Flaring on the Ulanzi is a little too extreme for my tastes, but still a decent less expensive price point. Nice video dude, always a pleasure to watch.
I think this is why the Moment lens is the best of both lenses. The moment has soft corners like the Ulanzi but it has similar flaring to the Sirui. I like the soft corners it gives it an old school vibe..
Agree... i bought the Ulanzi to shoot a little bit... Going to purchase the Moment lens for our future episodes. ruclips.net/video/K-heL0VLVIo/видео.html
I personally thought Sirui flare was best and besides who wants a dumpster fire lol, another great comparison and look forward to when you feel like making another vid.
Ulanzi works w Sandmarc cases w the 17mm thread. Also Ulanzi needs to be desqueezed to 2.39:1 instead of 2.36:1. Moment app I believe desqueezes at 2.36. So you’ll still notice your subjects are a bit thinner.
Great video Patrick! The thing about the Ulanzi lens is that it actually isn't 1.33x. It's closer to 1.5x (or about 1.42x to be exact.) You can see this in your bridge footage where, on the right side the images are lined up closely, but on the left side you can see almost a whole other pillar. The Sandmarc lens seems to have the same issue from what I've seen. It's also sold under a couple of different names, I have one that's unbranded and can be found for as little as $30.
@@impatrickt The focal length is that of your taking lens, in this case 26mm full frame equivalent, the anamorphic adapters don't change that. What it does change is the horizontal field of view, so a 1.33x anamorphic on a 26mm should always result in a hfov of about 20mm while 1.42x is 18mm.
@@OskarHelgason You're not understanding what I'm saying. The Anamorphic lens itself also has its own focal length, which means the Ulanzi is a wider focal length (they say it's 16mm) Suri and Moment don't advertise their focal length. I've shot with 35mm and 85mm 1.33x anamorphic primes on my GH5. This is why monitors have 1.33x desqueeze options. It's a squeeze standard. You can use the same squeeze on multiple focal lengths. If the Ulanzi was a wider squeeze like you said than you would have to apply a different desqueeze in post than the Sirui and Moment. You don't have to though. They all take the same 1.33x desqueeze.
Great stuff. I’ve always been intrigued by smartphone lenses but really am totally ignorant of even where to start. Now that I’m experimenting with only shooting video with my iPhone 11 Pro Max I think I’m going to take a chance on one of these lenses to bring added quality to my videos. Thanks for sharing this
Amazing representation of comparing two well priced lenses. I may go with Sirui since I've already got a moment case. However, I've heard some complaints that the bayonet blades are so easily bent to the point that they can become unusable. Do you have thoughts on this?
But if you already happen to have the 67mm adapters for Moment lenses, like me, the square one won’t fit the Sirui anamorphic as it’s made specifically to adapt the Moment anamorphic for VND’s and other 67mm filters. I like the Sirui for its quality and price point, but I’m sticking with Moment for the gold flare option and filter adapter that I already own. Hopes this helps someone in the same situation.
The disadvantage of the clip on lenses is that you have to take your phone out of the protective case if you want to use them, otherwise the lens will not be close enough to the phone lens and your images won’t be sharp. I prefer to keep my phone protected so I got a Moment case for my Sirui (=Serooh) lenses. I may consider the Sirui anamorphic lens, especially since Sirui now also has a variable ND filter for this lens. This filter also fits their V2 18mm lens btw.
If you start shooting a film with an anamorphic lens do you need to shoot the entire movie with that lens? Or can you switch to another wide or macro lens for other shots in the film?
Garr E. Fe Lix Honestly I haven’t shot with any of them since this review. Now that I have the 11 Pro I’m just less inclined to use any third party lenses. And its a pain to either use an app or desqueeze in post. The Sirui and Moment are essentially identical but the Sirui has the sharpest corners.
First Name no worries. Actually if you don’t use a third party app at all the image will be squeezed making it difficult to frame in general. You don’t need black bars when shooting anamorphic. That’s a misconception caused by people faking anamorphic. Whatever player you upload to later will add bars if it doesn’t support true anamorphic resolutions.
