No matter how good this game is, it will never live up to the hype or expectations some people have of it. It could be the best game ever made, and some people will still be disappointed because it didn't live up to their imaginations. That's just the way things are. I'm really excited about Star Citizen, but I'm keeping my expectations in the middle ground.
0:39 Will individual planets have unique terrain? How will this contribute to gameplay? 6:34 How are you planning on handling on-foot and in-flight exploration of a planet like ArcCorp that is completely covered in factories? 8:59 How will the PU work during logouts/ISP disconnects on a multicrew and player interaction basis? 11:10 How will the game handle multi-day or multi-week guild run campaigns in the PU? 15:26 (Unscripted) What happens when someone else takes your ship? How will access to your ship be handled? 19:29 How will the PU handle instancing of missions and the NPC enemies that spawn around them? Will difficulty scale based on the number and quality of the players? 20:59 Could any of you comment on any of the environmental risks that we can expect to see in the likes of in the PU? 29:41 Now with farming in the distant future could it be possible to retire our character and have a small house, a field and a garden and do some farming? 32:02 Will there be multiple currencies, perhaps used by different races? If so, will there be any variation in exchange rate between those currencies? 33:44 Will people/ships get the capability to activate a distress beacon of sorts that broadcasts their location to nearby ships?
I think Tony might my favorite developer. He is just so passionate and I get the impression that if someone wasn't there, he would tell us literally everything about the game, and then some lol. This is why I know this game will get made, and it will be fricken awesome.
You enter an extreme environment, and you are warned that your suit isn't rated for such use. I mean, you can go out, but you will probably burn/freeze to death or whatever it is that your suit/ship can't handle
Kael It seems forever, because you never seen a games development from the beginning. Usually its 1/2-1 years before release when we hear about games. 4 years are not really long for an MMO + a single player game.
Quantum for "10's of minutes". Yay! I really feel this is important to create the feeling of a universe. It must take hours to get across the universe.
Elite Dangerous got them beat by making you stare at loading screen for 7 days to get to the other part of slightly different colored planet on the other side of the universe. ED the only game where 80% of game time is the game mechanics of making you stare at loading screen.
+cpypcy, SC is, unlike ED, completely seamless and is not going to have loading screens in the PU (it will be streaming). And at least you aren't stuck to the cockpit chair all the time and can just go fool around the ship with the mobiglass, jukebox, etc. or check on the subsystems while you wait. Personally for me, the local physics grids make it enjoyable. The sensation of walking around the bridge of the ship as it flies around is unlike any other game experience.
I want to do some space trucking and I want to start in slow ship that takes forever to truck across the galaxy. Or I can choose quicker but more dangerous routes. The whole trip shouldn't just be like 10 mins. I want adventure where I have to refuel and fix components along the way. Then when I make money I get to upgrade my ship engines that make it faster.
LazyPanda Coffee is banned in future. Turns out that the reason why so many people were dying in cancer at 21st century was because coffee multiplied the risk of cancer by 600% Upon finding this out, smoking became cool again.
This is the type of video I want. TAKE NOTES! dev's discussing what's in the works, ideas and add more ideas on the spot. I want this! Not the community managers drinking coffee on streams talking about their day at home :P
THANK YOU!!! This was exactly what I needed! Last weeks ATV wasn't really my thing and got me dissapointed as it was the whole ATV. But anyway, thank you. I need more of this
Some feedback to whoever set the volumes on this: It was too quiet. I was at work listening on headphones on my lunch break. Even with all volumes at 100% it was too quiet. That's RUclips, Chrome in the mixer, my output device, and the master volume. I don't generally have this issue, I think it was just exported at too quiet a volume.
Still don't know if they snapped completely and went insane, or if this is the most bold move ever done in the history of entertaining software development.
I can see why people are sceptic but I can also see why people are enthusiastic. I myself am enthusiastic about Star Citizen and backed it. It can all go downhill but I'm happy that they are trying to make it happen.
It's a bold move. We have the technology now to make such things, that's why we are seeing lots of games like no man's sky or elite dangerous. And we need to remember that this is a crowd funded project, it's made not only with people's money but with their support as well. I think making this game is possible but people need to stay with them for a while (making a games is a long process, and pretty much building a company along the ways takes time too)
I really wish we would be able to explore all of Star Citizen's cities, exploring every building, every alleyway, and land somewhere quite silly, and deal with the consequences of being hunted by security. Oh well, maybe we shall see this added to the game in 10 years or something :P
Video shows one of the issues I have with the game: Casually mentioning something that clearly is going to require a lot of development. For example, I don't think most people would have a major issue if you went to a factory/city covered planet and it auto piloted you into the area where you can be. Nobody expects them to make a whole planet (even from the outside) that's a factory. But talking about how you can fly over certain areas, deviate a bit off the path, different gates and finally have to go through customs on foot... that's a lot of work for very little reward to most of the player base. We all want immersion, but dropping that casually seems like the people working on the game would scream at the screen "Good god no! What are you saying?!"
It's a well documented issue with the development of the game. The feature sounds like fun, and I honestly think it would be great. However the game is 2 years late (finally moving along right) and if the interviews/reports are to be believed, mainly because of things like this. Yes, the feature would be neat. But it's a TON of work for a game that is looking to release years late to begin with. Which is more work? A pre-programed path you fly down to a specific landing path, get out and go on your way. Or several paths that allow deviation and thus need to create a full city for, bugs related to people flying around and an airport/customs system coded/built. On its own, that's fine. But he's done similar things so many times it adds up. Think of the ships that get added regularly for specific purposes. A news ship for example that does in-game TV broadcasts. Creating a system where people can edit/broadcast video in game is a huge undertaking. He says these things, but they're a ton of work... which is the last thing you want in development. It's death by a thousand cuts.
It's already been mentioned that they're thinking about having the ability to claim a city/planet or location one a planet that's not been found before, if you do you can sell the location on to merchants, miners etc. or keep it hidden and keep the rewards for that area for yourself, if you defend it.
