Are Nigerians Regretting Their 'Japa' Move? | Rubbin' Minds
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The way to reduce migration is not to tell people not to go, it is to improve the country to the point where people don’t see the need to leave anymore, except for vacation
Fulani will develop Nigeria. That country is a waste of time. Yoruba and Igbo leaders sold us out to the Fulani’s. Shame on them. With fake constitution Nigeria will not change.
Every situation can be changed , good or bad . Rwanda , Singapore , UAE etc are examples. It all depends on Nigerians
@@victorylapp you know you can easily relocate to rwanda and don't come back.
@@victorylapp You are very correct 💯...
@@jidebolarinwa697 And that is why we are where we are now as a nation. You talked about Rwanda, did you know what the country went through and how they have been able to recover to the level in which they are right now? The so called almighty China today, Indians are doing great for themselves because their citizens in diaspora returned home to make the difference...
So help us God...
I left Nigeria because I wanted peace of mind.
I live in a country where I can put in the work and reap the rewards.
Bull 💩💩💩
You can live in Nigeria with all your skills and rot. The country don't support hardwork.
@Masud Saleh Leave the Igbo man alone. He didn't create Nigeria problem, check the reason for the civil war without bias. How many Igbo person's have been president since 1999?. The issues are not caused by the Igbos, they are caused by Nigerians, most of which are your brothers. Let's stop blame shifting,. The black race is cursed, it's only the back race that has the history of catching his brothers and selling them off to the highest bidders to make money.. Don't expect it will be less with politics, greed is enshrined in his creed.
You garrit!!!
@Masud Saleh You contradicted yourself in one statement, you started an argument and said you don’t want to argue. Please can I have some of that thing you are smoking 🚬.
The truth is to ask those that migrated what happened. Some Nigerians may be regretting but they haven’t told you what happened or what they did. For example, some borrowed money and struggling to pay. Also, some lied to the school about money. I came to the UK few years back and have 2 Masters without any support from anyone and doing well. Don’t have time for social media or pictures. When you move to a new place, it will be hard but then you will balance.
Also, some are lazy and want to live like a queen. Here is to work, safe, help people and then enjoy. I have stayed focused to the end for the reason I came here.
A friend once said “I’m not feeling the UK” within 3 weeks in UK and I laughed. Here is not a bed of roses, you wake up to work even during the snow and rain. I’m happy I can help people back at home.
Anyone that want to travel for a better life, go ahead but have a solid reason and stay clean. May God help us all.
Very encouraging
Thanks
Wow. That's very good brother. Which country do you stay sir?
@@harisonchinonso3873 I’m a lady not a man. I’m in UK
Spot on👍
you are right
Left Lagos in the summer to take up a software eng job. Returned to Lagos in December for the Christmas holiday & was grateful to myself for being able to live there and develop myself. No regrets so far
Thanks brother want to follow same route
Well done Tonba. Enjoy the leading edge technology.
Simple answer is: No, Nigerians who migrated properly are not regretting.
Infact they bless God everyday for an opportunity to escape their own country.
And more will if the election goes wrong.
Well said buddy
Exactly! These people don't understand...
After about a decade or 2 in the west, you will re-evaluate your life because all of the things that attracted you to the country earlier will then mean nothing to you as your spirit, soul and body yearns for a life of simplicity in an African village.
@@dejijames4516 yes of course we will yearn for home at the right time which is when as you have stated comes in........use your strength wisdom etc
@@dejijames4516 You are a smart man.
The guy from the U.S is being political with his answers, both of them don't represent what most pple face abroad. Let me help you with the downsides
Loneliness
Depression
Racism
Filtering system (they will filter you out with any opportunity they get, they take care of their pple first so before you get a good job you have to be solid or very good at what you do)
Bad weather (cold is not romantic, leave movies out of this)
Menial jobs (most pple who come here to study are not used to menial jobs like warehouse and cleaning but the system is structured to set you up to do it )
Bills
Culture shock (no social life, bad food, stringent regulations. Nothing too bad but if you re not used to it that's a problem)
Benefits
Basic amenities
Money( it's hard to save money here but if you do manage it well, you will be comfortable especially if the money is used back home)
Experience ( coming abroad makes you more open minded, you get to understand what pple go through)
If you re a middle class or upper middle class earner in Nigeria and you want to give up everything to travel, make sure you do YOUR OWN research because once you are in the system there is no going back.
