The Trickster's Song: Wild Dogs of Kaimere
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2023
- Although Earth's urban settings are quite different than anything found in the known world, convergent forces have resulted in the same sorts of wild dogs being by far the most successful in both contexts: jackals, foxes, and other small generalists able to thrive in the shadow of far mightier neighbors.
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Canids are some of the best animals, glad to see them getting some representation in Kaimere
Heck yeah! They definitely deserved an episode.
@@TalesofKaimere Honestly? Kinda surprised theres no hesperocyon canid around.
The way you describe the panther hound is hilarious.
Thanks! Wanted to underscore that they are, in fact, little bastards
What’s the biggest thing they can kill
Sweety, the devil chihuahuas coming
@@rylanbrewer3320 Probably a cow buffalo or an unlucky harduki
I was so sad that the amphicyonids didn't have any living representatives... and then you surprised me. :D
Also shout out once again to your fur textures because they are wonderful. I struggle with texture in general and you inspire me to get better at it.
Thank you so much! Yeah the beardogs aren’t doing great, but they’re holding on lol
there dogos be like: “reject pet,become wild”
This is the way
Note about the episode ! :
- The Kaimeran/Common Jackal first/old and second/current design/illustration (this latter made at the time of the "Domesticated Dogs of Kaimere" episode) are all both as canon at 100 %. The first/old one isn't obsolete by any mean.
They are both just two morphs of the same species in the middle of a sea of variety.
Due to a tremendous degree of variation in size, coat color, and density within the common jackal species complex.
As four harvests of hybrids make up the overall population, some consider them a single species while others break them apart into as many as a dozen.
Cladistics of the jackals is a taxonomic nightmare and there’s so much variation considering as some populations have as many as six different ancestral species that most just lump them into one species: Canis kaimerensis.
The Kaimeran Jackal is alway perceived to be mainly the hybrid species between the Golden Jackal and the African Wolf but others, more minors, species are obviousely part of his genetic.
- The illustration of the Tree Fox, seen in the "Mammalian Predators of Kaimere" episode, depict in reality a Common Fox (one of his numerous morphs).
This mistake is due (in the universe of Kaimere itself) to the fact that the Common Fox and Tree/Garden Fox were for a long time considered as the same species, before more studies put more light on their true nature.
Hence why the Common Fox was refered by the name of the Tree Fox instead in this video.
The current one update and clarify this error.
Talk about going to the dogs, you went all out! I love this, especially the howling sound effects put into this. I'm gonna feature a good variety of canids in my own fantasy world, but I don't know if I'll approach the domestication like Kaimere did. That description of the Panther Hound was rather shocking and the inclusion of a Bear Dog was incredible to say the least.
Well done Keenan, once again!
Thank you so much! Was a delight from start to finish
Thank you for this birthday present! I gotta admit, the wild dogs are some of my favourite mammalian predators right behind the large felines, but if I have to pick a favourite, it'd be the wolf, which used to be very common in my country...
Well happy birthday! We don't have wolves here where I live (despite what many locals will tell you), but there are plenty of coyotes and red foxes! Always love seeing them out and about.
@@TalesofKaimere Why thank you Very much my friend. Well, they're extinct where I do live, but Jackals are very common. Well, Coyotes and Foxes are very adaptable if you ask my humble opinion, so it's a very small wonder that they don't thrive in kaimere.
@CApTINcOwPoX 42 Thanks a million times.
Happy birthday, mate !!
@@MrT_Rex Thank you a million times my friend.
Some really great species here! I especially love the Hedgeback! Something about relic species beating the odds always makes me happy!
Heck yeah! Love me a survivor story. Good perseverance there
I loved all of this! Especially the monsoon forests and the last remaining amphycionids. Bear dogs (or at least an animal GREATLY resembling them) are at the top of most food chains in my project, and have taken the many niches that bears would otherwise inhabit (because there’s no bears in my setting). Some are even ridable! Actually, I was super excited about it until I remembered wargs from lotr, and then realized I just made wargs lol😅
Haha fantastic! You also got them warg-like entelodonts! Was stoked when you told me about them
@@TalesofKaimere yeah! But those are on a different continent separated by a great ocean, so they evolved completely independent of eachother. Honestly if they met it’d probably go down the same way it did in real life between bear dogs and entelodonts haha
Beardogs presence is nice suprise. Knowledge that they were major predators even more so.