Best Game ever ! I bought Aroura MR ! it's great to be in SC and thanks for explaining the upcoming game developments it's phenomenal and amazing to watch you guys!!💫
Good awareness raised there: A hired NPC on a multicrew ship can be a disconnect insurance. If your ISP disconnects you while you fly around in an asteroid field with your Connie, your NPC copilot can prevent you from ramming into a rock until the ship despawns. But of course, if your connection is notoriously bad, you can also adapt your piloting habits to that, e.g. by never flying directly at an object but always aiming next to it into empty space. This would probably be a realistic part of flight training anyway, because if you suddenly fall unconscious for some reason, you could die in a huge explosion, and potentially also harm others. Regarding service beacons it would need to be decided whether they are like a big lighthouse or more direct comm. I'd assume that service beacon transmissions are secured so you'd need a Herald or such to actively detect a distress call. And if you're outside of comm array range there would probably be listening installations for picking up distress signals so that eventually civilization WILL know about your emergency. Just maybe after some hacker picked it up.
When someone disconnects while he is in combat he could be replaced by an AI. That would not save his ship if he disconects intentionally, but the ship is not lost immediately after he disconnects unintentionally.
What specifically do you need to know about networking that they haven't already addressed? The majority of the current code will be replaced in 3.0, that's been known for several months.
I played a bit in 2.6 on a multicrew ship, just running turrets and popping out in EVA with a friendly player I met online. Was a lot of fun, though still laggy...particularly during jump. We didn't really do anything, but it was still fun.
Appreciated this segment. Normally I'm not as into the developer diary stuff, but this answered some questions I had, and gave some tantalizing new ideas that I hope make it into the game. Now finish 3.0 plsplspls :P
Sry in the Moment he said "you cant go there because you have not the right equipment to resist the radiation" i thought a few moment on No Mans Sky :/
Jan The best way to think about it, in the case of Star Citizen is; you're not stopped from going there by some invisible wall, you won't fade to black or be forced away. However, just like in real life, you'll be entirely able to go to that inhospitable environment, or fly through that violent sandstorm, but you better be ready to face the consequences if you/your ship isn't equipped for it.
patience,they aim something that no other gaming industri dare or achive,don't rush it just because some people who can't wait something that they will never forget,a journey,promise and a vision from robert,it takes time to make something big especialy if see what already star citizen can achive and their future vision,patiencd is a virtue and a leader without vision will be doubt,but robert he has clear vision,big passion and big dream for us to enjoy and something for robert to achive and proud to give something that any gaming industri never given.
Would like to see one myself too. A location that will burn you and your ship if you don't get to the dark side of the planet by sunrise. I belive these three planets will be quite close to the environment of the Crematoria: Tat’Ko in the Geddon system: starcitizen.tools/Tat%27Ko Oso I in the Oso system: starcitizen.tools/Oso_I Pyro III in the Pyro system starcitizen.tools/Pyro_III
I want to see huge canyons and caverns to fly around, they'll make flying around planetside or around a particularly large asteroid much more interesting, they're ideal places for all sorts of outposts ( a good excuse to fight over them ) and great environments to race in.
satannstuff large asteroids with caves or tunnels through them and the odd Mynark (sp) would be cool too, but I love the idea of fiery planets in the sun with sunrise meaning you have to hide underground. Hopefully we will se plenty of variety of xenomorphs also apart from the given alien races. I'm thinking Aliens facehuggers and queen variants/genesteelers/the ones from pitch black/ starship troopers /antlion types. They wouldn't need any backstory or language particularly. They could just inhabit certain environments. Doing that derelict star farer with an alien queen hiding in it...
There was a campaign spaceship hovering over capital city, which is Maldraxxus flying Ziggurat which is a spaceship even if it does not look like a spaceship and does not have any engines anno since forever. In a similar place whole ensemble is having a say goodbye concert. In animation UI there is a keyword scenario, Warcraft made campaign levels and called them scenarios - atleast they know it because most of us does not use Blender daily if there is no clear goal to get a job or a community goal.
Maybe CIG should focus on actually delivering their plans. So far there is almost NOTHING in the PU. I can also sit and talk about stuff I would implement in a game but it's worth nothing until I actually deliver.
Petr Peller as much as you're going to get flamed by fans, you're right. The PU is a gorgeous and empty place. You could do all there is to do in about 6 hours. That has been the case since 2.0 came out, except maybe it went from 5 hours of content to 6. That is if you can stay connected long enough. We waited a year and got some new ships and a broken FPS module.
Most game developers don't have to "deliver" anything until the whole game is ready and packaged. CIG is working with one hand tied, because they have to continually update a playable alpha for the backers, and run the servers like it's an actual game, when it's not even close to finished. If Rockstar let us play the alpha for GTA6, I'm sure people would complain that the game was taking too long. Which is why the average developer doesn't open their internal builds to the public, or give any thought to making those builds "fun" or "finished" in the short term.
I like the limited persistence after someone logs off. One of the biggest complaints in E:D is "combat logging," where people will intentionally log out when they are losing a battle, in order to avoid the rebuy cost of their ship.
I love Tony Z so much. Case in point: CR: Just a future goal from now, but we may have other currencies... Tony: HERES HOW ITS GONNA WORK. I'VE ALREADY FIGURED IT OUT IN MY MIND.
For the first time, im starting to think that Star Citizen will never be finished. All of these interviews are always about what stuff will be like, even though said stuff is like 4 years away. You can just say whatever you want in these cases..."Yeah, there will be space Elephants and 3000 planets....you'll be able to have multiple bionic pets". Talking about what will be is easy, but not very interesting.
Jose Cano Well considering average game development times SC should be at least another 2 years away, as its much more complicated than the average MMOs which usually developed in 5-6 years.
NoxiousButtSpray its 24 since 2016 march.... Also noo need for sarcasm, they have great devs, half of Crytek, assuming they cannot improve the netcode (especially as they stated it comes in the next patches) is plain dumb.
Probably not directly, but there's no reason you can't have an AI fly one of your other ships and you give them orders "Form up on my wing" and they will just stay by your side as much as possible.
