Jobs for the Poorest People 200 Years Ago

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  • @JaguarStar999
    @JaguarStar999 Год назад +121

    INDEX OF JOBS
    Intro - 0:08
    Stevedore (also called a Longshoreman) - 2:41
    Slop shop sewer - 7:00
    Shoe binder - 8:40
    Pure finder - 9:42
    Scavenger - 11:45
    Rag picker ( later became a Peddler) - 13:04
    Ash collector - 16:08
    Leech collector - 18:38
    Bone grabber - 19:58
    Night soil man or woman - 21:50
    Chamber lye collector - 23:42
    Pet squirrel collector - 25:03
    Closing comments - 26:29

    • @___Mac___
      @___Mac___ Год назад +3

      Nothing to see here, only the best comment on the video....

    • @walterkersting1362
      @walterkersting1362 Год назад +2

      What about mobile barber?

    • @walterkersting1362
      @walterkersting1362 Год назад +6

      I asked my mother for some money for candy as a child, she gave me a broom. I said what is this for? She said take this on your way to the store knock on peoples doors and offered to sweep their driveway off for whatever you can get. By this I was taught to make money, possibly the best thing she ever did for me.

    • @walterkersting1362
      @walterkersting1362 Год назад

      (Fat guy in the video by the fire) standing around waiting to be selected for a stevedore job:
      Not you fat so!

    • @USAisAFK
      @USAisAFK Год назад +3

      you forgot 19:26 "The really weird part to hear out of context"

  • @mikakestudios5891
    @mikakestudios5891 Год назад +332

    This is absolutely nothing like the 90% of my highschool classes. "Domestic" history is so overlooked. I love the cleverness of people just making their way in the world.

    • @gavinlun
      @gavinlun Год назад +5

      That's because your country is about 5 years old so there isn't that much domestic history haha

    • @mma.y
      @mma.y Год назад +6

      If you decide to go to college take a labor history class. My first semester I took an intro to US labor history and stuff like this was covered

    • @onlythewise1
      @onlythewise1 Год назад

      @@mma.y some of it

    • @lysan4878
      @lysan4878 Год назад +4

      There is only so much time. And we study American history, our state history, world history, and world geography. They can’t cover everything in a classroom but libraries are free and everywhere. If you don’t know something or are ignorant it is an individual’s fault, because you can’t read and learn by yourself. All public libraries in US, even rural ones, have free internet and computers to use as well.

    • @onlythewise1
      @onlythewise1 Год назад

      @@lysan4878 so you think history books are 100% correct all the time wow how ignorant are you , you need to read a book on how not to be so dumb

  • @lovemesomeslippers
    @lovemesomeslippers Год назад +412

    I just saw both of these wonderful people yesterday at the reenactment in Indiana. They are just as warm as you would imagine. Both are natural teachers and it’s such a pleasure it chat with them both.

    • @Just_Sara
      @Just_Sara Год назад +5

      Lucky!

    • @lazyhash
      @lazyhash Год назад +2

      where in indiana? what reenactement i would love to go

    • @lazyhash
      @lazyhash Год назад +4

      @@ashleighlecount6152 thanks!!!

    • @kennethmoles4643
      @kennethmoles4643 Год назад +1

      I've met Carol and loved the time I got to spend talking to her. These are wonderful people!

    • @madisonm.2969
      @madisonm.2969 Год назад

      Luckyyyy!!

  • @jimivey6462
    @jimivey6462 Год назад +33

    The teaching of history often focuses on the social, military, and political elite, but not enough on the common man.

    • @alecmullaney7957
      @alecmullaney7957 Год назад +3

      Never forget - the suffering of the poor is always a tool for the rich to profit.

  • @shaynecarter-murray3127
    @shaynecarter-murray3127 Год назад +54

    What's wild about using the bone powder in bread is that compared to many of the other things added to extend flour, bone powder was the nicer option. Several things they used were straight up toxic.

    • @rafelingd
      @rafelingd Год назад +7

      suspect bone powder might actually make the bread healthier.

    • @pinchespiderman
      @pinchespiderman Год назад +3

      @@rafelingd Collagen and calcium

    • @mattiemathis9549
      @mattiemathis9549 11 месяцев назад

      Right!!! I’ve never heard evidence of it in North America but it only makes sense that it happened during difficult times….
      Also, I haven’t found any other channel that focuses on North America like this one, and I haven’t watched all of his videos yet.
      I’m sure it happened, I just don’t know of the ingredients used to infiltrate the wheat…

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 10 месяцев назад +4

      Bone powder might even contribute essential nutrients.

    • @flameraven42
      @flameraven42 3 месяца назад

      Chalk was a common one if I remember right...

  • @doversailplanes
    @doversailplanes Год назад +269

    I love how Townsends is like "The economy is collapsing, there has never been a better time to teach people about how to eat buried turnips and survive on millet"
    Love ti!

    • @renaissancewomanfarm9175
      @renaissancewomanfarm9175 Год назад +22

      LOL. I noticed. It's like... quit your whining! You think you've got it bad, just look at this!

