Great review as always! Though my OCD would like to suggest that when you show the bar graphs, sort the computers from best to worst. This will make it easier for us to compare the review model with other laptops.
Love the way you introduce products, I looked back many of your previous videos when I first saw your channel, just letting you know that I have never comments on RUclips videos, but I am always looking forward to see your RUclips update, please keep your passions, and hope you are doing better and find a balance support and you don’t have to purchase with your own money anymore ;)
**forehead slap** I bought one of these recently, used for $120. I'm watching your review and you mention the backlight... wait a minute, what?? I'm looking if mine has one, I just assumed it didn't! I had to look it up, but it's function/space! Maybe that's common on ThinkPads but this is my first one. I feel a little silly that I didn't realize it had a backlight, but so glad it does! For light use and a little sketching, this laptop is still perfectly usable in 2024, especially for the low prices they can be had.
Great review. I bought mine in August 2018. Unfortunately, it runs super hot even with it unplugged. It's an unbearable heat that takes a long time to dissipate.
Hi Andrew. I agree with most of your comments except the one related to the web cam. I believe that a premium device like this one should have a better web camera. I understand that most brands give little relevance to this area. In general I also believe this is an awesome device even up to today standards. Thanks for your videos I love your professional approach and excellence. Keep up the good work.
I would agree with you if we were talking of a budget or mid price device. In this case we are talking about a unit that could reach 2K$. I believe premium devices with premium prices should have at least decent components and I don’t believe that is the case. Specially if we refer a unit that can be used as a mobile device mainly used when traveling. There is no justification for the price point of this device. May be not a deal breaker for some people... in my point of view we should be a bit more demanding in this case...
I've had mine for 6 months with the i5, its absolutely great. I wish I could have spent more on the i7 but I dont need it. Such a handy laptop for traveling aswell and how can you best that display?
I’m stuck between choosing these 2 laptops: 1) Lenovo Yoga C930 2) Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Yoga (latest version) Budget is not too big of an issue, and I want a way to write notes in tablet mode in college. Any advice? Thanks.
Hi +Andrew Marc David, The laptop you reviewed is $1700 !!! The ~$1300 laptop comes with i5 processor and FHD display. I see most of RUclipsrs do this, they show listing of the least price Base trim model($1300) but the actual review is made on expensive high end trim model (~$1700). Even after discounts the expensive trim model are still expensive... for most of consumers
I love the Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Yoga. Beautiful device. I wish it had an option for dedicated graphics, even a low end card like the MX250. It would really make it the ultimate device for content creators. What do you think of the X1 Yoga vs. X1 Extreme for 4k video editing?
If Apple put this 2019 8 core i9 MB Pro in that X1 Yoga case, life would be peachy. Real keyboard, grippy case, built in 'Apple Pencil' stylus for drawing in Adobe apps - etc.
This was a great video, however Very interesting on X1 Yoga 4th gen and comparison between 3rd and 4th. But, as there are no news about it (except CES 2019) yet, is it realistic to expect it on June ?
How can you get a similar laptop but with a Nvidia GPU? The Intel GPU really drags down the potential for this laptop. Good video, no annoying music or background, easy to understand. Thanks.
AMD Tech, you said the 4k HDR screen is good for video editing, but for 4k video editing, dedicated graphics are usually recommended. How do the video rendering times compare to the X1 Extreme or Spectre x360 15t?
I'm looking at this and the C930. I'd be curious to know what you think: if you had to pick one, which would you pick? I'm leaning toward this for the faster processor, better battery life and Thinkpad ruggedness. But the C930 has true 4k, the option of a 2 tb ssd and while it doesn't have as many warranty options, comes in at $400 cheaper. While $400 is still $400 I also want to have the best as I want it to last for longer than 3 years and handle travel (like international). And I was very surprised that I liked the silver on the Thinkpad. Would love your opinion :) Not gaming on this. Development work, likely some MS Office, Affinity photo, forex trading (when I'm not tunneling into my desktop) and maybe some 3d with Blender.
