last story arc, it just makes them unlikeable instead of quirky.
It became very painful to watch Raj fail and fail again and never get any better.
My exact thoughts! Thank you :)
It's surprising how the writers never noticed that Leonard and Penny's relationship turns toxic over the seasons. A lot of times they sacrifice the likability of characters for laughs.
howard had decent character development imo
@@pikafoxx9281 He's the only character that I feel improves as the show goes on
The way I was screaming during the recap of Wolowitz and Bernadotte’s wedding abt how they were on the roof so they could be seen on google maps and from space and it was beautiful
Watching Dylan struggle to try to find the word he is looking for, only to find it and forget what he was talking about was pretty relatable. Made me feel better about being an idiot.
I agree😂
facts
My Adhd ass be like that everyday of my damn life
adhd moment
@@atuvera9021 FR
Actually, the most accurate thing about this show is the scientist not having enough money to afford a better apartment.
WHYYYYYYYYYY😩
Sheldon has thousands of dollars it's shown in an episode when he loans some to penny he's completely comfortable in that apartment until he meets Amy
@@Amanda-cv7vn true, it's also shown that Sheldon has thousands of dollars worth of paychecks
@@Amanda-cv7vn that’s his personal money he earned. Science equipment and resources isn’t even 1% of what Sheldon has
Scientists earn completely normal wages, they aint super rich
"I wish they had a show abt him as a kid"
Young Sheldon: Am I a joke to you?
i think he knows it
that's the joke. he pointed that out 😂
I was looking for this comment
he knows lmao,that was the joke😭
RUclips comments are great at pointing out the joke the RUclipsr is making and then acting like it’s their own
LMAOOO@@GwenpoolLuver
I'm sorry, Sheldon BROKE THEIR HEARTS because he didn't congratulate Penny and Leonard immediately??? Are we sure these characters are in their 30s/40s????
And they told him during a plane ride from Pasadena to Stockholm. I wouldn't be able to muster enthusiasm either in the middle of a 20 hour plane ride.
I don't remember if it was said in the last episode, but I believe Sheldon did: penny never wanted kids so he wasn't sure it was something to gratulate her for. although he probably said "she doesn't even wanna kids, why should I congratulate her?" but I was on board with Sheldon with not feeling really enthusiastic about her pregnancy.
@@iramage2235 Honestly, i think the same
I HATED that they got her pregnant at the end. She didn’t want kids!
It’s not that hard to just say congratulations… you can say ‘That’s great… sorry I’m a little tired from the plane ride, but congrats, I’m so happy for you.’ 5 seconds. That’s it.
dylan calling himself smart and proceeding to explain what the big bang is incorrectly, made my day
I got so confused by that 😆 Genuinely thought what I knew as the Big Bang was incorrect all this time. Especially because Dylan is smart and totally NOT an idiot.
@@addictedtoprocrastination9986 he had me questioning it for a second too
I definitely got confused for a sec xD
😂
your post made no sense grammatically
but the funniest thing was dylan calling himself smart -- that was laughable
You should do this with Once Upon a Time. You will be so confused with all the stuff like the weird time travel, multiple realms, different versions of people and everyone being related (without any incest some how).
Oh my God.!!! truer words have not been said. Also, we don't do recommendations here.
Lol. But then he’ll watch s7 ending instead of s6. S7 is pretty much a different show
ohhhh, yesss, that would be so awesome!!
And people think Kingdom Hearts is confusing
I think its pointless to watch only start and finish. I think its better to watch full S1 and then start and end of every arc cause that's crazy ride
"it is just a privilege to watch your mind at work" is so fucking funny
It doesn't work though because thereafter Sheldon is never supposed to understand sarcasm.
@@dudedysseus he cant recognise it. he can still use it
Dylan just released the FRIENDS video he mentioned in the beginning of this video, and it amazes me the dedication he had to finishing all the seasons- it took him a YEAR
Friends was better. At least I understood why they were friends. These characters all seem to hate each other's guts.
friends was so much better
@@user-ss2if4ot9rand there is obvious character development and you can see (especially with Chandler and Monica) how they grow from friends to lovers in the show. It’s realistic and still keeps lighthearted tone of the show.
I think this video hits on one of the biggest problems with the show: at the start, the characters get on each others' nerves but there's still the underlying hints that they actually like hanging out at the end of the day. By the end of the show they are all so snarky and hate each others' guts. There's really no reason they would have stayed together as a friend group.
exactly, for someone who is looking not as a fan of the show but an outsider, the first episode had the vibes of characters who love each other down under all the snark and annoyances (sort of like how college students joke around) but the end was like adults who hate each other guts and yet still hang out since they have been together for so long.
This show suffered a lot from Flanderization, especially Sheldon. It really ruined what was a very promising show. You could tell the actors are so done with it by S12 and are just cashing those final cheques, for which I don't blame them at all.
@@vaishnavisingh9244 That's a good point.
I couldn't help but wonder why they stayed friends with Sheldon given how much they seemed to dislike him.
I understand them having a problem with him, but not why they stayed friends despite all that if they continued to dislike each other so much.
They are rally mean at the end, yes. Also Sheldon definitely seems in the autistic spectrum so its not actually him being selfish its just the way he is and group is so mean about that.
@@mothturtle7897 this is very true the first 3 seasons were actually really well written but after that its a dumpster fire especially adding romance and adding in the character that ends up being sheldon's wife.
I'm realizing that when you watch a show detached from the characters, you can see it for what it is without the emotional blind spots. When I watched it, I was so invested in the characters that I didn't realize how bad the writing got. Watching it through your eyes as someone detached, I realized the quality difference right away. I hadn't realized that before.
Edit: to clarify, I still love the show and don't think it's trash XD I'm just saying that I recognize the writing went downhill towards the end of the show (which most shows that go for that long do). I also don't think someone not liking something I like (even Dylan XD) means I shouldn't like it. I was just pointing out how forgiving I tend to be once I'm invested. Just because a show does character development well doesn't mean they do comedy or plot points well. It's just interesting to look at objectively from time to time.
Tbf, a lot of the things that Dylan didn’t get, you can only appreciate if you’ve watched the entire show. For example, Sheldon’s thing about change or why everyone got so mad at him in the final episode or Amy getting a makeover or Leonard revealing why he’s been wearing hoodies all these years. The jokes got worse, but I think most of the characters evolved in great ways
@@hali_55 I agree. It's theast 2 episodes, they have inside jokes for people who have watched the whole time and that's not a crime, it doesn't mean it's bad because a new watcher doesn't get it if returning watchers get it because they have background knowledge.
So if you pretend what is good in the show doesn't exist, it becomes bad? No shit pmsl
People really are weird.
@@wyterabitt2149 chill out damn
Lol he ruined it.
I just realized that in the first episode, Sheldon uses sarcasm correctly several times, when later it is said he doesn't understand sarcasm. That brings me to another point, Sheldon's character changed massively, and eventually his development just brought him back to where he was first with minor differences. In the beginning, he was neurodivergent, but in a way that wasn't mean or harsh, it was just him, and everyone accepted that. He was nice, and not a total asshole, and it was clear why he, Lenoard, and everyone else were friends. Later seasons turned that around, made Sheldon's neurodivergent traits the butt end of jokes, turned him into an insufferable twat, and it was hard to gather why these people (other than Penny and Amy, who are still the only nice people towards him [though it gets pretty iffy at the end there]) are even friends with Sheldon if they hate him so much. The end made nearly no sense, they accepted Sheldon all these years, but now, the moment that is most important to him, the thing he's been working at his whole life, they turn to judge those traits they now find intolerable, just because he was more focused on an amazing accomplishment. He was probably stressed enough, and he has every right to be proud. He and Amy worked hard for this, and it makes sense he wants it to be focused more on them at the moment. When he didn't congratulate them, it was on a long ass flight, and it was a public place, he might not have wanted to make a huge scene, or he was just tired. They turned this unique character, that wasn't previously seen on TV before, and flipped him into this awful narcist who doesn't have any of the likeability he had in the first episodes. All of the characters just spiraled into this unlikable realm, and they downplayed the actual good characters, or made jokes out of them in the end. I liked watching this show as a kid, i enjoyed it, and It was nice seeing all their stories wrapped up, but I will always prefer the first seasons of Sheldon rather than last.
