I’m finishing building up my Ryft kit. I have the reefs micro installed for the speed shifting. Now reefs has a new servo horn specially for shift shifting
I'm open it back today...again! What the hell axial was thinking! I like the Ryft but the servo/rod design is a "little bit" confusing😅 to say the least! Tks for sharing very well explained tips👌
Thanks for the information, I had the exact same setup when I was running. I almost have all the parts I need from Vitavon to get back to building. Been a busy month for me, it will be nice to get back to the RC's when things calm down again. Hoping to have a big reveal by the end of month.
I bought the servo insert from yeah racing, it won’t work on the Reefs micro servo as the shaft size is 4.9 mm I contacted Yeah Racing and they since change the description on there web site it is made for a micro servo with a standard 5.9mm shaft.... Yeah Racing make one YE-0030, Traxxas 2065, Powe HD TRX-4.
Had they made the teeth a mm longer we wouldn't have these issues. I would like to see them redesign the entire 2 speed gear setup. Im going to shave mine down like you did and see what happens.
I have the servo saver in mine, but I also used the Spektrum 107 when I built mine... I wanted simplicity for my first build. I need to do these mods you're suggesting because mine also has a tendency to pop out of gear. Thanks a TON for sharing this info!
Swapping the orientation of the end on the trans shaft was the fix for me!!! I think that’s a mistake on Axials end!! I had to change it on mine and it has been work fine with the servo saver!!! It’s like the angle turned away from the direction of pivot was working against the servo!! That set up look killer now!! Shouldn’t give you trouble!! I can’t wait to get back into mine and shave the internals now to get more engagement depth!!
Mine has never had an issue holding 2nd. It's always low gear. My glued together servo horn seems to work better. I've even thought about taking a dremel and putting a slight angle on the shift collar and gears that way they actually lock together instead of trying to push apart.
Maybe you could put in a light-spring, just to keep the gears together, when wanted !! 🤔.....!?? I also thought about filing the "catches" on the side of the (1st & 2nd gears) !!? IDK I work on my son in laws RYFT, so I GOTTA GET IT RIGHT !!!! 😬.....😉 - Thankyou for your input !!! 👍🤘😎
@@paulschryer9571 I'm afraid if you put a spring on one side it won't engage the other gear at all. Its a poor design all together. Its over engineered and still doesn't function properly. Axial needs to look at a trx4 2 speed and copy it. They use plastic parts but work flawlessly. You can have them bound up bad and they will still shift. It kills me that axial couldn't get the ryft done decently..
If these things are popping out of gear ... there is a mod called "under cutting" not sure if its ever been done on an RC, but motorcycle have a similar dog style transmission, and high powered bikes get the transmission undercut so that the dogs are no longer straight (flat) they are cut with a slight angle on them. So that when they are under power, they are actually pulling together tighter ... the more power you add, the tighter they hold. The only problem doing this is ... if this RC is designed to shift while under power ... it will no longer do that ... a quick blip of the throttle will be needed to make it shift to unload the dogs. Just a thought ...
@@ExocagedRC See, great minds think alike! LoL! As far as dremeling though ... I honestly dont it could be done (properly) ... main reason is ... if you dont get all dogs identical ... it will put all the load onto 1 dog. The male part of the dog would be somewhat able to be done fairly easy ... its the female part that will be hard ... getting the angle right inside that slot ... surely you would know someone with a desktop CNC? If I had one myself, id grab a set of gears and try it ... even though i dont have a Ryft ... i just love modding stuff hHaHa!
Yeah I know some guys. I was looking at the dogs and they also aren’t solid pieces. We would only get maybe 2 degrees or so before we possibly got too thin and tear them off. Yeah getting it right with a dremel would be almost impossible.
So glad you make these videos about the Ryft cause I was going to buy one but I don't want to mess with the transmission like that on a new truck! So hopefully Axial makes it right sooner than later cause I love Axial myself 👍
I'm using the stock servo and stock servo saver and stock plastic case , had issues at first with kicking out of second but after some mods inside trans and getting end points good , it works as should and I've had it on 4s .
