Djokovic will secure No.1. Hard times for Federer - Nadal tied his record of 20 GS titles, while Djokovic will soon reach Federer's record of 310 weeks as top ranked player and then surpass him in March. Both Nadal and Djokivc will win more than 20 GS titles.I am sure of it.
@@mavric2467 Haha. If Djokoivc wins his 6th ATP Finals title he will be tied with Federer. With 5 titles Djokovic is currently tied with Lendl and Sampras.
@@TahmidSalehTennisForumBy Winning the F.O he passed Federer with most final appearances from one slam:13. If Nadal ends the year at # 2 it will be for a record 12th time passing Federer. Most match wins from one slam is Federer with 102 at the A.O. Nadal can break that record next year at the F.O. Six times Federer has won two slams in one year which is the record. If Nadal or Novak win two slams next year one or both of them will tie Federer.
Very good work. Thanks for crunching the numbers for us. Djokovic is in very good shape to be Number One. And congratulations on the growth of your channel.
Thank you my friend really appreciate the kind words! And yep Novak is indeed in prime position not just for the Year End #1 but the weeks at number 1 too
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum had to had record especially in last 10 years. You just see what he was able to accomplish by 33 years off age. He beat both Rafa and Nadal easy. I think on any surface except clay he when he get them he almost know he will beat them. All he is also up with lot off records like Big Titles. He is just more complete player. I’m 50 years old and I watch every single game they played and I remember when Novak lost from them it was in his young age when he didn’t know he he’d problem with gluten. Soon as he stare eat gluten free food he become more strong.
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum Big titles, head to head, weeks will soon also great reason, 4 slams in a row, all masters ATP won twice, probably most end years no1, most ATP finals.. Novak dominates everywhere except GS titles for now.
@Патриота 63 GOST IS alwyas subjective... Dont know why u guys r bringing out criteria for urself but djokovic in evry interview said he want to beat fedex gs records just to claim GOAT... wait for 1 or 2 years n see whether he surpaased or not if not then he cannot be claim GOAT except by some of his die hard fans...
Your channel deserves all the subscribers and support that has had!!! I don’t see Djokovic loosing before the SF in Vienna and if that happens i really can’t see him loosing all his matches in London, and even if these two things happen it’s still hard to believe that Nadal can win both Paris and London for the first time in his career...so yes...Djokovic will finish the season as world nr 1 for the 6th time tying Sampras record...
Thank you so much Daniela for the very kind words! Always a pleasure to hear from you and yep you've put it brilliantly, thoroughly unlikely that Novak doesn't end 2020 as Number 1 now.. Scary to imagine how focused he'll be on slams (and possibly masters 1000) once the weeks at number 1 record is broken.. Perhaps one more year focused on Rankings to overtake Pete with 7 YE#1 :O
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum You're welcome. Keep up the good work! The pleasure is all ours to have you as an impartial and knowledgeable tennis commentator! For sure Novak will continue to pursue his goals! Many tennis analysts and fans seem to have given up believing that among the three, Novak still is more likely to end up as the Greatest of all time. Just because Nadal won FO as he should, just because he's tied with Roger and 3 Slams ahead of Novak now ... i mean If Novak had won the USO now he would be 2 Slams behind Rafa and Roger ... So we are talking about only one Slam difference ... has Rafa become the most likely because of that? This is nonsense for me ... Djokovic won the AO and just lost a match tenistically speaking, this season so far, he has no reason to be discouraged ... he is 3 slams behind Rafa and Roger and it's not that much ... Some Next Gen are very good, but not that good (if you know what i mean), the h2h with Rafa is favorable to him... he knows who's the better player outside clay... Novak will still be the favorite in all off-clay Slams for 3/4 years ... so, for me, nothing has changed! His ambition and determination remain unchanged, he admits that, unlike the others. “There are people who are upset when I really reveal my ambition, but it educated me to be honest. There are people who like to pretend, but I respect that. I am like that and I clearly say that my goal is to be the best tennis player in history and I am working on it ”. (Djokovic talking to the press)
@@danielam.4203 Amazing knowledge and passion, very glad to have you on the channel! Next 2 years could be huge for Novak.. He could really do with a 2011 or 2015 type of season
Tahmid, good job as usual, presenting ranking scenarios. Its good news for all Novak fans, as he's pretty much YE No.1 and will break 310 week record on March 8. Anyhow Winning ATP Final and Australian open should be priority for Novak as other things will fall in place automatically!! Keep posting Tahmid, we wait for your post!! Wishing you 5K subscribers soon!!
The GOAT Debate 2020 (This is what the stats say so far) The Greatest of all Time is the most dominant player of all time. Dominance is not determined by Grand Slam wins alone. Grand Slams are only a small part of the tennis schedule. Dominance is determined by win percentage(Career + H2H), weeks at number 1 and Big Titles won. Grand Slams (value = 2000): Roger 20, Rafa 20 and Novak 17 ATP Finals won (value = 1500): Roger 6, Rafa 0, Novak 5 Masters 1000s won (value = 1000): Roger 28, Rafa 35 and Novak 36 Olympic golds won (value = 2000 Maybe): Roger 0, Rafa 1 and Novak 0 All 4 above: Roger 54, Rafa 57 and Novak 58 Career so far All 4 above(Adjusted by value): Roger 77, Rafa 77 and Novak 77.5 Career so far * Based on these stats they are almost exactly equal in GOATness. ----------------- But lets look at these massive factors too. * Grand Slams: everyone * Calender Year Grand Slams: none * All Grand Slams at the same time: Novak Only * This speaks to dominance(at least in Granslam tournaments) in a 52 week period. * All Grand Slams Twice: none * Career Golden Masters: Novak Only x 2 * This speaks to consistency and dominance in all locations and conditions. An incredible feat. * Weeks at number 1: Roger 310, Novak 292, Rafa 209 * Roger marginally takes this one. Note that it is alot harder to be number 1 in the world than to win a Grandslam title. It takes aprox. 10000 points to get to number 1, whereas a Grandslam only awards 2000 points. You could win all 4 Grandslams in a year and still only have 8000 points. * So based on that, I would give 52 weeks at number 1 = 10000 points, which we can simplify to 10. All Titles + weeks at number 1: Roger 136, Rafa 117 and Novak 133 * This would suggest that Roger is GOAT, the Novak, then Rafa * Also note that maintaining number 1 for 52 weeks is very very tough, and so this should be given extra weight. Maybe an extra 2 points for each consecutive year holding number 1? Whatever. * Head to Head: Rafa-Roger: 24-16 Roger-Novak: 23-27 Rafa-Novak: 27-29 * Novak marginally takes this one. ----------------- Grand Slam per year: Roger: 0.91, Rafa: 1.11, Novak: 1.13 * Win %: Roger: 82%, Rafa: 83.2%, Novak: 83.2% Well boys and girls, there it is, the stats show they are pretty even in every way but I'd put Novak ahead on bonus points for the H2H, Career Golden Masters, All slams at the same time and then 2nd weeks at number one.