[imo, if they had to pick a character to turn on, it should have been Howard. He was always so gross, and while he did get better, he was still rude and inconsiderate towards his wife. It might just be Howard being my least favorite character, but it would have made more sense to turn on Howard after he treats all the woman like shit, Raj like shit, and disregards Sheldon as some wacko, when he's not, and constantly pokes fun at his friend's marriage instead of supporting them and being happy for them. (They all do that with Penny and Leonard, it's kind of annoying) He's not great.]
Yeah well guess what? A lot of shows are like that. The pilot will never be perfectly synced with the rest of the show.
I fell asleep reading this
while I agree with the rest, sheldon is autistic-coded and autistic people absolutely understand how to use sarcasm themselves, the sarcasm isn't the issue. the issue comes from tone and not understanding other peoples social cues that it's sarcasm. so sheldon using sarcam but not understanding other peoples, because he struggles understanding other peoples tone but knows what his own tone is when he speaks, makes complete sense.
I agree with everything you said. The characters were quite solid and sympathetic in the pilot (apart maybe for Raj, I always felt his "I can't speak to women" persona was just too much of an exaggeration). Unfortunately they quickly turned into negative caricatures of themselves and by season 2 they were all horrible characters and remained so for the rest of the show. Had they taken all the good ideas of the pilot and built on them, this could have been so much better.
@@misterwhyte I mean if they were all good people it would be too boring. Making them caricatures wasn't the issue, it was horrible writing. One of my favourite sitcoms ever, British comedy series Peep Show literally centres around two roomates who're clearly horrible people but the comedy works because it doesn't hide that and there isn't a forced "happy ending" like it was in this show. If anything in Peep Show the characters stay in the same situation if not worse to what they started and they owe it to nothing but themselves. But it's still funny because the funny parts are the SITuational COMedy these people find themsleves in.
I loved the ending, my biggest problem was some characters seemed really stuck and their plots didn't make sense to them, like Amy. She genuinely grew in this show, so much that her relationship with Sheldon didn't work at all anymore. I can see how the final few seasons can be jarring to people who haven't watched the earlier ones and seen the characters grow.
It’s crazy how consistent this man’s upload schedule is
Ikr
agreed. mans is more consistent than my submitting of assignments 🧐
When youre getting money, your schedule would be consistent too.
Don’t jinx it! It’s Dylan after all😅
@@tarsharimehta4886 you didn’t get it
The last episode is absolutely infuriating, and Dylan's responses are extremely validating. Like... they have lived with Sheldon and his neuro - divergencies for the majority of his life, and now suddenly they decide to do a 180 and not to tolerate anything he does anymore and also be EXTREMELY ableist about it, on one of the most important days of his life.
They're not sending the message that they're trying to send AT ALL.
The fact that after decades of knowing that he may not be neurotypical they still don’t understand that he can’t help it is so stupid. At some point you gotta try and understand him and not get upset when he doesn’t understand you.
how do they expect sheldon to care or change when he's also autistic?
It would have made sense if instead of continuing to blame Sheldon they would say that they are sorry because they are jealous. But still the whole idea of fighting in the last minutes of the show was unnecessary.
Better to end on a good note.
Yeah... I never liked Leonard from the get go - I think the last episode was fine - minus Leonard, like I think Penny was good at putting Leonard in his place, Amy for explaining to sheldon what happened (Whilst also being emotional because this was her day too, and his reactions turned her friends away), and I liked the growth from Howard to wanting to go back to the kids.
Yeah I didn't follow the show super closely, but it's especially ridiculous because Sheldon is often openly cruel to people because he doesn't understand unspoken social norms, so at least if they'd called him out for one of those instances there would be a sense of, "Well, this may be a result of his neurodivergences, but it is still reasonable for people to insist they be treated with kindness and respect." But in this case they're mad because he... doesn't like change? Because he has health anxiety? Because his understanding of social niceties is such that he sees a Nobel Prize he spent his entire life trying to win as more important than a baby that, as far as he knows, the parents didn't want in the first place so he doesn't think congratulations are in order? It's a ridiculous stand to make, and it really feels like the showrunners were too chicken to end the show without a feel-good moment that required Sheldon being neurotypical, so they just ignored who he was so that the audience could see someone yell at Sheldon and call him a selfish jerk and he could magically become "normal" for a scene. Which, like you said, sends a pretty dangerous message.
A year later the Oppenheimer joke hits different.
Im halfway through season 11. I feel like even though the jokes aren't like they were in the beginning, what keeps me so invested is how all the characters have grown. Raj finally accepting that he doesnt have to be in a relationship to have self worth, Howard finding love with Bernadette and becoming a father, Sheldon being more in touch with his feelings/getting married/honestly having some of the most wholesome moments of the show, and Penny and Leonard committing to each other and their relationship. Theres still science, jokes, being silly, and plenty of nerdy comic stuff just like in early seasons. Its easily my favorite sitcom.
the weird thing about young sheldon is that it is a different type of sitcom than bbt and way funnier. the acting by actual children in young sheldon is fantastic, and having laurie metcalf's daughter play the same, younger version of her mothers character is genius. I tell people who didn't like bbt to give young sheldon a chance because they feel like they exist in two different universes instead of the same one.
I'll be honest, I doubt I'll like it, but hell. What have I got to lose? I'll check it out sometime.
Maybe going back to Sheldon's childhood days is enough of a buffer from creepy Howard and the constant lame nerd culture references they loved to shit on. Maybe it'll be harder for them to do it in that show and therefore have to stand on its own two feet with the comedy instead of leaning on cheap laughs.
agree! I caught a few episodes of young sheldon and was shocked by how invested they made me when I don’t care for the big bang theory anymore
I rlly love Young Sheldon, have even watched it multiple times, but my prob fav scene is where he wants to listen to the news about noble price winners and so on (if you've watched it you know what happens and i don't wanna spoil it here) but i just love that scene and montage (i cried). Maybe even more after watching bbt and knowing he actually gets to win one. Idk i just find it very adorable for some reason
I think what makes Young Sheldon great is that its the reverse of BBT. You had a host of "Smart" Characters then 1 normal Penny.
In YS you have a host of Normal down to earth people..... then you have Sheldon lmao.
Wait, the lady who plays Young Sheldon's mom is Laurie Metcalfs real life daughter?
This show was perfectly designed to be played in hospital waiting rooms and nowhere else
that’s so accurate
Funny because one time I was at the hospital, and I saw Classic Simpsons episodes
PLS FR
Precisely, I've actually seen this show being played in both dentist and doctors' waiting rooms.
@@irealkylikeshinythings5184 Please what?
The even funnier (in a bad way) part about all this is that reacting neutrally to news of a pregnancy until you’re sure how the pregnant person wants the news to be received is actually something you learn in teaching sex education!
So easy to just say “we’re excited about this and we want you to be happy for us”, gives the person an easy in to say what is being asked for
If the person isn't visibly upset while telling you the news then the obvious responses is be excited for them imo
@@TinaMay-rr6xiwhat did you miss about Sheldon having autism?
that slap was legendary if you watched all of the seasons tbh
That was probably the best moment in Lenard's life
I would rather get slapped repeatedly for 12 years than have to watch all the seasons.
@@CoyoteSevenl take tbh
😂😂😂
Absolutely agree at the end. Hate when shows tried to force the whole narrative to be angry at this one dude but in all honestly the one dude is the only one who's making sense. Sheldon has always been 'quirky' as you said and leonard should know that after 12+ years with the guy. Get over yourself, Leonard.
But for real Leonard was so annoying, with his fucking hands all the time😅
I mean, Sheldon got 12 years of development, his reaction would have made sense in the beginning of the series, but not in the finale, he grew too much to not care about Leonard having a baby
sheldon has had a lot of development over the years and has shown to notice certain things he didnt before. leonards reaction made perfect sense if youve seen the whole show
@@Fan_Girl-xd8wy Sheldon was under a lot of stress too though about the Nobel prize so I'm guessing that's why he kinda switched back
I disagree. The last couple seasons we see Sheldon get more and more used to social norms and having some respect for change and his friends' boundaries and then this massive event happened for him and he reverted back to his old habits that hurt his friends that have all grown beyond being okay accommodating every quirk of Sheldon's. Sheldon is then forced to be an adult about the situation.