    • @victorquesada7530
      @victorquesada7530 Год назад +19

      @@renaissancewomanfarm9175 even more than that, the other videos that I have truly loved have been almost in the vein of Wendell Berry, about the value of community and togetherness, bringing skills, resilience, and mutual support together to deal with hard times.
      Yes, the perspective is important, and we need to broaden our palates (spelling that one always trips me up) as times, production, and supply chains change and fail due to fragility. But it's also a warning about what people had to do to survive, and where we might fall if we don't right the ship and make changes.

    • @bassmanjr100
      @bassmanjr100 5 месяцев назад

      Men were real men back then, and women were not. 😂

  • @rulu1828
    @rulu1828 Год назад +101

    It’s interesting that many of these jobs also kind of signal the coming of American mass-production and the decline of the artisans. It's cheaper to divide the jobs into simple procedures of unskilled/non-trained labour than to give whole process to a highly-skilled and expensive artisans.

    • @VH-ew7oq
      @VH-ew7oq Год назад

      Rich people taking advantage of poor people. The only difference today is you can actually live on some of the wages... for now.
      I'm not a socialist or anything just can't stand exploitation.

    • @codymcdowell316
      @codymcdowell316 Год назад

      That's how they killed the working man.

    • @starshot5172
      @starshot5172 Год назад +2

      We're going to an age of full automation

    • @libbyhicks7549
      @libbyhicks7549 Год назад +4

      @@starshot5172 We shall see. when they remove the checkers from our grocery store, people start throwing food around. they bring em back quick.

    • @starshot5172
      @starshot5172 Год назад +2

      @@libbyhicks7549 I just hope that in the future, more people will want pesticide-free, nutrient-rich foods more than now. We vote with our food, and education is how we improve the world at its roots.

  • @justdoingitjim7095
    @justdoingitjim7095 Год назад +35

    I remember reading about poor mountain folk and how they'd get goods from the general store on credit. To pay it off they'd bring in things they made. I read one store's list for a man who payed his bill over a year's time. These were the kind of things he made, "Two pair of shoes (no sizes), 8 cords firewood, 73 cross ties (for the RR tracks), two buckets rendered lard (one gallon buckets), 120 chicken eggs, 66 duck eggs and other such things as he could make, acquire or barter for. Folks back then didn't get much money, so most of what they got they bartered for.

  • @robzinawarriorprincess1318
    @robzinawarriorprincess1318 Год назад +195

    Carol is a treasure! And Ryan is, as always, delightful. 😊

  • @nonyadamnbusiness9887
    @nonyadamnbusiness9887 Год назад +152

    I grew up with the idea of pioneers walking west beyond the end of the road and carving a farm out of the wilderness. It's only recently occurred to me that those were the poor people.

    • @lynnodonnell4764
      @lynnodonnell4764 Год назад +38

      My aunt who recently passed at 97yrs old told me our family had ancestors arriving from Germany/ Prussia who traveled across the US to Iowa via COVERED wagon to become farmers. This was mid 1800s I do believe. They were no nonsense folks with fortitude and stamina. The farm was successful and still stands today. In the 1930's the outhouse WAS still being used. Even in -30° Iowa winters!

    • @willbass2869
      @willbass2869 Год назад +65

      The poorest people didn't go West. They stayed back & filled the cities on eastern seaboard.
      They couldn't afford the supplies.
      I've seen my family's 1807-1810(?) "passport" they filed to travel through Cherokee territory in Georgia. They caravaned from S.C. bound for Mississippi with 2 other families. That was the edge of the frontier for all intents. The number of firearms, axes, cattle/oxen (about 30) was not something the poor could accumulate.

    • @MasterMichelleFL
      @MasterMichelleFL Год назад +6

      My ancestors are the Olivers of Cades Cove. 🥰
      Their lives were treacherous and fascinating. Only the truly strong survived!. ❤

    • @nonyadamnbusiness9887
      @nonyadamnbusiness9887 Год назад +14

      @bina nocht There's a story in Davy Crockett's autobiography about him giving bear meat to a guy employed to grub out a field on someone else's claim so he could get the cash to stake his own claim in the Jackson Purchase. Davy himself moved there because he was down on his luck, having failed at yet another business. People with money didn't go west to live in a shack with a dirt floor.

    • @victorquesada7530
      @victorquesada7530 Год назад +10

      That's the quote that starts off the homestead build on this channel: the man who exhausts his credit moves west. The successful ones had tools, supplies, know how, and support. Many didn't, and would have faced certain death. They must have filled up the cities.

  • @GlassArtist07
    @GlassArtist07 Год назад +18

    While watching this... something clicked in my memory banks..
    From Kirk Douglas’ first autobiography (1988), The Ragman's Son -
    “My father, who had been a horse trader in Russia, got himself a horse and a small wagon, and became a ragman, buying old rags, pieces of metal, and junk for pennies, nickels, and dimes … Even on Eagle Street, in the poorest section of town, where all the families were struggling, the ragman was on the lowest rung on the ladder. And I was the ragman's only son.”

  • @Steve-1269
    @Steve-1269 Год назад +167

    I've worked hard labor construction jobs my entire life and have done some pretty nasty, dirty work. Jumping down in a ditch filled with raw sewage to fix a sewage line literally makes for one crappy day haha

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 Год назад +6

      Pretty much the worst. I hate septic work.

