Yup. Yet these most popular and decorated women hate on her not realizing that without the men's money, none of them would even have a job playing basketball here in the US, yet the one person who would help turn that around they openly trash her.....typical.
Not exactly. They are a subsidiary of NBA and the NBA has been absorbing their yearly business "losses" since it's inception, yes. The WNBA took a $75 million dollar "infusion of capital" to boost the overall brand of the WNBA 2 years ago and the way to "pay it back" is from TV dollars that they can try to get only because you have more interest due to CC ironically. No one wants to see Aja, Breanna, Phee, etc. all around the World, but people want to see a player in CC who is literally the closest thing to a male star in Steph along with that "it" factor....yet these same "stars" hate her for dumb reasons which means they are forever going to be a product of the men's money and these women are so ignorant and arrogant they don't see it and the WNBA could cease to exist based on that fact.
CC is moving the needle in the right direction for increased player pay in the WNBA. Dijonai Carrington and Chennedy Carter are moving the needle in the wrong direction. That they don't seem to get this doesn't bode well for the league.
The economics just don't work at that income level. The main reason for the ownership issue is because the league has been on life support for 20+years.
Except that due to equity (not equality) the WNBA women should be paid on average as much as the NBA players are paid and that money to pay them should come from the NBA men and/or government taxpayers. [I said according to equity, so don't forget that]
Should be called career suicide! Many of the thug players and the past so called superstars of the league have already pretty much canceled themselves!
There is more to being a professional basketball player than knowing how to play basketball. A PRO knows sportsmanship, teamwork, and has been properly trained on how to speak to the media. A PRO player understands what a rivalry is in regards to hyping up fans and generating excitement. I rivalry isn't about hate or being thuggish. It's all about the polished presentation to the customers (fans). Basketball is just one facet of a PRO player. This season has demonstrated that the majority of the current talent in the WNBA is not at the PRO level.
If you had Caitlin Paige juju flaugee all leading uptempo fast break basketball than you would have better ratings for all teams. No one is going to watch roller derby half court bully ball. It’s boring
I don’t mind the physical play but it’s the fact that it’s increased to 20 instead of a 8. I’m not saying remove it entirely but have a balance of playstyles
The WNBA (executives, coaches, players) does numerous things that actively works against increased viewership and attendence. It has done its best to not capitalize on the attention Clark has brought with the exception of scheduling the Fever's first 11 games in a 20 day span. The bottom line is the players can't get higher salaries if the league doesn't have the money. Asking the NBA and team owners to pony up more money is not the solution either. Maybe some of the players need to take an economics course along with improving their skills and learning how to act professionally.
Young man, I’m in my 60s I remember all the talk up to this league becoming a reality and then once it started the absolute arrogance of some of the players and women in general when they talked about the league. Even back then, they thought they should be able to compete with a completely different entity called the NBA… but they seem to forget it also had its struggles and several other leagues came and went….. This league has always been in its own way either with it’s overrated opinion on women’s liberation and equality, and then they spiral into all pet projects of the liberals….. The truth is most of the players certainly couldn’t beat high school players boys.
@@mohawkinyou’re not wrong at all and I’m willing to go on that limb with you. A good JV team would most definitely beat most WNBA teams for sure if not all of them. I still remember when a 15U boys soccer team beat the US women’s National team 5-0.
Lmfao.....go ahead does anyone think they will be missed? No one cares. Caitlin won't care she does not need the pittance they pay her and she can play anywhere in the world she wants and be paid more.
Facts. The WNBPA is expecting smart RUclipsrs like you and social media to educate WNBA players because the player's association has done such a piss poor job of doing what they got paid to do during the past 20 years.
I'm new to this, so does a lockout mean the players might go on strike, or is a lockout something the WNBA admin does to the teams ??? Since I just started watching this year, at first I thought it wasn't right that the WNBA players weren't paid like the NBA players. But after watching this season, the NBA games are on a whole other level from the WNBA. For better or worse the NBA games bring in a ton of revenue that the WNBA just doesn't match. I agree with you Izzy, that the WNBA teams need to be getting many more sold out games beyond what CC is bringing to the table.
It's because you can't play basketball, they would have to charge the 1500 ppl that watch your home games $800 a ticket... as long g as half of the game is just missed shot after missed shot, nobody is gonna pay for that, they could see better ball at the high-school gym.
The nba probably didn't bleed money at year 25 like the wnba, and I doubt any of them got high salaries even if the money calculations is lower in that generation. Also note, the wnba do not play 82 games, or has that many teams like NBA. They get paid pretty well for a few months per year? Like 50 to 200k for 3 months of work? Just get a regular job outside of those 3 months. Also who are they going to leverage? Lock out what? People only just started to watch their game because of CC. Lock out now, and everyone will just say okay, guess time to let go of WNBA for good or something.
