Heel-Toe Shifting Lesson In 2 Minutes

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @cozz124
    @cozz124 4 года назад +2192

    Me at 10 pm: wow initial d is some nice anime
    Me at 4 am: how to heel-toe shift

    • @juanmexes1541
      @juanmexes1541 4 года назад +46

      Literally me months ago😂But now I have a Toyota celica that I’m learning how to drive stick on💀

    • @drfanum
      @drfanum 4 года назад +51

      literally what brought me here, i had no idea what the fuck they were doing

    • @konorsga9873
      @konorsga9873 4 года назад +3

      This is exactly how I feel right now. I've been having trouble cuz my legs are too long for a s2k and i hit the bottom of the steering wheel when i try to practice heel toe its really uncomfortable and i cant move the seat back any further :(

    • @msport_erick
      @msport_erick 3 года назад +8

      @@konorsga9873 get a bucket seat installed so you sit lower

    • @sokamw6568
      @sokamw6568 3 года назад

      Hahaha Same here

  • @1lifeonearth
    @1lifeonearth 4 года назад +3536

    You dont need to rev match if you're driving a rental car

    • @spookworm1103
      @spookworm1103 4 года назад +921

      In rental car you can shift without hitting the clutch.

    • @JanSanono
      @JanSanono 4 года назад +109

      spook worm but getting a tiny scratch’ll cost you hundreds of bucks

    • @rajucalvin3569
      @rajucalvin3569 4 года назад +8

      😅😅😅

    • @suanzalal
      @suanzalal 4 года назад +296

      If its a rental car the brakes might be not so good, so if you wanna stop just put in reverse gear. Only works if you're going 60+

    • @rajucalvin3569
      @rajucalvin3569 4 года назад +15

      David 9-A facts

  • @ryanosbourne9945
    @ryanosbourne9945 4 года назад +618

    The most difficult aspect of this technique is application of steady brake pressure. All depends on pedal feel and travel and every car is different. One tip for learners however, is to practice downshifting/Rev matching without using the brake pedal. Get that part sorted out and then gradually introduce use of all 3 pedals! Believe me that helps!

    • @jonmarvicvinarao9149
      @jonmarvicvinarao9149 2 года назад +3

      You just need to do is break first when your turning in the next corner,and just downshift and rev the gas.

    • @proctor9443
      @proctor9443 2 года назад +2

      facts

    • @smokescreen2146
      @smokescreen2146 Год назад +4

      Good luck getting this to work on a standard set of a pedals that are wide apart like 99 % of all cars.

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 Год назад

      @charmingchowder7997 this is the way. There's hardly the need to heel toe and most of us will never be on the track in our lifetimes lol

    • @neonlight1214
      @neonlight1214 11 месяцев назад

      Why brake pedal needs to be presses the entire duration, from beginning to end. I can only see the point on race track when coming ti a corner cause you need to slow down. On public roads do it without pressing brake pedal

  • @Reeferbadnessbeats1
    @Reeferbadnessbeats1 7 лет назад +1774

    Shit, I thought this was about drums, I'm in the wrong part of town

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  7 лет назад +118

      Reefer Badness Beats 😂 I can see the confusion

    • @bryman868
      @bryman868 7 лет назад +20

      Ray Piloto he was stoned off his ass 😂😂

    • @williampierce5579
      @williampierce5579 6 лет назад +45

      Well you're still welcome here if you wanna drive a manual better lol

    • @Nazzran
      @Nazzran 5 лет назад

      @@williampierce5579 what is manual?

    • @Eule153
      @Eule153 5 лет назад

      Yup you are

  • @ssj4david
    @ssj4david 5 лет назад +276

    Easy to watch, but definitely took me several months to do a smooth heel toe. Practice is key

    • @danielskrskr
      @danielskrskr 2 года назад +17

      practice practice practice haha. my first time trying, I couldn't keep consistent brake pressure or I'd blip the throttle too much / too little, I never wanted to try it again haha

    • @BrolySpeedyBoy
      @BrolySpeedyBoy 11 месяцев назад

      Bro several months? It took me 3 hours and i could use it on tracks without problems

    • @jonsnow3176
      @jonsnow3176 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@BrolySpeedyBoy you're so cool. do you want a cookie?

    • @BrolySpeedyBoy
      @BrolySpeedyBoy 6 месяцев назад

      @@jonsnow3176 blud thinks he saved the world with that comment💀

    • @sam-xq2jw
      @sam-xq2jw 5 месяцев назад

      @@BrolySpeedyBoybros been on the tiktok brainrot content💀💀💀

  • @behemothokun
    @behemothokun 7 лет назад +91

    The hardest thing for me was to hold the brake power consistently. Especially since I do that on my commute and don't slam on the brake. Also my gas pedal hangs from the top but luckily is close enough to the brake that I can do this slightly differently by "toe-toeing". over-reving was a problem at first too, but I noticed you get used to it fast how much feel you need.
    I don't even have a sporty car, just a 70hp sub-compact with a manual 5 speed, but it feels so satisfying to do corrently.

  • @Pluvillion
    @Pluvillion 3 года назад +53

    Just got a Logitech G29 w/ the shifter and this is the first video I watched - no extra tidbits, just straight to the point. Thank you sir! I'll try and practice this method on GT Sport!

    • @the-real-big-vic7359
      @the-real-big-vic7359 2 года назад +1

      There's no clutch in gt sport if you upgrade the transmission don't even bother dude

    • @Looeelooee
      @Looeelooee 2 года назад +3

      @@the-real-big-vic7359 theres a clutch on certain cars just not all of them

    • @sbinadero
      @sbinadero 21 день назад

      There's no bite point, so it's not exactly like the real thing. But it should help with the muscle memory and knowing how to do it and all that

  • @Himura
    @Himura 6 лет назад +507

    IF YOU release VERY SLOW THE CLUTCH THE RPM WILL DROP AND YOU HEEL-TOE for nothing

    • @RagicaltheUnhallowedKnight
      @RagicaltheUnhallowedKnight 5 лет назад +23

      Well I'm a layman about this entire thing, but even I noticed his RPM's still dropping during his slow release. It just didn't seem logical if the idea is to keep the RPM up during a shift...

