I currently have this computer as a dedicated work machine. It's a total powerhouse, with the Xeon processor and everything, but it struggles a bit with large 3D model files. The touch and pen calibration are also pretty buggy on the bottom and left sides of the screen. I pretty much have to use Photoshop in windowed mode to avoid bringing my pen over to the absolute left side, or else the cursor goes wild. Fan noise is loud, too. Being the only PC in a room full of Macbooks is audibly pretty obvious with this one. But I can confirm that the keyboard and touchpad feel great, and light to moderate processing tasks are very snappy. Texturing in Cinema 4D and Blender really makes this thing chug, though. It runs hot at all times, even when just composing emails. You won't notice this when it's sitting on a desk, however. I wouldn't want this computer as my personal workhorse, but as a computer provided by my job, I don't mind it.
Contrail I do have the DreamColor display! Unfortunately, for my line of work (3D model creation for web-based video advertisements), I actually have to keep my main monitors set to sRGB, but I have used the Adobe calibration settings for one print ad, and the color accuracy was spot on. The screen is very clear, and most programs scale to the 4K display with no issues (Photoshop, After Effects, Chrome, Blender, etc). I’ve noticed that Cinema 4D refuses to upscale correctly when used only on the laptop display, but I believe that to be a fault of the program or Windows, not a support issue with the screen. I can’t really speak to the screen’s refresh rate, as I can’t use this computer for gaming, but I’ve noticed no lag or slowdown while drawing in photoshop (unless you consider the crazy stuttering and non-responsiveness I described above as a form of lag). The DreamColor display models also come with a pretty in-depth driver that allows you to really fine-tune your color settings, though I haven’t messed with it much. Hope that helps!
You won't gain much for rendering graphics with this laptop. P2000 ( which I expect you to have in your machine) is comparable to gtx 1050 ish. If you want to render, maybe try using an egpu along with it?
It's a beautiful laptop. Definitely not a device for average consumers with that price tag though. I wish the Spectre series had the same color scheme. I really hate the black and rose gold colors.
I own this laptop and I absolutely love it! I use it mainly for photo and video editing. I have the Dreamcolor anti-glare 4k display and it is absolutely stunning! The pen works great and the battery lasts for days even with intense editing on PS. And btw, just to clarify - mine is the P2000 version. But in order to get that I had to custom order it from HP. It took 1 month to arrive but it was totally worth it!
3 years on and I got a refurbished one with an Eizo 27inch 4K UHD monitor for 750 euros total. That will replace my 12-year old tower PC and hopefully last for the next 12 years.
@@3tech Plenty of power. It plays long 4K x265 hevc videos with ease. Its own screen is good for viewing but nothing special, an external 4K screen is better. If gaming is important: I have no experience with that
As someone with this laptop, just want to say I love it and its fantastic, the screen is amazing and the pen is fantastic too. If you have any questions just comment!
Does yours run extremely loud most of the times? I can’t figure out if there’s something wrong with mine. I even have it placed on a laptop cooling stand and it still seems to run incredibly hot and loud. It scares me a little
@@zachp8752 yeah its quite confusing, when its idling and like 10 chrome tabs open it just becomes randomly loud, I don't have a laptop cooling stand but it just makes a lot of noise at idling, very weird
I bought the top-of-the-line Xeon configuration of this model. Within the first 4 weeks it failed to recognize the windows password twice, forcing me to factory reset. The third time *during* the factory reset it rebooted after downloading Windows updates and suddenly had a BIOS password applied. HP's support suggested I had setup the password myself and refused to honor the warranty on three levels of escalation. So I'm left with a $2,500 paperweight. I used to buy HP for all my employees (20+), but after the experience with this unit and the support response, I'm definitely not buying any HP notebooks ever again. Extremely disappointed.
Thank you so much! I've been researching laptops to replace my 2012 MacBook pro for photo/video editing and graphic design. I clicked the video because I wanted to see your take on the zbook but you went above and beyondbjust knocking it out of the park with your explainations and comparisons to other similar laptops. Thank you so much
The P2000 option was announced back in October 2018. It took several months to actually show up on the US website as a "customizable" option, and the P2000 hasn't shown up in Canada at all. I've made numerous inquiries about the P2000, but HP Canada's sales is absolutely terrible. All they can do is regurgitate what is shown on HP's website. They couldn't even tell me if, let alone when, the P2000 would be available. Since HP does not offer customization in Canada, and the P2000 is a "customizable" option, I'm guessing the P2000 option will not be available here.
Look forward to your inevitable review of the newly announced Acer Concept D Easle Notebook and hear your thoughts on how this compares. This is a nice looking beast.
Yes, the initial price is quite heavy. Keep on looking on the HP Sales pages. At the moment there is a great price reduction up to at the German and Swiss page about this product. If you are located in Germany or Switzerland do not hesitate to contact me.
Looking for a tablet on the road that transforms into an NLE back at the hotel, so here I am. Thanks for taking along for the deep dive with this HP mobile workstation.
There's only one display on the x360 that's anti-glare and as far as I can tell it's only available special order. It's the 4K Dreamcolour Anti-glare 10(8+2)bit 600nit 100% aRGB. An important note is that: Dreamcolour uses 25W average vs 16W average on the non-x360 Studio G5, so it'll gobble battery faster. There is actually room for a 7mm 2.5" third drive, if you option down to the 4 cell battery but I believe HP restricts that to Intel GPU only models. So you could have 6TB+ of storage internally. HP display codes: Doesn't mention = Glossy BV = Bright View = Glossy B-LED = Bright LED = Dreamcolour both BV/AG AG = Anti-Glare = Usable everywhere, Pro Glossy = Apple Users, Bright, Reflective, almost useless outside, distractive, needs high brightness to compensate, more eye strain, and makes bad displays look better. SV = Sure View = Privacy display tech, it can be either AG or BV. If it doesn't say, it's Glossy.
