Why people hate 343's art style
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This is full-on cringe
You mean everyone hating on you for stating the obvious about 4 being better than Reach?
Still relevant tbh but hey! Halo Infinite is on the horizon so hopefully it has that Trilogy design
Lmao
In what regard? Are you looking back on your opinions and thinking they are cringe worthy or are you talking about the debate in the comments section?
Late Night Gaming no
Reach felt the most grounded and realistic. The weapons looked and felt heavy and rigid and mechanical. The UNSC looked tactical and militaristic. The Covenant looked alien, terrifying, and brutal.
I strongly agree
What I liked the most was how the armour looked used. Like, the armour looked like it had been through war. All the scratches and dents show it's seen some action
DaManBearPig the AR in infinite looks like the same one as reach
@@adnan8837 it looks like a mix of Reach with the lights of 3. Looks great
DaManBearPig Yeah I definitely agree 👍
Him: I don't think Halo: Reach and Halo 2 were that good.
Halo Community: So you have chosen... *DEATH!*
Conn0rized Galo 2 aniversario is oop bc of graphics and the damn mechanics, dual wielding is introduced, the chtscenes in remastered look better than any movie I have seen, and oh don’t even talk ab the arbiter gameplay. But sort of agree on reach , they could have made it more emotional of sorts, like the team deaths weren’t that impactful, the only one that trully hurt was noble 6.
Im not saying that saying this to a Halo fan would result in you being impaled with an Energy Sword...
All im saying is dont say it
#justsaying
Halo 3 ass compared to them
Halo 2 is my fav but unlike other I understand why people might hate it
reddit knights lol more emotional to anything in the other halos the only one to be among them or surpass it was chief losing Cortana which had like 4 games and over a decade to grow attached to the character. Being in the boots of a spartan team it gives you emotion on a different scale since they are supposed to be machine like.
Thugish? The elites in Halo Reach looked like BEASTS, I don't mean in the animal way, but I mean in the way that they looked stronger and more fearsome than in halo 1-3. Now 4 and beyond looked like brutes.
The armor in Reach for both Spartans and elites was just beautiful, I love everything about Reach so much.
Totally agree.
The thing that they were going for in Reach was practicality. The UNSC weren't at their technological height in Halos 2, 3, and 4, and seeing how it was a prequel, they changed it to look more gritty. The Spartans looked a lot bulkier because they had to pack up more armor. Same with the covenant. The weapons didn't look super shiny because they were out in the field of battle, gathering dirt, grit, and scratches, and whatnot. Reach's art style was damn good.
DarKnightSpider Halo Reach happened literally right before Halo 1.
SOMEGUY7893 Yeah, but Halo CE still had limitations. The Mark V was not as technologically advanced as the Mark VI, and the armor in Halo CE was really bulky, so my point still stands.
“I think Halo 4 is a damn good game and much better than Halo Reach...”
That’s a pretty unpopular opinion but I guess I can see why someone would feel that way given how polarizing Reach was-
“...and Halo 2”
*SOON THE GREAT JOURNEY SHALL BEGIN. BUT WHEN IT DOES, THE WEIGHT OF YOUR HERESY WILL STAY YOUR FEET, AND YOU SHALL BE LEFT BEHIND.*
go commit lego step
Or in other words "Get the heavy flamer"
Were you there in 2004? Halo 2's campaign level design sucked... Especially compared to Halo CE and Reach
@@user-ft4bl4lh9w the comment was for corf
literally my exact reaction
I love that you wear your custom armor during cutscenes in Halo Reach
Same
I agree with this and as much as reach customization would be a dream come true in infinite but I think I would break the game to the chief with custom armour in a cutscene
That’s one reason reach is my second favorite halo game
@Lich no, fuck that
@Lich played all the bungie games, over 10 times each. Never got tired of master chief.
I want to go back to the original shit
"A tiny man in a booster seat with giant fairy wings"
I died laughing 😂🤣
ive been laughing this whole video
terry toudle me too
***** HEY ITS YOU AGAIN
+Dominous Sangheili
Every video I go onto, you're always in the comments somewhere...
TehLion7 WHY U STOCKING ME?!?!?!
>4
>better than 2
>better than reach
When the great journey arrives, your heresy shall stay your feet...
^And You shall be left behind.
4 is better than reach?
A Duck I feel that too
4 is ass
4 was alright imo.
7:43 *"Why does it have tiny legs and a baby face, it's a tiny man in a booster seat with fairy wings"*
Best bit of the video
Actually I loved the reach art style, if I had to choose between a halo game art style from 1 to 5 I would say a mix between reach, 3 and 2A
code_ i love reach but also halo 4. It looks more professional and galactic. Not just military with cool helmets
WAYNE ENTERPRISES To me Halo 4 and Halo 5 looks like they are wearing plastic. The armour doesnt look real its doesnt look war torn or even pratical.
Maria The Ripper I got to totally agree, I mean the design not the weathering and that stuff, the designs are better even tho they need some scratches, bags and use to look badass. Just imagine those armors with that circumstances, damn that’s cool. Like, take one halo 4/5 armor and add to it some halo reach stuff, definitely cool af
Maria The Ripper i found halo 3 and reach spartan armour to look like plastic, i think it was the color scheme. Still like 1 to 3 much better, didnt even like halo 2's elites when it first came out, too round, they were thin in 1, eventually it grew to me, love that 3 pointed helmet.
Yeah Halo 3 was super plasticky looking and honestly I kinda dig that look. Makes it look like someone is telling a story with brightly colored action figures.
The Halo Reach art style was honestly my favorite. I felt that it preserved the style of the original Halo titles, but, as you said with the marines, made it a bit more gritty and realistic. It made me look at Spartans in a different way; as soldiers, not machines. Which, I guess is probably what they were going for, considering the overall tone of the game.
I agree with you on Halo 4 and forward, however. All the enemies, locales, everything just feels.... I don't know, like, generic sci-fi. Like they plastered a layer of Stargate over everything.
mike fontenot yeah I mean as a kid playing Halo CE and Halo 2, I always assumed Master Chief and the Spartans in general were these advanced robots or something. By Halo 3 I realised this wasn't the case but the armour always felt too robotic and stiff/rigid for it be actually plausible for a human (even a genetically modified one) to use for a long period of time. Reach on the other hand kept the robotic style but made the Spartans armour look more like it was designed for a human to actually wear and not be part of a machine.
Yeah especially compared to Halo CE, I mean Master chief looked spit shined in that one lol
mike fontenot Gritty and realistic... you just lost all credibility
Jay Durr
I didn't know I had any to begin with 3:
Jay Durr But reach did look more gritty and realistic.
Halo Reachs arts style is perfect because the guns feel gritty and warlike
Eoin Not perfect, but good
The only things i hate about reach is the suckie asualt rifle, the grunts sounding like humans, and the hunter on legendary
Prefer halo 4 guns the sound of the dmr though
Augustus Sinclair To be fair though, the entire idea of Reach was to tell the gritty story of Spartans who were bred to die. If anything CoD became influenced by Halo, as they started adding exosuits and space themes and fucking aliens of all things to compete and hide the fact that they’re just rehashing the same story over and over again
Augustus Sinclair f
Me: "What's with all the dislikes?"
12:37
"Oh... that's why"
😂😂 amen
I declare heresy.
Yup.
That's a bruh moment
Didnt even notice It. Good thing I went to the comments and didnt waste any more of my time watching this shite.
No offense, but the Halo: Reach Elites are some of my favourites. They look like powerful Warriors, their armour looks wonderfully over-the-top
I thought they looked the best in Halo 2 (anniversary or original). They were just so noble and sleek looking, and whenever they talked you got the sense that they were honorable warriors, not brutes. Halo 5 has by far the worst design imo. They are basically the brutes now lol.
Ethan DeMille I liked the H2A elites but the feet were better in H3 and HReach just my opinion
sharon cunningham, yeah I love the halo 3 elite design actually, and I agree with you about the H2A feet, I think they are way too narrow
@@ethandemille2585 these honorable warriors still try to assassinate their leaders in the middle of the night.