The last episode is like someone announcing their engagement at your wedding and everybody, including your spouse, gets mad at you for not congratulating them. Never watched the show so I have no idea if I'm missing context but that's the vibe I"m getting.
the show got worse and worse and this last episode is nonsensical, i think you nailed it
Um, I haven't seen the show either but from the clips included I would consider this a really different situation. Sheldon voiced his concerns that Penny was sick to multiple people (looks like he talked to Amy and Leonard about it) and was clearly worried about it despite her saying she wasn't sick, so she and Leonard told him the truth (Penny is pregnant) so he would stop worrying. He then going straight back to his seat and dismissively reveals the pregnancy to Amy even though I'm sure Penny and Leonard would've preferred to tell her themselves at a better time. I do think Leonard overreacted in the sense that it it happened in real life you 100% have the right to be mad that your friend doesn't congratulate you, but in this context Leonard knows Sheldon's personality and has been fine with it for years, so for him to now get mad is unfair.
However, it clearly wasn't a case of Penny and Leonard intentionally shifting the attention to them on Amy and Sheldon's big day
You're wrong, they didn't mean it. But they had to announce she was pregnant because Sheldon is germophobe, and he got a crisis thinking that Penny got a virus and everybody is gonna die in the plane.
Didn’t really mean this to be a 1:1 comparison. Just what it reminds me of.
@@sweetly1634 so I have seen the show and I have to say Leonard overreacts alot
I think your opinion of the show just from these 4 episodes is wonderfully accurate.
The first few seasons are amazing, Sheldon has yet to develop all of his show-quirks, he's extremely relatable to someone on the spectrum, and whilst clearly socially awkward, at least is conceptually aware of the world, he swears, can recognise an attractive woman, is "self-aware" about sex/masturbation (first episode), all are qualities which he loses. As well the relationship between the 5 main actors and their chemistry is all really good, minus the fact that Howard is almost quite literal a sex pervert borderline criminal , but the show extremely tones this down as it goes on, and I actually come to enjoy his character with Bernadette.
I cannot get over how much I hate that forced laughter after EVERY SINGLE LINE - there is no joke, yet still, que the laughter, it's so painful.
Around season 4-5 the show begins to lose it's identity and it just feels like you're rewatching the same episode over and over, and around season 9 everything just breaks down and becomes stagnated, into what you so aptly described as, what lesson is Sheldon learning this week? Which would be great, if this wasn't a sitcom, and he was the only main character, but this isn't and he's not. By Season 12, as you again pointed out, even the actors are tired and can barely deliver their lines with actual gravitas that makes it enjoyable to watch.
Raj is the most underused and sidelined character of the 7 - it took him 6 seasons to learn how to speak to women and then another 4 to finally become an independent man and break free of his parents money, the one character who wanted romance, a wife and a family earlier than any other character in the show, is also the only one for whom this doesn't become a reality, at times it feels like he is there for no other reason than the show can say "they're diverse".
TBBT was great, once.
Do you ever just write a 5 paragraph essay for a comment 💀
@@shayla2509 Are you a fking child, scared of paragraphs
@@shayla2509let people write 10 or even 20 paragraphs if they want to, it's none of your concern, you donkey. I know it's hard to read when you're illiterate but that's a you problem.
A comment section is a place where people can interact with the piece of media they just consumed and share their opinion regarding it, if it takes 5 paragraphs it takes 5 paragraphs. At least they managed to share their opinion in an interesting and insightful way and unlike your contribution their comment wasn't utter worthless garbage.
I like the last episodes... he doesn't understand why the last things are funny, because he hasn't felt all the pent up urge, all of Sheldon's tempers and tantrums... without the context of the rest of the show, it's pretty hard to understand how important the last 2 episodes are...
@@chomburomu7929ye that kinda pissed me off how he doesn’t understand things from tbbt that lead up to the finale. U can’t just watch 2 episodes from the start and 2 from the end to say an entire series is shit
I actually really love this show. I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but it’s been me and my dads comfort show for a while now (till we finished it the other day). He’s an engineer and I actually study physics at university now (not because of the show 😂) so we’ve watched it when I’ve been home on break; he laughs at the engineering jokes, I laugh at the physics jokes, and we both cringe at characters we grew to care about 😊
ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH THIS SHOW IS THE LAUGH TRACK. They used it to make up for not actually writing good jokes and it just progressively got worse throughout the series so it became a crutch. Like there were absolutely no jokes in those last two episodes and so much time spent on laugh track
It was a live audience. They're the last show to have a live audience so no laugh track
@@joellemudiay4639 if that's the case, it's probably a live audience who presumably are A) super fans of the show and B) have a "laugh now" sign light up whenever they need to laugh
Sounds to me like a track though.
It used an audience if you're going to be critical then actually be critical for the right reasons
@@gingerDoctorwho damn that audience must have been held at gunpoint to laugh at those “jokes”
@@json_bourne3812 Its a live audience, you can look it up
this show had some golden lines. "mom smokes in the car. jesus is okay with it but don't tell dad" takes the cake for me. but sadly i feel like those golden moments are so few and far between.
"no... not that secret Sheldon."
"I'M BATMAAAAN"
Sheldon getting high/drunk makes for the best episodes
"I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested"
@@Aro7241this scene immediately played in my head lmao
the soft kitty song is ingrained in my habits. i used to sing that song to my own cats.
the first two episodes is the exposition to the tone of the show, the reason there were as many "jokes" in there. the final two episodes serve to wrap the season-long storylines, with emphasis on fulfillment of the story over "making some funny jokes." it will really baffle you without context.
an important point. those who watched the entirety will understand.
Yea, This is a show that you need to watch all seasons to actually feel connected to them, so him saying those kinds of stuff and how about the jokes aren't funny in the last episodes is kind of infuriating.
@@Joesu703 precisely.
Agreed
Tbh the slap was one of the best build ups of the series.
Not that we should slap our friends for their quirks, but it was warranted after Sheldon made Leonard wear that red sweater that gave him hives for a week.
I don't remember when I stopped watching it - but a friend pointed out that the jokes shifted well before the last season to not laughing "with geek culture" but "at geek culture" and it became more and more frequent over time, and then yeah, the sexism really got gross with a ton of double standards.
And yeah, the stuff with Sheldon started to turn into bullying someone. The show started as not totally but with minor shout outs for geeks and over time became all about suppressing anything that was not "normal".
Yep, if you watch without the laugh track, everything they say to Sheldon is so mean and ablest. The man is clearly Autistic, and his friends are so incredibly cruel to him for being himself.
Really? from the bits of episode 1 on here it seems like it was always about laughing at the geeks kinda think or atleast what was intended.
for me its a similar problem that rick and morty has (even though i like rick and morty). people think that because they watch it theyre suddenly a genius. its a show that wants you to FEEL smart while still trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator
This show was at its most popular when nerd culture was on the rise so laughing at nerds got less and less funny as nerd stuff like loving superhero comics/movies became the norm and not the exception.
@@lop90ful1 I always though it was just random unfunny geeky comment and then people laughing.
Knowing Dylan is watching all of friends makes me happier then it should
Ikr I love his beer and a movies
As well as friends
I’m afraid he will ruin it for me and I will have to hâte Dylan
@@35yoglenmckenna31 he better not 🤣
I hope he posts his reaction to it
I think maturing is realizing sheldon is the most likeable and endearing character on the show. I watched the big bang entirely as it played out and given my age and lack of knowledge about the characters in the beginning, Leonard was my favorite! I was a teenager and was a cute scientist, of course he was! but then I got into my twenties and the show continued, and through many rewatches, Sheldon has become like my ultimate comfort character and it just angers me watching the latest season because all the people around him truly act selfish while they're constantly getting upset with him for just being himself.
I understand what your saying but just because someone doesn't understand issues doesn't mean those issues aren't bad. People who are "just themselves" can very well be bad people. If I hated on women for the pure fact that they were women, but I was "just being myself" that wouldn't be an excuse. There are countless scenes where Sheldon was very misogynistic as well as narcissistic which he got called out for constantly. Don't get me wrong, Sheldon had a lot of moments when he genuinely meant well, but he also had many moments where he just didn't.
The issue here isn't really that Sheldon possessed very anti-social behaviours, the issue is that he didn't care enough to work on them despite knowing fully well that they were hurting everyone around him. Sheldon used to be my comfort character as well, coming from the place of an autistic child that grew up watching the only show on live television with a clearly neurodivergent character. While I still very much appreciate the character's existence, he wasn't always a good person. You cannot overlook the fact that while Sheldon had many good character traits, he also had plenty of moments where he was, as you put it, truly selfish.
I think most of the issues here is that Sheldon had the potential to be great representation for neurodivergent people but the show-writers cared more about drama and comedy. In fact I actually think Sheldon's behaviours got incredibly more anti-social as the show went on which is why I absolutely love the first few seasons ignoring the sexualisation of penny.