Yes, there is room for a 2.5" SSD - I put one in. However, it's such a *pain* to deal with the dimwits at HP parts - who don't know their front from their behinds - and tell you to order the wrong parts! In any case, I managed to install one (replacing the 6 cell battery with a 4 cell (to provide space for the SSD HD)) and it seems to be working out okay so far... You will need extra screws (HP parts are clueless about that) and the various kits they tell you to buy have excess parts which you have to figure out goes where. Best to check the maintenance manual yourself and don't listen to the HP clueless characters... I can also confirm I have *both* M.2 slots working with Samsung NVME drives + the 2.5" SSD (I think I have the P1000 GPU, btw - the HP Support Assistant just downloaded and installed the control panel for it - but now I cannot find the software anywhere! (It's usually in the taskbar's notification area, but not showing even after installing! (Now found it in the Control Panel) HP simply sucks as compared to Dell with regard to software updates - Dell Command is awesome . (I also have the Precision 5530, but am trying to work with this HP - but I feel Dell's are much more reliable and less finicky)
@@dorabk3993 You will likely need to download the Softpaq downloader app online. HP doesn't tend to preload it unless you get an IT admin box. The support assistant/advisor software will tell you you are 100% up to date while missing numerous updates and downloads. I should make a video explaining how to work the software because it's really great, very powerful with loads of options. You also have to watch there's a recovery disc maker that has a similar name. Don't get me started on HP. I don't know what happened but they are really acting like they are in a daze. What's worse is that I can deal with parts being daft, because the maintenance manual should be great but they are full of issues and PartSurfer is out to lunch on tons of models. So you kinda have to make do. The spec sheet conflicts are amazing to me, specs that are claimed in one area aren't in another. Glad the 4 cell is working out. How's the battery life now? I still have to wonder why the Xeon based ones never have gotten the P2000. I suspect it's because the Xeons are allowed to run much hotter than the i-series. Since one mistake in the video is the single pipe per component, when it's really both pipes are being shared by the CPU/GPU. The bad part is that the i7 gets limited to 15W if you load the GPU so it's lap temp safe. Also not mentioned in the video, if you get the Dreamcolour display, you lose the ability to install the LTE/GPS because the panel has the antennas removed.
@@VEGETAO9000 It s matt (chemical etched), very great display. I analysed it and compared it to the glossy dreamcolor version. The anti-glare version is in every aspect (contrast, colour reproduction etc.) as good as the glossy version. But the antiglare is so much more pleasant to work with. For more information about the screen, contact me.
Hi Lisa, i have this laptop for over a year. seems really good so far and runs with intel i7 processor on it. However I need to ask if it is possible to change the graphic card from a quadro to an NVDIA RTX 3070 because I need to work with the new NVIDIA Omniverse platform and specifically with the Omniverse Create app in it. Is it possible?
Ammm... I don't know the pricing over in the Americas... but over here in the EU... the cheapest "oh don't ask" version cost me a good 1000€ less than a similarly specced Macbook Pro... and, hey, it has a touchscreen+digitizer, too! As for the thing being a rational purchase for a private citizen... yeah my employer didn't bought it for me... but I do like nice machines like this and I'm just dumb like that 😁
I'm surprised by the quality and attention to detail shown by HP here. No apparent Achilles heel in the design, they even managed to keep the temps reasonable without serious thermal throttling which is near-impossible with these intel high core chips. It's expensive but nicely done, HP.
So I'm not computer savvy, but based on your reviews. Would I be better suited to get the HP zbook studio ×360 vs the HP zbook ×2.. as I'm a digital artist, but I'm wanting to add animation and 3D programs to my repertoire?
It's kind of what my dream surface book 3 would be (in HP form), just shy on graphics but with 2 thunderbolt 3 can fix that with an eGPU. I want, I need, I save :p :p Currently suffering at 300 nits brightness on my GS65, that 600 nit dream-colour, 4k to boot is too fantastic!!!!
@@slehernik dont worry, its only on some models, the G4 variant is on the list and that makes it funny, you can check here, they also provide a tool batteryprogram687.ext.hp.com/
Great video. I love the zbook studio line (way better than the dell xps if you ask me), currently with a zbook studio g4 dreamcolor and I love the display. Can I ask about the cylindrical hub (tb3 I would guess) you showed for a second. What is the model for that ?
@@SIVERITOO I have used quite a few laptops recently, XPS 9570, MacBook Pro 2018, Zenbook Pro UX580GE and UX550GE and UX550VE (I think I have an ebay addiction :)). and in comparison the Zbook Studio G4 is above average in terms of cooling. all thin and lights will throttle if you use CPU and GPU 100% at the same time, but for professional work the G4 keeps its all-core turbo and it is relatively quiet.
@@SIVERITOO Just to add, there is a catch with dreamcolor models as to use the dreamcolor app (pre-built color profiles) you have to run on dedicated graphics only (BIOS setting) that will hurt battery life and fan noise. solution? I use my own color profile calibrated, and run on hybrid graphics.
