I felt a bit almost stressed in keeping up with all releases of all these great labels. It resulted in my general love for cinema suffering. I started to cut down on it heavily, but also catch myself diving back in when f.e. I see a bunch of cool releases by radiance, eureka in a short time. I really gotta tell myself that a film might still be as great when i „just“ get a standard version, not the prime collector’s deluxe of said film. Plus: i realized f.e. That there will always be an even greater release on the horizon - prime example i was so delighted as i got the scarlet box of hellraiser and felt almost let down when the gorgeous 4k came out (that i did not buy)
You wait until you have kids in the mix . You definitely won’t keep up … but it’s only for a limited time . I’ll get back to my favourite hobby soon enough. You do a good job Elliot , you are very articulate , so don’t put yourself down on that front . Just watch the films you are interested in , there are 100’s of RUclipsrs reviewing the mainstream . Take care buddy
As soon as you start collecting films out of peer pressure or to impress people, you're wasting time, money, and will reach burnout way quicker. Also, opinions on movies shouldn't matter. I hate the prequels, but the most I'd do is disagree and move on with my life (especially with online reviews). I guess it's a consequence of people being terminally online and/or overestimating their own/other people's impact/self worth.
I'm actually happier than ever as a collector. The amount of stuff coming out on 4K is incredible. The only thing that bothers me is not having the time to watch it all, getting a crazy back log and running out of space. I think it helps with only buying movies that you really think you'll watch more than once and not getting overwhelmed with wanting to own everything.
I started collecting two years ago and bought a lot, then I cut down further last year, and now I'm cutting back again. It's almost fine-tuning your hobby in a way, I know through experience what I know I need now, and what I will revisit. There's some deals I got on some boxsets I've got over a year and I've still not watched because I bought on impulse during some great sales.
I was an avid collector of film (mainly DVD's) since 2001. In 2020 I had to get rid of 99 percent of my huge collection of DVD's, and Bluray's. Some of these included very limited edition sets that I will never be able to replace, maybe it sounds stupid, but they were very sentimental to me and most of them I had owned for at least half of my life. These days I watch your videos (and others) with enthusiasm and slight envy, as film is my life and I really miss collecting. To be honest I have only bought about a dozen 4k films in the last 4 years. You make amazing content , and keep me and thousands of others so happy, and for that I salute you.
I've been a collector my whole life. First coins, then comic books, VHS, LASER DISC, DVD, BLU-RAY...there's one common thread throughout. The desire and the "thrill of the hunt" can easily overtake the joy of what it is you're collecting if you let it. If you find yourself realizing that collecting has become a chore, or causes you anxiety - just stop and think about why you started. You can't own EVERYTHING. It's simply not possible. What was it that gave you joy? Focus on that. I know for a lot of film fans, movie collecting started with the love of watching movies, but it very quickly turns into amassing a collection. So many of which never even get watched. WATCH them. That's where the joy is.
Ever since I started collecting films on physical media I was always focused primarily on my favourite films, this way I am able to make sure my collection gets cultivated properly and doesn't essentially bite its own tail. Too much of the good stuff is also bad. I don't try to buy every film that gets a release, I even designed a system I follow to make sure that the right films are in my collection and I sell on the films I don't think are deserving a place on my shelf. All of this allows me to cultivate healthy habits.
Always a champion, Elliot. Hearing this complaint from a lot of people recently myself. It's all about prioritising what you love and watching what you want to watch on your time. Beautifully said.
I’ve seen 1,000 films over the last three years and there’s still a ton to watch on the shelves and more arriving every day or two. It’s time to calm down - all the best
"Do it for yourself" I feel that is the golden rule when it comes to collecting or any hobby really. I'm into collecting both film and books. I don't have all the beautiful popular special editions nor do I have all the latest films in bluray, 4K, etc. And that's completely fine because I'm only interested in hunting down and owning what I love or what I find interesting. Which ultimately prevents burnout since I'm pretty excited with each new addition. My collections are reflections of my personal taste and if I were to chase down everything that was trendy or popular that would leave me with bloated shelves with titles that I don't ultimately care for. You can also apply this to making RUclips videos. I make videos on topics I want to talk about. If people stumble upon it and like it, that's great. But since I made it in the first place out of passion I don't mind if it doesn't get a ton of views. Pursue your hobby with genuine passion, that is unconcerned for other people, and your enjoyment will last longer.
I think there's something to be said about taking breaks. I think it's really good what you say about not comparing yourself. I often find myself feeling jealous, even (unfortunately) hateful at times when i notice someone is able to watch three times as many movies as me. Setting challenges for oneself can alleviate that and even be fun, but only momentarily. Making anything into a game can only be fun for so long. Passion and love should be the driving force, not personal goals/chores, at least when it comes to enjoying something. Even then passion can still wane, so a nice break, a nice refresher is a huge help. Even people on vacation eventually and rather quickly desire to go back home. "Home" in this case being one's passion.
This was something I was experiencing a year ago! I love movies. I love them dearly, and it is my dream to be a filmmaker. Great advice, Elliot! If I could throw mine into the ring, I’d say get new hobbies, even if only for a temporary window of several months. I needed to get a new hobby, and I actually started dancing! It was great. I met friends, had a new activity I didn’t need to be great at but was making progress in. It expanded me socially, and then made watching and discussing cinema more special. I also found being more social, and having more hobbies, lent to making writing screenplays much easier. Give yourself more experiences so you can bring more to the art you consume.
Thank you for speaking out about this. It needs to be said. I usually consume a lot of media but mostly movies. But sometimes it feels like I'm doing it for the wrong reason, just for the sake of having seen it instead of appreciating it. For this year I have been watching other media, like TV shows and documentaries instead. Since I don't really have to watch list on what to watch when it comes to shows, it doesn't feel like when I binge movies. This is true to some extent when it comes to what one decides to spend their money on. For a few years now, I really concentrated on building up my movie collection. But that came with sacrifices, and for this last year, I really cut back and decided to save more, and maybe take a long trip for my vacation instead of just staying home cause I hadn't saved up enough money.
Hey Elliot, I would appreciate more videos on topics about collecting surrounding topics such as this and curating your collection. Great video that creates open debate which is such an under appreciated commodity.
First and foremost, I appreciate the time you put into these videos Elliot. They are certainly different than most other media reviewers and I appreciate the type of films you cover as well. That being said, I am probably twice your age and while in my youth, I burned myself out of collecting music. I think the key word here is "COLLECTING" and if one tries to do that it always leads to not a good outcome. Even though I have been buying movies for over 30 years (from the laserdisc days to now 4K) I still don't own probably more than 400 movies currently. I only buy and keep what has REWATCH VALUE or movies from the handful of my favorite directors. I think there is a huge difference between a Collector and a Movie Lover ... Collectors buy pretty much anything and everything and can rationalize that purchase in their mind whether they really need it or not. Curating things for keeping them forever is the key here. Plus my wallet thanks me.
I think you nailed it here. “Collecting” becomes an obsession and addiction, and as you say - and Elliot says - it leads to a feeling of emptiness. I am a MOVIE LOVER who gets pleasure from owning my favorite films that mean something special to me and have that REWATCH VALUE as you noted. I actually get rid of films that no longer meet that standard. If your collection is based on genuine movie love then it is a special thing, an autobiography of sorts, but if it’s about owning “things” it is a waste of time and money.
@@benskelly8892I totally agree and you said it better than I can. The movie has to mean something to me for me to own it. Do I pick up sometimes a new one I have not seen to give it a shot? I do, if it is cheap enough. But if I am meh about it, I get rid of it. "Collecting" is just organized hoarding.
Burnout is very real and, as you said, applicable in all areas of life. Balance and regulation is so important. And doing things for yourself rather than others... A very strong and relevant message, thanks for sharing!
Man, I needed this video. I very recently upgraded to 4K. Picked up a Panasonic DP-UB820, and an LG OLED C3. Immediately went nuts upgrading a bunch of my existing Blu-rays and also picking up a bunch of 4K titles I would not have bothered owning on HD. This afternoon I looked at my watch pile to find a movie to knock off my list - not watch and enjoy, just get it off the pile like it's a chore - and I just thought, "What the f** am I doing?" I have FIFTY-NINE movies on my watch pile, including box sets (at least two of which I'm kinda dreading), and two TV series I've barely touched. And yet, before I go to bed, I'll have Amazon open on my phone, scrolling through my Blu-ray wish list, thinking about what I could justify buying. I need a break.
You’re not alone my friend! Do what is best for you and your experience. Don’t worry about what other people say about you what you need. Just enjoy the movies you enjoy and curate an awesome collection of movies you love
You're definitely not alone. I thought you wrote about how I am. My watch pile has become huge in the past year or so, and I'm always on different sites on a lookout for sales. It's exhausting, 'cause all of my freetime is pretty much watching films and buying more than I can watch. Thinking of taking a full break from social media, smart phone and film collecting, and just watch what I have. Some would say, that I'm thinking of getting a life, man.
