The more i see of these toy haulers the more i like them.. Lot of pluses there , cost is right , easy to park , easy to tow and gives one all the protection from the elements one could ask for .. There is a lot to be said there in my book .. I have a couple friends that went that direction and made the conversion to RV.. Why not i figure , it's the best of two worlds it looks like to me ..
We tow ours (as recently as today) down some mighty rough cattle trails (they call them roads here in Nevada) and it stays together just fine. You have to be careful of the manufacturer the same as anything else, but there's a lot of good ones out there.
@@gonagain Summers been great. I had West Coast Roller come up for the weekend and had a great time. Drove him around the Gifford Pinchot NF and showed the sights. Great guy, video to follow. I'm home now and have a lot of catchup to do. I'm looking at exploring the Eastern end of the state before too much longer. I'll let you know when if a meetup will fit your guys schedule. Take care
Thanks for showing all your hard work! I live in SW Montana and anticipate buying this exact size cargo trailer to convert for camping. Please continue to show all your modifications as they are so helpful.
I have been watching quite a few videos as I am preparing to buy and convert a trailer for living space. This video series is by far the best I have come across.
Hi Rick, Hello Linda. Yup, I'm watching this build for the second time. I find it Fun and it helps me to remember certain things that I did on my rig, as I didn't take notes while building mine. So it's kinda double-duty to watch & write down the steps used etc., and log them into my build diary for future reference. And, it's good to see Y'all being nice and working together so productively. 👊 Today is 3/13/23 👋
Always Awesome to see a family get together and team tackle a project that helps someone in the family out! Looks like youve inspired another generation of boondockers😁
They are adventurers at heart, having been raised on a sailboat and taken on many roadtrips too. They're not afraid of a little work either! Thanks Sean.
This video is very interesting. I would have not thought too much about the type of insulation, but someone recently told me that "foam" type insulation is bad for human health. I haven't done any deep research on that yet, but apparently some of the chemicals used are pretty bad. So I was happy to see that you used different materials for this. Love seeing the family teamwork most of all! I think all of us would love to see that sort of family engagement.
Your dad and family did a GREAT JOB on insulation. I took lots of notes. NOW if I could just get my cargo trailer to Montana and your Dad's house. LOL.... Blessings
It's best the kids do most of the work. They will take pride in their accomplishment, and they'll have first hand knowledge of how it was all put together when the time comes that something needs fixing/tweaking. Look forward to the windows and other plans they have for it in future episodes.
Another great video! We're just getting ready to pull the trigger and actually get our cargo trailer, so this is just at the right time! We really appreciate those who have done a build-out freely sharing information and being so specific. ~ Kir in Tennessee
Really nice to have so much help to supervise. You are doing a great job of supervision ... like you, I love work ... I can sit and watch it for hours! Great family activity!
You guys are great. I am slowly but surely acquiring the "thru wall/roof" items for my 7x16 enclosed. I want to have all the items installed so the 1" x 1 1/2" rectangular tube reinforcement pieces can be welded in before insulating and re-paneling. It will only be me doing the work as it stands now and it is rather hot here in NC right now. We also have the obligatory afternoon summer thunderstorms that show up like clockwork. Since at 62 in heart failure and not doing well in the heat and humidity, late fall is looking good to me. Thanks for sharing your family time and all of the videos you have put so much effort into.
I have watched your traveling and camping videos and have really enjoyed them. But watching this video I discovered grew up 2 blocks for you on 4th! Keep up the great videos!
A lot of FUN work as long as you're not in a hurry. Sometimes just sitting IN the trailer, having a beer, just thinking of what you can live with OR what you can live WITHOUT!!!! There are a lot of things that can be added as time and MONEY ALLOWS!!
Hi Dennis. That's the nice thing about these trailers in that you can do them at your leisure. We've also changed quite a few things over the years too.
@@gonagain one thing I know is is your better half will make ALL final decisions. You might have to figure out HOW to do it, but damn sure she'll have the final say!!!!
Fun watching your family all work together. Helps to see it from the beginning. I like the way you insulated the floor. Have seen people lay it on the inside and cover with plywood, but then you lose some ceiling height.
How exciting-loved you & Linda! Wow-loving the family together even more. Will be eagerly waiting for windows & vent. I thank you all for allowing me to go on this adventure ! Gods blessings
As a construction professional with 30 plus years under his belt let me tell you that your shinny side in or out theory is right on. I used spray insulating foam on the underneath, I’m not as dedicated as you are. Lol, great job
Roger l have a trailer too. Can you tell me more abt the insulation spray you used. Was it professionally applied or did you do it? Does it come in spray cans or a nozzle like used from a compressor? If you have links l can see, pls can you share them? Thanks. Herb from Pennsylvania.
Thank you for giving the reason behind your decisions. Great tip on sealing the inside so moisture does get to interior side of metal siding causing condensation. Also liked that you included a segment on the floor insulation process.