Not over a fleet I'm sure perhaps 1 or 2 other ships via NPC's. Although, I doubt it would be a good idea considering the cost of hiring them and the risk to the player losing multiple ships. Another point is NPC's will not perform as well as players. Last 1 player can't see everything that is going on so if they tell the npcs defend me the ships defending could be engaged by ships that are just a decoy while the real threat comes from another side.
The question about planets that are covered by city/factory they did not answer correctly.. The question was HOW is the player going to be able to walk about the planet openly when the planet is entirely covered by city structures? The idea is that we should be able to walk off a ship and walk all the way around the planet ending up where we started.... How does that work on planets covered by a city entirely??? Next, If I OWN a ship and have other people onboard and I log out, what happens to MY ship I own? Do I have to make sure all players are off my ship? What if I am on a ship that continues on a mission but I cannot log in for days... when I log back in will I then still find myself loading back on that ship later to the surprise of the owner?
You must not be familiar with Star Citizen. There are already planets of this kind. In fact you can visit one now in game although you are kept from exploring outside the city center area and stores at this time. Area18 (ArcCorp): Originally designed as a test for planetside interactions, Area18 is an ultra-detailed cityscape for you and your friends to explore, go shopping, or just see the sights.
The planet (s) covered in buildings will not be full explorable and will only have set landing locations. Arc corp for example will have a set number of locations for you to explore. This question has been answered a few times before.
they already told us that is not every planet that is possible to land and walk, this kind of heavily colonized planet is only possible to land im a "hub", for example in ArcCorp you will only be able to land on Area18.
I know we will have specific landing areas for certain planets like ArcCorp. However they also have said we would be able to pretty much go anywhere on a planet using rovers, on foot etc.. Guess we will find out exactly what that entails when it happens.
I believe the PVE/PVP slider was abandoned but since like 90% of the verse is NPCs the PVP is going to gravitate towards lawless systems. You can still solo but you will need NCPs if you expect to run a larger ship with any effectiveness.
Most curious about progress with NPC navigation and how they would overcome transitioning from one specific craft to another, a la boarding parties, or deal with zero-g environments.
I Hope the power system lets us do things like hotwire power from one system to another....Jury rigged repairs. Invader knocks out life support, we figure out to reroute our sensor power (or something) to keep it running.
Would be awesome when you build a outpost and your hit by a storm that rages on for a long time and then something get's destroyed out side en you need to put on your suit to fix it in the storm.
A lot of people are talking about how this is to ambitious, but I've been developing games for a long time, I even worked on the game snake( y'know the one where you eat stuff and grow) and that games used a lot of the same tech that SC is using (especially the planetary landings) so don't worry every one, the tech is there. :)
You should have an option to buy secondhand ships but the risk involved would be a set of random missing parts. For example, missing weapons that you'll have to buy on your own or missing jump drive or missing cooling unit. Just an idea.
Every time i imagine these things and think about it im sad its soooooooo loooong till we get there! But i think 3.0 will be the first major thing when i will be spending many hours ingame.
I have an idea about the online. To start off, I do not know much about making games so I don't know if this is possible. OK here it goes: imagine while you were playing, your character gathers information about your playstyle and what not. then when you log out your character switches to an AI character and it plays in a similar way to how you would play. this would allow your characters to play with your friends when they need a crew. you would also earn some of the award while you're away. I feel like this could change the game play significantly
now imagine while you are away from your character it still exists in PU doing the job that it is set up to do (mining, transport, etc). other characters will interact with your character, sending a message to your phone giving you the option to react.
also imagine your character has a cargo route that he is following while you are at work. an actual player playing as a pirate attacks your ship. So you open up a 2d layout of your ship showing your AI and the intruders. then you can give your AI orders to protect your ship
That's a cool idea. IIRC, CR mentioned in some stream, that he did not like the idea of a player owning, lets say 10 NPC ships that would mine/transport cargo for him 24/7, while the player is offline. This would be allmost like macroing or automining. Big ORG's could do that though, but just with actual people playing. You could have NPC's hired in your ship and defend it, in case you get disconnected or die during an attack/raid and the NPC's could win the fight and let you get your ship back later on..unharmed.
Matthew Manning but by doing this you are taking away control from the player. if you log back in to realise half your assets are destroyed because your Ai alter ego went for a joy ride for a miniscule amount of credits... well, I would be pissed. don't know about you. and tbh, this would probably be not worth it, because you would need the extra processing power server side to maintain active persistence for every single player. not to mention what would happen if you log back in and your Ai has got you stranded in the middle of nowhere for God knows what reason. just wouldn't be worthwhile from either a design or technical standpoint.
Maybe they should always put a "technician" in the background that, at every "new idea" just goes nuts in despair. Don't get me wrong, i too want a game that has everything, but how realistic is that.
I can see this turning into Eve Online with 90% of the people online opting to be Pirates griefing the 10% who just want to "Care Bear" like Mining, Exploring, Missions/Questing etc.
Naughty Nimitz or one will have to place them in restraints, drag them/load them into a vehicle, get them to their ship, and then put them some where like a holding cell... or closet.
I would love to see some "civilization" type of gameplay. Lets say you discover a planet and have enough money to pay for the service of a colony of npcs that can farm, dig, build, etc. As for the lore it will get really interesting the type of families/factions and products/inventions that can come from civilisation building.
They haven't ruled-out other games in different genres set in the same fictional universe. So I would think some thing like that is more likely to be a separate game.
There should be a chain of command system so when the captains off the ship the next in line is acting captain until he gets back and so on and so forth.
Well, they mentioned that there will be some kind of permission based system in place, you give your number 2 permission to pilot/command and then it's reasonable to assume that he's gonna be in command while you're away.
They figured it was more important to fix the actual issues rather than trying to do work-arounds for one demo. Specifically: It was primarily the AI-subsumption which wasn't fully operational for the demo, so they used placeholders which looked out-of-place. Hence, it was better to fix things for the game and skip the demo. My guess is they will redo the demo once the functional AI systems and such are in-place.
