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I imagine Nagash's mechanics will work similar to Tamurkhan's - in that you get a small selection of units you can recruit from certain races, but you also get diplomatic bonuses' that enable you to recruit the rest of the units.
The only thing i'd change is the "small amount" of units. Nagash should be drowning people with the undead, so I assume he could get easy access to lots of low tier units. But your guess is as good as mine really.
Hmmm, maybe make it like Champions where vassalizing is viable but only with undead factions. And bonuses geared towards the outpost recruitment and raise dead.
Honestly if Thanquil was in the game then you should get missions to undermine the other skaven factions and give him a bonus for confederation with them.
@@Nightstalker1141 honestly it doesn't even have to be the main aspect of his campaign maybe it's just something like: Spread a plage to clan Pestilence, Use the "steal technology" action of clan Skryer, things like that.
Nagash should be his own DLC. He should have access to all undead rosters + any Nagashizzar stuff. His allegiance? His own. He'd be not Tomb Kings. Not Vampire Counts. Not Vampire Coast. Just himself.
Not a faction but they absolutely need to add more Akshina units, then add a melee fighter hero and rework the Patriachs so they're much more focused and effective at bubble buffing units. Then they can reboot the Orthodoxy vs. Ice Court race mechanics so that you have actual tough choices to make between empowering Court or Orthodoxy units and give Kostaltyn his own Church equivalent to the Ice Court witch training mechanic.
Speciation is fine but you’re making claims. At the moment they have said there’s plenty of content still to come so why they would make an end times dlc. It’s more likely tjem to do Norcsa or Vampire Counts like the Demon faction
For a skaven dlc. I can see the verminlords being a lord and unit option just like the greater demons that are already in the game. I'm surprised that you think they would only be a unit, especially one that you would have to do a rite for. Ca definitely wouldn't lock it behind a rite, that just doesn't make any sense because you would have to remove one of the 4 that's already there and only people who would own the dlc would be able to use it so I imagine that it would just be a tier 4 or 5 monster and the lord version would be un upgrade for your skaven lords once they hit level 25.
This seems a very limited view of what this End Times pack will entail. Whenever Legend's spoken about this, he's always stressed how huge (so go the rumours) it'll likely be, and if it's literally rounding off the entire series - at least in terms of major DLC - then yeah I'd expect them to want to go out with big sales. If they're just going to do a standard DLC format but with 'big' name characters, that seems like it would be a huge missed opportunity. But maybe they will do that in a bid to cut costs and max out profits. But if so then I really doubt the inclusion of Nurgle. Nagash, Thanquol, Boris, surely - probably with a massively buffed Chaos invasion mechanic. I think whenever they do Nagash it will also involve more content for the Vampire Counts/Coast and Tomb Kings.
The three things I desperately want is a DLC/rework for vampire counts, Ind, and khuresh and I won’t give up till the developers outright say it’s not happening
I would love another Nurgle DLC or more units at least so that the the cyclical recruitment system feel a bit more evenly spread. Get nurglings out of Plagueflesh poppies building, make them tier 0 and replace them with something else!
What if you could turn your inspiring champion units into npc legendary heros? There is a lot of focus around named characters, but less of a focus on the RPG element everyone loves on the tabletop - where you can create your own characters. I imagine the inspiring champion units will take twice as long to level up compared to a chosen unit, but once you hit unit cap you would be presented with the option (like with elevating a lord into a daemon prince) to turn them into a legendary hero. The idea being the unit would have one final battle amongst themselves to decide who is worthy of their patron god's support, then one survivor would emerge to claim the title of legendary hero?
It sounds like a great idea. I like the sound of Nagash/undead being the main big baddy. So long as CA make it with the options still to work around the end times and game ending mechanics so you can customise your campaign a little. I remember in wh2 when the chaos end times would almost break your game a bit sometimes with how awkward it was to deal with.
CA is already using End Times content, at least Skarr confirmed so we'll probably see all the units and characters. As long as it's that and not the lousy narrative there won't be any problems. It also doesn't mean that all the content will appear together or in an "End Times" DLC, which may be the case, seeing once again Skarr that is going to come out in another DLC (with possibly other End Times units of Khorne). The problem is the disparity of content: only Khorne, Nurgle and Skaven receive a lot of content in End Times, Undead a couple more units. The rest only receive characters (or updates of pre-existing characters) or not even that. Verminlords, there are 4 or 5 basic variants that can be units. There is an exalted version that can serve as a Lord, just like the exalted great daemons serve as lords. I see it feasible, the Verminking can be LL, the Skaven could have a DLC almost entirely of verminlords, and of course Thanquol. Nagash may function as Daemons of Chaos. Partial access to all undead faction rosters, with a couple of unique units and potential access to all three full rosters in campaign. There's nothing wrong with using End Times characters or units, the problem was always the poor narrative, which they already said they weren't going to use. Regarding units, the problem is that the content is quite uneven. Egrimm is a long-awaited addition either as part of a DLC or as a standalone FLC. Although I don't know what Tzeench units are left unused at this point. The same with Slaanesh. Maybe with a new Champions of Chaos or something similar it could be done, I really don't know. One of the problems with the game is the disparity of content between factions in the miniature game. Some factions are complete or nearly complete, and others have room for one or even two DLCs.
