Kevin Brittingham of Q breaks down the 8.6 BLK for us.

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  • Опубликовано: 16 дек 2024

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  • @pogeegitz
    @pogeegitz 5 дней назад +33

    This is the calmest, and most practical conversation I've seen Kevin have talking about his design process. I've always appreciated his designs even though they're not always what i want or need, but he comes about it from the right angle - what need am i trying to fill and why? Then design the "what."

    • @d3adlyz3bra
      @d3adlyz3bra 5 дней назад

      "his designs"

    • @pogeegitz
      @pogeegitz 5 дней назад +5

      @d3adlyz3bra in a small company where he has a lot of involvement and control of the design process - yes he's due a lot of the credit. That being said, you do notice he says "we" a lot - sign of a good leader.

    • @d3adlyz3bra
      @d3adlyz3bra 4 дня назад

      @@pogeegitz nah he bought into these designs and then plastered his name on them...

    • @d3adlyz3bra
      @d3adlyz3bra 4 дня назад

      @@pogeegitz kevin is too busy fighting pewscience on instagram to actually engineer anything

    • @jessesmith5932
      @jessesmith5932 4 дня назад

      I agree

  • @jaretmoskal5558
    @jaretmoskal5558 4 дня назад +9

    I didn’t really like the video that Kevin made about .338 ARC, but listening to him explain 8.6 at length I appreciated it a lot more

  • @pimpovic2
    @pimpovic2 5 дней назад +8

    That was a good watch. Thanks for taking us behind the curtain to understand some of the process involved in ammo design.

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  5 дней назад +5

      Thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the conversation.

  • @danielllewellyn5720
    @danielllewellyn5720 4 дня назад +2

    Thank you for doing this. I really enjoy these sort of deep dive Q&A interviews. Helps that I'm a fan of 300 BLK, Q, Kevin and your channel and all you do. Again, thank you..

  • @turrettooling1968
    @turrettooling1968 4 дня назад +3

    A subsonic projectile that is effective at 300 yards is a mighty achievement. Thoroughly impressed.

  • @harding3blake3
    @harding3blake3 4 дня назад +2

    This was a great conversation between two of the most well respected guys in the gun industry. It’s refreshing to see an honest conversation between two people who respect one another. I’m very excited to see Tim’s review of 8.6. I would absolutely love to see Tim and Jason go to Q and do a build and a tour. Thank you to both parties for putting this out for the world to see!

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  4 дня назад +2

      Thank you and thank you for watching. Kevin is traveling the world hunting right now but I hope to connect with him when he returns, sometime after the first of the year.

  • @Yoda052
    @Yoda052 5 дней назад +4

    Bought my first Q product this past year, a Mini Fix, followed shortly after with a Honey Badger. I can’t begin to express how exceptional these guns are. I will definitely be buying an 8.6.

  • @Whitehorze
    @Whitehorze 4 дня назад +4

    Awesome interview. Please do more of these long format shows.

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  4 дня назад +2

      Thank you. We will do them as they present themselves. There's a lot of knowledge out there and I would love to be able to document some of it. Thank you for watching.

  • @maxcole3930
    @maxcole3930 Час назад

    I assembled a 308 this year for deer & hog hunting. Used Aero M5 receivers Faxon 18" big gunner 308 barrel giesssle ssae-x trigger. I've only got 80 rounds through it between range & deer hunting. But locked down in the Caldwell lead sled shooting 150 gn core-lokts it's consistently shooting 1/2" groups at 100 yards. That's cold & hot, doesn't make a difference. That barrel likes that ammo which is what I use for deer. I have other Faxon barrels & they all shoot good. But I have been extremely impressed with the 308 Faxon!!!