Facts
If basic amenities and money are the only advantages for you, then you are short sighted or prolly not doing well yourself.
@Chimaobi Wogu. You stated good points but if you have to use the money back home make sure you're right there managing it for yourself. You don't want to get disappointed when you hand it over to people and they mismanage it for you and even feel entitled when asked, family members inclusive. A lot of people change when they see money
@@drenity4041 Basic amenities is an advantage because that's what makes life easy and whereby they are not available or scarce, life becomes unbearable as it is the case in Nigeria. Moreover, not many people like the generator noise and pollution, some prefer the quietness. In all I think the government knows what to do but they don't really care due to their selfishness, so they act like they don't know why people are japaing. It's sad
@@godschild4615 what I even meant is that basic amenities and money are icing on the cake for relocating for me. Do you know what it means to be a global citizen? You can't even value that. You are limited with your green passport take it or leave it.
Did anyone notice how hard it was for those guys to find the downsides of moving abroad? The most important thing is to have a plan and not get carried away. the truth is most of those complaining about the hardship they face after relocating never come back to the media to share the story of how they eventually succeeded and how well they are doing now.
God bless you
and de interviewer was busy forcing lies into dir mouths... Thank God they are educated, exposed and didn't buy in his myopic mentality.
If you want to japa without regret, go with your 1 year rent, upkeep money and your full tuition. If you decide to manage funds know it will be hard. It's not a matter of regret but a decision to face the storm and survive.
Spot on!!
i swear
Pls, how much is 1 year rent?
@@DDO1433 just calculate the weekly rent you get , depends on the area ranges are 400 to 1000 pounds ..
Ok .
Always a delight to hear Jake speak! Well done on all the perspectives.Thank you Hero, Jake & Igho... I guess the message is clear and he who has ears, should hear.
Interesting discussion!
However, I found Jake's contributions to be the most cohesive and balanced. Unfortunately, the moderator's opinionated input sounded convoluted and defensive. Diasporans like self are very happy to call where they live home, home where you are protected, respected and rewarded! Where life has value and your children have the promise of a future! A quality of life, regardless of the scare stories, that is miles ahead of the mess in Nigeria. As Jake pointed out, there are people thriving in Nigeria, but the vast majority aren't!
Finally! Nothing, and I mean nothing beats the ability to see the choice locations of the world visa free: Travel without the trauma of a restrictive travel document: Your worldview and experience are so enriched in ways you can not even imagine!
Best Wishes, everyone 😊
It’s sad that countries as poor as Cambodia will have 24/7 electricity but an oil rich nation like Nigeria has not diversified it’s economy as the U.A.E. has. The problem begins with mentality. Black-African nations still aspire to their former colonial masters. It’s pathetic and the world is laughing at us. Angolans aspire to Portugal. Ivorians aspire France. And Nigeria aspire to the U.K. and the U.S. Forget ppl physically doing japa, many while even at home have japa. When you prise imports over domestic - you have already japa. When you watch TV and romanticize life in America or the UK - you have already japa. When you show no respect to locals but in the same minute become polite to a foreigner - you have already japa. When the government doesn’t protect àwọn ọjà ìbílẹ̀ (domestic goods) - you have already done do japa. When you don’t train the working class w/ tarde skills (e.g. masonry, carpentry, welding, àti bẹ̃ bẹ̃ lọ) and allow the Chinese to bring in their own labour force - you done japa. When your presidents get treatment overseas - you are doing japa. So, when people get enough mo₦e¥ and opportunity arises to fly the coop they will for they have already been groomed by the leaders’ behaviours. The perfect festering conditions to chain react the ‘Brain Drain' effect. I mean, vehicle co. like Nord, IMV, or Kantanka might be knock-down kit vehicles but that at least creates jobs and builds skills versus shipping in fully assembled vehicles. In the U.S. their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Ford and Dodge. In Germany their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Mercedes and BMW. In Czechia their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Škoda. In Japan their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Honda and Toyota. All that will tickle down to local labour, upholstery, glass making, etc. These companies will have R&D divisions to aid them move out from knock-down kit from Asia to domestically producing the whole car at home employing many. Africans have to think long term and not so bleak and doom or selfishly.
