Sample used for contemporary writing style brings to mind something seen a couple months ago, "Writing is all fun and games until you have to describe a room."
I've also noticed that one of the biggest differences between contemporary and lyrical style is that contemporary focuses on more concrete elements, whereas the lyrical style uses more abstract ideas and thoughts.
I'm Voice-Driven Style. my strength lies in creating distinct and memorable characters. Because my writing is often driven by strong voices and deep character development. I excel at capturing the essence of my characters, making them come alive for my readers, and creating a profound connection between them and my own narratives.
I love your videos! I've been watching them for a couple years now. You're so insightful and relaxing. You make it feel like we're having a discussion about a shared passion, and I love that. According to this, I fall somewhere in between lyrical and comical. I didn't have words for it before this, so thank you!
Ive got an ugly but effective process. I work all week for the weekend. And when im feeling particularly distressed I start journalling. And then I dont stop until I have exhausted myself of my own misery. This weekend, I've drafted a quarter of a Gothic Fiction and two short stories. A few poems. And several drafts of a love letter. Im focusing in on the gothic novel now. I want to finish it. I dont write often but when I do I write a lot. Journalling is good for the soul. I guess you could call my style experimental "stream of consciousness."
I write like a combination of William Gibson, Ryu Murakami and Thomas Pynchon. I haven't written in a while because I wasn't sober, now that I am I'm getting back into it, typing this at 7AM after not sleeping all night. Couldn't feel better about it.
Thank you for this. As I start my creative writing journey, I worry my writing is not lyrical. I now realise it doesn’t have to be. My preferred styles are contemporary and conversational with a hint of comical.
I don't understand why contemporary writing style is considered the "gold standard". I write in this style and I find the style itself quite boring, and focus more on the story itself rather than the prose. I prefer reading the conversational style because it just feels more fun and full of life
From the examples, I cannot tell the differences between styles 1, 2, and 3, which all seem focused on more formal language, and also cannot tell the differences between styles 4, 5, and 6, which all seem conversational and in the narrator's head. Can you explain in more detail the distinctions that separate out each style? Maybe a video on each particular style and its eccentricities?
For the first style in particular, I think it would have been better to go back to its origins, and quote a passage from someone like Jane Austen or Rudyard Kipling. I write in a period style -- not fantastically well, but the example that was used struck me as a poor imitation.
I like this video and the way you explain the writing styles. I would like also to be a translator and editor one day, but I see this is not an easy work haha!!
Mine is somewhere between voice-driven and conversational. Most of my writing tends to be very casually voiced first person narration, almost as if the main character is telling someone the story, but I usually stop just short of that actually being the case. I’ll try to avoid invoking the reader as a “character”, I generally won’t have the narrator say things like “you”, break the fourth wall or otherwise address the reader in any direct way, but the narration is still borderline conversational
Most of my writing style is experimental and i love using ellipsis's when given the opportunity. I think for every writing style is arbitrary to the author and their target 🎯 audience.
I'm surprised Carver has so much description. Maybe there's another more terse style like Elmore Leonard or John Scalzi, where they "leave out stuff readers tend to skip".
I've been told that my style is 'unique'. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I know that some people love it, but worry that others would express opinions of a less than complementary nature were they to be asked directly. I have an obsession with rhythm and flow, you see, and a penchant for using both understatement and overstatement. I focus on what 'feels right' and 'sounds right', but also on precision of meaning. The result often being a string of adverbs or adjectives - almost always three. Now that's a faux pas indeed! I find that it makes comedy come easily, but still worry that it will be condemned by modern critics who focus on brevity and simplicity. Obviously, I'm also prone to wordiness. So, my question is: Do you believe that readers and critics would recognize and appreciate what I'm doing, and, as a consequence, allow me to get away with what most would consider to be an amateurish, waffling mess, best suited fore house-training a puppy? In essence, are these habits something I need to send to their grave?
Im trying to make mine contemporary but we'll see what the beta readers say once I finish editing. My gut is telling me that mine is a combo of experimental and lyrical. I do love inverted alliteration
I have created a novel that uses present day writing style but then the narrative jumps to past events with language, typical of 1850. You may have said it is not done, can I have misunderstood you?
I was hoping you could tell me. But you neglected one thing. Anything told in 1st p POV need not be the voice driven style. The narrator in my story is from her perspective, but not her direct thoughts, more her impressions, things one does not put in words. For example, an excerpt from an Indian restaurant (lacking the italics): ‘The butter chicken is being very popular, ma’am.’ [italics] Of course! Mama’s golden roasted chicken, silky, crispy skin, toasty new potatoes, creamy avocado. Oh, yeah! Who’d’ve thought; an illegal able to afford real food? [end italics] ‘Sounds great. Could you fix it like you do for family?’ Her right hand found itself at her neck, but all she could caress was a button. She took a deep breath, allowing the sizzling aroma of the bird to fill her head.