Regarding what Nagash could be doing and also regarding the invasion of chaos, which CA is also working on. In the game I have read a description of the Alexandronov castle that said something like “the hordes of chaos cannot pass by and are provoked to attack it” - what if such a new mechanic was made. Using Chaos as an example, they can do whatever they want in the wastelands of chaos, but in order to enter the mortal lands they need to capture a specific city. Moreover, it will not be just a siege, but something like a quest battle. Various factions will gather for defense - the dwarves, Empire, Kislev. You see in advance how many opponents there will be and you can prepare. For example, for allegiance points you can buy help specifically for this battle. Quite a complex mechanic, but around it you can build interesting gameplay. Also need to figure out how to diversify it. Besieging the same city every time for chaos is not interesting. Maybe Throt has already captured all the cities in Kislev, then what? Or Vlad. This is a special mechanic for Chaos, it should not apply to vampires and skaven, they are already in the mortal lands. I think so - 3 special battles for Chaos when attacking the Empire/Kislev. The last one is Altdorf. The first when entering the Kislev region, the second somewhere in the Empire. There will be separate city pools for the first and second. Of these, the city will be chosen randomly or there will be a special selection mechanic. If all cities from the pool are captured by evil factions, there is no special siege. Chaos cannot pass beyond a certain line without capturing the key city. Either it physically cannot move or loses half the army per turn due to “logistics problems.” By the way, the world is already divided into regions, this is in the Changeling mechanics. For Nagash - I think he needs to capture his places of power so he can move on. Otherwise, he is too weak to invade new regions. There are videos on RUclips with large battles/sieges corresponding to the lore, and the game has quest battles. I'd like this new mechanic to take the best of both worlds. A quest battle at a specific geographic point where you physical need to come. The terms of this battle may change. It's epic and involves characters from the lore and decides the fate of the world. If, for example, Franz dies in such a battle, then on the campaign map he also dies and is replaced in the army by another lord. There are big quest battles that end the campaign, but essentially you have already won by that time and as a result of these battles nothing changes in the world. I would like several such battles, which may be different during new playthroughs, as a result of which changes occur in the world. Also need mechanics for the defenders. Where you can help in defense and get loot upon successful defense. Or you get a full-scale invasion of chaos if the defense fails. If you are a defender, then AI periodically selects the Chaos race and city. The army of Chaos arrives, chaos reinforcements are selected for the battle so that there is a real threat of a breakthrough. Then the turns are counted down and the battle takes place (for example after 5 turns). You can either come with your army and help (immediately start the battle) or use some other mechanic to strengthen the defenders. If you are chaos, then you come and start the battle immediately. When chaos wins, for example, independent armies of chaos begin to appear (in case the main factions are still occupied in the wastelands of chaos). In general, this mechanic is reminiscent of the Bastion of Cathay. There are questions about Festus... about N'Kari... about the chaos invasion on Ulthuan. But these questions will arise in any case if you make the chaos invasion mechanics. For Thanquol, I would like a mechanic - laboratory for stormvermin modification. You can even make scryer modifications available only with a warlock dlc and, accordingly, a moulder. And special modifications if you own Hellpit and ScavenBlight. Or even tie the stormvermin creation itself to this laboratory. You have a certain resource that you spend to create a stormvermin with certain parameters and you cannot get them any other way. There won't be a building that allows you to simply hire them.
I believe Nagash Forces of Undeath will be singular DLC. It will have content for all 3 vampire factions, and will probably include reworks for those factions while DLC itself will be focused on bonding those factions through nagash and his mechanics. I also tend to believe that Nagash's dlc will include end crisis rework that will build upon current system, they will probably test various systems for that mechanic in coming freelcs and chaos invasion. Coming from all that i would expect that this DLC will have price increase probably treated as Faction DLC.
It sounds interesting and entertaining, especially the case of Nagash. However...despite the fact that for him if he has no one but Morgasts then maybe it makes sense. That said, Nagash is always seen as the leader of his race, and CA would hardly add new races to the LP. What would be most ideal for Nagash is to create a new army roster to have something from Nagash and justify it as a new DLC race. Because you have to admit, even though Nagash is the father of all undead, but in terms of DLC and also a new race, it won't be enough if there are Morgasts and Dread Abyssals besides him. It would actually be too little for a DLC race, since 95% of undead units are in the game and therefore Nagash needs to do something more to both surpass the mod and still be a middle ground between balance and power.
Rat Swarms would be so good though, similar to Nurgling Swarms would be a really fun addition. Slim chance, I agree. But I really wanna have my dumb little sea of beady red eyes. Same reason I want scarab swarms for Tomb Kings.
Blight kings could still just have their varied weapon look, and then just slap whatever weapon role you want on them(would make them more true to the models/unique looking). Another interesting option would be giving the unit a multi weapon role unit(might be broken though). Imagine a single unit that is great weapon, spear/anti large, sword and board, and dual wield(all advantages given at once). Would be very unique
I like what you were saying a lot with Nurhle, but if Natasha gets introduced, his faction would get water down if it would also be with two other factions. I think that a Nagash DLC should completely overhaul the undead factions. Where vampires would get overhauled and vampire coast along with them and maybe even work to Tomb kings as well.
Verminlords should be the generic lords for the DLC. Each of the verminlord variants should be added(similar to just choosing a different magic type slaan). The old school verminlords should be the generic monster version( just like the monogod factions have and exalted/regular version). You could also make them the generic hero option, or make the variants the LH’s for the DLC. Units could be stormfiends(variants), old school verminlords/exalted verminlords, burrowing behemoth, cauldron of thousand poxes, chimaerat, rat swarms/throtlings, flayerkin(maybe since end times/chaos focus), giant rats, or make new units. I personally think it would be cool to have 1 new unit for each of the main clans, as that would be a good ending for the skaven(also having verminlords/stormfiends).
I’m hoping for something like HoI 4 focus trees. Like imagine if you can play a Gelt campaign where he falls under nagash’s control. It’ll also make a araessa saltspite campaign really interesting, she can get employed by the empire to help, fall under nagash, or even fall back to chaos. Really spice up campaigns over all that way.
What if Nagash is a legendary lord that other tomb kings can summon as a major campaign quest. Like gathering all the books of Nagash and or getting the black pyramid and building a special building.
Lots of great ideas. Only thing I disagree with is that Egrimm should be an eventual FLC lord, otherwise having to pay for a third Tzeentch lord when Nurgle and Khorne’s was/will be free seems a unfair kickback from how poorly SoC was originally delivered!
I could see magoth riders being a unit instead of heroes/lords, or I can see them being an ROR version of a regular magoth(similar to the mammoth heard for norsca). Turning a single entity unit into a 3 entity ROR unit. I could also see them being the generic lord/fat boy riding a magoth being the generic lord(not sure what they would call it).