Why go to the trouble and expense of using an anamorphic lens, which can twist and warp the image, when you could use a wide-angle adapter, and crop the top and bottom for the anamorphic aspect ratio? In either situation, you’re getting the full horizontal resolution of the camera, and software is throwing away the top and bottom to give you the wide/short aspect ratio.
Great video! Subscribed! Actually, I think this is at least the 3rd time I watch this video, because I need to be sure of my choice. I got the anamorphic Wolffilms from Amazon.de, which is a German 1.33x anamorphic lens in a very nice metal body. The thing that pleased me, too, is the fact that there is a solid phone case for my P30 Pro. The image is quite sharp, but somehow the image rendering is not what I have expected and no light streaks (for quite a high price). I need to return this and make a choice between UIanzi and Sirui. Sirui would be my choice, but I cannot find a Moment case for P30 Pro (Europe), yet. Ulanzi has the right case - which is nice, in the eventuality I would add the Osmo Mobile (that clip could be a problem, with the phone mounted on the stabiliser). Ulanzi flares + price are nice, but I prefer the sharpness of Sirui (but can't find a case). Tough choice!
Thanks dude. I already had the Sirui VD-01 and got the Sirui case with it, but I returned the case in hopes the Moment case with the wood would also use the same mechanism, surely looked like it. But you just gave confirmation. So I'll order that while it's on sale now. Do you know if Moment and Sirui have the same outer dimensions for the filter holders?
Bought the Ulanzi Anamorphic and Cage for my iPhone Pro Max.. I assume I need to mount the lens on the far left (of three) lenses... and only use wide... then FilmPro to select the “Moondog” (as the only Hardware For anamorphic lenses) and I am getting in the frame in the far left and right side... or am I missing something???
I just bought the ulanzi anamorphic and the 11 pro max. I’m waiting on the counterweight. I know I’ll need to use my gimbal. But when I use filmic pro with out the gimbal and IS turned on the motion of the IS is greatly noticeable. With an animorphic should I be shooting with no IS?
do you used Sirui Neutral Density Filter18WA2NDX for VD-01 Anamorphic Lens ? Want to buy but out of stock at B&H. Do i need adapter to use their ND filter on VD-01 ?
I dont ever use the provided lens clips that come with the lens. I make my own case using a step up adapter O ring for the lenses. Especially if it's the ULANZI anamorphic lens. It looks its best when you modify the lens closer to the phone lens and lined up better.
@@_____-ze5ow I don't but ulanzi is actually finally coming out with cases very close to what I made. Look them up. It's great now! But for certain phones.
@@_____-ze5ow what I make for myself is a very simple crude design case. Nothing fancy. Anyone can make it. That's why I recommend checking out ULANZI's new material. They've come out with some REALLY neat stuff since then. I only make my own mounting cases for phones that I can't find mounting lens cases for.
I have to say that the ulanzi will fit on a case or rig and is well presented and the clarity or soft as you mention ion the sign is Mr perfection kicking in and in film, even at the cinema stage who sees that plus your going to watch this on substandard gear, so twice the price or more is Questionable.
There is an Anamorphic Lens made 5 years earlier than this counterfeit & cheap copy which the MOMENT company made, and that is from a company called MOONDOGLABS. Not only are the founders Scott and Julie ex-optical engineers from the infamous ZEISS Lens manufacturer Company, but they also have been designing Lenses for professionals for 40 years. Whereas the Moment shop has a couple of skateboard dudes, who have to rely on Chinese optical engineers. Hence if you would have made a comparison between an "ANA" lens from moondoglabs and this cheap quality MOMENT lens, You would have seen it in a heartbeat, the difference in sharpness and the nicer flares, much less barreling, no vignetting, and so many things more.... I am stunned you do not set your own bar very high at all, by shouting out this is a good lens here. I wont even start with the sandmarc and Ulanzi which are plain horrific lenses. Kapkur (or the mother company richoptics) in China is one of the manufacturer behind those sandmarc and ulanzi lenses by the way... Patrick,...Up Your Game,... there are just way too many people out there who already know all of this,.... Akos ( www.akosphoto.com )
I mentioned the flaring and the distortion. I like that retro look but it's not everyone's cup of tea. I can balance it on the Osmo 3 no problem - which gimbal are you using?