Gosh... 👍👍 If u have written all these on your own.. Agree with you completely!! The GOAT race just can't be completed by Most Grand Slams alone Weeks as No 1 Year End No 1s World Tour Finals Masters 1000( Masters probably 25% less important THAN Grand Slams)
Masters 1000 tournaments in a way were revolutionised from the older editions by the likes of Agassi Federer Safin Roddick and carried forward by the likes of Djokovic Nadal AND Murray!!! It just baffles me that Pete Sampras has More Grand Slams(14) than Masters trophies (11) probably because they were pretty much played like Grand Slams back them with Five set semifinals and Finals.. But over the last couple of Decades Masters 1000 trophies have increased in worth and importance and in no way it can be overlooked while considering the GOAT debate.
@@brijmehta9421 Thanks. Well I base the importance of each milestone on its ATP point value(the only completely fair and impartial way to do it so I'm not randomly assigning points based on my sentiment) therefore: Grandslam 2000 points = 2pts. Masters 1000 = 1pt, reaching number 1 is 10000 points = 10pts per 52 weeks. This point system is a pure math / statistical way of looking at their achievements so we can now skip over personal feelings and biases towards or against anyone. Additionally, using this an ATP based points system negates arguments about "the difficulty of Masters1000s changing from 3 sets to 2 sets" or "the Federer weak era"(which in order to prove mathematically and assign or detract points we would have to deeply analyze every single player to determine their 'dominance' factor and aint nobody got time for that). I think when we can accurately put a value to things like difficulty of opponent or conditions then we can add them into the discussion, but until someone takes the time to analyze those things they should be left out completely. After all this is a stats channel so let the numbers do the talking.
Before 2015 (Nadal worst form ever) the H2H was 23-19 for Nadal. In 2015-2016, the 2 worst years ever for Nadal, he was 0-7 against Djokovic. In 2017, Nadal found his true form and the H2H since that time is now 4-3 for Nadal. The evidence right here that Djokovic improved his H2H in 2015-2016 against the worst Nadal ever.
Thank you for this video Tahmed. Djokovic will become the most weeks for the No.1. Nadal equalis the 20 GS, and the Djoker will get in one or two seasons. Hard times for Federer..😉
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum Grand Slam Race will be led BY Nadal.. ( at least for the time being) Most Weeks as World No 1 will be led by Djokovic Most Year End World No 1 will be led by Djokovic.. 7 ( 6 BY Sampras and 5 each Nadal and Federer) Most Masters 1000 will be led by Djokovic.. I assume he will reach 40 by next year and Nadal to closely follow around 37-38.
Bravo Mann BRAVO... That's why your channel is growing the way it is.. Clear straight direct facts and numbers... Yes Nadal should really look at these two tournaments as Winning the Feathers which is missing from his Illustrious Cap!! I did mention it few weeks ago.. Djokovic might just play Vienna and have a go at those 500 points.. Not just for this year But it will also give him a good lead as World No 1 next year as well.. Two of Federer's most priced Records are in serious Danger next year!
Rafa has posted on both his Facebook & Twitter account that he's preparing for Paris Masters in his academy. So I guess he's confirmed to play there. Novak has secured the #1, there's no way that he doesn't get to the Quarters in Vienna or win 1 Round Robin match in ATP Finals. Like he said in an interview recently, the YE #1 is in his own hands, not on what Rafa does & where he decides to play. It'll be great to see Rafa & Nole back in action in these upcoming weeks. Hoping for Rafa to win the titles in Paris (he could do it this year) & at ATP Finals (not likely, but he still does have a shot there)
It's so nice to hear the facts fr you tahmid, next year Novak will break Federer record for most weeks at no. 1 then next will be the most grand slams record by 2022.
Tahmid i think after NOVAK overpass federer weeks number one record in March he probably will be only focused on grand slam and no need to be playing nuclear tennis on every tournament to maintain position number 1..... then his tennis life will be much relax
Interesting to note that Thiem was actually the best player in grand slams this year. He has 1 title, 1 final, and 1 QF. I dont know when was the last time a player performed better than one of the big 3 with all grand slams combined... Very big achievement that no one is talking about. The last time this happened was probably in 2002...
Yes, Thiem has had an amazing shortened covid ravaged season. Before this video, I didn’t understand why Rafa had a shot to end number one but not Thiem. I’d like to see Thiem become the next world number one and soon!
It would be a bigger deal if not for Djokovic's DQ and Rafa skipping the US Open, not to mention no Wimbledon, which is Thiem's worst surface. Not to downplay his success, but let's keep things in perspective.
Today the goat is Federer. Nadal is about to beat him. However in the long term I believe Novak will beat both of them. Novak is healthier than the other two, so he will have a longer career. It seems that at the moment, nobody can beat him at Wimbledon when he is playing gold enough. He doesn't need to play at his best to win at Wimbledon. Therefore, Australia and Wimbledon will be for him the next years to come. Lets see
Bercy is the most unpredictable tournament with so many surprise winners. For many players like Ferrer, Soderling, Sock, Berdych (Khachanov also with a chance to join the list), it is their only win at Masters 1000 level or above. I feel it's mostly because of the schedule - late in the year when people are fatigued. This year may be a little different with most players well rested. This probably is the best chance for Rafa to win here. PS: it's really odd that Sock has as many Masters 1000 titles as Stan, Cilic, Ferrer or Delpo and more than Nishikori or Raonic.
Brilliant stats video once again Tahmid ! Pretty much agreed with everything you said. YE#1 is guarantedd for Djokovic this year. What i want to see from Djokovic is that if he is also willing and wanting to break the record of most WTF wins after the "disappointments" of this year's USO and RG. It woud be really neat to get both of them (number of wins of YE#1 and WTF) at the same year, but he may also just want to hold back and get well prepared for AO21, so it should be interesting to see. As for Nadal, we all know his history on indoor hard courts, but given the fact that this year neither Djokovic nor Federer are playing in Paris, and that he hasnt played a lot in 2020 and being fresh, this might be his best chance to win Paris for the first time in his career ! WTF is another story, and my honest opinion is that he will never get the win there, but never say never with Nadal, although is highly unlikely ! Great analysis !
Thank you for the support as always my friend its always much appreciated! Great analysis from yourself too! Let's see if Novak can end the year well with victories in Vienna and London
Win Grand Slam tournament beating at least one of top 3 seed player. 1. Djoković 15/17 (88,2%) 2. Nadal 15/20 (75%) 3. Federer 10/20 (50%) Win Grand Slam beating one of top 3 seed player in final 1.Djoković 11/17 (64,7) 2. Nadal 12/20 (60%) 3. Federer 5/20 (25%) Win Grand Slam against unranked player in final 2. Djoković 1/17 (5,88%) 1. Nadal 1/19 (5,26%) 3. Federer 3/20 (15%) Numbers ar the same or worse at ATP 1000 Atp Finals for Federer.
