Fan reaction to Manchester United potentially moving stadium
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Manchester United fans discuss reports that Sir Jim Ratcliffe could leave Old Trafford for a new stadium.
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Glazers done more damage to old trafford than the Germans did in 1940
whoa there xD
😂
Comparing Glazers to Nazis.. a bit over the top😅
joke >>> you@@simonbrooks399
@@simonbrooks399 Its called a joke you air head
Old Trafford has so much history i dont think anyone should change unless they play in the same stadium but they increase the seats
We need to stop living in the past that’s all it is memories, we need to move forward and build our future.
did you watch the video, they said that there are limitations to how they can expand which is the whole point of looking to build a new stadium.
100% need to start from the ground up. A renovation would cost almost as much and wouldn't be nearly as good as a rebuild. I do think the fans should have some input into the design. Don't want a stadium that looks like Wembley. It must still remind us of Old Trafford and our history in some way.
Every historical stadium or arena have been through major renovations. Look at Madison Square Garden. If they didn't renovate, that arena would be rotted down to bits. You want to go to a match in a rotting stadium?
@@AK-gs8mw United's history is what makes us.There are fans who have spread the ashes of their loved ones on that pitch. Keep that stadium and redevelop it like Real Madrid is doing. The feeling that you get when you're there, like Cantona have said the ghosts of the players from the past, its true. I'm not from Manchester, I'm from India. Have been a United fan for 24 years now, right from the time I started watching football. I lived in Manchester for a few months and the first thing I did when I landed in Manchester was to visit Old Trafford. The feeling that you get, it's overwhelming. I literally rememeber saying to my friend, this is where the Busby babes kicked the ball. He had no idea about football but even he felt proud when I explain ro him what United is all about. I don't know man, its a feeling like your ancestral home being kicked down and being replaced by a posh villa. Of course, the villa is better, but will it have the same emotions associated with it.?
Should build it in Ireland or London to be nearer to their fanbase
How many hours did it take you to think up that one?
The Biggest Club in The World Bound to have Supporters All Over The World
What? a big majority of Manchester is red
LMAO@@CorinMusic2012
@@Lipsymipsytipsymanchester is blue.
There was a plan to implement an actual railway into the structure of Old Trafford, and it looked amazing as well. Why can't they do that?
Isn’t there a station in the ground? I remember going there once and getting off the train and going straight into the stadium, avoiding all the atmosphere
I recall it has something to do with the surrounding property ownership including some kind of luxury home neighborhood
Half the point of a football game is walking up to the grounds and charging up the atmosphere
Sir Jim bought the very first land Rover and then restored it not to mint condition it was a sympathetic restoration. The same should apply here Old Trafford has to much history to lose.
How apt, comparing it to a clapped out Land Rover.
@@brianshockledge3241 what you don't understand is Sir Jim then went and drove the land rover across the gobi desert for a month without breaking down once. Proving that although aomthin might be old with a bit of TLC it can create stories and memories again. Just like old Trafford could.
@@brianshockledge3241I wonder if the landy had a leaky roof.
That's according to your sentimentality (I'd be sad too leaving such an iconic & historic ground). However technical precedence should take priorities over anything. Let's stop this sentimentality fc mindset that have left this club rotting in the dust for over a decade now.
Of course if renovating Old Trafford turns out to be enough, I would 100% support that decision.
@@biggusotongus1121 you are right it is sentiment Old Trafford is a ground that's go such a history it would be criminal to lose it.
This cost would be similar to Wembley Stadium but be more over the increase of the wages of the construction workers. Even if they move the stadium to the carpark. Manchester United need to buy extra carpark space for the extra fans coming to the club.
The cost of a new stadium would be insane
@@fintanduffyableagreed. We've seen cost overruns on past large stadium builds of 80-100%. We're already talking about numbers of £1.2-1.5Bn for a new stadium. It is a huge financial risk. We are talking about the most expensive club stadium build in world football at a time when the club already has significant debt and the Glazer parasites are still there.
The Owners were the ones who stop the Original project by using the excuse of the rail track complications. As stated previously, the design has already been laid out for completion of the stadium by original designers, to finish before the train track but the owners compromised by installed the 3rd tier cos the fans were complaining about the capacity at that time.