The mention of more legendary heros in DLCs has made me think, what if Golgfag could get the other maneater models (ninja, pirate, est) as unique heros. I think its very unlikely but a ogre lover can dream.
If they did this I'd like to see some of 3K diplomacy added so you could form the conclave of light, and whatever the chaos and undead versions would be called
Regarding Skreetch Verminking, I thought he would be more of a Legendary Hero for the Skaven Race as a whole rather than a Legendary Lord like Be'Lakor in the Realm of Chaos Campaign.
Tbh I haven't overly enjoyed TWW3, I tried and nothing felt like it really hit the mark or was as fun as I expected (plus constant grueling settlement fights drained me further) I've maintained that a Nagash dlc would be the only thing to convince me to try it again, so if it comes I'll be tentatively eager to see how it plays.
I think having Rat riders (old deepcut/unique/funny) as a new would be awesome, but they could remake them by having stormvermin riding the gnaw beast from AOS(would be a really cool “elite cav unit). Imagine giving skaven an elite/semi armored cav unit(cool af).
I've always wanted a slight overhaul to Ikit's workshop. I've been saying for years that Skaven weapons are not exactly known for being stable and some skaven learn to stay clear of them to avoid being caught in an explosion, but people are always "No we don't want something that could damage units!" and then CA make Throt's lab where creatures can get cellular instability which damages the units and people are "Yeah, this is great!" Why can't weapon team upgrades have a slight chance of something going wrong? Even just a tiny chance of a warpfire thrower exploding and damaging the unit? And why can't we get clanrats pushing screaming bells/plague furnaces around similar to battering rams?! It looks weird have them rolling around on their own. Also, I'd love to have verminlords as a summonable unit only available to Grey Seers. The Seer targets a unit and that unit takes damage as the verminlord eats some of them as it appears. (Similar to warpbomb). A rat can dream, yes-yes.
What if the Glotkin are literally 3 characters in 1. So each have their own skill points and skill tree. So when the Glotkin level up. Each get a skill point. And they have a unik skill tree window, that allows you to turn the page, looking at each of their skill tree separately.
Man I cannot fkn wait for Nagash. It'll be interesting to see how they tie Arkhan into his campaign, if at all. I also really hope they give us much more utility and config options for the end game scenario mechanic. I also wonder if they might drop Vorag into the game when they finally get around to rejigging the Vampire counts.
I would completely love and be okay with a $60 expansion if it’s an end times case scenario where each faction is getting a final cherry on top maybe a few changes and we get an end times scenario with Nagash being a $20 piece of the dlc if they broke it up into chunks
Honestly I'd much prefer the Glotkin as a legendary hero. Nurgle is currently the only Chaos faction with a dlc to essentially not have one since Kazyk is locked with Tamurkhan. And I'm just kind of a sucker for the idea of all the monogod factions ending with 3 LL's one greater daemon, one lesser daemon, one mortal. Any other Nurgle characters I'd like to see like Gutrot Spume or Valnir the Reaper I'd like to be Warriors of Chaos lords or as heroes.
“Warhammer fantasy and the end times are completely separate IPs with zero connective tissue or relation to one another.” -Games Workshop (for some reason)
Honestly the only thing ive actually wanted is an officially made chaos endgame crisis. It genuinly confuses me as to why undivided, mortals and demons dont have that in the end game settings. The only reason i could ever see is that they are planning a end-times dlc.
TBH i dont wanna Glotkinn, we got too much nurgle atm... Well made Nagash and Thranquol are all i wish for now:). 3th LL for order would be much better. Maybe Khaine as LL able to lead or get as any elven race?
they should make some end time characters like big bosses in the campain. Nigash, Thanquel, Valtan, Glotkin. they could each change the dynamic of a campaign petulantly changing aligences something like that. i think Nigash should be a legendary hero but they should rework Arcon the blacks campaign so he needs to go around collecting the artifacts of Nigash
Honestly if it’s end times I would be fine with even a 60€ dlc that adds one legendary lord with 1 end time unit to every fraction that’s in the game. I would pay that but I would want every fraction to get an end time oportiunity.
I could see EVH/tzeentch being saved for a Norsca vs Cathay vs Tzeentch DLC(lizardmen, Vcoast, Vcounts, TK, or brettonia could sneak in as well). I doubt we would get him for an end times DLC. I personally think a EVH/tzeentch vs Norsca vs Cathay would be the best. Then a Lizardmen vs Cathay vs Brettonia, and a Vcoast vs Vcounts vs TK(reworks) would be the best for the next DLC’s(although Vcounts could also get a COC type DLC).
The only thing that worries me about that is the size of the DLC. The bigger it is (and CA thinks bigger is better now), the longer it takes. It could be a whole momentum-killing year, and then they'll be throwing up their hands wondering why it didn't make the money they were hoping it would. Just saying ...
Why oh why doesn't Vlad get a mount? He is the Mortarch of Shadow after all and militarily probably the most active and successful compared to the other three. Do look forward to pit Vlad against the Glotkin (and not have Vlad drink their blood afterward, such BS). I hate the End Times. Preferred the Storm of Chaos being made into a DLC (, except for the stupidity of Grimgor knocking Archaon out with a head butt and then leaving him alive). This would enable, as was shown in the World Wide campaign that was the Storm of Chaos, that Order can win the war and drive back Chaos again. End Times is, if it had been played out on the table top, could only occur if all the Chaos players rolled dice that only had sixes on them. Total BS.
I hope that thanqual mechanics will also update Ikit and Throt since that can buff these units of stormfiend units with their respective laboratory mechanics. Because stormfiend is amalgation of clan scyrer technology and Clan molder flesh work of ratogres
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I wouldnt mind buying a Saga Like DLC (with price) just for Nagash or other large factions like Ind or Kouresh. When WH3 came out, i thoguht that was going to be the strat, but obviously i was mistaken. I'd do just about anything to play legit Nagash content. It'd have to include a large roster, probably mini campaign, have high polish and some IE map improvements or general undead improvements.
I want my main man N-word-gash in TW WH3 to be based on the pre-millennium metal model and coloured like the 90s 'eavy Metal Purple robe Paint Job (its box art) with Necro Pimp Cane.
