I wish I was the type of 23 year old graduate who could afford a brand new hot hatch, I’ve been out of uni 6 months and can hardly afford a pint of milk lol
Hypersonik, that's bizzare. Could it be because you're in Europe which may have lower salaries because there are a lot more of you or something like that? Here in the states and at my university, the AVERAGE starting salary of grads of our engineering school is, I believe, around 70k. My friend is co-oping (taking a semester off and working full time for class credit) this upcoming semester as only a sophomore and is making the equivalent of about 55k despite having only finished one and a half years of his engineering degree. Also £25k is the equivalent of about $33400, which in the states puts you in the lower 44% of the nation in terms of income, if that were true, we wouldn't have ANY engineers here. Maybe things like cost of living, insurance, etc. are quite different in your neck of the woods?
I second that! at 27, I finally got an EP3. 2 years on, I can't think of a car that i could possibly replace it with, besides a newer type R. Hopefully i can save up for one of these in he next couple years
I'm 33. I grew up on Need for Speed underground. You can bet I'm gonna wrap this in some anime shit and roll down the road bumping Riders on the Storm. This car was built for my generation.
I've been driving one for half a year now and it still puts a smile on my face every day. This thing is truly a masterpiece and hands down the best car I have ever had the pleasure to drive. Don't believe me? Go and test drive it...
TheBroz I’m really confused towards its looks. One part of me loves it and madly wants it. Yet the other one tells me, what in this world are you thinking?
I understand why some people hate the look of the new type R, but I think that it stands out from the rest of the cars on the road, and that’s kinda important. The golf R (for example) could just pass you on the road and you wouldn’t give it a second glance; this car doesn’t look “mainstream” like every other car (with exceptions of course) on the road.
I happen to be a big fan of the design with that wing, and it's almost so overly vented and aggressive that it looks goofy... but that's half the point of whipping around in a hot hatch to begin, with is it not? The new gen Civic just looks like an Audi A-series, they completely eradicated a ton of charm. Not anything against Audi, I love Audis. But like you said, now it's just another car that doesn't stand out. Problem is with the 10th gen Type R, every asshole on the road sees that big wing and immediately feels the need to try to go faster than you. This car can get you a lot of tickets if you fall into that trap lmao 🤣
I am 47 and yes, beside of the look it is a masterpiece. It is a crazy looking beast, it is incredible fast and reliable... Why should I care so much about the look or how others see me in it? For me personally, this is all about the fun of driving. I am getting one this year. Great review and greets from Germany!
@@derekscheeler4544 Danke, prima - ich warte darauf, dass ich in 2 Wochen mein neues 2020er Modell abholen kann. Hast du was verändert? Bei meinem steht der Tausch der Auspuffanlage an (mal schauen, was sich gut anhört und TÜV-konform ist), er muss ein Stück tiefer und ich möchte auf 19Zöller umrüsten, die besser im Radhaus stehen. ... Viele Grüße in die USA!!!
I'm 42 and just got a 2021 Type R last week. I was like alot of people. When it first came out . Didn't care for the over styling. But it really grew on me over the years . Now I like the way it looks. Especially the front end. And the interior is like a high end luxury car in comparison to the Evo X I just traded in.
I was 59 when I bought mine 5 years ago and I still grin like an idiot every time I drive it. A lot of people comment on it at service stations and shops etc and they love the looks as well. I think the only people who dislike the looks are motoring journalists.
@syedlink27 why is it unbelievable? It was 7 years old. And started to get alot of rust on the under carriage. Plus the rear dif was showing signs of leakage. It was time to move on. I had my fun with it . Plus the type R makes a better daily than the Evo did.
Chris Harris has thee best reviews. Most people tell you the facts. He gives the facts and the whole experience with the car. Like he just picks the right words. He just one of the best at what he does bruh. Hands down. Chris Harris is the only reason you need to watch Top Gear
@Ali Alexander Older gentleman? I'm 58 and bought my civic sport plus last year, not the R cause taxes for a car with that power will kill you in my homeland, its austria by the way, only tax is more than 2000 Euros every year for the R, plus around 1000 Euros min. insurance costs a year. My midlife crisis was 20 years ago, at that time I drove a Ford Focus diesel ;-)
Why is it that mostly guys in their 50s & 60s love this car ? Im 53 and like it very much. My teenage sons dislike it. They've obviously got bad taste.
This Type R is beastly. But that’s the point, isn’t it? As ostentatious as it is on the outside and inside, it surely matches all that garishness with performance and handling. As a 51 year old, I would love to own one, if only to drive it on the weekends for the pure pleasure of it.
I have one and agree with almost everything Chris says with the exception of his complaint about the exterior styling . I am an oldie and I like it ,it seems that it’s the youngens that take exception to the looks .
Chris I'm a 41 year old doctor and ı have this car. It is fantastic and very joyful to drive. I like its exterior and interior. Age does not matter, just a stupid parameter for decisions..
I'm sorry but this dude has to be completely insane, not counting hyper/supercars this thing is the most beautiful car I've ever seen and it's not even close
I have a 2001 EP3 Type R with 188k on the clock.... still goes like a BASTARD (as Clarkson would say). Love it. I also have the FN2 Type R 06 model and think it gets dismissed WAY too often... also drives well, not as quick as the EP3 but drives nicely.
I have an 07 Type R and I agree, it gets dismissed way to often. Mine gets smashed into the rev limiter everyday and it just takes it, over and over. its on 66000 miles now and I've done 37000 of them, it's never needed anything from me. Just keep them well serviced and keep the oil well topped up. I've been looking at an FK2 but I can't get myself to let some youth take a decent FN2 and destroy it. I know someone with an 02 Type R with 140k on it and that engine is as fresh as it ever has been.
This is an icon, a masterpiece. Nurburgring records slower than the Civic Type-R FK8 (MANUAL FCOL): Lamborghini Murcielago, Pagani Zonda S, Porsche 997 Turbo, Corvette Z06, BMW M3 GTS, BMW M4, Mercedes SLS AMG, Mercedes C 63 Black Series, Audi R8 V10... It costs 33K, and for the looks every one of my 40 years of age loves it. You all try too hard to look cool and grown up, which is curious enough, incredibly immature ^^
Srchangwaytogo C. But in a straight line it gets spanked by a slightly modded V6 mustang lol it’s a track monster yes but who’s going to actually go race on the Nurburgring? Unless you’re lucky enough
I love how it looks, but then I've been driving two WRX STi's for the last 15 years! I know the styling is controversial but I think it's great - and I'm 58! Age is just a number folks :-) Great review, and a nice car to drive. Chris Harris is the reason I started watching Top Gear again after being so fed up with that other buffoon.