Got to agree, Halo Reach had a bit on an art style change because if was a prequel. The sleek designs of weapons and such came over time in the other games.
Halo 4's Elite looked like little kid in the dads over sized armor. A bunch of sucked up speed freaks in cos-play.
I really loved the imposing presence the Elites had in Halo Reach, I also really like the way the looked in H1 - H3.
Halo 4's art style made the Spartans look like a bunch of glammed up transformers. Hot trash.
the elite design in reach is by far the best
and in general
Also it's the last one you can actually play as an elite too
No the best is H2A
Sure if you want elites with tooth pick legs.
ravensfootball33 agreed
The Art Style of Reach should've been how Halo 4, 5, and 6 is the route they should've went if you ask me.
Reach was gorgeous. I loved it so much.
yessssss ikr
Sev3617 +1
DonMega1313
I'm not really talking so much about the colors (Even though im not sure what you mean... with being "Grey)
But every in Halo 4, even down to the armor. IS fucking ugly as all hell.
I really liked the grit and grime of the Spartan armor in Reach. You could see scratches and chipping paint. I loved it. And the elite armor variants were fucking sexy.
except the elites, that was a downgrade
“Halo 4 is better than halo reach and halo 2” now that’s a funny joke
It's his opinion.
And it’s the wrong opinion, prufan.
Halo 4 is indeed really good, but saying it’s better than both Reach and 2 is a sin to gamers
prufan yeah a shitty one
Imo, I don't think Halo 4 is better than Reach, but more like in similar spots on a leaderboard.
I'm yet to finish Combat Evolved, 2, and ODST on MCC, but I've finishes the other Halo games (minus Spartan assault and the RTS games)
I like Halo 4 because that was the first Halo game I'd played. Reach has told one of my favorite stories in general and the art style is nice.
I also like Halo 4 because of it's story and, you can make fun of me, tha art style.
The art style difference is like Day and Night, but I really like both stories. Both tell a dark story (within their own game).
(Taken from LNG's vid on Halo 4 Retrospective) Halo 4 is a story about a child soldier, whose so mentally damaged that he can't even process losing one of, if not, the only person keeping him somewhat grounded. (Before Blue Team)
Reach tells a war story about sacrifice and compromise, with an impending doom approaching.
Yes, I know, I had to learn about 4's story via LNG's video, but I don't even play games in general for story. I just play them for fun. Story is a by-product imo. A fun one too, depending on how good it is.
If you've made it to here, congratulations on being able to read the stroke that just came out of my mouth, because I did not make any sense at all, did I?
In my opinion, Halo Reach was the Peak of Mount Olympus. Now we're falling off the peak into Tartarus.
Yeah, I always thought that the covenant was basically sleek alien islam (from medieval, not modern times) Reach captures that perfectly
The only thing that sucked about Reach:
- Butchering the Halo: Fall of Reach lore Bungie had since 2001.
- Nerfing the Campaign compared to Halo 3: no tank-tank battles, no battle rivalling the 2 Scarabs combat on The Covenant mission.
- Armor Lock.
- Bloom.
- Non-Halo 1 Anniversary maps in Reach mostly suck in simplistic & memorable designs. Halo: CE had like Boarding Action & Derelict, Halo 2 had Midship & Lockout, Halo 3 had Guardian & Construct, etc. Although to be fair, Anchor 9 in Reach is also awesome.
And really, that's it! Reach was close to perfection. I loved how both online & splitscreen, we had Campaign, Firefight, Customs & Forge to be spoilt over. Whereas in 4 & 5? meh.
Valdric Lim
-Well they're not gonna do a game that takes place over the course of less then a day. That'll be a really dumb idea
-It doesn't really work with what type of team Noble Team is. In previous games, Chief was a Battlefield changer, he can win the battlefield just by him being there. Noble team, while they can do that, they're more of a commando squad, going around the main battle to strike at where it hurts most.
-TBH, I never really cared about Armor lock, I'll almost say it's bloody useless...unless it's to laugh at some fool in a ghost. You become a immobile, cannot fight back, rock, woopy fucking do. Rather take the Bubble shield in halo 3 and Reach. Least they are useful.
-don't really remember seeing any bloom
***** oh no, for at most 5 seconds. Also, their shields don't regen while in armor lock, so if you were kicking their ass, a armor lock isn't gonna change much
+Valdric Lim To be fair, Fall of Reach had some details that needed to be retconned before Halo: Reach. I mean, were we really supposed to believe Elites were a newly discovered on Reach when they they were seen on Harvest 30 years earlier?
I also can't understand why 343 changed sounds for weapons like needler, energy sword, plasma pistol. Energy sword in Halo 1/2/3 had a distinct sharp activaion sound. Now it's just a generic "energy weapon turn on" noise.
I agree with that, i loved the sound of the Halo 3 sword when you hit someone, in Halo 4-5 sounds very exaggerated and sooo fucking generic
THIS. God I miss the old plasma rifle sound.
Halo 1 i loved how if you changed your weapons you could clearly hear that amazing sound for weapons
I liked a lot of the old sounds but I always hated the energy sword. I actually use it now in Halo 2 (with new look) and in the 343 games
@@mazrimtaim3107 I much prefer the old energy sword sound.
One thing I loved about Halo was the art styles it gave to different factions. It made so much sense that they'd look the way they do.
The covenant looked alien, strange and different, like something we don't understand. The UNSC looked familiar, military, and modern, like our actual militaries. The Forerunners looked ancient, mysterious, and utilitarian, like something we can't comprehend.
Now the Covenant looks ugly, the UNSC looks power ranger and sci-fi, and Forerunners look over designed.
The galaxy is constantly changing and evolving.
I hope all the new covanant are different species of the original ones
Jackhills The elite You mean different races, bro? Different species would mean we wouldn't see any grunts, jackals, elites, or hunters. Although that would be interesting.
You know i think Halo 4 is better then Reach
Me: Whaa..
I think Halo 4 is better then Halo 2
Me: MakE It STOp
Besides small thing like the new tank they added being ok in my book. 4-5 art wise there were trash compared to the originals.
I loved the Halo Reach UNSC Army look. That UNSC Army and halo 3 marine look was perfect.
Reach had everything down pat.
ODST Brooks ain't that the truth
XD I think Everybody in the comment section besides LNG likes Halo Reach's Artstyle. it's his opinion and I don't mind. ex:
I loved Reach
I loved H4
Loved H3 (but not the plot)
Hated H5
Disliked CE ( for the first 3 missions)
Did not like H2
Hated ODST
My opinion and only about 1/2000 people share that opinion. everybody has em.
+Lenny the Ithorian J.R Personally I really liked ODST, uts atmosphere and music. But im willing to accept opinions.
Yeah nothing wrong with that dude. ODST has my favorite soundtrack and the atmosphere was...different kind of. For me the charctors and campaign fell short and the variety was iffy. No BR come on. Anyway some of the levels just didn't fit and the main plot is again pretty odd. Thats my opinion only though.
*hears that he likes Halo 4 more than Halo 2* "YOU WHAT"
Iowa Class Battleship *spits cigarette*
SAY WHAT
Mustafa Curgu So this is what my father found. I thought LNG was some kind of heretic.
-It is. If subscribed to enough this channel will cause hate against the best game ever on a galactic scale.
Iowa Class Battleship Could LTN possibly make any more hate?
*Halo 4 is better than Halo 2*
I guess so...
My exact reaction lol
Iowa Class Battleship You are correct halo 2 was way more popular than halo 4 lmao
Halo Reach was the best, if you saw Bungie’s vidoc they’re goal was to make halo more realistic and ground it in reality. I just wish the Spartans were taller looking.
@DarkStarEthan Reach is 10/10
@DarkStarEthan You use gay as an insult? Typical 8 year old
There’s a lore reasoning behind the Reach spartans’ statures.