    • @Steve-1269
      @Steve-1269 Год назад +18

      @@sinisterthoughts2896 it can definitely be nasty but it's usually not that hard of work..I don't mind it that much. People always say that roofing is the hardest job, I do a lot of roofing but honestly, I think those block retaining walls are worse. Shingles are 80 pounds and suck to take up a ladder but you usually only move them once or twice on the job..those block (versa-lok) are 85+ and you move and stack those all day. Especially on the first course because it needs to be completely 100% level. Can't even be out an 1/8th. So sometimes I'll have to pick them up and down a few times per block. It kills your back..Last wall I did was over 150ft long but only about 5ft high. Not even a huge wall but you're definitely hurting at the end of the day. I was actually happy that we picked up a roof after doing that wall job..both suck in the summer but oddly enough I enjoy doing roofing. Septic work just stinks but if you do it long enough, you don't even really care or notice anymore. I don't anyway..still not fun, I'll agree with you there.

    • @johnathangiesler3869
      @johnathangiesler3869 Год назад

      So is it hard or not? You contradicted yourself

    • @Steve-1269
      @Steve-1269 Год назад +7

      @@johnathangiesler3869 I'm kinda confused..I said it's nasty but usually not too hard..do you mean when I said "hard labor" because that's just a term to we use to describe physical labor. Like digging with a shovel by hand, not in a machine. Doesn't necessarily always mean very difficult. It's more of a broad description of your job title and "rank" I guess you could say. Physical hard labor is usually done by the newest or least skilled and lowest paid guy. Not always though. I've done jobs where the owner/boss is down in the ditch with a shovel right next to everyone else if he's needed. It's rare but does happen. Hopefully that clears it up a bit. It's easy to forget that not everyone knows all the terminology or your job..and I forget that pretty often haha

    • @Steve-1269
      @Steve-1269 Год назад +11

      I'll run machines and hand dig. I hate to make labors sound unskilled. Even something like digging requires certain skills and experience and technique. It's something you just pick up after years on the job.

  • @lynnodonnell4764
    @lynnodonnell4764 Год назад +63

    When I was 38 I had a temp job like that. You showed up before 7a.m. They picked who they wanted and the rest were sent home.I often got sent home. I was 38. Considered old. The business owner was very well off. Had 3 homes. 2 were in other countries.
    The saying I had never understood before, "Becoming rich off the backs of the poor" , suddenly became very clear to me!
    Future forward: I'm now 45yrs old and start dating a guy who hauls cement. I am aghast when he tells me he is working on the home of the ex wife of that business owner. My boyfriend tells me the ex was having a' mansion" built in a woodland area near a State Park. She was having an affair with her gardener who lived in a tiny humble house. And the doorway to her kitchen was large and tall enough for him to drive an endloader through.
    Then he's in her kitchen one day where imported tiles from Italy had been inlaid. She offhandedly tells him she's decided she doesn't like them and will have the entire floor redone with a different selection.
    My jaw just dropped realizing the rich actually get to do what they please .
    This was 25 years ago. I was now making a Union Wage of $10.30. My boyfriend was making $10 hauling cement. We lived in separate towns.

    • @Steve-1269
      @Steve-1269 Год назад +10

      I did some HVAC work in one of the biggest mansions in PA. It's called the Miller mansion.. you can look it up if you want. I think it was between 40-50 million dollars. It was insane!! They had a full time landscaping crew that lived on the property. I was talking to one of the maids and she said the kids have literally never even poured a glass of water for themselves before. It blew my mind that some people really live like that. I've worked construction my entire life so seeing a lifestyle like that was kind of shocking. Definitely very different than my lifestyle to say the least.

    • @lynnodonnell4764
      @lynnodonnell4764 Год назад +19

      @@Steve-1269 what a tale of the rich you just shared. The rich DO NOT CARE who suffers. A few years back I was talking to a guy who had a VERY NICE TRUCK w his DOGGY DOO advertisement on the doors.
      I asked him what he thought of his job, did he really just collect dog poo?
      He threw his head back and started laughing. "Nope. Bought this new truck picking up dog crap. I'm tellin' ya RICH people don't pick up their dogs poo. What's really mind blowing is they don't make their kids pick it up either. That's okay. I laugh all the way to the bank".
      If I wud have been educated from today's talk I would have asked him if it had a grey film on it. 💩 😂

    • @architecture.w
      @architecture.w Год назад +7

      If you use your twenties wisely, you can be "rich" too.

    • @Steve-1269
      @Steve-1269 Год назад +16

      @@lynnodonnell4764 lol!! And yeah, some don't care..some do. I know poor people that are just as bad. But, I was working in New construction and was talking to the homeowner (who was always rude and always asking for extra work to be done for free) I asked if she was happy that her house was almost done and all she replied was "I'll be happy when all you dirty F'ing people are out of my house" I couldn't believe it! We were dirty from building her house! It's not smart to say something like that to people who are building you a custom home..it just so happened that after that, it took a few extra weeks to finish the job. And someone may or may not have left an open bottle of chocolate milk in her ductwork a few days before she moved in, so that the heat would blow the smell of hot, rancid milk all around her new house lol🤣 but on the other hand, I've worked for very rich people who were extremely nice, would always buy us lunch and even had what they called a small "thank you" party at the end of the job with pizza and beer for everyone. I was building a block retaining wall in July (each block is around 85 pounds) it was in the mid 90s that week and the lady went and bought a mini fridge and filled it with drinks for us too. I'm so glad she did because I came really close to having a heat stroke on that job. Also some of the rudest people were the ones who could barely afford the work, so..it goes both ways I guess.. Some people are just bad people, regardless of their financial situation.