Hey Blues, same here. Love Chris and started watching Top Gear again for the same reason. BTW, got my Type R at 61 and am having a ton of fun. And the slow console, you can get used to it too :-)
Im 53 driven all sorts mainly German cars currently driving a 640d MSport and I think the type R is awesome. My teenage sons are dissuading me saying it wont suit me but I think its because they haven't experienced what I've experienced and don't see the boy racer in me.
I have to say, I absolutely love watching "Chris Harris" videos. He is so easy to listen to and you get the feeling you are getting information from someone who really knows about cars and didn't just have an opinion written for him. I am actually quite happy with how Top Gear has rebounded after the disaster that was Chris Evans. I will watch any video with Chris Harris in it because he just provides exactly what I think a car reviewer should give you. A great, knowledgeable opinion that you can safely rely on. Granted, we are all different and like different things but I would find it hard to believe anyone who could say they don't like Chris Harris. Well done Chris and well done Top Gear for giving us something that not many thought you could. A post Clarkson May and Hammond show worth watching. You fell on your face the first season they were gone but man have you bounced back. One last thing. I also completely agree with Chris on the Civics visuals. Its hideous.
Well said, Top Gear really showed class here with the direction they chose, really feels like a brit's way of handling things and the Trio just look like lost children in retrospect. I haven't bothered with Grand Tour after seeing how much they are milking the "funny trio", but in America, with all the stupid, American jokes (to be read as the stupid jokes of America, not that American jokes are all stupid). I mean GT is a corporative meat grinder for the talent of those three with the sole reason to make big $$. They fell right into that trap and now it's a show for the stupid people that got swept by the wave of popularity increase of TG in previous years. It's nothing more than a puppet show of TG, cars are there just for the transport of jokes.
Mike F chris is great. But clarkson is on another level. Chris is more serious and provides a more imformational review. However Clarkson manages to bring more humour and relatibility into his reviews, using comparisions that no other reviewer would. And that makes Clarkdon more fun to watch.
I'm almost 30 and picked one up in the bright blue color. I will never understand why some people are just turned off by the design. I think it's unique and interesting. Even if I was 65 years old I would still want to daily drive it. Excellent review, you nailed all the pain points that I agree with 100% Chris.
I just turned 30 and bought one too, best car I've ever driven. I couldn't care less what others think honestly, the car is mine and I absolutely love the thing! Enjoy yours bud, truly a special car
I remember being 18, drooling over Evo IX's. Bought this car in my 30's and have no regrets. Live your life and who cares if someone thinks your car looks silly. You only get one life.
I think a hot hatch should look, er, well, hot! Unlike the golf r that just looks pretty much like a regular Golf at least the Type R looks actually sporty. I'm over half way through my 40s and I love the way this thing looks. Bravo Honda let's have more crazy looking beasts!
Golf looks 10,000 x better IMO. This riced up civic, even compared to the focus RS/WRX STi looks outlandish and childish. That rear wing is a joke on a FWD...
Yeah it is a joke much like a FWD being a track car to begin with. Another joke is its MSRP for a FWD car. FWD is supposed to save money and weight, not for performance and track times. Nose heavy unbalanced weight is not what you should be trying to track with, that's why they build RWD and AWD in the first place. Seen a lot of wrecks because a fwd loses grip (under-steer) in a corner then once back on tarmac it bites and your ass ends up in the wall.
Absolutely on point. What this car needs is a "reverse body kit" where you smooth things out instead of making it aggressive. It's too much in too many places. As a driving machine? Brilliant.
I think the Honda is a top car ,it was built to appeal to all family etc , the length is so you can go on long journeys without fatigue and still enjoy the experience at the end of your journey The looks are to die for ,if your driving around in a performance car you wanted people to know it ! Love it , And saving !
Built to appeal to "all family" yet it looks like something no one over the age of 19 would drive and is a 4 seater with damn cup holders in the middle seat... HMMM
So Honda made an accord type r. Perfect and just the right time too since I need the extra back seats for my family. Plus I am sorta going through a 1/4 life crisis.
Fantastic car and review. Bought my fk8 last year for my 40th and it just puts a smile on my face each time I drive it. Exceptional and an absolute blast.
My grandfather told me that he saw The Titanic, and that from the beginning he warned all the people that that boat would sink, but they ignored him, however they were warned again on several occassions, until they kicked him out the cinema.
GodfatherBFH I can hear it just fine? I think it goes well with the cinematics. Breaks out really well into the shot of the rolling hills from the beginning.
why not? It dose not cost Honda anything extra to make a customization button. Its just some software really... The components are there, and are capable of doing it since they do it in the different modes.
The EP3 was my first 'proper' car. I bough the thing for 4000 quid back in the mid 2000s and drove it like it was stolen for 2 years. 8 years on and many grown-up cars later... the EP3's still the one
First car was a Type-R EK9. After my 997 GT3 the EK9 was the best driving experience. Too bad so many Honda haters will never experience that kind of fun
People don't give the FK8 credit where it's great. Harris actually did, and I'm happy about that. But most of the people in the comments can't. The FK8 does have too much going on with the exterior and the infotainment is awful, but as far as driving dynamics it is a fantastic car.
I'm sure it's A LOT more fun than my MK7 R, maybe if I'd live where there's no winter I'd get one, but the clown car exterior is a bit much and I like a bit of comfort. Getting a foot of snow this week, it's gonna be fun 😉
I'm the biggest Type R fan but never got to drive one until yesterday...my friend hot a 2021 LE #220. It was AMAZING. best car I've ever drove !! Type Rs are THE BEST
Currently one of a few, if not the best car journalists working today Knows cars, drives oh so well, knows everything about the car and talks very well..thanks Chris. Everyone appreciates your work as we know you do!
The old type r remindes me of the Fiesta ST all the money was spent on the suspension, engine, transmission. The interior doesn't matter when the car is so fun!