As someone who watched the entire series for the first time in my 20s...Sheldon was certainly NOT my favorite character and now that I'm watching young Sheldon ...that actually hasn't changed at all.
"maturing is realizing Sheldon was/is a likeable character..."??!! ok🙄🙄🙄
@@Tronjon4278 I understand what you mean and I agree that the characters are overall not the best people but they all have redeemable qualities in my opinion.
My issue with Sheldon is that I cannot get past the fact that for someone so smart, he consistently struggles (and frankly has always struggled) with foreseeing the consequences of his actions. For someone as smart as he is, I would hope he learns from his mistakes or at least recognizes patterns enough to understand how his actions might affect others. But he doesn't...at least not until the last episode.
Sheldon's lack of empathy or even EQ makes him a difficult character for me to care about.
@@Tronjon4278 that's fair. I have no real world experience with a person exactly like Sheldon and I don't necessarily know how I'd act if I were to be in that scenario, I can only guess.
As I mentioned in my earlier response, I am currently watching Young Sheldon and I attest a lot of Sheldon's behavior and response to the world to his mother's coddling (which YS even states himself). Mary's treatment of Sheldon's would mold any child into a self absorbed and selfish person regardless of whether or not they are on the spectrum (which I assume he is despite the "my mother had me tested" bit).
And I have to disagree about Sheldon lack of emotion and how they affect his actions. Sheldon's acts on emotion a good number of times...most of those leading to petty and childish behaviors affecting others and sometimes himself. Sheldon just believes that he doesn't act on emotions because he thinks he is above it and looks down upon those who do and questions them constantly.
i binged the whole show a few months ago and i actually really liked it. i suppose the jokes aren't that funny, but if you've gotten attached to the characters, they really don't seem that dull. the characters went through so much growth over the seasons, it's really nice to see and the final episode is kind of perfect. i think the writers tried to kind of make the characters and the show grow up, because the viewers did too. they started catering to adults and parents more, when the first season the humor was quite juvenile
Perfect way of explaining that
This is how I feel. It’s more about the characters than the jokes at the end. Although I felt what they did to penny wasn’t perfect at all. She should never have gotten pregnant
yeah this comment really got it. The jokes were funny to us because we had the years of build up to them. Dylan doesn't know how pathetic of a humand Howard can be. He doesn't understand everything Sheldon did causing everybody to desire to slap him. He doesn't have the context for anything so obviously the jokes fail on him
That's why I find this video somewhat problematic. If you know the whole series and not just the first and last episode, you get a harmonious overall picture.
@@benn8793but that’s the whole point of the series, he doesn’t get it, and as a viewer we understand he doesn’t. He did this with New Girl where he hated the last episodes, but I loved them because I knew the show.
I also think Dylan’s points about Sheldon are SPOT on. Why was everyone so upset with him? It WAS his big moment with the Nobel so he had a lot on his mind. And he KNEW Penny never wanted kids, he understood and empathized with her. AND it was a crazy random moment on a plane where his brain was focused on other things and it was just sprung on him. And they expected him to react normally?? They should known Sheldon better than that.
I think a lot of the comedy in the later episodes was just nostalgia based and it became more about the show loyalty rather than the actual comedy of the show. I found later episodes I was more touched by episodes than laughing at episodes. I think it’s the growing with them and being able to relate to “some” of the issues - but yeah it wasn’t really the jokes so much anymore. And you’re right - it definitely became “moral of the story” type troupe.
It wasn't that trope. It was literally the ending of years of internal conflict, we have known for entire seasons that Amy has problems with her self image and how tired Leonard is of some of Sheldon's attitude
Agree. At one point the show requests you to be invested in its characters and their lives, and you’re either on board with that, or not. The ending was pretty lazy. We had the “Sheldon is inconsiderate and that hurts his friends” story dozens of time, and this time it felt exceptionally weightless. The writers just needed a big fallout at the last five minutes so that the finale has a conflict, and then immediately come to a resolution.
I guess the final episodes of static shows are not that exciting in general, because you know they’re not gonna shake up the status quo or throw huge twists at you.
spot on imo
There are many things wrong with this show, but what genuinely made me ANGRY was the fact that neither Bernadette nor Penny wanted to have kids yet the writers made them have kids anyway.
I was so happy when Penny remained childfree for the whole time and was still happy, because you usually don't see female characters without kids in sitcoms (unless they can't have kids)... and then they just make her pregnant out of nowhere, and they treat it as a great thing, as if a woman who doesn't want to have kids would be happy about being pregnant. Super infuriating.
A lot of people believe that's something that will change about a person, and sometimes it does, but not often. People kind of trick themselves into believing that it just takes the right amount of love to make anybody want to be a parent.
Yes! They could have kept it just up to audiences imagination if she ever changes her mind about kids. I do like that they didn’t just pair Raj up with someone and really proved the point they you don’t have to be in a relationship to be happy, which is something he struggled with the entire series.
Pretty sure that's not why the show is bad 💀💀 imagine being mad at married women getting pregnant in a TV show just because YOU personally don't wanna have children, get a life
@@LO-dm6uf THEY didn't want to have kids. That's my problem, not that I don't want them xD never said that was "the only problem" with it. They made a big deal about it just two seasons prior, did a whole episode of Penny explaining she doesn't want to have kids... and then they're just like "roight, who cares, bai, let's make her pregnant and not even mention this previous conflict" like ?? I've watched the show a few years ago so I don't remember everything about it, I just remember this part being really disappointing. No need to get aggressive 🙃
I think it is also realistic because in real life, some people who don’t want kids end up pregnant
I love this show solely because my mom and I bonded over this show growing up. It’s one of my favorite sitcoms specifically because it was our thing
Same here. My parents along with some friends in high school really enjoyed big bang so did I. Which surprised me when I found out the hateboner the internet has for it
I think I get these reactions, but I also think the last two episodes only work if you've been with these characters for years and have grown to love them. The ending isn't funny, but it was very emotional to me.
Ye it won’t make any sense to hate an entire show when u don’t watch most of the middle part of the series
Slow clap for people that didn't understand that Dylan was joking when he mentioned they should make a show about Sheldon's childhood and thought he doesn't know about Young Sheldon 👏👏👏
The people who watch that show and the people who didn’t get the joke is a circle
yessss that' what i was thinking hahaha
yeah i was confused for a sec on if he knew about it
Ppl who STILL get all his words seriously: 🗿
the sound of dylan hitting the keyboard getting increasingly louder every time he paused angrily is pure comedy
I actually just finished watching all 12 seasons like 3 days ago and I really enjoyed it all the way through. Maybe you had to be with them the whole time to see the development and enjoy the jokes? My friend 100% agrees with you on Leonard, though, listening to you was like hearing him again 🤣
I think the big difference between just watching the first two and the last two episodes rather than watching the entire journey is you don’t get to see all that Sheldon does throughout the years and the issues that go on day-to-day that progressively get more serious. I think the jokes begin to decline because there begins to become a problem of all of his friends-but particularly Leonard-getting sick of Sheldon and that ends up culminating in the last few episodes and the big conflict before the series ends. It’s a natural end to the show but it was probably hard to fit humor in there. I personally just watch the show as comfort and less because it’s particularly funny but that’s just me. Plus, some jokes do manage to make me laugh sometimes but I enjoy the storylines. Going through the journey also makes you very attached to the characters and makes the outcome more impactful and less easily criticized.
Same it's just a comfort show I throw on when I can't find anything to WATCH or when I'm doing other stuff around the house. It's the same with HIMYM. I've probably cycled both of those shows at least 10 times.
As a neurodivergent I hate how Sheldon's obivous signs of autism is treated as a joke. Not to mention how it treats nerd culture as boxes to be checked.