In terms of age comparison, Djoko and Nadal were actually looking slightly better than Fed for career wins and tournament wins. But Covid has slowed them down a bit. It seems unlikely Fed's match wins and tournament wins tally can be passed by his two rivals, especially as he is still on Tour himself, but the stat comparisons still say it is quite possible.
Wolf man is a good Dude. Rafa has given up on finishing number one. The tournaments that he should’ve played if he made the year end number one a priority are the 1000 event in New York and Vienna. As a fan of his, I feel the us open should’ve been a priority. I don’t understand the thinking behind skipping the us open then playing Paris Indoors. New York had hardcore COVID-19 guidelines in place. From what I’ve been reading on Twitter it seems Rafa will play both Paris and the ATP championship.
Year end no. 1 is secured for Nole lets say... miracles do happen, but its unlikely as of now... As far as rafa's participation in paris, his recent tweeter post confirms that, strongest chance to win bercy for 1st time given that he has played less, fresh & in the absence of roger & nole, perhaps he is one of the favourites
Shouid mention that it would be a possibility for Novak to play Paris if he looses early un Vienna. Just to try to win it and avoid Nadal to do ir and get they maximum points. If he succeded he would also secure year end number one...and also another Master 1000 win
Hi Tahmid, how do you know, that Djokovic is gonna skip Paris Masters this year? Do you know more about the tournament tree in Paris? Thank you for your reply.
Novak already put the statement out about skipping Paris because he can’t gain points there since he won it last year. He is playing the other tournaments where there points to be had.
Medvedev should really Consider himself extremely lucky to be still in Top 8... All on the basis of his two masters 1000 victories and US Open Final in 2019... What a disaster year this has been for Medvedev!
At tennis.com few days ago it says "Djokovic is currently No. 1 and way in front of his competitors, and players cannot drop points for at least another four and a half months under the specially adjusted ATP rankings." Meaning till March. However, at atptour.com it says "Rankings will now cover a period of 22 months (March 2019 - December 2020)." It is weird that we cannot find out which is true, because it makes all the difference in the world right now. If the former is true, Novak is certain to achieve historic number one in March. Otherwise it will be a struggle
At the start of 2021 they should re start the 52 week ATP tour otherwise just like Novak has done, players will be missing tournaments because they already have the maximum points there
Well players have been doing that since tennis resumed but the only tournaments that may be effected by changing it to March 2021 would probably be AO and dubai/acapulco
Thanks for explaining the weird temporary point system. I knew Rafa still had an outside chance to end number one because it says so on the ATP website but it didn’t make sense to me he could but not Thiem because I knew Thiem has had a better 2020 by points. Now it is clear.
@@goldwolf0606 is my fellow doctor. It would be nice to work with him in the same hospital. After a few elevator rides he would become Nole fan number one for sure 😉
i think you forgot that Federer not gonna play, so Rublev and Schwrtzman are both gonna play in London for now, so 9th position on atp list is a place for which they fight for.
Rankings will be frozen until March. Reasons: One, Djokovic has mentioned it in interviews. Second, if you see “drop date” for ranking points for Aus Open and Dubai in Djokovic’s rankings breakdown page on ATP site, you will see it is 2022. That means the rankings are frozen. You can check for other players as well for tournaments in Jan and Feb and early March.
Djokovic has said in vienna interview that the corona ranking is extended till march 2021. If djokovic wins vienna,does it guarantee 310 weeks at no 1?
Not yet. Depends on Nadal's performance in Paris, London and AO. But if Djokovic makes the final in London he locks the number 1 position till March for sure.
Best chance ever for Nadal to win Paris and the end of year event given his freshness.... .....as for end of year #1, I think it should be based on the new "elongated" rating system. But to qualify for the End of Year special event, I think it should only be on 2020 results. As such, 2019 End of Year results wouldn't be taken away but one has the chance to improve if they actually qualify again in their own right i.e. Medvedev wouldn't likely be playing given his average 2020.
Agreed about this being Rafas best chance to win Paris and London.. And haha thank you for using my makeshift word to describe it :').. I like your idea.. It would be good to reward 2020s brave performers with a spot in London..
Djokovic will finish year end no.1 for the 6th time even if he skips Vienna.. I don't see Rafa winning bercy and winning all round Robin matches in London
If they don’t extend froze until Mitch 8,2021 that would be obvious against Novak Djokovic while he defend points and Nadal and Thime don’t if im Novak Djokovic I would not agree otherwise and I would call all media and tell them this is prove off conspiracy against NOVAK Djokovic
The main reason I think Novak playing the Vienna is because he has nothing to gain at AO and rafa can earn more point cause he just earn 360 points there last year. But that 2000 point margin is still high, it will come down to how Nadal Perform at Paris & London if he can get extra 500-1000 than Novak it will be interesting next year at AO.
All the records will be rewritten by Djokovic and Nadal. Nadals next GS win eliminates Federers GS lead. When Djokovic beats 310 weeks at #1, eliminates Federer. Masters 1000, Federer not even 30 wins as Rafa and Djokovic. Because there are 3, the 3rd will be irrelevant. Djokovic, Nadal, xxxxxxxx. Kids at tennis academy celebrate Djokovic not Federer(Tennis Channel quote) The player of the decade, Djokovlc(Tennis Channel) and it wasn't even close. Federer played 6 more years yet his records are falling already?
Rafa wants to win paris masters because nole is not playing... this is his best opportunity to win the title that he has never won. Thats the only way i am seeing it... or else i see no point in him skipping US open and then now... playing PARIS !!! 🤔
@@mail2vw If some one says they aren't playing for Records or History.. They are lying to themselves and to millions of other!! Why do you think All Three have dominated the game for Two decades combined.. It's because all three wants a big piece of history and some major chunk of Records!! That's their driving force..
Technically Thiem could earn another 3000 points in actual points earned in 2020 and have a mathematical chance of passing Novak if that’s what was being counted.
No he cannot, he is defending champion of Vienna, Round 2 of Paris and Runner up in London from 2019. Therefore he can only add a maximum of 1610 more points to his current total and so has no mathematical chance of overtaking Novak.. I hope this clears it up my friend :)
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum Hi Tahmid. Sorry, I didn’t make my point clear enough. If they were only counting points earned in 2020, which they are not, Thiem could still pass Djokovic. You have the points total listed. 6365 to 3725. If Thiem won Vienna, Paris and London without a loss, he would be at 6,725 points in a normal year. You said that Novak already has clinched that if it would have been counted that way, which it’s not.