Agreed, Bungie SUCCESSFULLY did what 343 tried to do; they kept Halo feeling like Halo while still making it more gritty/realistic looking. 343 achieved the gritty/realism look, but sacrificed the essence that made it still look like Halo.
@DarkStarEthan You literally said gay as an insult. Haven't heard that since kindergarten
“I didn’t like how halo:reach looked” and now you’ve officially gone too far
My only complaint about Halo Reach at this point is the animation, it feels slow compared to the other games. It's not a horrible thing, but it's very noticeable now.
@@Gerbs1913 It could be because of the slow frame rate issues.
@@SockEater4293
Maybe, Halo 2 even at 30 fps didn't seem like that though.
@@Gerbs1913 It was not actually at a constant 30 FPS until 2016 when 343 patched it.
@@SockEater4293 I mean on original Xbox or even on 360 it felt decently smooth. The only time I notice it in Reach is during cutscenes.
I... agree completely. Nothing really else to say. I think Halo 3 is the best looking Halo game, with Reach as kinda a sister to it, while Halo 4/5.... feels like a different franchise.
cpMetis Agreed greatly!
I agree but with 4/5 it did go in a whole new direction with a whole new story
I am a 100% with you
I always thought that Bungie's Halo had a horrible art style. Even in Halo 3 and Reach I never felt like they got it. In particular the darkness of Reach. The lighting there was awful. I liked 3's ideas and concepts, but it looked like it had been massively oversimplified and like they had added detailed textures onto a low-poly art style, which I didn't too much mind; It was 2007. Graphics were meh for the time. Reach I think solved this issue for me by giving the spartans this look which really sold to me that they are men in machine-enhanced armour, and made it look like the armour was actually desinged for different situations. One look at Jorge and you could tell he's your heavy weapons guy. One look at Jun and you could tell he's your team's sniper.
Halo 4/5 sorta threw that out of the window, but it has a few designs which I like. The Covenant look terrible and I immediately thought to myself; "Why do they all have the same skin?". I would have been okay with it if the classic black-skinned Elites from Halo 2 made a return WITH the new designs to add some variation and if you added in Halo Reach's leathery Elites and I would have said it was perfect. That way you could actually use the excuse of "there's multiple races of one species". Halo 5 nailed the covenant vehicle and equipment look. That stuff actually looks alien.
The UNSC in both games? Heh, no. The art style in 4/5 works fantasticly with Reach's designs. Look at Jun's in Halo 5. It's Bungie's functional-looking design in a new environment that isn't in a state of perpetual darkness and where people can't take care of what they wear. They look better than they did in Reach by a long shot. Why aren't we designing our armour like that? They're trying to sell to me that Venerator is designed for stealth operations, but what is stealthy about it? It's so sharp and overly complex! That's more alien looking than the COVENANT OF ALIEN RACES!
I 100% agree with the Forerunner stuff though. 4/5 nailed it but overuse the same few colours and all of that floaty stuff.
EpicCreeper HD k
Even though Halo Reach did some very sinister shit to the series it did have the best art. The armor was breath taking and the medals... oh my fucking god the medals were overwhelmingly beautiful.
Then 343 had to fuck up both of those things. Yeah they have good intentions but why?
Yeah I loved Reach's designs for armour, they felt like realistic and the battledamage on the armour make it feel so much more real. Though I did not like some of the designs of the weapons, I did really like the style
I also dont really like Halo 4's design. I like some aspects, some armour pieces look realistic, but most just flat out looked like a kids sci-fi fantasy or as if it belonged in an anime, but I also like some weapon redesigns (battlerifle and the Warthog).
Not going to cover Halo 4, fuck Halo 5
CrazyDutchguy I can respect Halo 5 as a good game but both of those games are the most ugly things I've seen. There was absalutley no reason to vandalize the medals and armor the way they did. just look at the thumbnail and look at the grunt on the right. No charm and no class.
I liked the look of Halo Reach's medals but there were too damn many of them, medals used to feel special but now you get more medals than kills in Halo games and I think that's ridiculous
RepresentWV You wanna say Halo Reach has too many medals? wait till you play Halo 5. But I do agree with you medals should be treated as rewards and not indicators of what you've done
isaiah nguyen 343 made reach bungie just funded it
halo reach was the peak in artstyle imo
cory in da hus halo 3
I agree. My only real gripe with Halo Reach’s art: the Brutes. They looked cool, but I felt like they could have furthered the look from Halo 3 and added more.
andrew I disagree. My first Halo game was the first. So, that tosses that: “fake fans” thing out the window. Even though it’s all opinion, it’s fine to like either. Though, I feel Reach takes Halo’s art and expands on it, which is why I like it.
Reach was the peak period.
That's because you're a kiddie who played Reach first. Halo 1-3 IS HALO. Reach is not. And 4 and 5 should be burned, and the people responsible need to be fired and beaten in the streets.
1:32 you mean they looked like real guns?
Nokachi yep
Man in halo 3 the armor looked like plastic and some of the weapons looked like plastic too
@@bigboi9711 at least the armor doesn't look like crap like it does in 4 and 5
@@JayPlusForerunner never said halo 4 and 5s armor looked good in the first place…… just said 3s armor looked really plastic like. That why I like halo reach and infinite’s approach to armor a lot better
@@bigboi9711 yeah I know what you meant. I guess I see what you're saying. Some of the armors for 3 do look a little plastic like i guess
Reach was my favorite, it looked more realistic
Christian M reach is the best.
true that my friend true that
Christian M I enjoyed all but halo reach is my favorite
still. (only multi-player in 4 and 5)
I would like this comment, but you have 117 likes. I think that Halo Reach is still my favorite Halo game.
Halo Reach was the last good halo game and one of my favorite games.
halo reach and under that is the best grun designs. halo 4 and above have the worst designs for every character.
There are some spartans that are pretty cool
Lance fisher tell me which
Fernando Rodriguez Literally every spartan design in Halo 5 looks better than the old spartan design.
Jeffrey Koontz Then you must be new to something like halo
Fernando Rodriguez off the top my Buck's spartan armor was pretty sweet
I thought halo reach was perfectly fine. But halo 4 was too much for me
Right right
At least the new jackals look better than the old ones.
>Halo 4 is much better than Halo Reach and Halo 2
Literally how
I have no explanations for reach but he probably REALLY hates jackal snipers.
@@dylanb4494 lol they're nasty and annoying
Depends on how you look at it. Designs on weapons is better in 4 then reach and 2 but world design in 4 is bad
@@dylanb4494 Don't you mean Halo 2
The story itself in halo 4 is so good that it becomes a valid argument imo.
I hate everything about 343's art design but I have to disagree with you I LOVED! reaches art design. The gritty worn art design has stuck with me every sense and It just makes halo feel more military and badass.
I agree I always felt like the covenant was basically just smooth and sleek alien islam (from medieval times, not modern times) and reach kind of captures it perfectly.
Spartan Négué no
Spartan Négué The pelican simply can't fly due to it's design,
The warthog looks toyish,
The weapons look generic and modern
The scorpion is actually pretty good
Heck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!
Your just whiner Alex lunch the Worthhog looks like a real off-road / military vehicle the Scorpion something out of the 2558 era the pelican looks like something we can design and you said it can't move it's a forge prop and the weapons look badass okay that's all
halo reach is my favorite style I like the elites
and I'd just like to state that you are completely wrong that halo 4 is better than reach and 2. not only is it an extremely unpopular opinion it's strait up wrong. I'd also like to say that the real mindless people are the people who like 343 games and them trying to make halo call of duty
TheMad Dog the elites looked cool, but their mechanics of how they move and react on the battlefield was bad. they were BULLET fast and it was just pathetic, felt like you were fighting skirmishers with overshields and an ability to melee you to death lol . in terms of how an elite should run and move etc , the CE elites did it the best
TheMad Dog
I also agree that he is wrong about 4 being better than 2, but it's his opinion and he could hate on the popular opinion as much as he wants just like you are
Halo 2 Anniversary art style is my favorite
The elites looked good in Reach, I agree with the video though regarded the complex designs though.