Yeah, also "we excuse him because his a Little weird" that's like saying "sorry I'm bitch I have narsissicm"
he doesn't have autism -- his mother had him tested
@@Sancyria yes
@@Sancyria So does this Dylan guy
@@yusufgazi7 If you mean that Dylan ''excused'' Sheldons behaviour in the last episode, he didn't. There was no behaviour to even be ''excused'' of. There were MANY scenes throghout the 12 seasons were Sheldon clearly crossed a boundary, and had to be corrected. But in the plast episode, the only thing he did ''wrong'', was not congratulating them on being pregnant in the middle of a plane ride to the biggest event of his life? Something that didn't even bother the ACTUAL person who was pregnant, Penny! And just 1 or 2 episodes before the finale episode, they said THEMSELVES that they would never wanna be pregnant, and repeated that many times throughout the seasons. Then suddenly they get pregnant in the last episode, and Sheldon who clearly has ASS is supposed to congratulate them for a pregnancy that he knows they repeatedly said they do NOT want? Whilst also being occupied with the fact that he is about to win a nobel prize, which for any neurodivergent people including people with ADHD is something that they can hyperfocus on and stress over a lot. He genuinely did nothing wrong in the finale, other then being himself, which Penny even said so herself. If even the woman who is pregnant doesn't see the issue with it, clearly the person is not at any fault. It's just the show being blatantly ableist and trying to end the show with Sheldon suddenly becoming ''normal''. He did PLENTY of wrong things, especially in season 4 where he essentially blackmailed Priya for example. But this aint it.
Honestly the way Sheldon's 'friends' suddenly turn on him for being himself at the end is very strange to me. He always seemed neurodivergent and the idea that the people who have known him for over a decade would suddenly turn on him for the way he is illustrates a notion that those who do not conform to societal expectations should be forced to in order to be accepted by those around them, rather then society and the people in their lives learning to adapt or compromise.
I'm "different" and I don't expect anyone to adapt to me. In fact it would make me kinda selfish if I wanted everyone to bend for me because I'm not like everyone else.
@@ironicly__iconic so you wouldn't expect anyone who you consider a friend to even try to understand you? Adapting and compromising doesn't mean pandering. It just means that there should at least be an acceptance of who you are my your relations and those who consider themselves friends.
he's very narcissistic and selfish, it's hard to just accept that kind of behaviour
@@spudssnowdrops6286 they do care for him and understand him that's why they are friends with him but there is a limit to compromising and understanding. There is nothing wrong with your friends pointing out that u r rude and selfish even if it was unintentional. The efforts should be on both sides. Yes, we should adjust with people like Sheldon but even he has to make efforts to understand others feelings.
he is actually canonically autistic
I watched the entire show, and this honestly made me cry when I watched it for the first time
The show definitely started as a comic show but then all of them grew up together and changed and finally they got what they deserved. SO maybe the last season wasn't about making you laugh, it was about giving them a proper ending
You will literally only feel that slap in your soul if you've watched every single minute of the show
thank you
True💀It was a long time coming😂
I have watched every minute of the show and love most of it.
@@hunterwolff-schollmeyer3902 Same
True man very true but thag slap is the single most satisfying moment of this show
Dylan may have had a miserable time but it was so entertaining watching him get progressively more frustrated and disappointed throughout the video
As someone, who just recently watched through the last few seasons of the show for the first time after having rewatched the first 7 a good few times, those last two episodes really only work if you've been with those characters for a long ass time. Over the course of the show, while they obviously still had comedy incorporated into the show, it veered pretty clearly into more of a character drama towards those last few seasons, with a big overarching plot throughout the seasons.
Some people liked the way this show developed, some didn't for understandable reasons. I was in the camp of those who still enjoyed the show later on, because I was heavily invested in the characters.
The contrast between the early seasons and last seasons is quite jarring tho, I agree.
4:46 “I wish they had a show about him when he was younger” The show young Sheldon exists lol
it was a sarcastic joke-
he knows the show exists..
@@mewcery the amount of people who took that bait .. well it really adds traction to the comment section
I liked Sheldon’s character even if he wasn’t the best person most of the time because it was clear he wasn’t a bad person due to genuinely having malicious intent, it was bc he didn’t understand social cues and things like that. Whereas Leonard stayed as the exact same toxic nice guy the entire freaking show and I don’t feel like he ever had an actual character arc. He got miserable and less patient as it went on. When he was mean, it was petty and purposeful. He did understand social cues and such, he just thought he was better than people because he was smart.
Except you can only tell that to yourself for so long before it becomes clear that Sheldon doesn't want to learn or only does it slightly (almost faking it) when he's scared. Especially when you factor in how much of his backstory is just excuses so he could be quirky more and harder because he's the mascot
Nah, Sheldon is narcissistic and arrogant on top of him being "different." What you're doing is lumping all those things under the umbrella of neurodivergence and not acknowledging that he is just a pretty sh**ty human.
You can still be a bad person without having any bad intentions.
@@anyone1111 ya know what, you are actually very correct and I appreciate that you gave me that perspective
i don't like the way penny would treat leonard she would always say she settled and he wore her down, she would always belittle who he was and make fun of him. leonard wasn't perfect of course he had his faults but penny kind of fed that insecurity with her comments and how she would openly make mean comments about him. whereas you see howard and bernadette so different, she would openly say how attracted she was to him they would back eachother mostly - but penny wouldn't back leonard or openly display that kind of affection a lot of times. it made me really sad bc it was like he was reliving his mother trauma with her at times.
“Harmless... not sweet.”
True.
They do not see women as equals at all, totally misogynistic in a lot of ways, but because “oh they’re nerds, they’re not jocks, they’re losers” it’s suddenly okay. 🤨
Pop Culture Detective made a video about this exact thing (The Adorkable Misogyny of The Big Bang Theory), about how because the characters aren't traditionally masculine, the show somehow portrays them as less sexist, even though they're clearly horrible to women. I wouldn't even call them 'harmless' because they're still predatory, prejudiced and disrespectful
@@sweetly1634 I was just about to say this! I love that video
@@sweetly1634 it was actually Howard who was like that in the beginning of the seasons, but thankfully he changed very dramatically and significantly, he actually became a better and more caring person.
So before y'all write off a show for using constant lazy stereotypes about dumb blondes and disparaging the strategy of misogynistic nerds because they're pitiful anyway.. consider the fact that there was huge potential for major character developments(especially in Howard and Penny), better storylines and female empowerment - Bernadette and Amy - and has proved to do so.
Well, the women in the show also don't see the "nerds" as equals either until the later relationship-focused seasons. But ofc, this fact is completely overlooked, as usual.
The truth is, everyone in this show behaves horrible, especially in the early seasons.
définition of adorkable misogyny
This is one of the type of shows where you really need to connect with the characters....so even if episodes are often only mildly amusing, you enjoy 'hanging out' with the characters whatever is going on in episode.
Yes, at some point the jokes weren't funny anymore, but the reason I think most of us kept watching was because we were invested in the characters and wanted to see how it will end. And they did make a spin off about young sheldon.
He made that joke because he knows there’s a spin off 😂
something that was kind of disappointing about the end is that throughout the whole show penny never wanted to have kids and she always stuck with her opinion about that but in the end the writers decided to say that penny was pregnant. I think it is kind of sad that they changed that part about penny.
not to mention she was drunk when she came onto leonard, and leonard still did it with her, without a condom
I know nothing about it, but if she didn’t swear off participating in intimacy then the possibility is always there, also the likelihood, since babies are the natural result. 🤷♀️
@@rebekahwebster3104 Men and women can use protection. And if necessary and you can live with the repercussions, there’s abortion. You don’t have to have kids just because you’re sexually intimate with your partner. I didn’t watch the show either but the point is that they changed an integral part of Penny’s character that had been there through the whole series at the last moment to fit a new narrative. Honestly, that’s kinda character assassination.
@@rebekahwebster3104 the thing that was iffy was how the writers refused to let any of the women on the show be childless. Bernadette hated kids, always hated the idea of having kids and really didn't want kids. What happened? She had two unintentional pregnancies. Same thing with Penny.
It's like the male writers thought "A woman that's married but doesn't want kids? Can't have that"
@@spectre9340 Amy doesn't have any kids by the end, so that's not true.
I also don't see what's wrong with them having kids.
Sure, it'll bring a lot of stress and challenges, but I like to think for most people it's ultimately worth it.
My biggest problem with the show is how everyone (except Penny most times) treated Sheldon for the entirety of 12 seasons, they never appreciated him fully, always made sure he knew they didn’t want him at some gatherings or at cinema, etc. Yes Sheldon has been selfish a lot, but they’ve been way more selfish than him. At least he always tried his best to understand people even though it is absolutely not something he’s good at.
Yeah that rubbed me the wrong way for a while and I understand it better now.
"You never mean to, that's the only reason why people tolerate you"
Dude, you chose to marry him. You all chose to be friends with him. This plot has come back again and again and again and it feels like it should've just been a season 1 thing and never come back afterwards.
