I’ve never understood this idea of the Hokage being purely a pencil pusher when Kakashi is literally the only Hokage not shown fighting a big threat while acting as kage. Hashi fought Madara, Tobi fought and died in the 1st shinobi war, Hiruzen stopped Orochimaru, Minato stopped Kurama, Tsunade fought in the 4th shinobi war, and Naruto is one of the only people capable of fighting Otsutsuki.
@@MFShro0m Yeah I know, my comment was more in response to the comment in the video about how “Even though Naruto is the Hokage we see him in a lot of Konoha’s battles” like of course you would he’s the Hokage.
@@Rachiesx3 I know. I was just stating how he’s the only Hokage we don’t see fight so it’s stupid to say it’s weird that Hokage Naruto fights the Leaf’s biggest threats.
One thing about Shisui, he was part of the Anbu. Members of the Anbu know a jutsu that completely dissolve your body in order to keep the villages secrets after their death. It would be completely logical fir Shisui to use this jutsu which explains why his corpse was never found
@El Malakh Feo no they say they couldnt find a corpse, at least im pretty sure about that, but i would have to rewatch I mean the fact that they couldnt find his corpse is basically the whope reason why this "shisui is alive" idea came up
@@valravnsshadow9422 i havent read the light novel, but Itachi didnt really need to kill him for MS. In the Anime we see Shisui throw himself down the cliff and Itachi activate MS. So if Shisui just throws himself of the cliff (after Itachi stabbed him or whatever) he could still use the Jutsu.
If Madara actually won, Naruto wouldn't lose Kurama in his dream... Also, there wouldn't be conflicts. The whole point of Infinite Tsukuyomi was to make a world with no pain, and with eternal peace.
yes to the kurama not dying no to the no conflict thing. if the point of the infinite tsukuyomi was to fulfill every ones desires then somebody who desired to become stronger like Naruto would have to have conflict in his ultimate Tsukuyomi in order to achieve that. a world with no pain does not mean a world with no fighting. it just means a world with no loss. so as long as naruto won every fight and never lost any one close to him the madara won theory could be plausible with one major exception. i cant imagine a naruto infinite tsukuyomi dream world that did not bring back all his lost friends and loved ones like neji, his parents, jiraya, and every one that died when the jubi attacked the allied shinobi forces headquarters. them not being brought back to life at the end of the series automatically disproves the theory in my opinion.
Sarada is unironically one of the few good things to come out of Boruto. Also, I absolutely love the idea of Sarada becoming Hokage and Tobirama just screaming in his grave
Tobirama didn’t hate Uchihas he was just always skeptical of them because of their curse of hatred. One of his personal escorts and subordinates was an uchiha… he wouldn’t have any problems with Sarada as she is now.
3:50-10:05 First theory "Madara actually won the 4th shinobi war." 10:05-15:41 Second theory "Orochimaru is plotting to steal Sarada's or Mitsuki's body." 15:41-19:42 Third theory "The Konoha village acted as terrible as they could to Naruto so he'd be hokage material." 19:42-23:45 Fourth theory "Shisui is still alive." 23:45-25:46 Fifth theory "Sarada is going to follow the steps of her father." yw to the people who were trying to find when each theory actually happened.
Not much of a theory, but I had an idea on why the Tenseigan seemingly randomly has a chakra mode It’s evolved from the Byakugan, which can produce chakra from each of the user’s chakra points rather than just hands and feet like the average person. What if Toneri is actually producing chakra from each of his chakra points at once, forming a cloak around him?
I thought everyone produced chakra from their chakra points. Its just that due to byakugan and gentle fist's precise control hyugas could do it better.
@@rohannalawade3227 it takes a LOT of concentration for anyone who doesn’t have a byakugan to produce chakra from anywhere except their hands and feet nevermind all of them at once
@@FrogdogAddons I mean it was made from Hamura so it should have six paths chakra that’s why he gets the truth orbs and chakra cloak it’s like kurama cuz he is producing so much chakra he forms a cloak
My theory about tobi's identity. Obito was too obvious. The only other uchiha that we knew we had relevant information on was shisui uchiha. At the time shippuden aired, going off part one knowledge only. shisui uchiha fell off a cliff to his death. We later find out he has a teleportion jetsu with his name being Shisui of the Body Flicker Now think about how a fall can kill him when he can body flicker away to safety. Until the truth about the poison bugs and obito face is shown.
Naruto’s upbringing and backstory is borderline a plot hole in itself. Because based on everything we know about his background, there is no reasonable way anyone would have treated Naruto like that
Exactly also Uzumaki is his surname. So the clan that was got wiped, the last known being the wife of the 4th Hokage... how the fuck would no one piece together "Hey this demon kid has the same last name as the wife of the 4th hokage, who was also the jinchuuriki of the nine tails." Like c'mon anyone with a brain would have known he was the 4th Hokage's son and thus still respected him because of his parents sacrifice and of course it was the 4th who sealed the kurama away so again how.
@@TheLastSane1 few points: 1) judging by how the birth of Naruto was hidden from everyone but those closest to Minato and Kushina aka Hiruzen and Biwako, Fugaku and Mikoto, Kakashi, and possibly the Hirashin Squad, the Marriage between Minato and Kushina may have been hidden as well to which would explain why Kushina still had her surname instead of Minato’s. 2)The people of Konoha were told Minato killed the Nine Tails. 3) Naruto had his parentage hidden by Hiruzen and Danzō to make him less of a target for Kumo and Tsuchi to kidnap for revenge. 4) not everyone knew who everyone was in their village which why only those relatively close to Kushina and/or Minato could have guessed Naruto was their child regardless if they knew of the two of them getting together. 5) And most importantly, Grief and Anger can blind people to the obvious separately but together, it’s worse. Only people like Teuchi, who wasn’t blinded by grief and anger, saw who Naruto was not what he contained and could figure out his parentage.
@@darach2399 His birth was not hidden, and Kakashi KNEW Kushina was Minatos wife, they got publicly married and she had an anbu ninja assigned to her for her protection. Naruto getting her surname and being outted as the Nine-tails was the dumbest thing because everyone should have known Kushina was the host of the ninetails and she died that night and suddenly this other kid called Uzumaki shows up with it (also the clan is dead as fuck by this point so the only way he is one is through Kushina) so they should have known he was Minatos kid. The real answer is Kushina and all that was created long after the series was first thought up.
@@darach2399 no one thought Minato killed the Ninetails. The entire reasoning behind the hate Naruto got was the fact that he was the Ninetails or had it inside him. Even the opening prologue (which I assume is the in-universe history version of the night, it's the only way to justify the blatent retcon of the event) says Minato sealed it.
It makes sense that people hated him and feared him. They saw what the ninetails did to their village in just a couple of hours if that. Plus the citizens needed someone to take the blame otherwise they would have fallen apart. Everyone hates Dando for this but you can't deny that he understands folk better than most.
Orchimaru always had the perfect host in karen. I never understood why he didn’t steal her bodie and modify just a little bit. Chakra reserves are probably the most important thing in Naruto. As for tsukiuomi there all in it till this day 😂
My theory: Medical Ninjutsu is definitively Yang Release. When Naruto asked about Genjutau and Medical Ninjutsu, Kakashi and Yamato mentioned Yin and Yang. We later found out Yin Release is Genjutsu. This leaves Yang Release to provide us with Medical Ninjutsu. Plus, the Senju tend to be really good at both. This further hints at a correlation between the two.
If you're talking about the Naruto theory, you could say that Hiruzen acted as a netural person in Naruto's life to let him grow by giving him bare minimum necessities, and not reveal much about him, but the whole village hating him and all that is too much.
My favorite Theory / retcon of the show is why they didn't tell Naruto he was the fourth hokages kid. This reason being because Minato was such a badass during the war, but he was Infamous everywhere that wasn't the leaf Village. So people seeking Revenge would go after his kid if they knew he had one. Which isn't all that outlandish because Hinata was kidnapped twice for her Byakugan.
So here's an idea, fan theories that paid off. Like how the Naruto community theorized that the rinnegan statue was the body of the ten tails before that was revealed.
Imagine how different thing would have been if Hirozen had assigned a member of the anbu to raise and take care of Naruto. I mean he was the 4th Hokages son, even if it was just until Naruto graduated from the academy
He could have been a child of the entire village. THAT would have made him Hokage material. Each day a different Jonin of Chuunin shows up to keep an eye on him and teach him stuff. Maybe some treat him better than others, but never a "golden child" or "prince". Just tell him that since he doesn't have parents, someone is assigned to keep an eye on him. Do the same with Sasuke. Maybe they get better/higher level guardains, but you could do this with ALL orphans. And then each of them would grow up seeing the whole village as their family and more willing to defend and support it.
hiruzen had his anbu keep tabs on naruto they just didnt interact with him up close they were ordered only to observe an if the worst came about the anbu would capture kurama and seal him they were certainly capable of doing so since a member of their rank "Tenzo" had hashirama's dna not to mention the anbu commander's themselves squared off against pain's giant summons an mopped the floor with them effortlessly. the anbu surveillance was the compromise that hiruzen had to make in order to appease his councilors and danzo.
One of these days Naruto is going to wake up and we'll get more shippuden. Memes aside, from what I hear, Boruto is starting to really pick up if you're ok with them fighting literal aliens and cyborgs than actual ninja.