I love canids, especially wolves! Glad to see wolves in Kaimere! I could see the fox being seen as a trickster on Kaimere similar to the Kitsune of Japanese mythology.
Absolutely! They are pretty universally seen as tricksters, though it depends on the culture if this is appreciated like the Pakardiant or hated like the Qajarith.
Finally! It is good boi hour!
The Best Boys of Kaimere. ❤️
Finally an episode on my favorite animals. I have been waiting for this episode for very long. Great to see that Amphicyon still holds on in Kaimere as the Hedgeback.
The panther hound is really special too.
Awesome job Keenan.
Thanks so much! Was a delight to put together
The Monsoon Forest (at 14:27) is a coastal forest isolated by deserts (in red), located in the extreme East of Arvel (in light blue).
In term of overall landscape apearance, the Monsoon Forest have many similarities with the landscapes seen in the "Walking With Dinosaurs" episode 1 "New Dynasty", for comparison.
Love the music an howl chorus
Thank you! Seemed a good pairing for this episode!
Update about the Predatory niches History of Kaimere after the Tyrant Dynasty Extinction :
The Creodonts, represented mainly specifically by the Hyaenodonts, became temporaly the apex predators right after the "Tyrants Dynasty Extinction" event.
However, they ruled only the first part of the "Warring Clades" period, the following era after the extinction event.
While the second part of the Warring Clades period was ruled by the Megaraptoran, Abelisaurid, Giant Dromaeosaurid, Entelodont, and now, as we can see here, the Amphicyonid, aka the Bear-Dogs.
All of them fighting for the throne of apex predator of the Planet.
The wars was rude and harsh.
Finally, the Megaraptoran won this contest and obtain the Crown.
While the Abelisaurid, Giant Dromaeosaurid and Entelodont ruled Kairul who was separated from Arvel and Ni'Khar. Had a good run before, at one point, the Megaraptoran reach Kairul too and leave alone only one member for each of the three clades alive.
And the Bear-Dogs, them, also had a good run on Arvel all this time as vassal predators and managed to keep a generic bodyplan typical of their familly.
While the Creodonts evolved to only be represented by very derived forms and loss their famous generic bodyplan forever.
But overtime, while the Creodonts thrived in these new forms, the old-school Bear-Dogs decreased in number step by step, to end up in Modern Kaimere to be represented by one single specie who live in the Monsoon Forest in Arvel, the current Hedgeback.
Like what, as this example spectaculary shown, remaining unchanged and using only the same tricks in Kaimere isn't a great plan in the long run.
The complicated taxonomic history of _Canis mosbachensis_ must be an absolute nightmare for the Assembly to deal with lol
Foxes! Love the diversity on display here, makes sense that the most adaptable modern canids would fare so well in Kaimere
One final point, is the Common Hyena's range meant to extend into the Üshalek? Or is the forest just like " *I slaughter every animal that enters my domain and make them serve me* but hyenas are fine, we chill "
Some kind of symbiotic relationship perhaps?
It is. Again there are camps saying it should all be one species as they can all freely breed, others who designate over a dozen, but most settle on the four shown on the slide. The species definition can get quite complicated in Kaimere, as most Earth species are separate by geography, but for the first million or two years in Kaimere after harvesting, many related species are thrown back together and it can take a long time to properly speciate again. A genetic and taxonomic nightmare indeed, though the eventual species often become quite well adapted as there is a wide pool of adaptations to naturally select from!
The hyena is not supposed to be in the Üshalek. That forest is trapped beyond the mountains, the placement of which had not been finalized until after I made this map. I really need to update it in my creature profiles so elevate any confusion!
Kinda sad the bone eating dogs are all gone, but you've been gracious enough to allow a relict population of beardogs to survive and my in process witch oc will be more than thankful for that lmao
Although not all clades are particularly diverse, caniforms are not doing bad at all in Kaimere. Basically all families, with the exception of Hemicyonidae are present.