IM BROKE! IM A DEAD MAN.
Where is that from?
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Flaring on the Ulanzi is a little too extreme for my tastes, but still a decent less expensive price point. Nice video dude, always a pleasure to watch.
I think this is why the Moment lens is the best of both lenses. The moment has soft corners like the Ulanzi but it has similar flaring to the Sirui. I like the soft corners it gives it an old school vibe..
Agree... i bought the Ulanzi to shoot a little bit... Going to purchase the Moment lens for our future episodes.
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I got my Ulanzi version. It's so good for the price. I'm about to get the whole Surui kit soon. Thx for the amazing review.
Nice! Enjoy it!
Do you have footage? I bought the Ulanzi too... but might go with the Moment Lens soon.
Sirui is much much better. Nice vid
Nice comparison! I am using the Sirui with ND filter and quite happy with it.
Brother, I took have Sirui VD-01 and which ND filter do you use with it?
@@dannythewanderingmonk I am using Sirui 18-WA2 ND2
All these lenses, have such unique looks, when stacked up against each other.
Think I’ll need to watch this video one more time, just to be sure☺️
This video is so well made. You deserve a lot more subs
Could you review the 400mm Sirui lens? From the reviews, it's surprisingly sharp for such a mobile lens.
I don’t have one! I can ask them though!
Thank you this is a very useful video
I bought the Ulanzi anamorphic. Yeah, the flares are a bit overkill but it only cost me £25 ($38)
nice!
If you are onnan real budget you can look on aliexpress i got one there and for just onder $20 i really like it
I personally thought Sirui flare was best and besides who wants a dumpster fire lol, another great comparison and look forward to when you feel like making another vid.
eh Joe 😂😂😂
Geez JJ, we get it, flares are great.
Ulanzi works w Sandmarc cases w the 17mm thread. Also Ulanzi needs to be desqueezed to 2.39:1 instead of 2.36:1. Moment app I believe desqueezes at 2.36. So you’ll still notice your subjects are a bit thinner.
Garr E. Fe Lix doesn’t sound like enough of a difference to worry about it. The apps wont let you choose that anyways so not worth the hassle IMO.
Great video Patrick! The thing about the Ulanzi lens is that it actually isn't 1.33x. It's closer to 1.5x (or about 1.42x to be exact.) You can see this in your bridge footage where, on the right side the images are lined up closely, but on the left side you can see almost a whole other pillar. The Sandmarc lens seems to have the same issue from what I've seen.
It's also sold under a couple of different names, I have one that's unbranded and can be found for as little as $30.
Oskar Helgason 1.33x is the squeeze not the focal length. You can have different focal lengths with the same 1.33x squeeze.
@@impatrickt The focal length is that of your taking lens, in this case 26mm full frame equivalent, the anamorphic adapters don't change that. What it does change is the horizontal field of view, so a 1.33x anamorphic on a 26mm should always result in a hfov of about 20mm while 1.42x is 18mm.
@@OskarHelgason You're not understanding what I'm saying. The Anamorphic lens itself also has its own focal length, which means the Ulanzi is a wider focal length (they say it's 16mm) Suri and Moment don't advertise their focal length. I've shot with 35mm and 85mm 1.33x anamorphic primes on my GH5. This is why monitors have 1.33x desqueeze options. It's a squeeze standard. You can use the same squeeze on multiple focal lengths. If the Ulanzi was a wider squeeze like you said than you would have to apply a different desqueeze in post than the Sirui and Moment. You don't have to though. They all take the same 1.33x desqueeze.