I just got my trailer 2 weeks ago and they had insulated it and was using it as a camp trailer just like you do. It is a 6 X 10 single axle and they put a FAN, three lights and TWO windows! It also has TWO 6 volts 235 AH golf cart batteries! I will add a 25 watt HF solar panel to charge them back up. There is a platform for a 6 X 6 bed or then flip it back up for ATV of motorbike! But this hot summer in NV (98* EVERY DAY) it is just going to be a storage. I can't wait to try it out! I Hope she has fun too!
HEY! That trailer is exactly the same as the one I just bought. Same brand, color and size. It's really great to see what the skeleton looks like before I start tearing in mine. Nice family you have there. And a great informative video!
I’m picking up a new 7x14x7 this week. Going prep it for a trip to Western Montana in August / September. I currently live in Western North Carolina but graduated from the University of Montana. Looking forward to visiting old friend and going back to Glacier!
Great video. How exciting your daughter building out her own trailer. It will be fun to watch the whole evolution of her build. You are planning to document the whole process? Hope so. Keep up the great work. In the meantime, have fun, stay safe and stay healthy!
@@gonagain out in the dirt. Put a blue tarp down then moving blankets. The moving blanket won't get as dirty. But it will wad up under you much easier unfortunately.
Hi! I suggest adding a layer of the quarter inch Foamular fan-fold insulation that's designed for re-siding jobs to eliminate the direct heat conduit through the trailer's skin and frame. It will help with noise as well.
Hi Rick, thanks for showing this video. I’ve priced 6x10 cargo trailers here in Jersey. If you mention an aluminum trailer they say they don’t carry them. It seems if look west and south of me the dealers have them. I’m seeing prices from $1900 to $3200 for a new trailer. Thanks for showing how to put the insulation in. I knew it was a lot of work.
Hi Thomas. I've seen some pictures of really poorly built cargo trailers and a favorite forum topic is on how to find a quality built one. A little research before you lay your money down is a good idea along with a close inspection before you accept delivery. The insulation is easy because it light and clean to work with. Two people can do this size trailer in one day easily.
Hi Thomas, l live in the northwestern part of Chester County, PA near Honey Brook. There's a cargo trailer builder named Burkholders on 322...see burkholdertrailers.com/ They make all aluminium cargo trailers. It's an easy ride from NJ and nice too as you are near the PA Douch country where Chester n Lancaster counties meet.
@@gonagain found an RV wrecker, three small screen sliders installed, one large in rear door, saves a ton compared to the dealership. Hint look at slide out campers, the windows on those are sheltered and in new shape!
Those ceiling panels are vinyl coated. If you need to cut or drill, it won't easily splinter and they're easy to clean. The plastic channels are likely attached via VHB. Mine, in a high-end trailer are the same. Nice inclusion by the manufacturer.
I was pleased when my daughter brought this trailer home and I saw those panels already installed. That saves a lot of work! Thanks for watching, Keeb!
The hinge bolts should be *carriage* bolts not bolts with hex heads on them. If the insulation fills the gap completely then it does not matter as much which side the foil is on but mine was a little thinner than the space I was filling so you put the foil facing the gap (inside) so it REFLECTS heat back in. If it's touching the outside metal wall it CONDUCTS which is what you try to avoid. But as a rule it goes against the wood which is a lower mass than the aluminum skin so it wont conduct as much. So you did it right . . . :o) You always do great videos . . . always plenty of food for thought.
Your probably past this part of work. After I taped I ran 3" wide strips of reflexics along frame rails to keep cold from passing through frame directly to paneling. just snug screws firmly ,it will leave plenty of air space between paneling and frame. Nice to have a work party.
Yes! It must be nice to have so much help. I’m on the bottom insulation part of mine now too! But, I’m doing everything solo. With not much construction experience. And a time deadline to boot! Please pray fo rme… Thx
Great channel, just found you! This is such a useful set of videos for anyone ready to get a trailer but want to save money (and possibly time of ordering one to spec). Just subbed, looking forward to seeing the final result!
I actually put a coat of primer for galvanized metal (with fungicide mixed in) on the inside of the skin. Then I put 2 coats of thermal barrier (homemade lizardskin) on the skin & 1 layer on the back of the XPS.
The aluminum frame is a huge plus. That is a well built trailer. Now, what kind of suspension does it have? The only other video of yours that I have watched was the one where you broke a leaf spring. A good suspension would be a Dexter Torflex or a Timbren system that uses the polyurethane compression blocks and trailing arms. As you well know, leaf springs don't hold up, cannot count the videos I've seen of them breaking on people and the trailer doesn't get a good ride which means it doesn't tow as well and is harder on the fasteners holding it together and your belongings inside.
I was going to go with a torsion arm axle as an upgrade, but the suspension shop talked me out of it. I was told they too break down just about as often and then they're more expensive to fix and get parts for. I'm holding off for now.