Japa is here to stay until we wake up and compete. Our race is being humiliated and people would rather interracially japa to spare their children the humiliation of a failed people. Japan was bomb with nuclear power in 1945. Japan has no mineral resources. Yet today they have skyscrapers, electricity, great education, least corruption, their own style and system (not always trying to copy Westerners). What is our excuse 🧐
The moderator really is opinionated, & in a subtle way pushing his opinion.
You have said it accurately. You have said it all.
@@serpentserpent9308 you said it all. But are they listening? Greed rules Nigeria
The comment I was actually looking for. Very balanced. I live abroad and this is the best decision I have ever made.
Japa is running away not migrating
WHAT a professional discussion ,kudoo guys, great questions and answers , im very blessed to japa, i gave god glory to make it successful till date, please advise nigeria government to do the needful, they brought this problems upon the citizens of nigeria
It’s sad that countries as poor as Cambodia will have 24/7 electricity but an oil rich nation like Nigeria has not diversified it’s economy as the U.A.E. has. The problem begins with mentality. Black-African nations still aspire to their former colonial masters. It’s pathetic and the world is laughing at us. Angolans aspire to Portugal. Ivorians aspire France. And Nigeria aspire to the U.K. and the U.S. Forget ppl physically doing japa, many while even at home have japa. When you prise imports over domestic - you have already japa. When you watch TV and romanticize life in America or the UK - you have already japa. When you show no respect to locals but in the same minute become polite to a foreigner - you have already japa. When the government doesn’t protect àwọn ọjà ìbílẹ̀ (domestic goods) - you have already done do japa. When you don’t train the working class w/ tarde skills (e.g. masonry, carpentry, welding, àti bẹ̃ bẹ̃ lọ) and allow the Chinese to bring in their own labour force - you done japa. When your presidents get treatment overseas - you are doing japa. So, when people get enough mo₦e¥ and opportunity arises to fly the coop they will for they have already been groomed by the leaders’ behaviours. The perfect festering conditions to chain react the ‘Brain Drain' effect. I mean, vehicle co. like Nord, IMV, or Kantanka might be knock-down kit vehicles but that at least creates jobs and builds skills versus shipping in fully assembled vehicles. In the U.S. their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Ford and Dodge. In Germany their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Mercedes and BMW. In Czechia their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Škoda. In Japan their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Honda and Toyota. All that will tickle down to local labour, upholstery, glass making, etc. These companies will have R&D divisions to aid them move out from knock-down kit from Asia to domestically producing the whole car at home employing many. Africans have to think long term and not so bleak and doom or selfishly.
Japa is here to stay until we wake up and compete. Our race is being humiliated and people would rather interracially japa to spare their children the humiliation of a failed people. Japan was bomb with nuclear power in 1945. Japan has no mineral resources. Yet today they have skyscrapers, electricity, great education, least corruption, their own style and system (not always trying to copy Westerners). What is our excuse 🧐
Serpent Serpent honestly you have said it all will our leaders learn from this I doubt cos they are selfish self centered n wicked for crying out loud MAY THE LORD OF ANGELS DELIVER NIGERIA
@@serpentserpent9308 Please post this brilliant comment of yours in the main replies to the video.💯❤️
Home is wherever you and your family have peace of mind. I am a Japarian 😃
Lawyer Jake well spoken points 👏 👌 🙌
Nìce Jake....
You are really articulated and I honestly Like the way you air your view on the Japa topic, PLS keep up with the good works.
I have no regret japaing, I migrated the legal way and living much better in the UK. No stress, hoping for power supply, bad road, etc. But no matter what we still miss home.
It’s sad that countries as poor as Cambodia will have 24/7 electricity but an oil rich nation like Nigeria has not diversified it’s economy as the U.A.E. has. The problem begins with mentality. Black-African nations still aspire to their former colonial masters. It’s pathetic and the world is laughing at us. Angolans aspire to Portugal. Ivorians aspire France. And Nigeria aspire to the U.K. and the U.S. Forget ppl physically doing japa, many while even at home have japa. When you prise imports over domestic - you have already japa. When you watch TV and romanticize life in America or the UK - you have already japa. When you show no respect to locals but in the same minute become polite to a foreigner - you have already japa. When the government doesn’t protect àwọn ọjà ìbílẹ̀ (domestic goods) - you have already done do japa. When you don’t train the working class w/ tarde skills (e.g. masonry, carpentry, welding, àti bẹ̃ bẹ̃ lọ) and allow the Chinese to bring in their own labour force - you done japa. When your presidents get medical treatment overseas - you are doing japa. So, when people get enough mo₦e¥ and opportunity arises to fly the coop they will for they have already been groomed by the leaders’ behaviours. The perfect festering conditions to chain react the ‘Brain Drain' effect. I mean, vehicle co. like Nord, IMV, or Kantanka might be knock-down kit vehicles but that at least creates jobs and builds skills versus shipping in fully assembled vehicles. In the U.S. their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Ford and Dodge. In Germany their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Mercedes and BMW. In Czechia their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Škoda. In Japan their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Honda and Toyota. All that will trickle down to local labour, upholstery, glass making, etc. These companies will have R&D divisions to aid them move out from knock-down kit from Asia to domestically producing the whole car at home employing many. Africans have to think long term and not so bleak and doom or selfishly.