It sounds awesome that we are going to venture further into western Arvel in the next anthology. It's one of those places that are so close to the Known World yet still full of mysteries.
Thanks, and absolutely! I want to show that even the known world continents are still quite diverse, more than we see so far in the known world itself. Even just off the map has some surprises!
The wild doggos are here!
Finally we can find that ancient calicothere line that currently live in those monsoon forests. Yeah!!!!!!
Heck yeah!
great video as always just waiting for a permian island one!!!
End of next month! I'm quite excited!
Finally
While their aren't at all members of the Canidae, Wild dogs, family, I was noneless good and nice to have shown the
Amphicyonidae, aka the bear-Dogs, and speak about their history on Kaimere.
Even if their aren't part of the true canids family, the Amphicyonid were however very closed, just before them, to these latter. Their mention and presentation in this episode is so justify and deserve.
The Bear-Dogs were the most basal group/family of the Caniformia suborder (itself inside the Carnivora order), in which belong also the true Canidae, Ursidae (bears), Pinniped (seals, sea-lions and walruses), and the Musteloidae (which include the differents mustelids families).
They weren't between the Canids and Bears, which would have made their named representative of the true phylogenetic situation.
But despite that, the Bear-Dogs were, with the Hyeanodonts (and Creodonts in overall), the biggest carnivores that roamed the earth during the Cenozoïc, and have a very successfull run on Earth !
The dire jackal is my favorite. It's so pretty!
And someone sure hates panther hounds with that diss track! They remind me of painted dogs of Africa. I take it that painted dogs nevr established themselves on Kaimere.
And I love that hedgeback dog! Very menacing like a bear. I wouldn't be surprised if some Kaimerans thought they were homunculi of a bear and some kind of dog before they realized it was natural.
Thank you! I’m really happy with the dire jackal design.
Haha yup they must have done some rough stuff to that naturalist for such a glowing recommendation lol
That was likely an early theory! They are certainly formidable animals to the point where a supernatural background isn’t an unreasonable notion
@@TalesofKaimere What's the next episode topic gonna be?
This, this is what the dogs have been doing
While Hyenas aren't part of the Canidae family, and not close relative, being memeber of the Felimorph group, making the more closely relatived to Felids, it's was noneless good to have present them overall in this video, due to their ecological interactions with Wild Dogs.
Also, I can guess that Kaimeran must mistake them a lot with Wild Dogs, to be members of these latter, due to the overall physical similarities.
What if pachycrouta was harvested how would it do
@@rylanbrewer3320 Don't know.
Wake up babe, wild dogs of Kaimere dropped
The grand video with surprising Twist on a certain species in the end. Everyone's love how you point out of several species of canids are crossbred with each other much like how it is on Earth with coywolves hybrids and wolfdogs that are the ancestors to the black wolves.
And I also had suspicions that the coyotes and jackals would crossbreed
@@paleo-zoo-keeper-association Black Melanistic Wolves in North America and Europe, and Melanistic Coyote don't received their melanism morph due to crossbreed. They already have and displayed this mutation before crossbreed events with dogs.
Melanism mutation is a genetic mutation very widespread in nature, due to an excessive ammount of pigments produced.
Absolutely every animals species on Earth can display independantly this mutation without ny hybridization intervention.
Since wolves are the direct ancestors of dogs, their wild form, if these latter have this mutation, so their ancestors obviousely have it too.
The fact that black wolves are common is sure due to crossbreed, but was already widespread before.
While very widespread and usefull to every animals, because never an disavantage in nature for them, the melinism mutation is rare in open-habitats and is only very displayed frequently by animals in semi-forested or forested habitats, since she's more uselfull for camouflage.
The African Leopard is a prime example of that. Black Panther are thriving in Asia, while they are very rare in Africa.
Thanks so much! The cladistic mess that is modern Canis lupus species complex was a fun idea to incorporate
The hedgeback looks like my dog when she's playing
Man i love canids , especially dogs and jackals.
They're very impressive and adaptable animals!
@@TalesofKaimere that is why i love them
There any true Jackals species on Kaimere. Only Wolves species who are called under the vernacular name of Jackal.