Djokovic has officially secured his Year End no.1 by beating Ćoric as Nadal has rejected a wildcard entry at Sofia Open. This article explains: www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-can-rafael-nadal-snatch-year-end-no-1-ranking-novak-djokovic-a-look-scenarios
Tamid u are talking like crap I had to say. Was there enough tournments to play in 2020 to have a year end number 1. Was there a fair distribution of surface and tournment to have a year end no 1. Only one clay tournment and rest all hard and indoors cant u see how big a advantage this is for players who prefer hard court. This year the Year end no 1 has no value
Rafa's integrity these days is questionable.. not sure if thats because his gr8 uncle toni is missing in his camp but... i see quite a few misses from rafa s camp. Citing health risks to him and his team, he missed USO and then even when cases were increasing, he participated in FRENCH OPEN... AND now with cases in FRANCE literally at its all time high.. with appr 40k cases per day, he still prefers to participate in a masters event !!!! 🤔🙄🤨 I know there is a lil but of history attached to it but.... i smell hypocrisy !!! Anybody feels the same way or is it just me.... overthinking ? Nole and rafans!?? Comments??
@@mikeldubois6084 ok.. i got it now... it was real and relevant till USO... in rafa s case... and now suddenly, its proven to be BS.. in rafa s case.. so is he opting to participate in paris regardless !!?? If thats ur point, Thanks for enlightening m8 !!
@@guruk Nadal's been navigating tennis seasons based on his surface preferences for years on end, without ever having to admit as much. There's usually been a convenient injury as an excuse to skip the indoor part of the season. This year the excuse's been the pandemic. Nadal most probably skipped USO cause his team speculated that it would be too hard to play two Grand Slams and a clay warm-up in Rome within a span of a month and a half. And they were proven right - just look at what happened with Djokovic and Thiem who were simply too spent towards the end of RG. The icing on the cake was the fact that Nadal didn't lose any points by not defending his USO title. I've heard nothing about Nadal withdrawing from Paris, so I'll have to assume that he's still playing. Don't worry, he'll just put on his shield of invincibility that he normally uses in Paris (you know, on that other tournament) so the germs can't get to him. P-and?-emic
the reason why novak is not considered in the same league as ROGER AND RAFA.. because of his selfishness... he is always running after numbers and records rather than pure love and passion for the game.. which is the thing of utmost importance for FEDAL.. No matter how many slams he wins or how many year end no.1 or weeks at no.1 .he will never be the ambassador of tennis ..the way FEDAL are...
nikhil vaibhav....and you fedal fans decide it or what .... you are pretty rude and conceited. GO AND keep inventing new invented properties. I SWEAR YOU FEDAL FANS life in a fantasy world; EVERYTIME when djokovic win a grandslam or break a new record, the fedal fans or the fedal media come with some nonsense topic what has nothing to do with this situation. YOUR BAD LOSERS ... you have to learn to lose ...Djokovic is a great role model and a great ambassador for tennis sport
@@travisbickle5279 I agree totally. They're all running after numbers and all love the game. They're all rich enough to retire if they want to but they don't. ..."not in the same league..."?What a load of twaddle!:) True he doesn't come from the privileged background that the other two did, he grew up under bombs in bomb shelters, but he more than makes up for his early disadvantages.
Haha seriously? Why is it that Federer is still playing at age 40!! Don't think it's love for the tennis... Think it has to two with two other players about to start breaking his records.... You can tell your self it's the love of the game. God I hope djo/rafa play until they are 40 as well for the love of the game as Mr Federer. The media definitely has had an effect on people such as your self believing all the narratives that they report on that hateful serbian guy. They should get a raise seems like it's working.
Djokovic will secure No.1.
Hard times for Federer - Nadal tied his record of 20 GS titles, while Djokovic will soon reach Federer's record of 310 weeks as top ranked player and then surpass him in March.
Both Nadal and Djokivc will win more than 20 GS titles.I am sure of it.
the next one is the atp finals record which get broken, but the popularity award still remains for him lol
@@mavric2467 Haha.
If Djokoivc wins his 6th ATP Finals title he will be tied with Federer.
With 5 titles Djokovic is currently tied with Lendl and Sampras.
The next 2 years could see Roger lose a lot of records... We shall see
@@TahmidSalehTennisForumBy Winning the F.O he passed Federer with most final appearances from one slam:13.
If Nadal ends the year at # 2 it will be for a record 12th time passing Federer.
Most match wins from one slam is Federer with 102 at the A.O. Nadal can break that record next year at the F.O. Six times Federer has won two slams in one year which is the record. If Nadal or Novak win two slams next year one or both of them will tie Federer.
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum Yes Federer will lose most of his records by 2023
Very good work. Thanks for crunching the numbers for us. Djokovic is in very good shape to be Number One. And congratulations on the growth of your channel.
Thank you my friend really appreciate the kind words! And yep Novak is indeed in prime position not just for the Year End #1 but the weeks at number 1 too
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum Yes, that's right. Weeks at Number One also!
We all know, They trying to hold Novak from becoming GOAT from US Open disqualification to media lie. Novak is already GOAT.
Which records make him the GOAT already for you?
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum had to had record especially in last 10 years. You just see what he was able to accomplish by 33 years off age. He beat both Rafa and Nadal easy. I think on any surface except clay he when he get them he almost know he will beat them. All he is also up with lot off records like Big Titles. He is just more complete player. I’m 50 years old and I watch every single game they played and I remember when Novak lost from them it was in his young age when he didn’t know he he’d problem with gluten. Soon as he stare eat gluten free food he become more strong.
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@@TahmidSalehTennisForum Big titles, head to head, weeks will soon also great reason, 4 slams in a row, all masters ATP won twice, probably most end years no1, most ATP finals..
Novak dominates everywhere except GS titles for now.
@Патриота 63 GOST IS alwyas subjective... Dont know why u guys r bringing out criteria for urself but djokovic in evry interview said he want to beat fedex gs records just to claim GOAT... wait for 1 or 2 years n see whether he surpaased or not if not then he cannot be claim GOAT except by some of his die hard fans...
Your channel deserves all the subscribers and support that has had!!! I don’t see Djokovic loosing before the SF in Vienna and if that happens i really can’t see him loosing all his matches in London, and even if these two things happen it’s still hard to believe that Nadal can win both Paris and London for the first time in his career...so yes...Djokovic will finish the season as world nr 1 for the 6th time tying Sampras record...