Only issue I see with the "de-persist the ship if everyone logs off" is the bigger (not capitol ships, they have different rules) multi crew ships like a starfarer. :P If one person stays and everyone goes to sleep for example, then that one person has to protect the ship while everyone's character is... sleep? ]\'[
Oh how original. jesus can you just keep that pessimistic attitude away from Star citizen? Cause to people who actually do their research you sound like a absolute tool
Brandon some people here follow completly blind. they start to believe that this will be a "live simulator" or something... making incredible unrealistic claim about this game... ive spend over 300 dollars in this game, which is alot for my standards and i csnt wait to see more. but some people should stay realistic and should stop believing everything without evidence.
I'm no expert, but without a sustainable influx of cash, the game cannot move forward. If it's solely a purchase price, then we'll be flooded with expansions each year to keep the income flow up. This would be more inline with like a console game, versus a MMORPG , that has a monthly ~$15 subscription. I asked the question because I didn't know, but I can't imagine they'd move forward relying solely on the purchase price (which all backers have already paid for any way).
bpmiller87 I am sure there will be cash coming into the game in expansions. Like wow does. But they have said their would be no monthly subs. They have no publisher to pay so that should help. Plus they will make a lot from SQ42 1/2/3 etc... should be enough to keep the people on the payroll plus they said they will sell in game cash for real cash.
woooow cant wait to go through customs at the spaceport..... replacing fuses,maintaining durability bars = tedium. I dont mind SOME survival and realism elements but please make sure they arnt integral to the gameplay loop.
Exploit? If someone manages to "tag along" your ship or comes across your ship after you log, you can keep their ship from de-spawning by boarding and thus taking over an empty ship? Might be a good idea to sweep your ship (inside and out) to make sure you don't have a stow away.
Tony has a severe case of the "You knows."
Its mesmerizing to listen too.
CR does too, along with "sort of" and "uh." :P
Chris manages to hide them somehow, at least a little better.
Nah, his You Knows are done in sign language.
20 mins in I started wondering "need to find that comment that refrences the 'You Knows'".
Didn't take too long.
No one's criticizing them, its just funny to listen to.
You know Star Citizen will be the best game ever you know.
Alex Knight As an alpha, it's got more content than 95% of all triple A games
Sike
Richard Forrest And how do you know that?
No matter how good this game is, it will never live up to the hype or expectations some people have of it. It could be the best game ever made, and some people will still be disappointed because it didn't live up to their imaginations. That's just the way things are. I'm really excited about Star Citizen, but I'm keeping my expectations in the middle ground.
Gorreci Yup
0:39 Will individual planets have unique terrain? How will this contribute to gameplay?
6:34 How are you planning on handling on-foot and in-flight exploration of a planet like ArcCorp that is completely covered in factories?
8:59 How will the PU work during logouts/ISP disconnects on a multicrew and player interaction basis?
11:10 How will the game handle multi-day or multi-week guild run campaigns in the PU?
15:26 (Unscripted) What happens when someone else takes your ship? How will access to your ship be handled?
19:29 How will the PU handle instancing of missions and the NPC enemies that spawn around them? Will difficulty scale based on the number and quality of the players?
20:59 Could any of you comment on any of the environmental risks that we can expect to see in the likes of in the PU?
29:41 Now with farming in the distant future could it be possible to retire our character and have a small house, a field and a garden and do some farming?
32:02 Will there be multiple currencies, perhaps used by different races? If so, will there be any variation in exchange rate between those currencies?
33:44 Will people/ships get the capability to activate a distress beacon of sorts that broadcasts their location to nearby ships?
I think Tony might my favorite developer. He is just so passionate and I get the impression that if someone wasn't there, he would tell us literally everything about the game, and then some lol. This is why I know this game will get made, and it will be fricken awesome.
"Oh you don't have the right equipement to go..."
*laughs in Terrapin*
Can u explain that to me? :
Matrixar Terrapin is a literal tank of a ship. It's basically a flying turtle.
Matrixar its the one ship who lands litterally everywhere....
You enter an extreme environment, and you are warned that your suit isn't rated for such use. I mean, you can go out, but you will probably burn/freeze to death or whatever it is that your suit/ship can't handle
Ah ok. Ill need to check out that ship lol
Tony loves talking, and I love hearing him talk.
I feel like the devs are hearing this for the first time too.
Haha, I know making games is long and hard, but I see this taking forever.
Kael well a large part of this dev team is that they will take their time to make as quality a game as they can.
Kael given how fast this is being developed, you can't call it slow for another 5 years.
If you told me this video was recorded 4 years ago, I'd believe you.
+thekaxmax 2010
Kael It seems forever, because you never seen a games development from the beginning. Usually its 1/2-1 years before release when we hear about games. 4 years are not really long for an MMO + a single player game.
always great to hear Chris talk!
Aw yeahhhhh, Tony and Chris in the same video, a great indicator of quality info
"you know" it!
kay givs And you know that he knows that you know that he know it! yay
I don't know you know
We need more of this.
The Nerdy Negro Love your name, dude :)
Quantum for "10's of minutes". Yay! I really feel this is important to create the feeling of a universe. It must take hours to get across the universe.
Elite Dangerous got them beat by making you stare at loading screen for 7 days to get to the other part of slightly different colored planet on the other side of the universe. ED the only game where 80% of game time is the game mechanics of making you stare at loading screen.
+cpypcy, SC is, unlike ED, completely seamless and is not going to have loading screens in the PU (it will be streaming). And at least you aren't stuck to the cockpit chair all the time and can just go fool around the ship with the mobiglass, jukebox, etc. or check on the subsystems while you wait. Personally for me, the local physics grids make it enjoyable. The sensation of walking around the bridge of the ship as it flies around is unlike any other game experience.
I want to do some space trucking and I want to start in slow ship that takes forever to truck across the galaxy. Or I can choose quicker but more dangerous routes. The whole trip shouldn't just be like 10 mins. I want adventure where I have to refuel and fix components along the way. Then when I make money I get to upgrade my ship engines that make it faster.