LNG : I want 343 to make halo games gritty
Halo reach : I am gritty
Also LNG : I like H4 more than reach and halo 2
Me : You should visit a doctor
Halo Reach had the best aesthetics, not too simplistic but also not too complex.
Adriel Klein Halo Reach had such a grim gray look.
Love the soundtrack, story was decent, and the level designs were ok not great but not bad. Decent Halo game, but the gameplay was completely ruin by the poorly designed weapons, worst weapons in any Halo game.
Adriel Klein halo 1 was my favorite :3
@@jerome0929 I disagree
@@jerome0929 The tone of the entire game was grim and gray so I think it fits.
@@jerome0929 The weapons were fine you jsut didn't like bloom. The gritty, darker look was perfect for Reach. Everyone who was a Halo fan knew what happened to Reach, we knew how it would end from the start. The art style reflected the fact that this was a war we were going to lose, everyone would die in the end, no hero to save the day, but heroes who would give their lives to buy a chance for others. The art style looked more realistic, more detailed, but still looked like Halo. If Halo never updated it's graphics we'd be playing fortnite.
"halo 4 is better then halo reach" your opinion doesn't matter anymore.
Guled it actually does.
LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment No, it actually doesn't.
I made the batman face when you said that.
biza0vs0goten ?
That comment was to OP
The design of the elites in halo 4-5 are downright disgusting. How could they fuck up after the amazing Reach Elites
I'm still upset Bungie gave us the skirmishers then nothing was ever done with them again.
Plus the new jackals looked like fish or something, not birds.
i want to put pitou's ears in my mouth Field Marshall Armor 😍😍
i want to put pitou's ears in my mouth they look really good in halo 4/5
megaman7501 I like the new design but the anniversary versions looked good too
megaman7501 yea that's true
literally everything you described you didnt like about halo reach’s design was why i loved it’s design. halo ce, 2 & 3 looked like videogames. reach looked like halo if it was real. best halo ever.
I would rather my video games looked unique and cool rather than “real”
@@gavo7911 exactly. Stylistic art style > realism
halo reach looks very unique, just look at the sky and tell me it looks real@@gavo7911
I personally didn't mind the jump from Halo 3 to Reach, but the jump from reach to 4 was too much. I loved the Grunt design in reach but, Halo 4 didnt really carry the same vibe. Same with the shotgun. I could get over the sniper but it just isn't the same compared to Halo 1 and 2. (Halo 2 was my fav)
Halo 2 is one of my favorites too; it and Reach, probably :)
Agreed! The Halo Shotgun had such an iconic design that should not be changed (same With the Rocket Launcher), so I really hates when they made that light gray overly complicated thingy.
+Aagerds same
Well the Halo Reach and Halo 3 Grunts are relatively the same
To be honest, in my opinion I didn't mind the art style in Halo 4. But the art style for Halo 5 looks too cartoony to me and really pushed me away from Halo 5.
Halo is going through an identity crisis. I have hope for the next Halo to incorporate innovative changes that maintain a more... Halo-esque formula for Narrative, Coopertive, and competative play.
ikr
Yes, but the campaign is already ruined. There is not coming back from the campaign unless you ditch it.
TheAgentTexas Ruined...? The narrative may have changed greatly in it's delivery and execution, but a genuinely good episode of post-Bungie Chief is liable to be immediately recognized. If Halo as a series was ruined, I highly doubt there would be as much of the community expressing frustration and a desire for something better as they are now. Some core fans clearly still care and that is enough room for something great to be made, enjoyed and recognized by Halo fans abroad.
Benny Alves Let me elaborate what I mean cause I think there was a little miss interpretation. The campaign was great until halo 4. They should ditch the story from 4 and 5. The older stuff is still very good stuff which is why people (like me) are expressing frustration with the current state of halo. We love the old theme and art style. 343 has not done a good job at all of keeping the theme and art of past halo. Changing the gameplay is one thing but the core underlying elements of the story is not acceptable.
The theme of the original trilogy, I would say, is exploration and mystery. You have this weird but amazing sci fi world that is just amazing to explore for the same reason why someone would want to explore the dwemer ruins in skyrim. This is also what brings in the mystery aspect of not fully knowing what you are exploring but then you have these opposing factions fighting over the mystery. In halo 4 I do not get the sense of exploration or mystery. All i get is that there is a bad guy who hates us and we need to stop him.
Benny Alves I think in halo 6 they should make the RB and LB buttons at the same time for Xbox switch through the Halos. I'm not sure how they would make the suppressed in halo 1,2, and 3 tho.
Personally, Halo Reach was favorite design but I agree they took it to far in Halo 4.
No Commentary Gameplay Halo 5 really did it. Halo 4 was eh. But Halo 5 is HELL to the NO.
How do you want it to become more gritty when the perfect blend of simplicity and grittiness was halo reach yet you have this hot take that halo reach art style is mediocre
exactly
ThuggaThuggaBaby it’s his opinion just chill
@@Dwyer-nl9fz its a paradoxical opinion did you even read my comment. He literally contradicts himself
@@Dwyer-nl9fz that's vastly different from saying "you know I prefer these things in X
(x has all the things preferred by the person) but I hope they don't make Y like X because I didn't like the things in X" do you see how contradictory that statement is? yeah it's a matter of opinion but people are equally as welcome to call your opinion fallacious when they perceive it to be so
ThuggaThuggaBaby I was just saying it’s his opinion. If he doesn’t like halo reach’s art Direction thats fine. Not saying you have to agree with it. I was just stating you should respect it.
I think my biggest gripe with the new art style sits with the marines. Not only have they changed the way they look, but you rarely, RARELY fight alongside them and when you do they suck ass! Fighting along marines in Halo 3, especially on Tsavo Highway and The Storm was awesome!
Hell, I bet they just looked at their marines and be all like "they look good enough." They didn't even finish the Spartan IVs.
117Oddlink - yeah, hah "looks fine to me!"
Wheres the cod piece on the Spartans? Why is it removed 343?
Slender Man 186 The Spartan looks naked without a dick protection. ;)
Halo Reach looks amazing. Best looking Halo to date.
Simon Petrikov um, you may want to look at halo 2 anniversary or halo 4-5
Halo 2A sure but I still like Halo Reach's look better over all. Halo 4 and 5? Ha! Those look awful. Like bright cartoons with too smooth of textures.
Halo 4-5 look too much like a cartoon with bright colours, the previous halos had a nice militaristic feel
Simon Petrikov Nah
Totally agree, with the grit and the scratches and gear that wasn't too pronounced and was designed to be practical down-to-earth military gear, plus a lot of the enemies looked more within the realm of possibility than in 4-5. Some of the new armors seemed cool in the new ones but they lost me on Halo 4's chicken neck Spartans. ugh. I'll say this, some of the mechanics in the new ones seem like a step in the right direction, but the art is not really my taste at the moment.
halo reach was before the events of halo one so the weapon looked older
Exactly everyone and thing on the Pillar of Autumn had the latest tech, including Master Chief
Cornered Fox possible argument is different locations and branches of UNSC
It would definitely be a logistics nightmare for sure. Something the game devs in all honesty didn't really think about.
You can relate it to all the variants of the M4s and M16s, drastically different designs depending on the version. However they all share the same ammunition 5.56.
***** I did more research into it and honestly it was just an art design decision lol, they didn't really care for the timeline of it.
oh huh
“I don’t like the way halo reach looks”
Me:throws computer away
Insert Ron Swanson meme
Ok ok ok, but have you seen the Halo Reach brutes? They look like tattooed fat orcs.
Halo reach's elite design is the best in the series imo
That Blackguy74 same
Which is your favorite kind of elite?
the H2 elite body design was better, but the HR armor is better
Yeah, the elietes prior to reach were hunchbacked and looked weird. Samw with 343s elites
that's how they ware supposed to look, but the H2A weren't that hunchbacked when the stood up fully.
I hope they go back to the old style.
I hope they just keep the HW2 artstyle in Halo 6 and beyond.