I like the conversational style. Can you or anyone give suggestions of good writers who write that way? I went on google and asked that question, but it suggested "how to" rather than suggesting any authors. I'm already going to pick up some Jesse Ball books at my library. Does he always write that way? I'm interested because I feel I can write that way, naturally, but I've never heard the term, and to be honest, I get caught up with suggestions on how to write this way and that, and my own style flounders in the background, forgotten. That's why I don't want to read and watch "how to" videos or articles because that's what gets me away from my own voice, which very well may be the conversational style... which I like.
David Sedaris is a good one. He does the conversational and comic style beautifully. Check out Me Talk Pretty One Day and When You Are Engulfed in Flames
Thanks for these. I rode my bike to the library and got two by Ball. I looked at Sedaris, ‘Theft by Finding Diaries,’ but it was too big and I forgot to bring a bag to carry them home on my bike. But I read the first few paragraphs of all of them and found I liked them all right away... which is how I like it. I’ve read Hank Green’s book already and loved it. I didn’t see the Thomas King suggestion until I got home, but I’ll definitely be checking him out too. It’s got a high rating on Goodreads (4.3).
im not sure which writing style I have. but for my first novel, the way I write depends on my mc's personality. I'm writing a fantasy world yet my mc is someone who's super sarcastic and depressed and is so done with everything 24/7.
I do not like complicated texts like the third example. It is pointless and a bit boring. I think it is a good example of Purple prose. Apparently a monarchs history has more than one thread and each thread is also a story of devision. Still, noone knows what devision...
Unfortunately I am having a difficult moment trying to follow this video which seems to be a very good and informative. Your voice is not clear and very hard to follow the various illustrations. It's pitchy and cracking. Is it this video only ? i'll follow your next videos for more
*Okay, I love the explanation…. I just have no idea how to place my own writing. Can someone help me, please? I have an excerpt.* “If I thought anyone else in my Council fitting that description could defeat both Vivian Roland and your brother in battle, we would not be having this conversation. But as it is now, you are the one I suspect. So, Amara, where is your brother?” I stare at my uncle, long enough to be considered confused. “I wish I knew.” I say, at last. “And I wish I knew who the spy in your Council is, but I don’t.” I can set up another member of the Council, maybe. They’re not as innocent as they pretend to be. Set up some bread crumbs to inform my uncle of and follow. That would be timed poorly, though. My uncle would think it suspicious, and it would be. Suddenly, there’s a trail when suspicion is placed on the spymaster? No, if I were going to set someone up, it ought to have been done already. So, I’m left to convince him of my innocence. *Thank you if you even read this far!*
@@dua-e-zehra647 Thank you! I eventually opted to ask an irl buddy. I showed them three different ones. I was told all three were voice-driven, two were contemporary, one was lyrical and one was a little bit lyrical at some points, all three were slightly conversational, and the one that wasn’t contemporary had a touch of period influence.
Seriously mam, you need o take some voice lessons. Your voice seems to be a feast of endless crackling and painfully throat gasping . Your content is brilliant. So sad it cannot be expressed in a pleasant speech form.
Good content but your cracky voice doesn't really help listening and I mention this because it seems that your natural voice is not cracky so you can actually control that by relaxing and breathing well while talking
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Sample used for contemporary writing style brings to mind something seen a couple months ago, "Writing is all fun and games until you have to describe a room."
I've also noticed that one of the biggest differences between contemporary and lyrical style is that contemporary focuses on more concrete elements, whereas the lyrical style uses more abstract ideas and thoughts.
While I am here for the info on writing styles, how is your skin so radiant, moisturised, and smooth?
Girl, we need the skin care routine😌
ّI also need her lipstick brand and shade it's so beautiful
I hope Shaelin's doing okay! You sound under the weather, get some tea and take a nap!
Exactly what I thought
I'm Voice-Driven Style. my strength lies in creating distinct and memorable characters. Because my writing is often driven by strong voices and deep character development. I excel at capturing the essence of my characters, making them come alive for my readers, and creating a profound connection between them and my own narratives.
Great new video. Love the break down of the different styles.
I love the addition of examples here! Very useful.
I love your videos! I've been watching them for a couple years now. You're so insightful and relaxing. You make it feel like we're having a discussion about a shared passion, and I love that.
According to this, I fall somewhere in between lyrical and comical. I didn't have words for it before this, so thank you!
very informative
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on POV in relation to the different styles i.e. which works best with first person POV?