  • @ravissary79
    @ravissary79 4 дня назад +5

    A lot of people arent picking up on WHY Kevin seems so annoyed by Hornady. Q isn't an ammo company. So this isnt just competition 💩 talk.
    If you listen to his side of this, Hornady was ORIGINALLY a collaborator on 8.6. Q was positioning them to be the primary ammo company for it. They gave them guns to experiment with. Hornady made a sub x for them. Because Q isnt an ammo company they NEEDED a partner to make 8.6 happen.
    Hornady essentially pulled out, leaving litle Q without a corporate sponsor. No one to lobby for SAAMI approval no one to produce volume and increase availability.
    They had to push back their rollout for a couple years and re-position with totally different companies and go the wildcat route.
    Then Hornady rolls out 338arc, talks smack about 8.6 and pretends they had nothing to do with any of it.

  • @mikenstien1861
    @mikenstien1861 5 дней назад +5

    WOW 😲, finally I got my answer why chrome lined barrels are less accurate! Thank you! When searching the Web all I ever got was "They don't shoot accurately". Thank you 😊

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 2 дня назад +4

    🇺🇸

  • @tellystefanopoulos5163
    @tellystefanopoulos5163 4 дня назад +2

    Kevin and his team are geniuses

  • @josephgervais4974
    @josephgervais4974 5 дней назад +14

    When Kevin said let me know if you need rifles or ammo for testing and I’ll hook you up I got excited. I love military arms channel testing!

  • @dchando77
    @dchando77 5 дней назад +2

    Great! Very awesome interview! Thanks.

  • @stacksfarmstead
    @stacksfarmstead 5 дней назад +13

    Love 8.6 and 300blk.
    Haters inbound.

    • @vicdiaz5180
      @vicdiaz5180 5 дней назад +3

      lol only thing I wish is the prices to come down on them

    • @Yoda052
      @Yoda052 5 дней назад

      @@vicdiaz5180but if you REALLY compare the prices of high end guns, Q’s prices aren’t nearly the highest. Look at B&T’s prices, it’ll make your heart stop.

    • @whiplash636
      @whiplash636 5 дней назад +2

      ​@vicdiaz5180 Handload, brother.

    • @MrCruz9996
      @MrCruz9996 3 дня назад +1

      300blK is extremely reasonable on pricing. Especially if you source from AAC

  • @jayinmass
    @jayinmass 4 дня назад +1

    Awesome interview.

  • @jonnidiffer3828
    @jonnidiffer3828 4 дня назад +1

    Awesome show loved

  • @raifcluster
    @raifcluster 5 дней назад +1

    I've never owned an 8.6, and most likely will never buy one, but this is one of the best discussions I've seen in many years. I'm a 300BO fan and was able to glean all kinds of great information from it. Thanks guys. Kudos to MAC.

  • @rondobrondo
    @rondobrondo 23 часа назад

    Man it’s so nice hearing people say good things about 30 super carry. I haven’t picked it up yet because ammo companies are still trying to gut us like dead fish, and I’m not really buying any ammo at all these days, just going through my stash, and I hope most people are doing the same, or at least trying to get it as cheap as possible or buying remanufactured ammo or making their own instead (just doing anything to avoid paying full prices)
    But once ammo prices go down at least a lil more, I’d love to pickup a super carry option or convert a gun to super carry.
    It’s crazy how good it is

  • @richarddixon7276
    @richarddixon7276 5 дней назад +1

    120 minutes gone in 10 minutes flat , Wow 8.6 twist rate makes time go faster, lol . This was so interesting the time literally just flew by . Thanks Guys , & Merry Christmas everyone . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well.

  • @ericlindholm7510
    @ericlindholm7510 4 дня назад +3

    Thank you guys very much for having Mr.Brittigham on your channel. Great video that gave lots of information.

  • @turrettooling1968
    @turrettooling1968 4 дня назад

    Oh, I'm so glad you feel the same way I do about 30 super carry!

  • @cerebralfirearms
    @cerebralfirearms 3 дня назад +1

    Great video. Can’t wait to buy some products from Q. I’ve been waiting to see if I still want to go that route but fuck do I love their bolty bois.

