Kind of "correction" or more accurately "additional info": Rod Templeton (from Heatwave) did most of the arranging for the song "Rock with You" he also did writing, composing, arranging for other songs for Off the Wall and Thriller. Imo he had equal influence on MJ's success at that time.
Yes, I was hoping someone would mention this. When referring to MJ's stuff people always mention the Quincy-Sweden Duo but Templeton was part of that with writing most of the hits. "Rock with you" "Off the wall" "Thriller" to name a few and also wrote George Bensons "Give me the night". Crazy stuff...
#Facts Rod Temperton was a big part of Michael's success and the success of all the artists Q produced in the 80's. The Brothers Johnson, George Benson, James Ingram, Patti Austin, etc... Rod wrote and arranged many of the hits. Also the studio musicians were very important. Greg Phillinganes, John Robinson, David Williams, Paul Jackson Jr., Louis Johnson, Paulino Da Costa, Steve Lukather, Jeff Porcaro. The A Team across the board. 🎤🎹🎸🔥
I love hearing and seeing Paulette! Her take on the musicianship and musicians is so insightful. She is a delight. (and so are both of you guys, I love the Scary Pockets arrangements I've heard.)
Rock With You is a Ron Temperton (from Heatwave) song. He wrote the melody and the arrangement. There's a demo on YT with his arrangement and guide vocals on top. And it's really close to what it became, with the same drum intro and organ parts. He wrote Off The Wall, the song and Thriller, the song too.
Rock with You ( Michael Jackson), a woman needs love(Ray Parker hr.), let's groove tonight (earth, wind, and Fire), and tell me if you still care (s.o.s. band), are my ultimate favorite songs. I was a little girl, and anytime I hear these songs, it is like my youthful soul smiles with glee.😇🙏❤️👍🤗
Great video. Wonderful insights about the tracks as well as being a performer. Hard to believe this beautiful women is 71 she doesn’t look like she’s left her 50s and her voice still sounds fantastic. This new (to me) channel is easily amongst my fave content. Right up there with Harry Mack Omegele videos, The Terrell Show, Tara Simons Studios, Crooked Media, Beau of the Fifth Column, The Lex Fridman Podcast and The Pat McAfee Show. Keep up the excellent work!
Loved loved loved the history and the knowledge shared as a fellow musician, especially the part when it comes to the importance of confidence and the feelings around age, the antidote to fear being gratitude & acceptance of who you are from simply being a musician.
Absolutely loved this episode! You all seem such lovely people, and are obviously ridiculously skilled! My favourite part was when you talked about gratitude, really poignant stuff. Keep on being you, love your music and your enthusiasm! 😀
Just discovered this channel and I've been binging for a few hours. It's great content, I'm learning a lot! 16:29 this part was beautiful. I needed to heart that, it was like a caress to my heart 😭
Man , give the poor woman time to answer , please ! She does not look as if she is 72 years old , I mean she look good for 72 years old , which makes it hard to believe . RESPECT !!!!!! Not only does she looks good but sounds great as well and once again , RESPECT !!!!!!!!
Bad seems to be a transitional album, because it was still Quincy producing, but you could definitely hear the move toward the sound of Dangerous and his later stuff at that point.
Absolutely one will never exaggerate the significance of mr. Rod Temperton, when talking about the connection of Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson ! Definitely that is the fact.
What an awesome video! Weirdly, from all the research I've done, it seems Paulette was cut from the final mix of "Rock of You"! I don't hear her in the original acapella...
At 11:40 that's contrary motion. Counterpoint is when there are two different melodies at the same time with non-matching rhythms. Awesome video, Paulette is a treasure.
I enjoy yall so much. I love music but know nothing of the mechanics and architecture of it. You and your guest give me some idea of the creativity and genius of creating musical art. I grew up with MJ and as an adult have mixed feeling about him. He is the personification of WOW. I am almost 62 and listen to OFF The WALL and THRILLER so often. I hope in time that the music, Michael's music can be separated from the troubled man and just be appreciated without a caveat.