This is just the video for every cinema lover! Firstly, thank you for making this video and sharing your experience. I couldn't agree more to whatever you said. As a psychologist I know how difficult it is to openly share this. Secondly, I could relate to each of your word. Engaging in movie marathons, rating them and comparing it with others, spending excessive time to write long reviews, making tons of movie lists, and watching films even when you don't feel like watching, collecting movies that you don't need...is a burnout. Thirdly, the suggestion and the points that you put forward are really helpful. You literally covered everything in this video. Thank You! ❤
I had an urge to collect everything Criterion and Eureka, a lot of blind buys. Any completist satisfaction was more than outweighed by the annoyance that I owned films I hadn’t really enjoyed or would ever want to watch again. They stood out as blights from my otherwise curated collection. Avoid burnout by only buying what you love, will want to watch again or are near certain you will enjoy it. Saying that blindly discovering something amazing is the best part of the hobby for me, but when it doesn’t work out, I sell, and the good thing about boutique releases is they hold value.
I myself often forget that there is a human being on the other end. I mean... I know that, i knew that always, but you have to always remember, if you know what i mean.
Tyler Durden was right 'the things you own, end up owning you' I took 6 month hiatus from collecting, and just when I thought I was out, the Bruce Lee boxset pulled me back in ;)
Really appreciate you sharing this video, pal. Film collecting burnout truly resonates at this moment. It's oddly cyclical. Anywho, here's my Letterboxd rating for Billy Madison ☆☆☆☆☆
Hi Elliot, thank you for talking about such an important topic. I've been a mostly silent long-time viewer of your videos and really enjoy your content. I've learned about Arrow, Indicator, Second Sight and Radiance through your videos and I'm deeply thankful because these boutique labels are of such high quality and I enjoy the artwork and releases. Ever since I started working 1 1/2 years ago, I've doubled my physical film collection from 450-ish to over 1000 films. To be honest, it has become a bit overwhelming for me, both mentally and financially. I still enjoy watching and buying Blu-Rays. I haven't made the transition to 4K, however I often times feel like missing out on special/limited editions. This year, I limited my buying habits to films I really want to own (Perfect Blue and Funny Games being two examples). However, there are offers popping up here and there that I can't resist. I know I still have to work on that but I feel that I'm on the right path. Thanks again for your wonderful content and expanding my viewing habits.
Not only burnout, but sometimes I look at of these great Blu Rays that I brought recently and think, "Why did I do this? How many times do I think I'm gonna watch this great but utterly depressing movie? But, then again, yesterday I was looking thru my collection and found a copy of Ernest Lubitsch's Design For Living. I completely forgot I had it. I was just in the mood for it, and was more than happy to watch it for the (maybe) 50th time. Hadn't seen it in a minute.
This is exactly where i am now. Collecting while trying to make youtube videos is tough some times. Gald to hear im not the only collector/creator feeling this way. The need to keep up or be the first one to review a disc is overwhelming. I have been trying to cut back what I purchase and choose to make. So it's a process but I'm doing just what you said. I'm trying to go back to just making videos I want to make. Thanks! Great video man.
I felt really burnt out too when I first start collecting Sealed Steelbook Movies. Before, I wanted to collect every single Steelbook available out there & Spent $$$ but then told myself that I need to slowdown and that I can’t have all of them😂after Accumulated thousands of Sealed Steelbooks for about 10yrs+😂🤦🏻♂️Took a break for couple years break from 2020-2023 and shift my interest to Pokemon TCG Sealed, Slab & Singles. Now I Collect both hobbies but now I just collect what I really wanted and enjoy and take away the stress having all mentality👍😉. New Sub here for some reason it recommended me your channel which I really enjoyed 👍
Not gonna lie, because of this channel I became more selective with my collection of physical media. Elliot taught me to stay away from steelbooks and to not worry too much about fomo. I'm just really glad that I learned this at the very beginning of my collecting phase. I probably own 3 films out of 300 that I'm not interested in keeping. And I only started collecting 10 months ago. I own a few steelbooks, this was before Elliott's steelbooks video, and I barely collect any now. Only go for the titles that really interest you!
Not buying steelbooks just because a youtuber doesnt like them anymore is kinda silly. I mean, if YOU like them, go ahead and buy them. Elliot is not your father...
@@GamezGuru1 I should elaborate. 1. Plenty steelbooks come in limited editions so you have to always be on the lookout for them because when they sell, they sell out fast. 2. They don't make steelbooks for every movie that you like. 3. If there's a movie that you like, it's highly likely that it's not available. 4. Best way to get the OOP steelbooks is through third party seller, which is extremely expensive. If I want to get the "No Country For Old Men" steelbook, I'll have to pay $70+ for it. If I want to get the "There Will Be Blood" steelbook I'll have to pay $500+ for it. Why spend $1,000 for 8 steelbooks when I can get 50 standard edition blu-rays for the same price.
I started collecting movies on vhs in 1977 when dvd came out i bought most of my vhs movies on dvd.Blu rays made me lose intrest in collecting but i still bought some of my favorites.I'm 61 now and 4K has been the final straw i stopped buying movies. Still watch old movies on you tube though.
Very well-said, Elliot!! I definitely went through a phase where I was concerned about giving a “good” movie a low-star rating, and eventually I realized I wasn’t being true to myself. Appreciate hearing your confidence in being true to your feelings on a film! Also I can totally relate to burnout. I’ve been in the situation of trying to crank out x amount of videos at certain times, and eventually it just got tiring to me! It wasn’t fun anymore. Though I don’t post as frequently as I do, I at least like anything I post, which to me is so much more important.
I can concur with the sense of burn out. I love all things movie and collect, read and watch. But work/life balance and demands on time and energy and money have never been so great. Clean and tidy a room each day (moving around the house to keep on top of it), sort a cupboard, tidy a shelf, 10000 steps, tidy 1-metre of border in the garden, read a magazine article and watch a movie etc. My 'to watch' pile has never been so high and with excellent boxes of AK, Bergman, Wenders, Hitchcock, Walter Hill and soon Kim Novak to work through I need not buy any new items in 2024 ... but I will. Need more hours, otherwise something is going to break.
This is why I stopped buying 4K titles for a while. I have way too many movies still in the shrink wrap unopened but no time to watch them. I'm not a teenager anymore with all that free time. Also, it's getting quite expensive to keep upgrading to 4K when you already own it on Blu-ray.
Very good constructive advice about a subject that relates to other types of burnout in life. I have learned to hold back on FOMO and be more selective in my physical media film collecting hobby and just enjoy what I own and make sure I re-watch while buying the odd film or TV series instead of amassing piles of discs just to satiate the collecting side of things.
I realised recently its only the " now" that's exciting - when I look at all the films that I lovingly collected but haven't played in years ...some I now know I never will....how time alters you're perception..
Absolutely. The fear of missing out seems to fade when what's new is now old. Sometimes taking a step back and assessing whether you need to buy something is all it takes to make a good decision. Thanks for watching and for the great comment!
My day job is working as a specialist in a Canadian hospital, burnout is common. Watching movies is my escape and source of relaxation. Keep up the great work, your videos are informative and well presented. I buy videos especially Criterion but I am selective.
I feel like if you’re expecting to have your life changed every week by a film, it’s sort of a paradox. You should live a little of life in between these great movie experiences imho
I know exactly what you are talking about. I have been buying up physical media and spending so much money ( I won't even reveal how much but it is concerning). I am forcing myself to go out in nature, read on my porch while listening to music and put brakes on my collecting. However, it has been easy as I have bought so many criterion movies in the recent past and I am letting them just sit on my shelf for now. I need to just to pull back. By the way, you have an excellent speaking voice. If you wanted a second career, I could envision you as a narrator like Attenborough.
Very well said! As someone who is disabled and on a very limited income, I have no choice but to be selective what I buy. I have those films I need to own the best version of on disc so I make a list and try to pick them up when I can. There are movies I’d like to see and own but if it’s not at the top of my list I I’ll most likely pass on it. Not caring what others think about what you like or dislike is a good thing. I happen to love the Star Wars prequels and have from day one. As far as RUclips, I make videos at my pace because physically and mentally I wouldn’t be able to keep up. Keep up the great work!
I saw a time management video in the 1970s that impressed me. At work, create three piles from your inbox: A, B, and C. Complete the A tasks immediately. Complete the B tasks after you've completed the A tasks. After a certain period of time, toss the C task pile if you never got around to it. I mostly prioritize what I watch that way and am comfortable with it. I started buying DVDs in 1997 and I haven't watched a bunch of them. I'm glad I own them but, unlike the C pile, I won't toss or sell them. I'm a collector and derive a lot of satisfaction out of just knowing I could watch them if I ever have the time. I'm retired and still don't have the time to watch all that I own. I stream a lot and also go to movie theaters. But, with hundreds of unwatched movies I own (out of thousands), I've come to accept that I may never watch them.