My fiesta st 05 is by far the most fun ive had behind the wheel. Of course there are more powerful cars existing but even so...its just so fun car to drive. My mom hates it since you actually have to drive it though due short shifting, heavy glutch and "doors are too heavy"...and im 33 years old who still behaves like a child. 😂
Steven Barclay I drive my fiesta ST every day. The short wheel base makes it have a pretty harsh ride. Just don't be an old man. I'm in the US though which has much better roads.
I thought I was the only one noticing The Other Driver almost scratching left side of the car on the rocks. I'm sure he left some marks from plants growing nearby the edge.
Holy shit! To everyone asking for the soundtrack in this video after 6 years I’ve finally found it!!!! It’s From the Gran Turismo game called Chunnel U - Blue Phoenix
I’ve had an ep3 for 15 years now amongst other cars and I’ve never had a problem with it! So reliable! And it is so much fun! Still get a buzz when I get in it!
I think Chris (who is a brilliant presenter) expected something else based on his experience with the previous Type Rs and he focused a little bit too much on it's looks. He does have a point when he says he doesn't understand what kind of buyers this aims at, but the strong point of the new Type R is it's performance. It's a technological showcase for Honda, a FWD hot hatch that is faster than a GT3 or a R8 in the Ring for a slice of their price and guess what - this is what hot hatch drivers loved to do for decades: humiliate drivers with much more expensive cars who think that a high price tag makes a car fast and them fast drivers. This is what Honda sells for years. You can't afford an M? here's a car that is insanely fast and good at a fraction of the price. As for its looks? I prefer looking at the new Type R than any boring Golf GTI that looks almost the same as the one my grandma drives, you can give them credit for that. At least, it's not boring.
Faster than a gt3 on the ring, lolololol, deluded......you’ve been conned......the civic type r was not a standard production car, there are no official records on the ring, car was striped out, had a roll cage, no multimedia system, track tyres, unrated brakes and suspension , etc and that’s all we know about
Everytime I watch a Chris Harris review, I wish I could live wherever that was shot for those roads. My wife though, doesn't want to live in the middle of nowhere.
Honda needs a Fit R. 200hp 1.5T as light as possible, Independent rear suspension. That would fill the hole the EP3 left both performance and price wise. In the US I hope they release a Fit Si and Acura ILX-S. The ILX-S can be a toned down CTR. More grown up looks and also offer the 8DCT with the K20T motor. It would sell quite well.
I’ve got a 2018 Fit with a 6MT. If I have it revved out on a very tight backroad it’s a blast but anywhere that there is a straight away I wish I had at least 70 more hp and lb ft of torque. A Fit Si/Type R would be awesome but I doubt It’ll ever come to the states
I saw an older lady at the dealership the other day, I told her the acccords are over there, she was like “ oh nah, I’m looking for an hatchback civic “ I was shocked ! Everybody loves a hatchback civic
I donno how many times I have to say this: Chris Harris is the GOAT. No one can match his style of presenting, his automotive experience as well as knowledge and his attitude. Simply the best out there.
I love the looks of the new type r.....need to remember that looks are subjective....people hate the way the nissan juke looks yet the juke has great sales ever since it came out people have been buying it non stop.
CommaCam young, single, rich, or living at home kids with decent jobs is what they thought I'm assuming. But yeah, as a person who fits that description, I'd still rather buy the old one, wrx, or even a focus lol. This civic has got to be one of the worst looking body ever by them lol. I'd rather be slow and look sane...
Just drove the new FK8 yesterday and its brilliant I've owned quick manual stuff all my life and I moved to an auto beemer last year basically because, everything good to drive seemed to be going DSG/Auto etc, but now im seriously thinking about buying one of these
Really growing to like this new type r, thinking I kinda want one. Looks have grown on me more over time somewhat. Wish they did a 3door version though, don't really need it to be so big.
I think the outside styling is made to lure generation X to buy it instead of the current generation. My generation of generation X loved loud and in your face exterior styling and that's exactly what this car is. I know I like it.
Aimed at Gen-X? Gen-X'ers were born and bred on the subtle flex... Merc 300E. Acura Legend. Acura Integra. 911 with whale's tail if you wanted to get fancy. I appreciate the aero on the new Type-R, but holy hell is it an ugly and busy design. If I wanted to buy an anime mech / gundam in automotive form....
Joshua V. you know millennials are people born in years 1981 through to 1997 so (rounding up seeing were a week away from the new year ) 37-21 year olds
"this thing could easily be an accord". I'm sold. I drive a 56 plate Accord and love it. The only downside is that they have discontinued the Accord line in the UK, so years down the line I will have to look at other cars. This new civic is top of the list for me!
Kripke a fairly lady z was never a muscle car they were always purist sports cars. Most people don't understand what makes a real muscle car. A muscle car can't be small it has to be full size car. Most people don't realize mustangs aren't musclecars in fact they were invented as a solution and alternative to muscle cars.
I’m 53 and I thought it was a bit mad to look at but I bought a black one and I like it’s mad looks. It’s a great car can pick the kids up it will do over 40 mpg on motorway tax is only £150. It’s got great driver aids adaptive cruise. It’s fast can do track days brakes are powerful feels solid and planted I prefer it bigger - in car media is great speakers sound great the driving position is really nice I never want to get out of it I like the fact it looks likes a Batman car. School kids think it’s amazing - it’s not really loud enough the only gripe - for me I’d like stiffer suspension but not that it needs it it would just feel more visceral along with a noisy exhaust-
It is the best car on the road for high speed everyday use...amazing engine in fact the best engine in the world with its sodium cooled valves to its under tuned 320hp
Tough engine as well, I abuse mine on the track and it shows no sign of weakness (it overheats a bit when its really hot out), but other than that no problems.
@@Denkmaldrubernacht well that's a long time to think about it but they are a really nice car if you can get a clean one I don't think you could go wrong.
@@Denkmaldrubernacht just sold my TT Quattro for one. Night and day. Such a good car. Sits very happily at 8,000 rpm, doesn't skip a beat. The previous owner had had it since 2007 and the only problem they ever had with it is a lambda sensor failed. In the 13 years of ownership nothing went wrong
Im above that 18-24 age range Chris (just) and I love the looks of this car inside and out. It basically comes stock with a bodykit meaning you don’t have to pay to install one!