Alls well we like to think that once the owners depart or bring in SJR and his team we can address the layout for the necessary expansion of the South stand, East & West quadrant issue ASAP because Wembley or Man City's Etihad is to far to deal with the fan base, we're sure that can be achieved with minimal fuss, going by our walk around the stadium experience by observation.
Take Note: The Stadium Expansion Should Not Exceed the Railway Track!
We feel in 18 month to 2 years by copying Real Madrid approach with the right people it can be achieved in line with progress on the pitch!
Please Share!
There isn't enough room to build another tier because of the railway. They can't build over it because they don't own all the houses on the other side of it.
@@johnmccadden9963 Well Said. We want an Expansion to approx 90K capacity, Modern refurbishment & a Levelled Retractable New Roof!
There's an completed stadium design on WHF!🔰@UtdWesleyy with a comment stating:
So apparently we are looking at an expansion of Old Trafford. It’s been talked about for years but put off because of the complications around the south section of the stadium but if we do manage to do it…🔴 2 Tier SBC Capacity: 88,000+
We're sure that can be achieved with minimal fuss by observation cos its already laid out going by our walk around the stadium experience. The Stadium Must Not Exceed the rail way track!
Worth a view, please share!
@@johnmccadden9963 Well Said. We want an Expansion to approx 90K capacity, Modern refurbishment & a Levelled Retractable New Roof!
There's an completed stadium design on WHF!🔰@UtdWesleyy with a comment stating:
So apparently we are looking at an expansion of Old Trafford. It’s been talked about for years but put off because of the complications around the south section of the stadium but if we do manage to do it…🔴
2 Tier SBC Capacity: 88,000+
We're sure that can be achieved with minimal fuss by observation cos its already laid out going by our walk around the stadium experience. The Stadium Must Not Exceed the rail way track!
Worth a view, please share!
@@johnmccadden9963they can build over it so the trains run underneath the south stand through a tunnel
And they could extend the tracks to spur off and start to travel high up and do a circuit around the stadium so the passengers can have a complete visual tour of the Stadium and learn about its history from 1910 through WW1 and WW2 bombing up until those charlatans bought the club with stolen money
It would be a match day experience for those not keen on Glory Hunting Football but we're train enthusiasts
And on the Trains the passengers would be allowed to wave from the windows at the fan in the stadium
@@johnmccadden9963 I thought the mayor of manchester said they were all in with what Manchester United would want to do with their stadium. And this is not a surprise because if Old Trafford is renovated and the capacity of the stadium is increased (even in the railway side) then it profits the city of manchester too as Old Trafford/Manchester United is a huge asset for the city in terms of tourism and so forth.
Very easy thing to say to get the fans on side when you know it won't realistically happen for at least a decade.
yeh image the highlight of Utd's season being talk about moving the stadium..literally just to drum up sentiment.
It's good time 2 turn old Trafford into New Trafford
It’s Owed Trafford
nah it’s too much. the amount of work needed to get Old Trafford to world standards is gonna cost way more than a new stadium. it’s not just gonna be a simple £800m
@@onouphriossimple not true, teams like Chelsea and Liverpool have proven that. Using a cantilever system to fix the south side issue, and a renovation of the internals would cost £1bill - £1.2bill. Ripping down and rebuilding would cost £2bill+
Like that @@robertmclellan3658
Old Trafford is a suburb of Manchester, New Trafford isn't
I'll be honest in saying I've never been to Old Trafford, I've always wanted to go and if I had the chance I would go in a heartbeat. I honestly don't want Manchester United to leave Old Trafford because I don't see how the team and the fans could say goodbye to the place. It's like leaving the only home you've ever known after living there all your life, so many memories, so many moments good or bad, everything there in that place is almost impossible and breaks your heart to leave behind.
Fan from London?
@@tufael2965original
Honestly, Old Trafford is one of the worst stadiums I've been to. You have to sit at an angle as there's no room for your legs in front of you. Everywhere is leaking. Just horrible. It's a 75,000 stadium that should probably be 50,000.
@@tufael2965 original
@@richcymru3976 It does need some serious work. Lowering the capacity though is a bad idea because the demand for tickets is high enough as it is. All the major matches sell out pretty quickly and it's incredibly difficult to get a seat if you're not a season ticket holder. If anything the club would benefit from increasing the capacity because of the high demand.
4:27 "you can't renovate that'...