    • @devzcydee462
      @devzcydee462 5 лет назад

      Dude thanks lol i always thought my car would stall

    • @watchout568
      @watchout568 5 лет назад +13

      I dont believe he said VERY SLOW, despite what the video shows I think he just meant not VERY FAST like you might be able to do with a race car transmission. Really just feather the clutch by feel.

    • @leslie7872
      @leslie7872 5 лет назад +15

      @@watchout568 Yea. Because a lot of us beginners find it hard to rev match properly while breaking. Sometimes we rev too little or too much and releasing the clutch to fast or to slow could cause the car to jerk.

    • @intothevortex7825
      @intothevortex7825 4 года назад

      That's what I thought. Also doesn't this increase wear on your brakes?

  • @mauriciovelarde1601
    @mauriciovelarde1601 3 года назад +44

    The tricky thing for me is maintaining the sensitivity /pressure on the braking once I lift my heel. I'm accustomed to braking with my heel on the floor of the car. I guess Ill train first breaking with my foot completely off the floor of the car. Great video, thanks!

  • @supersevenn
    @supersevenn 8 лет назад +904

    dude you are releasing the clutch wayyy too late, the revs are already down when you release. you need to release the clutch as the revs are uppp, thus rev matching. if you are going to teach something, do it right cuz there is always someone thats going to believe you know what your talking about

    • @shifeng4868
      @shifeng4868 7 лет назад +44

      supersevenn Exactly. Rev dropped to the point before blip when he released the clutch

    • @MarcinCebula
      @MarcinCebula 7 лет назад +82

      He over revved and had to wait until the revs dropped before releasing to have a smooth rev-match. Also, the c7 is pretty happy at low rpm, but to each their own

    • @shifeng4868
      @shifeng4868 7 лет назад +15

      Marcin Cebula you can hold the clutch, wait for rpm to drop while slowing down, or you can release the clutch earlier when both speed and rpm are higher. The shifting can be smooth either way, but I don't see the advantage of holding the clutch longer. If the engine is happy at low rpm, why not just shifting later?

    • @zerotohundred
      @zerotohundred 7 лет назад +7

      Marcin Cebula agree with supersevenn because it's in the demo footage as well. It is very late to be honest. The ideal method is all at the same time. That guarantees the perfect sync. Don't mean to offend the author, thumbs up for making educational videos

    • @rlockwood88
      @rlockwood88 7 лет назад +14

      I can promise you Ray Piloto can drive MUCH better than you can...I mean seriously.

  • @smartdrivetest
    @smartdrivetest 7 лет назад +117

    Hi Ray - thanks for the video. I teach new drivers how to drive a manual transmission and some of them believe this is for every day driving. I explain to them--as you did-that this is for racing, and better lap times. Thanks again, Cheers Rick

    • @webweasel4401
      @webweasel4401 6 лет назад +30

      If your teaching drivers, you should also explain that heel & toe means less stress and wear on the clutch and transmission. Its perfectly fine to heel & toe while everyday driving, your clutch and gearbox will last longer as a result. Your giving bad advice dude.

    • @Patrick94GSR
      @Patrick94GSR 5 лет назад +36

      @@webweasel4401 he's not giving bad advice. Heel-toe downshift/rev matching is completely unnecessary except on track/racing conditions where you're near the rev limit coming into a corner. On the street when you're lower in the rev range, you can easily downshift/rev match with a throttle blip BEFORE braking, and then just brake normally and accelerate out of a corner. I can't heel-toe for crap, but I rev match downshift every single time I drive my car.

  • @R.Clayton
    @R.Clayton 8 лет назад +579

    my incompetent ass just tried this, got my foot stuck on the pedal and fucking crashed in a ditch. go me

    • @jaydeville7220
      @jaydeville7220 8 лет назад +3

      +Robert Clayton Hope u had full coverage

    • @JujutsuHeiho
      @JujutsuHeiho 8 лет назад +56

      This is why we can't have nice things

    • @mosin54r2
      @mosin54r2 8 лет назад +1

      👏👏👏👌

    • @R.Clayton
      @R.Clayton 7 лет назад +12

      I did, since apparently you can't read i'll help you. "got my foot stuck on the pedal " thanks to the floor mat. any more questions?

    • @tyler5571
      @tyler5571 7 лет назад +10

      Robert Clayton sure you did bud.

  • @RichardGetzPhotography
    @RichardGetzPhotography 7 лет назад +557

    FINALLY!!! Someone can explain this in under 2 minutes!

    • @georgeboyd4619
      @georgeboyd4619 6 лет назад +11

      I'm starting to get this... Finally

    • @drazenbudis7881
      @drazenbudis7881 6 лет назад +2

      I learned all my friends how to do it.
      You just neeed a good friends really 😂

    • @elmangador7
      @elmangador7 5 лет назад

      I know man

  • @kelkiiii
    @kelkiiii 6 лет назад +14

    I was skeptical that I could understand this concept from a 2 minute video, but you did an awesome job explaining it. thanks a ton

  • @michaelmapp2127
    @michaelmapp2127 7 лет назад +34

    Hey, great video! After watching this I finally got the hang of it! I had been going around Dragon Trail Seaside track in Gran Turismo Sport for hours and as soon as I watched this I managed to shave 4 seconds off my best time after about 4 laps. It really makes a huge difference, thank you!