Do you like the feel of metal or carbon fiber? The C930 has a metal exterior, of which I'm not personally a fan. As I writer, I hate typing on cold metal. I also didn't care for the keyboard. It's very stiff and shallow. The C930 has better sound because of the new hinge, which is its stand out feature, but I ended up returning it. Those things may not be a dealbreaker for you. If you're interested in the X1 Yoga, like me, it may be worth it to wait until the back to school sale season. In June, Lenovo will launch the 4th gen X1 Yoga, which will make the 3rd gen go on sale, especially during promotions and holidays. The 5th gen Carbon is currently 49% off.
Why wouldn't it be great in 2019? It's basically a year or two old. Try saying that to a 2014 era Lenovo and you'll find even 3rd and/or 4th gen i5/i7's still perform perfectly fine.
June 2019. There is an intalian laptop channel where the Lenovo guys said it is going tobe in JUNE, and they also gave some preliminry prices for T490, T490s and X1 carbon (7th gen).
@@andrewmarcdavid In June, the 7th gen Carbon & 4th gen Yoga will launch. In July, the 2nd gen Extreme will the 4k HDR Oled screen option will launch. The new Extreme sounds AMAZING! I can't wait. Although, I love the X1 Yoga. I'm not excited for 4th gen, which will be made of aluminum. As a writer, I like the feel of carbon fiber. I hate typing on a cold metal laptop. The good news is that when the aluminum version launches, the current version should go on sale. The 5th gen Carbon is on sale for 49% off right now.
I've tried Dell, Asus & HP and so far Asus gave me the worst experience thanks to its' bad after sales service. Now i'm looking to try Lenovo as it has some good reputation, hope i'm not making the wrong move.
Dear Andrew. As usual this is a great review. I was checking some of your old reviews and I found one for the Asus transformer 3 pro that was appealing to the point that I would like to get it but it is no longer available in Amazon neither in Best buy or Ebay. Do you know any place where I can find it in NYC or with an online seller? Many thanks in advance for any advise
Mobility is always important but i've seen that the X1 tablet has some serious problems with battery life. Can´t be mobile without a decent battery life
I use both daily. Both are about the same size. Both are light weight. We often use the X1 without the battery when we are on the go. But I prefer the X1 Yoga because of the touch screen and I want it for illustrations. If you dont need touch screen and drawing capabilities, go with the X1. But if you need touch screen and drawing ability go with the X1 Yoga.
RUclipsrs singing the praise of Lenovo may be doing so based on the Thinkpad legacy from IBM. Lenovo's quality has not only gone down but they were recently ranked 2nd to dead last from Laptop Magazine. People on Reddit who love Thinkpads are complaining about problems a lot lately with build quality, the powder coating coming scraping off the edges, poor battery life, noisy fans and tons of backlight bleed even on their flagship P1. Much of the complaints are coming from The X1 Carbon, X1 Extreme and the P1. Lenovo simply won't help customers and when they replace machines during the return period Lenovo makes the customer wait several weeks to get their replacements. Time to move onto other brands because Lenovo is NOT IBM when it comes to the Thinkpads. I speak from experience with 3 faulty X1 Carbons.
If you compare the insides of this machine (shown in the video when Andrew removes the base) to a MacBook, you can see why the Lenovo has issues with reliability despite versatile features and pleasing external appearance. It's a mess! I just saw an i5 16 GB RAM 512 GB SSD HDR Resolution Display X1 Yoga Gen 3 used for £900 (£1800 new for that spec!) and was thinking about it as a travel machine for business with my main machine being a 2019 8 Core i9 MacBook Pro, but if it's going to be unreliable, a bit concerned! Am going to be blunt, based on my experience with 2 out of 3 DJI drones being faulty at purchase, and my Phantom 4 Pro camera gimbal being unreliable, that Chinese QA is not up to scratch, despite effective industrial design and marketing.
I went for this version also, because I need it for illustratios and also the huge amount of ports it has compared to other drawing laptops of a similar price. When the keyboard retracts, that is awesome. The down side is the graphics card, but when watching movies it' s great. I haven't plsyed any gsmes on it yet.