Jápa is here to stay until we wake up and compete. Our race is being humiliated and people would also rather interracially jápa to spare their children the humiliation of a failed people. See Japan…they were bomb with nuclear power in 1945. Japan has no mineral resources. Yet today they have skyscrapers, electricity, great education, least corruption, safety, their own style and system (not always trying to copy Westerners). What is our excuse 🧐
If all you want is comfort then thats perfectly fine.
@jey fomson Why do people migrate or go for vacations in the first place, is it not for comfort & better living!
@@genicsgames Why people migrate or travel is purely subjective it isn't always comfort.
@@jeyfomson6364 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I believe that after this show, the presenter would be thinking of his own Japa moves. 😅
Thank you Igho and Jake for very articulate and straightforward opinions on the subject matter.
What a refreshing/enlightening discuss and impressive young men(journalist and the 2 participants alike). Well done gents. Hopefully the youths are watching this and soaking the deep messages. 👏
I love you guys for saying d truth.
Migration is not limited to Africa or Nigeria. British, American and European are moving to various countries including Middle East because they find better opportunities.
Also the moderator already made a personal decision, why did he invite panelist😮
God bless you , people travel for different reasons. We have Americans in Nigeria,we have UK citizens,indians in Nigeria.
What a wonderful session by Igho, Hero and Jake.
These issues are very important and it is vital that all Nigerians understand the modalities of migration.
Some believe Jakpa is the way to go, for peace of mind.
Though not for everyone, I feel that people must make the nation conducive and safe for jakpa not to even be on the menu.
Thanks @Channels, @Hero and @Ekaks...
Thank you Bar. Jake
This was an awesome and balanced discourse about the 'JAPA' syndrome.
What does Japa mean?
I also know someone who is in America, but never went to school in America, she went to LASU and today she earns 6 figure salary, and a VP Associate in her company. All thanks to Nigeria Education.
If u are poor pls u can japa to uk . But if u are rich in Nigeria pls stay at home or else u will be doing hard jobs like cleaning . Selling in the market or
You’re correct
The first few months to years after migrating abroad is never easy but it's all about managing your finance and planning ahead strategically. The struggle abroad is still better than that in Nigeria where nothing works and insecurities worsen daily. As long as you're focused, in no time you will settle in the country you moved to.
Feel relieved..
You’re 100% correct….people need to manage their expectations. Relocation requires time to settle down as there’s no shortcut to this
Thanks Jake for your compassionate sincerity
Nigerians are treated as 2nd class citizens in Nigeria.
So, you think you're a first class citizen in Nigeria? Wake up from your slumber. Nigeria deprives you of basic rights and support that many immigrants get effortlessly in many western countries. Frankly, most Nigerians are treated as 3rd class citizens in their country through various systems put in place by the cabals and the ruling class. One of them is the qouta system. There are many more that puts many Nigerians at a disadvantage. Wake up, dude!
Nigerians are treated like shit in Nigeria 💯
Great interview and wonderful responses 💡💡👏🏾👏🏾
What do we call the migration that took place in the 60s , 70s, 80s and 90s. Are those Japa too? 🤔 From time immemorial, Nigerians have always been traveling out of the country at any opportunity. The question to ask is, why is the British and Canadian embassies issuing visa to the immigrants? America started issuing visa based on lottery, starting from early 90s and nobody call it Japa then. Now, Britain open their boarder to international students and seeking for health workers. Nigerians suddenly woke up from having brain drain. It is political session and things like these are always the topics during election.
Jake, you did great!!!
God will bless you Jake!