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  7 лет назад +3

      Michael Mapp nicely done👊🏻

  • @murilovsilva
    @murilovsilva 3 года назад +16

    I would just like to add that if you match the revs correctly, you can release the clutch as fast as you like - that's, in fact, the whole point. You will match the revs with the throttle instead of slipping the clutch, thus saving some serious wear and tear over time. In fact, once you master the matching, you will be able to safely shift without using the clutch at all - ask any truck driver out there. Other than that, excellent video!

    • @edombre4637
      @edombre4637 Год назад +1

      exactly!

    • @eugenecrabs3954
      @eugenecrabs3954 Год назад

      Not necessarily, but not impossible. Trucks have an rpm range from about 550 to 16-2100 rpm. Regular cars have an rpm range of about 650 to 55-8000. With the small rpm range on diesels, it is MUCH easier to match rpms. However, since cars have a larger rpm range, its much more difficult to perform float shifting. But like I said, not impossible.

    • @dougdenton6390
      @dougdenton6390 Год назад +1

      Exactly. There was really no reason for him to heal toe in this video. He had already slow down before he let the clutch out a week late.

  • @edombre4637
    @edombre4637 Год назад +18

    the whole point of heel-toe is to match the revs to the lower gear you are downshifting to - when you do it perfectly, you can release the clutch as quickly as you want. This video totally fails to explain the point of this manoeuvre.

  • @JJJoseJJJ
    @JJJoseJJJ 4 года назад

    out of ALL THE videos on RUclips, much too elongated, this video is direct and straight, concise and explains it perfectly, thank u!

  • @2Msannie
    @2Msannie 8 лет назад +101

    Downshifting helps with deceleration. wouldn't the slow clutch release diminish the optimal effect of downshifting?

    • @Сава1389
      @Сава1389 4 года назад +3

      True,must be faster for another reason too,rev matching,what point is to loose rpm because of slow clutch release like here...

    • @JETJOOBOY
      @JETJOOBOY 3 года назад

      Not if you can't shift gear in the first place .

    • @numerohvh
      @numerohvh 3 года назад

      no, it won't

    • @reubenolney9814
      @reubenolney9814 3 года назад +2

      The limiting factor in deceleration is tire grip. The car's brakes are able to achieve the maximum deceleration on their own, without engine braking, so for the most part a slight decrease in engine braking is not a big deal.

  • @RichyJam2011
    @RichyJam2011 8 лет назад +3

    My friend does this is his BMW Z3M Coupe, although he keeps his heal on the break and swivels his foot blipping the throttle with his toe. Same really just dif technique

  • @JDub33333
    @JDub33333 5 лет назад +20

    This will come in handy when school starts up again😆😆😆

  • @jimmyglea
    @jimmyglea 2 года назад +2

    Finally! I didn’t have to watch a guys face while he explained the process. Great visual demonstration! I’ve been destroying clutches for years, but with my Golf R on the way, I thought I’d better learn how not to.

  • @brandonbentley8532
    @brandonbentley8532 6 лет назад +9

    Great video but like many of the other heal and toe videos on here they don't mention why heal and toe and bring the engine revs up when downshifting. It's to match your revs to the rotation of the transmission so the two mate back up seamlessly and without delay as you reengage the clutch. It also saves your clutch, even in day to day driving.

  • @vebration35
    @vebration35 7 лет назад +2

    Simple explanation ... I like it ...
    Been doing this for years but never really manage to teach it to others ...
    But now I do .. thanks ...

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  7 лет назад

      vebration35 glad it helped! Thanks for the nice comment👊

    • @vebration35
      @vebration35 7 лет назад

      anytime ... 👊

  • @TCHICKIBRAXD
    @TCHICKIBRAXD 7 лет назад +5

    Heel toe in the car, Heel toe in the drum kit... Heel toe everywhere! Heel toe rules!

  • @puddleduck112
    @puddleduck112 10 месяцев назад +1

    Is this really necessary for everyday driving? I always used the downshifting for braking the car to save wear on brakes. You can easily go through turns without ever needing to brake

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  8 месяцев назад

      Not necessary for every day driving. Definitely necessary if you are trying to get the most out of your car on a race track and make it last longer.

  • @edv5918
    @edv5918 8 лет назад +4

    Straight to the point, nice and simple. Thanks, subbed.

  • @TheBluewarriorsheart
    @TheBluewarriorsheart 8 лет назад +1

    Thx pal , quick and eloquent. Hate these vids where guys talk and talk and talk, while actually promoting themselves, not the topic they should talk about ;)

  • @louie111887
    @louie111887 8 лет назад +361

    so....? basically rev matching?

    • @xXMusicAsAWeaponXx
      @xXMusicAsAWeaponXx 8 лет назад +289

      yes. The point of heel-toe shifting is that you can rev match while braking at the same time.

    • @2cool0
      @2cool0 8 лет назад +25

      yeah except it's how ti revmatch while braking. which unless you have three feet you can't do at the same time seperatly.

    • @sportstouringracer
      @sportstouringracer 7 лет назад +57

      easier to do on bike 😅

    • @march11stoneytony
      @march11stoneytony 7 лет назад +7

      I learned how to seamlessly brake/rev match on a bike while still in lessons. A car took me much longer

    • @jo-oy4vj
      @jo-oy4vj 7 лет назад

      too easy m8

  • @ric3kracker52
    @ric3kracker52 8 лет назад +1

    great video and very informative. always had an idea but this cleared it up. Big plus on the brake and gas pedal diagram showing how much pressure (and for how long) your foot puts on it (im a visual learner)

  • @kirkey99
    @kirkey99 8 лет назад +303

    Granny Shifting,
    Not Double Clutching Like You Should

    • @buzzin-hornet
      @buzzin-hornet 8 лет назад +32

      crikey mate Dom, is that you?