Yeah what a dumbass
There is no need for the move.. a great engineering and architectures can double or triple the parking lot underground and increase the capacity to 90-100k while making the railway station beneath the stairs and direct entrance from train to the station...
You're an engineer I take it?
They need to integrate the train station and old trafford. it would be sick. Will be a stadium ready for a world cup
Not to mention making it easier for the tourists...sorry fans to get there.
@@brianshockledge3241 wdym it makes no difference tourists do drive in england as well.
@@benballerdidthechain9095 Many of which make their way to Salford and old scaffold.
Wembley is the only place in England where a World Cup final should be played.
I’d love to see a new stadium. But I’d also love to see a slight resemblance and homage to Old Trafford.
The record attendance of a game played at old Trafford was a game betweenWolves and Grimsby how many other clubs have had the record attendance in a game that didn’t include them in.
Are u mad? Man utd is sold out every week
@@junaidamin5137 can’t you read? They said the record attendance.
@@Dude0000 so old trafford has 75,000 max capacity, wouldnt sold out mean the same as record attendance u idiot?
@@Dude0000 The funny thing is the highest ever home attendance in the history of the English football league is held by Manchester City and 2nd place is Chelsea with Manchester United in 3rd place and the match was played at Maine Road so according to the hater’s who say that city and Chelsea has no fans are the top 2 and the highest attendance to watch Manchester United at home is a match that was played at the noisy neighbours stadium in the season old Trafford was being rebuilt as a result of the war. I have not counted a match in the season Tottenham played at Wembley because it was the national stadium and not a domestic league ground.
up the wolves
And they say Daniel levy didn’t do anything for spurs… truth is ronaldo would have preferred spurs training facilities even though no trophies
What has training facilities got to do with the stadium?
@@Art-is-craft they fall under the umbrella of “ investing in the club “
Forget new stadium at the moment focus on the team and transfers and the manager
And find someone who knows how to cook chicken.
@@robertmclellan3658 yes and beef
Focus on your team. Let the owners worry about that.
@prakashm1468 lol I support Man Utd mate
This isn’t a troll of Utd but Ronaldo did mention the need for a much needed stadium upgrade and He was absolutely blasted for that…New Or renovated the stadium (and even the club) is due for an upgrade (and a facelift).
Ronaldo wasn’t battered for stating the obvious. Ronaldo was battered for storming off from ETH and crying to Piers Morgan of all people.
Problem is if the stadium is limiting their funds this has a huge impact overall. There is a reason many new stadiums in europe are upgrading such as tottenham or the Bernabaeu in madrid. They are starting to opt for multiroll stadiums which allows the stadiums to be used for other projects such as gigs and other sports like NFL. This brings in a hell of alot more money each week. More money equals more modern equipment in training grounds, money for transfers etc. Perhaps if they rebuild they could leave the Bobby Charlton stand up and refurbish it into a Manchester united memorbelia museum or something like this. So the History of the theatre of dreams remains and the club can continue to to grow without being hampered by its historical stadium.
role not roll
With the railway line, they can make a tunnel as they have been buying the house next to it for years..
Let's go united ❤❤
Why not move it to Wembley? Most of their fans live in the area!
Most United fans live around the world considering the relatively INSIGNIFICANT numbers of British fans... watdu suggest now?
Mind your own small irrelevant club business mate.
Because their home stadium sells out where it is...go figure 😊
@@rohitrevankar7674 Middle of the Atlantic Ocean?
Only Newcastle have more season ticket holders living within a 10 mile radius and they have no choice.
They can build a tunnel like for the train to go through and make it part of stadium and construct over it for the new seat area and other things needed to upgrade.. This will be iconic and one of a kind🤔🤔🤔. A complete renovation on all 4 sides and make it look more vivid and it might cost less.
That's what I was thinking.
that will cost too much money and will need so many permits and approval stamps....
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@@MihailBFC well like they are going to use our money lol.
@muanpuiarenthlei8113 is not only about money, is about the time that will take to get the permits to build that tunnel
What in the town planning meeting is this?