It's like the Flying Gophers on Kaimere thus they are multituberculates and that there no true Gophers rodent on Kaimere as far I know.
It’s so awesome to see canids be represented at long last.
Have kaimerans or the other human species of Kaimere ever attempted domestication of the other species? You’ve mentioned the Shu and jackals but based on the way you described it that’s (geologically) fairly recent.
There have been numerous attempts, but most species have significant obstacles to domestication. Dire jackals are too skittish to breed in captivity, mainland dholes and panther hounds are too aggressive, foxes urine smells horrid, etc. Most prairie jackals are too aggressive and nervous around people, so it was only after they were bred with feral khalin dogs that some could be domesticated which was indeed a fairly recent process.
A bunch of wild good bois.
Aww, some good dogs :D
They are indeed!
Kaimere goodest bois.
I find it odd that the coyotes are restricted to such a small range, coyotes on Earth live in desert, forest, rainforest, mountains,and taiga. On Earth they are poised to conquer South America. Between the way you describe their attitude on Kaimere, as well as their Earth biology I feel that they should be spreading their range. Also if you want to read more about ‘yote biology I highly suggest a book by Dan Flores called Coyote America.
They are restricted on Qajar because there too nuermous others canids outside this specific region, in all the possible niche they can fitt otherwise in normal time.
Plus, with all the species of wolves that exist, the 3 others who are the Pakardian/Southern Island Wolf, Arvelith Woff and Common Jackal, the Coyote would be very quickly inegrated into their populations.
They are not so superior as to dominate the comparable jackals in the same niche. Some have spread north, but the resident jackals tend to be more aggressive and competitive so mating and integration is rare, whereas they were the residents in Qajar and the northern jackals coming in got integrated instead.
Of course, the diversity of canids species is higher outside the borders/realms beyond the Known Wolrd, whatevers foxes, wolves and Borophagines.
Same things occured for Hyenas.
This was a nice episode. Glad that canids are doing well in Kaimere for the most part.
However, there's two questions related to this episode:
1) If the wolves of Kaimere are more basal than modern wolves, then what happened to the Grey wolf? (Or were those culled by the first children in Qajar?)
2) If panther hounds exist, then does that mean they made it so Lycaons were unable to establish themselves in Kaimere?
Thank you!
1. Grey wolves (arguably timber wolves if you subscribe to the belief that they are different species) hadn't evolved until the interrupted harvest, so only a handful of true wolves even had a chance, and of these, all were killed or taken into the jackal species complex in Qajar. African wolves were harvested, though again there is debate as to their species status on Earth, and they too would have been integrated into Kaimere's jackals, having the most success in the tropical regions.
2. Yes, the few Lycaons taken in the African harvest unfortunately came to a habitat where their niche had steep competition, and they failed to ecologically muscle their way into a niche so went extinct fairly quickly.
Why are all the larger canids hybrids
Canids get above 400 pounds challenge (Impossible) I guess they really truly are strength in numbers.
1. What is the largest panther hound target?
2. Do all of the species featured have skin changers?
3. On the topic of giant mustelids, any planned?
1. Outside of extremes, they don’t target bigger than common pronghorns
2. Nope, skin changers usually can only take on forms of similar mass. There are werewolves and dire jackal in Pakardia, werewolves in the Khalin Islands, and that’s about it for canids.
3. None bigger than the dire badger, a species of Gulo around 80-100 pounds
Thank god, there are some wild canids safe from the damned giant murder-lizards! In all seriousness, great video, as all of them are.
Thank you!!
Glad to see that the hyenas of Kaimere are getting love and not the needless hate and demonization they usually get
I got nothing but love for hyenas. Hope they get a focal episode down the road!
Hey Keenan, just a few more questions:)
First, what would happen if the grey Ridgeback was a peck hunter could he challenge Megafauna?
In a similar vein, would it be possible for common Lions to cross with cave lions, and also act as pack hunter ?