    • @Steve-1269
      @Steve-1269 Год назад +3

      @@architecture.w it's never too late to start.

  • @jaydoggy9043
    @jaydoggy9043 Год назад +394

    There's a photo of me at a friend's wedding that I keep for myself as motivation as "Never again" in terms of the poverty and literal starvation I was facing at the time. I'd taken my jacket off and was in the midst of reaching over to pat him on the back while he was seated, and you can see my very distinct rib cage and hip bone - I was only 115 pounds. I'd often pretend to be "full" if invited to a friend's place for dinner, just so I could gleefully accept the leftovers in a tupperware container so I could have lunch the next day. This was while working 50 hours weeks. Poverty is very real in the modern day, and there's no excuse for a wealthy to enforce it on hard workers. In some regards, we are still where we were 200 years ago in how we treat the destitute.

    • @conniewojahn6445
      @conniewojahn6445 Год назад +46

      I do so hope things are better for you now. And, yes the wealthy take advantage of workers, always have, always will. Labor unions help. Sometimes. Stay safe, Jaydoggy, and live long and prosper.

    • @jaydoggy9043
      @jaydoggy9043 Год назад +47

      @@conniewojahn6445 That was a very kind message and yes I have gone passed that stage in my life, like I said, "never again." It was actually youtube cooking shows that REALLY saved me and taught me how to cook and preserve food. I am in a great position now, and will not go hungry again :) Thank you for your kindness, and I wish you the very best for you and your family, too. Keep being you!

    • @Dmitrisnikioff
      @Dmitrisnikioff Год назад

      Yep. Capitalism is inherently bad; there is no reforming it.

    • @lisahinton9682
      @lisahinton9682 Год назад +9

      @Jaydoggy
      So, 115 lbs on what frame? A 5'6" female with small bones would look perfectly fine at 115 lbs. A 4'11" woman with a small bone structure would look quite fat. A man, at 5'11" and 115 lbs would be near death.
      Just a suggestion - always read through your comment and pretend you're reading it for the first time. Do you understand what's going on? Have an accurate picture? No? Then add some more info, such as, in this case, the fact of whether you're male or female, and how you are built, and maybe even your approximate age.
      Be well.

    • @phoneowner7936
      @phoneowner7936 Год назад +11

      Been there. I started to look so bad my boss thought I had cancer.

  • @krockpotbroccoli65
    @krockpotbroccoli65 Год назад +13

    The job of the wrecker was a huge one for poor folk here on cape cod back in the old days. They were literally scavengers who would go and loot shipwrecks for everything down to the timbers. There's numerous old houses around here that were constructed from salvaged shipwreck timbers.

    • @willbass2869
      @willbass2869 Год назад +4

      "loot"?
      I think "salvage" is the correct term.
      Salvage of a wrecked ship had been a LONG time accepted activity even in colonial times. English common law addressed it, iirc.
      Nothing nefarious or untoward about the people engaged in or the activity itself.

    • @Pygar2
      @Pygar2 Год назад +2

      @@willbass2869 Imagine a port shaped like a C . On either end of the C, a lantern is lit on pitch-black nights. Aim your ship towards the middle between them, and you're safe in port, in calm water. Now imagine a wrecker putting up two lamps with rocks between them, not far away...

    • @willbass2869
      @willbass2869 Год назад +1

      @@Pygar2 my, my how dramatic!
      Hollywood's a'callin....

    • @Pygar2
      @Pygar2 Год назад

      @@willbass2869 Not drama. Real, grim history. Look it up.

  • @LaundryFaerie
    @LaundryFaerie Год назад +86

    My great-uncle was a stevedore for the C&H Sugar Company. My mom said he used to come home each workday smelling strongly of raw sugar, and he'd go in and shower to try to get the smell off him.

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Год назад +3

      Sounds like a good problem to have. Or does raw sugar smell bad?

    • @lynnodonnell4764
      @lynnodonnell4764 Год назад +33

      @@msjkramey the odor of tons of most any product is often overpowering to becoming nauseating.
      When Quaker oats is making Instant Oats Apple Cinnimon the odor covers the city in whatever direction the wind is blowing. I often walked out of the plant smelling 'sickly sweet'..

    • @mikeseier4449
      @mikeseier4449 Год назад +24

      It sounds like he was a sweet man….

    • @ajurado800
      @ajurado800 Год назад +23

      I'm looking at the C&H Sugar Factory out my window right now. It's literally a couple hundred feet away. Small world!

    • @ftffighter
      @ftffighter Год назад +14

      I used to live by the Wyandot Carmel Popcorn factory and it used to create a smell that would cover half of the decent sized town. It was a smell that one can't describe tbh. I guess if I were to try, it was a very "hot"(Not spicy) smell that had this strong, deep, sickeningly sweet note that rolled through the senses and at the end of the note, and it finished off with this cooked, chemical backdrop that almost reminds one of burnt popcorn but if it were burnt in this really weird, industrial oil. It honestly created a scent that made an entirely new type of smell of sorts that NOTHING on this earth to this day has been able to replicate. It was funky.