"This time around, THEY didn't go with LTE, because THEY do not offer the LTE with the HDR version" 3:52 ...... I thought it was purchased and not sent.
dedclownsRfunny I’ve been comparing the two recently, trying to decide. The X1 yoga has a better keyboard (like my x1 carbon) and has the red finger cursor. This also has the newer i7 8650u, vs the C930 with the 8550. Other than that there isn’t much difference. The C930 has amazing speakers but that isn’t something I’m interested in
Jay Lakhani I ended up chatting with a Lenovo rep and they said the x1 yoga is more business oriented, built for more travel, and better keyboard. You’ve pretty much confirmed that, too. The screen on the c930 with 4K looks incredible, but I need better typing so I’ll be getting the x1 yoga or carbon - still haven’t decided lol. Cheers man!!
Jay Lakhani nice! I just have to sell my house first lol. Not even kidding, have to sell my house to pay off debts and buy a cheaper one. But I’m hoping I’ll get a good offer today so I can access their deposit money lol
Battery max 3-4 hours, sometimes even less. Needs constant charging, this is brought up by many owners. The promise was 15 hours. Good job, Lenovo. Keep away if you plan to purchase this for the business or travel. Huge disappointment.
I know it's 2022 but these things are coming off lease and I got a barely used one. The keyboard is the worst of any Thinkpad I've ever owned, and I've owned them since the days of the T20. It is much worse than the Yoga 460 keyboard. It is a mushy inconsistent piece of junk. You might as well buy an Acer. It's a sad day when Thinkpads have bad keyboards.
Plus, the 4th gen changes so much, most everyone I know who were waiting to see what the 4th had to offer (me included) are buying the 3rd gen instead.
I love the disclaimer at the beggining *Lenovo if you’re listening, I’m open for business* 😂
I know Lenovo is 'listening'. Just like we all do.
Great review as always! Though my OCD would like to suggest that when you show the bar graphs, sort the computers from best to worst. This will make it easier for us to compare the review model with other laptops.
I am not sure whose comment it is based on @Hector G's reply but it's a GREAT suggestion
You look like Martin Shkreli after a long lunch
It's 2019, and finally i can afford... the 2016 2nd gen X1 Yoga. Wish me luck. 😂
It's 2020 and I am able to afford the 2nd gen (2015) Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga12 lol
Is it still worth in 2022 ?
Honestly for work its the best daily driver. And u can get i7 8650u with fhd in about 180 to 200 usd in my country
Love the way you introduce products, I looked back many of your previous videos when I first saw your channel, just letting you know that I have never comments on RUclips videos, but I am always looking forward to see your RUclips update, please keep your passions, and hope you are doing better and find a balance support and you don’t have to purchase with your own money anymore ;)
**forehead slap** I bought one of these recently, used for $120. I'm watching your review and you mention the backlight... wait a minute, what?? I'm looking if mine has one, I just assumed it didn't! I had to look it up, but it's function/space! Maybe that's common on ThinkPads but this is my first one. I feel a little silly that I didn't realize it had a backlight, but so glad it does! For light use and a little sketching, this laptop is still perfectly usable in 2024, especially for the low prices they can be had.
400$ refurbished...
This is the best review for this laptop 💻👏
Great review. I bought mine in August 2018. Unfortunately, it runs super hot even with it unplugged. It's an unbearable heat that takes a long time to dissipate.
How did you resolved this prb pls?
I never did.@@khalidsami-uv4kp
that's really worth, i gonna got one as pre-owned..
thanks for this review ✨
Hi Andrew. I agree with most of your comments except the one related to the web cam. I believe that a premium device like this one should have a better web camera. I understand that most brands give little relevance to this area. In general I also believe this is an awesome device even up to today standards. Thanks for your videos I love your professional approach and excellence. Keep up the good work.
To be honest, I've never used my webcam on my laptop for like 5 years now, so I don't really care when making a choice.
I would agree with you if we were talking of a budget or mid price device. In this case we are talking about a unit that could reach 2K$. I believe premium devices with premium prices should have at least decent components and I don’t believe that is the case. Specially if we refer a unit that can be used as a mobile device mainly used when traveling. There is no justification for the price point of this device. May be not a deal breaker for some people... in my point of view we should be a bit more demanding in this case...
Good review, worth listening & watching, and the laptop was impressive to say at least.