Thank you so much Daniela for the very kind words! Always a pleasure to hear from you and yep you've put it brilliantly, thoroughly unlikely that Novak doesn't end 2020 as Number 1 now.. Scary to imagine how focused he'll be on slams (and possibly masters 1000) once the weeks at number 1 record is broken.. Perhaps one more year focused on Rankings to overtake Pete with 7 YE#1 :O
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum You're welcome. Keep up the good work! The pleasure is all ours to have you as an impartial and knowledgeable tennis commentator! For sure Novak will continue to pursue his goals! Many tennis analysts and fans seem to have given up believing that among the three, Novak still is more likely to end up as the Greatest of all time. Just because Nadal won FO as he should, just because he's tied with Roger and 3 Slams ahead of Novak now ... i mean If Novak had won the USO now he would be 2 Slams behind Rafa and Roger ... So we are talking about only one Slam difference ... has Rafa become the most likely because of that? This is nonsense for me ... Djokovic won the AO and just lost a match tenistically speaking, this season so far, he has no reason to be discouraged ... he is 3 slams behind Rafa and Roger and it's not that much ... Some Next Gen are very good, but not that good (if you know what i mean), the h2h with Rafa is favorable to him... he knows who's the better player outside clay... Novak will still be the favorite in all off-clay Slams for 3/4 years ... so, for me, nothing has changed! His ambition and determination remain unchanged, he admits that, unlike the others. “There are people who are upset when I really reveal my ambition, but it educated me to be honest. There are people who like to pretend, but I respect that. I am like that and I clearly say that my goal is to be the best tennis player in history and I am working on it ”. (Djokovic talking to the press)
@@danielam.4203 Amazing knowledge and passion, very glad to have you on the channel! Next 2 years could be huge for Novak.. He could really do with a 2011 or 2015 type of season
Tahmid, good job as usual, presenting ranking scenarios. Its good news for all Novak fans, as he's pretty much YE No.1 and will break 310 week record on March 8.
Anyhow Winning ATP Final and Australian open should be priority for Novak as other things will fall in place automatically!! Keep posting Tahmid, we wait for your post!! Wishing you 5K subscribers soon!!
Haha 5k subscribers may yet take another couple of years! But the support you show helps the channel grow! :)
The GOAT Debate 2020 (This is what the stats say so far)
The Greatest of all Time is the most dominant player of all time. Dominance is not determined by Grand Slam wins alone. Grand Slams are only a small part of the tennis schedule.
Dominance is determined by win percentage(Career + H2H), weeks at number 1 and Big Titles won.
Grand Slams (value = 2000): Roger 20, Rafa 20 and Novak 17
ATP Finals won (value = 1500): Roger 6, Rafa 0, Novak 5
Masters 1000s won (value = 1000): Roger 28, Rafa 35 and Novak 36
Olympic golds won (value = 2000 Maybe): Roger 0, Rafa 1 and Novak 0
All 4 above: Roger 54, Rafa 57 and Novak 58 Career so far
All 4 above(Adjusted by value): Roger 77, Rafa 77 and Novak 77.5 Career so far
* Based on these stats they are almost exactly equal in GOATness.
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But lets look at these massive factors too.
* Grand Slams: everyone
* Calender Year Grand Slams: none
* All Grand Slams at the same time: Novak Only
* This speaks to dominance(at least in Granslam tournaments) in a 52 week period.
* All Grand Slams Twice: none
* Career Golden Masters: Novak Only x 2
* This speaks to consistency and dominance in all locations and conditions. An incredible feat.
* Weeks at number 1: Roger 310, Novak 292, Rafa 209
* Roger marginally takes this one. Note that it is alot harder to be number 1 in the world than to win a Grandslam title. It takes aprox. 10000 points to get to number 1, whereas a Grandslam only awards 2000 points. You could win all 4 Grandslams in a year and still only have 8000 points.
* So based on that, I would give 52 weeks at number 1 = 10000 points, which we can simplify to 10.
All Titles + weeks at number 1: Roger 136, Rafa 117 and Novak 133
* This would suggest that Roger is GOAT, the Novak, then Rafa
* Also note that maintaining number 1 for 52 weeks is very very tough, and so this should be given extra weight. Maybe an extra 2 points for each consecutive year holding number 1? Whatever.
* Head to Head: Rafa-Roger: 24-16 Roger-Novak: 23-27 Rafa-Novak: 27-29
* Novak marginally takes this one.
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Grand Slam per year: Roger: 0.91, Rafa: 1.11, Novak: 1.13
* Win %: Roger: 82%, Rafa: 83.2%, Novak: 83.2%
Well boys and girls, there it is, the stats show they are pretty even in every way but I'd put Novak ahead on bonus points for the H2H, Career Golden Masters, All slams at the same time and then 2nd weeks at number one.
and novak is 1 year younger then nadal, he is perfect in the timeline
Gosh... 👍👍 If u have written all these on your own..
Agree with you completely!!
The GOAT race just can't be completed by Most Grand Slams alone
Weeks as No 1
Year End No 1s
World Tour Finals
Masters 1000( Masters probably 25% less important THAN Grand Slams)
Masters 1000 tournaments in a way were revolutionised from the older editions by the likes of Agassi Federer Safin Roddick and carried forward by the likes of Djokovic Nadal AND Murray!!!
It just baffles me that Pete Sampras has More Grand Slams(14) than Masters trophies (11) probably because they were pretty much played like Grand Slams back them with Five set semifinals and Finals..
But over the last couple of Decades Masters 1000 trophies have increased in worth and importance and in no way it can be overlooked while considering the GOAT debate.
@@brijmehta9421 Thanks. Well I base the importance of each milestone on its ATP point value(the only completely fair and impartial way to do it so I'm not randomly assigning points based on my sentiment) therefore: Grandslam 2000 points = 2pts. Masters 1000 = 1pt, reaching number 1 is 10000 points = 10pts per 52 weeks. This point system is a pure math / statistical way of looking at their achievements so we can now skip over personal feelings and biases towards or against anyone.
Additionally, using this an ATP based points system negates arguments about "the difficulty of Masters1000s changing from 3 sets to 2 sets" or "the Federer weak era"(which in order to prove mathematically and assign or detract points we would have to deeply analyze every single player to determine their 'dominance' factor and aint nobody got time for that).
I think when we can accurately put a value to things like difficulty of opponent or conditions then we can add them into the discussion, but until someone takes the time to analyze those things they should be left out completely.
After all this is a stats channel so let the numbers do the talking.
Before 2015 (Nadal worst form ever) the H2H was 23-19 for Nadal. In 2015-2016, the 2 worst years ever for Nadal, he was 0-7 against Djokovic. In 2017, Nadal found his true form and the H2H since that time is now 4-3 for Nadal. The evidence right here that Djokovic improved his H2H in 2015-2016 against the worst Nadal ever.
Thank you for this video Tahmed.
Djokovic will become the most weeks for the No.1. Nadal equalis the 20 GS, and the Djoker will get in one or two seasons.
Hard times for Federer..😉
How many records will fall in 2021?
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum
Grand Slam Race will be led BY Nadal.. ( at least for the time being)
Most Weeks as World No 1 will be led by Djokovic
Most Year End World No 1 will be led by Djokovic.. 7 ( 6 BY Sampras and 5 each Nadal and Federer)
Most Masters 1000 will be led by Djokovic.. I assume he will reach 40 by next year and Nadal to closely follow around 37-38.
Great analysis, as usual. Thanks.