Dude, these r women we r talking about. Is all about me me me me, no foresight. They cant see or understand the future. Watch them bitch about why a player is making more millions than them even though they r also making millions.
There is one particular gender that has a very difficult time looking down the road into the future. They think they are irreplaceable. But one gender knows who designs, builds, and maintains almost everything you see. We can make our own sandwich.
Fully agree with what the panel are saying but I think the players should see some of the new $3bn deal but it needs incentives and targets for the players to bring it every week.
Funny how it is a coincident that these "players" feel it is the right time and in position to ask for more money when the viewership attendance blew up this season from Clark. But refuse to admit it was because of Clark. Try this crap without Clark and see how bold you are in asking for more money. Pathetic players.
These ladies doing a lockout would mean the NBA wouldn’t lose money every year paying for their league Smart move ladies. Causing your own downfall 😂😂😂
The quality of officiating, play and coaching would have to go up, way up. That would be a draw for both sports fans and broadcasting channels. Also what would help a lot is the WNBA has to drop its social justice agenda and to truly be DEI, must accept without hostility straights, whites, and all kinds of religions and politics. It's about basketball, not about personal politics.
This is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time. Hope they shut the lights off when they leave. Can't wait to see Carrington at the drive thru 😂😂😂
Fundamentals are terrible. Players need to play ball without all the roller derby/injury moves. People can respect the Lynx and how they play. They aren’t winning by injuring someone. Suns need a rehaul. The refs are another problem. Lots of parents that have daughters don’t want to see that kind of play.
I used to watch MLB, went on strike over money. Bye bye MLB. NHL went on strike over money, adios. I used to get season tickets to the Cowboys. I have watched the NFL since 1972. Then I heard 13 million a year is akin to slavery. Well i didn't want to contribute to slavery so I quit them. I watched college stuff, until they went all SJW. I can go back to the quiet sports where no one talks money or social reform like archery, shooting, rowing and golf.
I agree with you that they need time for them to grow and earn a million dollars but I think two decades is too much. You factor in that we live in a digital era and businesses grow way (or fall) way faster. So If they do the right moves (which they are not doing at this moment but lets see) I can see max contract players earning a million dollar salary in 5 years
It easy.. Like rhonda Rousey UFC women said.. Bring more fan and it will bring money.. Call fan racist and arrogant make fans run away and don't want wasted money... Simple
2 decades??? Player please!!! hahaha If they get their act together, that could be done in LESS than 2 years. But if they continue with the bad energy and refuse to clean up the league, then it will NEVER happen. They simply need to clean their house, and things will turn around immediately.
There was a whole heap of talk in the beginning of the season with the Caitlin Clark 'effect', but because the petty jealousy invited more misery because most players couldn't focus on their own teams. But now there is a talk of a lockout, it's def. not a good look. I can see why they call it a 'welfare' league. But, this is the result when your league is an activist and agenda-based entity. But go ahead, keep asking for these ridiculous wages, when your work doesn't match the value. I swear, the W doesn't know whether it's coming or going. OH well, November's around the corner, time for NCAA basketball.
I remember trying to watch in the 70's but just couldn't because it just wasn't a game until the last 3 minute Then they quit changeing points and played some k of basketball. My dad always said that we will just find the games that are at the end of the game to see who won
There's one thing not mentioned here that really inhibits the WNBA. Besides the NBA owning 44%. There is another consortium that owns another 24%. They sold off that part of the league for 75 million dollars. Even with a new TV deal in 2026 and higher viewership/attendance they won't be able to get a big enough piece of the pie. You're right that there are more viewers and attendees at Clark's games. However there is still an uptick in viewership overall.
I think $150k is probably a good salary for a part-time job. But what they could do is increase the revenue shares. Everyone needs to learn from the MLB strike in 1994. A lot of people never watched America's Pastime again.
Even CC salary is not that bad she only works for 4 months and makes $60,000 after taxes probab.y a good $45,000 divide that by a year it's not that bad because she still haves her endorsements
This is a league no one really cared about for 27 years and they want to make salaries commiserate to the NBA which has been around for 70 years. They're highest Paid players make around 200k in 1980 Larry bird made 180k. aside from the fact that Bird was more interesting to watch then Angel Reese shooting a ball over the backboard from 2ft away , what are these women complaining about? I hope they strike no one would support them or be devastated if they aren't around
Quick math. 12 teams 10 players x half million avg salary = 60 million. 50/50 split with owners means the league would need to eat 120 million. The league loses money still.