  • @MrCashewkitty
    @MrCashewkitty 2 дня назад

    Got to shoot a whitetail with a buddy's homebrew, 8.6 bolt gun this year. Taken with a sub at around 100 yards. Absolutely devastating. The sound of that massive bullet making contact was nuts. That rotational energy is real

  • @jordanbagwell32
    @jordanbagwell32 5 дней назад +1

    This is the best podcast ever

  • @Ivanovitch2885
    @Ivanovitch2885 5 дней назад +1

    Everything in firearms is a tradeoff because of physics. In the history of firearms the 2 that most people have played with are velocity and projectile weight. So barrel length, bullet construction, and powder were what everyone changed to achieve the goal. That spans smokeless and black powder. Well now twist rate has been added to the mix and expands the field on what you can play with to achieve terminal ballistics. The only reason 1:7 exists in 5.56 is because of M856 and M855 to make them stable. Not to help them perform better on target but just make them work in the M16 because of the lineage of the cartridge and technology available at the time.

  • @MattWaller04
    @MattWaller04 5 дней назад +14

    This is exactly the nerdy technical discussion that I am in the mood for today 😎😎😎

  • @martinroskres1297
    @martinroskres1297 5 дней назад

    Glad you had Kevin on a very interesting segment. From afar away stance seen Ammunition companies not work with firearm companies. Case an point is the 350 legend. A reintroduction of the century old 351 self loading.

  • @johnovanic9560
    @johnovanic9560 5 дней назад +1

    Excellent video!

  • @firearmshunter101
    @firearmshunter101 4 дня назад

    Outstanding cartridge for safari

  • @JR15A2
    @JR15A2 3 дня назад

    I'm intrigued by Kevin's mention of the ballistics testing of 8.6 BLK, especially the "jail test." 🤠

  • @djfingerslinger9726
    @djfingerslinger9726 4 дня назад +1

    Ik Kevin is a controversial character in the firearms space but I’m almost curtain it’s because he’s trying new things and that pisses off all the fuds I’ve been listening too the “Live Q or Die” podcast for a while and I love him hes the Joe Rogan of gun culture

  • @maxximus2012
    @maxximus2012 5 дней назад +1

    6.5 Grendel Duramags are the best for 6.5 Grendel and 6 ARC. Where those mags fall off is when you try and go beyond 15 rounds...

  • @daygonwatkins2282
    @daygonwatkins2282 3 дня назад

    Tim has a video of him shooting a SFAR suppressed and unsuppressed and he got good reliability in both configurations.

  • @nathanatramp
    @nathanatramp 4 дня назад +1

    Ethan Lessard not being recognized for his contribution on these designs is absolutely criminal. Theres a great man, with skill, who is advancing this industry. I want to speak to him about yhe nerd shit.

    • @ravissary79
      @ravissary79 4 дня назад +1

      How is he not recognized? He's all over Qs material on this stuff. He's been interviewed, cited, etc.
      But Erhan is a quiet dude. He prefers the quiet life.

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 18 часов назад

      You should call him.

  • @joshshepherd5660
    @joshshepherd5660 5 дней назад

    Makes me happy to hear the discussion regarding S. Dev. If you have put any time into really trying to squeeze accuracy out of a round you're developing, as long as you track ENOUGH data, you come to accept that s.d number being significant. When you really hit on a good one you can get down under 50 or even 25fps.

  • @joebob4609
    @joebob4609 3 дня назад

    Enjoyed this

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s 5 дней назад +4

    I can't wait to get a Boombox!!! My Honey Badger needs a buddy!!!

  • @lordhuck2689
    @lordhuck2689 5 дней назад +1

    Most interesting thing said was that a 6.5 Creedmore 16” boombox exists.