Tony tries to talk so fast, it seems he wants to say so much more and tries to do so in the short time the show lasts xD So much passion! :)
Its 85 "you know", you're welcome!
I guess in the future they aren't coffee cup holders?
That's the 200 million stretch goal.
LazyPanda Coffee is banned in future. Turns out that the reason why so many people were dying in cancer at 21st century was because coffee multiplied the risk of cancer by 600%
Upon finding this out, smoking became cool again.
Brandon they're
Where we going, we don't need coffee cup holders...
Zaku II Zaki Setup and Homerun with that comment.
This answers a LOT of questions I was wondering about
This is the type of video I want. TAKE NOTES!
dev's discussing what's in the works, ideas and add more ideas on the spot.
I want this!
Not the community managers drinking coffee on streams talking about their day at home :P
THANK YOU!!! This was exactly what I needed! Last weeks ATV wasn't really my thing and got me dissapointed as it was the whole ATV. But anyway, thank you. I need more of this
Thank You Gents, for the release of solid info!
Some feedback to whoever set the volumes on this: It was too quiet. I was at work listening on headphones on my lunch break. Even with all volumes at 100% it was too quiet. That's RUclips, Chrome in the mixer, my output device, and the master volume. I don't generally have this issue, I think it was just exported at too quiet a volume.
Still don't know if they snapped completely and went insane, or if this is the most bold move ever done in the history of entertaining software development.
Bold move. Seemed quite unscripted and they were just talking freely about ideas they had mostly gone over during meetings, regarding the questions.
That is the part that scares me.
I can see why people are sceptic but I can also see why people are enthusiastic. I myself am enthusiastic about Star Citizen and backed it. It can all go downhill but I'm happy that they are trying to make it happen.
BigMagVideos if you never try, you never know!
It's a bold move. We have the technology now to make such things, that's why we are seeing lots of games like no man's sky or elite dangerous. And we need to remember that this is a crowd funded project, it's made not only with people's money but with their support as well. I think making this game is possible but people need to stay with them for a while (making a games is a long process, and pretty much building a company along the ways takes time too)
This was the best show they've produced. Lot's of info and nerdin out on SC.
I really wish we would be able to explore all of Star Citizen's cities, exploring every building, every alleyway, and land somewhere quite silly, and deal with the consequences of being hunted by security.
Oh well, maybe we shall see this added to the game in 10 years or something :P
Video Sage yes, you will. it's been specified. most of it's going to be boring, mind you.
Video shows one of the issues I have with the game: Casually mentioning something that clearly is going to require a lot of development. For example, I don't think most people would have a major issue if you went to a factory/city covered planet and it auto piloted you into the area where you can be. Nobody expects them to make a whole planet (even from the outside) that's a factory. But talking about how you can fly over certain areas, deviate a bit off the path, different gates and finally have to go through customs on foot... that's a lot of work for very little reward to most of the player base. We all want immersion, but dropping that casually seems like the people working on the game would scream at the screen "Good god no! What are you saying?!"
I don't really understand what you're saying honestly. Sounds like fun to me
Pls go back to your casual COD type game. We dont need it here.
It's a well documented issue with the development of the game. The feature sounds like fun, and I honestly think it would be great. However the game is 2 years late (finally moving along right) and if the interviews/reports are to be believed, mainly because of things like this.
Yes, the feature would be neat. But it's a TON of work for a game that is looking to release years late to begin with. Which is more work? A pre-programed path you fly down to a specific landing path, get out and go on your way. Or several paths that allow deviation and thus need to create a full city for, bugs related to people flying around and an airport/customs system coded/built. On its own, that's fine. But he's done similar things so many times it adds up. Think of the ships that get added regularly for specific purposes. A news ship for example that does in-game TV broadcasts. Creating a system where people can edit/broadcast video in game is a huge undertaking. He says these things, but they're a ton of work... which is the last thing you want in development. It's death by a thousand cuts.
They'll generate it procedurally. It can be done with buildings as well. Because you'll not get near, you won't notice
Twelvecarpileup given how fast this is being developed and comparing it to other big games, you can't call this late for another 5 years.
Love this Townhall. Good game mechanics discussion answered by the directors.
Do more videos like this, i like it. I can wait.
When they start to get there this game is really going to be pretty amazing but its still going to take a while thats for sure.
Nice, thanks guys!
CAN YOU COLONIZE A PLANET FOR YOURSELF OR GUILD/CLAN
jo mo mo man I think that'd be so cool tho . If a planet is rich in resources you should be able to set up base, study the planet gather intel etc
that would be epic
Colonize, no, not by yourself anyway, but with the scale of the planets, you should be able to set up a small base on a planet.
It's already been mentioned that they're thinking about having the ability to claim a city/planet or location one a planet that's not been found before, if you do you can sell the location on to merchants, miners etc. or keep it hidden and keep the rewards for that area for yourself, if you defend it.
Would be kinda disappointing if not, Otherwise dropships (like my prowler) got minimal usage than showing off
Great town hall guys! I know repetitive questions are a bother, so feel free to screen those and state please watch X video. Love it!
Best Game ever ! I bought Aroura MR ! it's great to be in SC and thanks for explaining the upcoming game developments it's phenomenal and amazing to watch you guys!!💫
Good awareness raised there: A hired NPC on a multicrew ship can be a disconnect insurance. If your ISP disconnects you while you fly around in an asteroid field with your Connie, your NPC copilot can prevent you from ramming into a rock until the ship despawns.
But of course, if your connection is notoriously bad, you can also adapt your piloting habits to that, e.g. by never flying directly at an object but always aiming next to it into empty space. This would probably be a realistic part of flight training anyway, because if you suddenly fall unconscious for some reason, you could die in a huge explosion, and potentially also harm others.
Regarding service beacons it would need to be decided whether they are like a big lighthouse or more direct comm. I'd assume that service beacon transmissions are secured so you'd need a Herald or such to actively detect a distress call. And if you're outside of comm array range there would probably be listening installations for picking up distress signals so that eventually civilization WILL know about your emergency. Just maybe after some hacker picked it up.