Finally, is there anything like a African painted dog? Other than the spotted dogs? (by the way, I love that personality description lol)
1. There is not enough food in the forest to sustain large groups for most of the year, but they will cooperate to bring down large game if the opportunity presents itself. Mated pairs is the most common form of such behavior, though mostly one stays with the cubs while the other hunts. It would likely not work in the context of the mainland forests, as getting enough meat to sustain a large pack would undoubtedly draw the attention of megaraptorans and terror birds that could easily drive them from a kill, as happens with big cats.
2. Usually cave lions regard true lions as prey, not mates, but if a group were to venture into the more bountiful lowlands as indeed sometimes happens with cave lion brother groups, they have some initial success but invariably draw the attention of larger predators that pick them off and since they can't climb due to their size and lack endurance for a long flight, they are pretty easy prey for large terror birds, cockatrice mobs, and megaraptorans.
3. The panther hound is Kaimere's analogue to painted hounds. Though painted hounds are really interesting animals, I thought giving the niche to a borophagine would be a fun spin on the expectations of what a surviving 'bone-crusher dog' would look and act like.
This turned out great! Canids easily rank into my top 3 favorite mammal clades (others being cats and bears). Keep up the excellent work, man; I can't wait to see what else you got in store.
I do have some questions:
1. Are all descendants of coyotes exclusive to Qajar, or did some individuals or hybrids manage to sneak their way into Arvel?
2. In the episode on Kaishel, you showed that some animals from the known world were introduced. Among those were wolves. Is that still a thing? If so, how are they doing in Kaishel?
3. Did common jackals and/or foxes migrate or were introduced to Kairul? If not, what prevented them? If so, how are they doing?
4. Do canids in Kaimere form inter-species relationships like with wolves and ravens or coyotes and American badgers on Earth?
Thank you so much! Was delighted to get your request!
1. Might have had a few venture north, but pretty quickly they were integrated as temperate species and common jackals do better in the warmer north, so their spread has almost entirely stopped at the wall.
2. They were indeed brought over by the To Katon and Akanuk traders! Wolves and wild dogs are doing extremely well, since most Kaishelan indigenous fauna are slow and quiet. It’s a short term success, as eventually they will be selectively bred into silence, but for now they and caribou are having a population boom.
3. Tropical foxes and jackals have made their way up to Kairul, but they have not found much success there amidst competition with small game hunters up there. That said, being small generalists, they may well find success in the future.
4. It does happen occasionally, especially those in the genus Canis. Foxes are much more independent and the panther hounds aren’t prone to sharing
**pet the (wild) doggo**
One note. If the common hyena is, in fact, a true hyena it would actually be a member of feliformia, as hyena’s are closely related to mongooses and big cats, having evolved convergently with dogs.
Caniformia (dog like carnivores) consists mostly of dogs, wolves, jackals, coyotes, foxes, bears, pinnipeds, and mustelids (ie: badgers)
It wouldn’t be too big of a change to merely label hyenas as feline relatives and acknowledge the mistake, as hyenas are often confused for dogs. Sorry if the correction is annoying.
I thought I had made it clear that they are in the canid niche, not caniform clade. Their inclusion in this episode is just to explain why there aren’t large canids in the majority of the known world, not meaning to imply that they are themselves caniforms. I’ve listed them as feliforms in previous episodes. Guess I could have made that more clear. Sorry for that confusion.
@@TalesofKaimere I understand. I usually watch the episodes the day they come out so there’s usually a week or so lapse between me seeing them. I suppose I may have forgotten that you’d previously mentioned them.
@@SleepDeprived002 All good! Does remind me to be more clear about these things. Hyenas being feliforms isn't something I really think about, but I recognize that not everyone knows that, so me saying things like 'there are no large tropical canids' when I was just talking about a 300 pound hyena could be confusing for those who don't know.
Can bear dogs dig burrows to escape theropods?
Foxes are my fav animals
Another awesome video! Are Tales of Kaimere gonna expand beyond the known world?
Thank you! Yes, the next anthology takes place almost entirely beyond the known world.
It’s a pity that the dire wolf didn’t make it, no worg for the know would.
The common hyena pretty nicely fits that niche. Also Pakardiant wolves are quite a bit larger than dire wolves so the niche is still taken!
Hey Keenan, since the common hyena was harvested during the Miocene, is it descended from percrocutids such as _Dinocrocuta_ , or is it a true hyaenid?