  • @otterconnor942
    @otterconnor942 4 дня назад +2

    338 arc is only for sub sonic. It's for people who don't want to deal with supers and subs, and only want subs. 8.6blk is for people who want supers and subs that thump. They're different in purpose.

  • @WhatAboutTheIndividual
    @WhatAboutTheIndividual 4 дня назад

    Good stuff.

  • @mikenstien1861
    @mikenstien1861 5 дней назад +1

    Very interesting discussion! Especially about twist rates and subsonic projectiles in rifles. Since I'm still learning about such things. Always wondered why pistols had slow twist rates. Now I'm wondering if a fast twist in a 45acp would work better? But I'm not an engineer...

  • @cwolf8841
    @cwolf8841 4 дня назад +2

    Brittingham is very impressive 0:09

  • @maxcole3930
    @maxcole3930 Час назад

    Question for Kevin, if he could only build 1 300 bo sbr or pistol. What barrel length would you choose for supper & subs?. You said military went with 9 just for storage & 12 is better for suppers. What's best length for both?

  • @mordechaigist9401
    @mordechaigist9401 5 дней назад

    Built my 8.6 BLK AR. 12 inch Barrel. It is funnnnn.

  • @bobbyw4pd
    @bobbyw4pd 5 дней назад

    The magpul 6.8 mags are still made. Brownells and midway USA still list them. I have a lwrc receiver set that I built into a pistol with a 1:7 twist. Ironically never shot any subs through it. Thinking of using it for a 338 spectre since shooting subs is more my interest now anyway.

  • @mbmurphy777
    @mbmurphy777 5 дней назад +4

    It’s super cool, but the ammo is always gonna be ridiculously expensive with all that copper in that giant bullet

    • @Yoda052
      @Yoda052 5 дней назад +2

      And that’s why you reload.

  • @ravissary79
    @ravissary79 4 дня назад

    Barnes used to make a series of copper expanding Spitzer bullets with a tungsten lead colloid core they called silver something.
    Something like a Maker expander with a tungsten (heavi shot style) base would take FULL advantage of that spin.
    What kind of weight could that allow for? 🤷‍♂️
    Maybe 375-400 grain?
    I'd love to see what's possible.

  • @ryanpersohn6012
    @ryanpersohn6012 22 часа назад

    Is your site up to buy shirts?

  • @jordannorton1795
    @jordannorton1795 4 дня назад

    Just started watching this but immediately went to comments…I’m definitely intrigued now because I’ve never seen as positive of a reaction to any video or interview Kevin has done.

  • @brandonlathrop484
    @brandonlathrop484 5 дней назад +1

    The question I really want Kevin to answer is this, is the rpm of a bullet travelling at 1000fps out of a 1:3 barrel not literally just equivalent to the rpm of a bullet leaving a 1:9 twist barrel at 3000fps?

  • @mgabriel2636
    @mgabriel2636 5 дней назад +1

    The degree of non concentricity of jacketed ammo interacts with twist rate to produce greater or lesser inaccuracy. Faster twist is NOT better with imperfect ammo.
    Of course copper solids change that calculation.

  • @theturkeysopinion
    @theturkeysopinion 5 дней назад +1

    I think I can hear a Boombox in my future😎😁

  • @bananawatch8158
    @bananawatch8158 5 дней назад +3

    Why can’t you put a can on a sfar? I do. Am I making a mistake?

    • @EtherFox
      @EtherFox 5 дней назад

      You absolutely can suppress an SFAR but it's going to eat the lifetime like it would on any gas-operated, plus additional impact due to the reduced size/footprint compared to previous AR10/LR308 makes.

    • @meanman6992
      @meanman6992 5 дней назад

      You just need to restrict gas pressure at or before the bolt carrier / piston (the carrier acts as a piston due to the expansion chamber the gas gets vented into pushing the carrier rearward, and unlocking the bolt due to the cam grove geometry)

    • @bananawatch8158
      @bananawatch8158 5 дней назад

      I installed a rifle speed gas block. It’ll be fine. But Q said you couldn’t suppress it

    • @Nillersoon40
      @Nillersoon40 5 дней назад +1

      @@bananawatch8158 Nah not what he said. It will not be military ready but fine for backyard plinkning. You got ears?