Thank you for the kind words my friend glad you are enjoying the content :)
Great commentary as usual Tahmid! Keep up the good work. Thanks for clarifying everything.
Thank you my friend appreciate the kind words and support :) glad to be of some use haha
Bravo Mann BRAVO...
That's why your channel is growing the way it is..
Clear straight direct facts and numbers...
Yes Nadal should really look at these two tournaments as Winning the Feathers which is missing from his Illustrious Cap!!
I did mention it few weeks ago..
Djokovic might just play Vienna and have a go at those 500 points..
Not just for this year
But it will also give him a good lead as World No 1 next year as well..
Two of Federer's most priced Records are in serious Danger next year!
Thank you very much and yes you did indeed bring up the Vienna prediction weeks ago so great stuff! Glad to have you on the channel! Very well said :)
Very well explained. Cleared up a lot of questions I had.
That's awesome to hear very glad to be able to help! :) hope you continue enjoying the content
Rafa has posted on both his Facebook & Twitter account that he's preparing for Paris Masters in his academy. So I guess he's confirmed to play there.
Novak has secured the #1, there's no way that he doesn't get to the Quarters in Vienna or win 1 Round Robin match in ATP Finals. Like he said in an interview recently, the YE #1 is in his own hands, not on what Rafa does & where he decides to play.
It'll be great to see Rafa & Nole back in action in these upcoming weeks. Hoping for Rafa to win the titles in Paris (he could do it this year) & at ATP Finals (not likely, but he still does have a shot there)
Any tournaments GOATdal enters, he has more than “a shot”... he is GOATdal for a reason.
Very respectfully said thank you! And yep does look like Rafa will be in Paris and then probably London too
Thanks for a well thought out video! I enjoy your channel!
Awesome to hear! Glad you enjoy it and hope you will continue to enjoy it! :)
It's so nice to hear the facts fr you tahmid, next year Novak will break Federer record for most weeks at no. 1 then next will be the most grand slams record by 2022.
Thank you for the kind words Scott! And woah some big ambitions you have for Novak haha
Your videos are amazing! Keep it up! 👏👏👏
Thank you my friend really appreciate it hope you continue to enjoy the content! :)
Novak Djokovic secures number 1 year and 2020 no more calculations.
Tahmid i think after NOVAK overpass federer weeks number one record in March he probably will be only focused on grand slam and no need to be playing nuclear tennis on every tournament to maintain position number 1..... then his tennis life will be much relax
Yep he has said so too himself that after the weeks at number 1 record is accomplished all his efforts will be on slams! Could be scary
Interesting to note that Thiem was actually the best player in grand slams this year. He has 1 title, 1 final, and 1 QF. I dont know when was the last time a player performed better than one of the big 3 with all grand slams combined... Very big achievement that no one is talking about. The last time this happened was probably in 2002...
Yes, Thiem has had an amazing shortened covid ravaged season. Before this video, I didn’t understand why Rafa had a shot to end number one but not Thiem. I’d like to see Thiem become the next world number one and soon!
It would be a bigger deal if not for Djokovic's DQ and Rafa skipping the US Open, not to mention no Wimbledon, which is Thiem's worst surface. Not to downplay his success, but let's keep things in perspective.
@@jdzau ofcourse, but its still happened, we had 3 slams, and on average, he performed better than nadal djokovic and federer...
@@brunoalves5790 DQ ... nothing else
Today the goat is Federer. Nadal is about to beat him. However in the long term I believe Novak will beat both of them. Novak is healthier than the other two, so he will have a longer career. It seems that at the moment, nobody can beat him at Wimbledon when he is playing gold enough. He doesn't need to play at his best to win at Wimbledon. Therefore, Australia and Wimbledon will be for him the next years to come. Lets see
Agreed. In four more years, Djokovic should be up to 25 majors!
GOATdal is the GOAT and he will 🛑 Novak at any tournament where he has no injury. 🥯
A wise man once said 'never count your slams before they are won'
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum you tell them tahmid 😂 and remind them of a certain chronic “ball toss shoulder” injury 😂
I completly agree with you
Bercy is the most unpredictable tournament with so many surprise winners. For many players like Ferrer, Soderling, Sock, Berdych (Khachanov also with a chance to join the list), it is their only win at Masters 1000 level or above. I feel it's mostly because of the schedule - late in the year when people are fatigued. This year may be a little different with most players well rested. This probably is the best chance for Rafa to win here.
PS: it's really odd that Sock has as many Masters 1000 titles as Stan, Cilic, Ferrer or Delpo and more than Nishikori or Raonic.
Brilliant stats video once again Tahmid ! Pretty much agreed with everything you said. YE#1 is guarantedd for Djokovic this year. What i want to see from Djokovic is that if he is also willing and wanting to break the record of most WTF wins after the "disappointments" of this year's USO and RG. It woud be really neat to get both of them (number of wins of YE#1 and WTF) at the same year, but he may also just want to hold back and get well prepared for AO21, so it should be interesting to see. As for Nadal, we all know his history on indoor hard courts, but given the fact that this year neither Djokovic nor Federer are playing in Paris, and that he hasnt played a lot in 2020 and being fresh, this might be his best chance to win Paris for the first time in his career ! WTF is another story, and my honest opinion is that he will never get the win there, but never say never with Nadal, although is highly unlikely ! Great analysis !
Thank you for the support as always my friend its always much appreciated! Great analysis from yourself too! Let's see if Novak can end the year well with victories in Vienna and London
Agree that this is Rafas best ever chance in Paris and potentially London too
Win Grand Slam tournament beating at least one of top 3 seed player.
1. Djoković 15/17 (88,2%)
2. Nadal 15/20 (75%)
3. Federer 10/20 (50%)
Win Grand Slam beating one of top 3 seed player in final
1.Djoković 11/17 (64,7)
2. Nadal 12/20 (60%)
3. Federer 5/20 (25%)
Win Grand Slam against unranked player in final
2. Djoković 1/17 (5,88%)
1. Nadal 1/19 (5,26%)
3. Federer 3/20 (15%)
Numbers ar the same or worse at ATP 1000 Atp Finals for Federer.
In other news - winning Grand Slam tournament wearing yellow shoe laces
1. Djokovic 97/21 (146,9%)
2. Nadal 11/10022 (44,0%)
3. Federer 147/987 (0%)
Good for Novak to focus on year end #1 and highest number of weeks at #1 by end of March next year.
He still has some time to achieve other goals.
Definitely a smart move for the rankings
Please mate give us a draw video on Vienna, Novak is there I'm very much exited to watch.
I'll try to release something over the weekend :)
Yes this will be interesting to see and what players will be on NOVAK side of the draw....
In terms of age comparison, Djoko and Nadal were actually looking slightly better than Fed for career wins and tournament wins. But Covid has slowed them down a bit. It seems unlikely Fed's match wins and tournament wins tally can be passed by his two rivals, especially as he is still on Tour himself, but the stat comparisons still say it is quite possible.