It is not. It is a true hyena and shares a common ancestor with the three 'bone crushers' of today. Since brown and striped split from the spotted around 10 mya, which is when this taxa was harvested, it's not especially close to any, though they retain the basal coat which makes them look quite close to the striped, that is just because they don't have a derived coat. Their skeletal and muscular anatomy along with their behavior, however, is quite derived.
@@TalesofKaimere ahh okay then I get it. I think a more robust build than the old design was what threw me off
Cool to learn about hyena evolution though, being basal to the bone-crushers' split
@@TalesofKaimere were percrocutids ever harvested if they were what happened to them
I would love to learn more about the silver cocktricr
All in good time!
Were short-eared dog ( _Atelocynus_ _microtis_ ) or any of their relatives ever harvested and brought to Kaimere?
Nope! South American dogs had not arrived on the continent when the continent was most recently harvested so they never had a chance.
We'ren't there two kinds of bear dogs? The leaner ones from North America and the robust ones that traveled from Europe to North America. Currently trying to figure out how to increase mammal speed and endurance for predators to complete with dinos. No air sacs so can't turbo charge. Going to need to expand the basics. Big nostrils, big heart , big lungs and better liver.
There were indeed! Lean ones were extinct by the time of harvest so I didn't do too much study on them. While mammals are generally faster and stronger than a dinosaur of the same size, I've not come across any persuasive avenue for a terrestrial mammal predator to get much larger than a ton, and even those are stocky ambush hunters. The Bokodu breaks the rule by being primarily a scavenger and herbivore with infrequent hunts, while the nokutlot mostly hunts marine mammals.
BTW, from my understanding, the leaner bear dogs (daphoenodon) were digitigrades and the robust bear dogs (amphicyon) were plantigrades.
@@ryanchen1819 That is my understanding too.
in nature there are rare cases of hybrids such as tiger/lion, horse/donkey, dog/wolf... in Kaimere are there cases with their species?
Very rarely. Most of these cases are not in nature, but in captivity, and in the wild it is almost always young and inexperienced animals. It does happen on occasion, but wild dogs are somewhat outliers in how readily they hybridize. Where lions and leopards share territory in Kaimere for example, they almost never mate.
tiger/lion, horse/donkey cases only happened in capitivity on Earth, same on Kaimere.
Wild Dogs however are animals that highly hybridize between them in nature.
It's happen, yes, with young and inexperienced animals, but hybridization also happen highly in nature oftently with animals, whatevers their family, with males seeing females as potential mate whatevers their species (because following blindly and strongly their instinct to mate, whatevers with what), and females seeing males of larger closed species as more strong and robust potential mates, and as an effect more valuable mates for their offsprings. Females alays search for the strongest and healthy mates, so they will often go with members of another species if they can.
Animals followings their instincts to mate, members whatevers males or females, experimented or not, will do with whatevers they will find if members of their own species isn't find.
Sometimes, some members of a species will, even fully aware, do with a member of another species. Because as humans, animals can have deviants attractions (for example, an extreme case between a male Kudu named Charles and a female Giraffe named Camelia was fully well recorded, with the Kudu even one time attempting to mate with her, with of course little succes as everyone can imagine).
Hybridization is highly present in nature, more often than we usually think, and take an important place in the genetic diversity of animals.
In nature, most hybrids are reasonably fertiles and often do with a member of one or the other of their mothers species.
But during the evolution of life itself, this event have many time lead to complete new species.
Okw question how far away is kaimere form earth and do the organisms of the Portal comunnicate via electro magnatic Signals (i.e the speed of light)?
I have not gone public with its specific location. For most of its history the portal communicated via the likes of radio signals and other waves that were near-light speed. Now the process is nearly if not entirely instantaneous, and the leading theory is that the First Children introduced a component of quantum entanglement to the data transfer so there is functionally no actual time that needs to pass despite the great distance.
@@TalesofKaimere thanks, and a few recommendations:
turtles(both land and sea) and temnospondyls
How do the dholes and wolves interact with uku bears and wojun and blqck sloths
Generally by running away
@@TalesofKaimere the wolves dholes or sloths and bears
Damn I’m early
As am I
Great video as always:)
I have two questions ; first, so you are saying that the warmth of kimamer ( I apologize for the poor spelling ) are more closely related to jackals in that case are there any true wolves?