Old Trafford is full of history but many stadiums have been filled with history and moved into the current era. As sad as I would be to see old Trafford go, United need to do something to bring it into a new world and create more magic. Ronaldo spoke about how far behind we are so we need new training facilities, stadium. New mentality and hit the refresh button to create a new legacy moving forward
Yeah but no club has history lile United & im a villa fan... The busby babes played there, george best, Law, cantona ... The liat is endless, the energy at OT comparws to know where in england... From a villa fan
@@czntv1046man city better
2Bn to have a brand new stadium that brings in a greater revenue than current OT.
Or spend £500m to upgrade a south stand- with an increased capacity- increase matchday revenue- but ongoing costs to maintain upkeep on a decaying old building
But while a brand new stadium makes sense- can it be Wembley of the North? Is the commercial opportunity possible in Manchester vs London?
Eg would the NFL play there in a brand new tech savvy stadium? Or should it try an Anfield renovation? Just to increase matchday revenue only?
I'm pretty sure the current stadium also replaced some earlier stadium and people back then were like "nooo you can't do that there's too much history!!"
Stadium changes are part of history. Getting a better stadium only adds to it, it doesn't remove any of it.
Obviously we would love to have the stadium rennovated, but if that is not possible with the state of the stadium then yes a new one has to be built
Lots of local fans interviewed - not!!!!
In fact they are locals, England is region of Pakistan.
I Hope they dont just turn it into a generic design like many other modern stadiums. It needs to have some character and history
Their problem is that train line, it's really hampered growth. I don't know if they could cantilever over it or something, but it wouldn't be cheap and they'd need major permissions. It's the main line between Liverpool and Manchester, so closing it for any length of time would be a massive issue. I'm a Liverpool fan, but even I would find it sad if they lost all that history, even more so if they' gained 20,000 seats lol. The rebuild does seem the unsentimental obvious choice, but sentiment matters a lot, and I'm so glad Liverpool didn't go for a rebuild.
i've been saying for years that a rebuild in the wharfside / europa way triangle would be epic.
Why skysports doing research on this, the space availability will depend on the council or municipality and the Aechitects whome gonna design this.
well if u do some reading…. the council and mayor said they can do what they want lol…. they own the land… and wil make a bigger attraction and make more jobsb
Trafford council
Manchester United OWN most of the land on Trafford park. Easy to do😂
We need a 100,000 capacity stadium if it is possible
Ld Trafford can be increased to 100000 or 90000 easily without creating billions of debt.
Put some safe standing in to increase the capacity. There is too much history to contemplate moving.
United should have a 100,000 seater stadium with top class facilities for fans, and the question should then be, is that achievable via redevelopment of OT?
If not, then a new build slightly further over on same site would be the next best thing.
The major downside of redevelopment would be the reduced capacity during refurb, which would impact FFP, and ultimately hinder what could be spent on transfers.
I've supported United for 40 years, and have had season tickets for about 20 years, I understand why people are sentimental about keeping OT, but redevelopment ultimately means tearing the whole lot down and building new, only difference is it will be done in stages.
If your house burnt to the ground, and insurance built you a new one in exactly the same spot, would it be the same house, would your memories/history of your old house transfer to the new one just because it was on the same spot, rather than 100m away?
United's history won't be lost, but settling for an inferior stadium for sentimental reasons may massively impact on the clubs ability to create new history going forward.
I think the idea of keeping OT whilst building a new one beside it and then moving into that one sounds amazing. Creating a village similar to Manchester City, time to get with the times.
Kind of like what tottenham did
Terrible idea... I dont want us to be like Manchester City🤮. You can't buy the history fools
New stadium next to the current one makes sense. United always had the best and biggest stadium but times have moved on. Better facilities and fan experience are paramount. Current seats are very narrow. Having visited the new Spurs ground, they are night and day. Renovating the current ground and building over the railway would also be very expensive and really not deliver. As long as we stay where we are it is time to keep the heritage but look forward, not back.
I don't understand why anyone thinks it's much more expensive to renovate the current stadium than to build a new one. Building Spurs stadium at current prices of raw materials and excluding site cost would cost over 1.5Bn. Utd would want a bigger stadium than Spurs but probably won't care about some of the NFL specific features of the ENIC stadium. Numbers such as £1.2-1.5Bn are being thrown out but let's assume Ratcliffe can leverage his existing construction contracts to agree an initial figure closer to a 1.2 Bn than 1. 5Bn. That's the best case scenario and numbers are still huge. The worst case scenario is the new stadium ends up costing 80-100% more, which will impact the club's ability to finance the squad for years. It would not the first time in the last 2 decades that a stadium build has gone over 80% over estimate. Spurs, Wembley, Bernabeau renovation etc all went massively over budget.