@@gonagain The Timbren axle-less suspension is a good idea. It bolts to the frame and you install a square tube crossmember to keep them in align. I would want thru spacers welded in the frame so as to keep from crushing the frame when you bolt it up, but its great design. timbren.com/c-1389196-products-axle-less-trailer-suspension.html A second possibility is Sumo Springs for trailers, as they will carry some of the load and keep the leaf spring from being so heavily loaded. They also help dampen the spring action. These work with leaf springs, over or under the axle, different kits, for over/under and different weights. www.supersprings.com/trailer-sumosprings
I've looked at the Timbren and had thought about going with that, but i think something like the Sumo Springs you've pointed out better fit my needs. I'm sticking with the leaf springs because replacements are available most anywhere. Thanks!
it looks as if that OSB garbage will be staying on the floor. A coat of good floor/porch enamel paint would really add life and some water proofing to the top AND bottom of the floor panel. that'll be nice.
Hi Dufus, there's different grades of OSB and some are highly moisture resistant and can even be used below ground level. I know that our own trailer is about 6 years old and the OSB is fine but maybe other manufacturers don't use the better quality product.
Fun to watch the whole family work. My dog doesn't have thumbs so it's a little hard for me to get help. Questions: Why didn't you put in the vent and windows before insulation? Why not use two pieces of thinner insulation and have the shiny side on both sides?
Hi Jim. I find it easier to cut through all the layers at once when putting the windows in because the trailer skin has some rigidity when backed by the foam and the inside paneling and doesn't vibrate as much that way. Interesting idea on using two foil backed layers. Indeed, why not?
hahaha! Good for you Linda, put that height to your advantage! hahaha Oh, and good to see you finally put "Stretch" to work too! ;-) (are you sure you don't want at least one 120 vac convenience plug hiding somewhere???)
We've never had a need for 120 out here where we camp, but I can see where it would be important in other places or for other styles of traveling for sure. I did run a power cord through the window to help dry some paint once. Don't encourage Linda, a guy needs some rest once in awhile! Too late, she read this. Lol!
_You're correct! Those are supposed to have to aluminum towards the inside, no matter what. Outside of a house is still aluminum side towards inside too, or anything else._
@@AdamA-pm3yn okay since you don't seem to have any construction knowledge or background. I'm going to make it super simple for you. The aluminum side/ foiled is to decrease the heat or cool to the outside, while the white side/ polyiso goes to the exterior facing of the inner wall. There is air movement between the foil and wall; why? It not smooth. How do you think, and why would you use aluminum tape to seal up the polyiso panels/ foam broads? You don't use it on the white side. I guess you can if you're super small and slide down the inner wall. Hopes this helps you out.
You really don't need foil covered insulation in an aluminum trailer because the shell of the trailer is your radiant barrier. The heat inside will be convection heat so the highest R value is what you are after.
Really good thorough video on getting started on a cargo conversion.👍👍 I did foil out cause I live in a desert but not sure if it made any difference. Huge debate on that subject.😯
The inside of the trailer or van is so relatively small that having the foil on the outside isn't going to make much difference when it comes to heating the interior, but the reflective surface facing OUT should make a big difference in reflecting infrared rays to keep the heat down. This has been proven in home attics with a simple Mylar layer, like a space blanket, helping to keep things cool. I think you did the right thing.
howdy from the sunny ozarks rick!! excellent team work! why not use two thinner foam sheets with the shinny side out? i always learn from watching others whether its right or wrong? thanks for sharing your labor of love and looking forward to your follow up trailer built! who cooks for this awesome crew of yours? tight lines and cheers!
Phillip, they are all good cooks and that's why I have a hard time keeping the weight off. The only against using back to back panels is it's double the work and I'm lazy. Otherwise it's a great idea!
From Manufacturer. Question: When using reflective foil, which side should face the inside and outside? Answer: It depends on which way you want the heat to go. Put it on the side where you want the heat to radiate away from. If you want to keep a room warm, put it on the inside. If you want to cool a room, then put it on the outside. Winter or summer camping, Alaska or Arizona ?
Thanks for the awesome tips. I want to get a 6 x 10 as a support vehicle for a multi-family campsite. Mostly to haul stuff, but with a few pieces of equipment installed that must not overheat. So I was thinking of a mini air conditioner, and with that insulation becomes a must. A few thoughts on rigid insulation board. Three types are easily available: expanded polystyrene (bead board, what you used), extruded polystyrene, and polyisocyanurate (polyiso). The two polystyrene board types don't out gas and both have an R-value of R-5 per inch thickness. *The expanded stuff* is the lightest, typically comes faced with film or foil, can get knocked around and shed beads, is available with a fire-retardant treatment, and comes in white. *The extruded stuff* typically has the natural skinned surface from how it is made (no foils or films), you can get it in different densities (without affecting R-value much), it can be quite tough, it's almost impossible to find fire-retardant treated product in the USA, and comes in pink, blue, or green depending on the brand. *Polyiso* uses a different gas as an expanding agent, which gives you R-6.5 to R-7.0 per inch thickness, but it can also out gas if the factory didn't have their formulation dialed in quite right (so tape sealing is imperative). It comes with foil both sides or fiberglass reinforced paper both sides, is naturally fire retardant without any treatment, and is a cream color. For under the trailer I'd go with extruded polystyrene. Because of the toughness it'd suffer less damage from kicked up gravel. On the inside avoid the polyiso for a camper (people sleeping inside). For a camper either expanded or extruded polystyrene is hard to beat. However for my use as an air conditioned equipment trailer (not a camper) the superior R-value of the polyiso makes that a strong choice for the walls and ceiling. Your use of the foil tape is brilliant. Bravo.