I have another, recent, 15" Windows notebook with 4K touch screen (core i7 and Radeon Vega). When I run it via a TB3 port replicator that drives an external 4K display and external audio, that takes mouse, Ethernet, keyboard inputs and a couple external 10 Gbps USB-C drives, then, even then, it starts hissing within 2 minutes of higher res video content. I had hoped these type of machines could replace a desktop machine, but they can't. Lightroom and Photoshop are relatively fast, but somewhere there are bottlenecks: cooling bottlenecks, fan noise, video power. And then we suffer from software updates that one time do video well and next time start breaking video up after a couple days not rebooting. Relative to price, I would expect more maturity. Apparently it is bells & whistles over basics, in this market segment.
It is really helpful. Is HP Z book studio x360 G5 work station model is available? If yes please let me know. What’s the high level comparison on Zbook studio 360 mobile workstation and HP Zbook Firefly 15 G7 mobile workstation. Thanks
Does the Quadro P1000 worth over a GTX 1660ti for Industrial Design works? In my uni there is a G5 sale for ~1200$ but the Lenovo Legion Y540 is around the same price, but it has a gtx 1660ti. The HP's built quality is much better, but I didn't find anything about how the GPU benchmarks are translates in real life, like what is the limitation of the P1000, a.k.a. "how complex 3d model it can handle?".
Having a tough time deciding between this and the Zbook X2. I know the X2 uses EMR and this uses AES. Does the X2 have less latency than the Studio X360?
Yes, the X2 has less latency. If have both devices. With changing the "pen settings" and activate to use it more like a mouse you can reduce the initial latency. I prefer thex X360 for my work. If you need more information, do not hesitate to contact me.
@@brianclayton1872 I ended up holding off. I am I school again so depending on my program I narrow down to I maybe be forced into an apple product haha, we will see.
@@powpronto Hi powpronto, maybe this video will help you in your decision: ruclips.net/video/fWV6jrihRsQ/видео.html . I am using now the x360 all day and I am quite happy with the accuracy of the AES pen. If you woul live close to South Germany or Switzerland we could arrange a testing that you can compare the x2 with the x360. Cheers, Markus
I was about to moan at how dreadful HP's UK online store was, but while unfamiliar (years since last ventured there) it's easy enough to get to a rather good configuration page. And have to note it does list P2000s for this x360 G5! Eye-watering price, but comparable to Dell or Lenovo in the workstation bracket. Didn't click buy.
if you really want to draw you want to separately buy one of the Wacom Cintiq drawing monitors, they finally brought out a far more affordable model called the Cintiq 16, not sure of US price but its $850 AUD Student pricing in Australia and pair it with any decent laptop.
HP ZBook X2 as mentioned: ruclips.net/video/oSbk5Lc3wGU/видео.html Samsung Galaxy Book: ruclips.net/video/guI5rzotiAM/видео.html Or the old Samsung Notebook 9 Pro: ruclips.net/video/VFT4ZM_wfLY/видео.html Or new Samsung Notebook 9 Pen. All of the above use Wacom EMR I believe the new Notebook 9 Pro (2019) uses Wacom AES. All of the HP Elitebooks that have pen support typically use Wacom AES I believe. So the HP business line, and ZBooks (design / workstation line?) use Wacom, while the consumer line (Spectre x360) use nTrig. Wacom EMR is the best for drawing. Wacom AES is a bit nicer than nTrig apparently.
Aside from the Lenovo Yoga 730 15" (which I hope will be coming with a GTX 1650 later in the year), this is the only convertible on the market with some form of end user serviceability and the most powerful convertible. The difference between this and the 730 15" is that the 730 15" uses U series processors (it gets impressive performance out of that U series) and this uses H series processors. Also, 730 15" has one RAM slot you could upgrade yourself and one SSD. This has two RAM slots and two SSDs. But it all depends on workflow. If you absolutely don't need 6 cores, I'd suggest rolling with the quad core variant of this machine, 1080p panel and P2000 (if you could find it) as that would strike the best balance between price and performance. The 4K panel is gonna be a hit to battery life, but it still gets decent battery life for a 4K panel.
I looked up the price for this laptop, it’s much cheaper than some of the mid range gaming laptops and dell xps and all. Maybe it’s because of where I live.
I would love to see you guys review a librem 13 or 15 laptop. Because those seems like solid computers, but there's just not many reviews about them and barely any dive into things.
I'm starting to hate slim designs. No one needs this thin laptop. I like to feel to touch to grab my devices. When I see something thin I can't be sure what really to do with it. Maybe I can put it on my trinket table for some good view.
Hi, were you able to test the difference in performance between battery and ac power? I am always wonderning if there is a possibility to get the same results on battery as on power adapter.
@@andrethedias This brings me to a conclusion that if one is looking for a computer that can perform very well in both scenarios (battery/power) then on option is MBP, Windows laptops evidently have shortcomings. My other idea would be Linux based laptops like System76 or similar.
@@andrethedias As long as any of those computers can provide same experience on battery and when connected to power I can try... I was thinking of Razer - however I am not a gaming type, more Workstation type
In my tests, it is possible to get the same performance out of the X360. Having a i7-8850h and dreamcolor 4k display (50% brightness): it run out of battery after 2 hours with permanent 100% usage of all 6 cores at more than 3 GHz. I am quite impressed.
@@andrethedias This behavior on the dgpu I will have to test. What is you scenario, test medthod to find out the throttling? Is it thermal or power throtteling?
@Mobile techreview.... At 2:12 in the timeline you mention that the 4k DREAMCOLOR version that is 100 percent adobe RGB..and it comes from factory calibrated so color is pretty accurate and perfect for production and film work.. BUT DONT YOU WANT ADOBE SRGB FOR THAT?