@@Vorusen I got no problems with the concepts it's just the outsutsuki threats are basically kaguya but if she knew how to fight The cyborgs are garbage like dbz knew how to make them cool plus their abilities literally just turn this into boruto, Kawaki hope trip like no one else can touch them their going to have to pull some BS to do something(like madara) otherwise what can they do Kawaki will leave but then what
@@hoifzf very true, DBZ did the androids so well that they are still some of peoples favorite characters years later. When andriod 17 popped up for super I WAS FUCKING HYYYYYYPED. I will give it to Boruto though, the ninja tech is a really good idea and that should have been as "futuristic" as it should have gotten. Makes sense that they would want to create a device that allows less skilled ninja to mold chakra better or even outright do jutsu for them like how scrolls work.
Boruto is more likely to become an antagonist than Sarada is. Especially considering that he is like 80% Otsusuki. So here's my theory: First episode of Boruto we saw him and Kawaki talking. What people figure is that Kawaki is the antagonist. But I am actually thinking that it is the inverse. Kawaki is on the same side as Naruto and Sarada whereas Boruto's views are distorted. Eventhough he says he is the last Ninja in that flash forward, he actually says that he is the last Otsusuki. Momoshiki is mostly under control but gives Boruto a distorted view of what is happening in order to ensure that Boruto doesn't suppress him again.
I mean, i would assume that orochimaru just shoves himself into a clone body. That way he can get any kekkei genkai he wants and it's more ethical than actual people if he hops in before they have a personality
At 6:30 you said Sasuke got a Rinnesharingan. However, it's just a special Rinnegan. The reason it has the Rinnesharingan pattern is because when you obtain a set of Rinnegan through the usual method, it overwrites your Mangekyou Sharingan, and becomes a normal Rinnegan. However, Sasuke's was given to him by Hagoromo, and so it kept his MS abilities, and they manifest in the form of the choko-tomoe in his Rinnegan. His right eye summons Amaterasu, and his Rinnnegan can still shape the flames and extinguish them. Another thing, the Rinnesharingan is always red, and has three sets of tomoe instead of just two.
Actually your wrong, his rinnegan is like that because he only has one, the only other 2 people to get rinnegan have had 2 (Madara and Hagoromo) which have 2 different abilites, but sasuke only has one which would require it to be as powerful as 2 so he got his ms abilites and his rinnegan ability.
Ok, there's a lot you're wrong on in this one paragraph. First of all, *you're. Second, your argument is incorrect. Sasuke has tomoe in his Rinnegan because it was given to him by the Sage of Six Paths, Hagoromo Otsutsuki. Instead of overwriting his EMS abilities like awakening a double Rinnegan would, Sasuke kept his EMS abilities, and so Kishimoto purposefully gave Sasuke tomoe to show the fact that he didn't lose them. This is only further proven by the fact that Madara lost his EMS, and they were instead turned into a Rinnegan with no tomoe. You can literally see his eyes transform when he's about to be hit by Naruto's Rasenshuriken.
@@lordepsilon617 It wasnt lmao. It has been proven in the databooks that "Whoever posses a mangekyou or eternal mangekyou sharingan and awakens only one rinnegan gets the "Six-Tomoe Rinnegan" (Rinnegan abilites + ms abilites).
Awakening the sharingan doesn't have to be out of hate. The special Chakra begins to flow into their optic nerve when they have an extremely intense emotional moment. Sasuke was seeing his dead parents and brother. Madara was because he broke his friendship with Hashirama, Obito awakened his from his strong will to keep his friends safe. No hatred needs to be involved to unlock either Sharingan or Mangekyo haringan
Sarada betraying the village doesn't make any sense if you think about that in OG team 7, there was 1 bad guy, 1 good guy and 1 person that loves the bad guy, well since Boruto is already kinda the bad guy and Mitsuke loves Boruto then who do you have left? i wonder how you can defend this argument..
I love how you got proved wrong fast by kishimoto sarada did betray the village to help Boruto I know you made this before chapter 80 so you should go read it
For that first theory, if we only look the end of shippuden, it can kinda make sense. Aliens come about and tell you that they were the ones causing all the bad things. It shifts blame away from people for being terrible and moves it to something outside. Not saying this is a good theory or anything, just saying there is still some logic in it when looked at in a vacuum
It was perfectly plausible until certain parts of Boruto came out. The only thing that really hurts it’s plausibility is Kurama sacrificing himself to enable barrion mode
@@MFShro0m But that also depends on how much you’re willing to stretch Naruto’s need for hardship and conflict. Remember, Naruto said “I don’t want the easy path, I would to navigate the hard path”, this would involve loss, hardship, and overcoming those losses and hardships. So the theory still makes sense within its premise, yes they had losses but they still won…for now.
@@charleschiemekaekeogu6908 I forgot he said that. Yeah earlier I was wondering how exactly the infinite tsukuyomi worked as in, is the dream world your version of an absolutely perfect world where nothing goes wrong or is it the reality that you would find the most enjoyable and rewarding even if that meant that ‘bad’ things and bad things would happen in it? If it’s the latter then naruto missing his inauguration due to himawari hitting a vital chakra points could plausibly happen in Naruto’s dream world as altho things go tits up at his expense, what happens is funny to most viewers and if Naruto was watching his dream unfold he’d probably find it funny too. Then going back to the him being fine with experiencing loss and hardships (with him possibly considering them necessary for his own self-fulfilment), while he’s lost Kurama for now tailed beasts can’t be permanently killed and will reappear at some point if they ‘die’. When that happens naruto will be reunited with him, an old friend, like how he was eventually reunited with sasuke at the end of shippuden. Naruto and sasuke each losing an arm fits in with the whole hardships thing too and it’d be interesting if in his dream he sub-consciously nerfed himself and sasuke to undo some of the broken power scaling we saw towards the end of shippuden which would help in a whole bunch of different ways
@@MFShro0m Exactly, also it would explain why Naruto dreamt of world conquering Aliens because at the end of Shippuden, he was literally THE STRONGEST man alive along with Sasuke who he had already made peace with. There’s no ONE left on the planet to give Naruto a challenge which would explain why Naruto would need extraterrestrials to generate conflict because no one apart from Sasuke can even stand up to him.
That's not Naruto's IS dream, it's Goku's. A big showdown with your rival who at the end of it finally comes around to your line of thinking followed by a constant stream of increasingly powerful foes to fight and a son who is just as keen to fight as you, differing motivations aside.
Fun new theory: Madara's constant fights with Hashirama is clearly a representation of his sexual frustration and suppressed fantasies. Madara likes to be "put in his place", and since Hashirama is the only man who can successfully do that, he keeps challenging him just to get excited from loosing. Madara is very clearly into that. Why else would you keep challenging the man, when you CLEARLY know you can't win? He even admitted that multiple times! Because deep inside he doesn't want to win - he wants Hashirama to screw him over. And then he got even more frustrated because Hashirama married and stopped playing "beat me up if you can" roleplay with him. Have fun with that, gang.
Do you know how Boruto punched Naruto in the stomach because he was sending shadow clones to take care of his family life? Could it be so that fishcake was inspired by how lord third Sarutobi Hiruzen’s behavior was? The citizens of Konoha were mean by Danzo’s guiding allusion. Garra showed Uzumaki how he could become instead but team 7 and a fleeting crush gave him hope for not being self-imposing isolated. That was the all I really wanted to comment on.
Yes Gaara still had his dad... who used him as a weapon, and sent assassins after him multiple times to KILL HIS OWN SON!. He even sent the ONE PERSON who Gaara believed to love him; his uncle; to kill Gaara.... How is that not worse than what Naruto saw subjected to.
THANK YOU NICK! I have been telling people that infinite tsukuyomi is just tsukuyomi but infinite/forever runs on the moons life force and not the user but no people are idiots and think it’s completely different from itachis
I like that the same people that hate hiruzen because he can’t take care of naruto defend naruto for not taking care of boruto, and Jiraiya the god father is like no where to be found
🤣 the way Jiraiya's hair perfectly lines up with the door handle makes it look like he's holding a sword with his hair. I was so confused for a second! 🤣
Oh god I'm just now realizing that the time manipulation part of the Infinite Tsukuyomi quite possibly implies that everyone under it lived who knows how many lives in their head during the brief time team 7 was fighting Madara and Kaguya. Thank god Kishimoto ignored that. Also I'd like to note that Hiruzen may not be a bad guy but by golly is he shit at keeping promises about taking care of kids. After just rewatching I noticed he also promised Itachi he would keep Sasuke safe growing up. He did a shit job with both the protagonists and with one of them they actually did go full monster with it.
I mean when you got to see everyone else's tsukuyomi dream, not everything was perfect all the time. In Tsunade's dream, she was reading Jiraya's writings and Sasuke and Naruto had a final fight in that too. Anything could really happen
More on the infinite tsukuyomi was actually a success: Lets not forget that Naruto not only dreamed of the main villain dying, but then randomly created a new main villain to take over immediately, and look at what this new main villain does. She killed a recently redeemed Obito. Naruto's talk no jutsu was once again successful and caused Obito to come back to the light...and he dreamed of his new "friend"/comrade, who shared the same dream as him, dying to save his life. Just dream Obito had enough time and chakra left to kamui away BOTH bone spears! Is Naruto so psychotically used to tragedy in his life that he cant fathom even dreaming of a situation where everything just...works out? He's literally seen 3 different instances with Chiyo, Nagato, and Obito using jutsu to bring people back from the dead, and he couldn't dream that his new super awesome 6th path powers that can save the life of a person who opened up the 8th gate and create entirely new body parts when giving Kakashi his eye back couldn't just bring back some dead people? At least Neji? Naruto's been dreaming big since literally the start of the series. His dreams and determination to see that dream through is the driving point of his character. Naruto can dream bigger than "I guess tons of people still died and I can't do a damn thing about it". If anything its an insult to his character to say that his dream wouldn't have EVERYONE alive. Dude would probably find a way to bring Jiraiya and his parents back and restore the Uchiha for Sasuke if this was truly all just his dream. That theory is absolutely dumb and heinous.