    • @bananawatch8158
      @bananawatch8158 5 дней назад

      @he said you can’t suppress it you clown.

  • @grantvicknair
    @grantvicknair 5 дней назад +1

    In the first 5 mins Kevin mentioned the hornady 135 CX (doesn't exist) did he mean the 135 ftx or the 110 CX?

  • @scholasticaltactical9058
    @scholasticaltactical9058 4 дня назад

    How bout a 1 and 1 twist in 450 black cape, like cape of Africa and Cape buffalo or 500 black hole because it causes a black hole of registration

  • @mot0rhe4d40
    @mot0rhe4d40 5 дней назад +2

    " A lot of the ammo manufacturers got lazy cause of the Co0F. "
    😆 Of course they did. Making $40-$90 a box for your normal wares, will do that 😆

  • @DirtySouthDevil
    @DirtySouthDevil 2 дня назад

    Love this conversation but at 1:12:25 I have a problem with you guys comparing upper to lower fitment tightness on the AR platform to the tightness on a 1911 barrel to slide, slide to frame fit. Slack in AR uppers and lowers seems to be simply laziness and unacceptable machining tolerances to avoid having to scrap more parts that get machined outside those tolerances. Not the same thing at all. And i don't believe for one second that tight upper/lower tolerances cause reliability issues. Tell that to SOLGW and their rifle owners!!! My Son's of Liberty rifles are as solid as if they are one piece and among the most reliable and most precise I have.

  • @johncrow9952
    @johncrow9952 2 дня назад

    All the brains of 2A

  • @meanman6992
    @meanman6992 5 дней назад +1

    1:1 twist, for shooting copper pencils 😂 (loooooong projectiles)

  • @mytmousemalibu
    @mytmousemalibu 4 дня назад

    Im curious if Q / KB ever tried, considered gain-twist rifling for high twist ratios. Perhaps an answer looking for a problem? But if gain-twist ever has any relevance for small arms, something like these high spin cartridges might be it.

  • @calvinkurucz6370
    @calvinkurucz6370 5 дней назад +1

    Tim please we've been waiting going on 7 years now for a new hunting video. Please for your long Time fans

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  4 дня назад +1

      I didn't think anyone cared. We'll see if we can get some hunting in for 2025. It's hard to do, I'll have to reconnect with some folks.

    • @calvinkurucz6370
      @calvinkurucz6370 4 дня назад

      @Militaryarmschannel thanks so much Tim! Thank you once again for all your amazing content as always. All the best for 2025

  • @cutlassman1
    @cutlassman1 4 дня назад

    I have always wondered why they haven't made a faster twist on 3006 and 308 where some are 1 -12 or 1-10 ?

  • @kaydengenta4857
    @kaydengenta4857 5 дней назад +5

    Guns and ammo for 338 ARC are available now at Next Shot Precision

  • @mattnikirobidou
    @mattnikirobidou 4 дня назад +1

    300blk!!

  • @humanbass
    @humanbass 5 дней назад +2

    I actually think 8.6 is too small of a leap in diameter compared to 7.62. It is a much smaller difference than 5.56 to 7.62.
    9.3mm would be closer to the ideal increase.

    • @EtherFox
      @EtherFox 5 дней назад +1

      There are balance tradeoffs to everything.
      If you're going up to 9.3mm, why not go all the way up to 10mm? And while you're there, why bother with a proprietary bolt head, just use the 30 Rem/6.8SPC/10mm/40SW case head. And if it's mostly for suppressed use, why not go as low as commonly available 180gr subsonic loads? Why bother with a custom cartridge at all when you're just re-making 40SW and can relatively cheaply shoot it for $.35/rnd?
      I know what ya mean, at the same time. It's the fact that there are common 338 bullets that will fit 8.6BLK (338 ARC) that has people going down this route. Otherwise, 9mm/.35 is also a better leap in diameter, but would it be worth the increase in bolt thrust/recoil? Gotta be the people actually taking the leaps and testing the builds to determine.