    • @BroadcastBro
      @BroadcastBro 8 лет назад +34

      It's a quote

    • @davidgruen7423
      @davidgruen7423 7 лет назад +4

      Maybe I should do I double clutch down shift video, not granny at all!

    • @DaBoomDude
      @DaBoomDude 7 лет назад +5

      unless you are downshifting from 3rd directly to first... which you shouldnt need to do like, ever

    • @Danny94James
      @Danny94James 7 лет назад +1

      Da_Boom you do in Rally...

  • @inupiaqpride
    @inupiaqpride 6 лет назад

    Finally. Short and to the point. THANK YOU

  • @BlueWombat85
    @BlueWombat85 7 лет назад +6

    You miss a pretty important point when attempting heel-and-toe for the first time: make sure you have lots of room behind you, as you have a tendancy to stomp the brakes until you start getting the hang of it. I was close to biting the steering wheel the first few times I did it.

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  7 лет назад +1

      Morten Dalgaard when attempting at slow speeds this can happen. This is a beginners training video, Everyone is going to get slightly different results based on many factors. I will make a note as we are working on doing a full video series that I can make a mention of this possible issue. Thanks for your feedback! It is much appreciated and the only way to make better content.

  • @clt_collector
    @clt_collector 8 лет назад +2

    Thanks for such a simple but detailed video - it clarified a few things for me, especially with your track footage.

  • @powerfultoa7
    @powerfultoa7 9 лет назад +39

    So why does a stock clutch take a slower time to release? Does it have something to do with the flywheel?

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  9 лет назад +36

      It has springs that if not released smoothly will make the car lurch forward.

    • @powerfultoa7
      @powerfultoa7 9 лет назад +9

      +Racers Edge Thanks for the info. By springs, do you mean in the clutch disc itself?

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  9 лет назад +17

      +Caleb Kan
      Yes I do

    • @MeeesterQ
      @MeeesterQ 8 лет назад +1

      +Caleb Kan sometimes it has to do with the clutch fluid or clutch line. in my 2012 mustang gt, the clutch line needs to be upgraded for clutch consistency, the stock line can't handle to heat or pressure and makes the clutch pedal stick to the floorboard.

    • @michaelnichelas2941
      @michaelnichelas2941 8 лет назад

      +Mr. Q try removing the the helper spring on the clutch pedal assembly it's a very common issue your having. Search "clutch spring removal"

  • @PeaceNinja007
    @PeaceNinja007 2 месяца назад

    Ok this is the second video I watch. Idk if I’m downshifting correctly. For sure as hell I’m not heal-toeing. I don’t do that.
    I do this …
    1 - slow down with brake
    2 - blip accelerator to pop gear stick out into neutral
    3- blip accelerator again to rev match IN NEUTRAL
    4 - throw stick in next lower gear.
    It provides me with a clean & smooth downshift. I figured I wouldn’t want to blip the accelerator while my foot is on the clutch.

  • @mcspooney
    @mcspooney 6 лет назад +4

    simplified for all those whom don't get it, its simply revmatching, changing gear while braking, wich in turn will allow you to brake later for corners plus keeps the car allot more stable upon entry of corner.

  • @aky19832001
    @aky19832001 5 лет назад +1

    Great video sir. Honda released a video of the legendary F1 driver Ayrton Senna heel toe work when they were testing the HONDA NSX. Because the gas and break were so close, he was able to roll rather than heel toe. I personally like to roll, but some cars have the gas and break pedal to far apart.

  • @RELOADINGandSHOOTING
    @RELOADINGandSHOOTING 7 лет назад +3

    Awesome straight to the point instruction!!! Thanks!
    Subbed...

  • @lexauz
    @lexauz 7 лет назад

    awesome! quick question tho.... aren't you suppose to put the clutch all the way before braking so you don't transmit the less rotation of the tires to the higher rotation of the gear box?????

  • @tofudelivery8101
    @tofudelivery8101 8 лет назад +39

    Apparently it won't work on the car I'm driving as the throttle is really recessed and far away from the brake

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  8 лет назад +9

      Wong Zuohan that's normal. In Dailey driving it will be difficult but on track you be braking a lot harder brining the brake down closer to the throttle. If you can do it at slow speeds it's easier at high speeds👍

    • @tofudelivery8101
      @tofudelivery8101 8 лет назад +5

      Oh thanks a lot, that clears up why I'm having difficulties. I've just modified the technique to a: Brake, clutch in, blip throttle, brake, clutch out

    • @march11stoneytony
      @march11stoneytony 7 лет назад +1

      Its one of those things that takes a long time then all of a sudden comes second nature

    • @Si1983h
      @Si1983h 7 лет назад +10

      Wong Zuohan alternatively you could invest in a clown shoe for the right foot! 🤣

    • @beenaplumber8379
      @beenaplumber8379 5 лет назад

      @@webweasel4401 Maybe aftermarket shoes for me... My foot is way too big to do heel-toe in my little car, but not wide enough to cover both pedals. My foot slips between them easily. Not good if the whole point is extra stability. Yeah, the clown shoe.

  • @grayboo212
    @grayboo212 8 лет назад +1

    This has to be one of the coolest videos I have ever seen on youtube. Short, to the point, informative, and very well presented. Thanks!

  • @MrSmokinMirrors
    @MrSmokinMirrors 6 лет назад +4

    Anyway you can redo this video and this time do a split camera angle that shows you working the gears and the pedals at the same time?

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  6 лет назад +2

      Jason Hamilton that’s a good idea! I’ll start working on it soon

  • @MrGB1999
    @MrGB1999 3 года назад +2

    How do people avoid over-braking when rolling the foot over? The action of rolling the foot over (for say a 50% braking situation) just ends up with hitting the brakes harder than required = potentially dangerous.
    How is this avoided?