20:51-21:00 Don't forget Shisui died with no eyes while Itachi died with both eyes, anything done with Itachi's eyes afterwards was irrelevant in the case of edo Itachi. For reference edo Nagato was still frail, grey haired, and had limited mobility before absorbing Killer B's chakra, so edo Shisui would likely not have eyes at all. I do admit however that maybe Kabuto could have done something special with Shisui's reanimation similar to what he did with edo Madara, but I'll let other people give their thoughts on if he would and how that would have played out.
Just some theories/questions of mine. We know you don't have to own the mangekyo sharingan to activate it's susanoo from kakashi and sasuke said you need 2 mangekyo sharingan to awaken a susanoo so do both of the mangekyo have to be yours? Meaning could I take Obito's mangekyo sharingan and Itachi's mangekyo and get a susanoo? Also another theory I truly believe to be facts. Mangkeyo sharingan abilities are awakened based off of the person's desires/personality kinda. For example Obito hated the world he lived in so he got the ability to go to kamui... another world obviously. Sasuke wanted to burn konoha so he got amaterasu and flame control. Shisui hated war and wanted people to know what he thinks about it (don't know how to explain it that well but yknow what I mean). Itachi pondered about genjutsu and reality so he got tsukuyomi and kishimoto takes mangekyo sharingan ability names and stuff from japan mythology and in japan mythology tsukuyomi and amaterasu the sun god are married so itachi got amaterasu along with tsukuyomi. List goes on.
My theory is that the Orochimaru we see in the fourth great ninja war isn’t actually the one we met originally. Instead it’s an immortal Clone based on his students memories of him. Mostly good. With just a drop of poison. One could argue he was slowly descended down that bad path while training her.
The Boruto Infinite Tsukiyomi Dream always angered so much. Incoming rant!🚨📟⚠️ Naruto wanted his best friend to die, his son to be a product of Human trafficking, his other best friend to lose his eye, his other son to be imprinted on by a sus alien, Jiraiya, Neji, and all the other good people, like Itachi are dead!? Even though every other character's dream there people were all still alive, the love of his life crying, to be an absentee father, and so,so,so much worse things to happen!? Yes, such a beautiful dream
I remmeber telling all the anime-tubers that the infinite tsukiyomi was just a tool to create more filler in the anime. Im glad i was the one to realize that, makes me feel smart
i was just scrolling in your channel hoping that there is a video i haven't watched yet then this notification popped up. you're a real life saver nick
15:57 actually to be fair, Hiruzen did give Naruto a house, not an apartment. And Naruto never really gets mad at Hiruzen for how he treated him, yet does with the rest of the village.
Also the main reason Orochimaru even wanted the Sharingan overall was to defeat Itachi and Madara and prevent himself from being put in genjutsus to which he thought was his main weakness(basically was). But now both of them are dead and hes basically friends with Sasuke at this point or atleast he respects Sasuke and so he doesn't care about it anymore or wouldn't need it.
Sarada...an antagonist...? Nah if anything it's that Boruto kid we've gotta watch...mans is like, 80% Otsutsuki... He's got alien god eyes, and he's got, while not as extreme, that chip on his shoulder like old Sasuke with a bit of his dad thrown in. That being said, anyone notice that Boruto originally was like, Sasuke Uchiha 2.0, but looks like Naruto? Because I did, and it made me laugh. That makes me think though...if Naruto was about breaking the Cycle of Hatred... Is Boruto going to be about the eventual unification of humanity against interstellar threats? We went from cruel facts of life to Halo real fast.
Actually the Infinite Tsukiyomi was Hinata's and not Naruto's. Which explains why Sasuke is barely even in the Leaf village, because she's jealous of their bond. Also explains why in The Last literally OUT OF NOWHERE Hinata becomes the other half of Naruto. Even stealing his characteristic purple aura. Kurama also dies for a similar reason, in a "Just Monica" scenario. Also that is because she wanted her family the Hyuga clan to be more relevant. So she basically said "yeah and we're the sons of aliens, suck it Uchihas!"
everybody seems to love the "it's all some character's dream in a coma" theories, but I would be willing to bet anything that if they made those canon, those same people would be very angry.
I think the theory Naruto being in a genjutsu makes sense BECAUSE whatever happens next doesn't make sense. In other words, the Otsusukis, the moon, karma and all of that doesn't make sense in a dream, so it makes sense "IN REALITY"???
I agree. It's kinda like the "Indoctrination Theory" in Mass Effect. Most people that follow it(myself included) do so as a way to explain the parts of the story that don't make sense, or are just crazy. I understand that it's not canon, but the theory makes more sense to me than the actual story.
I’m pretty sure he mentioned that in one of his videos, it was one about which relationships actually made sense in the naruto story, can’t remember the tittle though
@@oblivion2061 Yeah. It's the one where he says that Sarada should be stronger than a hypothetical Karin/ Sasuke child, [which I strongly disagree with].
@@quentinjones6877 Plus, all of Sakura's abilities that he mentioned there (super strength, super speed etc) are learned abilities via Tsunade's chakra control techniques not specific to Sakura's bloodline. If Sakura becomes Karin/ Sasuke's godmother of sorts like Karin is for Sarada, Sakura could just teach this hypothetical child these techniques. Which would be absolutely broken.
Honestly, the first theory to me is because of how Madara ended. Madara was dogging Naruto and friends for years of our lives. You could sum up seasons on this show by just saying Madara is like that. Then out of nowhere’s Kaguya drops in and fucks him immediately. And then she loses what felt like immediately to these sorry ass main characters. Naruto never actually beat this guy.
Yea I really don't get how it isn't clear that Shisui can use it more than just ten years, there's a reason he was known for using it and even was gonna cast it on the Uchiha
You kinda glossed over it, but the clip you played summed it up nicely, Ao specifies that Danzo's EYE has Shisui's chakra, not the whole arm, he just notes that there's something off with the chakra in his arm, and he was seeing Hashirama cells. For the record I actually don't think the Shisui being alive theory is THAT bad, as you said, the corpse was never found, same with Jiraiya's, yet it WAS found at some point by Amado and used to clone Jiraiya into Koji. I could see Shisui's body at least being used as a similar plot device in the future, although the odds are low and it's most likely that Shisui will just stay gone.
sarada didnt awaken her sharingan through love it was also sadness, thats the whole reason she has glasses, they gave them to her at such a young age because thats when she unlocked them and said to sakura that somthing was wrong with her eyes so they used it as a cover up
no she unlocks from seeing sasuke and she has glasses because kishiminto like the design and also she got sick as a kid and sasuke has bad eyesight anyways
so one of the reasons i used to think shisui was still alive was because at one point in the manga itachi says he "faked his death and disappeared" however that might have just been a mistranslation fron the scan i read or maybe kishimoto was thinking about bringing him back for a second. every other time its mentioned though it just says he killed himself so even if it was not a mistranslation i think its pretty clear kishimoto decided to keep him dead. also i think shisui was meant to be a red haring to hide obitos identity so thats also why theirs alot of vaugness around his death. think about it shisui has a vauge off screen death, he has a similar appearance to obito, we did not know barely anything about him, and his nickname was shisui the teleporter suggesting he had a similar ability to obito. all these things make him the perfect red herring. i think that alot of shisuis design and story was done the way it was so he could mislead us into thinking he was the one behind the mask and because of that his death was intentionally made vauge so we would doubt it. though i think this was dropped around the five kage summit ark as kishimoto now wanted us to think obito was madara which is why we got introduced to alot of information about shisui and his abilities during that time. so overall i dont think its a dumb theory because theirs enough in universe evidence to suggest he could have survived. its only when you go out of universe and ask yourself if the writer would want him to survive that the cracks start to form. oh and im talking about it prior to its official debunking in the novel. if you still belive the theory now its dumb but that does not mean it was a dumb theory back in the day.
Here's a theory: Madara and the Uchiha promoted keeping relations within the clan because that would mean his descendants could take any other clan member's eyes and get EMS... Ya know, because incest is wincest and this would make everyone closely related after a few generations.
I always assumed it would make more sense given how much Sharingan genjutsu can manipulate people that no one really wanted to marry them because it is basiclly near perfect gaslighting lol
@@carrot6525 No, the fact that clans have their own distinct features means they are extremely inbred. Red hair is a super rare hair color, yet pretty much all Uzumakis had it, indicating basically no genetic diversity. Real life clans and dynasties function the same way, they keep it in the family and all of it is on purpose.
the writer : the village hated naruto and the 3th hokage only gives naruto money monthly. the stupid theory : the village hated naruto to make him hokage material the writer : the village fucking hates naruto until naruto saves the village.