Spartan K4102 FUCK YEAH
Yeah. But the reason why i think the grainy look of H2 couldn't work for 4&5 is because humanity was coming out of the faulty defense and into attack.
Which means they actually get a break to look nice and clean & repair themselves up.
too late. it'll mess up the lore
This is the perfect time to go back, as much as I hate it, with overlord Cortana being a thing and her ability to track Forerunner technology, the U.N.S.C might have to be forced to use older equipment than what they've been using (a lot of the newer technology uses Forerunner technology if I remember correctly).
I hate the look of the marines in halo 4 and 5!!!!
yeah im with you my bro, 343 and microsoft really fucked the game's art style, bungie did there best and it looked really cool in my perspective
TankerGaming 3000 halo wars 2 e3 trailer that's how they should look
+Brent Borders (borders90) I can't call that shit "Marines"...
Brent Borders They look like the dudes from earth defense force
Brent Borders ikr
Late night: I want 343 to make grittier halo games
Reach: *is a grittier halo game*
Late night: HALO 4 IS BETTER THAN HALO REACH AND 2
also late night: I DONT LIKE HALO REACHS ART STYLE
Me: wtf
Halo fans in a nutshell. If it’s not a copy/paste of Halo 3 it’s trash.
@@thelouster5815 no halo fans want everything to be halo 2
@@mccoolschool3605 Halo 3*
More like a mash up of halo 2'halo 3'halo reach custamizashon,and halo 3 odst odst's whats the plorel for odst
I really hope the US Army does make that type of tank...hahaha
Ducain23 Everyone would just give up on life if the US replaced their tanks with Robo-Dogs
Ducain! weren't you that guy Late night and a bunch of others told me to subscribe to? Anh why not, my treat!
Trumps #1 priority.
"To defeat Isis, we will build the greatest army of sabercat mechs the world has ever seen. let's make America great again."
Favyn Dude... have you ever watch the old show called Zoids?? I would totally have that as my army :D
ikr
"This is not a Bungie vs 343 contest" but if it was... Bungie would win it...
Spethman Jones 100%
Fuck no, they'd get lootboxes in my halo. Already have req packs.
have you seen destiny
Definetly
a lot of problems in destiny come from the contract that bungie had signed with activision, which basically completely destroyed their original design intentions for destiny. In any case it's not really excusable, but at the same time the development story of destiny is a tragedy in its own right.
I personally loved the Reach Spartan armor, the mass produced, military look made sense for a group of Spartan III's
+FNG ™ okay fuck off.
"Halo 4 was better than Reach and 2"
No it wasn't.
Let's look at Halo 2
Halo 2's story introduced us to the covenant side of things, introduced us to the arbiter, the prophets, and showed us what type of civilization the covenant had. The actions that happened in halo 1 have a direct cause for Halo 2. As in, we see arbiter getting punished for the destruction of the halo ring. While the humans are celebrating, the covenant is acting out punishment for their defeat. Without the Arbiter, we wouldn't have a protagonist to introduce us to the covenant. The shipmaster would also be scraped. Not to mention we wouldn't have playable elites. If the arbiter was non-existent, in Halo 3 we would be fighting villain's we know next to nothing about. Obviously because of time restraints, certain elements of the game were broken. Like Legendary difficulty. But the game still was amazing.
The multiplayer was fun, and hectic at certain points, I feel as if it was another key element that was bringing people together to play halo.
Okay. Let's look at reach.
Reach's story was beautiful. It's the only setting based story I know. reach is the main story. And noble team is a side story. The characters seemed like stereotypes, but would sometimes deviate. Like Carter. He's supposed to be the Commander, always going for the mission. But in the intro on Long Night Of Solace, we see him listening to what Kat has to say, and actually going along with Kat's plan. Not to mention that before that happens, Jorge and Jun start talking about the situation. Jun asks Jorge who "he's got his money on this time" and Jorge says Kat. Jun then says "you always pick her." And Jorge replies with "she's always had him dialed in." Which means whenever Noble gets into a clutch situation those two go at it. All of Noble's deaths showed us the horrors' of war. These Spartans are seen as invincible beings, but they aren't invincible. Not everyone in war gets a glorified death. People in war have died for their cause and we will never know their name. Not to mention each of their deaths are ironic. The ending perfectly closes out the story, and it leads straight to CE.
The multiplayer may have some annoying elements with armor lock and bloom but that's really it. All the maps are from the campaign which is kind of lazy but it made me feel a part of the Reach story as we were fighting at real places in the timeline. Invasion was one of if not the best game modes in Halo history.
Custom games were amazing. enough said.
Armor customization was the best, the game felt much more militaristic and gritty. The gungnir helmet was and still is one of my favorites. The art style in this game was amazing.
It took firefight, a simplistic gamemode from ODST and improved it. So much customization!
And forge. The best forge in halo, only Halo 5 forge can beat it. You have to play it yourself! So fun. It took Halo 3s forge and improved it.
Okay now let's look at halo 4:
Story was much less relatable, the characters were forgettable, Del rio was terrible, no really funny Lines beside Conan O'Brien's lines in that one mission, shortest campaign, we were introduced to enemies who were just bland robots, and the game had the mist linear veichle sections. And the game restricts you to a certain strategy, Elite melee animations were 10 frames (1/6 second) and projectile tracking was too powerful. You only had the option to take everything out from Range. If you got up close, you were dead.
Multiplayer messed up the sandbox because now you could spawn with certain weapons, and you couldn't just spawn with an AR and Magnum and find your weapons. It tried so hard to be COD.
Forge was the most restrictive that Black Plasma Studios made parody of it. Just watch it. Halo 4 forge is the most restrictive in alll of the games.
Spartan Ops was just meh.
The Art style change was also bad. i couldn't help but feel animosity towards 343 because they hadn't proved anything but that they would change our beloved Halo series.
So no. Halo 4 is not better than 2 and Reach.
couldn't descripe it better, good job dude
@@lynstorm6164 thanks!
PREACH
Yeah im not gonna read all that but Halo 4 isn’t better than them
Dude I appreciate u for writing all this to prove a point 100% AGREE
My opinion on the Lore and Art:
He's right.
PS: Do Half Life 2's Art Style next!
There's beauty in simplicity. Halo 3 had the best artstyle in my opinion, despite my love for halo reach.
Von Steiner the 3,000,000 year old dust in the forerunner areas want to question you
no it didnt. it really didnt, it was reach. reachs art style was perfect for halo.
Even tough 3 is by far my favorite, there's something really special om ODST.I just can't quite put my finger on it.The armor looks the best(in my opinion), and there's a... ...feel to it that sets it apart and makes ODST what it is.
Matheus Rotta
odst had the best atmosphere
3 had the best gameplay
Reach had the best art and customization
2 was a better CE and set the improve this ideology that questionable led to halo 4 & 5
Um reach looked the most realistic it was amazing
Have to disagree on reach, reach is best at all (in my opinion
Agree
In every ones opinion, you mean
Mario Ibarra picazo My favorite too, maybe with exception of ODST I really loved it as well
Yeah, but armor abilities ruined the game
Elites in Reach are too beefy. Nope.
Yeah, halo reach was peak art style
"the elites were more thuggish looking"
they were the opposite, in halo 3 they were big bulky hunched guys in halo reach they stood tall and were more slim
And halo 4 an elite foot is bigger than their head
I love the Reach elites, they look so fucking cool. They way they moved around the battlefield was swift and predator like.
I assume you mean in cutscenes the elites look big and bulky? You don't fight a single elite in halo 3 and the only ones you see are in cutscenes or in 3-4 player co-op
Michael Shumard you see plenty of them during the missions Floodgate and The Covenant. Plus their friendly so u get a better look at them.
@@twotailedfox2369 Hmm i loosely recall that, if its true I probably killed them as well or watched the flood murder them.
I remember when I first killed a Jackal in 343's games. I looked to my fellow Halo veteran friend and asked him: "What the fuck is this Godzilla 1998 thing doing here?"