  • @hairglowingkyle4572
    @hairglowingkyle4572 6 лет назад +9

    Takumi's 4 wheel drift

  • @reviewforthetube6485
    @reviewforthetube6485 5 лет назад +1

    See this is how instruction videos should be short and sweet and just makes sense we can figure out the rest in between like why we do it or why we should what I want to see is how to do it and how to do it right and that's what you did thank you for this video sounds stupid but I am looking for sim racing lol but hey uts the same practice as a real car with the way you do it so all good thanks again

  • @woodsyxbl
    @woodsyxbl 8 лет назад +17

    what about his runners? I want them 😂😂😂

  • @pauledwards1157
    @pauledwards1157 Год назад

    I was taught this at the old Bondurant driving school. You can get fairly proficient at it with just a little bit of repetition.

  • @bbsingh7554
    @bbsingh7554 4 года назад +8

    I dont have this type accelerator. Its conncted from top. My foot gets stuck under it and i cant blip...

    • @kkelv
      @kkelv 4 года назад

      Time for a new car

    • @kronix8791
      @kronix8791 4 года назад

      Then doe an actual heel toe this is for cars with the pedal to the floor swivel your back of your foot onto the pedal kinda like this -> \ so the front of your foot is on the gas and the back of your foot is on the gas

    • @kronix8791
      @kronix8791 4 года назад +1

      Right Round yeah but most bmws have it connected on the floor

  • @manfromnantucket9544
    @manfromnantucket9544 8 лет назад +2

    I'm having difficulty in both rolling my foot onto the throttle and extending my heel to reach it. I've found that it's easier for me to press in the brake with my heel and roll the toes onto the gas. Never seen anyone use this technique. Is it viable or should I just learn the more traditional methods?

  • @RealEnglishNow
    @RealEnglishNow 8 лет назад +17

    What is the advantage of using this heel toe method - or rather, why brake when you can just rev match without it? I know this may sound stupid to you pros out there but I really want to know WHY this is a good technique not just how to do it.

    • @JustinLee993
      @JustinLee993 8 лет назад +4

      +Gahechi Esmichi Both techniques are used -- just depending on the situation. It's just that going into corners you're most likely going to be heel-toeing, otherwise you are going into the corner too quickly.

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  8 лет назад +21

      No problem! There are a few reasons,but one big advantage is you can begin to slow the car later using the brake which allows you to stay in the throttle longer. Just imagine traveling at 100mph for 30ft longer than another driver. That is a huge advantage. Using the engine to slow the car has to be done sooner because you have to compensate for the lack of deceleration the engine compression provides. You also and risk over revving the motor which could be catastrophic. Let me know ANY questions you might have. If you have a question l,most likely someone else does as well. They just aren't as brave as you are👍

    • @RealEnglishNow
      @RealEnglishNow 8 лет назад +1

      Justin Lee Thanks for the info!

    • @RealEnglishNow
      @RealEnglishNow 8 лет назад

      Racers Edge This makes a lot of sense to me now - I get the concept of breaking later. Though its probably a little different on a motorcycle - I remember an interview with Valentino Rossi of Moto GP fame where he said that the reason he won a particular race was that he had 'stronger breaking' and I never really knew what that meant but I think he has mastered the motorcycle equivalent of this breaking+clutch breaking technique the same way you describe. Thanks again!

    • @shawnbroz8212
      @shawnbroz8212 8 лет назад

      +Racers Edge Hey bro, did u see my comments upon? I hope u can explain that for me , thanks

  • @bloqk16
    @bloqk16 Год назад

    I've heard about heel-toe since the 1960s, but never saw an illustration of the footwork involved.
    I could have never done this with my first manual shift car, a '67 VW Beetle, as the placement of the brake to the gas pedal would not allow it; as the pivot hinges, for the pedals, were on the floorboard, and not on the firewall.

  • @DeathEgg666
    @DeathEgg666 8 лет назад +3

    oh man this makes me think i should stick to go karts lol

  • @hockeyrocker1172
    @hockeyrocker1172 7 лет назад +1

    Congrats. The first video i've seen that has actually made it click with me.

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  7 лет назад

      Hockeyrocker117 thank you! Tried to make it simple and to the point. Glad to help

  • @BiskviLover
    @BiskviLover 6 лет назад +3

    it took me one month to realise that heel toe downshifting is basically rev-matching while braking.

  • @chimkinnugget5221
    @chimkinnugget5221 Год назад

    Finally starting to get it, Subarus gas pedal is so low man I sometimes can’t tell if I’m even touching the gas but I been trying to avoid getting a pedal riser cuz I wanna get it down the hard way 🤘

  • @greensabr200
    @greensabr200 5 лет назад +3

    I need an Eight-Six and some Tofu

  • @johannesg1475
    @johannesg1475 11 месяцев назад

    This video helped me alot doing screenshots with my car.

  • @JT-jz4ls
    @JT-jz4ls 6 лет назад +3

    How did the Flintstones do that?

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  6 лет назад

      m i s b e h a v e. 😂 yabadabadooo

  • @trojanbitch
    @trojanbitch 5 месяцев назад

    I've been watching all heel and toe tutorial, tomorrow I'm very ready to take my daughter going to school 😎

  • @rafaelalodio5116
    @rafaelalodio5116 7 лет назад +4

    What is the purpose of doing that? I drive about five months since I got my license and I was taught to take my feet out of the gas pedal, press the cluch, change the gear and than start accelerating again and that's what I do when I drive, so why to heel and toe?

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  7 лет назад +3

      Rafael Alódio it's for high performance driving on a racetrack or rally car when using an basic manual transmission.

    • @alexb4409
      @alexb4409 7 лет назад +4

      Just drive normally, If you are asking this question it's safe to say you'll be dangerous to others if trying on a city road.