I have to go back in and trim the form on the high speed side. Did the low gear side, and it is holding in gear well, but didn't do the high speed side and it is jumping out a bit. I think once I get the high speed side of the form thinned down, mine will be solid at that point.
@@paulschryer9571 if you look at the shift fork, the shaft part of the for, has both sides raised up, making that part of the fork thicker than the fork tines themselves. Grind those humps flat on both sides of the shift fork so the Fork is the same thickness from tine to shaft. Then, you'll need to mod the case just a bit to allow the shoulder on the shift shaft to slide into the front 1/2 of the tranny case, so the fork tine can set flush against the inside of the case. This will allow the fork to move the shifting cog to fully engage with both 1st and now, 2nd gear. You only want to grind on the shift fork itself, and open the hole in the case 1/2 for the shoulder on the shift shaft. Hope this helps.
Low gear works perfect in mine, 0 issues meanwhile 2nd sounds so damn bad. Spent solid half hour messing with end points and such to get it set and it seems good untill I give it some throttle and it just makes so much noise. I made my own servo horn with some cheapo metal gear micro servo. Couple bashes and despite solid amount of grease still on gears, hi speed had some wear on them. Think I’ll just bash it untill it breaks and get replacement set then, it’s relatively cheap
Hey ! Hey ! Great info video ! I missed the question episode , but here goes ,I installed the Ryft skid plate , it has screws on both sides on the bottom in it , are these for rock gaurds , and does vitavon have them , do you Know ?
They are there to save money on production and retail. I found I can take those 3 out on each side and pull the belly out and work on it easier than the other way so it kinda has a bonus feature
i am having this exact issue on my stock one at moment did you still use the silver spacer bit that screws onto the shift arm and make the servo horn to fit that or wat did you do at that end
Thanks. I purchased a steering link from vitavon but man the toe-out was insane so I took it back off. I like how the treal links comes with both links also.
Yeah the first version of his axles were about 3mm wider and now there are both long and short steering rods out there and it’s been a bit confusing on that.
I went ahead and ordered a set of treal links and shock mounts hopefully I can use the link that attaches to the servo without tearing up my raw 500 I do have a rebuild kit for it so if it messes it up I'll just get one of the servoaf servo savers
One question how much money you invested in the ryft i mean vitavon parts i have one ryft and im really frustrated from the qualiti the asc reciever gone after week all the parts like diff are death so i buy them new and til now i invested over 350 euro and the best part i will sold it for 200eur and nobody won buy it 😡😡😡😡😡
The most modified expensive ryft on you tube. Why did axial design a rock bouncer with open diffs. It will slip going up hill. Ear plugs in rear diff, what percent locked up.
I fix mine by drawing it up in CAD and printing it out to fit my micro servo. Works as intended!
Smart. Would you share your stl file?
The servo saver would probably be beneficial because you could have spring tension holding the shift fork in place.
I’m finishing building up my Ryft kit.
I have the reefs micro installed for the speed shifting.
Now reefs has a new servo horn specially for shift shifting
I'm open it back today...again! What the hell axial was thinking!
I like the Ryft but the servo/rod design is a "little bit" confusing😅
to say the least!
Tks for sharing very well explained tips👌
Very nice setup. You always have the coolest rigs. Great job.
Great idea to fix horn issues , that things awesome 👌
- It sounds (to me) like you are accurate in your shift- collar assessment !!!! 👍🧐
- You are AWESOME BRO !!!!
Thanks for the information, I had the exact same setup when I was running. I almost have all the parts I need from Vitavon to get back to building. Been a busy month for me, it will be nice to get back to the RC's when things calm down again. Hoping to have a big reveal by the end of month.
I’m ready to see it!
Yeah Racing make aluminium spline adaptors to use a 25T splined servo with the standard servo saver, instead of having to use a different DIY horn.
I didn’t know that. I’ll look on eBay
I bought the servo insert from yeah racing, it won’t work on the Reefs micro servo as the shaft size is 4.9 mm I contacted Yeah Racing and they since change the description on there web site it is made for a micro servo with a standard 5.9mm shaft.... Yeah Racing make one YE-0030, Traxxas 2065, Powe HD TRX-4.