I think that Naruto lost in six path Sage mode was because he could only do baryon mode because he had that six paths chakra if he didn’t he would’ve probably ended up dying from chakara exhaustion Which is why no other Jinchuricy have shown it off up this point Just a fun little theory
I completely believe Nick during the ad reads simply for the fact I think he himself is genuine but every time he taste tests something his physically reaction is like he broke a tooth XD
I have been saying that stuff about the first theory for so long,but no one listens. To add to it,we literally got a spin off story by Kishimoto and a movie that revolves around what Naruto's Infinite Tsukuyomi would be. If Naruto fell under the Genjutsu,his dream would be having his parents around. That is not in the end of Shippuden,The Last,or Boruto. "Hiruzen raised Naruto shitty on purpose" sounds like such an awful take. If Iruka hadn't stepped up,Naruto would have ended up like Gaara. Naruto even says that himself. Hiruzen raising Naruto badly on purpose,that just get the village destroyed. Sarada didn't actually active her Sharingan from wanting to see her father. In the Anime's rewrite of the Gaiden,which I am not a fan of,it says Sarada unlocked her Sharingan at quite a young age due to the pain of not having a father and it started reactivating again,her extra blurry eyesight,before the Gaiden arc because of the thoughts of her father,kinda like how Sasuke actually activated his Sharingan for the first time after the massacre and just didn't realize it. So hers isn't from hatred,but it's not from anything positive either.
I Might have to correct on 15:06 cuz if you seen the first fight between Naruto and Shin clone with Sarada and cho cho Included the little shin have Ms so basically every Shin clone have their own Ms that why Shin Uchiha if damaged Uses other clone so i thought you might have been wrong here about not having Ms in Shin clone but you did not mention it
The one where madara actually won kinda counters everything you said because it’s confirmed madara can edit traits about the infinite tsukuomi so he could change it to where it isn’t perfect and seems like real life so no one realizes there in a dream.
Zetsu could also do the asspull of betraying him and manipulating the genjutsu himself to turn it into a nightmare, and I think that's what happened, that's why we have burrito
A theory I had was Obito was planning to use Kisame as his next Jinchurki after Yagra and basically engineered him into what would've been a personal engine of destruction between Kisame already being a freak of nature in terms of his physical abilities, skill with water jutsu and naturally massive chakra pools, and Samehada. Like his kit would be perfect for the Three Tails and it makes his nickname of the tailless tailed beast a but more interesting.
At this point i really hope everything happened in the the infinite tsuko Like what's the worst that could happen? No time travel no boruto no useless kids no lee not knowing who his wife is. no kaguya no God level no nerf sasuke. it all sounds good to me.
Nearly all fan theories are by definition irrational. If the writers wanted you to know something they make it known or they leave you guessing purposefully and likely didn’t actually form a conclusion for whatever they were trying to lead you to.
@6 paths I'd say nagato tbhhh , his rennegone isn't to play with, and his Chakra supply, MAN! But, Kalashi is a super strategist and his DMS is the strongest in the war arch (thx obito), so it's hard for me to say
"Sorry I mixed up President and School Shooter" has got to be one of the absolutely funniest things Ive heard on this website in 11 years that made me cry thank u Hammer homie.
The Infinite Tsukuyomi worked theory makes a lot more sense if you change 1 minor detail. It's not Naruto's dream we see, it's Sasuke's. He gets to be welcomed back to the place that should have been his home, and the guy that annoyed the piss out of him for years is a bad parent.
So... Edo Tensei brings you back how you were when you died. This is why the third is old. So the Itachi having eyes after being brought back does not disprove Shisui in and of itself. Given that Itachi's eyes were taken after death and Shisui was very much alive with no eyes and it was not the lack of eyes that killed him. Now I am unsure if this was intended to be implied. but Tsukuyomi can stretch time a long longer than 72 hours...see Izumi Uchiha The first theory is so stupid though. It is clearly all of Naruto is basicly just Kakashi in Tsukuyomi from the start of the series. All the pain and sorrow is just because Kakashi is so damn smart Itachi knew he had to ad it to his comrad to get him to believe it. But the whole story, Kakshi training with two people he would get be able to understand plus Sakura. They show the understand and value of comrads like he had tested other for. then Itachi, Kakshi gets to see his father during Pain arch. Gets to see his old squad mate in Obito and find closure for what happened with Rin. Gets to see his old sensai again. Becomes Hokage gets to see someone like his old squad mate become hokage.... and yet some how ¨Maradra wins¨ is what people go for. Look they are both really stupid. but a lot of it just sounds like people who hate Boruto trying to write it off as not real.
Laws of edo tensei are pretty inconsistent, minato comes back but doesnt have a massive hole in his chest, but when nagato comes back to life, he cant use his legs.
@@gentletal5101 Madara didn't come back with rinnegans. Nagato died with his. And itachi died with his eyes still in his head. Plus the third hokage came back old. So no on several points
For the last one Sardara always followed Narutos steps and that adds to both our theorys Boruto is evil It just makes sense idk why people think kawaki is couse I agree boruto kinda sucks but not so much with such a obvious storyline c'mon it's not that bad atleast when it advances and also it makes more sense when u realise boruto even knows that sasuke was evil but sardara doesnt 👇
@@neonicon8500 if u dont even know the basic it's a otsusuki who put his life on boruto where he will rebirth and so maybe borutos body gets taken over
well naruto wouldn't have invented otsutsukis because when madara activates infinite tsukuyomi him and sasuke have already met hahoromo and learned about kaguya
I’ve never understood this idea of the Hokage being purely a pencil pusher when Kakashi is literally the only Hokage not shown fighting a big threat while acting as kage. Hashi fought Madara, Tobi fought and died in the 1st shinobi war, Hiruzen stopped Orochimaru, Minato stopped Kurama, Tsunade fought in the 4th shinobi war, and Naruto is one of the only people capable of fighting Otsutsuki.
Yeah the kage always step up when a kage level threat emerges
Kakashi oversaw the village during peace times
@@MFShro0m Yeah I know, my comment was more in response to the comment in the video about how “Even though Naruto is the Hokage we see him in a lot of Konoha’s battles” like of course you would he’s the Hokage.
@@Rachiesx3 I know. I was just stating how he’s the only Hokage we don’t see fight so it’s stupid to say it’s weird that Hokage Naruto fights the Leaf’s biggest threats.
"Blow up the moon" - Kakashi.
Yeah I think its mostly because he was Hokage in peace, Biggest threat was on the moon,
One thing about Shisui, he was part of the Anbu. Members of the Anbu know a jutsu that completely dissolve your body in order to keep the villages secrets after their death. It would be completely logical fir Shisui to use this jutsu which explains why his corpse was never found
Dis definitely explains a lot about Shisui🧐🧐
@El Malakh Feo no they say they couldnt find a corpse, at least im pretty sure about that, but i would have to rewatch
I mean the fact that they couldnt find his corpse is basically the whope reason why this "shisui is alive" idea came up
He didn't use the jutsu on himself. If he did then Itachi wouldn't have gotten his MS since Itachi needed to kill Shisui to get it.
@@valravnsshadow9422 i havent read the light novel, but Itachi didnt really need to kill him for MS. In the Anime we see Shisui throw himself down the cliff and Itachi activate MS. So if Shisui just throws himself of the cliff (after Itachi stabbed him or whatever) he could still use the Jutsu.
@@valravnsshadow9422 Thats just false, It was a lie made by Itachi to make Sasuke into his puppet-kinda.
Wht would have happened if madara was in love with tobirama instead of hashirama?🤔🤔😂😂
Would get married
@@hadiisaguy6328 murdered*
What if the reason Tobirama hates madara is because Madara took his Uchiha lover from Tobirama?
@@leonglitch I mean that is marriage
@@lordhades598 ohhh it all makes sense now madara cheated on him
8:13 “Everybody from the Konoha 13 seems really happy-“
Neji in his grave: >:(
If Madara actually won, Naruto wouldn't lose Kurama in his dream... Also, there wouldn't be conflicts. The whole point of Infinite Tsukuyomi was to make a world with no pain, and with eternal peace.
yes to the kurama not dying no to the no conflict thing. if the point of the infinite tsukuyomi was to fulfill every ones desires then somebody who desired to become stronger like Naruto would have to have conflict in his ultimate Tsukuyomi in order to achieve that. a world with no pain does not mean a world with no fighting. it just means a world with no loss. so as long as naruto won every fight and never lost any one close to him the madara won theory could be plausible with one major exception. i cant imagine a naruto infinite tsukuyomi dream world that did not bring back all his lost friends and loved ones like neji, his parents, jiraya, and every one that died when the jubi attacked the allied shinobi forces headquarters. them not being brought back to life at the end of the series automatically disproves the theory in my opinion.
@@youcanthandlemyname7393 nah Madara still won
Jiraiya and Neji would definitely be alive in Naruto’s dream.
Burito is fan fiction
@@protocetus499 your sheer denial is just hilarious
I didn't know people actually believed that "Madara won" theory, I thought we were all joking lmao
Madara did win I believe in it more than i believe in live being real
I personally don't "believe it"
(Get it? Because that's one of Naruto's quotes.)
@@Mr.Needle-Hamster LAMEEEEEEEEEEE
@@ScarlettTheGoat-s8s Okay it was kinda lame, but it sounded funny in my head
@@Mr.Needle-Hamster lmao
Sarada is unironically one of the few good things to come out of Boruto. Also, I absolutely love the idea of Sarada becoming Hokage and Tobirama just screaming in his grave
Tobirama: guess what I'm descendamt of hagoromo so I'll do an asspull rn
*Revives himself and kills sarada when she becomes hokage*
Tobirama didn’t hate Uchihas he was just always skeptical of them because of their curse of hatred. One of his personal escorts and subordinates was an uchiha… he wouldn’t have any problems with Sarada as she is now.
@@samwhite3792 He hated them.