This far through development and it still sound like these guys are talking about how they imagine things will work.
The guys seem so passionate. !!!!
Love it! Cant wait and awesome work guys!
Awesome video, Thanks guys.
When someone disconnects while he is in combat he could be replaced by an AI. That would not save his ship if he disconects intentionally, but the ship is not lost immediately after he disconnects unintentionally.
I effing love the look of the Endeavor.
You know...I have a feeling of deja vu. Like i saw this interview in the past.
wheres the 3.0 Q&A and about networking ? :( would think that someone would ask that
What specifically do you need to know about networking that they haven't already addressed? The majority of the current code will be replaced in 3.0, that's been known for several months.
I played a bit in 2.6 on a multicrew ship, just running turrets and popping out in EVA with a friendly player I met online. Was a lot of fun, though still laggy...particularly during jump. We didn't really do anything, but it was still fun.
Take your time guys! don't worry about time lines. Just make the best game you possibly can. I will be happy to wait.
Appreciated this segment. Normally I'm not as into the developer diary stuff, but this answered some questions I had, and gave some tantalizing new ideas that I hope make it into the game. Now finish 3.0 plsplspls :P
can't wait till 2050 to play this!!!
Sry in the Moment he said "you cant go there because you have not the right equipment to resist the radiation" i thought a few moment on No Mans Sky :/
Jan p
Jan except in no man sky radiation is the exact same thing as a freezing planet or blistering planet
Jan SSSHHHHHHH! Don't speak that name in the comment section of such a game!
too many games let those sorts of things happen too easily. I'll just watch from the distance and pray this game doesn't do the same.
Jan The best way to think about it, in the case of Star Citizen is; you're not stopped from going there by some invisible wall, you won't fade to black or be forced away. However, just like in real life, you'll be entirely able to go to that inhospitable environment, or fly through that violent sandstorm, but you better be ready to face the consequences if you/your ship isn't equipped for it.
patience,they aim something that no other gaming industri dare or achive,don't rush it just because some people who can't wait something that they will never forget,a journey,promise and a vision from robert,it takes time to make something big especialy if see what already star citizen can achive and their future vision,patiencd is a virtue and a leader without vision will be doubt,but robert he has clear vision,big passion and big dream for us to enjoy and something for robert to achive and proud to give something that any gaming industri never given.
Wanna see a planet like crematoria (?) from riddick
MrStubbs1981 pretty sure they'll have that.
Would like to see one myself too. A location that will burn you and your ship if you don't get to the dark side of the planet by sunrise.
I belive these three planets will be quite close to the environment of the Crematoria:
Tat’Ko in the Geddon system:
starcitizen.tools/Tat%27Ko
Oso I in the Oso system:
starcitizen.tools/Oso_I
Pyro III in the Pyro system
starcitizen.tools/Pyro_III
I want to see huge canyons and caverns to fly around, they'll make flying around planetside or around a particularly large asteroid much more interesting, they're ideal places for all sorts of outposts ( a good excuse to fight over them ) and great environments to race in.
satannstuff large asteroids with caves or tunnels through them and the odd Mynark (sp) would be cool too, but I love the idea of fiery planets in the sun with sunrise meaning you have to hide underground. Hopefully we will se plenty of variety of xenomorphs also apart from the given alien races. I'm thinking Aliens facehuggers and queen variants/genesteelers/the ones from pitch black/ starship troopers /antlion types. They wouldn't need any backstory or language particularly. They could just inhabit certain environments. Doing that derelict star farer with an alien queen hiding in it...
Sounds great can't wait to start testing the bigger multicrew ships in 3.0!!
There was a campaign spaceship hovering over capital city, which is Maldraxxus flying Ziggurat which is a spaceship even if it does not look like a spaceship and does not have any engines anno since forever. In a similar place whole ensemble is having a say goodbye concert. In animation UI there is a keyword scenario, Warcraft made campaign levels and called them scenarios - atleast they know it because most of us does not use Blender daily if there is no clear goal to get a job or a community goal.
They sure love to talk over each other.
Maybe CIG should focus on actually delivering their plans. So far there is almost NOTHING in the PU. I can also sit and talk about stuff I would implement in a game but it's worth nothing until I actually deliver.
Petr Peller they've delivered a bunch. if you're bored in the pu you aren't looking in the right places.
It's called Pre-Alpha
Petr Peller as much as you're going to get flamed by fans, you're right. The PU is a gorgeous and empty place. You could do all there is to do in about 6 hours. That has been the case since 2.0 came out, except maybe it went from 5 hours of content to 6. That is if you can stay connected long enough. We waited a year and got some new ships and a broken FPS module.
Most game developers don't have to "deliver" anything until the whole game is ready and packaged. CIG is working with one hand tied, because they have to continually update a playable alpha for the backers, and run the servers like it's an actual game, when it's not even close to finished. If Rockstar let us play the alpha for GTA6, I'm sure people would complain that the game was taking too long. Which is why the average developer doesn't open their internal builds to the public, or give any thought to making those builds "fun" or "finished" in the short term.
indeed
Oh nice, survival elements. I always like those in games.
I like the limited persistence after someone logs off. One of the biggest complaints in E:D is "combat logging," where people will intentionally log out when they are losing a battle, in order to avoid the rebuy cost of their ship.
I love Tony Z so much. Case in point:
CR: Just a future goal from now, but we may have other currencies...
Tony: HERES HOW ITS GONNA WORK. I'VE ALREADY FIGURED IT OUT IN MY MIND.
For the first time, im starting to think that Star Citizen will never be finished. All of these interviews are always about what stuff will be like, even though said stuff is like 4 years away. You can just say whatever you want in these cases..."Yeah, there will be space Elephants and 3000 planets....you'll be able to have multiple bionic pets". Talking about what will be is easy, but not very interesting.
Jose Cano Well considering average game development times SC should be at least another 2 years away, as its much more complicated than the average MMOs which usually developed in 5-6 years.
NoxiousButtSpray its 24 since 2016 march....