The amount of colors it can display on the screen is something different from the precision with which it does; A good calibration of the monitor helps you take out the most of your color palette. (Actually, hp dreamcolor displays have a billion-color gamut, which is even wider than adobe rgb, other than the calibration she mentioned)
I'm surprised that she mentioned it doesn't thermal throttle because I have the standard version of this without the convertible screen and it throttles like crazy in Premiere Pro. CPU often throttles to 1.5ghz, even with fan speed at 100%. Very disappointed in this laptop.
$1,890 bucks for it. I have a mac and to be honest i hate my Mac. I can't make music with it and its starting to slowly slow down. I barely have it for 2 years and i take very good care of it. Since it cost me $2,320 bucks.
Thank you. Two base questions for future videos, please! 1. What are the ranking of the top 5 laptop brands? And why? 2. The top 5 desktop brands? And why? Much appreciated!
Any thoughts on the FHD 1080p model? I'm looking at it here in Australia, with i9-8950HK, Quadro P2000, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD.. and it works out slightly cheaper (around $5,100 AUD) than the non-DreamColor 4K model with the E-2186M, 32GB, 1TB SSD... I'm not really a 'content creator'. My use case is, I'm after a powerful 2-in-1 for general use, development, running VMs (homelab type stuff) etc. I'm torn between 4K and 1080p. The brightness on both seems similar, sRGB similar, AdobeRGB is around 62% on FHD, 77% for this model.. Thinking maybe I go with the 1080p display with higher spec, which should also help improve battery life -- I'll mostly be using Linux too, so wanting to avoid scaling issues. I suppose I could do some content creation on the side if I decided, or get an external 4K monitor. I can't find the ZBook in store anywhere, so not sure how the 1080p display looks compared to the 4K panel.. I haven't seen the DreamColor model available here, it appears to be a custom build option through HP, so I would have to get a quote -- and I'm guessing it will be much pricier.
Great Review. If anyone wants to see a video of me using the ZBook x360 to paint a digital painting in Photoshop, it's on my channel. I used the right hand to paint with and the left to navigate through the image.
A laptop should not be called studio unless is has extra special microphones and webcams. An iPad pro can use Lumafusion now to edit 4k video faster than most of these powerhouses.
I currently have this computer as a dedicated work machine. It's a total powerhouse, with the Xeon processor and everything, but it struggles a bit with large 3D model files. The touch and pen calibration are also pretty buggy on the bottom and left sides of the screen. I pretty much have to use Photoshop in windowed mode to avoid bringing my pen over to the absolute left side, or else the cursor goes wild. Fan noise is loud, too. Being the only PC in a room full of Macbooks is audibly pretty obvious with this one. But I can confirm that the keyboard and touchpad feel great, and light to moderate processing tasks are very snappy. Texturing in Cinema 4D and Blender really makes this thing chug, though. It runs hot at all times, even when just composing emails. You won't notice this when it's sitting on a desk, however.
I wouldn't want this computer as my personal workhorse, but as a computer provided by my job, I don't mind it.
Do you have the DreamColor display by chance? I'd like to know how it is first-hand and info is scarce online.
A cpu underclock might help a bit
Michael Pujos I actually had not considered that - I’ll look into it, thanks!
Contrail I do have the DreamColor display! Unfortunately, for my line of work (3D model creation for web-based video advertisements), I actually have to keep my main monitors set to sRGB, but I have used the Adobe calibration settings for one print ad, and the color accuracy was spot on. The screen is very clear, and most programs scale to the 4K display with no issues (Photoshop, After Effects, Chrome, Blender, etc). I’ve noticed that Cinema 4D refuses to upscale correctly when used only on the laptop display, but I believe that to be a fault of the program or Windows, not a support issue with the screen.
I can’t really speak to the screen’s refresh rate, as I can’t use this computer for gaming, but I’ve noticed no lag or slowdown while drawing in photoshop (unless you consider the crazy stuttering and non-responsiveness I described above as a form of lag). The DreamColor display models also come with a pretty in-depth driver that allows you to really fine-tune your color settings, though I haven’t messed with it much.
Hope that helps!
You won't gain much for rendering graphics with this laptop. P2000 ( which I expect you to have in your machine) is comparable to gtx 1050 ish.
If you want to render, maybe try using an egpu along with it?
Those high end HP laptops look sooo nice lately. And pack a punch too.
Thank you for that review. Tired of people reviewing gaming laptops like we ALL want to waste our lives living in virtual reality.
It's a beautiful laptop. Definitely not a device for average consumers with that price tag though. I wish the Spectre series had the same color scheme. I really hate the black and rose gold colors.
Perhaps a comparison between this and the Dell Precision 5530 2-in-1 and this? Maybe throw in a P1 for fun
I would love to see a review of the Dell Precision 5530 2-in-1
or even better, a smackdown between the Dell and the Surface Book 2
I own this laptop and I absolutely love it! I use it mainly for photo and video editing. I have the Dreamcolor anti-glare 4k display and it is absolutely stunning! The pen works great and the battery lasts for days even with intense editing on PS. And btw, just to clarify - mine is the P2000 version. But in order to get that I had to custom order it from HP. It took 1 month to arrive but it was totally worth it!
Same with me, I love mine. The antiglare Dreamcolor screen is fantastic. One of the best screens you can get.