A species can't have different races? Look at humanity.......
GamingTalk2099 I'm aware about phenotypes and that stuff. Doesn't change the fact a decade long foe showing up looking different is going to surprise me.
+SonicCustomThemes what about the skirmisher......call bungie out on introducing a new jackal variant that JUST showed itself when they hit Reach
GamingTalk2099 They're called something else, and are different enough gameplay wise that I didn't mind.
+GamingTalk2099 you understand that that's just the excuse 343 is using right.... The skirmishers despite looking completely different in reach, still looked like jackals, and fit in. Plus humans still look alike there aren't humans with completely different bone structures running around.
Halo Reach has the perfect style
miguel alfaro good style maybe not some much on the color palate
Yes I wouldn’t say perfect cuz nothing is but is it the best, yes
Cleanest art style yet
Except for the weapon design, I agree wholeheartedly
I agree
Reach had a fantastic art style. My only distaste was the new, downgrade design for the Brutes.
Nah it makes sense imo. Reach brutes are when they were still heavy troopers that were designed to elicit fear in the UNSC ranks. Halo 3 brutes look more like Elites, seeing as they were just put into power to take the Elites' place as the top military species in the Covenant.
I didn't like the look of most of the unsc weapons I like the covenant weapons, the assault rifle and the shotgun
@@cyrusthagreat6649 Pretty sure that doesn't excue that huge brow line than makes them look like a damn t-rex.
Him: More details = NoT HaLo
Also him: More details = hAlo
It’s almost like that’s not the deciding factor and you misinterpreted his points?
@@thebigyes8482 His point is 4 is better than Reach
I loved and thought that halo reaches art was the best of them all
Yes your right thank you somone who agrees
2 years later and this video is making me cringe at myself lol DEFINITELY could have worded and voiced it less aggressively.
Good thing is that this video made an impact :P cant wait to see the old visual style return
Flat Sun Society lol I was thinking the same thing
CONSPIRACY
Dude, don't insult Halo 2, it's heresy.
I'm with you on a bunch of it. The changes was kind of hit and miss. I loved the Spartan's armor sets, but yeah, some were bad. It actually had the best armor, but ODST still had the best "horde mode" which we had been wanting since Halo 1.
Also, I never noticed the watcher face or legs. Also it would fit as a husk.
LateNightGaming this was an incredibly well made video that made it's point very clear in an agreeable and black and white manor, it's well said and expressed in a very human way, unlike the content of Halo 4 onwards per say
"Halo looks like a kids game"
*Plays Fortnite*
Fucking Hypocrites!!
I have a friend that used to hate on Borderlands for looking “like a cartoon”. While he played Minecraft
@@DeputyDeppe minecraft doesn't look cartoony though, borderlands intentionally has a cartoony art style
Underrated comment
@@NiightDJ minecraft is like a modern pixel while borderlands has cartoony
Looks like it worked!
Lol congratulations, your wish came true
Late Night Gaming what worked?
Is infinite going back to original art style?
Thank you LNG. You contributed to Halo's return to form, and how it is meant to look and feel with a bit of new art thrown in. The future of Halo is looking bright!
I loved halo 4!
Creeper
Here is what every halo artstyle is best looking
Marines: Reach
Spartans: Halo 3 and reach
Elites: Halo 3 and Reach
Brutes: Halo 3 and 2
Veichles and weapons: Halo wars 2
Promeatheans: Halo 4 but Halo 5 has some classic things in it
And here are the worst things each artstyle has
Elites: 343 halo (apart from Halo 2A campaign elites)
Assult Rifle: Halo Reach
Spartans: 343 halo
Forerunners: 343 does not look bad but 343 forrunners don't look like forrunners at all
I think Halo Reach Elites looked better
@@Swesher9 I loved the general and ultra but the combat elite is the best
Tbh Halo wars 2 to me, looks like a little toys shooting, for me Halo wars 1 look gud to me
@@moggy_soggy I think Halo wars 2 has improved the classic style
the elites of halo reach seemed more badass, I sincerely hate the elites, I'm not saying that the best elites are those of halo reach, I have only said that they look much more appealing, they seem much stronger and even higher, if I said something that does not convince you, write a comment, I accept any kind of answer, obviously not offensive
Reach is easily my favorite.. I like the armors, level of detail, the fact that Master Chief isn't in it, & everyone (except Jun) dies..It shows that some sacrifice everything & aren't ridiculously overpowered just because fans like you
megashadowdancer1 really man that campaign was a roller coaster of emotions
Chief was in the game
In the pillar of autum cutscene if u hold your stick left you can see chief in a cryo pod
@ugaaa5 yeah ik
Maul not really as every character except for Jorge sucked.
I think reaches art is the best it’s warn and it looks battle hardened
Halo 2 Anniversary Covenant were also on point.
@DarkStarEthan I don't like how the Reach Ultras or Generals look.
that's interesting i found the Reach Ultra Elites to be one of the better designed elites. Halo Reach had the art style i found the best for the game. Gritty and militaristic just like the game.
opinions for you.
DarkStarEthan I think the elites were awful in Reach the beginning of the end for them.
4's design of the Elites makes me want to vomit. I feel the need to put them down not as a respectable threat to the universe, but out of pity from what the Covenant/343 has done to them. Poor suckers- they deserved better.
Damn they look very thuggish deep savage voices and unnecessary big body parts especially the damn head the old school elites are better designed but in reach they kinda became thuggish
The Covenant needed better sunscreen in halo 4, they’re so blistered
Yeah, the old art style is better
Except for those Energy Swords. I love those new ones. Those look like swords that won't stab your arm.
the old sword was fine. its sci fi. realism is allowed to be sacrificed in favor of coolness in some areas
Marshal Arnold yeeeeep 343 fucked it up like always.
ur profile pic looks like gmail xdddd
Halo reach was pretty good. There are three styles in my opinion
Old (great)
Reach(good)
New(NOT GOOD)
And that's why I like the new halo game to go back to the old style
I think Bungie designed Halo Reach with a different yet more realistic art style to convey it as a standalone title, with its own original art style.
I think 343 changed the art style to give Halo 4 its own identity. To let the fans know it was their game at that point, not Bungie's. With that in mind a new art style was required.
Though imo I think they went a tad bit overboard with the realism here. Combined with the addition of sprint it's obvious they were trying to copy CoD or Titanfall
Sprint is used in almost every game nowadays. They are juste following gaming evolution as a whole. Doom was praised for it's old school feel because the dude is always running full speed.
It just makes no sense in today's industry to play as a Spartan that can't run.
#stopnerfingspartans
It makes no sense to have gameplay suffer just to include some pointless gimmick that other modern games use. Sprint can be easily replaced with a higher FOV and base speed if people want to feel like "sanic".
+Yapflip™ no, it can't. Jogging Spartans isn't the same as one that can run.
This ain't 2007, even Bungie introduced it. Get over it
Yes I'm sure an animation should be prioritized over better gameplay for the sake of change and Bungie's decisions are automatically good "cuz lol its bungie xddd". Let's also not forget that newer = better quality.
"A tiny man in a booster seat with fairy wings" -LNH
I. DIED. INSIDE.
“Halo 4 is barely better than Halo 5” is a truer statement than “Halo 4 is WAY better than Halo Reach and Halo 2.”
That's really the only thing you pulled from this 13 minute video about the art style?
@@EchoLocoCJ thats the only thing everyone pulled cus its probably one of the worst video game takes ever
@@Skyfoogle I don't agree with him but it's not the point of the video lol. People just get mad too easily.
i both like 4 and 5 equally.
Halo 4 is way better than Halo 5 and even CE.
Before the video starts here's how I see it.
Halo CE -> Reach seems a natural progression of man-made human military armor that has been improved with advanced technology. With Reach being ranked slightly higher because it looked a little more rugged and less smooth, which gave it a more military feel. A real nice gritty look, yet still futuristic.