May 23rd 2021 I watched your hula hoop shower video. Linda is right about the bucket. If the trailer wall will support the weight. Can you add a shelf that would hold the bucket , and fold down when not needed? What about the addition of a fitting or adaptation. Of tubing and a regular sink sprayer instead of the cup? If on the shelf, gravity fed? Would that work on a collapsible bucket? Any way. Love your adventures. Oh and what about this surprise spring SNOW! LOL.. See you around! 😁
Hello Gail, the only thing that would make your idea not work is the height of the ceiling in the trailer that would stop gravity feed from being possible. We had a visitor from India last week and when he saw the shower we told him it was Japanese furo style and he said "No, that's an Indian shower".
My old man was like this guy knowledgeable and kind , I miss him a lot , your lucky girl. Great show all of you and happy trails.👍🏻🇨🇦
The more i see of these toy haulers the more i like them.. Lot of pluses there , cost is right , easy to park , easy to tow and gives one all the protection from the elements one could ask for .. There is a lot to be said there in my book .. I have a couple friends that went that direction and made the conversion to RV.. Why not i figure , it's the best of two worlds it looks like to me ..
We tow ours (as recently as today) down some mighty rough cattle trails (they call them roads here in Nevada) and it stays together just fine. You have to be careful of the manufacturer the same as anything else, but there's a lot of good ones out there.
That's going to be a nice little getaway camp trailer. Very nice that it's a family effort.
They're fun to be around. Hope you're doing well and enjoying your summer!
@@gonagain Summers been great. I had West Coast Roller come up for the weekend and had a great time. Drove him around the Gifford Pinchot NF and showed the sights. Great guy, video to follow. I'm home now and have a lot of catchup to do. I'm looking at exploring the Eastern end of the state before too much longer. I'll let you know when if a meetup will fit your guys schedule. Take care
@@CITAP1 keep us posted.
What an ornery laugh when he was interviewed, LOL. Family time on a project creates great memories too. Appreciate the video, thanks!
You have a beautiful family sir. Thank you for showing me how to go about insulating a cargo trailer.
Thank you for watching John!
Hello neighbors & fellow travelers! I love your content, it's both refreshing and practical. Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much!
This channel is great!! This couple really seem to know what is what
Thanks, Jiggle Billy. Appreciate the comment!
That was a fun couple of days, working with the family!
There's more work to come, stick around!
Good you had helpers! I'm 68 and lifting ceiling panels was killing me until I bought a used drywall lifter. It was my "third hand!"
When hanging drywall a lifter is so nice to have.
Thanks for showing all your hard work! I live in SW Montana and anticipate buying this exact size cargo trailer to convert for camping. Please continue to show all your modifications as they are so helpful.
Will do Scout!
I have been watching quite a few videos as I am preparing to buy and convert a trailer for living space. This video series is by far the best I have come across.
Glad it was helpful Mike!
I’m getting ready to purchase a 7x16 all Aluminium tandem axle trailer myself and this video series is so helpful and I will be watching !!!
Things never change, the women do almost all the work
So glad to see Linda is back in action. MGB
Enjoy hearing about what you did when you were younger. IT IS "TIME FOR LUNCH" for me too!
You guys could make a 1 hour video and it still would not be enough. Love you guys, come back soon!
Thank you Mark!
Thoughts and prayers for you and Linda with the healing of her ankle and the renewed faith to get back on the bike 🚲
Hi Rick, Hello Linda. Yup, I'm watching this build for the second time. I find it Fun and it helps me to remember certain things that I did on my rig, as I didn't take notes while building mine. So it's kinda double-duty to watch & write down the steps used etc., and log them into my build diary for future reference. And, it's good to see Y'all being nice and working together so productively. 👊 Today is 3/13/23 👋
Thanks for watching it again. We've worked together all our married life; and that's a long time! Wow.
@@gonagain Cool, and that falls under the heading: Happy Campers, Right??? Absolutely. 👊 Bravo 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Always Awesome to see a family get together and team tackle a project that helps someone in the family out! Looks like youve inspired another generation of boondockers😁
They are adventurers at heart, having been raised on a sailboat and taken on many roadtrips too. They're not afraid of a little work either! Thanks Sean.