It didn’t happen but it should have
@@MrSasukeSusanoo Borate would kill hi in seconds
3:50-10:05 First theory "Madara actually won the 4th shinobi war."
10:05-15:41 Second theory "Orochimaru is plotting to steal Sarada's or Mitsuki's body."
15:41-19:42 Third theory "The Konoha village acted as terrible as they could to Naruto so he'd be hokage material."
19:42-23:45 Fourth theory "Shisui is still alive."
23:45-25:46 Fifth theory "Sarada is going to follow the steps of her father."
yw to the people who were trying to find when each theory actually happened.
Nicee ty
The second theory seems actually what is happening but the mutsuki bodies are not stable enough
Thanks bro
@@leopardtree2249 yea
Also yw this took like 20-30 minutes because he had the theories mixed up.
Not much of a theory, but I had an idea on why the Tenseigan seemingly randomly has a chakra mode
It’s evolved from the Byakugan, which can produce chakra from each of the user’s chakra points rather than just hands and feet like the average person.
What if Toneri is actually producing chakra from each of his chakra points at once, forming a cloak around him?
I thought everyone produced chakra from their chakra points. Its just that due to byakugan and gentle fist's precise control hyugas could do it better.
@@rohannalawade3227 it takes a LOT of concentration for anyone who doesn’t have a byakugan to produce chakra from anywhere except their hands and feet nevermind all of them at once
@@FrogdogAddons I mean it was made from Hamura so it should have six paths chakra that’s why he gets the truth orbs and chakra cloak it’s like kurama cuz he is producing so much chakra he forms a cloak
Have you thought that just maybe it's because it's six paths energy?
@@FrogdogAddons yea like the lightning cloak
The best representation of Cycle of Hate closing would have been Naruto and Sasuke getting married
My theory about tobi's identity.
Obito was too obvious.
The only other uchiha that we knew we had relevant information on was shisui uchiha.
At the time shippuden aired, going off part one knowledge only.
shisui uchiha fell off a cliff to his death.
We later find out he has a teleportion jetsu with his name being
Shisui of the Body Flicker
Now think about how a fall can kill him when he can body flicker away to safety.
Until the truth about the poison bugs and obito face is shown.
Body flicker isn't actual teleportation, it's just moving fast enough go give the illusion of teleportation
I wanted it to be Izuna
@@AnkouFJ right
I thought tobi may have been one of danzo's top men who he gave a sharingan to blend in and spy on itachi.
The name gave it away. The moment they showed that arc with Young Kakashi, I made the connection that Tobi is Obito
Shout out to nick for covering his mouth when trying these snacks. Manners jutsu is on point
I refuse to let anyone see me chew
Edicate style : munch & shield Jutsu.
@@kennethalexander359 lol I like your name for the jutsu better
Naruto’s upbringing and backstory is borderline a plot hole in itself.
Because based on everything we know about his background, there is no reasonable way anyone would have treated Naruto like that
Exactly also Uzumaki is his surname. So the clan that was got wiped, the last known being the wife of the 4th Hokage... how the fuck would no one piece together "Hey this demon kid has the same last name as the wife of the 4th hokage, who was also the jinchuuriki of the nine tails." Like c'mon anyone with a brain would have known he was the 4th Hokage's son and thus still respected him because of his parents sacrifice and of course it was the 4th who sealed the kurama away so again how.
@@TheLastSane1 few points:
1) judging by how the birth of Naruto was hidden from everyone but those closest to Minato and Kushina aka Hiruzen and Biwako, Fugaku and Mikoto, Kakashi, and possibly the Hirashin Squad, the Marriage between Minato and Kushina may have been hidden as well to which would explain why Kushina still had her surname instead of Minato’s.
2)The people of Konoha were told Minato killed the Nine Tails.
3) Naruto had his parentage hidden by Hiruzen and Danzō to make him less of a target for Kumo and Tsuchi to kidnap for revenge.
4) not everyone knew who everyone was in their village which why only those relatively close to Kushina and/or Minato could have guessed Naruto was their child regardless if they knew of the two of them getting together.
5) And most importantly, Grief and Anger can blind people to the obvious separately but together, it’s worse. Only people like Teuchi, who wasn’t blinded by grief and anger, saw who Naruto was not what he contained and could figure out his parentage.
@@darach2399 His birth was not hidden, and Kakashi KNEW Kushina was Minatos wife, they got publicly married and she had an anbu ninja assigned to her for her protection. Naruto getting her surname and being outted as the Nine-tails was the dumbest thing because everyone should have known Kushina was the host of the ninetails and she died that night and suddenly this other kid called Uzumaki shows up with it (also the clan is dead as fuck by this point so the only way he is one is through Kushina) so they should have known he was Minatos kid.
The real answer is Kushina and all that was created long after the series was first thought up.
@@darach2399 no one thought Minato killed the Ninetails. The entire reasoning behind the hate Naruto got was the fact that he was the Ninetails or had it inside him. Even the opening prologue (which I assume is the in-universe history version of the night, it's the only way to justify the blatent retcon of the event) says Minato sealed it.
It makes sense that people hated him and feared him. They saw what the ninetails did to their village in just a couple of hours if that. Plus the citizens needed someone to take the blame otherwise they would have fallen apart. Everyone hates Dando for this but you can't deny that he understands folk better than most.
I really do appreciate your in depth work and attention to detail. Keep it up man
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Orchimaru always had the perfect host in karen. I never understood why he didn’t steal her bodie and modify just a little bit. Chakra reserves are probably the most important thing in Naruto. As for tsukiuomi there all in it till this day 😂
Karin*
I dont think it was know at the time but she also has the Uzumaki sealing chains
My theory:
Medical Ninjutsu is definitively Yang Release. When Naruto asked about Genjutau and Medical Ninjutsu, Kakashi and Yamato mentioned Yin and Yang. We later found out Yin Release is Genjutsu. This leaves Yang Release to provide us with Medical Ninjutsu. Plus, the Senju tend to be really good at both. This further hints at a correlation between the two.
If you're talking about the Naruto theory, you could say that Hiruzen acted as a netural person in Naruto's life to let him grow by giving him bare minimum necessities, and not reveal much about him, but the whole village hating him and all that is too much.
My favorite Theory / retcon of the show is why they didn't tell Naruto he was the fourth hokages kid. This reason being because Minato was such a badass during the war, but he was Infamous everywhere that wasn't the leaf Village. So people seeking Revenge would go after his kid if they knew he had one. Which isn't all that outlandish because Hinata was kidnapped twice for her Byakugan.
Pretty valid, but then they should've kept Sasuke a secret too to prevent people like Orochimaru and Gaara from going after him
So here's an idea, fan theories that paid off. Like how the Naruto community theorized that the rinnegan statue was the body of the ten tails before that was revealed.
Gedo* statue? Yes, I agree, it was very clever for people to realize that.
Imagine how different thing would have been if Hirozen had assigned a member of the anbu to raise and take care of Naruto. I mean he was the 4th Hokages son, even if it was just until Naruto graduated from the academy
He could have been a child of the entire village. THAT would have made him Hokage material. Each day a different Jonin of Chuunin shows up to keep an eye on him and teach him stuff. Maybe some treat him better than others, but never a "golden child" or "prince". Just tell him that since he doesn't have parents, someone is assigned to keep an eye on him. Do the same with Sasuke. Maybe they get better/higher level guardains, but you could do this with ALL orphans. And then each of them would grow up seeing the whole village as their family and more willing to defend and support it.
hiruzen had his anbu keep tabs on naruto they just didnt interact with him up close they were ordered only to observe an if the worst came about the anbu would capture kurama and seal him they were certainly capable of doing so since a member of their rank "Tenzo" had hashirama's dna not to mention the anbu commander's themselves squared off against pain's giant summons an mopped the floor with them effortlessly.
the anbu surveillance was the compromise that hiruzen had to make in order to appease his councilors and danzo.
The first theory is basically people wishing Boruto was a dream and I can't blame them
I shamelessly admit I'm one of them... (it's like watching GT as a dragonball fan, many good ideas, but too much disregard for the original plot)
One of these days Naruto is going to wake up and we'll get more shippuden. Memes aside, from what I hear, Boruto is starting to really pick up if you're ok with them fighting literal aliens and cyborgs than actual ninja.
@@Vorusen I got no problems with the concepts it's just the outsutsuki threats are basically kaguya but if she knew how to fight
The cyborgs are garbage like dbz knew how to make them cool plus their abilities literally just turn this into boruto, Kawaki hope trip like no one else can touch them their going to have to pull some BS to do something(like madara) otherwise what can they do Kawaki will leave but then what
@@hoifzf very true, DBZ did the androids so well that they are still some of peoples favorite characters years later. When andriod 17 popped up for super I WAS FUCKING HYYYYYYPED. I will give it to Boruto though, the ninja tech is a really good idea and that should have been as "futuristic" as it should have gotten. Makes sense that they would want to create a device that allows less skilled ninja to mold chakra better or even outright do jutsu for them like how scrolls work.
Literally it would also be cool to see the villain win like Madera did but the author couldn't just let Naruto lose it wasn't called Madera
Neji might have seen that splinter coming if he ate magic spoon for breakfast that fateful day
Or at the very least his body would have been strong enough to tank it
Boruto is more likely to become an antagonist than Sarada is. Especially considering that he is like 80% Otsusuki.
So here's my theory:
First episode of Boruto we saw him and Kawaki talking.
What people figure is that Kawaki is the antagonist. But I am actually thinking that it is the inverse.