Perhaps the revenue model will change such that football clubs can get more cash from streaming etc but that wouid require an end to the redistributive nature of the Premier League deal. UEFA and the FA do not want this to happen. Merely adding another 15k seats in a nicer stadium will take years to chip away at those debt levels. Utd's current match day revenues are abiut 137Mn. It is conceivable a new 90k mega stadium could do over £200M per year in its first year. But Utd have relied on March day revenue to fund transfers so if we end up with £2.5-2.8Bn of debt out of this new build and including existing debt, we will spend every penny of match day revenues on debt servicing.
Real Madrid's stadium renovation has been closer to a complete rebuild while keeping the ground of the Bernabeau. Structural and cosmetic works have transformed the stadium info something much more modern and with a higher capacity of 84k. Getting extra capacity was tough for Madrid because the current stands were fully developed, unlike Old Trafford. They increased the height and changed the tiering of the stadium. The total spend will be close to £1.2Bn. This was way over budget due to raw materials cost increases but it would have been much worse if it was a complete rebuild.
The financial advantage of building a new stadium is the ability to keep fans attending a capacity old Trafford during a multi year construction project. The downsides are the state Old Trafford will be in by the time the new stadium is ready (may not even be safe to run at capacity), the massive additional cost, and the loss of a historic ground.
It's a tough call. I'm happier Ratcliffe is there because he's much more canny than the Glazers but building a Wembley of the North is the most ambitious project any football club in the world could consider right now.
I love how many people back the idea of renovating OT because yeah it honesty does have too much history, it’s in comparison to stadiums like Anfield, the bernabeau & camp nou in terms of legacy. If we were to renovate it to make it surpass even those clubs we would be the most unshakable, indomitable club in world football again. And the fans would love and appreciate INEOS and co more than ever if they went ahead with this decision.
Man Utd have never been the biggest club. They’ll never overtake Real Madrid on that front.
@@gmac673 who said that
Not when they realise what footing the bill for it will do to any aspirations of winning another title in the next ten years.
Moving isn’t an issue! Newton Heath was in North rd, so been moved before
Centrally obviously, Birmingham perhaps much easier for their support to attend games.
@brianshockledge3241 I am a red Mancunian, as are my family and friends. So shut up
Theres so much history at that stadium,it cannot be moved.We'd be just like the rest of them if we moved even if it was just a few hundred yards.
*cough* Anfield *cough*
@@rocketmonty9916 inhalers,enough said.
@@patrickmalone1902 still a more iconic stadium than old toilet
@@rocketmonty9916 What a childish comment,hows the weather in norway today,or is it Wales?.
@@patrickmalone1902 Quebec Canada. Bit nippy and about 30cm snow everywhere. But unlike the Brits, the Canadians just get on with it and the country doesn't shut down over 3 snow flakes
Re build the ground using new and old part of the stadium ❤😊
We need it
Demolish it, play games elsewhere for a couple of years, build the baddest future proof stadium the world has ever seen on the land that’s already there.
Replace demolish with renovate
Replace build with refurnish
And replace future proof with Theater Of Dreams
And you got a plan
Dennis Violets ashes are buried and scattered in the Goalmouth of the stretford end ! So we are not happy about OT being knocked down !
Sadly most of the Morons who are screaming for old Trafford to be torn down don't have a clue who he is
Dennis Violet ? Yea only a Manchester United legend and one of the greatest players the team has ever had a survivor of the Munich Air Disaster
Sir Jim is putting considerable effort in restoring Manchester United . Hopefully It all works out
I loved how there was a variety of accents from those fans. But not one manc accent 😂
I'm born bred East London live 10 minutes away from London stadium (home of west ham united) but I support the red half of Manchester.
@@JalalUddin-us9ez exactly, you are the stereotypical United fan
United have more fans than there are people living in Manchester. It's simple maths.
As a United Fan living in Birmingham I can say that our stadium definitely needs a rebuild... It's not upto standards at all! This is overall a good move but they should definitely carry forward the fires of the Busby babes and carry forward certain aesthetics from old stadium!