Some of us are already there. I've never had trouble separating the art from the artist. In fact, I met one of my all-time fave musicians/songwriters who was rude to me, but it didn't affect my love of his music. Think of all the artists who have stories we know nothing about. People often do shitty things. If we just cancelled everyone who's ever done something shitty, there'd be very little art left to enjoy.
I don't really like this narrative of the troubled artist, who has to separated from his art. One: most of the stories about MJ are just hush.hush. Two: most artists are troubled. Van Gogh cut his ear... he even painted a portrait of himself after the "accident". Dali was pretty much a weirdo. So was his art. Picasso was a centre of the artist world and a not-easy to live with according to his last wife and daughter (though he was over 70 by then, so...). And let me not continue withBach's contant quarrels, Beethovens hopeless marriage offers and grumpy personality, and so on. What we should actually separate are the gosspis and media frenzy from factual information about an artist. And let me just add: listen to the interviews with MJ. NOBODY, not one polished journalist ever cared to make an interview about his art. Well, that's not true, Ebony was the only magazine which made interviews with sense with him. He was the top artist and all they wanted to ask him about was his private life and health issues. Says a lot about the media and their stories. Or more like: their agenda.
Yes, meeting Cannonball then working with Luther Vandross hopefully that means she worked with Nat Adderley. I would like to hear the entire story...connect the dots😊❤
16:17 I love how you can see the exact moment Ryan gets that joke in his head and he’s just watching for her to finish up what she’s saying.. lol chefs kiss👌
What's interesting about the last question is that Quincy produced "Bad" as well. I think they're dead on with the technology evolution, as well as Mike's need for growth.
The late British songwriter Rod Temperton former organist/songwriter of Heatwave was amazing! He wrote "Rock with You", "Thriller", etc. for MJ; "Mystery" for The Manhattan Transfer later remade by Anita Baker, etc.
he was credited, stop making things up. He just didn't get co-writer credit, he got credit as arranger. Since what he added was actually an arrangment part it's a matter of interpretation if that counts as co-writing or arranging.
He was given credit for what he actually did on every song he worked on. He is mentioned many times in Mike’s autobiography itself. And I honestly don’t give weight to anyone’s word who is trying to get theirs after Mike’s death but were all grateful & praises when he was alive. Too low..
@@loubamour your opinion doesn't matter. Since next to the whole song it's less than 20% what he added and added just to aerangement of the bridge (not the whole bridge, mind you), arrangement credit is just as fine. Q stirring things up in the background (because it was him, who pushed Greg about it, Greg was fine with arrangement credits before Q started to tell he shouldn't) is quite tasteless. I wouldn't be surpries if it was him who told MJ to give Greg just arrangement frwdits after MJ said he wanna guve co-writing credits to Greg. After all Q was the producer, not MJ...
15:35 The song Paulette mentions - "Everything Must Change" - is performed by Mick "Simply Red" Hucknall and Chaka Khan at the Montreux Jazz Festival (2008) with Quincy Jones conducting. It's a superb rendition of a poetic song written by Bernard Ighner (also mentioned by Paulette). I was surprised the guys didn't recognise it when Paulette sang a few bars . . .
Jack or Ryan any thoughts on Stromae? Sorta popular but still very underrated and a true artist. I'm sure there's plenty intended meaning in his stuff and I think he'd make for an awesome episode! Truly would love to see your guys' perspective on some of his stuff. Absolutely love the channel keep it up!
There’s an amazing demo to “don’t stop ‘til you get enough” on the off-the-wall anniversary edition where the Jacksons, including Janet, are playing the percussion and keys as Michael figures out the song. If Michael had not gone solo I could see the Jacksons having been relevant for another decade or more.
They forgot to mention rod temperton for rock with you.... he wrote that masterpiece.... but props to Quincy Jones and Bruce swedien... the sound of off the wall is one of the best sounding albums sonically I’ve ever heard even to this day
You are not 72! Whatever your age is, you are beautiful. Also-- as a child of the same era- I really appreciate you featuring Q and MJ. I learned so much!