I've had mine for 6 months with the i5, its absolutely great. I wish I could have spent more on the i7 but I dont need it. Such a handy laptop for traveling aswell and how can you best that display?
I’m stuck between choosing these 2 laptops:
1) Lenovo Yoga C930
2) Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Yoga (latest version)
Budget is not too big of an issue, and I want a way to write notes in tablet mode in college.
Any advice? Thanks.
Me toooooo!!!
I always say the words “coming up” with you. Just satisfying to be able to say it with your tone. Haha
Love it 👊
It is like Andrew's "signature"... I like.
Would love to see a review of the Dell precision 5530 2 in 1 next!
Nice review, De Niro
Very good content thank you :)
Nice, thanks for the review!
Hi Andrew,
If I already have this machine, is it possible to upgrade the processor?
2024 still worth it!! ❤
This is my DREAM machine! Can't wait to watch this review! This was a great review! LOVE this laptop so much! T___T
Better then this aluminum version from 4gen for sure!
Hi +Andrew Marc David,
The laptop you reviewed is $1700 !!!
The ~$1300 laptop comes with i5 processor and FHD display.
I see most of RUclipsrs do this, they show listing of the least price Base trim model($1300) but the actual review is made on expensive high end trim model (~$1700).
Even after discounts the expensive trim model are still expensive... for most of consumers
Great review! How would you compare this against the Yoga C930 that seems very similar but more expensive?
Which would you pay for if budget demanded a choice: i7 over i5, or 16gb over 8gb RAM?
I love the Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Yoga. Beautiful device. I wish it had an option for dedicated graphics, even a low end card like the MX250. It would really make it the ultimate device for content creators. What do you think of the X1 Yoga vs. X1 Extreme for 4k video editing?
If Apple put this 2019 8 core i9 MB Pro in that X1 Yoga case, life would be peachy. Real keyboard, grippy case, built in 'Apple Pencil' stylus for drawing in Adobe apps - etc.
Great video thank you
Great review as usual! Shared to Twitter and Facebook as you read this.
Thanks Tim 👊
Thumbs up just for the funny intro.
Good Videos as always!!! I would love to see you make a video on the best budget 14 inch laptop for gaming, Thanks
Steven Garcia HP PAVILION ×360
@@sauravkumarsinha7327 thanks I'll check it out.
Quick check if you have recently compared with X1 Yoga (Gen4)?
This was a great video, however Very interesting on X1 Yoga 4th gen and comparison between 3rd and 4th. But, as there are no news about it (except CES 2019) yet, is it realistic to expect it on June ?
I read on the Lenovo website it was coming out in July 2019.
How can you get a similar laptop but with a Nvidia GPU? The Intel GPU really drags down the potential for this laptop.
Good video, no annoying music or background, easy to understand.
Thanks.
Microsoft surface
AMD Tech, you said the 4k HDR screen is good for video editing, but for 4k video editing, dedicated graphics are usually recommended. How do the video rendering times compare to the X1 Extreme or Spectre x360 15t?
want a second-hand/refurbished 2017 version or even 2016 version, the new version doesn't anything more to attract me.
I'm looking at this and the C930. I'd be curious to know what you think: if you had to pick one, which would you pick? I'm leaning toward this for the faster processor, better battery life and Thinkpad ruggedness. But the C930 has true 4k, the option of a 2 tb ssd and while it doesn't have as many warranty options, comes in at $400 cheaper. While $400 is still $400 I also want to have the best as I want it to last for longer than 3 years and handle travel (like international). And I was very surprised that I liked the silver on the Thinkpad. Would love your opinion :) Not gaming on this. Development work, likely some MS Office, Affinity photo, forex trading (when I'm not tunneling into my desktop) and maybe some 3d with Blender.
Do you like the feel of metal or carbon fiber? The C930 has a metal exterior, of which I'm not personally a fan. As I writer, I hate typing on cold metal. I also didn't care for the keyboard. It's very stiff and shallow. The C930 has better sound because of the new hinge, which is its stand out feature, but I ended up returning it. Those things may not be a dealbreaker for you.