  • @ah5721
    @ah5721 Год назад +10

    Basically the slop shop and shoe binders were the first fast fashion and still now they are paid poorly... . Fun fact right now the Mississippi River had been so dry no barges can go up and down so they have been dredging and putting levies in around Louisiana to keep the water from sea coming in.

    • @cherylT321
      @cherylT321 Год назад

      Wow, we are really going backwards in time!

  • @snakejumper3277
    @snakejumper3277 Год назад +15

    I discovered from an 1880 census that my g-granddaddy was a "turpentine laborer" in the Wiregrass region of Alabama. Turpentine was the biggest industry in that area due to the Longleaf pines. I like to reflect on the idea that I come from many generations of hard working People of the Land.

    • @nothanks9503
      @nothanks9503 Год назад +2

      Wow he made coffee for the navy huh that’s neat

  • @Just_Sara
    @Just_Sara Год назад +92

    That half hour went WAY too fast. It was great to see Carol again, I still get emotional when I watch her hour-long video on Maggie's story.

    • @brandon152lee
      @brandon152lee Год назад +3

      Can you please share the link?

    • @nessamillikan6247
      @nessamillikan6247 Год назад

      m.ruclips.net/video/jqOgWngL5aY/видео.html

    • @victorquesada7530
      @victorquesada7530 Год назад

      @@brandon152lee I think this video might be what she is referencing:
      ruclips.net/video/jqOgWngL5aY/видео.html

    • @raraavis7782
      @raraavis7782 Год назад +6

      @@brandon152lee
      Here you go:
      ruclips.net/video/jqOgWngL5aY/видео.html

    • @brandon152lee
      @brandon152lee Год назад +1

      @@raraavis7782 🙏

  • @paveloleynikov4715
    @paveloleynikov4715 Год назад +17

    I can't help but remember Terry Pratchett's Ank-Morpork books. They sometimes looks like historical books disguised into fantasy, and very relevant to this video

  • @RIBill
    @RIBill Год назад +41

    Nearly all those jobs still exist in the world today. In India, there was one spot outside a City we went through where 2 guys were in a sewage pit, digging it out and putting it on the street and 2 other guys shoveling it onto a horse cart.

    • @victorquesada7530
      @victorquesada7530 Год назад +6

      I remember seeing Frontier House with my dad, only to have him exclaim "I had that stove!" when we saw the wood stove. There are many places where these jobs are still the ways that people get by. While I am glad to be removed from many of them these days in this place, there is still much to learn. Thank you for this content Carol and crew!

    • @skilletpan5674
      @skilletpan5674 Год назад +7

      It's similar in Vietnam. Lots of manual labor jobs that haven't been replaced by machines yet.

    • @robertabray-enhus3198
      @robertabray-enhus3198 Год назад

      Because those are still third world counties. In the US we no longer employ people like that.

    • @RIBill
      @RIBill Год назад

      @@victorquesada7530 there was a guy I knew who took a job at a sewage treatment plant. On his first day, they gave him the job of ALL first-day people. He had to pressure wash the solids holding tank. After several hours of standing in human fecal matter, the tank was clean. He reported that to his supervisor and the whole crew went to inspect his job, knowing what was about to happen. As the supervisor recognized his job, he pointed up at the ceiling and says, "You missed a spot!" And the whole crew starts laughing, because he had to do the whole job again, starting with getting feces raining down on him.

    • @conniewojahn6445
      @conniewojahn6445 Год назад +3

      @@RIBill How awful.

  • @heresjohnny602
    @heresjohnny602 Год назад +44

    Ryan's got fabulous energy. A Townsend special for the history channel me thinks.

  • @sarasolomon4812
    @sarasolomon4812 Год назад +24

    Wow! Such an amazing topic! I'm so glad Carol and her husband are making the effort to remember the little people who kept society running at the ground level.

  • @Mygoalwogel
    @Mygoalwogel Год назад +11

    My gosh! Any kind of question you ask her, she gives not just a nice general answer, but a very specific person, incident, or statistic in minute detail. All just off the top of her head! I can't recall as many specifics of my *own* life!

    • @cherylT321
      @cherylT321 Год назад

      It shows how fascinated she is with the topic!

  • @mcvayfamilyhomestead
    @mcvayfamilyhomestead Год назад +33

    I love Carol! She is such a wonderful lady and a wealth of knowledge!

  • @royalpitamamma
    @royalpitamamma Год назад +8

    The pure finder got me. Had an old man ask me to clean up the dog mess in his yard. I found a few grey ones and was going to toss them in the trash and for some reason he wanted to save those calling them "very important." I have no idea what he was gonna do, but it was so odd...now I wonder if he was gonna try and take the nitrates off.

  • @Rozewolf
    @Rozewolf Год назад +15

    Day labor hiring still exists. :( Just as with the Stevedores ... This was a good overview. Thank you.

  • @englishhomestead
    @englishhomestead Год назад +6

    Simply brilliant as always. when peopel harp on about the good old days they forget that so many struggled just to keep warm and have a full belly. Something worth remembering as we eat three square meals a day.

  • @CritterCamSoCal
    @CritterCamSoCal Год назад +5

    Times have changed: Stevedore = Longshoreman (in LA the Longshoremen are union and earn $100,000 USD Plus) the modern equivalent is day laborers waiting outside Home Depot.