Wolf man is a good Dude.
Rafa has given up on finishing number one. The tournaments that he should’ve played if he made the year end number one a priority are the 1000 event in New York and Vienna. As a fan of his, I feel the us open should’ve been a priority. I don’t understand the thinking behind skipping the us open then playing Paris Indoors. New York had hardcore COVID-19 guidelines in place.
From what I’ve been reading on Twitter it seems Rafa will play both Paris and the ATP championship.
Which one?
@@mavric2467 gold wolf? diehard Nadal fan, sooooooooo annoying
Gold wolf I think for donating
@@danielrencsenyi917 oh I see now, that was meant ironically by him
@@mavric2467 - The only one
Winning AO 2021 is a MUST for Novak
Year end no. 1 is secured for Nole lets say... miracles do happen, but its unlikely as of now...
As far as rafa's participation in paris, his recent tweeter post confirms that, strongest chance to win bercy for 1st time given that he has played less, fresh & in the absence of roger & nole, perhaps he is one of the favourites
Thank you for letting me know! Yep does look like Rafa will play Paris and I'd assume London too after that
Shouid mention that it would be a possibility for Novak to play Paris if he looses early un Vienna. Just to try to win it and avoid Nadal to do ir and get they maximum points. If he succeded he would also secure year end number one...and also another Master 1000 win
Yep could indeed be the case.. Well spotted! Unlikely he crashes out before QF in Vienna though
NOVAK DJOKOVIC new record holder weeks number one record in March 8..... this is nice date... women day
I'm sure it is circled on your calender haha
Ranking system should be resume from the start of 2021. No more delay
Would it be fair for it to resume from March 2021? So a full year?
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum it's not fair and this effects Roger and Rafa most
@@asgharkhan7595 And how does it affect them the most???
Hi Tahmid, how do you know, that Djokovic is gonna skip Paris Masters this year? Do you know more about the tournament tree in Paris? Thank you for your reply.
Novak already put the statement out about skipping Paris because he can’t gain points there since he won it last year. He is playing the other tournaments where there points to be had.
Once we get the draw for Paris I'll be releasing content :)
All depends haw long Rafael Nadal Blood transfusions will hold, Usually he do good in first 3 months it may no hold until next French Open.
Well he doesn't need to be 100% to keep winning French Opens it seems!
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum Agree
Medvedev should really Consider himself extremely lucky to be still in Top 8...
All on the basis of his two masters 1000 victories and US Open Final in 2019...
What a disaster year this has been for Medvedev!
Indeed! Expected so much more from him after an amazing second half of 2019
At tennis.com few days ago it says "Djokovic is currently No. 1 and way in front of his competitors, and players cannot drop points for at least another four and a half months under the specially adjusted ATP rankings." Meaning till March.
However, at atptour.com it says "Rankings will now cover a period of 22 months (March 2019 - December 2020)."
It is weird that we cannot find out which is true, because it makes all the difference in the world right now. If the former is true, Novak is certain to achieve historic number one in March. Otherwise it will be a struggle
At the start of 2021 they should re start the 52 week ATP tour otherwise just like Novak has done, players will be missing tournaments because they already have the maximum points there
Well players have been doing that since tennis resumed but the only tournaments that may be effected by changing it to March 2021 would probably be AO and dubai/acapulco
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum yeah I understand that but play should resume as normal since tournaments know how to protect the players etc now
When's Djokovic's first match in vienna ?
Next Tuesday or Wednesday.
Whoever he is playing, I’m rooting for the other guy 😂
@@goldwolf0606 haters usually think like you do.
@@mail2vw guilty as charged 😂
Thanks for explaining the weird temporary point system. I knew Rafa still had an outside chance to end number one because it says so on the ATP website but it didn’t make sense to me he could but not Thiem because I knew Thiem has had a better 2020 by points. Now it is clear.
Clay season is over STFU Rafa squirrel 😂😂😂he will never finish number 1in 2020,no chance.dream on
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Glad the video made sense! :)
@@goldwolf0606 is my fellow doctor. It would be nice to work with him in the same hospital. After a few elevator rides he would become Nole fan number one for sure 😉
@@veljkoterzic3513 😂 in your dreams. You would become GOATdal fan!
i think you forgot that Federer not gonna play, so Rublev and Schwrtzman are both gonna play in London for now, so 9th position on atp list is a place for which they fight for.
Yep I did mention that in the video :)
Rankings will be frozen until March. Reasons: One, Djokovic has mentioned it in interviews. Second, if you see “drop date” for ranking points for Aus Open and Dubai in Djokovic’s rankings breakdown page on ATP site, you will see it is 2022. That means the rankings are frozen. You can check for other players as well for tournaments in Jan and Feb and early March.
Djokovic has said in vienna interview that the corona ranking is extended till march 2021. If djokovic wins vienna,does it guarantee 310 weeks at no 1?
Not yet. Depends on Nadal's performance in Paris, London and AO. But if Djokovic makes the final in London he locks the number 1 position till March for sure.
Have you got a link to this interview? And a win in Vienna doesn't guarantee 310
See at 11 min.
ruclips.net/video/TtGxjRjGzAE/видео.html
Best chance ever for Nadal to win Paris and the end of year event given his freshness....
.....as for end of year #1, I think it should be based on the new "elongated" rating system.
But to qualify for the End of Year special event, I think it should only be on 2020 results. As such, 2019 End of Year results wouldn't be taken away but one has the chance to improve if they actually qualify again in their own right i.e. Medvedev wouldn't likely be playing given his average 2020.
Agreed about this being Rafas best chance to win Paris and London.. And haha thank you for using my makeshift word to describe it :').. I like your idea.. It would be good to reward 2020s brave performers with a spot in London..
The clowns on the Tennis Channel claim Djokovic has to win Vienna to secure #1
Djokovic will finish year end no.1 for the 6th time even if he skips Vienna..
I don't see Rafa winning bercy and winning all round Robin matches in London
Rafa has confirmed that he will play paris and the world tour finals
March 2021 most n1 weeks, 2022 surpas fed for gs, and real battle begins with rafa for goat :)
From me is 199 likes to you Tahmid
Awesome haha thank you!
In a nut shell, Nole can secure the YE1 ranking by reaching the QF of Vienna.
Which he has.
If they don’t extend froze until Mitch 8,2021 that would be obvious against Novak Djokovic while he defend points and Nadal and Thime don’t if im Novak Djokovic I would not agree otherwise and I would call all media and tell them this is prove off conspiracy against NOVAK Djokovic
I don't think Novak will come out and say that lol
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum I know, it but someone else would: Novak would not agree.
The main reason I think Novak playing the Vienna is because he has nothing to gain at AO and rafa can earn more point cause he just earn 360 points there last year. But that 2000 point margin is still high, it will come down to how Nadal Perform at Paris & London if he can get extra 500-1000 than Novak it will be interesting next year at AO.