This video is very interesting. I would have not thought too much about the type of insulation, but someone recently told me that "foam" type insulation is bad for human health. I haven't done any deep research on that yet, but apparently some of the chemicals used are pretty bad. So I was happy to see that you used different materials for this. Love seeing the family teamwork most of all! I think all of us would love to see that sort of family engagement.
Kids have a great leader!
Your dad and family did a GREAT JOB on insulation. I took lots of notes. NOW if I could just get my cargo trailer to Montana and your Dad's house. LOL.... Blessings
Cool video. I love the family working together.
I do too. Thanks Dean!
Beautiful Family!
Yup we used foamboard and that tape too when we did ours. Awesome you have so much help. I need to get caught up on these vids. I'm behind.
Good video. Cargo trailers make great campers.
Yes they do because they don't come apart at the seams like regular trailers.
@@gonagain
Exactly.
Yes they are much more robust....made to be used by a contractor!!
Nice work! What a great family. You raised them right! Such great progress. Thanks for sharing!
It's nice to have them around. Thanks 29Roadie!
You have been blessed with a wonderful family. Thank you for your video's.
You used the right term, "blessed". Thank you Bebe and John.
Super cool mom, fantastic family. Enjoy you build, and many enjoyable yrs with your toy.
It's best the kids do most of the work. They will take pride in their accomplishment, and they'll have first hand knowledge of how it was all put together when the time comes that something needs fixing/tweaking. Look forward to the windows and other plans they have for it in future episodes.
I'm glad that they like to do things like this together. Thanks Eric!
Another great video! We're just getting ready to pull the trigger and actually get our cargo trailer, so this is just at the right time! We really appreciate those who have done a build-out freely sharing information and being so specific. ~ Kir in Tennessee
There's more coming Ron, so stay tuned!
Really nice to have so much help to supervise. You are doing a great job of supervision ... like you, I love work ... I can sit and watch it for hours! Great family activity!
I've learned when I need to stay out of the way. Thanks for tuning in!
You guys are great. I am slowly but surely acquiring the "thru wall/roof" items for my 7x16 enclosed. I want to have all the items installed so the 1" x 1 1/2" rectangular tube reinforcement pieces can be welded in before insulating and re-paneling. It will only be me doing the work as it stands now and it is rather hot here in NC right now. We also have the obligatory afternoon summer thunderstorms that show up like clockwork. Since at 62 in heart failure and not doing well in the heat and humidity, late fall is looking good to me. Thanks for sharing your family time and all of the videos you have put so much effort into.
Thanks for watching Ernest. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be welding in the heat and humidity either.
I enjoyed watching you all working, more than I'm going to enjoy insulating my Haulmark trailer conversion. TAKE CARE..
You're going to be one happy camper when it's done though!
I have watched your traveling and camping videos and have really enjoyed them. But watching this video I discovered grew up 2 blocks for you on 4th! Keep up the great videos!
Neighbors! Thanks for watching Steve.
A lot of FUN work as long as you're not in a hurry. Sometimes just sitting IN the trailer, having a beer, just thinking of what you can live with OR what you can live WITHOUT!!!! There are a lot of things that can be added as time and MONEY ALLOWS!!
Hi Dennis. That's the nice thing about these trailers in that you can do them at your leisure. We've also changed quite a few things over the years too.
@@gonagain
one thing I know is is your better half will make ALL final decisions. You might have to figure out HOW to do it, but damn sure she'll have the final say!!!!
It's still applicable today. Great job
Fun watching your family all work together. Helps to see it from the beginning. I like the way you insulated the floor. Have seen people lay it on the inside and cover with plywood, but then you lose some ceiling height.
I put it underneath on my trailer because it only has 6' of height, but it worked so well that we did it on this one also.
i just bought a trailer to convert into my plant shop... your videos are very helpful :)
Good luck on your build Megan!
How exciting-loved you & Linda! Wow-loving the family together even more. Will be eagerly waiting for windows & vent. I thank you all for allowing me to go on this adventure ! Gods blessings
Stay tuned, those videos are on the way.
Such a lovely family. So glad I discovered this channel. Cheers from northern the Minnesota/ Canadian border 🌲
One of these days we need to tour your area. I'll be sure to bring my canoe.
As a construction professional with 30 plus years under his belt let me tell you that your shinny side in or out theory is right on. I used spray insulating foam on the underneath, I’m not as dedicated as you are. Lol, great job
Thanks Roger!
Roger l have a trailer too. Can you tell me more abt the insulation spray you used. Was it professionally applied or did you do it? Does it come in spray cans or a nozzle like used from a compressor? If you have links l can see, pls can you share them? Thanks. Herb from Pennsylvania.
Herb Lapp I had a company spray it, 1$ per inch per square foot in Canada
Great seeing the family working as one, as we ought to work. Congratulations and thank you for sharing.
Our pleasure cdLady54!
This is a labor of love. Enjoy the project.
Still trying to figure out the shack absorber solution...
Such a beautiful family...bless your family with peace...so fine to see...glad you shared...thanks...🤗
Thank you Joe.