If you're interested in the X1 Yoga, like me, it may be worth it to wait until the back to school sale season. In June, Lenovo will launch the 4th gen X1 Yoga, which will make the 3rd gen go on sale, especially during promotions and holidays. The 5th gen Carbon is currently 49% off.
Own this model absolutely love it i7 widows pro
thats cool. I did enjoy the review. good job!
Awesome, thank you!
paused during the long ad at 4:00, goodbye won't be back
Best news I heard all day
What is the model of LCD you have (you can check in System Information / BIOS)? Is there PWM? (moving horizontal/vertical lines when viewed on camera)
Why wouldn't it be great in 2019? It's basically a year or two old. Try saying that to a 2014 era Lenovo and you'll find even 3rd and/or 4th gen i5/i7's still perform perfectly fine.
Is there a time frame for when a review of the Lenovo X1 carbon 7th generation will be coming out?
Hopefully soon. I reached out to Lenovo and waiting to hear back
June 2019. There is an intalian laptop channel where the Lenovo guys said it is going tobe in JUNE, and they also gave some preliminry prices for T490, T490s and X1 carbon (7th gen).
Thanks for the info!
@@andrewmarcdavid In June, the 7th gen Carbon & 4th gen Yoga will launch. In July, the 2nd gen Extreme will the 4k HDR Oled screen option will launch. The new Extreme sounds AMAZING! I can't wait. Although, I love the X1 Yoga. I'm not excited for 4th gen, which will be made of aluminum. As a writer, I like the feel of carbon fiber. I hate typing on a cold metal laptop. The good news is that when the aluminum version launches, the current version should go on sale. The 5th gen Carbon is on sale for 49% off right now.
Seems like a perfect one for personnal use
I've tried Dell, Asus & HP and so far Asus gave me the worst experience thanks to its' bad after sales service. Now i'm looking to try Lenovo as it has some good reputation, hope i'm not making the wrong move.
The first gen is still great in 2020, so I'd assume the 3rd gen is great a year ago :P
Dear Andrew. As usual this is a great review. I was checking some of your old reviews and I found one for the Asus transformer 3 pro that was appealing to the point that I would like to get it but it is no longer available in Amazon neither in Best buy or Ebay. Do you know any place where I can find it in NYC or with an online seller? Many thanks in advance for any advise
Awesome video, i have Lenovo X1 Yoga (3rd Gen) and built-in 8gb ram, i want to upgrade upto 16GB ram, is it supported ?
this model 20LD0007AD
3:50 " Sim Slot for optional LTE" "Didn't go with LTE" - what?
The slot is there but radio not in this sku.
Could you show me or give me an opinion on size comparison between this and the X1 tablet? Mobility is important for me and I'm looking at both.
Mobility is always important but i've seen that the X1 tablet has some serious problems with battery life. Can´t be mobile without a decent battery life
I use both daily. Both are about the same size. Both are light weight. We often use the X1 without the battery when we are on the go. But I prefer the X1 Yoga because of the touch screen and I want it for illustrations. If you dont need touch screen and drawing capabilities, go with the X1. But if you need touch screen and drawing ability go with the X1 Yoga.
RUclipsrs singing the praise of Lenovo may be doing so based on the Thinkpad legacy from IBM. Lenovo's quality has not only gone down but they were recently ranked 2nd to dead last from Laptop Magazine. People on Reddit who love Thinkpads are complaining about problems a lot lately with build quality, the powder coating coming scraping off the edges, poor battery life, noisy fans and tons of backlight bleed even on their flagship P1. Much of the complaints are coming from The X1 Carbon, X1 Extreme and the P1. Lenovo simply won't help customers and when they replace machines during the return period Lenovo makes the customer wait several weeks to get their replacements. Time to move onto other brands because Lenovo is NOT IBM when it comes to the Thinkpads. I speak from experience with 3 faulty X1 Carbons.