Never once said give Tyrion (Avatar of Khaine) or The Witch King (Phoenix King) the ability to subjugate all elf factions....like Archaon can with Chaos.
My tinfoil hat theory is that we won’t see many DLCs after the upcoming one because the release schedule has changed, and 40k will come earlier than initially planned. We'll see the first 40k teaser this winter, with the game launching in early 2026. Warhammer 3 will get a massive End Times DLC at the end of 2025, which won’t be a 'normal' DLC, but will wrap up basically everything that’s still missing. I think we'll get Dogs of War and Monkey King first, and then the End Times DLC, which I believe will be gargantuan in both content and price, delivering everything we've asked for over the years: Cult of Ulric, Neferata, Thanquol, Nagash, and god knows what else they can include. Or im wrong and they just make dlc for the game even after 40k launched, who knows but either way im really excited for whats to come.
Dunno how the can impliment Valten since Franz has the hammer and Franz is too popular to kill off. Maybe give him a model with his rune fang if Valten is picked? Id love to see a mechanic for Valten slowly working his way up into being the destined hero like how he had 3 diffrent minitures showing his growth.
Personally I think there is much more interesting units in the various 6th edition army books and Storm of Chaos. Why would Thanquol need to recreate the Fellblade when its still in the world. Vampire Counts have plenty of stuff and Bloodlines would, again IMO be more interested in just Nagash - the mod is stupidly overpowerful - I would hate that to be the campaign - its nearly as bad as the Changeling. Again personally I want to destroy Nagash as Neferata
I think you're right about their being more interesting avenues to pursue. Expending more on loosely established groups within the world - likethe Amazonians or Araby -, or spotlighting absent, well defined, elements - like, Nerferata, as you mentioned - would be a much more beneficial and long-lasting well to draw from. Fundamentally, the problem with drawing from the End Times (aside from its obvious horrendous writing) is that many, if not most, of the models introduce during that time were designed with AoS, not Fantasy, in mind. Why is Nagash literally as big as a giant? Because he's a centerpiece god model in AoS. Why is Nerferata riding a massive interchangeable, non-discript construct with no Nehekharan motif present in her or the constructs design? Because Tomb Kings don't exist in AoS.
Not a fan of nagash being able to recruit all 3 undead factions. Seems like kind of a cop out. I would rather have him either have a tomb king roster, or be able to pick from one of the three. Or mayyyyyybe pick bits from each roster. I would honestly be happy if he was just tomb kings with a few new units and some cool spells of his own, or at least cool buffs he can give undead/cool skill tree/tech tree.
I want immortal empires to have the realm of chaos from 2 and chaos invasion from 1. Bonus points if you can find Kaldor Draigo in the realms of chaos.
CA PLEASE make estalia and tilea playable. 1 idea: 1 DLC with one estalian lord, one tilean lord, and 1 dogs of wars lord, there are at least two legendary lords for each one that comes to my mind in one moment. I dont know the exactly number of spaniards and italians that play the game but every single one of them would buy that DLC even if its the worst one you have ever made. PLEASE they have been there since TWW1
I @@christiandauz3742 i know i meant It more like one would play as tilea other as estalia and other as mercenaries probably something of the realm of nakai without actually having sentlements
With the End Times DLC, Warriors of Chaos players will never need to play a battle again because Auto-Resolve will always give them victories with negligible losses.
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Now that we know that UNIQUE End Times stuff is properly confirmed I've not been able to take this idea out of my head. So let's talk speculation for the first time in a LONG TIME.
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I imagine Nagash's mechanics will work similar to Tamurkhan's - in that you get a small selection of units you can recruit from certain races, but you also get diplomatic bonuses' that enable you to recruit the rest of the units.
Similar to the Nagash mod.
I'd much rather expect him to work like Daniel, and also being able of forcefully confederating his Mortarchs.
The only thing i'd change is the "small amount" of units.
Nagash should be drowning people with the undead, so I assume he could get easy access to lots of low tier units.
But your guess is as good as mine really.
I'd much rather he was a stand alone faction that could dominate other undead factions
Hmmm, maybe make it like Champions where vassalizing is viable but only with undead factions. And bonuses geared towards the outpost recruitment and raise dead.
Honestly if Thanquil was in the game then you should get missions to undermine the other skaven factions and give him a bonus for confederation with them.
That would be hilarious but fluffy too
@@Nightstalker1141 honestly it doesn't even have to be the main aspect of his campaign maybe it's just something like: Spread a plage to clan Pestilence, Use the "steal technology" action of clan Skryer, things like that.
Nagash should be his own DLC.
He should have access to all undead rosters + any Nagashizzar stuff.
His allegiance? His own. He'd be not Tomb Kings. Not Vampire Counts. Not Vampire Coast. Just himself.
Give him the ability to confederate the TK, VC and Vampirates though.
would be funny if he got a quest battle to go and kill Azhag (even though he's canonically been dead for quite some time) to get his crown back
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I want a fleshed out orthodoxy faction for kostaltyn with added units and mechanics.
Not a faction but they absolutely need to add more Akshina units, then add a melee fighter hero and rework the Patriachs so they're much more focused and effective at bubble buffing units.
Then they can reboot the Orthodoxy vs. Ice Court race mechanics so that you have actual tough choices to make between empowering Court or Orthodoxy units and give Kostaltyn his own Church equivalent to the Ice Court witch training mechanic.
Yep! Would be so nice with some fleshed out Kislev factions. Kostaltyn is just a lesser katarina. Give them some unique options!!
@@Helmutlozzi IIRC they put a hold on anything Kislev-related for the time being due to the Ukraine War.
They created him themselves, but GW should definitely add him to the lore and get story writers on it so that can be done.