100% do it for yourself, a lot of times the films that everyone says I am supposed to watch and like I end up not really liking. So now I just watch a film if it legitimately interests me.
I hear you Elliot. I am feeling exactly the same way. So much great stuff came out, has just come out, and will be coming out soon that I was getting totally stressed out. I forgot about how much I enjoy just watching the film. I put my purchases on hold for now and said you know what who cares if it’s 4k, blu ray, dvd or streaming. I just want to enjoy movies again
Excellent video brother. I have experienced this in so so many things in my life. I quit being a musician due to this. I was really into photography for years and honestly posting on Instagram all the time burned me out as I felt I needed to get better and no lo get enjoyed it. This recently hit me with vinyl collecting, which I had done since I was a teenager(I'm in my early fifties). I hated posting everything after awhile and rarely do now. I still collect vinyl , movies and books. Books are different as I simply can't read a whole book as quickly. And books are really rarely read by people so there isn't as much of a need or want to post. Overall, this video really hits home and at my age I realize there will never be enough time for everything so I rarely post on Insta anymore, quit almost all Facebook groups etc. I just don't care about any of that any longer. Anyhow, this really resonated with me.
Great video. For me I don’t need every release but buying a movie and bringing it home reminds me of being a kid and time with my dad, better times, so I do it a lot. Same outcome really lots of movies I don’t need. For a long time these dvds were replacement friends. I’m glad I’ve seen what I’m doing and I’ve been able to change my collecting habits. Thanks for the video.
I’m currently a burnt out psychiatrist who makes niche RUclips videos about records as a cheaper more effective and fun alternative to therapy! There is a fairly simple concept I picked up used in child psychiatry/psychotherapy for new parents who usually due to issues around their own childhood end up in a terrible mental state striving to be the perfect parent; as obviously that is impossible. Therapy is aimed at looking at what the individual parent considers as “good enough” and the therapist uses this concept to reduce shame and negotiate more realistic achievable targets. I find I can usefully apply this concept to collecting especially when it comes to areas such as hifi kit and the curse of upgraditis! Another antidote I find helpful is ironically having a secondary interest which for me is Blu-ray/4k which is lovely because it is less intense and I can be much more selective and happy to not buy everything I like. From a RUclips perspective I find Heath from cereal at midnight and Scott from the pressing matters set a good example making occasional videos that will not get large viewing figures but about something they absolutely love is the sane sustainable way forward. Anyway I’m going to shut up now!
Maybe movies are a winter hobby, it's summer now, get a bike or hiking boots or a tennis racket or a football etc. Summer only lasts a few months, get outside.
I realised about 7 years ago with my collection, that I was just collecting, buying anything that was cheap. I sold off around 500 films and then started curating the collection. While I now don't have 'everything', everything I do have I love. Buy what you enjoy, don't buy it because you feel you have to.
Elliot, thanks for the video on this important topic. I try to approach my physical media collection as I would a record collection or bookshelf. I do in some cases try to collect as many films as I can by a particular director, but mostly I want to have a collection that, if someone is at my house looking at it, tells them something about who I am and the films I love. At the beginning of this year, I realized I have so many films on the shelf I haven’t even watched yet, I decided to severely curb my buying for a while.
Great video and important topic for discussion. I don't get burnt out from watching (I don't get to watch enough for my liking) but definitely collecting and buying burnout which at times feels compulsive, but I mostly buy things I'm truly interested in. I'm not in the business of collecting entire labels etc, because as you say you can't like it all, so what is the purpose of owning it all? Cheers pal 👍
I'm a casual collector. If it's a movie i have memories of, or I'm very interested in seeing, and if the 4k transfer is good, I'll buy it. Only problem they're very expensive, and i see myself awaiting sales. Recently i got the star trek movie collection and oppenheimer on a sale. However, i got the james cameron movies preordered, and fist of legend releasing in may, only cos I've got a 20% discount voucher from HMV... yeah pretty interesting time to be a movie collector. I do enjoy your channel, thanks for these provoking discussions.
Ever since I started collecting in March 2008, I decided to enjoy the process. I have experienced burnout a few times, but as soon as I see it coming, I just stop before it "burns" me. I mean, I stop collecting and stop watching movies for a few weeks or a couple of months until I feel like doing it again. I do compare myself with others sometimes, but in the end, I always realize that it's useless. Having a certain movie does not define who I am. I AM NOT MY COLLECTION. I AM NOT MY HOBBY. That's only a tiny little part of who I am. Don't let other people dictate how you spend your money and your valuable time! This is supposed to be fun for each of us.
I collected 4,500 movies in four years, I haven’t seen about half of them. This year I’ve only bought a couple of new movies and no new releases. But I’ve watched 75 movies so far since new years, I seem to be in my movie enjoying phase and I feel no urge to buy anything right now.
I go through spells. Can consistently watch one or two films a day for weeks then suddenly just not feel like it for a week or two or sometimes even falls into a period where I'll watch only three or four films over a couple of months. I don't have the issue when it comes to buying physical-media though because I don't buy too excessively.
May I recommend a docu on film collector/preserver Henri Langlois. You as a collector reflect his spirit , as do others who educate themselves about film and form a core of historian /enthusiasts , serving as a sort of old guard ,against time swallowing these treasures away. I have an enormous collection , and really enjoy popping in a disc and scanning the film and seeing my fav parts (like an old friend) , and 10-15 min. later ,I do the same with another ,and so on. A night could be spent clipping and going from mood to mood , with a smorgasboard effect. Nice to see young people with passion for works of art in your homes!
I’ve experienced it with over 30+ years of collecting, and increasingly add more “rules” to limit what I buy on physical. I use streaming as a rental to aid this, and watch channels such as yours and Instagram to share in the enjoyment of physical media over owning everything.
I think it’s important to buy and enjoy stuff you like. One of the problems of being a collector is that you sometimes feel compelled to buy stuff just because it is on a particular label or buy another movie because it is a much better version of a film. I think it is important sometimes to take a couple of days before you order something because the sudden rush of excitement can fade quickly. I was tempted to buy the Arrow version of Barbarella because it looks like such a great set. I don’t think the actual film is very good but I worried about missing out on a great box set. Now I am glad I didn’t spend money on it. Other times I end up regretting not buying something and end up having to buy it second hand. This happened to me with the Arrow Phantasm box set. I eventually bought it second hand but there was no harm done as I was able to buy it at a price that was higher than when it was released but still not extortionately priced. I really enjoyed it and perhaps all the more because I waited until I decided that I really wanted it. So, my advice is to take time and think. 48 hours later do you still feel excited about the title you think you want?If you do then it could be a good purchase. If not, save your money.
Don't have collecting burnout, but I definitely did have movie watching fatigue. had been watching a movie almost every day for a month. So I had to take a break until the time I really felt like watching something again.
I'm a screener for a film festival and every year, after six months of festival screening and the films I see at the festival, I'm completely exhausted by it. I just want to shut off the screening part of my brain and watch something dumb where stuff blows up real good. So I get this even if I don't obsessively pursue the latest shiny.
I recently faced a similar burnout and really appreciate you taking the time to share this, Elliot. I tried to do the 365 things/year things on Letterboxd last year and ran out of steam during October/November. Here's what I learned from that - I felt like I was pressured, by partaking in something like Hooptober (the horror challenge) to watch a bunch of stuff I didn't really like. And then it becomes a chore, becomes feeling like it's work. And I already watch movies for work! So, I just have to be honest that it's okay to ditch the directors I don't enjoy or whatever the latest Radiance release is to just rewatch, like, Raiders of the Lost Ark yet again. I think the biggest challenge here is that any social display of one's viewing/purchasing habits (LB, RUclips) runs the risk of catering to the way the herd is going. Which is often dictated by what's been released on physical media recently. And I'm not - and you're not - an employee of those companies, so why do it? I've been a long-time subscriber and one of my favorite videos from a while back was when you were talking about how you and your wife binged a bunch of Hitchcock over the holidays. I'd love to see more videos from you that share with us your passions for film besides the collecting side of things - less about providing us reviews/consumer product information, and more about you and what you enjoy. After all, that's what RUclips should be, a way for people to connect over shared interests.
Great video! I normally buy 4k blu ray that I’d watch more than once. I don’t buy because other people are buying them. If it’s a movie I just wanna see once or don’t really care of, I don’t mind watching them if available on Netflix or Amazon or any other streaming platform.