All the records will be rewritten by Djokovic and Nadal. Nadals next GS win eliminates Federers GS lead. When Djokovic beats 310 weeks at #1, eliminates Federer. Masters 1000, Federer not even 30 wins as Rafa and Djokovic. Because there are 3, the 3rd will be irrelevant.
Djokovic, Nadal, xxxxxxxx. Kids at tennis academy celebrate Djokovic not Federer(Tennis Channel quote) The player of the decade, Djokovlc(Tennis Channel) and it wasn't even close. Federer played 6 more years yet his records are falling already?
Djokovic was the third wheel for 15 years. Federer will be for the rest of time. Not a bad deal for Djokovic.
brij Mehta there is only 1 masters difference between Nadal and Novak D ,ND has 36
Indeed.. Can be levelled again in Paris
Rafa wants to win paris masters because nole is not playing... this is his best opportunity to win the title that he has never won.
Thats the only way i am seeing it... or else i see no point in him skipping US open and then now... playing PARIS !!! 🤔
Coronavirus is getting higher and higher, I wouldn't guarantee Nadal will play in Paris master
May be Nadal wants Most Masters Record also for himself... After Djokovic snatched it away from him after Winning Rome!!
@@brijmehta9421 but the humble one claims he doesn’t compete for records 🙄
@@mail2vw If some one says they aren't playing for Records or History..
They are lying to themselves and to millions of other!!
Why do you think All Three have dominated the game for Two decades combined..
It's because all three wants a big piece of history and some major chunk of Records!! That's their driving force..
@@brijmehta9421 one of them is honest
Technically Thiem could earn another 3000 points in actual points earned in 2020 and have a mathematical chance of passing Novak if that’s what was being counted.
No he cannot, he is defending champion of Vienna, Round 2 of Paris and Runner up in London from 2019. Therefore he can only add a maximum of 1610 more points to his current total and so has no mathematical chance of overtaking Novak.. I hope this clears it up my friend :)
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum Hi Tahmid. Sorry, I didn’t make my point clear enough. If they were only counting points earned in 2020, which they are not, Thiem could still pass Djokovic. You have the points total listed. 6365 to 3725. If Thiem won Vienna, Paris and London without a loss, he would be at 6,725 points in a normal year. You said that Novak already has clinched that if it would have been counted that way, which it’s not.
99.99% #1 secured by Novaj
Djoković king tenisa 👌💪👍💗
Not official but here is where I found it: www.en24.news/2020/10/this-will-be-the-changes-in-the-atp-ranking-for-2021.html
Thank yiu for sharing!
Gold Wolf very droll
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Djokovic has officially secured his Year End no.1 by beating Ćoric as Nadal has rejected a wildcard entry at Sofia Open.
This article explains:
www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-can-rafael-nadal-snatch-year-end-no-1-ranking-novak-djokovic-a-look-scenarios
You piss me off when you put djokovic in the title/ thumbnail but then talk about Rafa !!!!
Apologies but I do talk about the big 3 together
Tamid u are talking like crap I had to say.
Was there enough tournments to play in 2020 to have a year end number 1.
Was there a fair distribution of surface and tournment to have a year end no 1.
Only one clay tournment and rest all hard and indoors cant u see how big a advantage this is for players who prefer hard court.
This year the Year end no 1 has no value
This isn't gold wolf why you pretending to be him lol
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum iam gold wolf iam not pretending
@@chocosquirrel3319 LOL if you say so but I know the real one
@@TahmidSalehTennisForum trust me iam gold wolf. Cant u see my profile pic
777 GOD novak us wisdom 7777
Rafa's integrity these days is questionable.. not sure if thats because his gr8 uncle toni is missing in his camp but... i see quite a few misses from rafa s camp.
Citing health risks to him and his team, he missed USO and then even when cases were increasing, he participated in FRENCH OPEN... AND now with cases in FRANCE literally at its all time high.. with appr 40k cases per day, he still prefers to participate in a masters event !!!! 🤔🙄🤨
I know there is a lil but of history attached to it but.... i smell hypocrisy !!! Anybody feels the same way or is it just me.... overthinking ?
Nole and rafans!?? Comments??
Corona story was a BS from the start. In Rafa's case and otherwise.
@@mikeldubois6084 ok.. i got it now... it was real and relevant till USO... in rafa s case... and now suddenly, its proven to be BS.. in rafa s case.. so is he opting to participate in paris regardless !!?? If thats ur point, Thanks for enlightening m8 !!
@@guruk Nadal's been navigating tennis seasons based on his surface preferences for years on end, without ever having to admit as much. There's usually been a convenient injury as an excuse to skip the indoor part of the season. This year the excuse's been the pandemic.
Nadal most probably skipped USO cause his team speculated that it would be too hard to play two Grand Slams and a clay warm-up in Rome within a span of a month and a half. And they were proven right - just look at what happened with Djokovic and Thiem who were simply too spent towards the end of RG. The icing on the cake was the fact that Nadal didn't lose any points by not defending his USO title.
I've heard nothing about Nadal withdrawing from Paris, so I'll have to assume that he's still playing. Don't worry, he'll just put on his shield of invincibility that he normally uses in Paris (you know, on that other tournament) so the germs can't get to him. P-and?-emic
@@mikeldubois6084 yes absolutely correct !!! 👍
@@guruk Nadal's a genuinely nice guy, but he and his team are also every bit PR-savy as Federer is.
the reason why novak is not considered in the same league as ROGER AND RAFA.. because of his selfishness... he is always running after numbers and records rather than pure love and passion for the game.. which is the thing of utmost importance for FEDAL.. No matter how many slams he wins or how many year end no.1 or weeks at no.1 .he will never be the ambassador of tennis ..the way FEDAL are...
nikhil vaibhav....and you fedal fans decide it or what .... you are pretty rude and conceited. GO AND keep inventing new invented properties. I SWEAR YOU FEDAL FANS life in a fantasy world; EVERYTIME when djokovic win a grandslam or break a new record, the fedal fans or the fedal media come with some nonsense topic what has nothing to do with this situation. YOUR BAD LOSERS ... you have to learn to lose ...Djokovic is a great role model and a great ambassador for tennis sport
@@travisbickle5279 I agree totally. They're all running after numbers and all love the game. They're all rich enough to retire if they want to but they don't. ..."not in the same league..."?What a load of twaddle!:) True he doesn't come from the privileged background that the other two did, he grew up under bombs in bomb shelters, but he more than makes up for his early disadvantages.
Haha seriously? Why is it that Federer is still playing at age 40!! Don't think it's love for the tennis...
Think it has to two with two other players about to start breaking his records....
You can tell your self it's the love of the game. God I hope djo/rafa play until they are 40 as well for the love of the game as Mr Federer. The media definitely has had an effect on people such as your self believing all the narratives that they report on that hateful serbian guy. They should get a raise seems like it's working.