Great questions, Jack. You guys are talking about my shit now! Off The Wall came out when I was 13, and I could not get enough of "Don't Stop" and "Rock With You". Luckily, KSOL played those tracks _constantly._ 😀 (BTW, the RWY bassline is an absolute clinic!) As great as Thriller is, OTW is my preferred album. It was the first time Quincy and Micheal released lightning from their collective bottle, and there's something magical about it that never gets old to me. Keep on talking to legends like Paulette! Hearing stories about her experience working with giants of the industry is endlessly fascinating. 😎
Disco-Funk duo! Off the wall have NOTHING "pop" and LOTS of Disco! and the very best song of that album is the incredibly amazing get on the floor with the legendary Louis Johnson on bass.
@@BassByTheBay Disco filled the charts with lots of songs and they were and are very different from ordinary pop, off the wall is the perfect DISCO album , they are POPular DISCO songs.
@@margix1172 I was listening to radio non-stop at the time. The term "disco" has come to encompass a much broader category of music than it did when OTW came out. Most record stores had music categories of rock, soul, country, classical, and jazz; a few stores had more fine-grained categories including disco, but I bought this album in the "soul" section in 1979. Disco was pretty specific; it was characterized by very straight grooves with an emphasis on smooth (i.e., not funky) grooves/sounds/arrangements. Artist like Tavares and Sylvester were making more "pure" disco -- that's why their music wasn't as popular. Point being that Michael and Quincy had very strong pop sensibilities, and that was reflected in their songwriting and arranging. There are disco _elements_ in OTW, but I wouldn't consider it a disco album, and I didn't hear anyone who enjoyed it at the time refer to it as disco. "Rock with You" was the most disco-esque hit from the album, and even then it was different from the disco that got played in clubs. "It's the Falling in Love" had the most pure disco moments of the album during the choruses. Like most music then, OTW borrowed from multiple sources, and that's why I think classifying it strictly as a disco album is inaccurate. Like most pop, it had different elements to it. It was clearly a dance record, but so was all the funk I was listening to then -- and funk is NOT the same as disco :-). And remember, Michael embraced being called "The King of Pop", and the public called him that for a reason. But regardless of how any of us want to classify OTW, I'm sure we can agree it's a fantastic album.
@@BassByTheBay I think is because in USA people are afraid to label a record as "disco" because of the dumb idiots that started the "disco sucks" movement but the truth is that disco changed everything , the raw funk become exactly like OTW...smooth funk that it is disco. Of course into the disco genre there are many sub styles and OTW is disco - funk while giorgio moroder is electro-disco and so on. Don't forget also that all over the world the term disco was used even after americans stopped to use it. And above all the term disco is way better than "pop" that means nothing, pop can be everything but disco is a dance style with great musicians a pulsating bass an heart beating 4/4 drums often an entire orchestra and amazing vocals many pop don't even have one of these features. I'm sorry but OTW is the perfect disco album ...well let's say disco-funk .
Great episode as always. I would like to see your analyzis of ABBA. They had a break from music for 40 years and came back last year with a new album. I can't think of another group doing that. It would be nice to see your analyzis of one of their new songs like "Don't shut me down". And then maybe compare it to their earlier work. "Don't shut me down" have so many layers of music going on in the background I think you would appreciate just analyzing that bit.
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I think the most amazing part of this is the fact that Paulette is 72 years old. How is that possible?
I know right? I stopped the video and had to comment. Are you kidding me!?!? I'll have what she's having. 😄
No way she's over 40
Black don't crack
exactly my thoughts.
@@JaeLee83 Exactly
More Paulette please. Her joy and enthusiasm is so contagious!
YES, Quincy and Michael were the ultimate duo. but let's not forget Quincy's LONG time music partner. Music Composer, Mr. Rod Temperton.
GREAT interview you guys.
Philinganes as well
“To give someone a piece of your heart, is worth more than all the wealth in the world.” ― Michael Jackson
Reading this quote instantly brings a tear to my eyes. Michael was beautiful.
😂
To give someone a piece us also very nice.
Paulette is 72? What would I give to be that radiant and charismatic at 72.
I am by no means a musician in any form or fashion. But I so enjoy these shows. The history, the passion, the creativity. The love for music.
Paulette is such a PRO and a joy to watch. She has accompanied some of the greatest songs ever!