I found a mess O Plex 😜 you totally got me into crawling and my passion cause another to buy a crawler thanks so much love the channel
Thank you
Had they made the teeth a mm longer we wouldn't have these issues. I would like to see them redesign the entire 2 speed gear setup. Im going to shave mine down like you did and see what happens.
I have the servo saver in mine, but I also used the Spektrum 107 when I built mine... I wanted simplicity for my first build. I need to do these mods you're suggesting because mine also has a tendency to pop out of gear. Thanks a TON for sharing this info!
Swapping the orientation of the end on the trans shaft was the fix for me!!! I think that’s a mistake on Axials end!! I had to change it on mine and it has been work fine with the servo saver!!! It’s like the angle turned away from the direction of pivot was working against the servo!! That set up look killer now!! Shouldn’t give you trouble!! I can’t wait to get back into mine and shave the internals now to get more engagement depth!!
Mine has never had an issue holding 2nd. It's always low gear. My glued together servo horn seems to work better. I've even thought about taking a dremel and putting a slight angle on the shift collar and gears that way they actually lock together instead of trying to push apart.
Maybe you could put in a light-spring, just to keep the gears together, when wanted !! 🤔.....!??
I also thought about filing the "catches" on the side of the (1st & 2nd gears) !!? IDK
I work on my son in laws RYFT, so I GOTTA GET IT RIGHT !!!! 😬.....😉
- Thankyou for your input !!!
👍🤘😎
@@paulschryer9571 I'm afraid if you put a spring on one side it won't engage the other gear at all. Its a poor design all together. Its over engineered and still doesn't function properly. Axial needs to look at a trx4 2 speed and copy it. They use plastic parts but work flawlessly. You can have them bound up bad and they will still shift. It kills me that axial couldn't get the ryft done decently..
If these things are popping out of gear ... there is a mod called "under cutting" not sure if its ever been done on an RC, but motorcycle have a similar dog style transmission, and high powered bikes get the transmission undercut so that the dogs are no longer straight (flat) they are cut with a slight angle on them. So that when they are under power, they are actually pulling together tighter ... the more power you add, the tighter they hold. The only problem doing this is ... if this RC is designed to shift while under power ... it will no longer do that ... a quick blip of the throttle will be needed to make it shift to unload the dogs. Just a thought ...
YES!! I actually drew that up but I doubt Axial would even look at it I wonder if we could dremel some away to make that ourselves?
@@ExocagedRC See, great minds think alike! LoL! As far as dremeling though ... I honestly dont it could be done (properly) ... main reason is ... if you dont get all dogs identical ... it will put all the load onto 1 dog. The male part of the dog would be somewhat able to be done fairly easy ... its the female part that will be hard ... getting the angle right inside that slot ... surely you would know someone with a desktop CNC? If I had one myself, id grab a set of gears and try it ... even though i dont have a Ryft ... i just love modding stuff hHaHa!
Yeah I know some guys. I was looking at the dogs and they also aren’t solid pieces. We would only get maybe 2 degrees or so before we possibly got too thin and tear them off. Yeah getting it right with a dremel would be almost impossible.
So glad you make these videos about the Ryft cause I was going to buy one but I don't want to mess with the transmission like that on a new truck! So hopefully Axial makes it right sooner than later cause I love Axial myself 👍
This isnt a show stopper, get the Ryft, just leave it stock with out the shift mechanism and leave it in high speed.
I'm using the stock servo and stock servo saver and stock plastic case , had issues at first with kicking out of second but after some mods inside trans and getting end points good , it works as should and I've had it on 4s .
Good to hear on that.
Ive got that stock servo saver on my RYFT Builder kit had to buy spektrem servo with it but never had a problem touch wood
I have to go back in and trim the form on the high speed side. Did the low gear side, and it is holding in gear well, but didn't do the high speed side and it is jumping out a bit. I think once I get the high speed side of the form thinned down, mine will be solid at that point.