  • @HLBear
    @HLBear Год назад +46

    This is such an interesting topic, and very important to understand. Thank you for a great interview (in a great cabin, too)!

  • @maxibake9323
    @maxibake9323 Год назад +9

    This was Fascinating, & such a cosy setting in the Cabin.
    I remember the Rag & Bone Man as a Kid in the 70's in the UK.
    TFS, & take care everybody. ❤🙂🐶

  • @Vexation4632
    @Vexation4632 Год назад +6

    Thank goodness things have changed. I started as a stevedore in Tacoma Wa. in 1979. Retired as a ILWU Marine Clerk 43 years later. The employer "shape-up" helped birth the ILA and later the ILWU Unions.

  • @Tungsten96
    @Tungsten96 Год назад +13

    One of the purest channels ever. I love you guys.

  • @gregGould
    @gregGould Год назад +5

    It wasn't 200 years ago but during the depression when they were building the Golden Gate Bridge there was a line of men waiting to replace any worker who fell (and probably died) or replace any worker who lost their nerve and couldn't continue working at those heights. Interestingly only 11 men died building the bridge but 28 men died building the San Francisco - Oakland Bay Bridge that was completed 6 months prior to the Golden Gate Bridge.

    • @Pygar2
      @Pygar2 Год назад +1

      The Hoover Dam required an endless stream of wheelbarrows of concrete dumped in, 24/7/365. For years... Mean supervisors just seemed to... vanish, somehow. By accident or on purpose, if you went in, you stayed there- to stop the pour was to weaken the dam!

  • @lisapop5219
    @lisapop5219 Год назад +13

    I remember seeing on the waterfront for the first time a few years ago. It came out in the 50s and showed the longshoremen standing around trying to get hired

  • @benjaminscribner7737
    @benjaminscribner7737 Год назад +28

    Always great, learning more from this channel than anything I ever learned in school.

  • @ShellyS2060
    @ShellyS2060 Год назад +37

    This was amazing! Thank you so much for teaching us about the real parts of history.

  • @OptimusWombat
    @OptimusWombat Год назад +18

    These videos are amazing. Just a simple conversation, but you learn so much. I still love the 18th Century Cooking series, but I'm glad that Townsends has expanded beyond that.

  • @Solhai
    @Solhai Год назад +6

    I keep watching this video every couple days and reviewing these jobs. I remember in the 90s as a ten-year-old in Southern California walking around gathering cans and glass at events or parades to recycle for extra money for my mom. We had help and this was a little extra to help make money less tight. That being the only funds would be very painful. Or even going around to houses in the area and to introduce yourself and ask if they had recyclable materials like that sounds very hard as well. Thank you for these videos to make me appreciate what I have and also to work to care for what I do have and make the most of it.

  • @chrislemery8178
    @chrislemery8178 Год назад +12

    The details. YES, that's why we watch this. He's so right. We want to know how most people lived. Not just the lords or landowners. Immensely informative.

  • @anbuspecial
    @anbuspecial Год назад +9

    Wow, What a wonderful surprise to be this early. Thank you for these videos! They are honestly Fantastic!

  • @uriah-s97
    @uriah-s97 Год назад +7

    I couldn't even imagine going through life like these people had to!! We have it so easy today, just makes you feel so blessed and grateful. Chatted with the old badger, got to see the drop out coffin, super crazy!! By the way Ryan, my wife and I love the coffee we got this sunday, really cool talking to you, and tell your wife we love her videos on townsends plus! and watch out for the chickens! We had the opportunity to talk to MICHAEL DRAGOO and we had his book signed! 🤯 Awesome video, keep up the amazing work Townsends crew!!

    • @KMF3
      @KMF3 Год назад +3

      You may not have to imagine it. Be prepared.

  • @michaelsexton8885
    @michaelsexton8885 Год назад +11

    Ragmen are still in business today. When I worked for a RSPCA shop (2010) all the clothes we couldn't sell to the public were sold to the Rag man for pennies a pound.

    • @KMF3
      @KMF3 Год назад +1

      Really? What do they do with them?

    • @cherylT321
      @cherylT321 Год назад

      Interesting!

    • @Marlaina
      @Marlaina Год назад

      I like that they recycle

    • @KMF3
      @KMF3 Год назад

      @@Marlaina yes true recycling not like what we supposedly have nowadays that's usually a farce.

    • @valley_robot
      @valley_robot Год назад

      They get sold to China and then we buy them back in Primark

  • @miriambertram2448
    @miriambertram2448 Год назад +5

    I continue to be amazed with the success of humanity due to their hard work and determination.

  • @southernwanderer7912
    @southernwanderer7912 Год назад +4

    What a wonderful interview. I think this is one of my favorites on this channel.

  • @zoneseven3839
    @zoneseven3839 Год назад +4

    Still happens in baltimore. They just have a Cleaning boat now. Harbor is getting cleaner

  • @hotlavatube
    @hotlavatube Год назад +1

    The outhouse deaths reminds me of the USCSB and WorkSafeBC videos on confined space safety. They show how one person succumbing in a confined space can rapidly escalate to multiple casualties as their friends/coworkers attempt rescue but succumb themselves to the low O2 or toxic vapors in the confined spaces.