Thank you for giving the reason behind your decisions. Great tip on sealing the inside so moisture does get to interior side of metal siding causing condensation. Also liked that you included a segment on the floor insulation process.
Thanks for watching Stuart!
I just got my trailer 2 weeks ago and they had insulated it and was using it as a camp trailer just like you do.
It is a 6 X 10 single axle and they put a FAN, three lights and TWO windows! It also has TWO 6 volts 235 AH golf cart batteries!
I will add a 25 watt HF solar panel to charge them back up. There is a platform for a 6 X 6 bed or then flip it back up for ATV of motorbike! But this hot summer in NV (98* EVERY DAY) it is just going to be a storage.
I can't wait to try it out! I Hope she has fun too!
Looks like you guys are doing a fantastic job, thanks for sharing. 👊👍😎
Thanks 👍
Keep posting! The pace of the video and the knowledge shared is great. Thanks!
Nice family project.
Very nice family job . Hard working family .
We're blessed, Dena.
Another great video sir. Great family project.
HEY! That trailer is exactly the same as the one I just bought. Same brand, color and size. It's really great to see what the skeleton looks like before I start tearing in mine. Nice family you have there. And a great informative video!
Thanks Slow Lane!
always enjoy your presentations and good sound advice.
Thanks for watching Chris!
I’m picking up a new 7x14x7 this week. Going prep it for a trip to Western Montana in August / September. I currently live in Western North Carolina but graduated from the University of Montana. Looking forward to visiting old friend and going back to Glacier!
You're going to have a nice trip!
Beautiful family! You guys work well together!
Yes we do! Thanks for watching Curt.
Great video. How exciting your daughter building out her own trailer. It will be fun to watch the whole evolution of her build. You are planning to document the whole process? Hope so. Keep up the great work. In the meantime, have fun, stay safe and stay healthy!
Thanks Beach Bum, I have a couple more videos on the way.
Daughter building?? Well helping out as it shud be. 😘
cargo blankets work great at creepers for getting under things but also working along side cars.. they can store in 2 and 3 gallon zip lock bags..
Great idea and they would probably lay flatter than the blue tarps I usually use for those projects. Thanks for the suggestion Wayne.
@@gonagain out in the dirt. Put a blue tarp down then moving blankets. The moving blanket won't get as dirty. But it will wad up under you much easier unfortunately.
Hi! I suggest adding a layer of the quarter inch Foamular fan-fold insulation that's designed for re-siding jobs to eliminate the direct heat conduit through the trailer's skin and frame. It will help with noise as well.
Very nice work.
Excellent.
Yes foil goes in to retain heat. But we use a.c. in our in the desert and shade screen outside as well.
Thanks for sharing.
It's a lot of fun we have enjoyed building ours.
Thank you for teaching me how to do my upcoming project.
I'm glad it helped!
Thank you - we just ordered one from EZ Hauler.
I'm impressed with the build quality of that brand. Can't wait to pick mine up.
Hi Rick, thanks for showing this video. I’ve priced 6x10 cargo trailers here in Jersey. If you mention an aluminum trailer they say they don’t carry them. It seems if look west and south of me the dealers have them. I’m seeing prices from $1900 to $3200 for a new trailer.
Thanks for showing how to put the insulation in. I knew it was a lot of work.
Hi Thomas. I've seen some pictures of really poorly built cargo trailers and a favorite forum topic is on how to find a quality built one. A little research before you lay your money down is a good idea along with a close inspection before you accept delivery. The insulation is easy because it light and clean to work with. Two people can do this size trailer in one day easily.
Hi Thomas, l live in the northwestern part of Chester County, PA near Honey Brook. There's a cargo trailer builder named Burkholders on 322...see burkholdertrailers.com/
They make all aluminium cargo trailers. It's an easy ride from NJ and nice too as you are near the PA Douch country where Chester n Lancaster counties meet.
Herb Lapp Thank you. Checking it out.
Enjoyed this one a whole lot! Blessings
We'll be doing more on my daughter's trailer in the spring.
My adventure is about to begin, just brought home a new 7x14!
Nice size for a build.
@@gonagain found an RV wrecker, three small screen sliders installed, one large in rear door, saves a ton compared to the dealership. Hint look at slide out campers, the windows on those are sheltered and in new shape!
@@67superduty That's a good tip!
Great videos. I have been looking at a 6x10 cargo for multipurpose. You have have some great ideas for upgrades and build out suggestions.
Those ceiling panels are vinyl coated. If you need to cut or drill, it won't easily splinter and they're easy to clean. The plastic channels are likely attached via VHB. Mine, in a high-end trailer are the same. Nice inclusion by the manufacturer.
I was pleased when my daughter brought this trailer home and I saw those panels already installed. That saves a lot of work! Thanks for watching, Keeb!
@@gonagain Love all your vids! A lot of thought to airtight my trailer after your "trailer dust" vid. Very informative!
Can’t wait to see how the windows got in and where they came from.
That video is coming up soon!