    • @ReaIDeaI1
      @ReaIDeaI1 7 лет назад +2

      Rafael Alódio racing applications and it has practical applications too. On the road, if I'm approaching a tight corner fast and need second gear, a car doesn't like to go into second quickly. Rather than slow my speed and release the clutch slowly, I'd rather blip the throttle and grab second gear while still maintaining good speed

    • @carscoffeeandcannabis-634
      @carscoffeeandcannabis-634 7 лет назад +7

      I use heel/toe in real world application every day. Think about it this way> You are going 60km approaching a green light in 4th, wanting to make a left (or right depending on which side of the road you drive on in your country). The light turns yellow, so you have to make the turn quickly, but 4th gear is too high. So, to save time, while braking into the corner, you heel toe down to 3rd, then second. Then, as you enter the intersection, you are in the correct gear to pull out of the corner. If you do it correctly, the entire process is very smooth.

    • @carscoffeeandcannabis-634
      @carscoffeeandcannabis-634 7 лет назад +5

      Another example is when you are on the highway, traffic slows down. You brake to slow down with it, and while you brake, you heel toe down to the correct gear for your new speed, that way if traffic starts to speed up, you are in the correct gear to accelerate as well. This situation is where I practiced and perfected heel and toe

  • @r.a.8618
    @r.a.8618 10 месяцев назад

    Looks si cool! How long does it take to master this skill?

  • @ssserg_
    @ssserg_ 7 лет назад +7

    Hey I have those shoes.

  • @doughartwell5319
    @doughartwell5319 4 года назад +1

    So, what if I do this with my heel on the brake and tap throttle with the top of my foot, I can hold smoother braking doing that, should I starting using my heel to blip gas or just do how I’m comfortable

    • @7viewerlogic670
      @7viewerlogic670 4 года назад +1

      I say try it like he shows in the video. It takes a lot of practice!

  • @MFawad-xy4si
    @MFawad-xy4si 7 лет назад +4

    so u basically brake then press clutch and at the same time downshift the gear and simultaneously blip the throttle...

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  7 лет назад +4

      Rip Jawzz exactly! 👊

    • @MFawad-xy4si
      @MFawad-xy4si 7 лет назад +1

      Ray Piloto haha Finally got it!! btw nice vid man!

  • @louiegarcia3255
    @louiegarcia3255 3 года назад +1

    Do u blip the throttle with the clutch all way down? Or when the clutch is at the bite point? Does it matter?

  • @gulraizify
    @gulraizify 7 лет назад +9

    i think this is clutch riding

    • @matietysti
      @matietysti 6 лет назад +12

      riding the clutch is when you keep it on the biting point not when its fully pressed

  • @sooner300
    @sooner300 2 года назад

    Learning this technique to use on my Prius

  • @Vveljac
    @Vveljac 7 лет назад +11

    I always thought Americans can't drive manual, so it's refreshing to see that there are Americans that drive manual better than most Europeans.

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  7 лет назад +1

      Why Thank you sir.

    • @RandomRabbit007
      @RandomRabbit007 7 лет назад +8

      Europeans have an insane amount of preconceived-notions about Americans. Like ridiculous

    • @Vveljac
      @Vveljac 7 лет назад +4

      Why, don't vast majority of Americans drive automatic?

    • @RandomRabbit007
      @RandomRabbit007 7 лет назад +2

      That's true but most "driver-types" drive Manual. Also most old-car/classic-car enthusiasts drive manual. It's not rare at all, but sure not common or majority

    • @Vveljac
      @Vveljac 7 лет назад +1

      I'm glad to know that, driving a manual is much more fun, in my opinion, don't you think?

  • @33lp84
    @33lp84 8 лет назад

    I drive an old school light traction car with an hard turbo lag, actually I use a lot the heel and toe technique ,but also in corners I use my left foot for braking and manage the understeering.

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  8 лет назад

      I have a couple videos of in-car footage during a rally if you'd like to see some examples incorporating left foot braking with heel and toe.

  • @194Easy
    @194Easy 7 лет назад +3

    Basically you did it wrong! Every single time!

    • @VG-Motors
      @VG-Motors 7 лет назад

      Explain us, he did it okay, 1.Brake 2.Clutch 3.Downshift 4.Bleep the gas pedal 5. release the clutch.
      think before posting a comment.

  • @mrorganic13
    @mrorganic13 7 месяцев назад +1

    So you racing people , can you explain the benefits of this rather then just knowing the rpm range of your gears? Driving my mini cooper s and also the only manual I’ve driven , I usually can just go to a lower gear if need be while slowing down with no stutter or anything and full responsiveness at the pedal thru the whole thing . This seems unnecessary to me with my set up but maybe I’m missing something, coming to a light I hit the brakes and when I wanna take off just from driving the car I know what gear I need for what speed and don’t need any rev matching. Would perfecting this technique give me “even more” responsiveness even tho i feel I don’t. Loose any as is? (I do know how to rev match, learned in my motorcycle a while back and it carried over to the mini, dropping two gears would be more fun if I wasn’t scared ide bend a connecting rod every time 💀💀)

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  7 месяцев назад +1

      The benefit of this would only really be applicable to driving on a track. However, it doesn’t mean you can’t practice while daily driving. With extreme caution of course!

  • @vidiupload4174
    @vidiupload4174 3 года назад

    Excellent video of the feet and the explanation of how to heel and toe. It would have been nice if the audio matched the video, though. The sound followed the footwork by what seemed like almost a second.

  • @fkporsche1
    @fkporsche1 7 лет назад +1

    👍🏻👍🏻 very good tutorial.(slow motion really help on the foot work). You have one of the best hell and toe practice video. 🦅🦅🇺🇸

  • @JohnCunningham-sy5ug
    @JohnCunningham-sy5ug 3 года назад

    Good idea to learn this technique albeit it is not necessary for 99% of your driving we used to have to double clutch manual transmissions in automobiles because of the lack of synchronizers now that's a discipline that still required in large commercial vehicles well at least ones with manual transmissions hahaha I'm a retired truck driver after 41 years I would gladly left because of the automatics that were appearing on the scene.
    Manual transmissions require a little insight and experience to operate efficiently and when you can learn that they're really fun I got a big kick out of pulling hills with a 600 horsepower caterpillar coupled to a 15 speed transmission always fun to drive if you approach it with the attitude that you're going to do it safely and efficiently.