  • @lynnklug1731
    @lynnklug1731 Год назад +7

    This channel is always full of wonderful information. Townsends channel is second to none. Best channel on RUclips!

  • @LadaFunDeshOfficial
    @LadaFunDeshOfficial Год назад +11

    That's so interesting! I love learning about old days and how people lived before

  • @sdraper2011
    @sdraper2011 Год назад +5

    This was fascinating! You guys do a great job of providing a variety of content. I always learn a lot. Wish my history teachers had been more like this!

  • @blwrz4
    @blwrz4 Год назад +4

    Really appreciate the videos! Thanks!

  • @stevep5408
    @stevep5408 Год назад +6

    Ryan you hold your own! John is great, you aren't a step down in any way. Well done sir. Your cooking videos are awesome.

  • @carlhenryjr
    @carlhenryjr Год назад +3

    Informative episode with terrific people- I cannot overstate how much I love this channel.

  • @ajurado800
    @ajurado800 Год назад +4

    Always fascinating content with Townsends. Thank you!

  • @glennfyfe1357
    @glennfyfe1357 Год назад +1

    One of my favorite videos yet. Very good and enjoyable. Thanks, more please.

  • @motagrad2836
    @motagrad2836 Год назад +6

    Up in NE Illinois and SE Wisconsin we had "Rag and Bone Men" in the early 20th century according to my Mom and grandma

    • @floraldays5642
      @floraldays5642 Год назад

      My mother said the same thing about the "raggedy bone" man when she was a child. He would travel down the street that her grandmother lived on peddling his wares or accepting rags. This occurred in a town in Eastern Massachusetts.

  • @freefoodchef7939
    @freefoodchef7939 Год назад +36

    Wow, I haven't even watched this whole video yet --- in fact, I'm only a few minutes into it so far -- but I'm in love with this topic! I've always been very interested in women's history and the history of poverty, so this is right up my alley. Thank you so much for exploring this extremely worthwhile subject. 🙂

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 Год назад +4

    Thanks for sharing with us Ryan and Carol, that was interesting on the different jobs that people would do to survive. Stay safe and keep up the good work and videos. Fred

  • @sebastienhardinger4149
    @sebastienhardinger4149 Год назад +5

    Absolutely fantastic video, love talking about the common people and how they made their livings

  • @chippychick6261
    @chippychick6261 Год назад +2

    Look ,at your own family history. My Irish great and great great grandparents were dock labourers , rag pickers, piecemeal seamstresses. Even my dad shared his childhood experiences of all 7 kids working in the 1930s when his father died young. His mother was loved by the family she cleaned and did laundry for, but she didnt have much energy for her own children.knowing this pushed me to become self reliant as possible. 💛 gotta love our history

  • @rotaman8555
    @rotaman8555 Год назад +2

    Gray squirrels are considered invasive nuisances in Britain and are becoming a threat to the native red squirrels there. I wonder if Ben Franklin is responsible for introducing gray squirrels to the island? If so, that would be another reason the British might despise Ol’ Ben!

  • @pilgrimsway2644
    @pilgrimsway2644 Год назад

    This is very convicting, humbling and sooo very interesting! Love all that you guys are doing with your channel.

  • @wfldfire
    @wfldfire Год назад +3

    Thank you for this wonderful topic. Carol is a delight.

  • @happy_bubble7
    @happy_bubble7 Год назад +4

    New to the channel and Im loving the information. This is what colleges and highschools should be doing! I learned some of this from just hanging out with my elders. My Moms first job was at age 3. Her father was born in an abandoned train car and was one of 17 kids, only 4 of which survived. Im 37, so some of those tips survived into the 60s.

  • @stephpavone
    @stephpavone Год назад +4

    Loved this episode-Carol is an amazing source of information and she shares it with such passion. Could listen to her all day ❤

  • @elodieducloux8126
    @elodieducloux8126 Год назад +1

    I LOVE listening to Carol - thank you for sharing your passion & thanks to Townsends for showing this, I would not have discovered this otherwise.

  • @KMF3
    @KMF3 Год назад +10

    I wonder if the bone bread was actually more nutritious because of all of the minerals in Bones?

    • @JB-vd8bi
      @JB-vd8bi Год назад

      The minerals are in the marrow. Bones dried out/cooked enough to grind wouldn't have much, if any, nutritional value.

    • @KMF3
      @KMF3 Год назад

      @@JB-vd8bi something about that doesn't sound right

    • @stinew358
      @stinew358 Год назад +3

      There would be calcium and other minerals but probably far less nutritious and might have other heavy metals

  • @tokencivilian8507
    @tokencivilian8507 Год назад +1

    Great episode. Fantastic conversation and extremely educational.

  • @jimivey6462
    @jimivey6462 Год назад +7

    The gray squirrels that were brought over to England in the 18th century became problematic as they endangered the native red squirrels.

  • @sheilam4964
    @sheilam4964 Год назад +2

    👍👍👍👍👍 I always look forward to learning what Carol has researched.

  • @bleedingfinger
    @bleedingfinger Год назад +3

    This was really really really interesting. What you guys talked about at the end is so true. Also stuff like this gives life today some perspective!!

  • @christopherbaby3842
    @christopherbaby3842 Год назад +1

    Wow this was an amazing explanation. Very vivid and such good descriptions I felt like I could've been there.