I don’t know what that guy is talking about but he doesn’t understand economics.There wont be a lock out & those million dollar salaries are coming regardless if they want to pay them or not because they are going to have to pay CC when her rookie deal is over in two years. And she’s worth way more than damn million dollars 😂😂 it’s a new day those guys are living in the past. CC is easily generating over 50 million in game ticket sales revenu home & away. Look at a simple example game ticket is $100 per ticket which we know in reality is way less for a CC game. Attendance 17,000 x $100= 1.7 million. Thats 34 million + for 20 games at Gainbridge & it doesn’t include any merchandise & concessions sales. I don’t even need to show the new TV money which will quadruple the current deal once the final contracts are negotiated with ION & CBS. Even with just one superstar CC the league is making money now especially the Fever. I project they have made over a 40 million in revenue this year. So, you think they are only going to pay CC 1 million? 😂 The other teams will make 2 million + or 1.5 million for 2 Fever games per year. So Cc alone is enough for now but they need more players to attract mo The fans because they have on redundancy if CC gets hurt. I don’t know how they are going word the new CBA but they are going to have to word it so they can pay CC a multi million dollar deal even if they don’t want to pay the others. CC is a billion dollar sales generating athlete & they are going to have to pay her real worth which in reality is more the NBA players salary because of the revenue she’s generating for the League ii’s astonishing for only 1 player. And they hate her 🤷♂️😂
Let them walk while CC sits back and laughs at them!!!!! JuJu Watkins making more than the WNBA players and she isn't even in the league I bet they don't say sh*t about that!!!!
Regarding player salaries in the NBA versus salaries in the WNBA: You women want to be paid like them? You need to play like them. Make your bunnies (layups). Make your gimmes (free throws). Nail your passes. Make us want to watch. Spend less time fussing with your hair and more time delivering on the court.
I knew a strike was coming but I thought it was going to be the racist Wilson refusing to play in the all-star game because she's too "terrified "of Indiana and their fans
50 mill in losses? Where's that money going, rent, executives? It's not going to the players. If tv numbers are up, renegotiate. The nba makes all it's money from tv deals.
"The league: a clear example of how activism can ruin even the simplest sport. Jealousy, racism and political agendas: the perfect recipe for failure. Who wants to watch women's basketball when there is so much social injustice to denounce? Brands invest , but the public prefers to stay at home watching TikTok. And when a savior appears, the others attack her with the same ferocity as a pack of hyenas. The league, a business as profitable as an iceberg: on the verge of sinking for decades. And the worst thing is that the same players celebrate their own shipwreck!"
I think... IF the highest paid player in wnba is earning 300K per year, for me the most logical increase they can get is 50% of it. Meaning is from 300k it will be 450k. And if clark is earning 65-75K new rookie contract will be 100-115k.. and for me that's fair enough.. I mean, only Clark has the right to have higher contract since she can return the investment and make revenue.
They are bringing to the WNVA the exact same mentality that they have when it comes to dating... with the SAME result - the inability to attract customers to buy what they are selling.
The WBA has so many problems beyond lack of fundamentals. They have horrible officiating that makes it seem like games are fixed to favor certain teams. Apparently there is rampant racism in the stands that is somehow being missed by audio & video recording devices. Players are being stalked & receiving death threats & this is apparently being swept under the rug because it's not being reported to law enforcement
Instead of adding more teams to the league the WNBA needs either contraction or to relegate teams to a 2nd division like they do in professional soccer all over the world. Adding new teams only waters down the talent pool even more
I don't know why they are calling it a lockout. The players are the ones looking for more money. A lockout would be if the owners were asking for concessions. Wouldn't it?
So let me understand. The players want more money, as in 5x-8x more. They have a Golden Goose in Caitlin Clark that could pump millions of dollars into the league including towards salaries. So they could either allow Clark to be the face of the league and draw in viewers in numbers the league could only dream of, or shun her and perform a lock out... The first solution is guaranteed money in the millions and the other solution could possibly end with players losing money.
27 years x 50,000,000 = 1,350,000,000 that the NBA has paid into the WNBA. (I am guessing that they paid this amount every year as I don't know the exact number of every single year.) Now I am sure the NBA didn't just GIVE them the money and not expect it to be paid back (I am sure over a period of time) so can the WNBA just pay that back in one lump sum? Every one takes a cut from the money you make and by the time it gets down to paying the players there isn't much left to divide up amongst them hence the low salaries. It won't be good if they go through with this lockout expecting more money because it will fold the league faster than a lawn chair. One good or eve great year isn't going to balance the books when it comes to something that has been loosing money for decades it needs time to get the red back to black ink and it needs much more money to accomplish that. There are teams that still only play in 10,000 seat arenas and do not sell them out, that isn't enough to pay players millions. With CC in the league and what it is doing is a very good start, but it's only a start. One thing I don't think these women understand is you need star power to propel your league and it needs to happen over a long period of time to get that type of money, CC has this league on a great trajectory but she can't do it alone. The NBA has had to do the same exact thing in the 70's it was almost folded because NOBODY was watching it and games were on tape delay to play AFTER regular programing late at night. Bring in two amazing players from college (Bird and Johnson) and you brought the fans with them that launched the league in a profitable direction but it still took time to get people making millions of dollars it wasn't just after the first year. Magic's rookie salary was 460,000 per year while Bird was 650,000 per year. The league salary in 1979 when both them joined was 173,500 average and that was after 30 years since the beginning of the league, it takes time to build something like this. The NBA generated 10.58 billion last year with 30 teams and playing 82 games while the WNBA does about 200 million with 12 teams playing 40 games, the numbers for trying to demand million dollar salaries isn't there and won't be for a while and that is ONLY if they get more star power in the league to drive up revenue.