Great stuff. I’ve always been intrigued by smartphone lenses but really am totally ignorant of even where to start. Now that I’m experimenting with only shooting video with my iPhone 11 Pro Max I think I’m going to take a chance on one of these lenses to bring added quality to my videos. Thanks for sharing this
I touch on this in my Moment anamorphic review but anamorphic is one of my favourite photo lenses too!
Patrick Tomasso I’ll check that out! Thanks
I have the Ulanzi lens with the case for me 11 pro Max and it's amazing! 💯👌🏽
Beautiful, good, informative, useful and well edited video! Thanks!
Amazing representation of comparing two well priced lenses. I may go with Sirui since I've already got a moment case.
However, I've heard some complaints that the bayonet blades are so easily bent to the point that they can become unusable. Do you have thoughts on this?
Ildefonso Martinez haven’t experienced any issues with it.
Ulanzi lens felt a bit too over the top with it's flares (for my tastes; it looked sorta fake to me) I really liked the other tho
Can you recommend ND filters that fit with the Sirui? Also, would love to see more sample vids of the sirui with the iphone 11 pro
i dont use ND filters with my phone i cant be bothered
Brother,did you buy ND filters to go with Sirui VD-01
But if you already happen to have the 67mm adapters for Moment lenses, like me, the square one won’t fit the Sirui anamorphic as it’s made specifically to adapt the Moment anamorphic for VND’s and other 67mm filters. I like the Sirui for its quality and price point, but I’m sticking with Moment for the gold flare option and filter adapter that I already own. Hopes this helps someone in the same situation.
Moment shit is ass
great video man. I'm looking to get one. I heard the Ulazni is the same size as the Moment lense.
The disadvantage of the clip on lenses is that you have to take your phone out of the protective case if you want to use them, otherwise the lens will not be close enough to the phone lens and your images won’t be sharp.
I prefer to keep my phone protected so I got a Moment case for my Sirui (=Serooh) lenses.
I may consider the Sirui anamorphic lens, especially since Sirui now also has a variable ND filter for this lens. This filter also fits their V2 18mm lens btw.
Bennie Laars depends on your case. I like thin cases like the solidsuit or spigen. Clips have no issue because it’s flush.
May I know which ND filter did you use with Sirui VD-01
Heyyy did your moment case worked with the sirui lens? I hate the adapter.
Great review thx // Can i mount 'moment case' and 'ulanzi lens'?
Really helpful video. Thanks for making this clip!
wow the pictures are stunning
If you start shooting a film with an anamorphic lens do you need to shoot the entire movie with that lens? Or can you switch to another wide or macro lens for other shots in the film?
ideally you stick to anamorphic otherwise you're cropping a spherical lens quite unnaturally.
@@impatrickt Good to know! Would you recommend anamorphic for suspense films since these typically use a lot of closeups?
Ulanzi also screws into Sandmarc cases = win win
What's the set-up required once you've got the lens clipped on? Any special apps?
These lenses are attached to the iPhone’s standard-wide lens, is this correct?
Can the Sirui lens be fitted directly to a phone case like the sandmarc case for the iPhone?
Did you watch the video?
@@impatrickt yes, got it, my bad
Does the Ulanzi lenses fit into the moment cases?
It doesn't not - it's attached to a U-Clamp
@@impatrickt Thank you bro :)
thanks to show the siruis lens... Do you have the wide angle lens of siruis? It´s good?
i do - it's nice!
Patrick, what’s your thoughts on the distortion between these two and Moment?
Garr E. Fe Lix Honestly I haven’t shot with any of them since this review. Now that I have the 11 Pro I’m just less inclined to use any third party lenses. And its a pain to either use an app or desqueeze in post. The Sirui and Moment are essentially identical but the Sirui has the sharpest corners.
FalconerPhoto I’m good
First Name no worries. Actually if you don’t use a third party app at all the image will be squeezed making it difficult to frame in general. You don’t need black bars when shooting anamorphic. That’s a misconception caused by people faking anamorphic. Whatever player you upload to later will add bars if it doesn’t support true anamorphic resolutions.
First Name The Moment is cheaper and much easier to use!