  • @angelkings7422
    @angelkings7422 5 лет назад

    Makes me go on to a track now looks easy now that you put it this way

  • @johnnyversaci7091
    @johnnyversaci7091 3 года назад +1

    So it's just for braking basically?

  • @dominicfischio851
    @dominicfischio851 Год назад

    i’ve been driving stick my entire life for 40 years & i drive a stick 2003 tacoma, and i have never done heel toe. it’s fine if you do it, but definitely is not necessary. also, i rarely downshift - it lengthens the life of the clutch. save the manuals! 🙌🏻

  • @monilvalia9425
    @monilvalia9425 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks, u did explaining so clearly.

  • @beenaplumber8379
    @beenaplumber8379 6 лет назад

    Absolute novice here - Why "blip" the throttle? If you are braking before, during, and afterwards, leaving the throttle alone (as in street driving) will result in additional braking force from engine drag. It this about not losing traction from that extra drag on the tires? You did an excellent job of explaining what, but why?

    • @beentheredonethat6885
      @beentheredonethat6885 5 лет назад

      Blipping the throttle will match the speed of the gearbox output to the speed of the engine, making the gearchange much smoother. Sudden changes in axle speed will risk initiating a non-controlled slide. This is because dynamic friction is less than static friction. With practice, it is quite possible, even easy, to change gear without using the clutch at all. Practice first by just pulling the stick out of gear towards, but not into, the lower gear with a gentle pressure. Raise the revs until the car gently accepts the lower gear. This is how you practice and get a "feel" for the gearbox and engine response. Don't try to be quick at first. When you've got the knack, go back to using the clutch but keep using the revs adjustment. Now try braking and rocking your foot to the accelerator at the same time, to adjust as you slow down. Once you have mastered this, you may then start to actually, deliberately release the clutch fiercely on bend entry in order to induce slide and/or rotation, but that's next grade.

    • @beenaplumber8379
      @beenaplumber8379 5 лет назад

      @@beentheredonethat6885 I like the way our username puns go together ;-) But thanks for the explanation. It makes sense that the extra surge of drag I cause by letting the clutch out during downshifting without blipping the engine could lead to catastrophic loss of traction in a race car that lives at its traction limits. I can see how that could be much more serious during braking into a curve. I was trying to understand why it might be mechanically hard on the car not to do the heel toe thing, but I see it's a control issue, not a mechanical one. That's a relief, because I was concerned about adding undue wear to my brand new road car. I'm rarely near traction limits where this would come up, though I do live in Minnesota, and when we have an icy snowstorm (like we did tonight), it might be a useful precaution to learn.
      I think of racing when I find myself in those conditions. Tonight I was thinking about a race where they were talking about Earl Bamber's hands being relaxed on the wheel as he cornered. If I find myself suddenly on a very slippery section of road, I have a very short wheelbase, and I can't allow it to get sideways. In such a little car, I don't know if I could recover soon enough, but I realized that I was gripping the wheel tightly, and I was likely to over-control any recovery attempt I'd have to make. It took a lot of practice in my old compact SUV to catch and correct an over-steer. I feel at a disadvantage because the new car has all kinds of ABS, TC, anti-skid (I don't know if that's different from ABS & TC), and some sort of stability computer that controls the wheels individually. I have no idea how this car handles during a skid, and I haven't been able to induce one at a safe speed in an open space. All that safety stuff makes me feel somehow less safe.

    • @beentheredonethat6885
      @beentheredonethat6885 5 лет назад

      @@beenaplumber8379 Next time it snows, get yourself to a large, empty car park and find the limits of your car. Take your reaction from the cerebral to the instinctive. Practise, practise, practise.

  • @1014-x5q
    @1014-x5q 3 года назад +2

    Still don't get it, why would you throttle/accelerate when you're downshifting as the purpose is to decelerate for whatever reason?

    • @arcanevoid9199
      @arcanevoid9199 3 года назад

      to match the revs, when you clutched in rev wont speed up the car

  • @Fishyxstick
    @Fishyxstick 7 лет назад +1

    thanks for the video, makes it seem a bit easier.

  • @Hockeysktr17
    @Hockeysktr17 8 лет назад

    Best Heel toe video I've seen. Lots of repetition, displaying an actual good place to use it, and data on how much pressure you're using. Awesome! Only thing missing is a camera on you shifting, but not super important.

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  8 лет назад +1

      I did post a video of real race/rally footage of using heel toe and left foot braking together. It shows shifting as well😃

  • @vIMONST3RIv
    @vIMONST3RIv Год назад

    People that can’t seem to keep consistent brake pressure, make sure the clutch is disconnected BEFORE swinging heel across, if you swing your heel across before disconnecting clutch, naturally the car will lurch forward anyway because it will gain abit more momentum, that’s what’s catching you out

  • @MaxPower-rp4qo
    @MaxPower-rp4qo 7 лет назад

    Hi Ray, great explanation! Question: While brake and clutch is pressed; does it matter if you first blip throttle and then change gearlever to lower gear and then release clutch OR can you first move gearlever in lower gear then blip throttle and release clutch. Or does it not matter? Thx!

    • @MaxPower-rp4qo
      @MaxPower-rp4qo 7 лет назад

      Ow, I now see in the video that you mention "blip & shift at the same time" so there's my answer. Doesn't it mess with the synchro's when you simultaneously blip throttle and change gear or am I searching it too far?