This is a well rounded perspective. The Moderator had to balance the Japa spectrum because both Jake Okechukwu and Igho Ekakitie were not against it. Intially there was the Japa wave in the 60s (indepence) , then the Andrew checking out Japa of the 80s. Then things stabilised through the 90s and early 2000s. In the last 5 years, the world population has noticed the shrinkage in the working population hence these new programmes of lowering the bar on immigration. Every country has citizens that migrate. Plan your migration if you are itching to travel. It is definitely not all gloomy like some Nigerian platforms/organisations/influencers are trying to portray it. It may not be paved with gold, but you know that the chances of being kidnapped, rare electricity supply, bad infrastructure experiences is low. If you don't like it go back to the motherland. One advise though. If you are getting on in age, think it through very carefully. If you have nothing to loose like you don't have a good business/job in Nigeria and can legally travel, then Japa. Enough ranting, live your life, this is it.
they are not against it because they have left nigeria and know the truth
@ade o In your opinion, what age limit would you advise to rethink the Japa thingy??
@@DonnaAnnan 45
@@DonnaAnnan I gave myself a 40. That anything after 40 I won't go again. But you are still good at 45 with good plans. If not for you for your children.
@@drenity4041 thank you...
Good job Jake!
The two invited guests on the show really spoke excellent well. The show is indeed an eye opener.
Abroad is Good, if you have a proper Document with Good plan you will never regret coming to Europe
It’s sad that countries as poor as Cambodia will have 24/7 electricity but an oil rich nation like Nigeria has not diversified it’s economy as the U.A.E. has. The problem begins with mentality. Black-African nations still aspire to their former colonial masters. It’s pathetic and the world is laughing at us. Angolans aspire to Portugal. Ivorians aspire France. And Nigeria aspire to the U.K. and the U.S. Forget ppl physically doing japa, many while even at home have japa. When you prise imports over domestic - you have already japa. When you watch TV and romanticize life in America or the UK - you have already japa. When you show no respect to locals but in the same minute become polite to a foreigner - you have already japa. When the government doesn’t protect àwọn ọjà ìbílẹ̀ (domestic goods) - you have already done do japa. When you don’t train the working class w/ tarde skills (e.g. masonry, carpentry, welding, àti bẹ̃ bẹ̃ lọ) and allow the Chinese to bring in their own labour force - you done japa. When your presidents get medical treatment overseas - you are doing japa. So, when people get enough mo₦e¥ and opportunity arises to fly the coop they will for they have already been groomed by the leaders’ behaviours. The perfect festering conditions to chain react the ‘Brain Drain' effect. I mean, vehicle co. like Nord, IMV, or Kantanka might be knock-down kit vehicles but that at least creates jobs and builds skills versus shipping in fully assembled vehicles. In the U.S. their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Ford and Dodge. In Germany their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Mercedes and BMW. In Czechia their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Škoda. In Japan their municipality authorities 🚔 make large orders from Honda and Toyota. All that will trickle down to local labour, upholstery, glass making, etc. These companies will have R&D divisions to aid them move out from knock-down kit from Asia to domestically producing the whole car at home employing many. Africans have to think long term and not so bleak and doom or selfishly.
Jápa is here to stay until we wake up and compete. Our race is being humiliated and people would also rather interracially jápa to spare their children the humiliation of a failed people. See Japan…they were bomb with nuclear power in 1945. Japan has no mineral resources. Yet today they have skyscrapers, electricity, great education, least corruption, safety, their own style and system (not always trying to copy Westerners). What is our excuse 🧐
Sometimes one wonders if there's something inherently wrong with the black race. Na wa o.
Correct
IF EVERYBODY LEAVES WHO'S GONNA DEVELOP THE COUNTRY??
ANSWER: THE POLITICIANS
Nigeria will be very developed if that happens
Lol
Thats not for me to answer.Question is how many people don comot out of the over 200m Nigerians?Just about 100k in 18months and we re all making noise.Don't guilt trip people that legally japa to get quality life.If you put quarter of the effort you put in Nigeria,you will over survive.
@@adewaleaina5399 That's a very good Perspective Mr Adewale Aina. We over sensationalize what ought to be the norm, lots of Nigerians deserve some level of exposure.