@@Henskelion Literally a lie as Shadows of Change came out last year
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I can just see the Tarriff video
Speciation is fine but you’re making claims. At the moment they have said there’s plenty of content still to come so why they would make an end times dlc. It’s more likely tjem to do Norcsa or Vampire Counts like the Demon faction
For a skaven dlc. I can see the verminlords being a lord and unit option just like the greater demons that are already in the game. I'm surprised that you think they would only be a unit, especially one that you would have to do a rite for. Ca definitely wouldn't lock it behind a rite, that just doesn't make any sense because you would have to remove one of the 4 that's already there and only people who would own the dlc would be able to use it so I imagine that it would just be a tier 4 or 5 monster and the lord version would be un upgrade for your skaven lords once they hit level 25.
Could we get the Ubersreik Five as heroes?
We sorta have that… in Ubersreik special building The Red Moon Inn, they come as garisson. Not the real five, but as a reference
This seems a very limited view of what this End Times pack will entail. Whenever Legend's spoken about this, he's always stressed how huge (so go the rumours) it'll likely be, and if it's literally rounding off the entire series - at least in terms of major DLC - then yeah I'd expect them to want to go out with big sales.
If they're just going to do a standard DLC format but with 'big' name characters, that seems like it would be a huge missed opportunity. But maybe they will do that in a bid to cut costs and max out profits. But if so then I really doubt the inclusion of Nurgle. Nagash, Thanquol, Boris, surely - probably with a massively buffed Chaos invasion mechanic.
I think whenever they do Nagash it will also involve more content for the Vampire Counts/Coast and Tomb Kings.
The three things I desperately want is a DLC/rework for vampire counts, Ind, and khuresh and I won’t give up till the developers outright say it’s not happening
The changeling is so close to being the coolest campaign of all time, the only thing stopping it really is making it more fun.
I would love another Nurgle DLC or more units at least so that the the cyclical recruitment system feel a bit more evenly spread. Get nurglings out of Plagueflesh poppies building, make them tier 0 and replace them with something else!
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What if you could turn your inspiring champion units into npc legendary heros? There is a lot of focus around named characters, but less of a focus on the RPG element everyone loves on the tabletop - where you can create your own characters.
I imagine the inspiring champion units will take twice as long to level up compared to a chosen unit, but once you hit unit cap you would be presented with the option (like with elevating a lord into a daemon prince) to turn them into a legendary hero. The idea being the unit would have one final battle amongst themselves to decide who is worthy of their patron god's support, then one survivor would emerge to claim the title of legendary hero?
It sounds like a great idea. I like the sound of Nagash/undead being the main big baddy. So long as CA make it with the options still to work around the end times and game ending mechanics so you can customise your campaign a little. I remember in wh2 when the chaos end times would almost break your game a bit sometimes with how awkward it was to deal with.
CA is already using End Times content, at least Skarr confirmed so we'll probably see all the units and characters. As long as it's that and not the lousy narrative there won't be any problems. It also doesn't mean that all the content will appear together or in an "End Times" DLC, which may be the case, seeing once again Skarr that is going to come out in another DLC (with possibly other End Times units of Khorne).
The problem is the disparity of content: only Khorne, Nurgle and Skaven receive a lot of content in End Times, Undead a couple more units. The rest only receive characters (or updates of pre-existing characters) or not even that.
Verminlords, there are 4 or 5 basic variants that can be units. There is an exalted version that can serve as a Lord, just like the exalted great daemons serve as lords. I see it feasible, the Verminking can be LL, the Skaven could have a DLC almost entirely of verminlords, and of course Thanquol.
Nagash may function as Daemons of Chaos. Partial access to all undead faction rosters, with a couple of unique units and potential access to all three full rosters in campaign.
There's nothing wrong with using End Times characters or units, the problem was always the poor narrative, which they already said they weren't going to use.
Regarding units, the problem is that the content is quite uneven.
Egrimm is a long-awaited addition either as part of a DLC or as a standalone FLC. Although I don't know what Tzeench units are left unused at this point. The same with Slaanesh. Maybe with a new Champions of Chaos or something similar it could be done, I really don't know.
One of the problems with the game is the disparity of content between factions in the miniature game. Some factions are complete or nearly complete, and others have room for one or even two DLCs.
Daniels Feature for Boneripper is all i want, i would buy the dlc just to make different good boys
Regarding what Nagash could be doing and also regarding the invasion of chaos, which CA is also working on. In the game I have read a description of the Alexandronov castle that said something like “the hordes of chaos cannot pass by and are provoked to attack it” - what if such a new mechanic was made.
Using Chaos as an example, they can do whatever they want in the wastelands of chaos, but in order to enter the mortal lands they need to capture a specific city. Moreover, it will not be just a siege, but something like a quest battle. Various factions will gather for defense - the dwarves, Empire, Kislev. You see in advance how many opponents there will be and you can prepare. For example, for allegiance points you can buy help specifically for this battle.
Quite a complex mechanic, but around it you can build interesting gameplay. Also need to figure out how to diversify it. Besieging the same city every time for chaos is not interesting. Maybe Throt has already captured all the cities in Kislev, then what? Or Vlad. This is a special mechanic for Chaos, it should not apply to vampires and skaven, they are already in the mortal lands.
I think so - 3 special battles for Chaos when attacking the Empire/Kislev. The last one is Altdorf. The first when entering the Kislev region, the second somewhere in the Empire. There will be separate city pools for the first and second. Of these, the city will be chosen randomly or there will be a special selection mechanic. If all cities from the pool are captured by evil factions, there is no special siege. Chaos cannot pass beyond a certain line without capturing the key city. Either it physically cannot move or loses half the army per turn due to “logistics problems.”
By the way, the world is already divided into regions, this is in the Changeling mechanics.
For Nagash - I think he needs to capture his places of power so he can move on. Otherwise, he is too weak to invade new regions.
There are videos on RUclips with large battles/sieges corresponding to the lore, and the game has quest battles. I'd like this new mechanic to take the best of both worlds. A quest battle at a specific geographic point where you physical need to come. The terms of this battle may change. It's epic and involves characters from the lore and decides the fate of the world. If, for example, Franz dies in such a battle, then on the campaign map he also dies and is replaced in the army by another lord.
There are big quest battles that end the campaign, but essentially you have already won by that time and as a result of these battles nothing changes in the world. I would like several such battles, which may be different during new playthroughs, as a result of which changes occur in the world.