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  7 лет назад +1

      Max Power it should not effect your synchros any more than normal wear and tear. 👍

  • @ДенисШагаев-л4в
    @ДенисШагаев-л4в 6 месяцев назад

    Когда перегазовку делаешь с педали тормоза и быстро на газ, там на пониженную передачу нужно переключаться, или на повышенную?

  • @MrCapi55
    @MrCapi55 7 лет назад +1

    Concise, practical, and "on the field" demo. My kind of learn. Thank You Ray Piloto.
    Simple curiosidad. ¿Porqué lo de "Piloto"?
    ¿Eres Latinoamericano Ray?.

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  7 лет назад +1

      se,soy mexicano/cubano! Gracias por tu "feed Back".

  • @drongojonkins8945
    @drongojonkins8945 7 лет назад +1

    Its tricky doing it smooth though. I always fuck up my brake pressure. I had an injury to my right foot when i was a kid though - limited movement, some tendons non-existant.
    Could do it in previous cars though.

    • @TheMoreliShow
      @TheMoreliShow 7 лет назад

      drongo jonkins Yeah, I've been trying to practice this, and I have problems with my ankle. Kinda seeming impossible right now.

  • @themekanikaze5488
    @themekanikaze5488 7 лет назад

    The rev matching or Heel and Toe it is to help to sincronize the Engine with Gearbox, and care the all transmision system and of course the sincronizer. But to get it, you should to make double clutch, one its to leave the gearbox in neutral and next press gas to make rev match incluide the gearbox and next make clutch again to put the speed required. Of course all this while u are breaking.Without doble cluch you are forcing the sincronicer and clutch.

  • @kinstar
    @kinstar Месяц назад

    Heel toe when it's done right feels so good

  • @msbrownbeast
    @msbrownbeast 3 года назад

    How do you maintain even brake modulation if the heel of the foot is lifted entirely off the floor and resting on the brake pedal only while blipping the gas if the car in question has very sensitive (i.e. over-assisted power brakes)? Wouldnt it be better to keep the heel planted on the floor and just pivot the foot instead?

  • @kamenballer
    @kamenballer 6 лет назад

    Damn. I really want to learn how to drive, I only tried to drive a car once, it's a like my 1st hands-on training or something when my uncle let drive his old car. lol I really enjoy it a lot but too many mistakes. I need to enroll to a driving school next month.

  • @stuntman014
    @stuntman014 4 года назад +1

    2:08-2-12 100% Truth, practice makes perfect.

  • @fkporsche1
    @fkporsche1 7 лет назад +1

    I should of learn this heel and toe when I was younger. At the time, I had a BMW 325e, the clutch engage a longer distance vs. Japanese car. I bought a ND Miata now to learn this practice. It's a bit easier but I still need a lot of practice. I agreed, the sportier car like my GT3RS, single fly wheel rev quick and rpm comes down quite quick. Hard to practice for older beginner. 😄 I have repeatedly watch your video. Then I will practice from higher gears 4th to 3rd first. 3rd to 2nd seems to be more difficult. Cheers 🍻

  • @Spinks345
    @Spinks345 8 лет назад +2

    First of all, thank you for making this video. Best video out there, and I watched it profusely as I worked on this technique (sometimes pulling over in frustration, watching, then going back at it), and I have improved greatly to the point where I'm doing it consistently during normal dtd driving. Excellent.
    My question is, do you typically heel toe down multiple gears on the track? For example, beaning along in 5th gear and it's a hard turn you want to be in 2nd for. Do you go 5-4-3-2? Or 5-2? I've gotten better, but I'm still not all that quick about it, and it's a load of pedal dancing to row down 3 gears. I don't know how much 'faster' I'm going to get, and I don't really see it as all that necessary to hit gears in sequence on the way down. Thoughts?

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  8 лет назад

      That's awesome!! I'm glad to help. And Thank you for those kind words. I'm releasing a new video in the coming weeks. I hope it helps.

    • @PorterB92
      @PorterB92 8 лет назад +3

      +Racers Edge Great reply to his question...

    • @NeesanSkyrineR33
      @NeesanSkyrineR33 8 лет назад

      +Brock lol'd

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  8 лет назад +2

      Ops, sorry I only saw the first paragraph on my phone. When we shift from 5 to 2 we call that skip shifting.It's more efficient and your working less! However,it's really important to make sure you need 2nd first of all ( I find a lot of drivers over slowing down shifting to 2nd) and if you do, you need to make sure your not going to 2nd to early. Maybe go from 5-4-3-2 and see exactly where in the braking zone you're going to 2nd. That will help define where to make the shift.Typical, I split the distance from wherever I start braking to where I turn in for let's say a 4-3 downshift. So. Going to 2nd is going to be done just before turn in.usually.(there's a lot of grey area since there's so many different corners).

    • @raypiloto568
      @raypiloto568  8 лет назад +1

      +Brock yeah I totally didn't read the whole thing... Lol. Sorry

  • @jdmlover0692
    @jdmlover0692 5 лет назад

    Thanks man wondering how it worked btw what’s your intro and ending theme I love it it’s awesome

  • @MadelnMachines
    @MadelnMachines 7 лет назад

    How do you know how much to 'blip' the throttle? How many extra RPM do you need or if just a tap fine?

  • @elpelavacas707
    @elpelavacas707 2 года назад

    Is heel-toe shifting more indicated towards people who drive on the track or for daily driving as well?

  • @W333dm4n
    @W333dm4n 4 года назад

    I started downshifting like this in my wrx i over rev almost every time and I dont think I press on the brakes long enough but it doesnt seem that hard just gotta get the muscle memory down.

  • @ethanfernandes7687
    @ethanfernandes7687 4 года назад +1

    What is the benifit of this? Smooth down shifting? When should this method be used?