  • @egyptcat4301
    @egyptcat4301 Год назад +3

    She's a fantastic storyteller, and you're a great intervierer! Enjoyed this so much!

  • @janettemasiello5560
    @janettemasiello5560 Год назад +5

    It's fascinating to learn new things about a time in our country
    that was difficult for so many.
    They had Fortitude that I think many of us lack today.

    • @NieroshaiTheSable
      @NieroshaiTheSable Год назад

      Surviving the worst because you have to doesn't mean you can't find unfairness reprehensible. And vice versa.

    • @janettemasiello5560
      @janettemasiello5560 Год назад

      @@NieroshaiTheSable
      Umm...ok

    • @libbyhicks7549
      @libbyhicks7549 Год назад

      Well, they weren't circumcized or injected with poison as infants. They weren't marketed over-processed highly-refined additive-laced foods. They didn't spend most of their days slumped awkwardly in chairs. We are on a highway to nowhere fast.

    • @libbyhicks7549
      @libbyhicks7549 Год назад

      @@NieroshaiTheSable That is correct. Just because you survive does not make it okay.

  • @gingerjak7928
    @gingerjak7928 Год назад +14

    What great content! I especially appreciate discussion of any female role during this time period. Carol is a fascinating guest. 👍

  • @JoelPlanetMedia
    @JoelPlanetMedia Год назад +10

    I love your content! Keep up the great work!

  • @PranksandPodcasts
    @PranksandPodcasts Год назад +4

    Wow such an interesting part of history you’d never think about, love it and well explained!

  • @AE-Psalm91
    @AE-Psalm91 Год назад

    What a great video, so articulate and such amazing info!

  • @verneepeterson8771
    @verneepeterson8771 Год назад +2

    Very informative video, I'm enjoying it. Thank you so much for posting it, I'm a big fan of living history and enjoy all of your wonderful videos.

  • @gtbkts
    @gtbkts Год назад +2

    Thanks for the awesome content and great video!

  • @dunerider88
    @dunerider88 Год назад

    Fascinating! Thank you for sharing!

  • @faithwalker5196
    @faithwalker5196 Год назад

    Well done! I watched the whole thing and enjoyed it. Learned a lot. It was tough In a few spots trying to listen AND eat lunch, but I managed.

  • @wizardofkozz
    @wizardofkozz Год назад +5

    Carol is a great storyteller. Thanks!

  • @davestelling
    @davestelling Год назад

    Always a treasure checking in here - thanks, very much...

  • @Thepaintedtiger
    @Thepaintedtiger Год назад +1

    Thrums is what you call the threads at the end of a warp that are loom waste, the
    length of them varies depending on the loom....18-24 inches is common.

  • @Barbarra63297
    @Barbarra63297 Год назад +3

    I was born in 1954 and as a kid I remember hearing the Ragman coming down the street yelling RAGMAN, RAGMAN!!! The women would go out to his truck and give him their rags and also a pots and pans man.

  • @dsiepiela6449
    @dsiepiela6449 Год назад

    So much new info!! Thanks.

  • @Jo-hello
    @Jo-hello Год назад +4

    Absolutely fascinating! It feels like these people were actually there! Telling what they saw
    Thank you! Great video. I’m going to go tell my children what they might have been doing 200 years ago! 😄

  • @tylerkrug7719
    @tylerkrug7719 Год назад +1

    Very interesting!
    Thank you for sharing.

  • @shannonperry515
    @shannonperry515 Год назад

    Such rich material! Thank you for this!

  • @-Saiden-
    @-Saiden- Год назад

    That was excellently informative love ya guys!

  • @MiddleEastMilli
    @MiddleEastMilli Год назад +2

    Excellent interview, Ryan!

  • @DipityS
    @DipityS Год назад

    What a fascinating interview - thank you for sharing this interesting video.

  • @fiberfarmstead
    @fiberfarmstead Год назад

    fascinating! thank you for the deep dive. truly interesting.

  • @debraroberts1496
    @debraroberts1496 Год назад +3

    Oh my goodness, what a wonderful and fascinating video! I loved it! Carol was so informative. By the way, not one job jumped out at me for employment 😂😂

  • @MapleRhubarb
    @MapleRhubarb Год назад

    Absolutely fascinating! Saving this to use in my classroom

  • @AlexisLK
    @AlexisLK Год назад +2

    This lady is wonderful, please invite her again. And the illustrations you are using are incredible and help so much to visualize everything.

  • @ambercm515
    @ambercm515 Год назад +1

    In the UK we still have "rag and bone men", at least in the town I'm from. They go around calling for iron and scraps, any unwanted items. Their call had a plaintive drawn out tone, I couldn't distinguish the words. But my parents would say it was the rag and bone man. It was part of my childhood in 90s and early 2000s, every couple of weeks they'd come by in a truck. Vice did an article on it recently:
    The Last Rag-and-Bone Man in London
    Until the end of the 1970s, the scrap collectors were a familiar sight all over the city. Now, not so much.

  • @SkycladWanderer
    @SkycladWanderer Год назад +5

    Hell yes love this guy and the lady was so informative

  • @agimagi2158
    @agimagi2158 Год назад +3

    I was excited for this since the tavern livestream!