Also need mechanics for the defenders. Where you can help in defense and get loot upon successful defense. Or you get a full-scale invasion of chaos if the defense fails. If you are a defender, then AI periodically selects the Chaos race and city. The army of Chaos arrives, chaos reinforcements are selected for the battle so that there is a real threat of a breakthrough. Then the turns are counted down and the battle takes place (for example after 5 turns). You can either come with your army and help (immediately start the battle) or use some other mechanic to strengthen the defenders. If you are chaos, then you come and start the battle immediately. When chaos wins, for example, independent armies of chaos begin to appear (in case the main factions are still occupied in the wastelands of chaos). In general, this mechanic is reminiscent of the Bastion of Cathay. There are questions about Festus... about N'Kari... about the chaos invasion on Ulthuan. But these questions will arise in any case if you make the chaos invasion mechanics.
For Thanquol, I would like a mechanic - laboratory for stormvermin modification. You can even make scryer modifications available only with a warlock dlc and, accordingly, a moulder. And special modifications if you own Hellpit and ScavenBlight. Or even tie the stormvermin creation itself to this laboratory. You have a certain resource that you spend to create a stormvermin with certain parameters and you cannot get them any other way. There won't be a building that allows you to simply hire them.
I believe Nagash Forces of Undeath will be singular DLC. It will have content for all 3 vampire factions, and will probably include reworks for those factions while DLC itself will be focused on bonding those factions through nagash and his mechanics. I also tend to believe that Nagash's dlc will include end crisis rework that will build upon current system, they will probably test various systems for that mechanic in coming freelcs and chaos invasion. Coming from all that i would expect that this DLC will have price increase probably treated as Faction DLC.
It sounds interesting and entertaining, especially the case of Nagash. However...despite the fact that for him if he has no one but Morgasts then maybe it makes sense. That said, Nagash is always seen as the leader of his race, and CA would hardly add new races to the LP. What would be most ideal for Nagash is to create a new army roster to have something from Nagash and justify it as a new DLC race. Because you have to admit, even though Nagash is the father of all undead, but in terms of DLC and also a new race, it won't be enough if there are Morgasts and Dread Abyssals besides him. It would actually be too little for a DLC race, since 95% of undead units are in the game and therefore Nagash needs to do something more to both surpass the mod and still be a middle ground between balance and power.
Rat Swarms would be so good though, similar to Nurgling Swarms would be a really fun addition.
Slim chance, I agree.
But I really wanna have my dumb little sea of beady red eyes.
Same reason I want scarab swarms for Tomb Kings.
Thanqol with Boneripper as a mount and Stormfiends as an elite Tier 5 unit would be so cool to have for Skaven.
Blight kings could still just have their varied weapon look, and then just slap whatever weapon role you want on them(would make them more true to the models/unique looking). Another interesting option would be giving the unit a multi weapon role unit(might be broken though). Imagine a single unit that is great weapon, spear/anti large, sword and board, and dual wield(all advantages given at once). Would be very unique
I like what you were saying a lot with Nurhle, but if Natasha gets introduced, his faction would get water down if it would also be with two other factions. I think that a Nagash DLC should completely overhaul the undead factions. Where vampires would get overhauled and vampire coast along with them and maybe even work to Tomb kings as well.
Verminlords should be the generic lords for the DLC. Each of the verminlord variants should be added(similar to just choosing a different magic type slaan). The old school verminlords should be the generic monster version( just like the monogod factions have and exalted/regular version). You could also make them the generic hero option, or make the variants the LH’s for the DLC. Units could be stormfiends(variants), old school verminlords/exalted verminlords, burrowing behemoth, cauldron of thousand poxes, chimaerat, rat swarms/throtlings, flayerkin(maybe since end times/chaos focus), giant rats, or make new units. I personally think it would be cool to have 1 new unit for each of the main clans, as that would be a good ending for the skaven(also having verminlords/stormfiends).
would have been fun if they made a dlc called dead is raising. With vampire counts, vampire coast and thomb kings.
I’m hoping for something like HoI 4 focus trees. Like imagine if you can play a Gelt campaign where he falls under nagash’s control. It’ll also make a araessa saltspite campaign really interesting, she can get employed by the empire to help, fall under nagash, or even fall back to chaos. Really spice up campaigns over all that way.
What if Nagash is a legendary lord that other tomb kings can summon as a major campaign quest. Like gathering all the books of Nagash and or getting the black pyramid and building a special building.
Firstly congrats on 100k!! And I just want more content 😅 starting to get bored of what we have I want as much as we can get
Lots of great ideas. Only thing I disagree with is that Egrimm should be an eventual FLC lord, otherwise having to pay for a third Tzeentch lord when Nurgle and Khorne’s was/will be free seems a unfair kickback from how poorly SoC was originally delivered!
I could see magoth riders being a unit instead of heroes/lords, or I can see them being an ROR version of a regular magoth(similar to the mammoth heard for norsca). Turning a single entity unit into a 3 entity ROR unit. I could also see them being the generic lord/fat boy riding a magoth being the generic lord(not sure what they would call it).
The mention of more legendary heros in DLCs has made me think, what if Golgfag could get the other maneater models (ninja, pirate, est) as unique heros. I think its very unlikely but a ogre lover can dream.
A engrim dlc would be amazing. The cabal as a faction and tzeentch/ light magic hybrid tree he would have would be amazing
If they did this I'd like to see some of 3K diplomacy added so you could form the conclave of light, and whatever the chaos and undead versions would be called
I think they should make Glotkin faction as a part of Chaos Warriors to help Archaon conquer the world. The lore is the priority
Regarding Skreetch Verminking, I thought he would be more of a Legendary Hero for the Skaven Race as a whole rather than a Legendary Lord like Be'Lakor in the Realm of Chaos Campaign.
Tbh I haven't overly enjoyed TWW3, I tried and nothing felt like it really hit the mark or was as fun as I expected (plus constant grueling settlement fights drained me further)
I've maintained that a Nagash dlc would be the only thing to convince me to try it again, so if it comes I'll be tentatively eager to see how it plays.