Paulette’s voice is still so beautiful. What a great talent.
You can't go wrong with an Michael Jackson episode! :))
When I heard "Can You Feel It" as a kid in the early 80s, it seemed like it was magic, it still does.
Kind of "correction" or more accurately "additional info": Rod Templeton (from Heatwave) did most of the arranging for the song "Rock with You" he also did writing, composing, arranging for other songs for Off the Wall and Thriller. Imo he had equal influence on MJ's success at that time.
Yes, I was hoping someone would mention this. When referring to MJ's stuff people always mention the Quincy-Sweden Duo but Templeton was part of that with writing most of the hits. "Rock with you" "Off the wall" "Thriller" to name a few and also wrote George Bensons "Give me the night". Crazy stuff...
@@patdug286 Exactly!
Yup, Rod Temperton is that dude
@@patdug286 Wow, thanks for sharing that. Makes sense when I think of the quality of Heatwave's material.
#Facts Rod Temperton was a big part of Michael's success and the success of all the artists Q produced in the 80's. The Brothers Johnson, George Benson, James Ingram, Patti Austin, etc... Rod wrote and arranged many of the hits. Also the studio musicians were very important. Greg Phillinganes, John Robinson, David Williams, Paul Jackson Jr., Louis Johnson, Paulino Da Costa, Steve Lukather, Jeff Porcaro. The A Team across the board. 🎤🎹🎸🔥
It really does sound like one voice - never realized it was 5!
Why the re-release? (Paulette is the best so it's still worth a rewatch!)
Probably copyright issues. Just watch, like, and comment just like you did on the last one. 💛
I definitely felt like I've seen this before...
It's just a primer for the next episode with special guest: Quincy Jones.
Def worth any rewatch w her. So interesting plus what a lovely person she appears to be❣️🌈TY!
I love hearing and seeing Paulette! Her take on the musicianship and musicians is so insightful. She is a delight. (and so are both of you guys, I love the Scary Pockets arrangements I've heard.)
The Paulette McWilliams Show continues... thumbs up every time y'all.
Rest in peace maestro Quincy Jones ❤
I’m looping the off the wall album for the last month. Such a masterpiece. You guys really made my week with this video!
Paulette is just the Greatest, having been a part of so much Beautiful music. She looks 32 ,not 72 !! Beautiful!
Rock With You is a Ron Temperton (from Heatwave) song. He wrote the melody and the arrangement. There's a demo on YT with his arrangement and guide vocals on top. And it's really close to what it became, with the same drum intro and organ parts. He wrote Off The Wall, the song and Thriller, the song too.
Rock with You ( Michael Jackson), a woman needs love(Ray Parker hr.), let's groove tonight (earth, wind, and Fire), and tell me if you still care (s.o.s. band), are my ultimate favorite songs. I was a little girl, and anytime I hear these songs, it is like my youthful soul smiles with glee.😇🙏❤️👍🤗
Was super fun to see Paulette speak to music she was a part of making. What a joy to watch! and drums were so so crisp on all of these tracks.
Great video. Wonderful insights about the tracks as well as being a performer. Hard to believe this beautiful women is 71 she doesn’t look like she’s left her 50s and her voice still sounds fantastic. This new (to me) channel is easily amongst my fave content. Right up there with Harry Mack Omegele videos, The Terrell Show, Tara Simons Studios, Crooked Media, Beau of the Fifth Column, The Lex Fridman Podcast and The Pat McAfee Show. Keep up the excellent work!
Oh wow! Amazing seeing the crossover of youtubers for someone else here. Shout out to Harry Mack and Terrel Show
Loved loved loved the history and the knowledge shared as a fellow musician, especially the part when it comes to the importance of confidence and the feelings around age, the antidote to fear being gratitude & acceptance of who you are from simply being a musician.
Absolutely loved this episode! You all seem such lovely people, and are obviously ridiculously skilled! My favourite part was when you talked about gratitude, really poignant stuff. Keep on being you, love your music and your enthusiasm! 😀
Paulette is back!!! I love her so much!!! :D the best stories and best voice :3
Just discovered this channel and I've been binging for a few hours. It's great content, I'm learning a lot! 16:29 this part was beautiful. I needed to heart that, it was like a caress to my heart 😭
Amazing episode hearing some of the history behind two of my favourite MJ songs. Just can't get enough of these 'interviews'!