Support Birmingham, Villa or West Brom. Or even one of the local non league clubs. Your community needs you.
@@Mikejames1080 I don't necessarily disagree with you but I was raised in a household of United fans and now it's kinda just stuck!
That being said I do wat h quite a few Birmingham games when I get the chance :)
@@Mikejames1080 newsflash dummy - if people only supported the clubs close to them, all premier league stadiums would be empty
Just sad how we can’t move on from times this why Utd are well behind football structure
Even Old Trafford is an old stadium but many Man United fans from around the world still visit the stadium until today :)
Not one local fan 🤣🤣
That black guy sounded German 😂
Same for City and Liverpool
Someone is mad in 6th place lol
Becausd were the biggest and most followed club in the world 😂😂😂 jelousy 😮
Under absolutely no circumstances should Old Trafford be knocked down!!, I would honestly say that that would be one of the few decisions that would be unforgivable for me as a fan and I would find it difficult to support the club moving forward, it's too iconic and would ruin the history and legacy of all the great moments that have happened and great players that have played there
I agree 100%
would you be down with a new stadium for the mens, keeping old trafford for womens and under 21s - making the area a double stadium complex
only in the case the area around it is redeveloped as and used for events and really becoming social gathering place that has a lot of footfall, otherwise a derelict stadium that sometimes has games is not so great for urban development thats opposite media city, the sheikh would have gone all in on this @@matthewbaker2573
I want a new stadium ,New beginning ,New Best training ground in the world .Best Analysts ,Best Coaches ,Best CEO AND EVERYONE AT THE CLUB BEING THE BEST .THIS IS THE NEW MANCHESTER UNITED SHOULD BE .The right idea would be to tear Old trafford down and build a new one on that one so the place would remain the same ,The Ground remains the same and the soul remain entact.
What is going on?
Couldn't they just renovate, and extend the stand over the railway line, and have the train go under it?
would be too expensive and would take nearly 10 years we need a new stadium at some point we are going to need a new stadium assessment done by one architect said that it was nearing end of its use we cant keep living in the past
Not everything old needs to be torn down@@jamalmunroe6852
@@jamalmunroe6852
It is not to expensive building a new stadium for 2 billion is too expensive for only a 14000 increase in attendance.
Go for a new stadium..we must move on
Agreed, if they already own the land it's the most obvious option. Patching up the current stadium is a waste of money. Bridging over the railway to renovate the South Stand would be hideously expensive too.
Two Manchester shitty plastic fan responses, why don’t you worry about the 115 and let united fans, executives and owner worry about where they want to play.
It's such an iconic stadium but I would love to see it upgraded. I would prefer to play somewhere else temporarily and do some proper work to Old Trafford. Obviously the questions then becomes - where. No one's going to do a stadium share with us (with reasonable capacity) which leaves Millenium and Wembley and lets be honest, it may as well be Wembley with the amount of London fans we have!
I don't know why the footy stadiums don't have the "office tower" style parkade towers like they have in Germany. Smaller cars only, though, but takes way less land and it's built up rather than "out".
I think the issue is cars getting out on the roads after. Seems logical to build them high, but our towns and cities are severly lacking infrastructure. A secure car park out of the city with free public transport to the stadium could work.
@@richcymru3976 I understand that...was born and lived in Birmingham. And there's not much free room on the island left in the cities!
they should hold a vote among the season tickets holders and the general fans and see what they want and go from there
That’s the worst thing they should do - this is a decision for the long term benefit of the club. We’re talking about a decision that will affect the club for the next 70-100 years, long after most of us are gone. The last thing we need is an emotional war between fans….the decision should be made by INEOS and once made, then fans can have an input.
Absolutely I agree that fans should get a vote but I can't see it happening unfortunately
sir jim has already spoken to the supporters group - in the long run, a new stadium would be cheaper
@@matthewbaker2573 doesn't mean it should be done because it's 'cheaper', the right thing needs to be done which is to protect our history and legacy of all the greats that have played at Old Trafford
@@joshcookson89 what and spend even more money while trying to get out of debt? A new stadium would bring additional revenue in the millions through other events old Trafford is not suitable for.
There comes a point when a building has had its use. And all you can do is keep putting plasters on it. Which just bleeds cash
Is that what you'd prefer🤦♂️
Should move to London would see less Chinese tourists in Manchester just saying
Why not. Maybe they could more closer to Salford City.