Doe's the anti glare screen work well outside on a sunny day??
i got this laptop used on ebay last month. 1080p screen, xeon-2176, 1x16GB ram, 1TB nvme, quadro p1000, got it for 500. what a friggin steal
3 years on and I got a refurbished one with an Eizo 27inch 4K UHD monitor for 750 euros total. That will replace my 12-year old tower PC and hopefully last for the next 12 years.
Hey can i ask how it handles everyday normal tasks in 2024?
@@3tech Plenty of power. It plays long 4K x265 hevc videos with ease. Its own screen is good for viewing but nothing special, an external 4K screen is better. If gaming is important: I have no experience with that
As someone with this laptop, just want to say I love it and its fantastic, the screen is amazing and the pen is fantastic too. If you have any questions just comment!
What configuration you have? Where did you buy it?
Does yours run extremely loud most of the times? I can’t figure out if there’s something wrong with mine. I even have it placed on a laptop cooling stand and it still seems to run incredibly hot and loud. It scares me a little
@@SergioRodriguez-lp5jq I have the i7 8750h with 32gb ram, P1000, 1tb nvme sad configuration
@@zachp8752 yeah its quite confusing, when its idling and like 10 chrome tabs open it just becomes randomly loud, I don't have a laptop cooling stand but it just makes a lot of noise at idling, very weird
it hasnt troubled me enough to call HP though
I bought the top-of-the-line Xeon configuration of this model. Within the first 4 weeks it failed to recognize the windows password twice, forcing me to factory reset. The third time *during* the factory reset it rebooted after downloading Windows updates and suddenly had a BIOS password applied. HP's support suggested I had setup the password myself and refused to honor the warranty on three levels of escalation. So I'm left with a $2,500 paperweight. I used to buy HP for all my employees (20+), but after the experience with this unit and the support response, I'm definitely not buying any HP notebooks ever again. Extremely disappointed.
Use it with linux
@@noble_lime If I could I would. The BIOS is not letting me boot anything without that password...
@@joergaldinger did you tried 0000 as password. See the manual or contact hp for password
Even 4 years later, this laptop is still a BEAST!
ZBooksa are super awesome, like this channel, like Lisa :)
It would have been nice if HP offered the Spectre 360 15 inch with dream cast 100% Adobe as an option this is nice though
Thank you so much! I've been researching laptops to replace my 2012 MacBook pro for photo/video editing and graphic design. I clicked the video because I wanted to see your take on the zbook but you went above and beyondbjust knocking it out of the park with your explainations and comparisons to other similar laptops. Thank you so much
No throttling at all? That's impressive.
The P2000 option was announced back in October 2018. It took several months to actually show up on the US website as a "customizable" option, and the P2000 hasn't shown up in Canada at all.
I've made numerous inquiries about the P2000, but HP Canada's sales is absolutely terrible. All they can do is regurgitate what is shown on HP's website. They couldn't even tell me if, let alone when, the P2000 would be available.
Since HP does not offer customization in Canada, and the P2000 is a "customizable" option, I'm guessing the P2000 option will not be available here.
Look forward to your inevitable review of the newly announced Acer Concept D Easle Notebook and hear your thoughts on how this compares. This is a nice looking beast.
Earned yourself a subscriber! Love your quality and technical knowledge.
I could never afford this laptop! but jesus... its BEAUTIFUL
Yes, the initial price is quite heavy. Keep on looking on the HP Sales pages. At the moment there is a great price reduction up to at the German and Swiss page about this product. If you are located in Germany or Switzerland do not hesitate to contact me.
Best laptop I have ever owned
Looking for a tablet on the road that transforms into an NLE back at the hotel, so here I am. Thanks for taking along for the deep dive with this HP mobile workstation.
I got the non x360 version and it’s such a great buy, coming from my old hp envy with a 4500u processor.
Looks and feels good to use
If I had the money I would buy one just for the looks. It's gorgeous.
I have no other choice but to subscribe to your channel, good job!
There's only one display on the x360 that's anti-glare and as far as I can tell it's only available special order. It's the 4K Dreamcolour Anti-glare 10(8+2)bit 600nit 100% aRGB.
An important note is that: Dreamcolour uses 25W average vs 16W average on the non-x360 Studio G5, so it'll gobble battery faster.
There is actually room for a 7mm 2.5" third drive, if you option down to the 4 cell battery but I believe HP restricts that to Intel GPU only models. So you could have 6TB+ of storage internally.
HP display codes:
Doesn't mention = Glossy
BV = Bright View = Glossy
B-LED = Bright LED = Dreamcolour both BV/AG
AG = Anti-Glare = Usable everywhere, Pro
Glossy = Apple Users, Bright, Reflective, almost useless outside, distractive, needs high brightness to compensate, more eye strain, and makes bad displays look better.
SV = Sure View = Privacy display tech, it can be either AG or BV. If it doesn't say, it's Glossy.
Yes, there is room for a 2.5" SSD - I put one in.
However, it's such a *pain* to deal with the dimwits at HP parts - who don't know their front from their behinds - and tell you to order the wrong parts! In any case, I managed to install one (replacing the 6 cell battery with a 4 cell (to provide space for the SSD HD)) and it seems to be working out okay so far...
You will need extra screws (HP parts are clueless about that) and the various kits they tell you to buy have excess parts which you have to figure out goes where. Best to check the maintenance manual yourself and don't listen to the HP clueless characters...