- WHERE DO YA "THIN" THE FORM !!??? (ON THE 4-CATCHES) - ON THE SIDE OF EACH GEAR !!??? 🤔.....
@@paulschryer9571 if you look at the shift fork, the shaft part of the for, has both sides raised up, making that part of the fork thicker than the fork tines themselves.
Grind those humps flat on both sides of the shift fork so the Fork is the same thickness from tine to shaft.
Then, you'll need to mod the case just a bit to allow the shoulder on the shift shaft to slide into the front 1/2 of the tranny case, so the fork tine can set flush against the inside of the case. This will allow the fork to move the shifting cog to fully engage with both 1st and now, 2nd gear.
You only want to grind on the shift fork itself, and open the hole in the case 1/2 for the shoulder on the shift shaft.
Hope this helps.
@@paulschryer9571 I went in and did my 2nd gear side on Saturday. Working great now.
Stock servo saver works a lot better than ur setup the spring holds slight tension at all times
You gotta keep a few recreational dirt piles..👍
I am going to buy me a kit and I'm not sure if second year is even working what's your opinion thanks for the radio I always watch
vitavon servo saver for scx10.3 working good in ryft
Low gear works perfect in mine, 0 issues meanwhile 2nd sounds so damn bad. Spent solid half hour messing with end points and such to get it set and it seems good untill I give it some throttle and it just makes so much noise. I made my own servo horn with some cheapo metal gear micro servo.
Couple bashes and despite solid amount of grease still on gears, hi speed had some wear on them.
Think I’ll just bash it untill it breaks and get replacement set then, it’s relatively cheap
Nice mr Exo those look like hw esc spacers for the esc fan✊🏽👊🏽
Y not shave the aluminum (stock) gearbox mount & let the shaft be on top of the servo horn?
Thats how I did mine as shown In my 2 speed Ryft Videos. One more coming to tweek my fork one last time.
Hey ! Hey ! Great info video ! I missed the question episode , but here goes ,I installed the Ryft skid plate , it has screws on both sides on the bottom in it , are these for rock gaurds , and does vitavon have them , do you Know ?
They are there to save money on production and retail. I found I can take those 3 out on each side and pull the belly out and work on it easier than the other way so it kinda has a bonus feature
EXO..... - why would your Dirt-piles go away !!???
Due to heavy rain, or another project !!??? - Thx !!
👍👍
What steering servo do you using your X Maxx
Stock
And you didn't show a nut bolt combo to hold the 2 parts together because?
i am having this exact issue on my stock one at moment did you still use the silver spacer bit that screws onto the shift arm and make the servo horn to fit that or wat did you do at that end
#1 today! 😁 (Again! 👍)
What tires are those?
Ottsix USD Sticky
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Can i run a a 550 3500 kv motor in a axail ryft.
I’m curios to if the treal steering links will fit on the vitavon axels does anyone know?
They should
Thanks. I purchased a steering link from vitavon but man the toe-out was insane so I took it back off. I like how the treal links comes with both links also.
Yeah the first version of his axles were about 3mm wider and now there are both long and short steering rods out there and it’s been a bit confusing on that.
I went ahead and ordered a set of treal links and shock mounts hopefully I can use the link that attaches to the servo without tearing up my raw 500 I do have a rebuild kit for it so if it messes it up I'll just get one of the servoaf servo savers
Wait...?....axial designed something poorly?? I'm shocked.
One question how much money you invested in the ryft i mean vitavon parts i have one ryft and im really frustrated from the qualiti the asc reciever gone after week all the parts like diff are death so i buy them new and til now i invested over 350 euro and the best part i will sold it for 200eur and nobody won buy it 😡😡😡😡😡
How much does this bad boy weigh now?
About 10.5lbs
The most modified expensive ryft on you tube. Why did axial design a rock bouncer with open diffs. It will slip going up hill. Ear plugs in rear diff, what percent locked up.
I like the diffs, it’s more forgiving and less prone to throw the vehicle sideways when one tire gets traction and the other slips.
@@ExocagedRC my trx4 climbs hills better in locked. It slips and can't climb tough inclines if unlocked. I don't own a ryft.