    • @ravissary79
      @ravissary79 4 дня назад

      The bullet diameter was limited by the rib on the sr25 magazine.

  • @amym828
    @amym828 5 дней назад +8

    Thanks but, I'm going with 338 ARC

    • @herrgable9787
      @herrgable9787 5 дней назад

      It seems to be just as expensive, and less capable. Why?

    • @Yoda052
      @Yoda052 5 дней назад +1

      Good luck… no brass, no loading data, waiting at the mercy of Hornady that spent almost a decade developing it (if you buy the story). I’m going 8.6. If the Boom Box is half as good as my Mini Fix and Honey Badger, it’s well worth it.

    • @amym828
      @amym828 5 дней назад +1

      @@Yoda052 What you want to do is fine with me and I will do what I want to do. I don't need your approval for validation of my choices. I won't be buying my firearms or ammo from a crybaby when someone announces a competing cartridge.

    • @Yoda052
      @Yoda052 5 дней назад

      @@amym828 Wow, that went dark quick. Buy anything you want, but your rationale is akin to saying, “I’ll never buy another Walther because they supplied the Nazi’s.” I don’t buy Q because I want to make Kevin happy, I buy Q because they’re great guns. By the way, I have met him, a very long time ago. He was early into AAC working out of a strip mall in Georgia. He’s come a long, long way from there.

    • @whiplash636
      @whiplash636 5 дней назад +1

      ​@@Yoda052Midway literally has brass for 338 ARC right now.

  • @RcB_1985
    @RcB_1985 5 дней назад

    I'm a big fan of Kevin and Q but the time it takes me to save up for any of Q's products it too long bc I get real close then something cool I can afford comes along and I break but I will have a fix and boombox no matter how much shit I get at work

  • @grantvicknair
    @grantvicknair 5 дней назад

    Where was the photo

  • @timothystanleyjafo8503
    @timothystanleyjafo8503 4 дня назад

    And yet canada will Never get to see it. Tim S. Canada

  • @cutlassman1
    @cutlassman1 4 дня назад +1

    Garand Thumb did gel test and they were in amazement with 8.6 blackout.

  • @AusJackal
    @AusJackal 4 дня назад

    Why didn't they call it a 338 blk... ?

  • @meanman6992
    @meanman6992 5 дней назад +3

    I just want to see more CFD modeling of the projectiles from trans-sonic to purely subsonic.
    Many people don’t realize trans-sonic is turbulent but still considered “sub sonic” by most, but air flows very differently between what’s trans and what’s truly sub sonic.
    Trans sonic is when the bullet is sub sonic but in some areas air accelerates around the projectile to super sonic velocities and causes a lot of strange behavior.
    Correct me if I’m wrong on anything by all means

    • @WIDGET738
      @WIDGET738 День назад +1

      Trans sonic is when it identifies as something different with rainbow colors.
      LOL, but really it goes SUPER>TRANS>SUB as a supersonic bullet travels thru the air. So trans sonic is the bullet transition from super to sub speeds (1115-ish to like 1200fps).

  • @hopewilliams6705
    @hopewilliams6705 5 дней назад +7

    One of the few pompous & arrogant people I like!!!

    • @rmp5s
      @rmp5s 5 дней назад +2

      Hahaha...that's awesome. I get a massive kick out of Kevin.