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Fix Nigeria and I bet you, JAPA syndrome will die naturally
fix what, nigga u never enter kidnapper before abi, the govt cant fix shit and there wont allow to rule
Amazing every thing is all about plan 👍👍👍👍
@@ebeleyaaigbiremonlen4555 What plan
That fire alarm battery is weak in the ad that's why it's squeaking. Pay attention to it.
Jake has an excellent thought! You can't force anyone to remain in dirt! Let them japa if it will better their lives. Nigeria has traumatized & destroyed too many lives! It should never have existed in the first place!
People fail to understand is okay to japa but the thing is do it right or wrong just know ,first few years Your going to sponsor your self to keep up till your eligible for state support and remember is a circle ⭕️ no room for super progression you get ,you pay out and keep it moving
There is room for super progress if you plan to take courses that boost your career and income.
I love this guy
I want to build from the scratch
Redo the interview with people who travel in the last 5-6 months mostly to UK let’s see how they feel.
Glad you found a good Nigerian Church
Yes, Nigerian Churches can be so helpful in Europe and the Americas. Supportive and helpful.
Only for some miscreants start screaming 😱 " the church is terrible, bad, they only take money....etc
Great watch
Hero is such a good fit for this program... so you can be serious like this
what happen to me who registered but tried all means to get it stamped so I can get PVC but could not.
Apparently, the presenter has a myopic view of migration, its dynamics and terminologies.
Legal labour migration shouldn't be confused with illegal migration (ocean crossing).
There's nothing new about emigration from Nigeria. In fact, the numbers are lower compared to the 60s, 70s and 80s when it was easier to relocate/travel as a Nigerian.
The number of Nigerians legally relocating is a minute proportion of the country. In the UK, Nigerians don't even make the list of the top 10 countries of immigrants.
There's an overbearing fixation on legal labour migration in modern Nigeria. We must realise that most of the Nigerians migrating are not average Nigerians and they know what they doing and leaving behind to go to those countries. The media should be more focused on illegal migration and campaigning against it, and working to upturn the drivers.
To restate the obvious truth, Nigeria is a lost cause. A holistic personal and social renovation is needed.
Blind patriotism isn't what will fix Nigeria. We need to be frank, factual and faithful. The presenter was trying to guilt-trip migrants as being unpatriotic. Make e no worry, many of us were there (even more successful than him) before we saw the light and took flight. Even though he is a TV personality, he's just one police or hoodlum incident away from regretting being in Nigeria.
I'm not even sure the presenter knows Jake is a former BBC presenter and producer. He could have simply taken a cue from Jake's wisdom and not go contradicting his guests. Gross unprofessionalism.
If you know any Nigerian who migrated abroad legally that is regretting their relocation, just advise them to return home and see their reaction. . You can preempt their reactions, right? Another point is that some Nigerians have unrealistic expectations about migration and they soon get disappointed by the staggering realities of their new country of stay. Some are also not patient to build in a system that allows growth. How do you get into a country and start regretting within a week or two? Migration must be done with a long term goal. Wish everyone the best in their decisions.
You have said it all
Seconded!
Well said.
It don't matter how rich you are when living abroad, it is priceless the feeling of being at home with your own love ones!Of course if financial one can't support the life at home then I understand but you will only feel completely FREE and happy at home!I love Africa and our people! Outside Africa you are a minority and that in it self is soul destroying!Could someone prove me wrong?
Abroad is tough but they don't want to come back. Mad talk.
Nice droppings from Jake and Ohio
Nigeria has over 200m people, you have more than enough people in Nigeria to build Nigeria, if all of us abroad return to Nigeria can Nigeria house us? Feed us? Give all of us jobs?
For example of all our nurses and Doctors in UK alone return to Nigeria does Nigeria have the number of hospitals to employ all of them? And if yes can those hospitals pay them the equivalent of what the hospitals in Uk pay them? Now add USA, Canada and all of Europe together. It’s impossible.
amazing speakers. thumb up guys
15:52 Very good question 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Nigerians are not regretting, I repeat Nigerians are not regretting.
For all about foreign remittance to Nigeria the ones remitted through the back doors might exceed the ones remitted through the banks, our professionals and non professionals living out side Nigeria is a great resources for Nigeria otherwise the Nigeria nation wouldn't have have survived the covid era, weather you have plan or not you must find a way to survive.
Fraud and freelance remittance is contributing a lot more too
Thanks to the interviewer and the host.
With determination, focus and perseverance if you japa you will eventually make it.