Also noo need for sarcasm, they have great devs, half of Crytek, assuming they cannot improve the netcode (especially as they stated it comes in the next patches) is plain dumb.
i feel like some of the answers were like, "you know we would prob do something like this", doesnt all seem pre-planned.
Is the full release still supposed to be set for 2017? Because it seems like they still have at least a few years of work ahead of them.
sounds good
Could we be able to control more than one ship at the same time ? I mean, at least control them with prederminated orders or with AI.
no
Probably not directly, but there's no reason you can't have an AI fly one of your other ships and you give them orders "Form up on my wing" and they will just stay by your side as much as possible.
Alphα can you drive multiple cars at the time?
@Austin Welch That's the way I thought. Like many other space strategy games. Especially X3 trilogy for whos already know it.
Not over a fleet I'm sure perhaps 1 or 2 other ships via NPC's. Although, I doubt it would be a good idea considering the cost of hiring them and the risk to the player losing multiple ships. Another point is NPC's will not perform as well as players. Last 1 player can't see everything that is going on so if they tell the npcs defend me the ships defending could be engaged by ships that are just a decoy while the real threat comes from another side.
The question about planets that are covered by city/factory they did not answer correctly.. The question was HOW is the player going to be able to walk about the planet openly when the planet is entirely covered by city structures?
The idea is that we should be able to walk off a ship and walk all the way around the planet ending up where we started....
How does that work on planets covered by a city entirely???
Next, If I OWN a ship and have other people onboard and I log out, what happens to MY ship I own? Do I have to make sure all players are off my ship?
What if I am on a ship that continues on a mission but I cannot log in for days... when I log back in will I then still find myself loading back on that ship later to the surprise of the owner?
Imagine the frame rates for that planet - I doubt it'll be entire planets covered in 1 major city.
You must not be familiar with Star Citizen. There are already planets of this kind. In fact you can visit one now in game although you are kept from exploring outside the city center area and stores at this time.
Area18 (ArcCorp): Originally designed as a test for planetside interactions, Area18 is an ultra-detailed cityscape for you and your friends to explore, go shopping, or just see the sights.
The planet (s) covered in buildings will not be full explorable and will only have set landing locations. Arc corp for example will have a set number of locations for you to explore. This question has been answered a few times before.
they already told us that is not every planet that is possible to land and walk, this kind of heavily colonized planet is only possible to land im a "hub", for example in ArcCorp you will only be able to land on Area18.
I know we will have specific landing areas for certain planets like ArcCorp. However they also have said we would be able to pretty much go anywhere on a planet using rovers, on foot etc.. Guess we will find out exactly what that entails when it happens.
The Camera is Panning!
Video Team Got An Upgrade! Hooray!
This game is Awesome!!!! Cant wait!
Tony Zurovec actually looks like what I imagine a DEV to look like.
You always talk with PvP in mind, but I remember there being an option to go PvE or even solo if you wanted to. That's still in, right?
I believe the PVE/PVP slider was abandoned but since like 90% of the verse is NPCs the PVP is going to gravitate towards lawless systems.
You can still solo but you will need NCPs if you expect to run a larger ship with any effectiveness.
Nicolas De Raedt you can turn it down in most places
Play Squadron 42 for pve noob
What don't people understand about this? If you want to stay safe, slash away from PvP.. stay near Earth !
+Dean Fabris (MrGamesDean) yeah casual babbies wont be leaving UEE systems while the adventurous will be exploring lawless space.
As it should be.
Most curious about progress with NPC navigation and how they would overcome transitioning from one specific craft to another, a la boarding parties, or deal with zero-g environments.
I Hope the power system lets us do things like hotwire power from one system to another....Jury rigged repairs. Invader knocks out life support, we figure out to reroute our sensor power (or something) to keep it running.
How to get to a save area:
1) Blind jump a bit
2) Log out
3) ?
4) Profit
Meuduso1 As they said jumping won't be that easy. But yes, you can put in some random coordinates and jump and then log off safely
Meuduso1 can't do that from in combat
There could be long range sensors in the future, to allow people to see you even if you blind jump. Depends on how stealthy your ship is.
Wait you can't jump while in combat? But I can jump away if pirates in the PU attack me. Is that going to change?
I think the Terrapin will have that kind of sensor
Love the game so far, hope I'll be playing the final version before I'm social security though. 2018??? 2019???? 2020!!?????
Lonnie Farrare 2020 probably
Would be awesome when you build a outpost and your hit by a storm that rages on for a long time and then something get's destroyed out side en you need to put on your suit to fix it in the storm.
Static Shot.
Cameraperson:
It's a Static Shot.
A lot of people are talking about how this is to ambitious, but I've been developing games for a long time, I even worked on the game snake( y'know the one where you eat stuff and grow) and that games used a lot of the same tech that SC is using (especially the planetary landings) so don't worry every one, the tech is there. :)
You should have an option to buy secondhand ships but the risk involved would be a set of random missing parts. For example, missing weapons that you'll have to buy on your own or missing jump drive or missing cooling unit. Just an idea.
Every time i imagine these things and think about it im sad its soooooooo loooong till we get there! But i think 3.0 will be the first major thing when i will be spending many hours ingame.
I have an idea about the online. To start off, I do not know much about making games so I don't know if this is possible.
OK here it goes: imagine while you were playing, your character gathers information about your playstyle and what not. then when you log out your character switches to an AI character and it plays in a similar way to how you would play. this would allow your characters to play with your friends when they need a crew. you would also earn some of the award while you're away. I feel like this could change the game play significantly
now imagine while you are away from your character it still exists in PU doing the job that it is set up to do (mining, transport, etc). other characters will interact with your character, sending a message to your phone giving you the option to react.
also imagine your character has a cargo route that he is following while you are at work. an actual player playing as a pirate attacks your ship. So you open up a 2d layout of your ship showing your AI and the intruders. then you can give your AI orders to protect your ship
That's a cool idea.
IIRC, CR mentioned in some stream, that he did not like the idea of a player owning, lets say 10 NPC ships that would mine/transport cargo for him 24/7, while the player is offline. This would be allmost like macroing or automining.