A lot of this sounds like addictive personality traits; for most people that will be internalised, but for content creators here there can perhaps sometimes be an element of externalised addiction appearing. Just a few days ago I watched a video where the creator talked about how he had determined to watch all the Masters of Cinema releases which he hadn't yet got round to (quite a lot of them!). In addition to doing this he decided to make videos talking about his set task, but they weren't to be similar to how Elliot goes about talking about films he's watched; instead they would be much more in depth and include ripped clips from the discs. Two months in and he's already feeling overwhelmed by the rod he's made for his own back, and was asking his viewers whether he should carry on or reduce the scope of the planned videos. This is precisely what Elliot meant when he talked about doing things for yourself and not for others. The same sense of making a rod for his own back is in the story of the chap who decided he would watch 365 movies this year. You need a break from anything sometimes, even the stuff you enjoy. A sense of moderation is required. Deciding to collect the entire output of this or that boutique label is fine if you get in on the ground floor (as I have with Radiance) or if that imprint only releases moderate numbers of discs during a year (an example would be the BFI flipside strand, which I also collect, but have a fair few older releases to buy still), but if there already exist possibly hundreds of discs when you start, you're onto a hiding for nothing unless you win the lottery! Better to set personal goals with limits, say collect the output of a studio you like (preferably defunct so there's a finite number of films on the list) such as Hammer, or the work of a particular director, or maybe films within a certain group, like 'Ealing Comedies' or 'Video Nasties'. That way you can get the thrill without it becoming a chore.
Currently im experiencing burnout, not collecting but watching movies. Last year I managed to watch so many films, there were multiple months where I was watching 2 films a day, I enjoyed it. But now, I just feel like I can't be bothered to watch films and even if I do it's a comedy or something light hearted and I don't feel like watching something from my collection of boutique labels.
So many collect and forget its the movie that is the most important, what's it matter if it's 4k and that black levels look better, what's it matter if its got extra material tat inside. I actually wonder how many are actually a real movie fan ? I'd say many are just a hoarding collector who actually doesn't watch the majority of what that own. Its their money. Do what you want with it, but they don't fool me.
Great video about collecting thanks for posting , I've been collecting vinyl since 2017 I love music but the first couple of years I sickened my self and my wallet. So how I collect nowadays is I buy my records October through to March because that's the month's I spend most of my time in the house (Winter) the rest of the year I try to spend as much time out doors even if it's just in the garden which my bluetooth speaker is used and my records don't get spun, my point is you don't have to collect 12 months of the year to still enjoy collecting, and if there's a few releases that come out during the summer months when I don't buy vinyl they are always still available come October when I start my collecting again
Since partner bought fab new XGIMI Pro Ultra dual light source 4K projector and we can view so much more! Love projection and cannot/ will not view anyhting significantly on TV! I could chat loads more as this subject is very much part of me! Cheers Chum! ❤
I personally restrict myself to movies I like. There are many films I love that are not on the 4k blu ray format yet like the first 20 entries in the James Bond series, Airplane!, Shanghai Noon, and Zoolander.
I would like to have new releases on day one, but if circumstances wont' allow I'll get them later. Responsabilities comes always first, as a father, husband, worker (health care provider). But I do get involved in other activities like getting off the couch and doing regular excercise, sharing quality time with my relatives and family, and enjoying outdoor activities from time to time. Get anothe mind set, get in shape and seek a healthy living lifestyle.
I just don't seem to have the time, energy or attention span to devote to film watching anymore and I certainly don't have the income for collecting anything, which saddens me immensely.
You seem like a more thoughtful person than your average moviegoer. This means you enjoy reflecting on your viewing experience. But based on your programs and the RUclips format, it has to be hard to keep up with everything. I am at the age where l have a 'one-reel' test. If a film can't catch my interest within the first reel, l drop it. That may sound harsh, but rare is the film that can't lay it all out in 20 minutes. In contrast, if l really dig a movie, l might spend a week on it, watching the commentary tracks, watching the film without sound, watching the extra features, etc. l really make it worth my while and grab every ounce of entertainment as possible from a larger set. People aren't constructed to consume entertainment endlessly. Movies deserve better than that, especially the unique and talented filmmakers. I wouldn't care if you only covered one release a week because it makes the discussion worthwhile and is a great use of your time. If people want a star system, they can get it elsewhere. Keep up the good work, whatever you decide!
I never really burn out I just get a little bored and take a break. Then I come back and it's more interesting because there are things I missed and can catch up on
The youtube algorithm that wants and demands high quality videos each and every 30 minutes ... I think I have given up on that for my own channels. Anyway, I love watching your videos and finding out about different blu-rays / 4Ks but I certainly don't think I must buy them all, there is just not time in the day to watch them all or read every comic or watch every YT video of interest or every book or listen to every record or song and also actually get out and exercise and meet friends and live a life. Only buy the blu-rays that interest me, certainly not aiming to get most of them as the house would just explode. No interest in worrying about what others have (or perhaps don't have), comparison is a waste of time as it is in exercise classes or in singing or elsewhere in life.
That's good advice! Only I've always done everything as you said. 1 - I only like very particular genres and actors, and watch and buy accordingly. 2 - Never ever thought of collecting every edition from any collection, series, or label, because of my particular tastes and knowing I won't like most of it. 3 - Also rate most titles on Letterboxd 3.5 to 5 stars, because if I didn't absolutely hate it, there's no reason to rate lower. All of the stuff I decide to watch are based on my liking already anyway, and knowing myself I rarely get disappointed. Yes the overall quality deteriorated since the 90s and even 00s, but still it's not often I come across truly awful movies. P.S. I did buy all 8 of the Vault line-up so far, but not sure it'll continue. That's the only 'complete up to now' series of releases I have. 😂
Not burn out, guilt. If I were young and single I would not do want I do now. When you are young you need to have a life. Watching endless movies is not healthy. It's a race no one else gives a shit. You are just conning yourself that this matters. I am now 50 and I am comfortable watching a lot of films or TV, playing games and reading books. I just collect my favourites. Burnout is very common in all walks of life. Just take a break and do something else. If it's a case of no money get healthy by going for walks and listening to music or podcasts. Remember all of this is meaningless if it's not enjoyable.
I love the content you talk about may be change your format of topics it doesn't have to be about what you've purchased new for your collection a new theme to talk about take a step back from the new stuff catch a breath
Here's the thing: how many movies in your collection are you actually going to watch more than 1-2 times in your life? Probably not that many. I realised this when I looked at my collection (about 200 movies). Yes, they are great movies, and I'm glad I have them, but realistically, I doubt I will actually sit down and watch them. If I HAD TO get rid of my movies for some reason, I would keep maybe 20 of them, and not cry that I lost the rest. But maybe that's just me.
I only buy physicals of films I really enjoyed and know I'll watch again with the only actual full collections being all films from a certain filmmaker. The benefit of that is that I can happily buy the best versions without worrying about wasting my money. I also log everything on letterboxd and quickly learned I don't need to add written logs to EVERY film. Like you, I just gut rate it. I don't care about others opinions on that. Just enjoy the hobby, simple as
My collection has slowed down massively I just don't have the space I'm very selective about which titles I'm buying now. my spending went out of control trying to keep up and I didn't like the person I was becoming and was enjoyable anymore. some channels are just how much free stuff I can scrounge and are losing focus on what their channels are supposed to be about in the first place.
If you ever want to chat about your own experiences, feel free to leave a comment here or DM me @elliotcoenfilms
We love you, thank you for doing these videos and talking about these things, thank you very much.
I felt a bit almost stressed in keeping up with all releases of all these great labels. It resulted in my general love for cinema suffering.
I started to cut down on it heavily, but also catch myself diving back in when f.e. I see a bunch of cool releases by radiance, eureka in a short time.
I really gotta tell myself that a film might still be as great when i „just“ get a standard version, not the prime collector’s deluxe of said film.
Plus: i realized f.e. That there will always be an even greater release on the horizon - prime example i was so delighted as i got the scarlet box of hellraiser and felt almost let down when the gorgeous 4k came out (that i did not buy)
You wait until you have kids in the mix . You definitely won’t keep up … but it’s only for a limited time . I’ll get back to my favourite hobby soon enough. You do a good job Elliot , you are very articulate , so don’t put yourself down on that front . Just watch the films you are interested in , there are 100’s of RUclipsrs reviewing the mainstream . Take care buddy
As soon as you start collecting films out of peer pressure or to impress people, you're wasting time, money, and will reach burnout way quicker.
Also, opinions on movies shouldn't matter. I hate the prequels, but the most I'd do is disagree and move on with my life (especially with online reviews). I guess it's a consequence of people being terminally online and/or overestimating their own/other people's impact/self worth.
I'm actually happier than ever as a collector. The amount of stuff coming out on 4K is incredible. The only thing that bothers me is not having the time to watch it all, getting a crazy back log and running out of space. I think it helps with only buying movies that you really think you'll watch more than once and not getting overwhelmed with wanting to own everything.