If you compare the insides of this machine (shown in the video when Andrew removes the base) to a MacBook, you can see why the Lenovo has issues with reliability despite versatile features and pleasing external appearance. It's a mess! I just saw an i5 16 GB RAM 512 GB SSD HDR Resolution Display X1 Yoga Gen 3 used for £900 (£1800 new for that spec!) and was thinking about it as a travel machine for business with my main machine being a 2019 8 Core i9 MacBook Pro, but if it's going to be unreliable, a bit concerned! Am going to be blunt, based on my experience with 2 out of 3 DJI drones being faulty at purchase, and my Phantom 4 Pro camera gimbal being unreliable, that Chinese QA is not up to scratch, despite effective industrial design and marketing.
I went for this version also, because I need it for illustratios and also the huge amount of ports it has compared to other drawing laptops of a similar price. When the keyboard retracts, that is awesome. The down side is the graphics card, but when watching movies it' s great. I haven't plsyed any gsmes on it yet.
On what site do you resell your items?
Hey Andrew, are we getting your take on Google Pixel 3a ?
Yes editing the video as we speak.
That's another issue I have with Lenovo machines are the insanely thick bezels.
"This time around, THEY didn't go with LTE, because THEY do not offer the LTE with the HDR version" 3:52 ...... I thought it was purchased and not sent.
He meant the products offered (as in selling) by Lenovo doesn't give an option for LTE with the QWHD HDR model.
While the x1 Carbon 6th gen does.
What was the music you used at the beginning of the video?
Ich don't look like the typical Tech RUclipsr.
Yeh, he is way more sexy. ;)
Still worth?
I don’t understand why they insist on putting such poor webcams on their laptops.
It's either this or acer aspire 3 spin i3 n305
so did you get a sponsorship from lenovo?
No sponsorship but I now get review units
Is it touch screen? I mean can we use as tablet feature without the pen?
Yes
Andrew is just good. Try reviewing mobile phones too.
I do review smartphones as well. I have the new Pixel 3a coming up.
could you please review Yoga C640?
What’s the difference between the X1 Yoga and the C930 Yoga??
dedclownsRfunny I’ve been comparing the two recently, trying to decide. The X1 yoga has a better keyboard (like my x1 carbon) and has the red finger cursor. This also has the newer i7 8650u, vs the C930 with the 8550. Other than that there isn’t much difference. The C930 has amazing speakers but that isn’t something I’m interested in
Jay Lakhani I ended up chatting with a Lenovo rep and they said the x1 yoga is more business oriented, built for more travel, and better keyboard. You’ve pretty much confirmed that, too. The screen on the c930 with 4K looks incredible, but I need better typing so I’ll be getting the x1 yoga or carbon - still haven’t decided lol. Cheers man!!
dedclownsRfunny you’re welcome man! I’m gonna get the third or 4th gen thinkpad yoga too
Jay Lakhani nice! I just have to sell my house first lol. Not even kidding, have to sell my house to pay off debts and buy a cheaper one. But I’m hoping I’ll get a good offer today so I can access their deposit money lol
What's different between this and x1 carbon?
This one can become a tablet and supports a pen/touch input. The regular X1 Carbon doesn't.
Battery max 3-4 hours, sometimes even less. Needs constant charging, this is brought up by many owners. The promise was 15 hours. Good job, Lenovo. Keep away if you plan to purchase this for the business or travel. Huge disappointment.
Are you sure you are talking about gen3 not gen2 or gen1?
These devices (gen3) are rumored to be plagued by a lot of hardware problems. stay away. we just ordered a gen4 yoga with 4K display.
how is it going so far with your gen4? I am thinking about it too
Does the Wacom pen have palm rejection
Yes palm rejection works great.
I know it's 2022 but these things are coming off lease and I got a barely used one. The keyboard is the worst of any Thinkpad I've ever owned, and I've owned them since the days of the T20. It is much worse than the Yoga 460 keyboard. It is a mushy inconsistent piece of junk. You might as well buy an Acer. It's a sad day when Thinkpads have bad keyboards.
Its bad option for 2023?
I want all so that's.
Your reviewing this when Lenovo is releasing the X1 Yoga (4th Generation) on one month which is a different build!! A little late dont you think?
Not for those looking to save some money on a still great device. I will be reviewing the new version very soon. Stay tuned.
Plus, the 4th gen changes so much, most everyone I know who were waiting to see what the 4th had to offer (me included) are buying the 3rd gen instead.
Wth is that graph, sort it dude