Kawaki is on the same side as Naruto and Sarada whereas Boruto's views are distorted. Eventhough he says he is the last Ninja in that flash forward, he actually says that he is the last Otsusuki.
Momoshiki is mostly under control but gives Boruto a distorted view of what is happening in order to ensure that Boruto doesn't suppress him again.
This is would make boruto so much more compelling fr
@@Criticmasterz Glad you like my theory.
@@GameDevMadeEasyit's less shonen and less generic so it'll be entertaining to get into.
Find d "what actually happened in Boruto" video
Your theory is way too good for Boruto's canon story.
I mean, i would assume that orochimaru just shoves himself into a clone body. That way he can get any kekkei genkai he wants and it's more ethical than actual people if he hops in before they have a personality
or just pull a kabuto and integrate their dna into his zetsu body.
At 6:30 you said Sasuke got a Rinnesharingan. However, it's just a special Rinnegan. The reason it has the Rinnesharingan pattern is because when you obtain a set of Rinnegan through the usual method, it overwrites your Mangekyou Sharingan, and becomes a normal Rinnegan. However, Sasuke's was given to him by Hagoromo, and so it kept his MS abilities, and they manifest in the form of the choko-tomoe in his Rinnegan. His right eye summons Amaterasu, and his Rinnnegan can still shape the flames and extinguish them. Another thing, the Rinnesharingan is always red, and has three sets of tomoe instead of just two.
Thank you, I've been trying to tell people that
Actually your wrong, his rinnegan is like that because he only has one, the only other 2 people to get rinnegan have had 2 (Madara and Hagoromo) which have 2 different abilites, but sasuke only has one which would require it to be as powerful as 2 so he got his ms abilites and his rinnegan ability.
Ok, there's a lot you're wrong on in this one paragraph. First of all, *you're. Second, your argument is incorrect. Sasuke has tomoe in his Rinnegan because it was given to him by the Sage of Six Paths, Hagoromo Otsutsuki. Instead of overwriting his EMS abilities like awakening a double Rinnegan would, Sasuke kept his EMS abilities, and so Kishimoto purposefully gave Sasuke tomoe to show the fact that he didn't lose them. This is only further proven by the fact that Madara lost his EMS, and they were instead turned into a Rinnegan with no tomoe. You can literally see his eyes transform when he's about to be hit by Naruto's Rasenshuriken.
@@lordepsilon617 yeah it's a six paths Rinnegan while Madara has the regular Rinnegan
@@lordepsilon617 It wasnt lmao. It has been proven in the databooks that "Whoever posses a mangekyou or eternal mangekyou sharingan and awakens only one rinnegan gets the "Six-Tomoe Rinnegan" (Rinnegan abilites + ms abilites).
Awakening the sharingan doesn't have to be out of hate. The special Chakra begins to flow into their optic nerve when they have an extremely intense emotional moment. Sasuke was seeing his dead parents and brother. Madara was because he broke his friendship with Hashirama, Obito awakened his from his strong will to keep his friends safe. No hatred needs to be involved to unlock either Sharingan or Mangekyo haringan
"naruto never wanted anyone to die" Deidara: am I a joke to you?
Yes he is...
He was trying to kill kakuzu if I remember correctly
Sarada betraying the village doesn't make any sense if you think about that in OG team 7, there was 1 bad guy, 1 good guy and 1 person that loves the bad guy, well since Boruto is already kinda the bad guy and Mitsuke loves Boruto then who do you have left? i wonder how you can defend this argument..
Boruto going rouge makes more sense than Sarada doing it.
I love how you got proved wrong fast by kishimoto sarada did betray the village to help Boruto I know you made this before chapter 80 so you should go read it
I think the creature possessing ochimaru keeps the identity ochimaru because it's convenient and they don't actually know who he is
Jokes aside, we all know that we are still in Kurenai's genjutsu
For that first theory, if we only look the end of shippuden, it can kinda make sense. Aliens come about and tell you that they were the ones causing all the bad things. It shifts blame away from people for being terrible and moves it to something outside. Not saying this is a good theory or anything, just saying there is still some logic in it when looked at in a vacuum
It was perfectly plausible until certain parts of Boruto came out. The only thing that really hurts it’s plausibility is Kurama sacrificing himself to enable barrion mode
@@MFShro0m But that also depends on how much you’re willing to stretch Naruto’s need for hardship and conflict.
Remember, Naruto said “I don’t want the easy path, I would to navigate the hard path”, this would involve loss, hardship, and overcoming those losses and hardships.
So the theory still makes sense within its premise, yes they had losses but they still won…for now.
@@charleschiemekaekeogu6908 I forgot he said that. Yeah earlier I was wondering how exactly the infinite tsukuyomi worked as in, is the dream world your version of an absolutely perfect world where nothing goes wrong or is it the reality that you would find the most enjoyable and rewarding even if that meant that ‘bad’ things and bad things would happen in it?
If it’s the latter then naruto missing his inauguration due to himawari hitting a vital chakra points could plausibly happen in Naruto’s dream world as altho things go tits up at his expense, what happens is funny to most viewers and if Naruto was watching his dream unfold he’d probably find it funny too.
Then going back to the him being fine with experiencing loss and hardships (with him possibly considering them necessary for his own self-fulfilment), while he’s lost Kurama for now tailed beasts can’t be permanently killed and will reappear at some point if they ‘die’. When that happens naruto will be reunited with him, an old friend, like how he was eventually reunited with sasuke at the end of shippuden.
Naruto and sasuke each losing an arm fits in with the whole hardships thing too and it’d be interesting if in his dream he sub-consciously nerfed himself and sasuke to undo some of the broken power scaling we saw towards the end of shippuden which would help in a whole bunch of different ways
@@MFShro0m Exactly, also it would explain why Naruto dreamt of world conquering Aliens because at the end of Shippuden, he was literally THE STRONGEST man alive along with Sasuke who he had already made peace with.
There’s no ONE left on the planet to give Naruto a challenge which would explain why Naruto would need extraterrestrials to generate conflict because no one apart from Sasuke can even stand up to him.
@@charleschiemekaekeogu6908 not just alive, one of the strongest who has ever lived!
The susano could only counter it because of the rinnegan if it wasn’t for that they’d have been toast
And the six paths chakra
The theorists: But that's what they WANT YOU to think lol
and because he had a rennigan and 6paths chakra that made his susano stronger
@@ShinobiPirate *forgets the whole show* “yes that theory is true”
@@diggerman23 I am not a believer in the theory and never said so. I said at the beginning The theorists:
That's not Naruto's IS dream, it's Goku's. A big showdown with your rival who at the end of it finally comes around to your line of thinking followed by a constant stream of increasingly powerful foes to fight and a son who is just as keen to fight as you, differing motivations aside.
Fun new theory: Madara's constant fights with Hashirama is clearly a representation of his sexual frustration and suppressed fantasies. Madara likes to be "put in his place", and since Hashirama is the only man who can successfully do that, he keeps challenging him just to get excited from loosing. Madara is very clearly into that. Why else would you keep challenging the man, when you CLEARLY know you can't win? He even admitted that multiple times! Because deep inside he doesn't want to win - he wants Hashirama to screw him over. And then he got even more frustrated because Hashirama married and stopped playing "beat me up if you can" roleplay with him.
Have fun with that, gang.
This made me deeply uncomfortable... good job
Do you know how Boruto punched Naruto in the stomach because he was sending shadow clones to take care of his family life? Could it be so that fishcake was inspired by how lord third Sarutobi Hiruzen’s behavior was?
The citizens of Konoha were mean by Danzo’s guiding allusion. Garra showed Uzumaki how he could become instead but team 7 and a fleeting crush gave him hope for not being self-imposing isolated.
That was the all I really wanted to comment on.
Yes Gaara still had his dad... who used him as a weapon, and sent assassins after him multiple times to KILL HIS OWN SON!. He even sent the ONE PERSON who Gaara believed to love him; his uncle; to kill Gaara.... How is that not worse than what Naruto saw subjected to.
THANK YOU NICK! I have been telling people that infinite tsukuyomi is just tsukuyomi but infinite/forever runs on the moons life force and not the user but no people are idiots and think it’s completely different from itachis
I still think it’d be super ballsy if Baruto just ended with Naruto waking up in his bed as a child maybe with his parents
I like that the same people that hate hiruzen because he can’t take care of naruto defend naruto for not taking care of boruto, and Jiraiya the god father is like no where to be found
🤣 the way Jiraiya's hair perfectly lines up with the door handle makes it look like he's holding a sword with his hair. I was so confused for a second! 🤣
I always assumed that Orochimaru was pardoned due to his role in helping to save the world.
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Theory Black zetsu made the other villages attack the uzamaki so that kagua could come back safer
I’m assuming because it would decrease the amount of ashura descendants
Uzumaki are no threat to kaguya
@@eessaumer3225 I don’t think it’s kaguya herself more like madara’s plans
@@KombatW0mbat wtf
Oh god I'm just now realizing that the time manipulation part of the Infinite Tsukuyomi quite possibly implies that everyone under it lived who knows how many lives in their head during the brief time team 7 was fighting Madara and Kaguya. Thank god Kishimoto ignored that.
Also I'd like to note that Hiruzen may not be a bad guy but by golly is he shit at keeping promises about taking care of kids. After just rewatching I noticed he also promised Itachi he would keep Sasuke safe growing up. He did a shit job with both the protagonists and with one of them they actually did go full monster with it.