Big ORG's could do that though, but just with actual people playing.
You could have NPC's hired in your ship and defend it, in case you get disconnected or die during an attack/raid and the NPC's could win the fight and let you get your ship back later on..unharmed.
Matthew Manning but by doing this you are taking away control from the player. if you log back in to realise half your assets are destroyed because your Ai alter ego went for a joy ride for a miniscule amount of credits... well, I would be pissed. don't know about you. and tbh, this would probably be not worth it, because you would need the extra processing power server side to maintain active persistence for every single player. not to mention what would happen if you log back in and your Ai has got you stranded in the middle of nowhere for God knows what reason. just wouldn't be worthwhile from either a design or technical standpoint.
Cool idea, but yeah. Probably very difficult and risky to implement :P
Maybe they should always put a "technician" in the background that, at every "new idea" just goes nuts in despair.
Don't get me wrong, i too want a game that has everything, but how realistic is that.
I can see this turning into Eve Online with 90% of the people online opting to be Pirates griefing the 10% who just want to "Care Bear" like Mining, Exploring, Missions/Questing etc.
How works the boundy hunting ? is there a death or alive option? How can I force a player to climb into the small cells of my avenger?
Paranoia stun target...interact key/button on downed enemy ... select 'store in my closest ship'.... maybe?
Naughty Nimitz or one will have to place them in restraints, drag them/load them into a vehicle, get them to their ship, and then put them some where like a holding cell... or closet.
Paranoia holding cell is lockup. use stunner to get them in
How many you know did you count i lost track:) love to listen Tony :)
I would love to see some "civilization" type of gameplay. Lets say you discover a planet and have enough money to pay for the service of a colony of npcs that can farm, dig, build, etc. As for the lore it will get really interesting the type of families/factions and products/inventions that can come from civilisation building.
They haven't ruled-out other games in different genres set in the same fictional universe. So I would think some thing like that is more likely to be a separate game.
Nice!
Though I'd love to see it implemented into the mmo.
There should be a chain of command system so when the captains off the ship the next in line is acting captain until he gets back and so on and so forth.
Well, they mentioned that there will be some kind of permission based system in place, you give your number 2 permission to pilot/command and then it's reasonable to assume that he's gonna be in command while you're away.
when are we gonna get the sq 42 demo ? its been like 4 months.
When it's ready
They figured it was more important to fix the actual issues rather than trying to do work-arounds for one demo. Specifically: It was primarily the AI-subsumption which wasn't fully operational for the demo, so they used placeholders which looked out-of-place. Hence, it was better to fix things for the game and skip the demo. My guess is they will redo the demo once the functional AI systems and such are in-place.
Chris Roberts looks like he's falling asleep lol
God I really hope they can implement all this..I enjoy it already but SC is going to be unbelievable if they can pull it off
I swear it sounds like Sean Murray talking.
Only issue I see with the "de-persist the ship if everyone logs off" is the bigger (not capitol ships, they have different rules) multi crew ships like a starfarer. :P
If one person stays and everyone goes to sleep for example, then that one person has to protect the ship while everyone's character is... sleep?
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These fuckers are discussing a game i've been dreaming about since the rubber keyed speccy days. What a time to be alive :)
Fuckers where I come from is a compliment btw, don't be getting all butthurt
lets see what 3.0 brings us... so far its just a lot of talking...
Dont worry, we will see 3.0 sometime in the third quarter of the century.
Oh how original. jesus can you just keep that pessimistic attitude away from Star citizen? Cause to people who actually do their research you sound like a absolute tool
MyMMC given what they've already done, do you really think Chris will let 3.0 to go out with no changes?
+MyMMC I know what you mean.
Brandon some people here follow completly blind. they start to believe that this will be a "live simulator" or something... making incredible unrealistic claim about this game... ive spend over 300 dollars in this game, which is alot for my standards and i csnt wait to see more. but some people should stay realistic and should stop believing everything without evidence.
will ships have r2d2 type repair systems for the outer hull?
I can see this game shipping on a hard drive.
If they keep referencing Star Wars, Disney is gonna smite their asses.
careful Hi-Rez will get you
I just noticed that the clouds are not volumetric.....
But that's okay
Is space weather (ion, plasma storms) specified as part of the persistent universe?
On a side note, what is the expected playing cost of the game? Are they doing a monthly subscription, and if so, what's the anticipated cost of that?
I'm no expert, but without a sustainable influx of cash, the game cannot move forward. If it's solely a purchase price, then we'll be flooded with expansions each year to keep the income flow up. This would be more inline with like a console game, versus a MMORPG , that has a monthly ~$15 subscription. I asked the question because I didn't know, but I can't imagine they'd move forward relying solely on the purchase price (which all backers have already paid for any way).
bpmiller87 I am sure there will be cash coming into the game in expansions. Like wow does. But they have said their would be no monthly subs. They have no publisher to pay so that should help. Plus they will make a lot from SQ42 1/2/3 etc... should be enough to keep the people on the payroll plus they said they will sell in game cash for real cash.
Sounds like the boys have been watching Enemy Mine lol.
woooow cant wait to go through customs at the spaceport.....
replacing fuses,maintaining durability bars = tedium. I dont mind SOME survival and realism elements but please make sure they arnt integral to the gameplay loop.
Oh boy, looking forward to some epic John Rourke #ClearSkies recreations, "i've got more than one pre-recorded message begging for help" type lines
survival confirmed
If someone disconnects, then making their player "pass out", until they are reconnected, "wake uo". would be good.
Shepard that's what it does
Quick question what happens if you get stranded on a planet and you log off, would you then respawn on that planet if you log back on.
Exploit? If someone manages to "tag along" your ship or comes across your ship after you log, you can keep their ship from de-spawning by boarding and thus taking over an empty ship? Might be a good idea to sweep your ship (inside and out) to make sure you don't have a stow away.
Pause it at 36:16 guys. There you have them! The Gods of SC; their dream, our reality. ;) See you guys in 3.0.