I don't think that footprint is big enough to build a new stadium, while they still play at Old Trafford. They could only do what Spurs did and build most of the stadium at the car park and then connect the Sir Alex Ferguson with the new stadium.
But, there's definitely going to be millions of fans that want to keep old Trafford and just renovate it. But that railway line is disrupting that
They’ve talked about new stadium and rebuilding of Old Trafford since 2021. I believe this when I see it
And? No one talks about rebuilding a stadium and then rebuilds it within the same week you air head, it obviously takes years of planning.🤦♂
That’s not a long time, do u understand how massive an undertaking this is? Will cost over a billion pounds
stupid comment
@@403MC2How long did it take United to accumulate the billion that they owe?
@@meenism😂 perfect response
New stadium next to it and a new youth team stadium around the original pitch would be best!
Would help if we could understand the fans.
They have a foot print
As an American, I found all those interviews at the end of the video. Hilarious because I couldn’t understand any of them.
Pardon?
Eh?
They speak english not american😂😂😂
Ha ha!
I love their accent - I have spent a lot of time in Manchester - it's a lovely city.
I agree. But the funny thing is, only three of them were actual "Mancs". There was a northern irish lady, and various accents from at least three other continents......gotta love the melting pot that is MUFC.
No government money should be used for this project
I don't think it will
It can you seem to not understand how much the government gets from this stadium
What is the actual issue with the train line? Is it too simplistic to say build a bridge/tunnel over/around the train track?
As an American I would tell you to rebuilt the old Wembley, too much history and that is something you will never get with a new stadium. I understand the need to be more technological stadium but rebuilt it. The Dodgers have the third oldest ballpark in Baseball and the town decide to rebuilt it. Even through it’s the third oldest baseball stadium it’s the largest and best stadium now. Sorry for comparing baseball with football but we don’t have the rich history of football in our country.
How to destroy a traditional english football club
Stadiums get old and have to be replaced. It's been around over 100 years and the amount of repair work is more than the cost of building a new stadium right next to it. If you want it to stay there, you have to tear each side down to the studs, and it's not going to be playable while they do that.
Traditional ? Its a mess and needs a full rebuild.
I don't understand why Liverpool didn't build a new stadium from scratch aswell.
Now Anfield look like a Frankenstein stadium.
Small club mentality... they have no real sense of ambition to be the best or biggest... while United will have it no other way... we have to be the best and biggest or BUST. Just a matter of time until the football starts really talking.
@@rohitrevankar7674Well if bloody Rohit says that Liverpool are a small club then it must be true 😂
@@rohitrevankar7674 The biggest and best with your 3 CL titles.
If ur not a liverpool fan then keep ur mouth shut
@@fromthefountofyouth It's a matter of mentality.. your club will feel small and cheap even with 10 UCL titles. it's a simple matter of fact. Such an ordinary and characterless stadium for a supposed big club. Where's the ambition to actually beat city outright? How is it that not going all in for Bellingham and Mbappe wasn't a clear goal and enough motivation for Klopp to stay on? Typical small club style of operations. United are fractured club and we have got a million problems but you guys are on your way towards another 30 year hiatus lmao.
Croke park in Dublin built fantastic stadium in same spot
croke park is 💩 & out of date too
@@CarlosGambino_22 you have not been there if you say that
@@user-xx8ot7go2z yeah... i have twice,,..
@@CarlosGambino_22 croke park probably one best stadiums in the world
You'd want it to be 100,000 capacity not 80,000 like Wembley.
glad to see so many Mancs outside Old Trafford....
If they let Sheikh Jassim take over Manchester United. But they don't want Arab. 🙄
Would like to see OT renovated and expanded instead of moving. OT really needs improvement. It's like a league 2 club's stadium at this point.
They can’t leave. This location and stadium is everything
All the fans interviewed...no one from Manchester LOL
Thats what happens when youre the biggest club in the world not just your town/city/country
Its a global institution with fans double the population of America. You can get United fans everywhere
@@reppent Barcelona and Real Madrid are bigger than Man U.
@@Lazfah they went ahead during the Ronaldo Messi era, now that both have left only real can boost of being "bigger" they have a lot of glory hunter fans
Take it your teams not good enough for fans from all over the world to watch eh.