@@speedude0164 absolutely !! it was so overused and unnecessary. like Dylan said, they’ve known him for over 12 years, they’re supposed to know how he is, just get over it jesus.
sheldon is quite literally the worst person in the show, everyone else sucks but he sucks the most. Also its messed up they wrote penny’s character to always forgive sheldon when he was sexist towards her as if its just a quirky little trait to have and that its okay to be a little misogynistic 🥺 he is the most selfish person on the show and shows hardly any growth, they other characters didnt like him as much anymore? good hes shown time and time again why he’s terrible
Yea! Also, Sheldon is autistic-coded, so every autistic person watching the show and relating to Sheldon will think that's how they should be treated!
He never tried his best until he was forced too. I’m surprised they put it p with him for so long. I agree it would have been better for everyone if they just stopped being friends. Half of the series is literally everyone trying to make various accommodations for Sheldon and his selfishness
“I wish they had a show of [Sheldon] as a kid.” Well, Dylan, your wish came true with Young Sheldon 😂
"See i always finish before i swallow." -Had me🤣🤣🤣
I loved Penny and Sheldon relationship, they were so different but they took care of each other like siblings, she wasn't a genius but she was so kind with him and the only one who can understand his feelings. ❤️
seriously the show should have been about those two instead of him and leonard, they have better chemistry too
Yet he was constantly rude to her, undermined her and slut-shamed her whenever he got the chance.
@@bumblerbree I can't lie. I agree 😅
And even in the last episode, she's the one who had no problem with Sheldon's reaction and was trying to talk sense into Leonard. She understood, accepted, and loved Sheldon as he was.
one of my personal gripes with this show is that in one of the last couple seasons, Penny says she doesn't want children. I think there's multiple episodes where she says this, but this particular one they spend an entire episodes plot on it. at the end of said episode, Leonard accepts that Penny doesn't want kids and it's all fine and dandy.
however, somehow the last episode, Penny is accidentally pregnant and is totally cool with it?? like there had been no development of her changing her mind at all, her being pregnant comes out of nowhere and it ultimately has no meaning because of it.
like a lot of the characters developments were kind of trashed but I feel like hers was the worst. being child free is okay. it would've been nice to see her and Leonard happy with themselves. even if they adopted an older kid or got a pet or idk, it would be better.
anyways. I agree with Dylan. I watched a little over half of the episodes if I had to guess, and I mean it was enough to get the niche of each character, so yeah, the ending sucked.
"however, somehow the last episode, penny is accidentally pregnant and is totally cool with it??"
i think that was actually the most realistic and best parts of the series. being child-free is dope, but it's interesting to see a child-free character who accidentally gets pregnant, doesn't freak out, and is willing to make a level-headed decision that makes her happy; even if it's not the same as what she felt prior. the fact that it has no meaning for her and changes nothing about her and was just a thing that happened is actually an amazing piece of writing because it normalises the idea that accidents that don't fit our mindset happens and the decisions we make in regards to those accidents don't have to be dramatic or even super important to anyone but ourselves. it also normalises that being child-free doesn't equate to being pregnancy-free and i think that's something that a lot of CF men and women can grow to learn.
that said, penny's overall development was so stunted and it's actually kind of annoying.
Ugh I HATE when they do that...
@@throwawaybabie8943 But we already had that EXACT SAME story with Bernie. She didn't wanna have kids was pretty appalled to the idea actually and explained why in detail. But then she just got pregnant anyway? Slap in the face for all women imo and it pissed me off to no end.
@@caleidozkopie8344 I guess it's my biggest issue with that storyline that they repeated it. I actually think it's very realistic to be child free and then change your mind, it happens to a lot of woman. But why did they have to make it like a strong message that all girls eventually come to motherhood it's just bs
This was definitely one of the biggest reveals that pissed me off about the ending. It’s fine for a woman to change her mind about having kids once she’s pregnant, but they already did this storyline with Bernadette and the show made repeated notes that Penny didn’t want children. Repeating this message just drives home the point that women will just change their minds about children in the right circumstances.
I've never seen Dylan as miserable as he was in the second half of the video 😂
If you had watched the complete 12 seasons you would know that the last two episodes weren’t about being funny they were more of a feel good thing and I liked it.
Over the years it did get a little stretched but I always enjoyed looking at the characters go through their ups and downs.
Yes thank you!
there's fanfictions that are exactly about Penny being an FBI agent studying the guys and keeping an eye on them because they're such huge security risks lol In the episode where they explain how the elevator broke we find out Leonard had been dating a lady who was a north korean spy after his rocket fuel formula, he had brought some home to show her and then they used a little with a model rocket but did the formula wrong and Sheldon noticed, pointed it out and took it to the elevator, closed the doors on it and let it blow up inside. Howard also brought women into the lab to drive the mar's rover and got it stuck one night in the show. I don't recall Raj ever doing anything worse than following along with various shady schemes though. I did stop watching the show after Amy was introduced, the way they were trying to make her and Sheldon get together was weird to me, plus the whole 'marking her territory' thing in Sheldon's office was just ugh, after that I just couldn't do it anymore, plus Leonard and Penny's relationship is SO toxic I got really turned off from the show. It's an unpopular opinion but I think Leonard is the worst and honestly a terrible person and just super whiny about how 'unfair' life is to him because he's a nerd.
nah ur right leonard is really a toxic "nice guy" and has such a huge victim mentality and he's whiny and annoying too like you said
It took my mom about three episodes to deduce that she hated Leonard, she loved almost all the other characters though.
I agree with what you're saying... but i think the reason leonard thinks life is unfair for him might stem from his childhood and never being accepted by his mother.
@@lamya2002 I mean sure, but Sheldon's been like he is since he was a kid as well and only one of them is treated like his behavior is perfectly acceptable and it isn't Sheldon.
@@ldragon8480 Sheldon came from a loving family though, which is kinda different 😂
This whole experience was like watching two separate videos: a fun lighthearted commentary right before a horrifically intense game of try-not-to-cringe while Dylan sits there in hatred
The rewatchability of Dylans videos is something I greatly appreciate
Not Dylan saying Sheldon's interesting and that he wishes they had a show about him younger😭 4:44
3 long weeks without Dylan content; so glad he’s back! This literally made my day :)
Go watch his other channel it's called ooga booga he uploaded two weeks ago and yesterday I believe
^^what choco berry said 😊
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The way Dylan was able to guess everything that could happen like fixing the elevator at the end, a young sheldon tv show etc. was outstanding.
I’m pretty sure he didn’t predict Young Sheldon, I think he knew about show so he was making a joke.
@@basketman2517 yeah that's what i thought
Young Sheldon began before TBBT ended so Dylan would have known about it.
Or maybe he just looked it up before doing this fake ass reaction.
@@pikachu3b366m fr, this was one of the worst reactions I've ever watched
I'm a fan of the show, even after watching all 12 seasons. The first 5 seasons are the best, then the show really became about humanizing Sheldon because he was the standout character. So, it lost focus from 6-11, but then in season 12 it gained more focus because Sheldon and Amy had the Nobel Prize plot to really drive toward, so for me the final episode redeems a lot. Not a perfect show, but I still found good entertainment and enjoyment in the seasons where it meandered, but it also did what a lot of good sitcoms do which was let the characters grow and change. Howard is probably the best example, he went from a pervy deviant to a wholesome family man. Penny and Leonard, once they got married, I feel they were grasping at straws as to how to keep that interesting, because that was the central premise for so long. The one who really got the short end of the stick was Raj.
as I've watched this show from start to finish, it's a show you grow with and you grow to love. The characters change a lot and the jokes land harder with context from previous seasons. The ending made me cry 🤣
yeah i basically couldn't stop crying the first time i watch the last two episodes. even when i rewatch it all thru i still cry
As someone who pushed her way through this show to get the end because I had invested too much time already to not finished; Sheldon carried this show. To the point I cried during his acceptance speech for the Nobel and I do not understand why because my god this show.
I was SO angry though; all of them at the end were like "Oh Sheldon has annoyed us so we're going to leave and not watch him win the Nobel" and that's fair enough BUT WHAT ABOUT AMY. She's winning the Nobel too! She's your friend too! Why aren't you staying purely for her?!
FUN (?) FACT - Big Bang Theory and Game of Thrones both aired their finales in the same week and yet Big Bang's finale was far better received, and that says a lot. Bet no one would have thought of that before the last season of GoT aired.
Penny literally says “I can’t leave I have to be there for Amy” so stfu
Cause it is a better end to a series than the game of thrones one!