Second, I have heard of coyote wolf hybrids Particularly in the north eastern United States(along with some debate of the red wolf) but are you saying that coyotes can cross with dogs and dogs can cross with jackals?
1. Yes. True wolves share a common ancestor that had not evolved yet when the Mosbach ‘wolf’ was harvested, so technically there are no wolves in Kaimere, although the big Canis populations are basically wolves.
2. Yes, coyotes were able to hybridize with dogs and the common jackal in their area
I didn’t realize that most of the modern cannons are not that the similar. Are the offspring of coyote/jackals and dogs viable? And ark foxes able to hybridize? I would assume based on their size they wouldn’t but now I’m not sure.
@@TalesofKaimere almost to space wolves reference lol.
Doggo
Any hesperocyonines get harvested?
If so they do not have descendants in the known world
What's the resource and prey count on kaimere? Because assuming there's enough food there would be multiple predators niche partitioning or even filling the same niche
See morrison formation
mammoth steppe,
modern African savannah. Rip african wild dogs.
Also copy paste: Every day I look at the Kurujaka I'm reminded that the spoons are gone☹️
Please just ONE endangered population of Spinosaurs, I literally don't care if its a god or the size of a basilisk lizard just PLEEEEAAASSSSSE ONE, that's all I ask *sobs uncontrollably*
🙏💔😭
Being a region with very rich soils due to geologically recent volcanic activity, the known world has a highly prolific ecosystem with plenty of big game megafauna and predators that specialize in them. There are indeed many species of large predator, though the robust monarch megaraptorans are the undisputed apex predators.
I regret to inform you that the spinosaurs almost certainly didn't even make it into the Tyrant Dynasty, as the planet underwent an intense million-year period of aridity around 70 million years ago that leveled most of the wetlands. Spinosaurs might do great in modern Kaimere, with its highly humid climate of the past 6 million years (which is why there are so many spinosaur mimic megaraptorans), but spinosaurs themselves are almost certainly gone.
Don't you also have Dire Wolves in Kaimere? I saw a drawing you made of them.
That was just a reconstruction. They didn’t coincide with any stable harvests.
@@TalesofKaimere Oh that makes sense. They probably missed out due to that interrupted Pleistocene harvest you talked about. I have an idea for including them in my own fantasy worldbuilding project which reversed what happened to them on Earth, with this canid outcompeting their smaller relatives.
Just how many creatures have you given the title common so far?
Lol it’s a very common common name, just like it is on Earth
Will you do a vid on the interrupted harvest?
I’ve got one! Should be under “A Harvest Interrupted: Recent American Fauna of the Qajarith Peninsula”
@@TalesofKaimere Thanks, I found it. It appears that I've watched it before, too. Silly me!
@@bengaltiger1667 It's all good! It was mostly focused on the First Children, but there was some information there too.
Hey Keenan, don’t know if you’ll see this, but are there any real world abelisaurids the size of the Rahrak?
Aucasaurus was a bit larger but overall a pretty good analogue
Are the albeiosaurs in the old albeiosaurs of kaimere still canon or the pakaradiant the only one still canon
What's your font,I really like it
Thank you! It’s Luminari, found it on Photoshop and fell in love
so if cheetahs are extinct in kaimere how do the know what it is?
They know about Earth cheetahs
@@TalesofKaimere aaaah
So Pakardian wolf is a big jackal ?
Yes. Sort of. Guess it depends on whose definition of jackal you use. They aren’t especially close to any living canid and that’s the common name Assembly naturalists give them
@@TalesofKaimere ah
You meant cannine and not dog right 🙄
I know why you did because most people don't know what a cannine is
Yes, I used dog in the common name sense for the sake of clarity, same as I used cat for the big cat episode.
@@TalesofKaimere makes sense
All good but, hyenas ain’t canids or dogs at all by that, they belong to feliformia so closer to cats, cool vid tho
Indeed! When I included them, it was intended as them occupying a similar niche and lifestyle, not meaning to imply they were related but I realize I should have clarified that they are feliforms as it's not exactly common knowledge.