I started collecting two years ago and bought a lot, then I cut down further last year, and now I'm cutting back again. It's almost fine-tuning your hobby in a way, I know through experience what I know I need now, and what I will revisit. There's some deals I got on some boxsets I've got over a year and I've still not watched because I bought on impulse during some great sales.
I was an avid collector of film (mainly DVD's) since 2001. In 2020 I had to get rid of 99 percent of my huge collection of DVD's, and Bluray's. Some of these included very limited edition sets that I will never be able to replace, maybe it sounds stupid, but they were very sentimental to me and most of them I had owned for at least half of my life. These days I watch your videos (and others) with enthusiasm and slight envy, as film is my life and I really miss collecting. To be honest I have only bought about a dozen 4k films in the last 4 years. You make amazing content , and keep me and thousands of others so happy, and for that I salute you.
I've been a collector my whole life. First coins, then comic books, VHS, LASER DISC, DVD, BLU-RAY...there's one common thread throughout. The desire and the "thrill of the hunt" can easily overtake the joy of what it is you're collecting if you let it. If you find yourself realizing that collecting has become a chore, or causes you anxiety - just stop and think about why you started. You can't own EVERYTHING. It's simply not possible. What was it that gave you joy? Focus on that. I know for a lot of film fans, movie collecting started with the love of watching movies, but it very quickly turns into amassing a collection. So many of which never even get watched. WATCH them. That's where the joy is.
Ever since I started collecting films on physical media I was always focused primarily on my favourite films, this way I am able to make sure my collection gets cultivated properly and doesn't essentially bite its own tail. Too much of the good stuff is also bad. I don't try to buy every film that gets a release, I even designed a system I follow to make sure that the right films are in my collection and I sell on the films I don't think are deserving a place on my shelf. All of this allows me to cultivate healthy habits.
Always a champion, Elliot. Hearing this complaint from a lot of people recently myself. It's all about prioritising what you love and watching what you want to watch on your time. Beautifully said.
I’ve seen 1,000 films over the last three years and there’s still a ton to watch on the shelves and more arriving every day or two. It’s time to calm down - all the best
Probably one of your best and most important videos because it applies to so many areas in life. Thank you and greetings from Germany
"Do it for yourself" I feel that is the golden rule when it comes to collecting or any hobby really. I'm into collecting both film and books. I don't have all the beautiful popular special editions nor do I have all the latest films in bluray, 4K, etc. And that's completely fine because I'm only interested in hunting down and owning what I love or what I find interesting. Which ultimately prevents burnout since I'm pretty excited with each new addition. My collections are reflections of my personal taste and if I were to chase down everything that was trendy or popular that would leave me with bloated shelves with titles that I don't ultimately care for.
You can also apply this to making RUclips videos. I make videos on topics I want to talk about. If people stumble upon it and like it, that's great. But since I made it in the first place out of passion I don't mind if it doesn't get a ton of views. Pursue your hobby with genuine passion, that is unconcerned for other people, and your enjoyment will last longer.
👏 👏👏👏👏👏 thank you for sharing! This is real stuff that we should talk about more as a community.
I think it’s important to check in on our habits every now and then. Thanks for watching, Jeff 🙏
I think there's something to be said about taking breaks.
I think it's really good what you say about not comparing yourself. I often find myself feeling jealous, even (unfortunately) hateful at times when i notice someone is able to watch three times as many movies as me.
Setting challenges for oneself can alleviate that and even be fun, but only momentarily. Making anything into a game can only be fun for so long. Passion and love should be the driving force, not personal goals/chores, at least when it comes to enjoying something.
Even then passion can still wane, so a nice break, a nice refresher is a huge help. Even people on vacation eventually and rather quickly desire to go back home. "Home" in this case being one's passion.
This was something I was experiencing a year ago! I love movies. I love them dearly, and it is my dream to be a filmmaker.
Great advice, Elliot! If I could throw mine into the ring, I’d say get new hobbies, even if only for a temporary window of several months. I needed to get a new hobby, and I actually started dancing! It was great. I met friends, had a new activity I didn’t need to be great at but was making progress in. It expanded me socially, and then made watching and discussing cinema more special. I also found being more social, and having more hobbies, lent to making writing screenplays much easier.
Give yourself more experiences so you can bring more to the art you consume.
Thank you for speaking out about this. It needs to be said. I usually consume a lot of media but mostly movies. But sometimes it feels like I'm doing it for the wrong reason, just for the sake of having seen it instead of appreciating it.
For this year I have been watching other media, like TV shows and documentaries instead. Since I don't really have to watch list on what to watch when it comes to shows, it doesn't feel like when I binge movies.
This is true to some extent when it comes to what one decides to spend their money on.
For a few years now, I really concentrated on building up my movie collection.
But that came with sacrifices, and for this last year, I really cut back and decided to save more, and maybe take a long trip for my vacation instead of just staying home cause I hadn't saved up enough money.
Only collect what you love and rewatch. Curate your collection. Thats the way to keep your hobby alive.
This is why I could never involve movies or video games with how I make a living. I appreciate your work, so thanks.
Hey Elliot, I would appreciate more videos on topics about collecting surrounding topics such as this and curating your collection. Great video that creates open debate which is such an under appreciated commodity.
Good thoughts...and definitely NEVER give negative people even a second of your time or energy!
Cheers!
First and foremost, I appreciate the time you put into these videos Elliot. They are certainly different than most other media reviewers and I appreciate the type of films you cover as well. That being said, I am probably twice your age and while in my youth, I burned myself out of collecting music. I think the key word here is "COLLECTING" and if one tries to do that it always leads to not a good outcome. Even though I have been buying movies for over 30 years (from the laserdisc days to now 4K) I still don't own probably more than 400 movies currently. I only buy and keep what has REWATCH VALUE or movies from the handful of my favorite directors. I think there is a huge difference between a Collector and a Movie Lover ... Collectors buy pretty much anything and everything and can rationalize that purchase in their mind whether they really need it or not. Curating things for keeping them forever is the key here. Plus my wallet thanks me.
I think you nailed it here. “Collecting” becomes an obsession and addiction, and as you say - and Elliot says - it leads to a feeling of emptiness. I am a MOVIE LOVER who gets pleasure from owning my favorite films that mean something special to me and have that REWATCH VALUE as you noted. I actually get rid of films that no longer meet that standard. If your collection is based on genuine movie love then it is a special thing, an autobiography of sorts, but if it’s about owning “things” it is a waste of time and money.
@@benskelly8892I totally agree and you said it better than I can. The movie has to mean something to me for me to own it. Do I pick up sometimes a new one I have not seen to give it a shot? I do, if it is cheap enough. But if I am meh about it, I get rid of it. "Collecting" is just organized hoarding.
“After a time, you may find that ‘having’ is not so pleasing a thing after all as ‘wanting.’ It is not logical, but it is often true.”
Burnout is very real and, as you said, applicable in all areas of life. Balance and regulation is so important. And doing things for yourself rather than others... A very strong and relevant message, thanks for sharing!
Man, I needed this video. I very recently upgraded to 4K. Picked up a Panasonic DP-UB820, and an LG OLED C3. Immediately went nuts upgrading a bunch of my existing Blu-rays and also picking up a bunch of 4K titles I would not have bothered owning on HD. This afternoon I looked at my watch pile to find a movie to knock off my list - not watch and enjoy, just get it off the pile like it's a chore - and I just thought, "What the f** am I doing?" I have FIFTY-NINE movies on my watch pile, including box sets (at least two of which I'm kinda dreading), and two TV series I've barely touched. And yet, before I go to bed, I'll have Amazon open on my phone, scrolling through my Blu-ray wish list, thinking about what I could justify buying. I need a break.
Oh, and of course I liked and subscribed. 😉
You’re not alone my friend! Do what is best for you and your experience. Don’t worry about what other people say about you what you need. Just enjoy the movies you enjoy and curate an awesome collection of movies you love
You're definitely not alone. I thought you wrote about how I am. My watch pile has become huge in the past year or so, and I'm always on different sites on a lookout for sales. It's exhausting, 'cause all of my freetime is pretty much watching films and buying more than I can watch. Thinking of taking a full break from social media, smart phone and film collecting, and just watch what I have. Some would say, that I'm thinking of getting a life, man.
You need to watch all the blu-rays you already have before you buy anymore. That should be your rule.
This is just the video for every cinema lover!
Firstly, thank you for making this video and sharing your experience. I couldn't agree more to whatever you said. As a psychologist I know how difficult it is to openly share this.
Secondly, I could relate to each of your word. Engaging in movie marathons, rating them and comparing it with others, spending excessive time to write long reviews, making tons of movie lists, and watching films even when you don't feel like watching, collecting movies that you don't need...is a burnout.
Thirdly, the suggestion and the points that you put forward are really helpful. You literally covered everything in this video.