@@anki5156 as a GOT fan I can agree 🤣😂😒🤦
@@585Courtney yes the whole finale season was painful except for episode 1 and 2
@@anki5156 I think The Big Bang Theory had such a bad reputation at that point that the finale could have been anything and people would have just been glad it was finally over. GOT had a higher reputation to live up to. People name their children Khaleesi or whatever, but I don't see people naming their children after Sheldon Cooper.
I think what really bugs me throughout the show is that Sheldon is frequently portrayed as neurodovergent, yet he's always the butt of the joke. it became such a problem that they had to make a running gag (I'm not crazy my mother had me tested) to ensure the audience that Sheldon doesn't have any mental Illnesses or is on the spectrum, despite him being frequently portrayed that way. and what really really bugs me is that they had the opportunity to embrace that and make a character that could be looked up to but nope let's just make him the villain of every episode that gets in the way of our "normal" characters happiness at every turn
idk why they didnt own the fact he is autistic, instead didnt "label" him so hes just "weird and annoying". its almost like they wanted him to be the brunt of a joke. as an autistic person its pretty weird and sad to watch
i bet u could make a great show
wait he isn't autistic?!? i thought that was the whole point of the show. sad to hear that they just made a joke of it :(
@@amym3599 he very obviously is but the writers chose not to label him as such, which defeats the whole point of his character! they made it seem like he isn't autistic and just an annoyance : (
Why didn't they make him asexual?
You should do first and last of young Sheldon it the show of the main character as a kid
I loved the big bang, the later seasons definitely dragged a little bit but I was invested in Sheldon and Amy so it pulled me through.
I'm not sure at what point it was but the tone of the show changed from the guys being a fairly solid group and showcasing their differences to Penny, into everyone versus Sheldon. It was like at first Leonard was the main character, you see the story through his eyes, but at some point the show realised that Sheldon was potentially a goldmine so centred him. It worked for them in a way because they got to 12 seasons, but at some point after making Sheldon the centre, they ran out of room so they had to turn it into the group vs Sheldon. In order for the audience to not hate the group for that, they had to make Sheldon intolerable 90% of the time. Which means the audience didn't want to see the story through his point of view but they kind of lost Leonard as the main character, so the audience didn't really have a main protagonist. When you don't have any identifiable protagonist in a story that is all about character and not plot, it starts to feel rudderless and pointless. The structure of the jokes inevitably crumbled because they painted these characters into a corner and they didn't have a plot to back it up. Shame, it could have been better for longer if they hadn't shifted focus so drastically.
I agree with you completely! When I was watching the show in the later seasons I was also thinking about how they really don't have a main character.
I feel like in the end the story was following through the stories of the individual couples and the reason why Lennart got forgotten was because he had no chemistry with no one. Howard and Bernadette were a good team at the end, Sheldon and Amy worked out and their relationship became pleasant, Raj and Howard had a chemistry and Sheldon and Penny had an endearing relationship over time. Lennart was just a big whiny baby acting toxic towards Penny in the end. Raj had different relationships going on which made following his story interesting. Then there was Stuart and Howards mom and later he got a girlfriend and their relationship dynamic was good too. It was a while ago, so don't nail me on the quality of each relationship dynamic, what I am trying to say is that there were a bunch of relationship dynamics going on but Lennart wasn't part of any of them. He was just there and constantly whining. There was even an episode where the writers made it a "joke". Sheldon and Penny bonded over their frustration with his constant whining lol
While Leonard is the one with the love interest Sheldon is clearly main character since episode 1
@@joshuaguevara1309 No it definitely wasn't Sheldon in episode 1. 'Main character' doesn't mean the funniest or most eccentric or the one who steals the scenes. In an ensemble piece, the leading character is the person we see through the eyes of and whose story we are tracking the most. It's all about POV. For the first few episodes at least everything is seen through Leonard's lens, not Sheldon's. Sheldon's eccentricities are all viewed through the prism of Leonard's annoyance with Sheldon. Sheldon's eccentricities aren't view totally standalone, or he would be a more empathetic character because the backstory of his behaviour would be front and centre. So at least at first, Leonard was the main character. Main Characters are the ones whose POV and motivations and reactions we are shown most. For example, we know Leonard is the main character and not Penny, because we are shown their first meeting from Leonard's perspective - he sees her first.
Another example from a different show, How I Met Your Mother. We all know Ted is the main character. It doesn't matter that Barney is funnier and more interesting, or that more is happening in Marshall's life and Marshall is more likeable. You know Ted is the main character because of the title for one, but mainly he has a voice over, making it undeniable that the stories are all told from his perspective, so he is the one we are following. Supporting characters are often better characters, but it doesn't make them leading characters.
@@JB-qf5ep it’s Sheldon not because I find him “ eccentric or funny”. Everything happens because good or bad based on his motives. While they both come out in every episode. Sheldon has more than 10 hours extra of screen time than Leonard. The world revolves around him. Even Leonard wanting to be with penny.
The reason it is maligned is that most of the characters are actually pretty hard to like (in my opinion). Penny is a freeloader who quite happily takes advantage of someone she knows perfectly well is obsessed with her, Leonard is a jealous, possessive hypocrite, Howard is a borderline criminal sex offender, and Raj is a diversity inclusion who is mostly irrelevant to the story at any given point. Amy is incredibly awkward, but not in an amusing way, and Bernadette's entire personality and demeanour changed part way through (for the worst) from a sweet, naïve type to some snarky, mean spirited, unnecessarily aggressive turd. The only decent character was Sheldon and even then he was purposely annoying, but at least in a quirky amusing way. He carried the show for so long surrounded by toxic idiots
perfect summary imo
Very true. I also never liked how Stuart's mental health was written as a joke. He had some very serious struggles.
All the jokes that a seriously depressed individual might end their own life was never funny.
They were terrible 'friends' to him and when he started speaking up that they were being hurtful, in came all the jokes that he was just overly needy for wanting respect.
If you ever have a friend like that please don't ever treat them the way the show treated Stuart.
Mental health is not a joke.
Leonard would often come off as a dick. Bernadette became really bitchy. Amy could come off very weird. And Raj literally felt like a character they put in last second as a token colored character. Btw, I’m not even saying that as a “woke person.” They literally just wrote him as the flattest most boring character, it was awful.
"Penny is a freeloader.."
Me: 🙄🤦🏽♀️
Until she isn't, her character reaches quite the development when she finally gets a job she is very good at and enjoys, her career progression hits such a stride that she even makes more than Leonard. Character development done well.
Point being: ALL OF THESE CHARACTERS have changed into better and productive versions of themselves.
Maybe you should have stuck around for these developments.
Well of course these characters are flawed, it's a breeding ground for comedy by using those flaws.
Howard became a better person and got married, had a family, being that person changed him into a caring, supportive person, still with rough edges but still a working progress.
Honestly, y'all put these characters on a pedestal like they're supposed to be perfect while making great comedy, and failing to realise that comedy comes from various avenues, a plethora of errors, tragedies (and there have been plenty), problems. They've all been teachable moments for viewers and it's also what draws viewers to these characters as certain aspects may identify with them.
No character is without sin, otherwise it's just boring and bland. It's parallel to human beings in society, we're all flawed. But there is potential for redemption and improvement, it's how we learn, grow and change.
End of rant.
NB: The only flaw I will concede is how they dealt with Raj's character, honestly it felt like the writers had given up, didn't even care about poor Raj, by the end it was literally left open ended. Bit of a letdown tbh.
Honestly, considering that Bernadette got stuck with Howard for a husband I completely understand her character shift and find it super realistic.
It was more painful to see Dylan overreact to the jokes in the final season. They really weren’t that bad, I just feel like his expectations were too high.
Would love to see Dylan react to each episode of this show. That would be interesting.
The show dramatically changed after season 3. My belief is that they wanted to target mainstream audiences and the show essentially became "Friends" with slightly nerdy characters in season 4 onwards. Very disappointed in the direction they took but it worked in making the show "successful" (if you gauge success with viewer numbers/profits)
friends were (most of the times) are very good to each other, TBBT characters just get more and more sarcastic
Totally agree with you aside from comparing it to Friends. Friends got less sophisticated in its humour but it was still amusing all the way through and you believed these guys were actually friends who liked each other. And you liked them. None of those things were true with TBBT long before the end
Once Amy was introduced, the show turned into exactly the same typical sitcom it tried not to be when it first aired. The appeal was just being different from all other family romcom sitcoms. If bbt started in S5, much less people would watch it.
@@alatielinara exactly, i think that’s the main reason friends still holds up pretty well, they genuinely seem like they would be friends
It is Friends but it's 6 Rosses and 1 Rachel.