Interesting information, very informative. Thanks for sharing this video.
Thank you Mark!
Thanks for the reply..
That's cool. Guess when we shop for a trailer, purchase the one with extra ceiling height Thanks.... See ya around!! 😁
The hinge bolts should be *carriage* bolts not bolts with hex heads on them. If the insulation fills the gap completely then it does not matter as much which side the foil is on but mine was a little thinner than the space I was filling so you put the foil facing the gap (inside) so it REFLECTS heat back in. If it's touching the outside metal wall it CONDUCTS which is what you try to avoid. But as a rule it goes against the wood which is a lower mass than the aluminum skin so it wont conduct as much. So you did it right . . . :o)
You always do great videos . . . always plenty of food for thought.
Good info, Hiker John, thank you.
Your probably past this part of work. After I taped I ran 3" wide strips of reflexics along frame rails to keep cold from passing through frame directly to paneling. just snug screws firmly ,it will leave plenty of air space between paneling and frame. Nice to have a work party.
I hadn't thought of that and it would lessen condensation forming on the paneling too. That would be especially good to do in a humid climate.
Yes! It must be nice to have so much help. I’m on the bottom insulation part of mine now too! But, I’m doing everything solo. With not much construction experience. And a time deadline to boot! Please pray fo rme… Thx
I hate deadlines and I hope you get it done in time. Wish you had someone there to help.
Good job.
Very informative video, thank you!
Great Channel! Great Montanans too!
Thanks a lot!
I learned a lot. Thank you!
Thank you for watching, Midway.
Great channel, just found you! This is such a useful set of videos for anyone ready to get a trailer but want to save money (and possibly time of ordering one to spec). Just subbed, looking forward to seeing the final result!
Welcome aboard!
I actually put a coat of primer for galvanized metal (with fungicide mixed in) on the inside of the skin. Then I put 2 coats of thermal barrier (homemade lizardskin) on the skin & 1 layer on the back of the XPS.
Could you make a video on how you mounted your spare tire on the ramp door? Thanks
I did one just for you. Well, actually i did it awhile ago. ruclips.net/video/R2vrbXpUUC4/видео.html
The aluminum frame is a huge plus. That is a well built trailer. Now, what kind of suspension does it have? The only other video of yours that I have watched was the one where you broke a leaf spring. A good suspension would be a Dexter Torflex or a Timbren system that uses the polyurethane compression blocks and trailing arms. As you well know, leaf springs don't hold up, cannot count the videos I've seen of them breaking on people and the trailer doesn't get a good ride which means it doesn't tow as well and is harder on the fasteners holding it together and your belongings inside.
I was going to go with a torsion arm axle as an upgrade, but the suspension shop talked me out of it. I was told they too break down just about as often and then they're more expensive to fix and get parts for. I'm holding off for now.
@@gonagain The Timbren axle-less suspension is a good idea. It bolts to the frame and you install a square tube crossmember to keep them in align. I would want thru spacers welded in the frame so as to keep from crushing the frame when you bolt it up, but its great design.
timbren.com/c-1389196-products-axle-less-trailer-suspension.html
A second possibility is Sumo Springs for trailers, as they will carry some of the load and keep the leaf spring from being so heavily loaded. They also help dampen the spring action. These work with leaf springs, over or under the axle, different kits, for over/under and different weights. www.supersprings.com/trailer-sumosprings
I've looked at the Timbren and had thought about going with that, but i think something like the Sumo Springs you've pointed out better fit my needs. I'm sticking with the leaf springs because replacements are available most anywhere. Thanks!
I think the shiny side is the vapor barrier. Vapor barrier goes toward the heat generally.
You're right! But here in Montana, we want to keep the heat in.
it looks as if that OSB garbage will be staying on the floor. A coat of good floor/porch enamel paint would really add life and some water proofing to the top AND bottom of the floor panel. that'll be nice.
Hi Dufus, there's different grades of OSB and some are highly moisture resistant and can even be used below ground level. I know that our own trailer is about 6 years old and the OSB is fine but maybe other manufacturers don't use the better quality product.
Good stuff.
Fun to watch the whole family work. My dog doesn't have thumbs so it's a little hard for me to get help.
Questions:
Why didn't you put in the vent and windows before insulation?
Why not use two pieces of thinner insulation and have the shiny side on both sides?
Hi Jim. I find it easier to cut through all the layers at once when putting the windows in because the trailer skin has some rigidity when backed by the foam and the inside paneling and doesn't vibrate as much that way. Interesting idea on using two foil backed layers. Indeed, why not?
hahaha! Good for you Linda, put that height to your advantage! hahaha Oh, and good to see you finally put "Stretch" to work too! ;-) (are you sure you don't want at least one 120 vac convenience plug hiding somewhere???)
I think I would have installed at least 2 or 3 for future
We've never had a need for 120 out here where we camp, but I can see where it would be important in other places or for other styles of traveling for sure. I did run a power cord through the window to help dry some paint once. Don't encourage Linda, a guy needs some rest once in awhile! Too late, she read this. Lol!