I like everything about it, but would prefer naturally aspirated higher revving engine ala S2000, and RWD. Like literally an S2000 powertrain in this practical body would be perfection for a daily.
Dude same here but the markups at places are horrible, Type R with 20k miles on it is like only 3k off MSRP. Better to buy new and pay delivery, I don't want anyone to rev it around before I baby it. That would piss me off.
Spot on review. It's great how you weren't afraid to point out the negatives, unlike other reviews of the Type-R I've seen. There is no one better for automotive journalism other than Chris Harris.
I'm 50yrs old and I'm getting one next year.
me too
My dad is 65 and he got one, loves it to bits
My dad is buying this for me as a college grad gift next summer. Since this was and still is his dream car
I can't think of a username , you’ll love it man, such a nice car to drive and soo quic
Properly
I wish I was the type of 23 year old graduate who could afford a brand new hot hatch, I’ve been out of uni 6 months and can hardly afford a pint of milk lol
BotchyXdog As a Freshman....Not the most confidence-inspiring comment I've seen
Michael Pickering
STUDY ENGINEERING!!! You'll be making at least 60k a week after graduation.
Going to college before earning up at least 20k is wack.. I’ll never understand why people are so pressed to go into debt right after high school...
I have two engineering degrees. That is complete bollocks. An Engineering grad is on about £20-25k.
Hypersonik, that's bizzare. Could it be because you're in Europe which may have lower salaries because there are a lot more of you or something like that? Here in the states and at my university, the AVERAGE starting salary of grads of our engineering school is, I believe, around 70k. My friend is co-oping (taking a semester off and working full time for class credit) this upcoming semester as only a sophomore and is making the equivalent of about 55k despite having only finished one and a half years of his engineering degree.
Also £25k is the equivalent of about $33400, which in the states puts you in the lower 44% of the nation in terms of income, if that were true, we wouldn't have ANY engineers here. Maybe things like cost of living, insurance, etc. are quite different in your neck of the woods?
It's aimed at the 90's boy racer....some never grow up...i need this toy
I second that!
at 27, I finally got an EP3.
2 years on, I can't think of a car that i could possibly replace it with, besides a newer type R.
Hopefully i can save up for one of these in he next couple years
you re right , i needed it , sold my s2k and got an fk8 ,but
kept my 96 itr
3v4761 yep I had the Ep3 and want this!!!
I'm 102 years old and this car is actually not that bad.
Amazing to see 100 year olds typing youtube comments.
@@theninethrees8044 following the trend in this comments section.😂
Your kidding your lieing
@@PioneersOfTheCosmos no sht
@@Christopher-ye3yk I already knew it was a joke
I'm 33. I grew up on Need for Speed underground. You can bet I'm gonna wrap this in some anime shit and roll down the road bumping Riders on the Storm. This car was built for my generation.
I've been driving one for half a year now and it still puts a smile on my face every day. This thing is truly a masterpiece and hands down the best car I have ever had the pleasure to drive. Don't believe me? Go and test drive it...
I just bought a red one yesterday
I can pick it up in 10 days i cant wait 🎉
I'm a grown adult who could afford this and I love how it looks. I suspect there may be something wrong with me.
TheBroz Definitely. Sorry mate 😕
This car is awesome and looks great.
TheBroz I’m really confused towards its looks. One part of me loves it and madly wants it. Yet the other one tells me, what in this world are you thinking?
It's aimed directly at me! A 34year old financed child!!!
I am 51 and i think its stunning !! A poor mans Lambo sort of ;-)
I understand why some people hate the look of the new type R, but I think that it stands out from the rest of the cars on the road, and that’s kinda important. The golf R (for example) could just pass you on the road and you wouldn’t give it a second glance; this car doesn’t look “mainstream” like every other car (with exceptions of course) on the road.
I happen to be a big fan of the design with that wing, and it's almost so overly vented and aggressive that it looks goofy... but that's half the point of whipping around in a hot hatch to begin, with is it not? The new gen Civic just looks like an Audi A-series, they completely eradicated a ton of charm. Not anything against Audi, I love Audis. But like you said, now it's just another car that doesn't stand out.
Problem is with the 10th gen Type R, every asshole on the road sees that big wing and immediately feels the need to try to go faster than you. This car can get you a lot of tickets if you fall into that trap lmao 🤣
I am 47 and yes, beside of the look it is a masterpiece. It is a crazy looking beast, it is incredible fast and reliable...
Why should I care so much about the look or how others see me in it? For me personally, this is all about the fun of driving. I am getting one this year. Great review and greets from Germany!
Wie geht's aus den USA. Ich liebe mein Type R!
@@derekscheeler4544 Danke, prima - ich warte darauf, dass ich in 2 Wochen mein neues 2020er Modell abholen kann.
Hast du was verändert? Bei meinem steht der Tausch der Auspuffanlage an (mal schauen, was sich gut anhört und TÜV-konform ist), er muss ein Stück tiefer und ich möchte auf 19Zöller umrüsten, die besser im Radhaus stehen. ... Viele Grüße in die USA!!!
I'm 42 and just got a 2021 Type R last week. I was like alot of people. When it first came out . Didn't care for the over styling. But it really grew on me over the years . Now I like the way it looks. Especially the front end. And the interior is like a high end luxury car in comparison to the Evo X I just traded in.
I was 59 when I bought mine 5 years ago and I still grin like an idiot every time I drive it. A lot of people comment on it at service stations and shops etc and they love the looks as well. I think the only people who dislike the looks are motoring journalists.
Going to get mine this weekend!
@Roman Garza congratulations. I'm still loving mine almost 2 years later
You traded in an Evo X? Really?? Unbelievable
@syedlink27 why is it unbelievable? It was 7 years old. And started to get alot of rust on the under carriage. Plus the rear dif was showing signs of leakage. It was time to move on. I had my fun with it . Plus the type R makes a better daily than the Evo did.
I got a grand tour ad 🤣
vzda123 same haha
Lol 😂 The Grand Tour 👏💜💜
Watched S2 EP2 just now it was great in every single way
😂😂🤣🤣
Well it could be worse.
It's because of reviews like this that I still watch Top Gear.
Rockracer1288 Chris Harris is the only reason You need to watch Top Gear.