I think having Rat riders (old deepcut/unique/funny) as a new would be awesome, but they could remake them by having stormvermin riding the gnaw beast from AOS(would be a really cool “elite cav unit). Imagine giving skaven an elite/semi armored cav unit(cool af).
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I've always wanted a slight overhaul to Ikit's workshop.
I've been saying for years that Skaven weapons are not exactly known for being stable and some skaven learn to stay clear of them to avoid being caught in an explosion, but people are always "No we don't want something that could damage units!" and then CA make Throt's lab where creatures can get cellular instability which damages the units and people are "Yeah, this is great!"
Why can't weapon team upgrades have a slight chance of something going wrong? Even just a tiny chance of a warpfire thrower exploding and damaging the unit?
And why can't we get clanrats pushing screaming bells/plague furnaces around similar to battering rams?! It looks weird have them rolling around on their own.
Also, I'd love to have verminlords as a summonable unit only available to Grey Seers. The Seer targets a unit and that unit takes damage as the verminlord eats some of them as it appears. (Similar to warpbomb).
A rat can dream, yes-yes.
What if the Glotkin are literally 3 characters in 1. So each have their own skill points and skill tree. So when the Glotkin level up. Each get a skill point. And they have a unik skill tree window, that allows you to turn the page, looking at each of their skill tree separately.
Man I cannot fkn wait for Nagash. It'll be interesting to see how they tie Arkhan into his campaign, if at all. I also really hope they give us much more utility and config options for the end game scenario mechanic. I also wonder if they might drop Vorag into the game when they finally get around to rejigging the Vampire counts.
I would completely love and be okay with a $60 expansion if it’s an end times case scenario where each faction is getting a final cherry on top maybe a few changes and we get an end times scenario with Nagash being a $20 piece of the dlc if they broke it up into chunks
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Honestly I'd much prefer the Glotkin as a legendary hero. Nurgle is currently the only Chaos faction with a dlc to essentially not have one since Kazyk is locked with Tamurkhan. And I'm just kind of a sucker for the idea of all the monogod factions ending with 3 LL's one greater daemon, one lesser daemon, one mortal. Any other Nurgle characters I'd like to see like Gutrot Spume or Valnir the Reaper I'd like to be Warriors of Chaos lords or as heroes.
They should use the Forgeworld Vermin Lord model for the SEM Verminlords, then use the ET models as 4 different Exalted Verminlord Lord variants.
“Warhammer fantasy and the end times are completely separate IPs with zero connective tissue or relation to one another.”
-Games Workshop (for some reason)
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Honestly the only thing ive actually wanted is an officially made chaos endgame crisis. It genuinly confuses me as to why undivided, mortals and demons dont have that in the end game settings. The only reason i could ever see is that they are planning a end-times dlc.
creative assembly devs can be very CREATIVE ho ho ho ho
TBH i dont wanna Glotkinn, we got too much nurgle atm... Well made Nagash and Thranquol are all i wish for now:). 3th LL for order would be much better. Maybe Khaine as LL able to lead or get as any elven race?
I fucking love apocalypses in fictional universes that don't affect my ability to actually enjoy the fictional universe further, fuck yeah
they should make some end time characters like big bosses in the campain. Nigash, Thanquel, Valtan, Glotkin. they could each change the dynamic of a campaign petulantly changing aligences something like that. i think Nigash should be a legendary hero but they should rework Arcon the blacks campaign so he needs to go around collecting the artifacts of Nigash
I always felt the end times could work really well as some of the ultimate crises at the end
Honestly if it’s end times I would be fine with even a 60€ dlc that adds one legendary lord with 1 end time unit to every fraction that’s in the game. I would pay that but I would want every fraction to get an end time oportiunity.
I could see EVH/tzeentch being saved for a Norsca vs Cathay vs Tzeentch DLC(lizardmen, Vcoast, Vcounts, TK, or brettonia could sneak in as well). I doubt we would get him for an end times DLC. I personally think a EVH/tzeentch vs Norsca vs Cathay would be the best. Then a Lizardmen vs Cathay vs Brettonia, and a Vcoast vs Vcounts vs TK(reworks) would be the best for the next DLC’s(although Vcounts could also get a COC type DLC).
I only hope for some presence of Ind and Khures.
And the Dogs of War units
Congrats on 100k my guy
I hope we get stormfiends in the Warhammer Vermintide style I prefer them to the more 40k looking tabletop ones but probably wishful thinking.
The only thing that worries me about that is the size of the DLC. The bigger it is (and CA thinks bigger is better now), the longer it takes. It could be a whole momentum-killing year, and then they'll be throwing up their hands wondering why it didn't make the money they were hoping it would. Just saying ...
9:54 I’m seeing it being similar to Slan for lizardman
Why oh why doesn't Vlad get a mount? He is the Mortarch of Shadow after all and militarily probably the most active and successful compared to the other three. Do look forward to pit Vlad against the Glotkin (and not have Vlad drink their blood afterward, such BS).
I hate the End Times. Preferred the Storm of Chaos being made into a DLC (, except for the stupidity of Grimgor knocking Archaon out with a head butt and then leaving him alive). This would enable, as was shown in the World Wide campaign that was the Storm of Chaos, that Order can win the war and drive back Chaos again. End Times is, if it had been played out on the table top, could only occur if all the Chaos players rolled dice that only had sixes on them. Total BS.
I hope that thanqual mechanics will also update Ikit and Throt since that can buff these units of stormfiend units with their respective laboratory mechanics. Because stormfiend is amalgation of clan scyrer technology and Clan molder flesh work of ratogres
Hey GZ on 100 K. Hope you'll hit 150 in no time! You are a creator I am looking forward to seeing new videos. I wish you good health, happiness and motivation!
I look my forward for the Maggotriders than spew for legendary characters added in the game
Congrats on 100k Subs, Nathan!
I wouldnt mind buying a Saga Like DLC (with price) just for Nagash or other large factions like Ind or Kouresh. When WH3 came out, i thoguht that was going to be the strat, but obviously i was mistaken. I'd do just about anything to play legit Nagash content. It'd have to include a large roster, probably mini campaign, have high polish and some IE map improvements or general undead improvements.