Ive got an ugly but effective process. I work all week for the weekend. And when im feeling particularly distressed I start journalling.
And then I dont stop until I have exhausted myself of my own misery. This weekend, I've drafted a quarter of a Gothic Fiction and two short stories. A few poems. And several drafts of a love letter. Im focusing in on the gothic novel now. I want to finish it. I dont write often but when I do I write a lot. Journalling is good for the soul.
I guess you could call my style experimental "stream of consciousness."
Great video! Raymond Carver's style of writing is pure genius! ❤
I write like a combination of William Gibson, Ryu Murakami and Thomas Pynchon. I haven't written in a while because I wasn't sober, now that I am I'm getting back into it, typing this at 7AM after not sleeping all night. Couldn't feel better about it.
Thank you for this. As I start my creative writing journey, I worry my writing is not lyrical. I now realise it doesn’t have to be. My preferred styles are contemporary and conversational with a hint of comical.
Great video as always, Shaelin - amazing job!
I think I’m definitely the lyrical writing style mingled with the period style for my book
I don't understand why contemporary writing style is considered the "gold standard". I write in this style and I find the style itself quite boring, and focus more on the story itself rather than the prose. I prefer reading the conversational style because it just feels more fun and full of life
From the examples, I cannot tell the differences between styles 1, 2, and 3, which all seem focused on more formal language, and also cannot tell the differences between styles 4, 5, and 6, which all seem conversational and in the narrator's head. Can you explain in more detail the distinctions that separate out each style? Maybe a video on each particular style and its eccentricities?
For the first style in particular, I think it would have been better to go back to its origins, and quote a passage from someone like Jane Austen or Rudyard Kipling. I write in a period style -- not fantastically well, but the example that was used struck me as a poor imitation.
I like this video and the way you explain the writing styles. I would like also to be a translator and editor one day, but I see this is not an easy work haha!!
experimental artist here XD and I love it, it matches perfectly with who I am
Contemporary here, for sure.
Mine is somewhere between voice-driven and conversational. Most of my writing tends to be very casually voiced first person narration, almost as if the main character is telling someone the story, but I usually stop just short of that actually being the case. I’ll try to avoid invoking the reader as a “character”, I generally won’t have the narrator say things like “you”, break the fourth wall or otherwise address the reader in any direct way, but the narration is still borderline conversational
Fantastic video
From the long hair to the short hair, you are vey beautiful ❤️
I definitely mix contemporary and lyrical, which is fun in the sci-fi genre.
Another great video 🙏
It seems as though most of these examples are in the first person, or they are very distinctive, such as period. Is this coincidence?
Most of my writing style is experimental and i love using ellipsis's when given the opportunity. I think for every writing style is arbitrary to the author and their target 🎯 audience.
Good chanel 👌🏻
My WIP is definitely conversational driven. My protagonist is 12 years old and uses big words, one of the reasons being she reads a lot.
Can I use all of them in one single book😂
Lyrical and voice-driven styles ✔
I'm surprised Carver has so much description. Maybe there's another more terse style like Elmore Leonard or John Scalzi, where they "leave out stuff readers tend to skip".
I find that a great representation of this style is Sally Rooney. Her voice tends to be very sparse and simple.
I've been told that my style is 'unique'. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I know that some people love it, but worry that others would express opinions of a less than complementary nature were they to be asked directly. I have an obsession with rhythm and flow, you see, and a penchant for using both understatement and overstatement. I focus on what 'feels right' and 'sounds right', but also on precision of meaning. The result often being a string of adverbs or adjectives - almost always three. Now that's a faux pas indeed! I find that it makes comedy come easily, but still worry that it will be condemned by modern critics who focus on brevity and simplicity. Obviously, I'm also prone to wordiness. So, my question is: Do you believe that readers and critics would recognize and appreciate what I'm doing, and, as a consequence, allow me to get away with what most would consider to be an amateurish, waffling mess, best suited fore house-training a puppy? In essence, are these habits something I need to send to their grave?
i think the way you channel your unique writing style would definitely make for a very interesting read on the stories you put out
@@Raikeran thanks
I think my writing style is a weird mix of contemporary and lyrical.
would there be a way of writing in a lyrical or contemporary style whilst maintaining character voice? (I'm writing a multi POV novel)
Im trying to make mine contemporary but we'll see what the beta readers say once I finish editing. My gut is telling me that mine is a combo of experimental and lyrical. I do love inverted alliteration
I have created a novel that uses present day writing style but then the narrative jumps to past events with language, typical of 1850. You may have said it is not done, can I have misunderstood you?