Completely agree. His review history is worth watching from 5 years ago
TGT is completely lacking in this regard
Harris is better to review cars than the comedians they had before
Rip...old top gear😟
Chris Harris has thee best reviews. Most people tell you the facts. He gives the facts and the whole experience with the car. Like he just picks the right words. He just one of the best at what he does bruh. Hands down. Chris Harris is the only reason you need to watch Top Gear
I've got one and I'm 54! Its one of the best cars I've ever driven!!!
@Ali Alexander No. "Everyone" doesn't think midlife crisis. You do.
I'm 43 and i think she looks awsome ! Loved the old type r...like the fact not many are about too 😉👍
@Ali Alexander ricer? You know ricers are cars that are slow as shit right?
@Ali Alexander Older gentleman? I'm 58 and bought my civic sport plus last year, not the R cause taxes for a car with that power will kill you in my homeland, its austria by the way, only tax is more than 2000 Euros every year for the R, plus around 1000 Euros min. insurance costs a year. My midlife crisis was 20 years ago, at that time I drove a Ford Focus diesel ;-)
Why is it that mostly guys in their 50s & 60s love this car ? Im 53 and like it very much. My teenage sons dislike it. They've obviously got bad taste.
This Type R is beastly. But that’s the point, isn’t it? As ostentatious as it is on the outside and inside, it surely matches all that garishness with performance and handling. As a 51 year old, I would love to own one, if only to drive it on the weekends for the pure pleasure of it.
Thats where im at. Age 53 currently driving BMW 640d sport and id love to own the type R. My kind of car.
Type R is a weekend only beast!
Anyone notice how HUGE it looks on those roads
yeah it looks T H I C C
or the roads are just tight, i felt like its not possible to drive the trucks and suvs in the us on those roads
Thicc and wide = traction and handles all
Day.
I have one and agree with almost everything Chris says with the exception of his complaint about the exterior styling . I am an oldie and I like it ,it seems that it’s the youngens that take exception to the looks .
Chris I'm a 41 year old doctor and ı have this car. It is fantastic and very joyful to drive. I like its exterior and interior. Age does not matter, just a stupid parameter for decisions..
Age does not matter,just a stupid parameter for decisions.
Well said.
I'm sorry but this dude has to be completely insane, not counting hyper/supercars this thing is the most beautiful car I've ever seen and it's not even close
Agree, no other car besides super cars have such an elaborate design.
It’s aimed at the young Japanese market. It fits in perfectly in Tokyo.
That's true it fits nicely in big asian cities like, Seoul, Singapore, Hongkong, Bangkok and so on...
I got a 2004 EP03 Civic Type R, with 83k on the clock, still a joy to drive, never let me down in 13+ years. Great car!
I have a 2001 EP3 Type R with 188k on the clock.... still goes like a BASTARD (as Clarkson would say). Love it. I also have the FN2 Type R 06 model and think it gets dismissed WAY too often... also drives well, not as quick as the EP3 but drives nicely.
I have an 07 Type R and I agree, it gets dismissed way to often. Mine gets smashed into the rev limiter everyday and it just takes it, over and over. its on 66000 miles now and I've done 37000 of them, it's never needed anything from me. Just keep them well serviced and keep the oil well topped up. I've been looking at an FK2 but I can't get myself to let some youth take a decent FN2 and destroy it. I know someone with an 02 Type R with 140k on it and that engine is as fresh as it ever has been.
Dave's Game Room mines got 130k on it, nice to see yours has more and is still going strong!!
2002 civic sir ep3 (canadian version) here. 194k and still going strong! Love my car!
Just bought a 2002 EP3 in Championship White (yes the JDM version!) I'm loving every single moment of driving it!!
This is an icon, a masterpiece. Nurburgring records slower than the Civic Type-R FK8 (MANUAL FCOL): Lamborghini Murcielago, Pagani Zonda S, Porsche 997 Turbo, Corvette Z06, BMW M3 GTS, BMW M4, Mercedes SLS AMG, Mercedes C 63 Black Series, Audi R8 V10... It costs 33K, and for the looks every one of my 40 years of age loves it. You all try too hard to look cool and grown up, which is curious enough, incredibly immature ^^
yea sure buddy
Srchangwaytogo C. But in a straight line it gets spanked by a slightly modded V6 mustang lol it’s a track monster yes but who’s going to actually go race on the Nurburgring? Unless you’re lucky enough
Well then compare that slightly modded Mustang to a slightly modded Type R. An intake and tune brings them up to near 400 whp.
What a dumb post.
@@FerRod2113 - No thanks to the POS Ford.
Shane Carr it’s a V6 mustang.. a V-6 M-U-S-T-A-N-G... lol a 50k modern car vs a 8 year old V6 mustang..
Got my CTR when I was 26, hoping I can keep running until I'm 76... there will be more cars in the future but the Type R is one I never want to sell.
I love how it looks, but then I've been driving two WRX STi's for the last 15 years! I know the styling is controversial but I think it's great - and I'm 58! Age is just a number folks :-) Great review, and a nice car to drive. Chris Harris is the reason I started watching Top Gear again after being so fed up with that other buffoon.
Hey Blues, same here. Love Chris and started watching Top Gear again for the same reason. BTW, got my Type R at 61 and am having a ton of fun. And the slow console, you can get used to it too :-)
I'm right there with you at 48 years old, Blues Cruiser. I bought the 2019 Type-R and I LOVE the way it looks! It's a BLAST to drive.
Well, I've seen a 65+ (maybe even 70+) driving a Civic Type R with a Wing delete.
I was just about to say the opposite 😂 mundane dreary and no comedy
Im 53 driven all sorts mainly German cars currently driving a 640d MSport and I think the type R is awesome. My teenage sons are dissuading me saying it wont suit me but I think its because they haven't experienced what I've experienced and don't see the boy racer in me.
I’m a 90s kid. Got the 2020 during the summer. Best summer, lol
I have to say, I absolutely love watching "Chris Harris" videos. He is so easy to listen to and you get the feeling you are getting information from someone who really knows about cars and didn't just have an opinion written for him. I am actually quite happy with how Top Gear has rebounded after the disaster that was Chris Evans. I will watch any video with Chris Harris in it because he just provides exactly what I think a car reviewer should give you. A great, knowledgeable opinion that you can safely rely on. Granted, we are all different and like different things but I would find it hard to believe anyone who could say they don't like Chris Harris. Well done Chris and well done Top Gear for giving us something that not many thought you could. A post Clarkson May and Hammond show worth watching. You fell on your face the first season they were gone but man have you bounced back. One last thing. I also completely agree with Chris on the Civics visuals. Its hideous.