I mean when you got to see everyone else's tsukuyomi dream, not everything was perfect all the time. In Tsunade's dream, she was reading Jiraya's writings and Sasuke and Naruto had a final fight in that too. Anything could really happen
Hello there Sir, Madara and Hashirama are the only two people to control Kurama. Minato didn't control him at all. He died trying.
More on the infinite tsukuyomi was actually a success: Lets not forget that Naruto not only dreamed of the main villain dying, but then randomly created a new main villain to take over immediately, and look at what this new main villain does. She killed a recently redeemed Obito. Naruto's talk no jutsu was once again successful and caused Obito to come back to the light...and he dreamed of his new "friend"/comrade, who shared the same dream as him, dying to save his life. Just dream Obito had enough time and chakra left to kamui away BOTH bone spears! Is Naruto so psychotically used to tragedy in his life that he cant fathom even dreaming of a situation where everything just...works out? He's literally seen 3 different instances with Chiyo, Nagato, and Obito using jutsu to bring people back from the dead, and he couldn't dream that his new super awesome 6th path powers that can save the life of a person who opened up the 8th gate and create entirely new body parts when giving Kakashi his eye back couldn't just bring back some dead people? At least Neji?
Naruto's been dreaming big since literally the start of the series. His dreams and determination to see that dream through is the driving point of his character. Naruto can dream bigger than "I guess tons of people still died and I can't do a damn thing about it". If anything its an insult to his character to say that his dream wouldn't have EVERYONE alive. Dude would probably find a way to bring Jiraiya and his parents back and restore the Uchiha for Sasuke if this was truly all just his dream.
That theory is absolutely dumb and heinous.
Fr! he also wouldn't want karama to die so it wouldn't make sense! 😭
20:51-21:00 Don't forget Shisui died with no eyes while Itachi died with both eyes, anything done with Itachi's eyes afterwards was irrelevant in the case of edo Itachi. For reference edo Nagato was still frail, grey haired, and had limited mobility before absorbing Killer B's chakra, so edo Shisui would likely not have eyes at all. I do admit however that maybe Kabuto could have done something special with Shisui's reanimation similar to what he did with edo Madara, but I'll let other people give their thoughts on if he would and how that would have played out.
I just love the fact that gyuki's chakra can apparently restore someone's physicals. Hiruzen could've used some of that.
Just some theories/questions of mine. We know you don't have to own the mangekyo sharingan to activate it's susanoo from kakashi and sasuke said you need 2 mangekyo sharingan to awaken a susanoo so do both of the mangekyo have to be yours? Meaning could I take Obito's mangekyo sharingan and Itachi's mangekyo and get a susanoo? Also another theory I truly believe to be facts. Mangkeyo sharingan abilities are awakened based off of the person's desires/personality kinda. For example Obito hated the world he lived in so he got the ability to go to kamui... another world obviously. Sasuke wanted to burn konoha so he got amaterasu and flame control. Shisui hated war and wanted people to know what he thinks about it (don't know how to explain it that well but yknow what I mean). Itachi pondered about genjutsu and reality so he got tsukuyomi and kishimoto takes mangekyo sharingan ability names and stuff from japan mythology and in japan mythology tsukuyomi and amaterasu the sun god are married so itachi got amaterasu along with tsukuyomi. List goes on.
@Ghost Phoenix Ah ok thank you I wasn't sure about that one
My theory is that the Orochimaru we see in the fourth great ninja war isn’t actually the one we met originally. Instead it’s an immortal Clone based on his students memories of him. Mostly good. With just a drop of poison. One could argue he was slowly descended down that bad path while training her.
That’s a theory he came up with
Am I the only one who wants to know about other indra and ashura reincarnations apart from sasuke, naruto, hashirama and madara
The Boruto Infinite Tsukiyomi Dream always angered so much. Incoming rant!🚨📟⚠️
Naruto wanted his best friend to die, his son to be a product of Human trafficking, his other best friend to lose his eye, his other son to be imprinted on by a sus alien, Jiraiya, Neji, and all the other good people, like Itachi are dead!? Even though every other character's dream there people were all still alive, the love of his life crying, to be an absentee father, and so,so,so much worse things to happen!? Yes, such a beautiful dream
I remmeber telling all the anime-tubers that the infinite tsukiyomi was just a tool to create more filler in the anime. Im glad i was the one to realize that, makes me feel smart
Tbh Madara won the 4th Great Shinobi War is the best theory ever.
i was just scrolling in your channel hoping that there is a video i haven't watched yet then this notification popped up. you're a real life saver nick
@@makubegysman6160 it will be: let me introduce you to tenten's feats... thanks for watching
15:57 actually to be fair, Hiruzen did give Naruto a house, not an apartment. And Naruto never really gets mad at Hiruzen for how he treated him, yet does with the rest of the village.
Also the main reason Orochimaru even wanted the Sharingan overall was to defeat Itachi and Madara and prevent himself from being put in genjutsus to which he thought was his main weakness(basically was). But now both of them are dead and hes basically friends with Sasuke at this point or atleast he respects Sasuke and so he doesn't care about it anymore or wouldn't need it.
I will be reviewing this video. The only requirement is that at some point one of these makes me say "what?" out-loud.
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“Still got a cute daughter though!” 😂😂
Himawari singlehandedly justifying Boruto's dad's son's entire existence.
Madara just makin naruto have a bad dream but not too bad so he don't get sus 😂
Sarada...an antagonist...? Nah if anything it's that Boruto kid we've gotta watch...mans is like, 80% Otsutsuki... He's got alien god eyes, and he's got, while not as extreme, that chip on his shoulder like old Sasuke with a bit of his dad thrown in.
That being said, anyone notice that Boruto originally was like, Sasuke Uchiha 2.0, but looks like Naruto? Because I did, and it made me laugh.
That makes me think though...if Naruto was about breaking the Cycle of Hatred... Is Boruto going to be about the eventual unification of humanity against interstellar threats?
We went from cruel facts of life to Halo real fast.
You were cooking btw
Actually the Infinite Tsukiyomi was Hinata's and not Naruto's.
Which explains why Sasuke is barely even in the Leaf village, because she's jealous of their bond.
Also explains why in The Last literally OUT OF NOWHERE Hinata becomes the other half of Naruto.
Even stealing his characteristic purple aura.
Kurama also dies for a similar reason, in a "Just Monica" scenario.
Also that is because she wanted her family the Hyuga clan to be more relevant. So she basically said "yeah and we're the sons of aliens, suck it Uchihas!"
everybody seems to love the "it's all some character's dream in a coma" theories, but I would be willing to bet anything that if they made those canon, those same people would be very angry.
I think the theory Naruto being in a genjutsu makes sense BECAUSE whatever happens next doesn't make sense. In other words, the Otsusukis, the moon, karma and all of that doesn't make sense in a dream, so it makes sense "IN REALITY"???
I agree. It's kinda like the "Indoctrination Theory" in Mass Effect. Most people that follow it(myself included) do so as a way to explain the parts of the story that don't make sense, or are just crazy. I understand that it's not canon, but the theory makes more sense to me than the actual story.
Hey man, I always wondered, if sasuke and Karin had a child, just how op would that child be ?
I’m pretty sure he mentioned that in one of his videos, it was one about which relationships actually made sense in the naruto story, can’t remember the tittle though
@@oblivion2061 Yeah. It's the one where he says that Sarada should be stronger than a hypothetical Karin/ Sasuke child, [which I strongly disagree with].
Sharingan, Uzumaki chakra reserves, healing abilities, sensing ability, fire jutsu etc.
@@quentinjones6877 Plus, all of Sakura's abilities that he mentioned there (super strength, super speed etc) are learned abilities via Tsunade's chakra control techniques not specific to Sakura's bloodline. If Sakura becomes Karin/ Sasuke's godmother of sorts like Karin is for Sarada, Sakura could just teach this hypothetical child these techniques. Which would be absolutely broken.
@@guchanyle3492 but would their child have good chakra control to begin with?
Honestly, the first theory to me is because of how Madara ended. Madara was dogging Naruto and friends for years of our lives. You could sum up seasons on this show by just saying Madara is like that. Then out of nowhere’s Kaguya drops in and fucks him immediately. And then she loses what felt like immediately to these sorry ass main characters. Naruto never actually beat this guy.
Hey. What is the song in the background called?
Not a theory, just a video idea. What if Madara beat Hashirama?
What if naruto had combined the ability of 4 tails lava mode and 5 tails boil release on to his chakra cloak? Volcano mode 😆
Mitsuki being evil would make more sense.
I think Shishui can use the Kotoamatsukami daily.
The 10 year restriction was for Danzo because they had to nerf that ability somehow.
Yea I really don't get how it isn't clear that Shisui can use it more than just ten years, there's a reason he was known for using it and even was gonna cast it on the Uchiha
You kinda glossed over it, but the clip you played summed it up nicely, Ao specifies that Danzo's EYE has Shisui's chakra, not the whole arm, he just notes that there's something off with the chakra in his arm, and he was seeing Hashirama cells.