I was hoping you could tell me. But you neglected one thing. Anything told in 1st p POV need not be the voice driven style. The narrator in my story is from her perspective, but not her direct thoughts, more her impressions, things one does not put in words. For example, an excerpt from an Indian restaurant (lacking the italics):
‘The butter chicken is being very popular, ma’am.’
[italics] Of course! Mama’s golden roasted chicken, silky, crispy skin, toasty new potatoes, creamy avocado. Oh, yeah! Who’d’ve thought; an illegal able to afford real food? [end italics] ‘Sounds great. Could you fix it like you do for family?’ Her right hand found itself at her neck, but all she could caress was a button. She took a deep breath, allowing the sizzling aroma of the bird to fill her head.
I like the conversational style. Can you or anyone give suggestions of good writers who write that way? I went on google and asked that question, but it suggested "how to" rather than suggesting any authors. I'm already going to pick up some Jesse Ball books at my library. Does he always write that way?
I'm interested because I feel I can write that way, naturally, but I've never heard the term, and to be honest, I get caught up with suggestions on how to write this way and that, and my own style flounders in the background, forgotten. That's why I don't want to read and watch "how to" videos or articles because that's what gets me away from my own voice, which very well may be the conversational style... which I like.
David Sedaris is a good one. He does the conversational and comic style beautifully. Check out Me Talk Pretty One Day and When You Are Engulfed in Flames
Also Hank Green - An Absolutely Remarkable Thing, is written in conversational style
Try Thomas King. Green Grass Running Water is very conversational in parts
Thanks for these. I rode my bike to the library and got two by Ball. I looked at Sedaris, ‘Theft by Finding Diaries,’ but it was too big and I forgot to bring a bag to carry them home on my bike. But I read the first few paragraphs of all of them and found I liked them all right away... which is how I like it.
I’ve read Hank Green’s book already and loved it.
I didn’t see the Thomas King suggestion until I got home, but I’ll definitely be checking him out too. It’s got a high rating on Goodreads (4.3).
im not sure which writing style I have. but for my first novel, the way I write depends on my mc's personality. I'm writing a fantasy world yet my mc is someone who's super sarcastic and depressed and is so done with everything 24/7.
Probably comic with a bit of lyrical… but mostly comic
My writing style is journalistic, I like E Hemingway and Jack London but don't make a concious effeort to copy; It's important to be Yourself.!
I dunno what mine is 🤔
I do not like complicated texts like the third example. It is pointless and a bit boring. I think it is a good example of Purple prose. Apparently a monarchs history has more than one thread and each thread is also a story of devision. Still, noone knows what devision...
Unfortunately I am having a difficult moment trying to follow this video which seems to be a very good and informative. Your voice is not clear and very hard to follow the various illustrations. It's pitchy and cracking. Is it this video only ?
i'll follow your next videos for more
*Okay, I love the explanation…. I just have no idea how to place my own writing. Can someone help me, please? I have an excerpt.*
“If I thought anyone else in my Council fitting that description could defeat both Vivian Roland and your brother in battle, we would not be having this conversation. But as it is now, you are the one I suspect. So, Amara, where is your brother?”
I stare at my uncle, long enough to be considered confused.
“I wish I knew.” I say, at last. “And I wish I knew who the spy in your Council is, but I don’t.” I can set up another member of the Council, maybe. They’re not as innocent as they pretend to be. Set up some bread crumbs to inform my uncle of and follow.
That would be timed poorly, though. My uncle would think it suspicious, and it would be. Suddenly, there’s a trail when suspicion is placed on the spymaster? No, if I were going to set someone up, it ought to have been done already.
So, I’m left to convince him of my innocence.
*Thank you if you even read this far!*
In my amateur opinion this sounds like #6. voice-driven style
@@absolutelycitron1580 Thank you!!
It can be both contemporary and voice driven.
@@dua-e-zehra647 Thank you! I eventually opted to ask an irl buddy. I showed them three different ones. I was told all three were voice-driven, two were contemporary, one was lyrical and one was a little bit lyrical at some points, all three were slightly conversational, and the one that wasn’t contemporary had a touch of period influence.
@FrostKitty14 hey, I like the story! I love how you used dialogue as a hook. I was told that's not often used.
Seriously mam, you need o take some voice lessons. Your voice seems to be a feast of endless crackling and painfully throat gasping . Your content is brilliant. So sad it cannot be expressed in a pleasant speech form.
Good content but your cracky voice doesn't really help listening and I mention this because it seems that your natural voice is not cracky so you can actually control that by relaxing and breathing well while talking
It was very uncomfortable listening to this to be honest
What is shayen instagram ?
I love your videos xxx