I can also confirm I have *both* M.2 slots working with Samsung NVME drives + the 2.5" SSD
(I think I have the P1000 GPU, btw - the HP Support Assistant just downloaded and installed the control panel for it - but now I cannot find the software anywhere! (It's usually in the taskbar's notification area, but not showing even after installing! (Now found it in the Control Panel) HP simply sucks as compared to Dell with regard to software updates - Dell Command is awesome . (I also have the Precision 5530, but am trying to work with this HP - but I feel Dell's are much more reliable and less finicky)
@@dorabk3993 You will likely need to download the Softpaq downloader app online. HP doesn't tend to preload it unless you get an IT admin box. The support assistant/advisor software will tell you you are 100% up to date while missing numerous updates and downloads.
I should make a video explaining how to work the software because it's really great, very powerful with loads of options. You also have to watch there's a recovery disc maker that has a similar name.
Don't get me started on HP. I don't know what happened but they are really acting like they are in a daze. What's worse is that I can deal with parts being daft, because the maintenance manual should be great but they are full of issues and PartSurfer is out to lunch on tons of models. So you kinda have to make do. The spec sheet conflicts are amazing to me, specs that are claimed in one area aren't in another.
Glad the 4 cell is working out. How's the battery life now?
I still have to wonder why the Xeon based ones never have gotten the P2000. I suspect it's because the Xeons are allowed to run much hotter than the i-series. Since one mistake in the video is the single pipe per component, when it's really both pipes are being shared by the CPU/GPU. The bad part is that the i7 gets limited to 15W if you load the GPU so it's lap temp safe.
Also not mentioned in the video, if you get the Dreamcolour display, you lose the ability to install the LTE/GPS because the panel has the antennas removed.
Does the Anti-glare Dreamcolor display have a glossy of matt finish on the x360 ?
@@VEGETAO9000 As far as I know the AG Dreamcolour is matte finish and it's chemically etched so it feels like paper under the stylus.
@@VEGETAO9000 It s matt (chemical etched), very great display. I analysed it and compared it to the glossy dreamcolor version. The anti-glare version is in every aspect (contrast, colour reproduction etc.) as good as the glossy version. But the antiglare is so much more pleasant to work with. For more information about the screen, contact me.
Hi Lisa, i have this laptop for over a year. seems really good so far and runs with intel i7 processor on it. However I need to ask if it is possible to change the graphic card from a quadro to an NVDIA RTX 3070 because I need to work with the new NVIDIA Omniverse platform and specifically with the Omniverse Create app in it. Is it possible?
Ammm... I don't know the pricing over in the Americas... but over here in the EU... the cheapest "oh don't ask" version cost me a good 1000€ less than a similarly specced Macbook Pro... and, hey, it has a touchscreen+digitizer, too!
As for the thing being a rational purchase for a private citizen... yeah my employer didn't bought it for me... but I do like nice machines like this and I'm just dumb like that 😁
Another good review. Thanks Lisa
I'm surprised by the quality and attention to detail shown by HP here. No apparent Achilles heel in the design, they even managed to keep the temps reasonable without serious thermal throttling which is near-impossible with these intel high core chips. It's expensive but nicely done, HP.
Totally agree about this machine, as I say in my review!
Still can't decide between ZBook Studio x360 G5 and ZBook 15 G5...
Lisa, I could watch your review videos all day. In fact, sometimes I do! 😄
So I'm not computer savvy, but based on your reviews. Would I be better suited to get the HP zbook studio ×360 vs the HP zbook ×2.. as I'm a digital artist, but I'm wanting to add animation and 3D programs to my repertoire?
Could we have a formal smack down between this and the hp spectre x360 15in GTX 1050Ti and Dell Precision 5530 2in1?
Interesting that they have a more Wacom-thick pen for this! Great review, as usual!
Can you please do another video on your top laptops for this year? Like which ones you suggest vs which ones to stay away from?
It's a beautiful machine ! I believe it can be configured with a P2000. Its only competitor is the Dell Precision 5530 convertible
It's kind of what my dream surface book 3 would be (in HP form), just shy on graphics but with 2 thunderbolt 3 can fix that with an eGPU. I want, I need, I save :p :p Currently suffering at 300 nits brightness on my GS65, that 600 nit dream-colour, 4k to boot is too fantastic!!!!
should i go with the normal 4k panel or the dreamcolor one?
will this one also get recalled for battery issues?
What do you mean with "also recalled for battery issues"?
Should I worry?
@@slehernik dont worry, its only on some models, the G4 variant is on the list and that makes it funny, you can check here, they also provide a tool batteryprogram687.ext.hp.com/
Like the Gem cut but why not using them
I wish these specs were more often found in 14 inch bodies. I know it's harder but I dont mind slightly thicker. 😅
Lisa: how about a Smackdown comparison with ThinkPad X1Eextreme or P1?
Agreed!
Meh. They're almost the same
Do you mind tell me the most efficient laptop for video editing?
Greeting from Indonesia :)
Thanks, Mom.
that is the one you have near by
When is the next wave of 9th gen laptops set to release?
Great video. I love the zbook studio line (way better than the dell xps if you ask me), currently with a zbook studio g4 dreamcolor and I love the display. Can I ask about the cylindrical hub (tb3 I would guess) you showed for a second. What is the model for that ?
Does it runs as super hot as all HP machines?
@@SIVERITOO I have used quite a few laptops recently, XPS 9570, MacBook Pro 2018, Zenbook Pro UX580GE and UX550GE and UX550VE (I think I have an ebay addiction :)). and in comparison the Zbook Studio G4 is above average in terms of cooling. all thin and lights will throttle if you use CPU and GPU 100% at the same time, but for professional work the G4 keeps its all-core turbo and it is relatively quiet.