First Name depends also what your going to use it for. Filmic offers lots more options.
Why go to the trouble and expense of using an anamorphic lens, which can twist and warp the image, when you could use a wide-angle adapter, and crop the top and bottom for the anamorphic aspect ratio? In either situation, you’re getting the full horizontal resolution of the camera, and software is throwing away the top and bottom to give you the wide/short aspect ratio.
Steve Hines because a wide angle lens won’t give you the compression of an anamorphic lens.
Great video! Subscribed! Actually, I think this is at least the 3rd time I watch this video, because I need to be sure of my choice. I got the anamorphic Wolffilms from Amazon.de, which is a German 1.33x anamorphic lens in a very nice metal body. The thing that pleased me, too, is the fact that there is a solid phone case for my P30 Pro. The image is quite sharp, but somehow the image rendering is not what I have expected and no light streaks (for quite a high price). I need to return this and make a choice between UIanzi and Sirui. Sirui would be my choice, but I cannot find a Moment case for P30 Pro (Europe), yet. Ulanzi has the right case - which is nice, in the eventuality I would add the Osmo Mobile (that clip could be a problem, with the phone mounted on the stabiliser). Ulanzi flares + price are nice, but I prefer the sharpness of Sirui (but can't find a case). Tough choice!
Thanks dude. I already had the Sirui VD-01 and got the Sirui case with it, but I returned the case in hopes the Moment case with the wood would also use the same mechanism, surely looked like it. But you just gave confirmation. So I'll order that while it's on sale now.
Do you know if Moment and Sirui have the same outer dimensions for the filter holders?
Bananas and Bass they’re different for filters unfortunately!
Bought the Ulanzi Anamorphic and Cage for my iPhone Pro Max.. I assume I need to mount the lens on the far left (of three) lenses... and only use wide... then FilmPro to select the “Moondog” (as the only Hardware For anamorphic lenses) and I am getting in the frame in the far left and right side... or am I missing something???
How is the footage on the side compared to moment?
Moment makes the best one but the price is indicative of that!
Does that Ulanzi clip fit on the iPhone 11 Pro pretty easily?
Scott Isitt it doesn’t fit on anything easily
Patrick Tomasso 😄 Thanks. Helpful to know.
I just bought the ulanzi anamorphic and the 11 pro max. I’m waiting on the counterweight. I know I’ll need to use my gimbal. But when I use filmic pro with out the gimbal and IS turned on the motion of the IS is greatly noticeable. With an animorphic should I be shooting with no IS?
WHAT'S GIMBALL ?
Romain Provost a gimbal is an electronic stabilizer
I really don´t like the blue horizontal lens flares. Are they typicacl for anamorphic lenses?
DieTabbi yes
Hi, is really sirui lens can fit for moment case?
yeah
does moment lenses fit with surui clip? good day to you sir.
Ross Longos everything but the anamorphic
@@impatrickt thanks for the heads up. :) good day to you.
Patrick what state are you from?
I'm in Canada!
Bro is it able on ios slow down 60fps video to 30fps so to have slow mo as on pc editing? Slowing by percentage
Thanks for your video but which one is sharper - moment or sirui?
J M they’re the same
Hi, Does the Sirui have a filter adapter like the Ulanzi and Moment?
Why the flaring is BLUE?
That’s how they coat anamorphic lenses. Moment has a gold one too.
Hi does anyone know what level of iso starts to produce noise in iPhone 11 pro??
Moment lens has a better quality than Sirui, Ulanzii or sandmarc ?
yes
@@impatrickt and Against Moondo glab ?
Very informative video.
Does anyone know if the Sirui clip works with the OnePlus 7t Pro?
SO If you have the budget for all of them
heard moment is not sharp and having much more distortion compared to sirui
they're all fine in different ways. id argue the sirui is too sharp and lacks character that's associated with anamorphic.
@@impatrickt Thanks for the reply....bell and subscribe
Hi mate.