    • @pogeegitz
      @pogeegitz 5 дней назад +1

      I thought he was actually pretty calm and logical in this conversation. He does get worked up sometimes 😂

  • @seanschaffer9484
    @seanschaffer9484 5 дней назад

    I have questions! Excellent discussion also!
    8.6 solid copper vs an enging block, what happens?
    Has he ever tried to tighten a 556 or 308 twist rate down to 1/3 or tighter?

  • @MARKSMAN108
    @MARKSMAN108 4 дня назад

    the cope is real...

  • @SM-eu5xl
    @SM-eu5xl 5 дней назад +13

    .338 ARC enters the chat and watches Kevin B melt down

    • @herrgable9787
      @herrgable9787 5 дней назад +1

      @@SM-eu5xl is .338 better? I thought it was smaller and less powerful

    • @newerest1
      @newerest1 5 дней назад +1

      ​@@herrgable9787if it's better it comes at the cost of weaker bolts faces, more unique mags, and less reliability

    • @SM-eu5xl
      @SM-eu5xl 5 дней назад +2

      Better? Don’t know. Don’t have either. My point was KB was so threatened by the release of the 338 ARC he put up a video on his companies YT channel whining about it.. ironically, he is always defensive when people questioned the 300 BLK and now 8.6 BLK

    • @killacamfoo
      @killacamfoo 5 дней назад

      he'll be in the comments on his personal account to let everyone know why a non-SAAMI spec cartridge is so much better than the one that is - and doesn't require 1/3 twist barrels.

    • @ravissary79
      @ravissary79 4 дня назад

      Wishful thinking.

  • @TheAirSofterblaster200
    @TheAirSofterblaster200 3 дня назад

    His guns are cool, but wayyy too expensive.
    A the Fix rifle/ pistol would be awesome, but not at the price it is.

  • @nickedds2907
    @nickedds2907 5 дней назад

    338 spectre is better

  • @TheBlackTrapper
    @TheBlackTrapper 5 дней назад

    Before i start....how much of this is just shit talking the .338 arc ?

  • @mobeus5019
    @mobeus5019 4 дня назад

    Why is every video with someone from Q come off as arrogant?

  • @iamFlopez
    @iamFlopez 4 дня назад

    Can't stand Kevin's need to trash talk his competition.
    Not in this video, but his response to 338 ARC is exhibit A.

  • @robkilcollins310
    @robkilcollins310 5 дней назад +1

    Cool. Foolish and wasteful, but cool.

  • @jasonbourne1985
    @jasonbourne1985 5 дней назад +1

    chump copy of the 9x39mm

    • @firearmsfuelfabrication
      @firearmsfuelfabrication 5 дней назад +2

      Actually. 338 arc is the chump copy of 9x39. They share the same parent case. 8.6 blk has far more potential. Subsonic is Subsonic. But when you go super . Holy crap. Plus heavier pills in 8.6 blk makes a difference as well

    • @kvpham
      @kvpham 5 дней назад

      which nobody use

  • @Xlanigga
    @Xlanigga 5 дней назад +3

    338ARC doesnt need a fuck in ar 10 and has a 30round standard capacity. 8.6BLK lost all its purpose

    • @lordhuck2689
      @lordhuck2689 5 дней назад +1

      So it’s claimed… we’ll see.

    • @Xlanigga
      @Xlanigga 4 дня назад

      @ what do you mean? We already now those things are facts

    • @lordhuck2689
      @lordhuck2689 4 дня назад +2

      @@Xlanigga it’s all on paper dude. Let’s see the 338 guns and ammo in the hands of reviewers. Right now it’s all empty claims.

    • @Xlanigga
      @Xlanigga 4 дня назад

      That is true on the ballistics side but I think everyone is being overly skeptical. What we do know is it’s an ar platform so that right there 338 beats 8.6 for me. Now the claims that 338 arc doesn’t need an adj gas block remains to be seen

    • @ravissary79
      @ravissary79 4 дня назад +1

      338 arc 30 round magazines?
      Where?
      8.6 uses standard mags. 338 arc doesn't.