@@gonagain ~lol
Great video, but I did not see if you added any glue between the outer wall and back of insulation? Thanks!
I didn't and I don't think that it's at all necessary. Those panels aren't going to move at all.
_You're correct! Those are supposed to have to aluminum towards the inside, no matter what. Outside of a house is still aluminum side towards inside too, or anything else._
@@AdamA-pm3yn okay since you don't seem to have any construction knowledge or background. I'm going to make it super simple for you. The aluminum side/ foiled is to decrease the heat or cool to the outside, while the white side/ polyiso goes to the exterior facing of the inner wall. There is air movement between the foil and wall; why? It not smooth. How do you think, and why would you use aluminum tape to seal up the polyiso panels/ foam broads? You don't use it on the white side. I guess you can if you're super small and slide down the inner wall. Hopes this helps you out.
You really don't need foil covered insulation in an aluminum trailer because the shell of the trailer is your radiant barrier. The heat inside will be convection heat so the highest R value is what you are after.
That's a good point Eric. Thank you.
Great video, thanks for all the information. Subscribed.
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Really good thorough video on getting started on a cargo conversion.👍👍
I did foil out cause I live in a desert but not sure if it made any difference.
Huge debate on that subject.😯
The inside of the trailer or van is so relatively small that having the foil on the outside isn't going to make much difference when it comes to heating the interior, but the reflective surface facing OUT should make a big difference in reflecting infrared rays to keep the heat down. This has been proven in home attics with a simple Mylar layer, like a space blanket, helping to keep things cool. I think you did the right thing.
howdy from the sunny ozarks rick!! excellent team work! why not use two thinner foam sheets with the shinny side out? i always learn from watching others whether its right or wrong? thanks for sharing your labor of love and looking forward to your follow up trailer built! who cooks for this awesome crew of yours? tight lines and cheers!
Phillip, they are all good cooks and that's why I have a hard time keeping the weight off. The only against using back to back panels is it's double the work and I'm lazy. Otherwise it's a great idea!
@@gonagain thanks for your quick reply!!
From Manufacturer.
Question: When using reflective foil, which side should face the inside and outside?
Answer: It depends on which way you want the heat to go. Put it on the side where you want the heat to radiate away from. If you want to keep a room warm, put it on the inside. If you want to cool a room, then put it on the outside.
Winter or summer camping, Alaska or Arizona ?
If you happen to be around Great Falls I would like to see your heating souce.
Good videos
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Nice family. :)
Thanks for the awesome tips. I want to get a 6 x 10 as a support vehicle for a multi-family campsite. Mostly to haul stuff, but with a few pieces of equipment installed that must not overheat. So I was thinking of a mini air conditioner, and with that insulation becomes a must.
A few thoughts on rigid insulation board. Three types are easily available: expanded polystyrene (bead board, what you used), extruded polystyrene, and polyisocyanurate (polyiso). The two polystyrene board types don't out gas and both have an R-value of R-5 per inch thickness. *The expanded stuff* is the lightest, typically comes faced with film or foil, can get knocked around and shed beads, is available with a fire-retardant treatment, and comes in white. *The extruded stuff* typically has the natural skinned surface from how it is made (no foils or films), you can get it in different densities (without affecting R-value much), it can be quite tough, it's almost impossible to find fire-retardant treated product in the USA, and comes in pink, blue, or green depending on the brand. *Polyiso* uses a different gas as an expanding agent, which gives you R-6.5 to R-7.0 per inch thickness, but it can also out gas if the factory didn't have their formulation dialed in quite right (so tape sealing is imperative). It comes with foil both sides or fiberglass reinforced paper both sides, is naturally fire retardant without any treatment, and is a cream color.
For under the trailer I'd go with extruded polystyrene. Because of the toughness it'd suffer less damage from kicked up gravel. On the inside avoid the polyiso for a camper (people sleeping inside). For a camper either expanded or extruded polystyrene is hard to beat. However for my use as an air conditioned equipment trailer (not a camper) the superior R-value of the polyiso makes that a strong choice for the walls and ceiling.
Your use of the foil tape is brilliant. Bravo.
Good information there for people trying to make a decision. Thanks Scott.
May 23rd 2021
I watched your hula hoop shower video. Linda is right about the bucket.
If the trailer wall will support the weight. Can you add a shelf that would hold the bucket , and fold down when not needed? What about the addition of a fitting or adaptation. Of tubing and a regular sink sprayer instead of the cup? If on the shelf, gravity fed?
Would that work on a collapsible bucket?
Any way. Love your adventures.
Oh and what about this surprise spring SNOW! LOL..
See you around! 😁
Hello Gail, the only thing that would make your idea not work is the height of the ceiling in the trailer that would stop gravity feed from being possible. We had a visitor from India last week and when he saw the shower we told him it was Japanese furo style and he said "No, that's an Indian shower".
OMG I just bought the exact same trailer