Jump to 343 Halo, and it looks way to Alien and "modern" sci fi, where everything has been greeble'd up with way way to complicated intricate details that serve no purpose. It lost the tactical military look in favor for advanced far far futuristic sci-fi which I don't like.
EDIT: I 100% agree with you about the Micheal Bay Transformers designs. I absolutely hate them for the reason you said.
Halo CE to Reach seems like a natural progression of tech?
Do you mean Reach to CE? Reach was set before CE.
You read my mind, Halo Reach felt like a proper military game set in the future but Halo 4 had too many useless details. like the armour looks backwards, not to mention had pieces that looked like they served no purpose like the bits of armour just stuck to the abs of the spartan
George Moose Correct.
+George Moose I believe he was talking from an outside the lore perspective based on the release sequence of each game, because even if Reach is *set* before CE, it still introduced a lot of newer stuff and also because it came out long after they were able to upgrade the tech to run the game too so everything looked nicer.
Here's my Theory:
Master Chief is still in that Cryo Pod and all of the events of Halo 4 and 5 are a simulation that Cortana decided to do due to her boredom?
Make sense since 343 still hasn't explained how Master Chief's armor Surprisingly changed while being in the Pod?
lol that sounds like something!
Cool theory.
If it's a simulation that you say, then HALO 5's story with Cortana betraying humanity would make sense considering she's in a rampant state.
Her rampancy was causing problems in the simulations,making her a villain in that simulation.
But then, I don't know if the majority of the community would like it to the end that way.
DragoXD they did actually, they fucking lame ass excuse was nano bots
Royal Raptor Are they fucking kidding me, let me check.
Edit: Wow, 343 hired the wrong Writers to take responsibility to make a Halo Game.
***** Yah dude its a fucking joke, like they couldn't even start the game off with the same armor from H3 then once Chief gets to the Infinity then give him new armor they had to do a dumb nano bot bullshit
I thought Reach's art style was the best out of all of them, with the only exceptions being the brutes and the Assault Rifle.
Halo 4 and 5 had the art style of Power Rangers meets Titanfall.
Yeah what was up with the brutes? I half expected them to show up in a hair waxing commercial.
Jack Rabbit They ruined the story with that. The brutes in Reach should havr been like the Halo 2 brutes
This is the reason I refused to play Halo 4 and 5, when I first saw the "new" elites I was like •nope•
same man. haven't touched any new halo since reach
They weren't Elites. They were mountain trolls in 4/5.
@DieArmbrust lol maybe
The new elites are a different species/faction
But the swords of sanghelios elites are actually the halo 3 elites on our side but 343 was stupid and made our allied elites look like storm covenant even the arbiter 😩🤦♂️
Well I do have to disagree with you on how Halo: Reach looked. I personally loved the look of it, it seemed more rugged and battle worn than the previous titles. I'm not a big fan of how the "troopers" looked but that's really my only gripe with it. When Halo 4 came out with its new art style absolutely hated it, I hated the new Sprint armor, the look of the UNSC, and most importantly, the Covenant. In Reach I saw the Covenant as this scary, malicious, and tough enemy. Halo 4 somehow made this menacing enemy into this cluster fuck of bright colors and "pew pew" noises. The Prometheans were nothing to write home about, just annoying targets. So that's my 2 cents on the art style and 343's decision making.
Spartan armor*
I do not think the troopers in Reach look massively different to the older ones.
a6ftmexican lol I do agree I mean yea it's nice having that stylish look but having a rugged look would be better, especially if your armor changes as you rank up, making it seem more rugged and scratched which would be a better detail design.
Make the armor detail customize-able.
"Even Killzone doesn't wanna look like Killzone."
The hell is wrong with Killzone all of the sudden? The games have a great art-style, especially Killzone 2.
Can't agree more man, Killzone 2 somehow looks better than many of even today's games.
Halo Anniversary Marines looked fuckin sweet
They really did
You do know that's the halo reach style right?
"I like halo 4 more than halo 2" yeah but, halo 2 has the arbiter, so your feelings are invalid
They are valid, people have right to their own opinions, he could say the same about you if he used the same dumb way of thinking as you.
@@thelowground7741 yeah, totally wasn't sarcasm or anything.
@@spookiepookie3731 offensive nonetheless, and I might add it's not at all my fault for your lack of clarity on the matter.
@@thelowground7741 Should i have to explain myself to some random person on the internet? I think I missed that in the ToS
@@thelowground7741 and if you don't want to risk being offended in a comment section, RUclips is not the place for you.
Halo 4 is better than Halo 2?!?! Wtf bro?
please tell what wrong with halo 4 because it looks kinda better than 2 in art style
dallen12378 Gaming yeah no shit a 2002 or 3 game compared to a 2014 game.
Jorge Silva well THANK you
Sure, it looks more realistic, but watch the video and listen to our complaints. They changed the art STYLE not QUALITY to pander to people like you: People with Call of Duty profile pictures. I don't think Aurora means graphics, though. I'm pretty sure he likes Halo 2 better because of the story. Halo 2's storyline and method of story telling is just... better.
Boo Hop well I said that it looks better in art style in my comment and I'm like halo way better than any COD. I only cod because of zombies and multiplayer
Halo reach was my favorite game to play, the multiplayer was amazing, and the firefight mode had amazing replayability. I loved unlocking new armor and grinding for hours just to get it
Um, Reach had the best art style, it looked more functional & real world and consistent with a world at war. It just was overdone with Halo 4 & had more “look how crazy I can get” & somehow looked less functional, overly curvy, slimy and garish, especially with the Covenant. And yes, lose the floaty bits & shininess of the forerunner characters & structures. Crawlers never made sense to me
Halo 3 has the best art style. Let me guess, you played Reach first, right?
Apollo Alexandre No need to be aggressive. Halo 3’s art style is definitively iconic, and nobody can argue that it’s the most Halo of any of the games. I just think that the more human approach to how the art was done in Reach compliments the story and atmosphere a bit better than Halo 3’s art worked with the campaign- not to say it was bad in any respect, it just felt like the flaws present in the Reach designs added to the fact that humanity didn’t really have its shit together when repelling the Reach invasion, and immerses you more into the “humans fighting for their life” rather than “super soldier destroying alien artifacts on distant worlds”. The Reach approach was a hell of a lot more human based than any prior Halo campaign, so it meshes better. The Halo CE-3 art style just wouldn’t have worked for a game like Reach. You don’t have to like it, but you can’t deny it fits better. Just my two cents.
Personally I find the trilogy halo games to have the best art style. The classic halo games were more vibrant and full of life while halo reach looks kind of washed out and bland. Just my opinion tho
What's halo 4 is better 🎮
The reason reach looked like that was because it was supposed to be less streamlined due to it being earlier versions of the equipment from the later games, which got more streamlined as time went on.
Halo 4 and later has no excuse.
you wow thats better than I explaind that i just seaid it was before
Reach didn’t really take place that far before ce tho. In fact halo reach took place 3 weeks before ce
@@scottmckinny6879 another explanation was different variants of the equipment being used. Remember, a portion of the UNSC on reach were the army and not the navy which is what you primarily bump elbows with.
Lolnope Notgonnahappen that makes more sense
I think I gagged when he said halo 4 was better than reach and halo 2 ( i get it, it is his opinion)
Scott Martin Yeah, that has to be the funniest shit I've heard all day.
funnier than a tiny man in a booster seat?
Campaign sure, but multiplayer no way in hell.
Dylan Brown nah halo 2s campaign and reach was still better than 4 imo
Bungie: "What have you done with my armour?"
343I: "Just some... -complete changes- additions I've made."
Bungie: Indeed
The thing that pissed me off the most in the new art style is the Pelican. It is so ugly now. It's just a mix of a Hind and a potato. The wings turning at 90° for landing, the mini thrusters under the belly, no landing gears, the huge exit ramp... So flawed, it must be a nightmare to fly this thing. (And no I'm not talking about the gunship version). The one used in Halo 2A was fantastic and I'm glad it is in Halo Wars 2 even if I noticed the wings still turn at 90°...
fucking true 100% read my mind its fucking ugly
Also it might just be me or is there less room inside?