Can you tell if the ulanzi anamorphic lens fits right with iPhone 6s plus???
im sure it does
Does it seems hard to fit Ulanzi lens and u-mount on iPhone 11 pro?
Not at all
@@impatrickt Thank you!
SIRUI is the GIF pronunciation of 2019
It really is the GIFt that keeps on GIFing.
I’ve heard it both ways
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do you used Sirui Neutral Density Filter18WA2NDX for VD-01 Anamorphic Lens ? Want to buy but out of stock at B&H. Do i need adapter to use their ND filter on VD-01 ?
NewWalls98 I don’t use ND’s with my phone I can’t be bothered.
There is a 50 usd 1.33 anamorphic lens on Amazon. You think is it worth the risk? It has good reviews tho
@patrick tomasso i have note 10+ (3lens) in which lens i should use the anamorphic lens? tele? main?
Abraham Lin27 try them and see what you like
I dont ever use the provided lens clips that come with the lens. I make my own case using a step up adapter O ring for the lenses. Especially if it's the ULANZI anamorphic lens. It looks its best when you modify the lens closer to the phone lens and lined up better.
Do you sell it? I would like to try your version
@@_____-ze5ow I don't but ulanzi is actually finally coming out with cases very close to what I made. Look them up. It's great now! But for certain phones.
@@jrod8574 thats abit sad cause yours might be the one that i am looking for. But anyway can you please post a video about it then?
@@_____-ze5ow what I make for myself is a very simple crude design case. Nothing fancy. Anyone can make it.
That's why I recommend checking out ULANZI's new material. They've come out with some REALLY neat stuff since then.
I only make my own mounting cases for phones that I can't find mounting lens cases for.
besides the awesome review video, I like how you made the video exactly 4:20 ;)
SIRUI is actually pronounced "Chi-pote-lay"
Ben Aqua ded
I have to say that the ulanzi will fit on a case or rig and is well presented and the clarity or soft as you mention ion the sign is Mr perfection kicking in and in film, even at the cinema stage who sees that plus your going to watch this on substandard gear, so twice the price or more is Questionable.
'creators' who can't afford a $149 lens. But they can afford a $1000 smartphone.
90% of people get their phones subsidized. nice try being an asshole you did a great job.
Anamurphic 360p gang
stop hacking me
I'm happy with my Ulanzi even more with their newly released filter mount at a good price point
kingboy yeah I don’t really fuck with filters but it’s cool that it’s there. I already have the moment filter set. Never use it.
Thank you ! :)
There is an Anamorphic Lens made 5 years earlier than this counterfeit & cheap copy which the MOMENT company made, and that is from a company called MOONDOGLABS. Not only are the founders Scott and Julie ex-optical engineers from the infamous ZEISS Lens manufacturer Company, but they also have been designing Lenses for professionals for 40 years. Whereas the Moment shop has a couple of skateboard dudes, who have to rely on Chinese optical engineers.
Hence if you would have made a comparison between an "ANA" lens from moondoglabs and this cheap quality MOMENT lens, You would have seen it in a heartbeat, the difference in sharpness and the nicer flares, much less barreling, no vignetting, and so many things more.... I am stunned you do not set your own bar very high at all, by shouting out this is a good lens here. I wont even start with the sandmarc and Ulanzi which are plain horrific lenses. Kapkur (or the mother company richoptics) in China is one of the manufacturer behind those sandmarc and ulanzi lenses by the way...
Patrick,...Up Your Game,... there are just way too many people out there who already know all of this,.... Akos ( www.akosphoto.com )
I disagree
@@impatrickt Why ?
@@romainprovost7164 they made a better lens
its grainy
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Got mine.. and Ulanzi is horrible! r eturning to amazon! a lot lens flare and lens distortions!
Gimbal cannot handle it as well!
I mentioned the flaring and the distortion. I like that retro look but it's not everyone's cup of tea.
I can balance it on the Osmo 3 no problem - which gimbal are you using?
Hehe! 420 :)
Nice review!
sandmarc
they've reached out but im not a fan of their cases or lenses.