Aja Wilson needs to accept the fact that she's the best player in a Niche sport that is only in business because it's being subsidized by the NBA. I heard someone report that her teams total salary is $1.5 million & she want a raise that will pay her $1 million? Good luck with that
Some of the WNBA players need to educate themselves on why the money they want is not available. It would be nice to make more but that’s not happy or a very long time.
The NBA is player driven league and the W only has one megastar. Best hope for now is for players to aim for endorsements to increase their income. Lockout and the league won’t recover.
Pay them all what they deserve, but only based on their direct and undeniable impact on the league. CC gets a multi-million $$$ contract, and many of them get pay cuts for all of the damage they have done.
You wanted mre money, you gotta sto hating on the goose that lays your golden egg! Grw the league first before demanding money the league doesn't have yet! It takes time and a lot of work and you have to help each other out to help CC bring in more money!
If they keep playing with the type of violence we just seen on CC the league will fold.
I used to think they were just boring and I was indifferent. After the way they treated CC, now I actively dislike them.
The only reason they were selling out arenas was because of Catlin Clark.
Yup. Yet these most popular and decorated women hate on her not realizing that without the men's money, none of them would even have a job playing basketball here in the US, yet the one person who would help turn that around they openly trash her.....typical.
the elephant in the room that they evidently can't see and don't want
And they are hating on CC and giving her credit
Reese the reason most know Clark
They owe the NBA 100s of millions for them propping them up for decades........
Not exactly. They are a subsidiary of NBA and the NBA has been absorbing their yearly business "losses" since it's inception, yes. The WNBA took a $75 million dollar "infusion of capital" to boost the overall brand of the WNBA 2 years ago and the way to "pay it back" is from TV dollars that they can try to get only because you have more interest due to CC ironically. No one wants to see Aja, Breanna, Phee, etc. all around the World, but people want to see a player in CC who is literally the closest thing to a male star in Steph along with that "it" factor....yet these same "stars" hate her for dumb reasons which means they are forever going to be a product of the men's money and these women are so ignorant and arrogant they don't see it and the WNBA could cease to exist based on that fact.
They have never been profitable
That's not how business works.
Over $300 million dollars in 27 years I believe
@@oncebefore3671, so the fools are telling the NBA that they want to save them money.
CC is moving the needle in the right direction for increased player pay in the WNBA. Dijonai Carrington and Chennedy Carter are moving the needle in the wrong direction. That they don't seem to get this doesn't bode well for the league.
FACTS!!!!!!!!! 😂👍🏻
I dare these girls to go on strike. They’ll find out they’re not as important as they think they are.
They think they're worth millions because for the first time they had a couple of thousands watching,they aren't worth anything
They’ll just say it’s racism lol
It’s because they don’t understand why CC is making real money. She’s a real professional
This will all boil down to Clark's decision tbh. She's the only one having better viewership.
Replace them with the 7 dwarfs...
At least they can make layups 😂
They actually owe the NBA money for decades of being in debt. A lockout is hilarious 😂
Make it happen 😂😂😂
Sad part is no one will miss them
😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 they will doom their League before they have a chance to improve it...
The economics just don't work at that income level. The main reason for the ownership issue is because the league has been on life support for 20+years.
Except that due to equity (not equality) the WNBA women should be paid on average as much as the NBA players are paid and that money to pay them should come from the NBA men and/or government taxpayers.
[I said according to equity, so don't forget that]
@@independentaquaman7424 That doesn't make any sense.... ZERO
Word salad...
@@violoncelo1000 I was trying to figure out why you blatantly lied about me so I checked your profile. It's a troll account. So I've now muted you.
Shouldn’t be called a lockout. Should be called bankruptcy and layoffs. 😂😅
Should be called career suicide! Many of the thug players and the past so called superstars of the league have already pretty much canceled themselves!