@@SIVERITOO Just to add, there is a catch with dreamcolor models as to use the dreamcolor app (pre-built color profiles) you have to run on dedicated graphics only (BIOS setting) that will hurt battery life and fan noise. solution? I use my own color profile calibrated, and run on hybrid graphics.
Loved this video
Is it good to Premiere Pro? Thanks
Great review, which Wacom pen do you suggest?
do original one for this notebook is great!
I have another, recent, 15" Windows notebook with 4K touch screen (core i7 and Radeon Vega). When I run it via a TB3 port replicator that drives an external 4K display and external audio, that takes mouse, Ethernet, keyboard inputs and a couple external 10 Gbps USB-C drives, then, even then, it starts hissing within 2 minutes of higher res video content. I had hoped these type of machines could replace a desktop machine, but they can't. Lightroom and Photoshop are relatively fast, but somewhere there are bottlenecks: cooling bottlenecks, fan noise, video power. And then we suffer from software updates that one time do video well and next time start breaking video up after a couple days not rebooting. Relative to price, I would expect more maturity. Apparently it is bells & whistles over basics, in this market segment.
It is really helpful.
Is HP Z book studio x360 G5 work station model is available? If yes please let me know.
What’s the high level comparison on Zbook studio 360 mobile workstation and HP Zbook Firefly 15 G7 mobile workstation.
Thanks
Whytf do none of these laptops come with a number pad? Drives me nuts.
Most likely for ergonomics.
Should compare this with the LENOVO P1!
I cannot decide between the 2.
Lenovo thinkpad anyday
Does the Quadro P1000 worth over a GTX 1660ti for Industrial Design works? In my uni there is a G5 sale for ~1200$ but the Lenovo Legion Y540 is around the same price, but it has a gtx 1660ti. The HP's built quality is much better, but I didn't find anything about how the GPU benchmarks are translates in real life, like what is the limitation of the P1000, a.k.a. "how complex 3d model it can handle?".
Wonder if they bother to get rid of these huge bezels in the next iterations...
Having a tough time deciding between this and the Zbook X2. I know the X2 uses EMR and this uses AES. Does the X2 have less latency than the Studio X360?
Yes, the X2 has less latency. If have both devices. With changing the "pen settings" and activate to use it more like a mouse you can reduce the initial latency. I prefer thex X360 for my work. If you need more information, do not hesitate to contact me.
Did you end up making a decision? If so, which one did you go with? I'm trying to decide between the same two.
@@brianclayton1872 I ended up holding off. I am I school again so depending on my program I narrow down to I maybe be forced into an apple product haha, we will see.
@@powpronto Hi powpronto, maybe this video will help you in your decision: ruclips.net/video/fWV6jrihRsQ/видео.html . I am using now the x360 all day and I am quite happy with the accuracy of the AES pen. If you woul live close to South Germany or Switzerland we could arrange a testing that you can compare the x2 with the x360. Cheers, Markus
You are my tech teacher
have a zbook g3 mobile work station and run loads of hyper V pc's on it , would this be a good upgrade to what i have
Anyone else looking for a good 2 in 1 for a decent price for someone doing a bit of everything for personal use?
I was about to moan at how dreadful HP's UK online store was, but while unfamiliar (years since last ventured there) it's easy enough to get to a rather good configuration page. And have to note it does list P2000s for this x360 G5! Eye-watering price, but comparable to Dell or Lenovo in the workstation bracket. Didn't click buy.
Is the CPU soldered on the board?
Where did you buy your shirt?
did they fixed the fan noise?
Great video Lisa.
What is the best current Windows tablet or 2-in-1 for drawing?
if you really want to draw you want to separately buy one of the Wacom Cintiq drawing monitors, they finally brought out a far more affordable model called the Cintiq 16, not sure of US price but its $850 AUD Student pricing in Australia and pair it with any decent laptop.
I have the Zbook X2 G4. Its kinda decent with a wacom pen, matte screen, decent specs. I dunno if MT reviewed it though
HP ZBook X2 as mentioned: ruclips.net/video/oSbk5Lc3wGU/видео.html
Samsung Galaxy Book: ruclips.net/video/guI5rzotiAM/видео.html
Or the old Samsung Notebook 9 Pro: ruclips.net/video/VFT4ZM_wfLY/видео.html
Or new Samsung Notebook 9 Pen.
All of the above use Wacom EMR
I believe the new Notebook 9 Pro (2019) uses Wacom AES.
All of the HP Elitebooks that have pen support typically use Wacom AES I believe.
So the HP business line, and ZBooks (design / workstation line?) use Wacom, while the consumer line (Spectre x360) use nTrig.
Wacom EMR is the best for drawing. Wacom AES is a bit nicer than nTrig apparently.
Where does the stylus go ma'am?
My question is, does it support gaming and software downloadable apps too?
yes
Do you think it can handle the i9(thermally)
... I wonder if you'd get a performance boost from raid 0 two m.2 drives...
Giggity.
Very interesting.
Aside from the Lenovo Yoga 730 15" (which I hope will be coming with a GTX 1650 later in the year), this is the only convertible on the market with some form of end user serviceability and the most powerful convertible. The difference between this and the 730 15" is that the 730 15" uses U series processors (it gets impressive performance out of that U series) and this uses H series processors. Also, 730 15" has one RAM slot you could upgrade yourself and one SSD. This has two RAM slots and two SSDs. But it all depends on workflow. If you absolutely don't need 6 cores, I'd suggest rolling with the quad core variant of this machine, 1080p panel and P2000 (if you could find it) as that would strike the best balance between price and performance. The 4K panel is gonna be a hit to battery life, but it still gets decent battery life for a 4K panel.