Put a big toilet seat on it.
Put the most trophies won in English football history on it 🤫🤫
So the land between the canal and railroad gets narrower the further east you go. Currently the south, east, and north (SAF) stand cannot be expanded anymore due to that bottleneck. But the land does open up to the northwest a bit. I looked at a map and if you rotated the stadium footprint around 20 degrees clockwise and moved it northwest so the (new) east stand was located roughly at the halfway line of Old Trafford (as it currently stands) you could increase the stadium area roughly 30-40%. That would mean comfortably seating 100k fans plus all the fru fru corporate crap that makes the Glazers money. If they're going to do something new anyway then I'd prefer they just remodel on the same site and incorporate some remaining elements of Old Trafford (EG) they could leave portions of the east stand and the Bobby Charlton Stand and leave the Trinity Statue where it is. Seems a shame to leave it to collect dust or to just do minor repairs and let the stadium fall further apart.
It’s iconic, it should be a listed building and protected
If they decide on a new stadium I will protest outside the stadium day and night, that stadium is where sir bobby, the busby babes, and George best played. The Munich anniversary was just this week, Players have died to play in that stadium for United. If see Jim builds a new stadium their will be riots
Yeah they’ve tried rioting and it got them nowhere except locked up with the nearest to Manchester coming from Stoke.
2 billion is a lot of money to spend for a mid table team.
6th isn’t mid table mate
Be able to fill it Unlike City 😅
@@ManchesterUtdz cope. it is
@@nst1981 12th-8th is mid table
Chelsea spent way more than that, just to barely avoid relegation.
I go Old trafford every other week and tbh, I love it but it definitely needs major renovtion or rebuilding. I was once heavy on a new site, but nostalgia is one hell of a thing. Put nostalgia aside, and I think a new stadium is the best way to go. Old trafford is to very out of date.
Except that renovating is not enough anymore. You need to demolish it, and rebuilt it from the ground up (which can take 5 years).
It needs to be moved. There's a reason why Arsenal and Spurs moved (soon, Liverpool will move also)
Agreed - nostalgia says renovation but theres only so much that renovation will achieve. Likely to cost similar to just a new stadium anyways. Given how far we are falling behind rivals and even lesser teams, I think rebuilding is the logical option and should be the one explored. @@gold9994
It’s for the best yeah old Trafford has so many great memories but that’s all it is… memories, we need to stop living in the past and move forward the memories will always be there we need to build our future.
There’s a lot of history in it but get rid of it. I’m saying move to Wembley until it’s finished and build where it is atm
😂😂😂 Move to Wembley... Move to Wembley 🤣🤣🤣
@@the_80skidit makes sense, that is after all where 75% of the fan base come from
@@MichaelChurchill1982 🤣🤣🤣 75% of their fan base.... 75% of their fan base 🤣🤣🤣 WTF is this??? I see the stupid factory has been working overtime.... Wohohoho! 75% of their fan base 🤣🤣🤣
@@the_80skid 75% of the fan base is about 400 million people
@FetsumBerhaneDire *News flash... There's not 400 million people in the whole of the United Kingdom... Nevermind London... Honestly, What is going on with people??*
just like its stadium, this club is left in the past..no longer relevant & stinking of piss
If its possible give some fans to visit this iconic history stadium before change anything or renovation, so we fans who never have a chance to watch any game at old Trafford we can visit 😢
In my opinion they should just work on upgrading the facilities at the stadium and training ground rather than move ground completely
Stadium instead of team?
You're slow.
are they moving it to London or something to be closer to their fans?
Old Trafford always looks like an unfinished stadium. Mainly because of the stand is too close to the train.
However I think its best to improve/upgrade the stadions facilities , rather than building a new one.
Will it stop piss raining from the ceiling?
"He's made it one of his priorities to examine all options " nice goal there - vague and unable to be held to account
Sir Jim, Sir Jim, Sir Jim😮
I would rather them renovate the existing stadium. But usually hoe this goes is that whoever does the investigation/feasibly study will advise the walls are too old/heavy and according to new legislation need to only weight 200kg incase it falls on someone 🙄
New Trafford, The Ineos Arena or The Glazer Dome?
Renovate the stadium but that pitch has to stay. Way to many legends have touched that pitch and it’s part of our history