There is more to being a professional basketball player than knowing how to play basketball. A PRO knows sportsmanship, teamwork, and has been properly trained on how to speak to the media. A PRO player understands what a rivalry is in regards to hyping up fans and generating excitement. I rivalry isn't about hate or being thuggish. It's all about the polished presentation to the customers (fans). Basketball is just one facet of a PRO player. This season has demonstrated that the majority of the current talent in the WNBA is not at the PRO level.
If you had Caitlin Paige juju flaugee all leading uptempo fast break basketball than you would have better ratings for all teams. No one is going to watch roller derby half court bully ball. It’s boring
best description ive ever seen.
Thats no going to TRUMP the toxicity, drama, racism, and entitled behavior thats been the reason its never made a profit!
@@a1612 it’s dibiological how is severely underrated this comment is lmao😂😂
Best comment about the WNBA
I don’t mind the physical play but it’s the fact that it’s increased to 20 instead of a 8. I’m not saying remove it entirely but have a balance of playstyles
The WNBA (executives, coaches, players) does numerous things that actively works against increased viewership and attendence. It has done its best to not capitalize on the attention Clark has brought with the exception of scheduling the Fever's first 11 games in a 20 day span. The bottom line is the players can't get higher salaries if the league doesn't have the money. Asking the NBA and team owners to pony up more money is not the solution either. Maybe some of the players need to take an economics course along with improving their skills and learning how to act professionally.
Lock out what??? The falling playoff numbers shows fans are already in a lock out!!!
The NBA should call in their debt. Spoiled little brats...
Young man, I’m in my 60s I remember all the talk up to this league becoming a reality and then once it started the absolute arrogance of some of the players and women in general when they talked about the league. Even back then, they thought they should be able to compete with a completely different entity called the NBA… but they seem to forget it also had its struggles and several other leagues came and went….. This league has always been in its own way either with it’s overrated opinion on women’s liberation and equality, and then they spiral into all pet projects of the liberals….. The truth is most of the players certainly couldn’t beat high school players boys.
I’m willing to go out on a limb and say a W team would be beaten by a good JV team…
@@mohawkinyou’re not wrong at all and I’m willing to go on that limb with you. A good JV team would most definitely beat most WNBA teams for sure if not all of them. I still remember when a 15U boys soccer team beat the US women’s National team 5-0.
@@matthewlewis5198 Wasn't that with Arapahoe or whatever her name was?
@@bobbys4327 yeah it was lol
Wnba would struggle just to break a press let alone get a clean shot off
Economics is based on supply and demand 😂
Bolsheviks dont understand economics...just sayin ....
USWNT got equal pay, so no. It's also moved by politics and the actors playing in politics and influencing the decisions...
I’m good. Actually I thought they started the lockout after CC lost. Didn’t know they were still playing 🤣
Employees leaving the job site is called a walk off/strike. A lockout is when the employees show up for work and the doors are locked…
Hahahaa
Off to Europe/Asian we go!
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@@FUBAR1986 Got it 😂
Lmfao.....go ahead does anyone think they will be missed? No one cares. Caitlin won't care she does not need the pittance they pay her and she can play anywhere in the world she wants and be paid more.
CC haves other skills besides basketball like golf and other sports
Yes I hear she was an amazing Baseball player too......but it seems basketball is her true love.....
A lockout needs to happen! These women could use a wakeup call...
Exactly
Lockout needs to happen? They losing money with wnba. Pay more money to lose more money? Lol
If anything CC and others who are getting hit should strike against refs,wnba,and the thugs who constantly hit her
And it only a lockout if someone notices....
If they have a lockout.. CC taking her show on the road
Yeah sure 😂
Sold out arenas? Only the ones that Caitlin Clark is playing in! By that measuring stick, CC should be the only one with a million+ salary!
Unless they find another 50 Caitlin Clarks I kinda doubt they will ever be worth a mill each.
Only the owners can lock out. The players can only go on strike.
I want Aliyah Boston to have commas also. HOWEVER, the popularity isn't there yet.
Aliyah Boston is a absolut fine person and if all person would be like her and would push the league, then ok. But to many ppl hate CC and destroy it.
Boston needs to quit. No wonder she's so lazy.
@@sandwiches-o3f Boston is a great player and her character is fine
@@ezechel Apparently not. She's delusional and greedy and dishonest.
@@sandwiches-o3frelax.
Facts. The WNBPA is expecting smart RUclipsrs like you and social media to educate WNBA players because the player's association has done such a piss poor job of doing what they got paid to do during the past 20 years.
As always you get it so right. Keep up the great content, and I'll keep watching. Big Fan!