I looked up the price for this laptop, it’s much cheaper than some of the mid range gaming laptops and dell xps and all. Maybe it’s because of where I live.
I would love to see you guys review a librem 13 or 15 laptop. Because those seems like solid computers, but there's just not many reviews about them and barely any dive into things.
I'm starting to hate slim designs. No one needs this thin laptop. I like to feel to touch to grab my devices. When I see something thin I can't be sure what really to do with it. Maybe I can put it on my trinket table for some good view.
wish it was emr
Hihi, When you zbook x360 g5 vs spectre x360 g5, which one will you recommend for video editing, photo editing and some gaming, mainly CS Go?
if you retouch with a pen definitly the x360 if not just get the regular one :)
I don’t care anyone says. HP is the laptop you can buy. HP will be the next business to go out of business
Hi, were you able to test the difference in performance between battery and ac power? I am always wonderning if there is a possibility to get the same results on battery as on power adapter.
@@andrethedias This brings me to a conclusion that if one is looking for a computer that can perform very well in both scenarios (battery/power) then on option is MBP, Windows laptops evidently have shortcomings. My other idea would be Linux based laptops like System76 or similar.
@@andrethedias As long as any of those computers can provide same experience on battery and when connected to power I can try... I was thinking of Razer - however I am not a gaming type, more Workstation type
In my tests, it is possible to get the same performance out of the X360. Having a i7-8850h and dreamcolor 4k display (50% brightness): it run out of battery after 2 hours with permanent 100% usage of all 6 cores at more than 3 GHz. I am quite impressed.
@@andrethedias This behavior on the dgpu I will have to test. What is you scenario, test medthod to find out the throttling? Is it thermal or power throtteling?
"In case you want to bash a burglar or something I guess?" LOL
@Mobile techreview.... At 2:12 in the timeline you mention that the 4k DREAMCOLOR version that is 100 percent adobe RGB..and it comes from factory calibrated so color is pretty accurate and perfect for production and film work.. BUT DONT YOU WANT ADOBE SRGB FOR THAT?
The amount of colors it can display on the screen is something different from the precision with which it does; A good calibration of the monitor helps you take out the most of your color palette. (Actually, hp dreamcolor displays have a billion-color gamut, which is even wider than adobe rgb, other than the calibration she mentioned)
Hi! Can you put subtitules in spanish? Please! Your videos are great!
I'm surprised that she mentioned it doesn't thermal throttle because I have the standard version of this without the convertible screen and it throttles like crazy in Premiere Pro. CPU often throttles to 1.5ghz, even with fan speed at 100%. Very disappointed in this laptop.
What specs does it have?
The internals and ports sound good but its certainly quite an ugly design compared to several other brand designs.
Like it
Not my cup of tea but nice review, as usual.
$1,890 bucks for it.
I have a mac and to be honest i hate my Mac. I can't make music with it and its starting to slowly slow down. I barely have it for 2 years and i take very good care of it. Since it cost me $2,320 bucks.
Thank you. Two base questions for future videos, please!
1. What are the ranking of the top 5 laptop brands? And why?
2. The top 5 desktop brands? And why?
Much appreciated!
.... Thank you indeed. What about HP?
workstation without numberpad, big chin, this is so frustrating..
Oh look, for only a few thousand dollars more HP *can* make case designs which are not cheap bling looking and sh** to open and upgrade...
Is this good for playing League of Legends?
yes
Will it make my life a living hell and throttle like an XPS ?
no it is not throttling it keeps the max cpu clock a a litte under the normal clockspeed but it is constantly high!
does it throttle?
She said it doesn't thermal throttle in any meaningful way. Temps top out at low 90c, but no throttling.
@@nSpiraliArchitectb and i wonder how about power limit throttling
Any thoughts on the FHD 1080p model? I'm looking at it here in Australia, with i9-8950HK, Quadro P2000, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD.. and it works out slightly cheaper (around $5,100 AUD) than the non-DreamColor 4K model with the E-2186M, 32GB, 1TB SSD... I'm not really a 'content creator'. My use case is, I'm after a powerful 2-in-1 for general use, development, running VMs (homelab type stuff) etc. I'm torn between 4K and 1080p. The brightness on both seems similar, sRGB similar, AdobeRGB is around 62% on FHD, 77% for this model.. Thinking maybe I go with the 1080p display with higher spec, which should also help improve battery life -- I'll mostly be using Linux too, so wanting to avoid scaling issues. I suppose I could do some content creation on the side if I decided, or get an external 4K monitor. I can't find the ZBook in store anywhere, so not sure how the 1080p display looks compared to the 4K panel.. I haven't seen the DreamColor model available here, it appears to be a custom build option through HP, so I would have to get a quote -- and I'm guessing it will be much pricier.
Wow, it doesn't have numeric keypad. That's a big no-no for a Z-Book :|
B&H sells the p2000 model: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1468568-REG/hp_6fn99ut_aba_zbook_studio_x360_g5.html
Looks good but put off by those bezels
Great Review. If anyone wants to see a video of me using the ZBook x360 to paint a digital painting in Photoshop, it's on my channel. I used the right hand to paint with and the left to navigate through the image.
gaming laptop are better both in performance and cost in architectural work
A laptop should not be called studio unless is has extra special microphones and webcams. An iPad pro can use Lumafusion now to edit 4k video faster than most of these powerhouses.
If I want to buy a laptop, is it possible to make transactions with you
Really wish the reviewer would speak slower and enunciate more. Difficult to follow her...