Thank You! ❤
i found my collecting become more important than watching and listening. Time to stand back a bit and take stock
I had an urge to collect everything Criterion and Eureka, a lot of blind buys. Any completist satisfaction was more than outweighed by the annoyance that I owned films I hadn’t really enjoyed or would ever want to watch again. They stood out as blights from my otherwise curated collection. Avoid burnout by only buying what you love, will want to watch again or are near certain you will enjoy it. Saying that blindly discovering something amazing is the best part of the hobby for me, but when it doesn’t work out, I sell, and the good thing about boutique releases is they hold value.
Great video, social media has made people ridiculous.
I myself often forget that there is a human being on the other end.
I mean... I know that, i knew that always, but you have to always remember, if you know what i mean.
Tyler Durden was right 'the things you own, end up owning you'
I took 6 month hiatus from collecting, and just when I thought I was out, the Bruce Lee boxset pulled me back in ;)
Really appreciate you sharing this video, pal. Film collecting burnout truly resonates at this moment. It's oddly cyclical.
Anywho, here's my Letterboxd rating for Billy Madison ☆☆☆☆☆
Thanks as always Nathan 🙏 and I’m with you on that Billy Madison rating
So refreshing, that there is no Background music. 🙌🏻
Good luck, Elliot
Hi Elliot, thank you for talking about such an important topic. I've been a mostly silent long-time viewer of your videos and really enjoy your content. I've learned about Arrow, Indicator, Second Sight and Radiance through your videos and I'm deeply thankful because these boutique labels are of such high quality and I enjoy the artwork and releases. Ever since I started working 1 1/2 years ago, I've doubled my physical film collection from 450-ish to over 1000 films. To be honest, it has become a bit overwhelming for me, both mentally and financially. I still enjoy watching and buying Blu-Rays. I haven't made the transition to 4K, however I often times feel like missing out on special/limited editions. This year, I limited my buying habits to films I really want to own (Perfect Blue and Funny Games being two examples). However, there are offers popping up here and there that I can't resist. I know I still have to work on that but I feel that I'm on the right path. Thanks again for your wonderful content and expanding my viewing habits.
Not only burnout, but sometimes I look at of these great Blu Rays that I brought recently and think, "Why did I do this? How many times do I think I'm gonna watch this great but utterly depressing movie? But, then again, yesterday I was looking thru my collection and found a copy of Ernest Lubitsch's Design For Living. I completely forgot I had it. I was just in the mood for it, and was more than happy to watch it for the (maybe) 50th time. Hadn't seen it in a minute.
This is exactly where i am now. Collecting while trying to make youtube videos is tough some times. Gald to hear im not the only collector/creator feeling this way. The need to keep up or be the first one to review a disc is overwhelming. I have been trying to cut back what I purchase and choose to make. So it's a process but I'm doing just what you said. I'm trying to go back to just making videos I want to make. Thanks! Great video man.
Thank you for this very important video, I can totally relate to your sentiments and feel better after listening to your advice ☺️
My pleasure! I’m happy I could have helped, even if it’s just a tiny bit. Cheers!
@@ElliotCoen Hope to keep in touch Elliot 👍🏻
I felt really burnt out too when I first start collecting Sealed Steelbook Movies. Before, I wanted to collect every single Steelbook available out there & Spent $$$ but then told myself that I need to slowdown and that I can’t have all of them😂after Accumulated thousands of Sealed Steelbooks for about 10yrs+😂🤦🏻♂️Took a break for couple years break from 2020-2023 and shift my interest to Pokemon TCG Sealed, Slab & Singles. Now I Collect both hobbies but now I just collect what I really wanted and enjoy and take away the stress having all mentality👍😉. New Sub here for some reason it recommended me your channel which I really enjoyed 👍
Not gonna lie, because of this channel I became more selective with my collection of physical media. Elliot taught me to stay away from steelbooks and to not worry too much about fomo. I'm just really glad that I learned this at the very beginning of my collecting phase. I probably own 3 films out of 300 that I'm not interested in keeping. And I only started collecting 10 months ago.
I own a few steelbooks, this was before Elliott's steelbooks video, and I barely collect any now.
Only go for the titles that really interest you!
Not buying steelbooks just because a youtuber doesnt like them anymore is kinda silly. I mean, if YOU like them, go ahead and buy them. Elliot is not your father...
@@GamezGuru1 I should elaborate.
1. Plenty steelbooks come in limited editions so you have to always be on the lookout for them because when they sell, they sell out fast.
2. They don't make steelbooks for every movie that you like.
3. If there's a movie that you like, it's highly likely that it's not available.
4. Best way to get the OOP steelbooks is through third party seller, which is extremely expensive.
If I want to get the "No Country For Old Men" steelbook, I'll have to pay $70+ for it. If I want to get the "There Will Be Blood" steelbook I'll have to pay $500+ for it.
Why spend $1,000 for 8 steelbooks when I can get 50 standard edition blu-rays for the same price.
I started collecting movies on vhs in 1977 when dvd came out i bought most of my vhs movies on dvd.Blu rays made me lose intrest in collecting but i still bought some of my favorites.I'm 61 now and 4K has been the final straw i stopped buying movies. Still watch old movies on you tube though.
Very well-said, Elliot!! I definitely went through a phase where I was concerned about giving a “good” movie a low-star rating, and eventually I realized I wasn’t being true to myself. Appreciate hearing your confidence in being true to your feelings on a film!
Also I can totally relate to burnout. I’ve been in the situation of trying to crank out x amount of videos at certain times, and eventually it just got tiring to me! It wasn’t fun anymore. Though I don’t post as frequently as I do, I at least like anything I post, which to me is so much more important.
I can concur with the sense of burn out. I love all things movie and collect, read and watch. But work/life balance and demands on time and energy and money have never been so great. Clean and tidy a room each day (moving around the house to keep on top of it), sort a cupboard, tidy a shelf, 10000 steps, tidy 1-metre of border in the garden, read a magazine article and watch a movie etc. My 'to watch' pile has never been so high and with excellent boxes of AK, Bergman, Wenders, Hitchcock, Walter Hill and soon Kim Novak to work through I need not buy any new items in 2024 ... but I will.
Need more hours, otherwise something is going to break.
This is why I stopped buying 4K titles for a while. I have way too many movies still in the shrink wrap unopened but no time to watch them.
I'm not a teenager anymore with all that free time.
Also, it's getting quite expensive to keep upgrading to 4K when you already own it on Blu-ray.
Very good constructive advice about a subject that relates to other types of burnout in life. I have learned to hold back on FOMO and be more selective in my physical media film collecting hobby and just enjoy what I own and make sure I re-watch while buying the odd film or TV series instead of amassing piles of discs just to satiate the collecting side of things.
I realised recently its only the " now" that's exciting - when I look at all the films that I lovingly collected but haven't played in years ...some I now know I never will....how time alters you're perception..
Absolutely. The fear of missing out seems to fade when what's new is now old. Sometimes taking a step back and assessing whether you need to buy something is all it takes to make a good decision. Thanks for watching and for the great comment!
My day job is working as a specialist in a Canadian hospital, burnout is common. Watching movies is my escape and source of relaxation. Keep up the great work, your videos are informative and well presented. I buy videos especially Criterion but I am selective.
Feel better big dawg. I’ll be here when you get back
Oh I'm not going anywhere! Just sparking a needed discussion here in the community
I feel like if you’re expecting to have your life changed every week by a film, it’s sort of a paradox. You should live a little of life in between these great movie experiences imho
@@ElliotCoenwell, that was fast 😁
I know exactly what you are talking about. I have been buying up physical media and spending so much money ( I won't even reveal how much but it is concerning). I am forcing myself to go out in nature, read on my porch while listening to music and put brakes on my collecting. However, it has been easy as I have bought so many criterion movies in the recent past and I am letting them just sit on my shelf for now. I need to just to pull back. By the way, you have an excellent speaking voice. If you wanted a second career, I could envision you as a narrator like Attenborough.
You know what You don't get burned out of watching your bank account Grow by saving money 💰💰
Very well said! As someone who is disabled and on a very limited income, I have no choice but to be selective what I buy. I have those films I need to own the best version of on disc so I make a list and try to pick them up when I can. There are movies I’d like to see and own but if it’s not at the top of my list I I’ll most likely pass on it. Not caring what others think about what you like or dislike is a good thing. I happen to love the Star Wars prequels and have from day one. As far as RUclips, I make videos at my pace because physically and mentally I wouldn’t be able to keep up. Keep up the great work!
I saw a time management video in the 1970s that impressed me. At work, create three piles from your inbox: A, B, and C. Complete the A tasks immediately. Complete the B tasks after you've completed the A tasks. After a certain period of time, toss the C task pile if you never got around to it.
I mostly prioritize what I watch that way and am comfortable with it. I started buying DVDs in 1997 and I haven't watched a bunch of them. I'm glad I own them but, unlike the C pile, I won't toss or sell them. I'm a collector and derive a lot of satisfaction out of just knowing I could watch them if I ever have the time.