I would hope for a low entity monstrous cav riding Pox Maggoths. Maybe have the three Maggoth Riders proper as a Regiment of Renown.
I want my main man N-word-gash in TW WH3 to be based on the pre-millennium metal model and coloured like the 90s 'eavy Metal Purple robe Paint Job (its box art) with Necro Pimp Cane.
thanquel was introduced in shadow of the horned rat
I can't imagine them giving Nagash units from all the undead factions, seeing as most of them are DLC and they want those $$ bills. Maybe tho, may be.
Nagash can use all/most Undead units similar to owning Silent and the Fury but the other DLC Lords are unplayable
Egrimm needs to be a flc lord they drop for a skulls event promo!
Never once said give Tyrion (Avatar of Khaine) or The Witch King (Phoenix King) the ability to subjugate all elf factions....like Archaon can with Chaos.
I mean I am a Nurgle main so I would love to see Glotkinn. But the others would be cool too I guess.
The maggoth riders should be regiments of Renown. It would be perfect
Congrats on 100k.
Nagash could be the "undead undivided"
Damn, you got me hyped again.
Congratulations on hitting 100K subs GBG, good play!
My tinfoil hat theory is that we won’t see many DLCs after the upcoming one because the release schedule has changed, and 40k will come earlier than initially planned. We'll see the first 40k teaser this winter, with the game launching in early 2026. Warhammer 3 will get a massive End Times DLC at the end of 2025, which won’t be a 'normal' DLC, but will wrap up basically everything that’s still missing. I think we'll get Dogs of War and Monkey King first, and then the End Times DLC, which I believe will be gargantuan in both content and price, delivering everything we've asked for over the years: Cult of Ulric, Neferata, Thanquol, Nagash, and god knows what else they can include. Or im wrong and they just make dlc for the game even after 40k launched, who knows but either way im really excited for whats to come.
pfft after Space Marine 2s release im hoping they put more resources to the rumored 40k TW
Dunno how the can impliment Valten since Franz has the hammer and Franz is too popular to kill off. Maybe give him a model with his rune fang if Valten is picked? Id love to see a mechanic for Valten slowly working his way up into being the destined hero like how he had 3 diffrent minitures showing his growth.
Valten as a Legendary Hero
@@christiandauz3742 Would be nice they would still have to Model Franz with his rune fang if you got Valten.
I want either a dedicated nagash dlc or an end times campaign dlc
Personally I think there is much more interesting units in the various 6th edition army books and Storm of Chaos. Why would Thanquol need to recreate the Fellblade when its still in the world. Vampire Counts have plenty of stuff and Bloodlines would, again IMO be more interested in just Nagash - the mod is stupidly overpowerful - I would hate that to be the campaign - its nearly as bad as the Changeling. Again personally I want to destroy Nagash as Neferata
I think you're right about their being more interesting avenues to pursue. Expending more on loosely established groups within the world - likethe Amazonians or Araby -, or spotlighting absent, well defined, elements - like, Nerferata, as you mentioned - would be a much more beneficial and long-lasting well to draw from.
Fundamentally, the problem with drawing from the End Times (aside from its obvious horrendous writing) is that many, if not most, of the models introduce during that time were designed with AoS, not Fantasy, in mind. Why is Nagash literally as big as a giant? Because he's a centerpiece god model in AoS. Why is Nerferata riding a massive interchangeable, non-discript construct with no Nehekharan motif present in her or the constructs design? Because Tomb Kings don't exist in AoS.
Who is Valtan? Other than that question great video brother. I cannot wait for Nagash, hopefully they give Arkhan some campaign updates too?
Not a fan of nagash being able to recruit all 3 undead factions. Seems like kind of a cop out. I would rather have him either have a tomb king roster, or be able to pick from one of the three. Or mayyyyyybe pick bits from each roster. I would honestly be happy if he was just tomb kings with a few new units and some cool spells of his own, or at least cool buffs he can give undead/cool skill tree/tech tree.
Regular vamps still need Neferata and either Conrad or Aborash
I want immortal empires to have the realm of chaos from 2 and chaos invasion from 1. Bonus points if you can find Kaldor Draigo in the realms of chaos.
just random dude that is a one man stack or can randomly appear in a battle with bass boosted screaming
I would pay an unlimited sum of money for that massive end times dlc
If we get Nagash and for some reason not Neferata I will riot. Her faction is already in the game.
I'm really curious about that Nagash mod he's talking about, anyone knows the name?
To be honest i would preffer that the end tienes DLC were the last being released there is a lot could be done
CA PLEASE make estalia and tilea playable.
1 idea: 1 DLC with one estalian lord, one tilean lord, and 1 dogs of wars lord, there are at least two legendary lords for each one that comes to my mind in one moment. I dont know the exactly number of spaniards and italians that play the game but every single one of them would buy that DLC even if its the worst one you have ever made.
PLEASE they have been there since TWW1
Realistically they would be part of the Dogs of War faction
Same with the Border Princes and Sartosa
I @@christiandauz3742 i know i meant It more like one would play as tilea other as estalia and other as mercenaries probably something of the realm of nakai without actually having sentlements
With the End Times DLC, Warriors of Chaos players will never need to play a battle again because Auto-Resolve will always give them victories with negligible losses.
my big concern is that they drop some sort of "end times" pack, then GW will make them pull the plug on warhammer 3
Congrats Nathan
This would be the perfect last dlc to end the Wh3 journey
I'm fine with Verminlords being acquired through rites as long as they're not temporary like the Green Knight.
I pray all four chaos gods get something more after all respective DLC
Why? This whole game has been chaos stuff. Sick of it.
@@samhobbs9116 I kinda feel that was the point of game 3
@@user-md1tn6hq8p then game 3 shouldn't be out yet because no game 1 or 2 race is even done.
@@samhobbs9116 that’s like saying game two should’ve never come out- game one races aren’t finished either.
@@user-md1tn6hq8p I mean.......