There is a lot of poor people in the UK.
Poor in UK is not the same as poor in Somalia for example poverty get level. Poverty pass poverty. Poverty is in stages.
Woa, Look at Igho o.. I'm happy for u. Great Uniben, Great ASF, Great Sapele
And here I was thinking it meant moving to Japan, 😂 lol
i worked 4 years in nigeria, i was able to save about 1m, drove a 2003 corolla,, went to canada, first year i saved 20k dols, drive a 2020 model car, have peace of mind. i was robbed once in traffic, once at home where i was stabbed in the hand. I have no regrets. Japa if you can
Tell them the truth
@@fabfati right I find it hard to believe that a new immigrant can save 20k in his first year
@@esosaomoregbee5916 possibly, if he's a minimalist!
@@esosaomoregbee5916 I support him it was a typo error because its possible if u lived a minimalist lifestyle and you’re not doing things for the gram or sending money home it completely possible
Bros abeg show us the way na. You save 20k as an immigrant in your first settlement year. You na boss o
I'm watching from the U.S... I love the mindset of Nigerians. This was a balanced and thoughtful conversation.
Yeah. I buy the idea of focusing less on the noise and move forward with positive mindsets. Nigeria makes us believe that living a frustrating life is inherently the best before you make it. It's annoying, how the rich get richer and the poor are living in hell.
These guys won't tell people the truth, men you don't have documents, you will suffer that is after you finish your university program. The guy who calls himself a lawyer, why didn't he stay? Well, the answer is he, can't practice without documentation which is not easy to get. Nobody will employ in Europe or America without the right to work.. just tell your listener the truth. I am a living testimony to that fact. Well, geologist indeed. Boy, no job for a geologist, such a role is not easy to get, that's the job of the citizen haha. I have a degree in geology, oh boy I had to go to university to study for another degree just to secure a better job.
Geologist is now an international relations expert. Abroad dey make you change career sharp sharp
One could be living a comfortable life in Nigeria, but they stick to that deadly mentality of leaving the country for greener pasture for a lesser job and an inhumane environment that you aren't welcome. But the most important statement to them is "he lives and works abroad"
We should also talk about making Nigeria BETTER for Nigerians back at HOME. We Need to Build our Country for Better. The panelisT LacK vision. More Waek aRse Nigerians running Away
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I love this interview, Nigerians are intelligent 👍
Good discourse ❤
Balanced conversation from Jake--You are really a lawyer.
Jake is not what the moderator expected on the show, he wish Jake could advocate blindly for people not to japa.
Lol.. Africa is the future! Japa is not the solution.
It's actually right to migrate, but we all should show a very good example in the society where we're going to. I live in Germany and I know the system is tough but most of us are trying to thrive in different directions to make it great.
They foolishly think they don't have to pay bills.
Everything is free.
Mumus, you will learn.
Why vulgar words.
You could easily contribute your own quota politely as the two young guys did.
Which one is they foolishly bla…… bla…..
When you pay bills nko, people have been paying even before you were born.
@@olanipekunaliuopeyemi238 he speaks bla bla like his principal bala blu
In Nigeria you don’t pay bills you live for free I guess, govt pay bills for you? Anybody advising a youth to stay back in Nigeria is a devil. People are in Nigeria they are no longer talking about future they are looking for food, you are comparing them with people who migrated to US, UK, CANADA etc
Lol leave them, I know how much of rent and bills I pay every month. Let’s not even talk about other expenses like car insurance, renters insurance. See if you are still in Nigeria and you have a cushion job, abeg stay where you are,
Why the insults it's not necessary please.
Japa literally means escape! Nigerians are escaping to other countries not because there are guarantees that life will automatically transform into a paradise.
Relocating to a new environment means you're starting from scratch.
Even if you're Dangote's kid, you will still experience challenges but with patience and the ability to adapt.
Things will ease off and you will get to enjoy better life over time
If you plan well you end well don't use those that go through wrong way going through sea and road to compares those that travel in genuine ways and I know someone that travel by road to Europe he is a banker working in the back. He plan well
There is NOTHING to REGRET moving aboard. I repeat, NOTHING!!! You are either doing things right or just doing things wrongly. There are many Nigerians/Africans doing well abroad and there are many more doing very bad.
Is it the right move for you?
Is it the right time?
Do you have all it takes to live in that new country? - Skills (soft, hard), cultural awareness e.t.c.