It is not. In halo 5 the Chief gets from the cockpit to the bay using a door. You are talking about the gunship version.
Yeah the ramp, ugh, hate it. I mean why can't they just jump out of the back like they did in the old halos.
Honestly, the ramp makes sense to me, because otherwise they have to jump up to get in. Bad for wounded
He probably never played reach OR halo 2
you have good tast my dude
I second both of these motions
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@@jrlgarage yeah his opinion sucks but I still think he played them
Ik this fool did not say halo 4 is better than reach and halo2
Gold ATG halo 4 is fine but it is NOT better then reach or 2
I get that it's your opinion and you have a right to have that opinion but would you please go into more depth on why you think Halo 4 is a better game than Halo 2? I want to see what points you're going to make.
Bob Surviva Story wise I think halo 4 was a masterpiece. It was a much more focused story and more emotional. That said when it comes to badass moments 2 and 3 blow halo 4 out the water (mostly to do with lack of scarabs).
It may be because my first Halo-game was Halo 4 and I like games as long as they have a good story, but I don't have anything against the "new" Halo (I actually like the new forerunner-stile is better than the old). I read the books and played Halo:CE and Halo Wars and what I still think the most amazing thing about Halo and what binds me to this franchise is it's Story. It's the best Sci-Fi Story ever, better than Star Trek, Star Wars or anything (and I'm a big Star Wars fan)
Fartnockle Halo 2’s development is pretty infamous, long story short they were really rushed and were too ambitious, you can look all that up more if you want
fichin butler the game didn't even have to do with Halo's though, being it's a main numbered halo game
Better than Star wars? Let's not get ahead of ourselves here?
The fuck is wrong with killzone's art style? It's badass and heavily themed after world war 2 allied and nazi uniforms. Not to mention extraordinarily unique. No one will ever look at a helghast soldier and say, "is that the new call of duty?"
unique..? Its just a nazi uniform with COMICAL red eyes (as if they couldnt make them visibly evil enough??)
its try hard, comical, blunt, stupid and obviously trying sooooo hard to be edgy and "bad ass"
Killzone is a mediocre franchise that failed because.. well... it was mediocre
and halo 3 spartans are just rainbow toy soldiers made of cheap plastic. Its just space marines with big orange visors. You could twist any words to make something sound bad.
I wouldn't say killzone is try hard or edgy. They know exactly what the helghast were supposed to look like: evil space nazis. That is comical because that is what they were trying to create. Its not try hard to make a game where the bad guys are obvious evil nazis. Wolfestein also has evil (for some missions space) nazis but they aren't edgy and stupid.
And to say killzone is a mediocre franchise is just wrong. It is an old playstation classic series with now seven games spanning its life. When people look back on the ps2 and ps3, killzone 2 and 3 are some of the iconic games known, just like how halo 1,2, and 3 were seen as the pinnacle of xbox/360 games.
are you joking..? Killzone was trying SOOOOO hard to be edgy and cool XD I mean hell the devs wouldn't shut up about how "serious" and "realistic" killzone is (despite the piss poor animation quality) while halo didnt pretend to be gritty, hell yerah it was colorful! :) halo was halo
Killzone isnt remembered as a classic.. you know what is? Uncharted, Resistance and so on.. Killzone had 7 games... one after the other ALL the post killzone 2 games were considered commercial disappointments and user reviewers were almost ALWAYS below average for bad writing, bad controls, and overall.. a mediocre presentation
Killzone is remembered as "that shitty playstation exclusive even Sony was embarrassed of" which is why after killzone shadowfall's HILARIOUS failure, they shelved the series :) killzone is mediocre
No, I am not joking. A link to where Guerrilla games stated that would be appreciated because after looking it up, I can not seem to find anything. And what is wrong with the animations? These are broad vague statements without any examples. And I agree, halo being colorful is halo. My comment before was me making a point on your previous insult. Halo being colorful is halo. Killzone being space ww2 is killzone.
Uncharted, resistance, and "so on" are all good classics. That doesn't mean killzone isn't.
Every killzone after 2 were not considered commercial disappointments. They all did well and reviews were positive. 3 garnered 8-9/10, shadowfall 7-9/10, liberation with 7-8/10, and mercenary not fantastic with 6-8/10.
Controls were just fine. They were different than the average shooter yes, but same with halo. Bad writing? sure, you got me on that one. The voice acting and lines themselves were too cartoonish and fake from the main characters.
Shadow fall was an underwhelming title, but not a hilarious failure. This is because it was a launch title with the all new ps4 hardware. the devs didn't know how to best utilize the new system and they did the best they could. It wasn't a brand new smash hit, but it wasn't a failure. Much like halo 4/5. It was a resurrection of the series taken in a different direction that fans didn't generally like.
easy eevee I love both series. I just want to know why he thinks killzone is so aweful.
“This video is outdated” is a title change I’m glad got to happen.
changed back lol
I loved the way Halo Reach looked, especially the way the MA5 rifle’s design
Exactly the rifle is different in halo combat evolved
chris210racer the MA5 in halo reach is actually another version of the MA5B
WELL, it is back with halo infinite.
343 is combining their looks with bungies
If they combine it it will look cool
At least the Marines in the trailer looked like a mix between Halo 4 & Reach's Marine. It looks really nice.
HowToCameron's younger brother. Halo 3 or Halo Reach art style?
Technically, the Prometheans were a class of Warrior Servants in service to the Didact. They started out as ordinary Forerunners but were composed to give them an edge against the Flood. When the Didact started to run out of soldiers that's when he used humans to make a new army of Prometheans. They are not all human.
I always assumed that crawlers and watchers were composed humans and Forerunners just like the Knights. Was I wrong?
Well in 5 they were forerunner but they were disappointing to me.
Rather take the GOW 4 robots because its more fun.
Watchers, Crawlers and Soldiers were never Human or Forerunner - they were built by the Prometheans.
Lost me at "didn't really like the way Halo: Reach looked."
I think, based on the design styles you like, you favor older graphic styles in general, more simplistic looks, not that there's anything wrong with that, it's beautiful and i appreciate those styles. With graphics only getting better though, things are going to look more realistic and more detailed and not like "mud" to better immerse players. I thought bungie was moving in a great direction with the Halo: Reach graphics update, i wouldn't say redisign because they're basically the same design, but just as you said, more detailed. Halo 4/5 on the otherhand was a redesign and a shit one at that, aside from a few things. Mostly had to do with characters. That's my 2 cents, don't really know why i wrote it but here it is.
At least the simplistic art style looked cool and unique. You don't need worse graphics to make a simple art style look good. Look at Halo 2 Anniversary, Halo Wars 2, and the trailers from Halo Infinite. They all have a relatively simple art style. Even Halo Wars 1 had a simple art style. Halo Wars 2 may have had more details but that's kind of like Reach levels of detail. There's simply too much going on with the art style in 5 especially. It needed to be toned down drastically and that's exactly what what Halo Wars 2 and Halo Infinite has done. We've gone back to the timeless, memorable, awesome art style the franchise originally had that should never have been changed in 4 and 5.
Reach was most certainly a redesign and not simply an update. That's not a bad thing though. The visual style of Reach matched its audio design and its story telling incredibly well but to say that it was a natural evolution of the halo graphic design is simply false.
If I want to decorate a room and make it homely and inviting. I can place a warm oak table that is rounded, polished, and has 3-4 legs that are all curvacious and not imposing.
Your logic is that if I want to make that room even more homely and inviting on a bigger budget - I should buy a table of mahogany. It should be rectangular, six legged, and be engraved and embossed on every inch.
The simpler table doesn't look any less like a table made yesterday than your fancier, grittier mahogany table. It does, however, fit the style of the room I made it for.
What I didn't tell you is that the mahogany table was to be part of an exhibit for a room about medieval wars.
Halo is a Sci-fi military space opera.
Halo Reach was a Military sci-fi space drama.
This aged like milk