Well said, Top Gear really showed class here with the direction they chose, really feels like a brit's way of handling things and the Trio just look like lost children in retrospect. I haven't bothered with Grand Tour after seeing how much they are milking the "funny trio", but in America, with all the stupid, American jokes (to be read as the stupid jokes of America, not that American jokes are all stupid). I mean GT is a corporative meat grinder for the talent of those three with the sole reason to make big $$. They fell right into that trap and now it's a show for the stupid people that got swept by the wave of popularity increase of TG in previous years. It's nothing more than a puppet show of TG, cars are there just for the transport of jokes.
Mike F it's like a nature documentary but with a car
Mike F chris is great. But clarkson is on another level. Chris is more serious and provides a more imformational review. However Clarkson manages to bring more humour and relatibility into his reviews, using comparisions that no other reviewer would. And that makes Clarkdon more fun to watch.
great comment in honor of the man
@@SmokeRzzzz Well, that’s your opinion. I quite enjoy it.
That drone video at the start chasing the car is superb.
I hate how these cars get hate
I just realized the irony in that comment
I hate
Bradley Ziegelmann I hate how you hate how these cars get hate.......mate
Bradley Ziegelmann - I hate how those who hate how much hate these cars get hate so much against those who hate these cars.
I hate all you guys
I'm almost 30 and picked one up in the bright blue color. I will never understand why some people are just turned off by the design. I think it's unique and interesting. Even if I was 65 years old I would still want to daily drive it. Excellent review, you nailed all the pain points that I agree with 100% Chris.
I just turned 30 and bought one too, best car I've ever driven. I couldn't care less what others think honestly, the car is mine and I absolutely love the thing! Enjoy yours bud, truly a special car
@@jonathan___4684 thx m8 you too
I remember being 18, drooling over Evo IX's. Bought this car in my 30's and have no regrets. Live your life and who cares if someone thinks your car looks silly. You only get one life.
I think a hot hatch should look, er, well, hot! Unlike the golf r that just looks pretty much like a regular Golf at least the Type R looks actually sporty. I'm over half way through my 40s and I love the way this thing looks. Bravo Honda let's have more crazy looking beasts!
Grow up! :D
Golf looks 10,000 x better IMO. This riced up civic, even compared to the focus RS/WRX STi looks outlandish and childish. That rear wing is a joke on a FWD...
rear wing a joke? you never go on the track i see, no matter the drivetrain, without proper downforce, the rear end breaks loose.
Yeah it is a joke much like a FWD being a track car to begin with. Another joke is its MSRP for a FWD car.
FWD is supposed to save money and weight, not for performance and track times. Nose heavy unbalanced weight is not what you should be trying to track with, that's why they build RWD and AWD in the first place. Seen a lot of wrecks because a fwd loses grip (under-steer) in a corner then once back on tarmac it bites and your ass ends up in the wall.
Faster lap times than the AWD competitors
Absolutely on point. What this car needs is a "reverse body kit" where you smooth things out instead of making it aggressive. It's too much in too many places. As a driving machine? Brilliant.
Exactly! Honda should really make a sleeper version more like the Si
If you get it in black it looks a little more sedate.
Look for the spoon bodykit
I think the Honda is a top car ,it was built to appeal to all family etc , the length is so you can go on long journeys without fatigue and still enjoy the experience at the end of your journey
The looks are to die for ,if your driving around in a performance car you wanted people to know it !
Love it , And saving !
Built to appeal to "all family" yet it looks like something no one over the age of 19 would drive and is a 4 seater with damn cup holders in the middle seat... HMMM
So Honda made an accord type r. Perfect and just the right time too since I need the extra back seats for my family. Plus I am sorta going through a 1/4 life crisis.
Lol yes this is basically a "plastic'd" up 1999 Accord revamped lol.
Fantastic car and review. Bought my fk8 last year for my 40th and it just puts a smile on my face each time I drive it. Exceptional and an absolute blast.
ruclips.net/video/iAkCzYPVuBw/видео.html
Mine is a similar story.....my FK8 is now 620bhp on stock motor, stock clutch and stock exhaust
Cheers!
My grandfather told me that he saw The Titanic, and that from the beginning he warned all the people that that boat would sink, but they ignored him, however they were warned again on several occassions, until they kicked him out the cinema.
Bamby Choi hahahha you son of a bi***
I thought your profile pic was a hair on my screen...
I really hate your profile pic.
Lol
Same here.
Is Top Gear going to fire its sound editor already? God can barely hear Chris's voice with that obnoxiously loud music.....
GodfatherBFH I can hear it just fine?
I think it goes well with the cinematics. Breaks out really well into the shot of the rolling hills from the beginning.
GodfatherBFH sounds fine to me
At the beginning of the video i felt it was badly mixed too.
It got better after though.
Fine with me as well
Completely fine for me. Perhaps use headphones with better dynamics?
Crazy how much bigger these type of cars have gotten over the years =S
starocean01 right. They grow up with their buyers. But this one is having a mid life crisis.
It's gotten because people have gotten bigger and fatter.
It's just how it is with damn near every single manufacturer these days, even Porsche.
To simplify it:
Practicality
"This thing could easily be an Accord". =D
Cmon, Chris, this is a $35K car, dont expect all the customization features from a $55K+ BMW.
im pretty sure the price can accomodate customization features, but im willing to bet honda wanted to keep it simple.
Abhi Basu you can get those features on a $25,000 Volkswagen lol
@@guenthersteiner8163 get a vw then, we will enjoy the type r civic
I’m sure simple was on their mind. I test drove a veloster n pp and was lost in the menus. I said f it and got the type r. I don’t regret it
why not? It dose not cost Honda anything extra to make a customization button. Its just some software really... The components are there, and are capable of doing it since they do it in the different modes.
I'm 40 and have a 2017 civic si and I love it. 6 sp manual, 1.5 turbo, a lot of fun.