22 Rules!🤜🤛
They’re ball players, they don’t understand economics
Eyelashes had a 1.6 in college!😅😅😅
What are you going to lock out empty seats Caitlin will fill any seat there is😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤ that's funny walk out lockout give me a break we don't care
I'm new to this, so does a lockout mean the players might go on strike, or is a lockout something the WNBA admin does to the teams ??? Since I just started watching this year, at first I thought it wasn't right that the WNBA players weren't paid like the NBA players. But after watching this season, the NBA games are on a whole other level from the WNBA. For better or worse the NBA games bring in a ton of revenue that the WNBA just doesn't match. I agree with you Izzy, that the WNBA teams need to be getting many more sold out games beyond what CC is bringing to the table.
It's because you can't play basketball, they would have to charge the 1500 ppl that watch your home games $800 a ticket... as long g as half of the game is just missed shot after missed shot, nobody is gonna pay for that, they could see better ball at the high-school gym.
The nba probably didn't bleed money at year 25 like the wnba, and I doubt any of them got high salaries even if the money calculations is lower in that generation. Also note, the wnba do not play 82 games, or has that many teams like NBA. They get paid pretty well for a few months per year? Like 50 to 200k for 3 months of work? Just get a regular job outside of those 3 months. Also who are they going to leverage? Lock out what? People only just started to watch their game because of CC. Lock out now, and everyone will just say okay, guess time to let go of WNBA for good or something.
Dude, these r women we r talking about. Is all about me me me me, no foresight. They cant see or understand the future. Watch them bitch about why a player is making more millions than them even though they r also making millions.
There is one particular gender that has a very difficult time looking down the road into the future. They think they are irreplaceable. But one gender knows who designs, builds, and maintains almost everything you see. We can make our own sandwich.
Fully agree with what the panel are saying but I think the players should see some of the new $3bn deal but it needs incentives and targets for the players to bring it every week.
So the players are threatening not to lose $50 million next year?
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If the last two years of women's NCAA players establish a league, it'll almost most likely have more support and viewership than the current WNBA.
If they want more money they should maybe quit airballing layups…make the play a bit more watchable
Funny how it is a coincident that these "players" feel it is the right time and in position to ask for more money when the viewership attendance blew up this season from Clark. But refuse to admit it was because of Clark. Try this crap without Clark and see how bold you are in asking for more money. Pathetic players.
The WNBA is a bad soap opera. Oh wait, all soap operas are bad. I guess the WNBA is even worse.
These ladies doing a lockout would mean the NBA wouldn’t lose money every year paying for their league
Smart move ladies. Causing your own downfall 😂😂😂
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They do not deserve the same pay as the NBA. Their games are not nearly on the same path / level.
You get paid what you bring in. W has never made a profit.
@@Ndfourlife Never EVER made a profit! Since DAY 1!
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First sight of money all of the sudden they wanna get LeBron money lol
The quality of officiating, play and coaching would have to go up, way up. That would be a draw for both sports fans and broadcasting channels. Also what would help a lot is the WNBA has to drop its social justice agenda and to truly be DEI, must accept without hostility straights, whites, and all kinds of religions and politics. It's about basketball, not about personal politics.
This is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time. Hope they shut the lights off when they leave. Can't wait to see Carrington at the drive thru 😂😂😂
May through September is a great time of the year with plenty to do.
Fundamentals are terrible. Players need to play ball without all the roller derby/injury moves. People can respect the Lynx and how they play. They aren’t winning by injuring someone. Suns need a rehaul. The refs are another problem. Lots of parents that have daughters don’t want to see that kind of play.
Skill sets need to be close to par (golf term intended) with CC. Like ability needs to be close to CC.
I used to watch MLB, went on strike over money. Bye bye MLB.
NHL went on strike over money, adios.
I used to get season tickets to the Cowboys. I have watched the NFL since 1972. Then I heard 13 million a year is akin to slavery. Well i didn't want to contribute to slavery so I quit them.
I watched college stuff, until they went all SJW.
I can go back to the quiet sports where no one talks money or social reform like archery, shooting, rowing and golf.
I agree with you that they need time for them to grow and earn a million dollars but I think two decades is too much. You factor in that we live in a digital era and businesses grow way (or fall) way faster. So If they do the right moves (which they are not doing at this moment but lets see) I can see max contract players earning a million dollar salary in 5 years
My butt's been wiped...
Come on man 😮
It easy.. Like rhonda Rousey UFC women said.. Bring more fan and it will bring money.. Call fan racist and arrogant make fans run away and don't want wasted money... Simple
The WNBA players not all are mad and jealous every since Catlin Clark came into the league. That what it is all about.
2 decades??? Player please!!! hahaha If they get their act together, that could be done in LESS than 2 years. But if they continue with the bad energy and refuse to clean up the league, then it will NEVER happen. They simply need to clean their house, and things will turn around immediately.
If delusion was a sports league.