My favorite thing about this show is that my professor used to use a scene from it in class to have us identify how the characters were using a scientific concept incorrectly lol
Which scientific concept was that?
@@revertrevertz5438 Classical conditioning
Are you talking about the time Sheldon was giving chocolates to Penny?
@@revertrevertz5438 yeah, I think so. I think he called it positive punishment when it was actually negative reinforcement or something like that
@@theresamk1296 he does call it negative reinforcement though
This show has some flaws, but it's still my favorite sitcom. Idc what anyone says
Agreed
same
There is no way you could feel and understand what the characters are going through without watching the entire series.
damn I never knew the big bang is what killed the dinosaurs, I always thought it was a natural catastrophe that killed them... I'm so glad Dylan's always there to educate me
here i always thought the big bang is what created our universe
@@nottoday9437 Yes,your thought is right
Big Bang theory is a supported theory of our universe's origin.
😂😂
@@bubu.3322 joke king here and I can tell you my friend that was a joke
We learn something new every day 😂
I definitely recommend Pop Culture Detective's "Adorkable Misogyny" and "Complicity of Geek Masculinity" if you wanna dig deeper into the criticisms of this series, I know you've only seen these four episodes but I love media deep dives (esp PCD) so maybe you will too
usually i'm all in for criticism, but those videos are absolute dogshit.
agreed the adorkable misogyny was really good
Wholesale agree. I loved BBT since its inception, and I saw people dislike the show but didn’t understand why. After many seasons, something felt off about the show but I couldn’t vocalize what it was until I came across PCD’s videos on the show.
I like some of pop culture detectives vids but a couple are bad takes that seem to stretch to find a problem, like equating critiques of The Last Jedi to being against strong female figures
Dylan is literally a rep of adorkable misogyny lol
“i wish they had a show about him as a kid or something”
young sheldon:👀👀
I think it was a very early season episode, but I recall a joke where Sheldon is trying to use programming logic to make a friend, but it creates an infinite loop that is only solved when a friend adds a programming clause that would break it. The joke worked, it was understandable, and it was a pretty decent use of a nerd thing for the basis. Whether it was funny is subjective.
Then I'm seeing episodes my mom is watching and realize it's not even trying with that stuff anymore. But my mom was watching it while I'm streaming or playing games, so I guess I see why the change happened.
The last episode broke my heart and not because it's the ending, but because of the way everyone behaved towards Sheldon, even though it is very very very clearly implied that he is neurodivergent.
And people will say "Well just bc he is neurodivergent doesn't mean he can be selfish and awful to others"... Is there a reason why he should care about people who bullied him for 12 seasons and always made jokes how annoying he is, how much they don't want him there, how they cannot deal with his neurodivergent traits?
If you ask me, I wouldn't care or want to be kind to those people either.
Same. They were awful to him. Like you don't have to hang out with him- so why do you? Aside from Penny (and sometimes Leonard or Raj) the rest you kinda just question them. But, Howard was kinda a creep/rude to everyone- especially to Raj and Sheldon.
totally. I am that type of person who can forget to congratulate someone with big events, etc and my friends know that and never rude about it. Leonard seems to really hate Sheldon later in the show(
funny enough, it seems like one of the creators said in interview that he didn't intend to make sheldon a person with ASD even though he checks out most of the symptoms to it??? idk if this was them trying not to take responsibility for how they represent him in the show
@@d.o.m.i. Yeah, they just didn't wanna seem ableist gor bullying the character with aitistic traits really. If they vaguely hint but not say explicitly, they can get away for "jokes" they made about his clearly autistic traits
Same here. They treated Sheldon like trash
This show has the vibes of my 60 y/o dad when he says "I hate everyone alike". Racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, homophobic, ECT. The fact that the main group is all geeks isn't just the source of jokes, it's basically the entire joke. They rely to heavily on stereotypes as a source of comedy and never add anything to the table.
the fact that so many people even in this very comment section absolutely didn’t get this is definitely why school bullying continues to be an issue. All these people claiming to “love the geeks/nerds” here when it was all jokes at the expense of these stereotypical characters is why I had nightmares going to school since third grade. The series being so mainstream aligns with most actually weird or quirky (aka ND) kids being bullied and laughed at them instead of being accepted.
Thank you. I have always hated this show. My reaction to every joke I saw was exactly like Dylan's reactions in the second half of this video. Like... _the jokes themselves_ are not intelligent at all. And somehow not liking it means we don't "get it."
Plus I'd like to add my stepfather who was abusive and misogynistic loved this show especially Sheldon and that shows why it's not exactly good
_But they had something._ At least in the first few seasons.
There was something there, you can even see it in the video. _Dylan sees it._ He laughs at a few of the jokes in the first two episodes.
But then you can also see the source of the problem. The little jabs at nerds, the stereotypes, the stupid shit. There had to be a different writing team from that first season to the last. A tremendously different team. Or just one group that got so sick of writing content for this nerd-bashing show that gave up at some point. I don't know.
Maybe it was always doomed to fail, but moments like Sheldon cleaning Penny's apartment inappropriately mis-using the spare key she loaned them is *funny.* It works. Sheldon's a neurotic weirdo and the whole group tend to be dense and socially-awkward, that creates a lot of misunderstandings that are perfect for this kind of format, but the writers didn't care about that and stopped leaning into it.
idk, it's hard to pinpoint the exact problems with the show. They're obvious, but hard to express. It's just bad writing, that's really all there is to say. The characters became heavily flanderized, like all characters do, but not for their funnier qualities. For their more obnoxious ones.
And Dylan's right, the whole group getting pissed at Sheldon in the last episode is so ham-fisted. At that point, they're used to Sheldon. They know what to expect. Makes no sense they'd get all pissy all at once and over such petty, insignificant crap.
@@Lucifronz well one thing that keeps popping up is the guys being shitty to there wives/girlfriends and even when one of them was right about them doing something wrong they always make it seem like its the women's fault or she apologizes
i’ve watched the big bang theory a few times and there’s no real decline?.. but the characters go through so many life changes, that you care more about what’s happening with the characters, than the humor. the show changed overall.. drastically.
Now that young Sheldon (the better between the two shows) has finished you should do this with that. Finale had me crying
No recommendations lol. The more you say it, the less he's going to want to do it.
To be fair, I watched all of this show in nearly 1 go and struggled through some of the episodes, mostly because I ended up absolutely hating Leonard's whinyness.
same! I’m rewatching some of the episodes and I was telling somebody. I dislike Leonard’s character because he is so smug & whiny
Man that whininess
I think it started going a little south for me whenever they kept writing Penny as just a depressed alcoholic and making jokes about it. They also made about a million jokes about her and Leonard and how they just shouldn't be together and implied they have a terrible relationship. They couldn't really figure out what to do with Raj, who was obviously successful, attractive, and charismatic at times, but it never translated into much for him. Howard got a good arc, but it feels like they tried to bring him down by making Bernadette's character awful. Sheldon and Amy were decent through all the seasons. Amy was really great when she was new as well.
I don't know if I can totally fault the writers for all of this, because to me, a lot of it felt like it might have come from Chuck Lorre and Bill Prady themselves, and how they often write relationships and bully the characters in their shows (Two and a Half Men, Married with Children, Dharma and Greg, Mike and Molly, etc).
I'm not sure what's wrong with these two guys that they feel like they have to bring characters and their happy relationships down a peg in order for it to be funny, but I've noticed it's an integral difference between sitcoms from the 90s and 00s and today.
I only watched Two and a Half Men a handful of times but I absolutely hated Jon Cryer's ex wife in the show. The only character with a modicum of likability and redeeming qualities gets unfairly victimized by that horrible shrew, and it's played for laughs. That's not funny. A woman abusing the family court system to make him pay her alimony while she kept the house and he has to live with his brother is not funny at all. Why would I want to watch a show where the only good guy gets crapped on?
Took the words out of my mouth!
I've always felt that way about Raj. It never made sense to me how after so many years they still made him miserable and awkward, when he clearly seemed to be the least weird out of them all.
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that's exactly why I don't like Chuck Lorre's shows. at some point the characters become so flawed they're unlikable. also THANK YOU for mentioning bernadette's character. no shade to the actress but bernadette is mean, petty and grating, I CANNOT stand her character. I literally prefer howard over her even though men like howard make me veey uncomfortable
the worse the ep the better the one joke in em feel 😭
“When did this show stop having jokes?”
About 12 seasons ago