The EP3 was my first 'proper' car. I bough the thing for 4000 quid back in the mid 2000s and drove it like it was stolen for 2 years. 8 years on and many grown-up cars later... the EP3's still the one
First car was a Type-R EK9. After my 997 GT3 the EK9 was the best driving experience. Too bad so many Honda haters will never experience that kind of fun
IIXRATEDIIHiTMAN dumb question but what are the buttons on the A pillar by your head?
Great work Chris
People don't give the FK8 credit where it's great. Harris actually did, and I'm happy about that. But most of the people in the comments can't. The FK8 does have too much going on with the exterior and the infotainment is awful, but as far as driving dynamics it is a fantastic car.
Klockorino well said sir
I'm sure it's A LOT more fun than my MK7 R, maybe if I'd live where there's no winter I'd get one, but the clown car exterior is a bit much and I like a bit of comfort. Getting a foot of snow this week, it's gonna be fun 😉
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Klockorino most people in the comments never driven it 😂
Everybody whines about the fake air vents, even they’re on every single new car😂
I'm the biggest Type R fan but never got to drive one until yesterday...my friend hot a 2021 LE #220. It was AMAZING. best car I've ever drove !! Type Rs are THE BEST
They're no joke and amazing to drive! Have fun and be safe!
Currently one of a few, if not the best car journalists working today
Knows cars, drives oh so well, knows everything about the car and talks very well..thanks Chris. Everyone appreciates your work as we know you do!
The old type r remindes me of the Fiesta ST all the money was spent on the suspension, engine, transmission. The interior doesn't matter when the car is so fun!
My fiesta st 05 is by far the most fun ive had behind the wheel. Of course there are more powerful cars existing but even so...its just so fun car to drive. My mom hates it since you actually have to drive it though due short shifting, heavy glutch and "doors are too heavy"...and im 33 years old who still behaves like a child. 😂
Steven Barclay I drive my fiesta ST every day. The short wheel base makes it have a pretty harsh ride. Just don't be an old man. I'm in the US though which has much better roads.
jmelzer except the Ford is a lemon
That's a pretty narrow road there. The new type-r can barely fit between the lines.
I thought I was the only one noticing The Other Driver almost scratching left side of the car on the rocks. I'm sure he left some marks from plants growing nearby the edge.
either the road is narrow... or the car is too wide
The Type R is super wide at the front.
Australia country roads are narrow aswell . Even gorges even narrower roads
I thought the same thing... Getting awfully close to those rocks.. Holy shit.
Nothing will be like the old Hondas that's why I still have my 1995 Integra GSR and will never get rid of it!
Holy shit!
To everyone asking for the soundtrack in this video after 6 years I’ve finally found it!!!!
It’s From the Gran Turismo game called Chunnel U - Blue Phoenix
I’ve had an ep3 for 15 years now amongst other cars and I’ve never had a problem with it! So reliable! And it is so much fun! Still get a buzz when I get in it!
EP3 will never get old. There’s nothing else like it, that isn’t another Honda!
I think Chris (who is a brilliant presenter) expected something else based on his experience with the previous Type Rs and he focused a little bit too much on it's looks. He does have a point when he says he doesn't understand what kind of buyers this aims at, but the strong point of the new Type R is it's performance. It's a technological showcase for Honda, a FWD hot hatch that is faster than a GT3 or a R8 in the Ring for a slice of their price and guess what - this is what hot hatch drivers loved to do for decades: humiliate drivers with much more expensive cars who think that a high price tag makes a car fast and them fast drivers. This is what Honda sells for years. You can't afford an M? here's a car that is insanely fast and good at a fraction of the price.
As for its looks? I prefer looking at the new Type R than any boring Golf GTI that looks almost the same as the one my grandma drives, you can give them credit for that. At least, it's not boring.
AlkisGR Agree for the most part but... you can get the M140 (M lite I know) for the same price as BMW’s deals are so good!
Faster than a gt3 on the ring, lolololol, deluded......you’ve been conned......the civic type r was not a standard production car, there are no official records on the ring, car was striped out, had a roll cage, no multimedia system, track tyres, unrated brakes and suspension , etc and that’s all we know about
It looks so good in gray
Love this car, don’t agree with the negative vibes and I’m in my 30s
I bought an EP3 because of this review. It is a superb, little car. 😁
Shit hot little cars had a few over the yrs now fk8 if u can money wise switch trust
Everytime I watch a Chris Harris review, I wish I could live wherever that was shot for those roads. My wife though, doesn't want to live in the middle of nowhere.
That road used to be my commute for 7 years, and is a joy to drive :-)
@@matfenwick where is this road ??
@@yezyk07 It's the B4407 Migneint Pass in North Wales.
Divorce her - live your life the way you want to 😂
It's funny you mention the Accord - the sedan/saloon version of the Civic hatch is larger than the last EU Accord. Oh how times change...
JFCW correct. I have a last-generation Acura TSX (what the EU Accord was called in North America) and it’s the same size as a new Civic hatch
Chris Harris is keeping top gear alive
Honda needs a Fit R. 200hp 1.5T as light as possible, Independent rear suspension. That would fill the hole the EP3 left both performance and price wise. In the US I hope they release a Fit Si and Acura ILX-S. The ILX-S can be a toned down CTR. More grown up looks and also offer the 8DCT with the K20T motor. It would sell quite well.
Chris Broughton they should rename the ILX as Integra and make a Type R of it
Chris Broughton An old hatch with a stock k20 has everything you could hope for. I'd put my own gadgets in. Lol
I’ve got a 2018 Fit with a 6MT. If I have it revved out on a very tight backroad it’s a blast but anywhere that there is a straight away I wish I had at least 70 more hp and lb ft of torque. A Fit Si/Type R would be awesome but I doubt It’ll ever come to the states
I saw an older lady at the dealership the other day, I told her the acccords are over there, she was like “ oh nah, I’m looking for an hatchback civic “ I was shocked ! Everybody loves a hatchback civic
I donno how many times I have to say this: Chris Harris is the GOAT. No one can match his style of presenting, his automotive experience as well as knowledge and his attitude. Simply the best out there.
I love the looks of the new type r.....need to remember that looks are subjective....people hate the way the nissan juke looks yet the juke has great sales ever since it came out people have been buying it non stop.
my father got one of those and he's 50
2:20 VTEC JUST KICKED IN YOOOOOOOOOOOOO
My Mum bought a ep3 in 2001 the excitement when it arrived was unbeatable. A absolute brilliant car.