SO ! On kaimere, inside the Known World, there at least 12 wild canid species :
4 wolves species, called under the vernacular name of "Jackals" =
- The Southern Islands/Pakardian Wolf (from which originals Kaimeran dogs descend before Earth's dogs were brought on Kaimere during the Mercantil Age that lead to the diversity we see here. He's also complete omnivorous, thus the others are less of this diet).
- the Mainland/Arvelith Wolf (who live mostly in the Highland of Arvel)
- The Common Jackal, Canis kaimeriensis (a distinct apart specie of wolf that is reconized to descend from the Hybridation between mainly the Golden Jackal, Canis aureus, this latter not a jackal but a true wolf of Canis genus, and the African Wolf, Canis lupaster. But others species are also implicated in his genetics).
- And the Coyote (same specie as on Aarth, Canis latran, being also a wolf despite the popular believes).
Note : the Coyote is the only true MODERN wolf of Kaimere, while the others "Jackals" aren't modern species since descending from species that weren't modern ones, even if these latter have on Earth lead to the extant modern species.
They are ARCHAIC wolves instead.
The Kaimeran/Common Jackal isn't include as a Modern Wolf, because even if he have genes from two modern species, a good part of his genetic must come from archaic species, hence why is include with the others species than with the Coyote.
2 Dholes species =
- the Dire Jackal (only, commonly, on Pakardia, on the Highland of the island, meaning almost all the island itself)
- and the Bear Dog (also called Mainland Dhole)
4 foxes species =
- the Common Fox (a close relative to the famous Red Fox).
- the Garden Fox
- the Mountain/Ni'Khar Fox
- and the Pakardian Fox
1 species from the Borophaginae sub-familly of the Canidae family =
- The Panther Dog (one single specie from the Known World who came from the Eastern Continent, being a descendant of the Oligocene Legacy).
However, several others species (4 species at least and more) exist on the Eastern Continent Kairul.
And 1 species of unknown affinities but from a lineage from Kairul :
- The Etekan (previousely mistaken to be a fox species)
Of course, all of that only count for inside the Known World region. others species of canids are diverse and nuermous in the realms beyond his borders, in the more stable regions of the planet.
12 species, I think you forgot the Etekan
@@Andrey.Ivanov Yeah, you right !
Sorry, I will correct this. Thank.
What if the raccoon dogs or maned wolves were harvested and were put on the houzze Parker how would they do
@@rylanbrewer3320 Maned wolf will likely thrive as a small games specialist, like rodents, multituberculates, ground bird and reptiles.
Avoiding most competition with the others canids and carnivores in the Prairie.
Raccoon dogs would have been successfull on the Highland of Arvel if there wasn't small omnivores dinosaurs and marsupials.
They were harvested but don't managed to established on Kaimere.
@@dudotolivier6363what if culepeo was introduced to kaiemre or any of the South American canines to nikhar avrel kairul pakardia or qajar how well would they do
Sorry bro, I'm not about to hate, but hyenas are not canines!!! 💀💀💀😊
Lol lot of folks misunderstood what I said. I expect I operated too much on the assumption that hyenas aren't caniforms, and should have been more explicit. It's common knowledge in my head, but I appreciate that most people don't, and I don't want my oversight to contribute to misinformation.
"The pack hunting carnivore niche occupied by wolves of Earth is held in the bone-crushing jaws of the common hyena."
In this episode I'm comparing them to the *niche* of canines like wolves and wild dogs. They're long-legged cursorial pursuit predators, not bulky ambush hunters like most feliforms. Hyenas generally dominate the caniform niche. Nowhere did I state they were caniforms, but considering I've gotten this comment many times, I clearly should have been more clear: hyenas are analogous to large canines, not homologous.
Hyena is in video about wild dog? Instant dislike (Joking)
Haha valid. Beardogs didn’t really belong here either but I went with the classifications used by early Kaimeran and Assebly naturalists. It was only fairly recently that we knew hyenas weren’t a type of wild dog, after all!
@@TalesofKaimere Which is understandable.