For the record I actually don't think the Shisui being alive theory is THAT bad, as you said, the corpse was never found, same with Jiraiya's, yet it WAS found at some point by Amado and used to clone Jiraiya into Koji. I could see Shisui's body at least being used as a similar plot device in the future, although the odds are low and it's most likely that Shisui will just stay gone.
sarada didnt awaken her sharingan through love it was also sadness, thats the whole reason she has glasses, they gave them to her at such a young age because thats when she unlocked them and said to sakura that somthing was wrong with her eyes so they used it as a cover up
no she unlocks from seeing sasuke and she has glasses because kishiminto like the design and also she got sick as a kid and sasuke has bad eyesight anyways
so one of the reasons i used to think shisui was still alive was because at one point in the manga itachi says he "faked his death and disappeared" however that might have just been a mistranslation fron the scan i read or maybe kishimoto was thinking about bringing him back for a second. every other time its mentioned though it just says he killed himself so even if it was not a mistranslation i think its pretty clear kishimoto decided to keep him dead.
also i think shisui was meant to be a red haring to hide obitos identity so thats also why theirs alot of vaugness around his death. think about it shisui has a vauge off screen death, he has a similar appearance to obito, we did not know barely anything about him, and his nickname was shisui the teleporter suggesting he had a similar ability to obito. all these things make him the perfect red herring. i think that alot of shisuis design and story was done the way it was so he could mislead us into thinking he was the one behind the mask and because of that his death was intentionally made vauge so we would doubt it. though i think this was dropped around the five kage summit ark as kishimoto now wanted us to think obito was madara which is why we got introduced to alot of information about shisui and his abilities during that time. so overall i dont think its a dumb theory because theirs enough in universe evidence to suggest he could have survived. its only when you go out of universe and ask yourself if the writer would want him to survive that the cracks start to form. oh and im talking about it prior to its official debunking in the novel. if you still belive the theory now its dumb but that does not mean it was a dumb theory back in the day.
Here's a theory:
Madara and the Uchiha promoted keeping relations within the clan because that would mean his descendants could take any other clan member's eyes and get EMS...
Ya know, because incest is wincest and this would make everyone closely related after a few generations.
I always assumed it would make more sense given how much Sharingan genjutsu can manipulate people that no one really wanted to marry them because it is basiclly near perfect gaslighting lol
This theory belongs in this video
@@carrot6525 No, the fact that clans have their own distinct features means they are extremely inbred. Red hair is a super rare hair color, yet pretty much all Uzumakis had it, indicating basically no genetic diversity. Real life clans and dynasties function the same way, they keep it in the family and all of it is on purpose.
the writer : the village hated naruto and the 3th hokage only gives naruto money monthly.
the stupid theory : the village hated naruto to make him hokage material
the writer : the village fucking hates naruto until naruto saves the village.
I think that Naruto lost in six path Sage mode was because he could only do baryon mode because he had that six paths chakra if he didn’t he would’ve probably ended up dying from chakara exhaustion Which is why no other Jinchuricy have shown it off up this point Just a fun little theory
I completely believe Nick during the ad reads simply for the fact I think he himself is genuine but every time he taste tests something his physically reaction is like he broke a tooth XD
My theory is that this video should make the viewer like, subscribe, and hit that notey bell.
To me, the first theory is more like a Creepypasta rather than a theory
Shouldn’t orochimaru also be able to absorb and copy someone’s chakra because of the zetsu body
I'm slowly becoming addicted to this channel
Me too
only reason why madara lost was because of plot armor and also the writers literally DID NOT KNOW how to defeat him because of how op the dude was.
I have been saying that stuff about the first theory for so long,but no one listens. To add to it,we literally got a spin off story by Kishimoto and a movie that revolves around what Naruto's Infinite Tsukuyomi would be. If Naruto fell under the Genjutsu,his dream would be having his parents around. That is not in the end of Shippuden,The Last,or Boruto.
"Hiruzen raised Naruto shitty on purpose" sounds like such an awful take. If Iruka hadn't stepped up,Naruto would have ended up like Gaara. Naruto even says that himself. Hiruzen raising Naruto badly on purpose,that just get the village destroyed.
Sarada didn't actually active her Sharingan from wanting to see her father. In the Anime's rewrite of the Gaiden,which I am not a fan of,it says Sarada unlocked her Sharingan at quite a young age due to the pain of not having a father and it started reactivating again,her extra blurry eyesight,before the Gaiden arc because of the thoughts of her father,kinda like how Sasuke actually activated his Sharingan for the first time after the massacre and just didn't realize it. So hers isn't from hatred,but it's not from anything positive either.
I Might have to correct on 15:06 cuz if you seen the first fight between Naruto and Shin clone with Sarada and cho cho Included the little shin have Ms so basically every Shin clone have their own Ms that why Shin Uchiha if damaged Uses other clone so i thought you might have been wrong here about not having Ms in Shin clone but you did not mention it
They would have reanimated shizui in the war if his corpse was found
The one where madara actually won kinda counters everything you said because it’s confirmed madara can edit traits about the infinite tsukuomi so he could change it to where it isn’t perfect and seems like real life so no one realizes there in a dream.
Zetsu could also do the asspull of betraying him and manipulating the genjutsu himself to turn it into a nightmare, and I think that's what happened, that's why we have burrito
@@MrSasukeSusanooBut 🌯 is a reality not ilusion BS 😂
That makes no fucking sense, he also would have to be editing every single person .
And he got killed so rip bozo
@@_------------_ nah you're under zetsu's tsukuyomi fr 🌯
@@MrSasukeSusanoo And you are under Eida omnipotence ☠️
A theory I had was Obito was planning to use Kisame as his next Jinchurki after Yagra and basically engineered him into what would've been a personal engine of destruction between Kisame already being a freak of nature in terms of his physical abilities, skill with water jutsu and naturally massive chakra pools, and Samehada. Like his kit would be perfect for the Three Tails and it makes his nickname of the tailless tailed beast a but more interesting.
So y’all think that Naruto could kill a god and get the k seal like boruto and kawaki
Yea he could he killed momoshiki
At this point i really hope everything happened in the the infinite tsuko Like what's the worst that could happen? No time travel no boruto no useless kids no lee not knowing who his wife is. no kaguya no God level no nerf sasuke. it all sounds good to me.
Nearly all fan theories are by definition irrational. If the writers wanted you to know something they make it known or they leave you guessing purposefully and likely didn’t actually form a conclusion for whatever they were trying to lead you to.
“making this video is making me upset”😂
Hey Nick, tbh I was "meh" about this video but you cannot make bad content. I watched this video through and through, well done ! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
thanks so much!
@6 paths the while "dumbest theories" aspect. I'm not really adamant about watching theory videos, but Nick always hits 👌🏼👌🏼
@6 paths I'd say nagato tbhhh , his rennegone isn't to play with, and his Chakra supply, MAN! But, Kalashi is a super strategist and his DMS is the strongest in the war arch (thx obito), so it's hard for me to say
@6 paths fair 🙏🏻 DMS Kakashi is broken ( rip obito )
@6 paths your mum
"Sorry I mixed up President and School Shooter" has got to be one of the absolutely funniest things Ive heard on this website in 11 years that made me cry thank u Hammer homie.
The Infinite Tsukuyomi worked theory makes a lot more sense if you change 1 minor detail. It's not Naruto's dream we see, it's Sasuke's. He gets to be welcomed back to the place that should have been his home, and the guy that annoyed the piss out of him for years is a bad parent.
That still makes no senae🎉
@@finna1002 not if you're illiterate, yeah.
@@finna1002 didn't ask
Actually is a good point ngl
"Why would Naruto dream up an alien race?" I don't know, why did Kishimoto?
So... Edo Tensei brings you back how you were when you died. This is why the third is old. So the Itachi having eyes after being brought back does not disprove Shisui in and of itself. Given that Itachi's eyes were taken after death and Shisui was very much alive with no eyes and it was not the lack of eyes that killed him.
Now I am unsure if this was intended to be implied. but Tsukuyomi can stretch time a long longer than 72 hours...see Izumi Uchiha
The first theory is so stupid though. It is clearly all of Naruto is basicly just Kakashi in Tsukuyomi from the start of the series. All the pain and sorrow is just because Kakashi is so damn smart Itachi knew he had to ad it to his comrad to get him to believe it. But the whole story, Kakshi training with two people he would get be able to understand plus Sakura. They show the understand and value of comrads like he had tested other for. then Itachi, Kakshi gets to see his father during Pain arch. Gets to see his old squad mate in Obito and find closure for what happened with Rin. Gets to see his old sensai again. Becomes Hokage gets to see someone like his old squad mate become hokage.... and yet some how ¨Maradra wins¨ is what people go for. Look they are both really stupid. but a lot of it just sounds like people who hate Boruto trying to write it off as not real.
I think it brings you at your Prime. Because Madara came back and had his Rinnegan and Nagato got his Rinnegan, Itachi got his eyes.
Laws of edo tensei are pretty inconsistent, minato comes back but doesnt have a massive hole in his chest, but when nagato comes back to life, he cant use his legs.
@@gentletal5101 Madara didn't come back with rinnegans. Nagato died with his. And itachi died with his eyes still in his head. Plus the third hokage came back old. So no on several points
@@blaithindonovan so if he brought back Danzo I pretty sure the war would have been over
@@blaithindonovan technically he did he just forgot to turn them on
I just realized if inf.ts stretches out time than wouldn’t that mean that whole world loved out several life times before they were woken up?
For the last one
Sardara always followed Narutos steps and that adds to both our theorys
Boruto is evil
It just makes sense idk why people think kawaki is couse I agree boruto kinda sucks but not so much with such a obvious storyline c'mon it's not that bad atleast when it advances and also it makes more sense when u realise boruto even knows that sasuke was evil but sardara doesnt
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@@neonicon8500 if u dont even know the basic it's a otsusuki who put his life on boruto where he will rebirth and so maybe borutos body gets taken over
well naruto wouldn't have invented otsutsukis because when madara activates infinite tsukuyomi him and sasuke have already met hahoromo and learned about kaguya