I'm retired and still don't have the time to watch all that I own. I stream a lot and also go to movie theaters. But, with hundreds of unwatched movies I own (out of thousands), I've come to accept that I may never watch them.
100% do it for yourself, a lot of times the films that everyone says I am supposed to watch and like I end up not really liking. So now I just watch a film if it legitimately interests me.
I hear you Elliot. I am feeling exactly the same way. So much great stuff came out, has just come out, and will be coming out soon that I was getting totally stressed out. I forgot about how much I enjoy just watching the film. I put my purchases on hold for now and said you know what who cares if it’s 4k, blu ray, dvd or streaming. I just want to enjoy movies again
I watched 107 films last year. For me around the 100 mark is a good balance. Cheers!
100 is very much! Well done 🎉
Excellent video brother. I have experienced this in so so many things in my life. I quit being a musician due to this. I was really into photography for years and honestly posting on Instagram all the time burned me out as I felt I needed to get better and no lo get enjoyed it. This recently hit me with vinyl collecting, which I had done since I was a teenager(I'm in my early fifties). I hated posting everything after awhile and rarely do now. I still collect vinyl , movies and books. Books are different as I simply can't read a whole book as quickly. And books are really rarely read by people so there isn't as much of a need or want to post. Overall, this video really hits home and at my age I realize there will never be enough time for everything so I rarely post on Insta anymore, quit almost all Facebook groups etc. I just don't care about any of that any longer. Anyhow, this really resonated with me.
Great video. For me I don’t need every release but buying a movie and bringing it home reminds me of being a kid and time with my dad, better times, so I do it a lot. Same outcome really lots of movies I don’t need. For a long time these dvds were replacement friends. I’m glad I’ve seen what I’m doing and I’ve been able to change my collecting habits. Thanks for the video.
I’m currently a burnt out psychiatrist who makes niche RUclips videos about records as a cheaper more effective and fun alternative to therapy! There is a fairly simple concept I picked up used in child psychiatry/psychotherapy for new parents who usually due to issues around their own childhood end up in a terrible mental state striving to be the perfect parent; as obviously that is impossible. Therapy is aimed at looking at what the individual parent considers as “good enough” and the therapist uses this concept to reduce shame and negotiate more realistic achievable targets. I find I can usefully apply this concept to collecting especially when it comes to areas such as hifi kit and the curse of upgraditis! Another antidote I find helpful is ironically having a secondary interest which for me is Blu-ray/4k which is lovely because it is less intense and I can be much more selective and happy to not buy everything I like. From a RUclips perspective I find Heath from cereal at midnight and Scott from the pressing matters set a good example making occasional videos that will not get large viewing figures but about something they absolutely love is the sane sustainable way forward. Anyway I’m going to shut up now!
Maybe movies are a winter hobby, it's summer now, get a bike or hiking boots or a tennis racket or a football etc.
Summer only lasts a few months, get outside.
I realised about 7 years ago with my collection, that I was just collecting, buying anything that was cheap. I sold off around 500 films and then started curating the collection. While I now don't have 'everything', everything I do have I love. Buy what you enjoy, don't buy it because you feel you have to.
Elliot, thanks for the video on this important topic.
I try to approach my physical media collection as I would a record collection or bookshelf. I do in some cases try to collect as many films as I can by a particular director, but mostly I want to have a collection that, if someone is at my house looking at it, tells them something about who I am and the films I love.
At the beginning of this year, I realized I have so many films on the shelf I haven’t even watched yet, I decided to severely curb my buying for a while.
You speak a lot of truth here.
Thank you 🙏
Great video and important topic for discussion. I don't get burnt out from watching (I don't get to watch enough for my liking) but definitely collecting and buying burnout which at times feels compulsive, but I mostly buy things I'm truly interested in. I'm not in the business of collecting entire labels etc, because as you say you can't like it all, so what is the purpose of owning it all? Cheers pal 👍
Thanks for the support as always Sam and totally agree with your comment 👏
I'm a casual collector. If it's a movie i have memories of, or I'm very interested in seeing, and if the 4k transfer is good, I'll buy it. Only problem they're very expensive, and i see myself awaiting sales. Recently i got the star trek movie collection and oppenheimer on a sale. However, i got the james cameron movies preordered, and fist of legend releasing in may, only cos I've got a 20% discount voucher from HMV... yeah pretty interesting time to be a movie collector. I do enjoy your channel, thanks for these provoking discussions.
Wise words indeed, Elliot.
I know the feeling all too well and I couldn't agree more with you.👍
Ever since I started collecting in March 2008, I decided to enjoy the process. I have experienced burnout a few times, but as soon as I see it coming, I just stop before it "burns" me. I mean, I stop collecting and stop watching movies for a few weeks or a couple of months until I feel like doing it again.
I do compare myself with others sometimes, but in the end, I always realize that it's useless. Having a certain movie does not define who I am. I AM NOT MY COLLECTION. I AM NOT MY HOBBY. That's only a tiny little part of who I am.
Don't let other people dictate how you spend your money and your valuable time! This is supposed to be fun for each of us.
I collected 4,500 movies in four years, I haven’t seen about half of them. This year I’ve only bought a couple of new movies and no new releases. But I’ve watched 75 movies so far since new years, I seem to be in my movie enjoying phase and I feel no urge to buy anything right now.
I go through spells. Can consistently watch one or two films a day for weeks then suddenly just not feel like it for a week or two or sometimes even falls into a period where I'll watch only three or four films over a couple of months. I don't have the issue when it comes to buying physical-media though because I don't buy too excessively.
May I recommend a docu on film collector/preserver Henri Langlois. You as a collector reflect his spirit , as do others who educate themselves about film and form a core of historian /enthusiasts , serving as a sort of old guard ,against time swallowing these treasures away. I have an enormous collection , and really enjoy popping in a disc and scanning the film and seeing my fav parts (like an old friend) , and 10-15 min. later ,I do the same with another ,and so on. A night could be spent clipping and going from mood to mood , with a smorgasboard effect. Nice to see young people with passion for works of art in your homes!
I’ve experienced it with over 30+ years of collecting, and increasingly add more “rules” to limit what I buy on physical. I use streaming as a rental to aid this, and watch channels such as yours and Instagram to share in the enjoyment of physical media over owning everything.
I think it’s important to buy and enjoy stuff you like. One of the problems of being a collector is that you sometimes feel compelled to buy stuff just because it is on a particular label or buy another movie because it is a much better version of a film. I think it is important sometimes to take a couple of days before you order something because the sudden rush of excitement can fade quickly. I was tempted to buy the Arrow version of Barbarella because it looks like such a great set. I don’t think the actual film is very good but I worried about missing out on a great box set. Now I am glad I didn’t spend money on it. Other times I end up regretting not buying something and end up having to buy it second hand. This happened to me with the Arrow Phantasm box set. I eventually bought it second hand but there was no harm done as I was able to buy it at a price that was higher than when it was released but still not extortionately priced. I really enjoyed it and perhaps all the more because I waited until I decided that I really wanted it.
So, my advice is to take time and think. 48 hours later do you still feel excited about the title you think you want?If you do then it could be a good purchase. If not, save your money.
I rated the inbetweeners movie 5 stars. Is it a 5 star movie? No. But I had a 5/5 time watching it 😂 🍿
Exactly my thinking!
I am hearing similar things from you and many other people I follow on RUclips and not just movie reviewers.
Great video mate. 👍🏼
Don't have collecting burnout, but I definitely did have movie watching fatigue. had been watching a movie almost every day for a month. So I had to take a break until the time I really felt like watching something again.
I'm a screener for a film festival and every year, after six months of festival screening and the films I see at the festival, I'm completely exhausted by it. I just want to shut off the screening part of my brain and watch something dumb where stuff blows up real good. So I get this even if I don't obsessively pursue the latest shiny.
I recently faced a similar burnout and really appreciate you taking the time to share this, Elliot. I tried to do the 365 things/year things on Letterboxd last year and ran out of steam during October/November. Here's what I learned from that - I felt like I was pressured, by partaking in something like Hooptober (the horror challenge) to watch a bunch of stuff I didn't really like. And then it becomes a chore, becomes feeling like it's work. And I already watch movies for work! So, I just have to be honest that it's okay to ditch the directors I don't enjoy or whatever the latest Radiance release is to just rewatch, like, Raiders of the Lost Ark yet again. I think the biggest challenge here is that any social display of one's viewing/purchasing habits (LB, RUclips) runs the risk of catering to the way the herd is going. Which is often dictated by what's been released on physical media recently. And I'm not - and you're not - an employee of those companies, so why do it?
I've been a long-time subscriber and one of my favorite videos from a while back was when you were talking about how you and your wife binged a bunch of Hitchcock over the holidays. I'd love to see more videos from you that share with us your passions for film besides the collecting side of things - less about providing us reviews/consumer product information, and more about you and what you enjoy. After all, that's what RUclips should be, a way for people to connect over shared interests.