There was a whole heap of talk in the beginning of the season with the Caitlin Clark 'effect', but because the petty jealousy invited more misery because most players couldn't focus on their own teams. But now there is a talk of a lockout, it's def. not a good look. I can see why they call it a 'welfare' league. But, this is the result when your league is an activist and agenda-based entity. But go ahead, keep asking for these ridiculous wages, when your work doesn't match the value. I swear, the W doesn't know whether it's coming or going. OH well, November's around the corner, time for NCAA basketball.
really? is this so hard to understand the current situation?? they are really hopeless
I remember trying to watch in the 70's but just couldn't because it just wasn't a game until the last 3 minute
Then they quit changeing points and played some k of basketball.
My dad always said that we will just find the games that are at the end of the game to see who won
There's one thing not mentioned here that really inhibits the WNBA. Besides the NBA owning 44%. There is another consortium that owns another 24%. They sold off that part of the league for 75 million dollars. Even with a new TV deal in 2026 and higher viewership/attendance they won't be able to get a big enough piece of the pie. You're right that there are more viewers and attendees at Clark's games. However there is still an uptick in viewership overall.
I think $150k is probably a good salary for a part-time job. But what they could do is increase the revenue shares. Everyone needs to learn from the MLB strike in 1994. A lot of people never watched America's Pastime again.
Even CC salary is not that bad she only works for 4 months and makes $60,000 after taxes probab.y a good $45,000 divide that by a year it's not that bad because she still haves her endorsements
Player responsibility 101- dont chase fans away!!!
I hope they go through with it.
This is a league no one really cared about for 27 years and they want to make salaries commiserate to the NBA which has been around for 70 years. They're highest Paid players make around 200k in 1980 Larry bird made 180k. aside from the fact that Bird was more interesting to watch then Angel Reese shooting a ball over the backboard from 2ft away , what are these women complaining about? I hope they strike no one would support them or be devastated if they aren't around
Quick math. 12 teams 10 players x half million avg salary = 60 million. 50/50 split with owners means the league would need to eat 120 million. The league loses money still.
I don’t know what that guy is talking about but he doesn’t understand economics.There wont be a lock out & those million dollar salaries are coming regardless if they want to pay them or not because they are going to have to pay CC when her rookie deal is over in two years. And she’s worth way more than damn million dollars 😂😂 it’s a new day those guys are living in the past.
CC is easily generating over 50 million in game ticket sales revenu home & away. Look at a simple example game ticket is $100 per ticket which we know in reality is way less for a CC game. Attendance 17,000 x $100= 1.7 million. Thats 34 million + for 20 games at Gainbridge & it doesn’t include any merchandise & concessions sales.
I don’t even need to show the new TV money which will quadruple the current deal once the final contracts are negotiated with ION & CBS.
Even with just one superstar CC the league is making money now especially the Fever. I project they have made over a 40 million in revenue this year. So, you think they are only going to pay CC 1 million? 😂
The other teams will make 2 million + or 1.5 million for 2 Fever games per year. So Cc alone is enough for now but they need more players to attract mo The fans because they have on redundancy if CC gets hurt.
I don’t know how they are going word the new CBA but they are going to have to word it so they can pay CC a multi million dollar deal even if they don’t want to pay the others.
CC is a billion dollar sales generating athlete & they are going to have to pay her real worth which in reality is more the NBA players salary because of the revenue she’s generating for the League ii’s astonishing for only 1 player. And they hate her 🤷♂️😂
Let them walk while CC sits back and laughs at them!!!!! JuJu Watkins making more than the WNBA players and she isn't even in the league I bet they don't say sh*t about that!!!!
They have to love the fans, their futures and presently their meal tickets !
Good!! let them Strike Out CC can start her own Teams, WATCH THEM COME U All hear Me?? Lol 😂🙏 ❤ 👍🏻
Regarding player salaries in the NBA versus salaries in the WNBA: You women want to be paid like them? You need to play like them. Make your bunnies (layups). Make your gimmes (free throws). Nail your passes. Make us want to watch. Spend less time fussing with your hair and more time delivering on the court.
I knew a strike was coming but I thought it was going to be the racist Wilson refusing to play in the all-star game because she's too "terrified "of Indiana and their fans
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 they are so full of themselves! Nobody cares if they have a lockout!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The WNBA right now is 1970s NBA and CC is their Magic - but they are resisting change.
50 mill in losses? Where's that money going, rent, executives? It's not going to the players. If tv numbers are up, renegotiate. The nba makes all it's money from tv deals.
If the WNBA players stage a lockout, there's one phrase they'd better practice:
'You want fries with that?'
"The league: a clear example of how activism can ruin even the simplest sport. Jealousy, racism and political agendas: the perfect recipe for failure. Who wants to watch women's basketball when there is so much social injustice to denounce? Brands invest , but the public prefers to stay at home watching TikTok. And when a savior appears, the others attack her with the same ferocity as a pack of hyenas. The league, a business as profitable as an iceberg: on the verge of sinking for decades. And the worst thing is that the same players celebrate their own shipwreck!"