I’m 200 years old and this car looks good
WOW! Those roads are insanely narrow!!!! 😮
Honda makes the most balanced cars in the world (in price tag lower than $100k of course :)
"It looks like it appeals to young people lacking taste..."
Yup. Pretty much.
"Who's it aimed at" was an excellent question from Chris given its high-ish price.
CommaCam young, single, rich, or living at home kids with decent jobs is what they thought I'm assuming. But yeah, as a person who fits that description, I'd still rather buy the old one, wrx, or even a focus lol. This civic has got to be one of the worst looking body ever by them lol. I'd rather be slow and look sane...
I love the fact that it looks nuts
It doesn't though, it looks terrible.
Duct Tape It looks good until you see the back of it😂
I am in my late forties and absolutely love this car inside and out. They could've turned up the exhaust note a bit but other than that it's spot on.
I'm 33 and love the exterior looks, it has so much presence, I love it
Please please do the Hyundai i30 N
Eightosaurus Spelunk
Every review says it's a great car
I absolutely love my EP3, its not the fastest car in the world but my god is it fun to drive
Call me mad, but I'd rather the ep3 type r over the new type r
richboy900 Same
The design is awesome, the best looking type r and civic to date.
I really want the 2020/2021 model :)
@@ES-qe1nh interesting. Thank you for the suggestion. I'll give it a look. I'm not rushing into this, so I'm giving it plenty of research.
Just drove the new FK8 yesterday and its brilliant I've owned quick manual stuff all my life and I moved to an auto beemer last year basically because, everything good to drive seemed to be going DSG/Auto etc, but now im seriously thinking about buying one of these
Really growing to like this new type r, thinking I kinda want one. Looks have grown on me more over time somewhat. Wish they did a 3door version though, don't really need it to be so big.
I think the outside styling is made to lure generation X to buy it instead of the current generation. My generation of generation X loved loud and in your face exterior styling and that's exactly what this car is. I know I like it.
Mechanic Steve it's aimed at mellenials
I like it. I think I might get one (eventually).
It's definitely not aimed at millenials, we can't afford a 50 thousand euro car on zero hour contracts.
Aimed at Gen-X? Gen-X'ers were born and bred on the subtle flex... Merc 300E. Acura Legend. Acura Integra. 911 with whale's tail if you wanted to get fancy. I appreciate the aero on the new Type-R, but holy hell is it an ugly and busy design. If I wanted to buy an anime mech / gundam in automotive form....
Joshua V. you know millennials are people born in years 1981 through to 1997
so (rounding up seeing were a week away from the new year ) 37-21 year olds
I love the way it looks... beautiful!!!
Which one?
Best purchase I've ever made.
"this thing could easily be an accord". I'm sold. I drive a 56 plate Accord and love it. The only downside is that they have discontinued the Accord line in the UK, so years down the line I will have to look at other cars. This new civic is top of the list for me!
The 2017 type-R is sexy as hell
Quickest hot hatch around the ring, cool car for what it is.
Just picked up a 19...and it is actually amazing car
2001... I was 11 obsessed with muscle cars and hot rods. My favorite car at the time was a 59 impala
The best classic muscle car ever was the Nissan Fairlady
Kripke a fairly lady z was never a muscle car they were always purist sports cars. Most people don't understand what makes a real muscle car. A muscle car can't be small it has to be full size car. Most people don't realize mustangs aren't musclecars in fact they were invented as a solution and alternative to muscle cars.
I’m 53 and I thought it was a bit mad to look at but I bought a black one and I like it’s mad looks. It’s a great car can pick the kids up it will do over 40 mpg on motorway tax is only £150. It’s got great driver aids adaptive cruise. It’s fast can do track days brakes are powerful feels solid and planted I prefer it bigger - in car media is great speakers sound great the driving position is really nice I never want to get out of it I like the fact it looks likes a Batman car. School kids think it’s amazing - it’s not really loud enough the only gripe - for me I’d like stiffer suspension but not that it needs it it would just feel more visceral along with a noisy exhaust-
It is the best car on the road for high speed everyday use...amazing engine in fact the best engine in the world with its sodium cooled valves to its under tuned 320hp
Tough engine as well, I abuse mine on the track and it shows no sign of weakness (it overheats a bit when its really hot out), but other than that no problems.
I own an ep3 type R, best car iv ever had and i want to own the fk8 type R in a few years
Tiff Nedell and Chris Harris... Enough said!
Just getting one for my 60th Birthday 😀
Seen a lot of the younger generation driving this, I'm 33 and still want one of these.
7:43 nuringburg lap time. Enough said!
genuine review by chris. btw whats music in the background? anybody can guide me
The EP3 is an exellent car, give me one of those for 3k any day
I'm thinking of buying one of these in 2/3 years, shall I go through with it?
@@Denkmaldrubernacht well that's a long time to think about it but they are a really nice car if you can get a clean one I don't think you could go wrong.
@@Denkmaldrubernacht just sold my TT Quattro for one. Night and day. Such a good car. Sits very happily at 8,000 rpm, doesn't skip a beat. The previous owner had had it since 2007 and the only problem they ever had with it is a lambda sensor failed. In the 13 years of ownership nothing went wrong
Fd2 is better than ep3. Suapension was dialed in fd2. Ep3 suspension has a few design flaws
Chris Harris , you're the best automobile journalist, for sure. I haven't driven this car, hence, I take your word for it.
Im above that 18-24 age range Chris (just) and I love the looks of this car inside and out. It basically comes stock with a bodykit meaning you don’t have to pay to install one!
I like everything about it, but would prefer naturally aspirated higher revving engine ala S2000, and RWD.
Like literally an S2000 powertrain in this practical body would be perfection for a daily.
What is it with the ever louder music u can hardly hear chris
Wow I love the production quality here! And Chris Harris is very well spoken and a pleasure to watch!
I’m 48 and about to buy a bright red one. Love it.
Dude same here but the markups at places are horrible, Type R with 20k miles on it is like only 3k off MSRP. Better to buy new and pay delivery, I don't want anyone to rev it around before I baby it. That would piss me off.
Spot on review. It's great how you weren't afraid to point out the negatives, unlike other reviews of the Type-R I've seen. There is no one better for automotive journalism other than Chris Harris.