Is it the right country or province for you?
If you want to live abroad count the cost
If you must live abroard, do the research
If you must live abroad, be culturally aware - Some people will never get good jobs - they are super insensitive.
How dare you just wander far away from home without a plan A or B or even C? - This always amazes me.
Living abroad is not a license to be lazy - Living abroad does not come with any entitlements. There is something called work here too. Nobody picks money on the road.
It's already too cold for you to come here and be a dull person. Don't do it!
People don’t go to the market with a currency called patriotism ; keep your jingoism , people must eat and they will find it anywhere it is available
Igho wow! That was engaging weldone
The truth is no matter the level of progress, the abroadian is a Nigerian at heart.
We want to live in the 21st century but the leaders we have are strongly wedded to the precolonial feudal era.
So as long as this disconnect between aspiration and inflexible traditions are not called out by progrssive forces of change, we will continue to experience japa for fulfilment purposes.
Moderator - the guy Jake just gave you an intelligent answer despite living in Nigeria. There is no Social security in Nigeria and a lot of people are surviving on Diasporans remittances. Do you have jobs for people who can't find jobs in Nigeria? You want them to rot there, just because you are able to find your way. You are not serious..
I think there are two categories: Some follow illegal means and jump the fence and break their legs without a plan on the other side... Some go abroad legally with their plan.
True but you should know that not everyone is lucky to japa legally thus people japa with whatever resources or means they have.
The conversation should be beyond euphoria of JAPA as a negative connotation but creating an economic model for growth and sustainability. In 10years down the road, with a deliberate policy thrust, the outcome of Migration will be favourable to the country and this should be tailored in such a way that harnessing the human capital is priceless. And this should be the focus. This is what Diaspora Innovation Institute has been building since 2012. Migration is natural and JAPA should be seen in a positive light.
If the home is uncomfortable in your country don't blame the country. Blame the governance , lack thereof, or its corruptness. Get rid of it and replace it with one that works for the people. Why would anyone want to flee NIgeria with all its natural resources of flora, fauna, and minerals? it doesn't make sense. Those who see the error of their ways are to be commended.
This Jakes guy dey talk sha... Well read guy!!!!
I love him he always say the truth and he is doing well
What does Japa mean?
One can always naturalise , we have options, if this Country continues to be run like this, people just have to move out!
Just wish most county will allowing Nigerians passport...
The lawyer gave a great response and made logical sense. Different strokes for different folks I guess
They are not talking about how difficult it can be to get a WORK VISA which is usually the only way you can legally work in a foreign country. Even with a degree, it’s not that easy to get a job with a work visa when your student visa expires.
And to get the student visa is extremely expensive.
Develop your skills and the job would come
They also not talking about when status goes out which is almost an inevitability. It just comes faster for some than others except in the case of green card lotteries and the likes.
Getting a work visa is challenging but still very possible to get the work visa.I got work visa despite all odds when the post study was about to expire.There are now various schemes in the UK and Canada where you can get work visa after studying. For example,studying Al including Data analyst courses in UK gives you a great possibility to be given work visa after studying.There are vast job opportunities or vacancies in these countries.
@@josbeam8550 the USA is very different. I stay in the USA and studied a STEM course at masters level and getting a work visa especially since post covid has been a Herculean task. This discussion was not balanced at all. Igho was just speaking plenty English and didn’t get to the meat of the matter.
@@Iphie2019 I don't know about the US.I know about the UK system.But against all odds whether USA or other countries what you need is upskilling,which will definitely opens doors for you.
Mr Igho needs to tell me which redeem church in Missouri.. I guess he is someone i should know. I have lived here for over 10 years.
The government should provide should provide us with basic amenities (Water, electricity, good road etc),then we'll stay in Nigeria.
Pay doctors and I.T people well and they won’t leave, why are senetor, house of rep and even councilors earning more than Drs
cool
nice open discussion..
I get sad, broke, hungry sometime but I do NOT regret japa at all o
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What is the benefit then 🤔
There is no place like home, not when your home is on fire.
No amount of money human can make will be enough for them. Bring content is the 🔑 to being successful.
Japa if you can please 🙏 .. No place like how
So sad though we can’t blame people the system is failing daily please fam vote PETEROBI
Obi will never be president. Shame on you for using this platform to vote a corrupt candidate like obi. You Nigerians are not tired of suffering. Fools