Yep- been there
Well said.
Thanks so much!
If they stopped re-releasingstuff on a point less and expensive format(4K) and focusing on releasing stuff that has never seen the light of day.
Great video! I normally buy 4k blu ray that I’d watch more than once. I don’t buy because other people are buying them. If it’s a movie I just wanna see once or don’t really care of, I don’t mind watching them if available on Netflix or Amazon or any other streaming platform.
A lot of this sounds like addictive personality traits; for most people that will be internalised, but for content creators here there can perhaps sometimes be an element of externalised addiction appearing. Just a few days ago I watched a video where the creator talked about how he had determined to watch all the Masters of Cinema releases which he hadn't yet got round to (quite a lot of them!). In addition to doing this he decided to make videos talking about his set task, but they weren't to be similar to how Elliot goes about talking about films he's watched; instead they would be much more in depth and include ripped clips from the discs. Two months in and he's already feeling overwhelmed by the rod he's made for his own back, and was asking his viewers whether he should carry on or reduce the scope of the planned videos. This is precisely what Elliot meant when he talked about doing things for yourself and not for others.
The same sense of making a rod for his own back is in the story of the chap who decided he would watch 365 movies this year. You need a break from anything sometimes, even the stuff you enjoy. A sense of moderation is required. Deciding to collect the entire output of this or that boutique label is fine if you get in on the ground floor (as I have with Radiance) or if that imprint only releases moderate numbers of discs during a year (an example would be the BFI flipside strand, which I also collect, but have a fair few older releases to buy still), but if there already exist possibly hundreds of discs when you start, you're onto a hiding for nothing unless you win the lottery!
Better to set personal goals with limits, say collect the output of a studio you like (preferably defunct so there's a finite number of films on the list) such as Hammer, or the work of a particular director, or maybe films within a certain group, like 'Ealing Comedies' or 'Video Nasties'. That way you can get the thrill without it becoming a chore.
Currently im experiencing burnout, not collecting but watching movies. Last year I managed to watch so many films, there were multiple months where I was watching 2 films a day, I enjoyed it. But now, I just feel like I can't be bothered to watch films and even if I do it's a comedy or something light hearted and I don't feel like watching something from my collection of boutique labels.
I have movies on DVD, Bluray and 4K. I only collect movies I like, not just to "have" them. I don't care about Labels, just the film on the disc.
A very healthy and wise approach! Thanks for watching
Take breaks whenever you feel like. Try to collect physical you will watch and/or rewatch. Go for the sales, deals and used.
So many collect and forget its the movie that is the most important, what's it matter if it's 4k and that black levels look better, what's it matter if its got extra material tat inside.
I actually wonder how many are actually a real movie fan ? I'd say many are just a hoarding collector who actually doesn't watch the majority of what that own. Its their money. Do what you want with it, but they don't fool me.
Only collecting movies I love and enjoyed in the 80s. I am offering my love for horror and great movies in those eras.
Great video about collecting thanks for posting , I've been collecting vinyl since 2017 I love music but the first couple of years I sickened my self and my wallet. So how I collect nowadays is I buy my records October through to March because that's the month's I spend most of my time in the house (Winter) the rest of the year I try to spend as much time out doors even if it's just in the garden which my bluetooth speaker is used and my records don't get spun, my point is you don't have to collect 12 months of the year to still enjoy collecting, and if there's a few releases that come out during the summer months when I don't buy vinyl they are always still available come October when I start my collecting again
Since partner bought fab new XGIMI Pro Ultra dual light source 4K projector and we can view so much more! Love projection and cannot/ will not view anyhting significantly on TV! I could chat loads more as this subject is very much part of me! Cheers Chum! ❤
I personally restrict myself to movies I like. There are many films I love that are not on the 4k blu ray format yet like the first 20 entries in the James Bond series, Airplane!, Shanghai Noon, and Zoolander.
I would like to have new releases on day one, but if circumstances wont' allow I'll get them later. Responsabilities comes always first, as a father, husband, worker (health care provider). But I do get involved in other activities like getting off the couch and doing regular excercise, sharing quality time with my relatives and family, and enjoying outdoor activities from time to time. Get anothe mind set, get in shape and seek a healthy living lifestyle.
I just don't seem to have the time, energy or attention span to devote to film watching anymore and I certainly don't have the income for collecting anything, which saddens me immensely.
You seem like a more thoughtful person than your average moviegoer. This means you enjoy reflecting on your viewing experience. But based on your programs and the RUclips format, it has to be hard to keep up with everything.
I am at the age where l have a 'one-reel' test. If a film can't catch my interest within the first reel, l drop it. That may sound harsh, but rare is the film that can't lay it all out in 20 minutes. In contrast, if l really dig a movie, l might spend a week on it, watching the commentary tracks, watching the film without sound, watching the extra features, etc. l really make it worth my while and grab every ounce of entertainment as possible from a larger set.
People aren't constructed to consume entertainment endlessly. Movies deserve better than that, especially the unique and talented filmmakers. I wouldn't care if you only covered one release a week because it makes the discussion worthwhile and is a great use of your time. If people want a star system, they can get it elsewhere.
Keep up the good work, whatever you decide!
I never really burn out I just get a little bored and take a break. Then I come back and it's more interesting because there are things I missed and can catch up on
The youtube algorithm that wants and demands high quality videos each and every 30 minutes ... I think I have given up on that for my own channels.
Anyway, I love watching your videos and finding out about different blu-rays / 4Ks but I certainly don't think I must buy them all, there is just not time in the day to watch them all or read every comic or watch every YT video of interest or every book or listen to every record or song and also actually get out and exercise and meet friends and live a life. Only buy the blu-rays that interest me, certainly not aiming to get most of them as the house would just explode. No interest in worrying about what others have (or perhaps don't have), comparison is a waste of time as it is in exercise classes or in singing or elsewhere in life.
That's good advice! Only I've always done everything as you said. 1 - I only like very particular genres and actors, and watch and buy accordingly. 2 - Never ever thought of collecting every edition from any collection, series, or label, because of my particular tastes and knowing I won't like most of it.
3 - Also rate most titles on Letterboxd 3.5 to 5 stars, because if I didn't absolutely hate it, there's no reason to rate lower. All of the stuff I decide to watch are based on my liking already anyway, and knowing myself I rarely get disappointed. Yes the overall quality deteriorated since the 90s and even 00s, but still it's not often I come across truly awful movies.
P.S. I did buy all 8 of the Vault line-up so far, but not sure it'll continue. That's the only 'complete up to now' series of releases I have. 😂
Not burn out, guilt.
If I were young and single I would not do want I do now. When you are young you need to have a life. Watching endless movies is not healthy. It's a race no one else gives a shit. You are just conning yourself that this matters.
I am now 50 and I am comfortable watching a lot of films or TV, playing games and reading books. I just collect my favourites.
Burnout is very common in all walks of life. Just take a break and do something else. If it's a case of no money get healthy by going for walks and listening to music or podcasts.
Remember all of this is meaningless if it's not enjoyable.
This video was so needed, thank you
I love the content you talk about may be change your format of topics it doesn't have to be about what you've purchased new for your collection a new theme to talk about take a step back from the new stuff catch a breath
I have thrown out a lot of my collection. I have about 150 films on Blu Ray. That's it. If I have 1000 films I will never watch them all.
Sometimes find it hard to select stuff to watch because of overload ie watch new stuff or watch stuff already watched
Here's the thing: how many movies in your collection are you actually going to watch more than 1-2 times in your life? Probably not that many. I realised this when I looked at my collection (about 200 movies). Yes, they are great movies, and I'm glad I have them, but realistically, I doubt I will actually sit down and watch them. If I HAD TO get rid of my movies for some reason, I would keep maybe 20 of them, and not cry that I lost the rest. But maybe that's just me.
I mostly stick to Japanese movies for the past few years its been a phenomenal wild af ride
God bless japan and their weirdness
Lots of great Japanese stuff coming out on Blu-ray, both live action and animation. It’s a great time to be a fan!
I only buy physicals of films I really enjoyed and know I'll watch again with the only actual full collections being all films from a certain filmmaker. The benefit of that is that I can happily buy the best versions without worrying about wasting my money.
I also log everything on letterboxd and quickly learned I don't need to add written logs to EVERY film. Like you, I just gut rate it. I don't care about others opinions on that.
Just enjoy the hobby, simple as
I buy tv and films I like and feel I have a connection to
My collection has slowed down massively I just don't have the space I'm very selective about which titles I'm buying now. my spending went out of control trying to keep up and I didn't like the person I was becoming and was enjoyable anymore. some channels are just how much free stuff I can scrounge and are losing focus on what their channels are supposed to be about in the first place.