I think... IF the highest paid player in wnba is earning 300K per year, for me the most logical increase they can get is 50% of it. Meaning is from 300k it will be 450k. And if clark is earning 65-75K new rookie contract will be 100-115k.. and for me that's fair enough..
I mean, only Clark has the right to have higher contract since she can return the investment and make revenue.
They are bringing to the WNVA the exact same mentality that they have when it comes to dating... with the SAME result - the inability to attract customers to buy what they are selling.
The WBA has so many problems beyond lack of fundamentals. They have horrible officiating that makes it seem like games are fixed to favor certain teams. Apparently there is rampant racism in the stands that is somehow being missed by audio & video recording devices. Players are being stalked & receiving death threats & this is apparently being swept under the rug because it's not being reported to law enforcement
Instead of adding more teams to the league the WNBA needs either contraction or to relegate teams to a 2nd division like they do in professional soccer all over the world. Adding new teams only waters down the talent pool even more
I don't know why they are calling it a lockout. The players are the ones looking for more money. A lockout would be if the owners were asking for concessions. Wouldn't it?
Thats hilarious. The only reason those women even get paid at all is because they get paid by the NBA.
If the NBA continues to bail them out then they deserve what they get
So let me understand. The players want more money, as in 5x-8x more. They have a Golden Goose in Caitlin Clark that could pump millions of dollars into the league including towards salaries. So they could either allow Clark to be the face of the league and draw in viewers in numbers the league could only dream of, or shun her and perform a lock out... The first solution is guaranteed money in the millions and the other solution could possibly end with players losing money.
I can bet the primary screamers are the Aces, Sky, and other teams out of the playoffs, quickly except the Fever. I doubt Caitlin would risk it.
Go right ahead.
27 years x 50,000,000 = 1,350,000,000 that the NBA has paid into the WNBA. (I am guessing that they paid this amount every year as I don't know the exact number of every single year.) Now I am sure the NBA didn't just GIVE them the money and not expect it to be paid back (I am sure over a period of time) so can the WNBA just pay that back in one lump sum? Every one takes a cut from the money you make and by the time it gets down to paying the players there isn't much left to divide up amongst them hence the low salaries. It won't be good if they go through with this lockout expecting more money because it will fold the league faster than a lawn chair. One good or eve great year isn't going to balance the books when it comes to something that has been loosing money for decades it needs time to get the red back to black ink and it needs much more money to accomplish that. There are teams that still only play in 10,000 seat arenas and do not sell them out, that isn't enough to pay players millions. With CC in the league and what it is doing is a very good start, but it's only a start.
One thing I don't think these women understand is you need star power to propel your league and it needs to happen over a long period of time to get that type of money, CC has this league on a great trajectory but she can't do it alone. The NBA has had to do the same exact thing in the 70's it was almost folded because NOBODY was watching it and games were on tape delay to play AFTER regular programing late at night. Bring in two amazing players from college (Bird and Johnson) and you brought the fans with them that launched the league in a profitable direction but it still took time to get people making millions of dollars it wasn't just after the first year. Magic's rookie salary was 460,000 per year while Bird was 650,000 per year. The league salary in 1979 when both them joined was 173,500 average and that was after 30 years since the beginning of the league, it takes time to build something like this.
The NBA generated 10.58 billion last year with 30 teams and playing 82 games while the WNBA does about 200 million with 12 teams playing 40 games, the numbers for trying to demand million dollar salaries isn't there and won't be for a while and that is ONLY if they get more star power in the league to drive up revenue.
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Aja Wilson needs to accept the fact that she's the best player in a Niche sport that is only in business because it's being subsidized by the NBA. I heard someone report that her teams total salary is $1.5 million & she want a raise that will pay her $1 million? Good luck with that
Some of the WNBA players need to educate themselves on why the money they want is not available. It would be nice to make more but that’s not happy or a very long time.
The NBA is player driven league and the W only has one megastar. Best hope for now is for players to aim for endorsements to increase their income. Lockout and the league won’t recover.
They can go on lock out ..in my part I don even watch it hehehhehr😂😂😂
Pay them all what they deserve, but only based on their direct and undeniable impact on the league. CC gets a multi-million $$$ contract, and many of them get pay cuts for all of the damage they have done.
You wanted mre money, you gotta sto hating on the goose that lays your golden egg! Grw the league first before demanding money the league doesn't have yet! It takes time and a lot of work and you have to help each other out to help CC bring in more money!
when has the wnba ever made a profit?
At this point I would watch caitlin clark play golf and be treated with respect and have fun without worrying about being hurt
This will be the worst decision for themselves. They need to play overseas or find a retail job.