Paulette … what voice! Just the one line she sand here was so full of depth! Bring her back!! 😊
She's so beautiful! Her voice is golden. She looks amazing for her age
CRAAAZY how Paulette is singing on that song, it's my favorite michel jackson song and like i grew up listening to him and shit
Paulette is just so loveable. I would have just wanted to hug her. What a great human.
Man , give the poor woman time to answer , please !
She does not look as if she is 72 years old , I mean she look good for 72 years old , which makes it hard to believe . RESPECT !!!!!!
Not only does she looks good but sounds great as well and once again , RESPECT !!!!!!!!
When you sing back-up for Michael, You are an Extension... of... The... Man.
- Kenny Ortega
Paulette is 72 wow! Hats off, she looks amazing!
Alright the minute 17:35 was my favorite take out from this episode. The antidote to fear is gratitude 🙏
This vid gets a rewatch cuz I love this channel and I love Paulette.
Bad seems to be a transitional album, because it was still Quincy producing, but you could definitely hear the move toward the sound of Dangerous and his later stuff at that point.
Quincy needed MJ. 99 percent mj 1 percent quincy. MJ repeated all throughout the 90s
I love how you had her explain a blend. Really cool.
Loved this, thank you!
I love these stories so much,and what a wonderful lady!
Absolutely one will never exaggerate the significance of mr. Rod Temperton, when talking about the connection of
Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson ! Definitely that is the fact.
That 9sus4 (like Bb/C) in the strings is *such* a Quincy signature. It's everywhere! You can certainly hear when Silk Sonic pulls from his style.
What an awesome video! Weirdly, from all the research I've done, it seems Paulette was cut from the final mix of "Rock of You"! I don't hear her in the original acapella...
Yes! Love Paulette.
At 11:40 that's contrary motion. Counterpoint is when there are two different melodies at the same time with non-matching rhythms. Awesome video, Paulette is a treasure.
She’s wonderful! Can’t believe I’ve never heard the name before.
Such a great video, love learning and hearing about behind the scenes stuff and how these master pieces were made!!!!
OMG Paulette have the recipe for eternal youth, she looks amazing!
I enjoy yall so much. I love music but know nothing of the mechanics and architecture of it. You and your guest give me some idea of the creativity and genius of creating musical art. I grew up with MJ and as an adult have mixed feeling about him. He is the personification of WOW. I am almost 62 and listen to OFF The WALL and THRILLER so often. I hope in time that the music, Michael's music can be separated from the troubled man and just be appreciated without a caveat.
Some of us are already there. I've never had trouble separating the art from the artist. In fact, I met one of my all-time fave musicians/songwriters who was rude to me, but it didn't affect my love of his music. Think of all the artists who have stories we know nothing about. People often do shitty things. If we just cancelled everyone who's ever done something shitty, there'd be very little art left to enjoy.
I don't really like this narrative of the troubled artist, who has to separated from his art. One: most of the stories about MJ are just hush.hush. Two: most artists are troubled. Van Gogh cut his ear... he even painted a portrait of himself after the "accident". Dali was pretty much a weirdo. So was his art. Picasso was a centre of the artist world and a not-easy to live with according to his last wife and daughter (though he was over 70 by then, so...). And let me not continue withBach's contant quarrels, Beethovens hopeless marriage offers and grumpy personality, and so on.
What we should actually separate are the gosspis and media frenzy from factual information about an artist. And let me just add: listen to the interviews with MJ. NOBODY, not one polished journalist ever cared to make an interview about his art. Well, that's not true, Ebony was the only magazine which made interviews with sense with him. He was the top artist and all they wanted to ask him about was his private life and health issues. Says a lot about the media and their stories. Or more like: their agenda.
I love her she's brilliant new subscriber really enjoying your videos. Best wishes from England!
What an awesome episode! So exciting to hear these stories. You bring the best guests on, keep ‘em coming!
Anyone else want the next part of that Cannonball Adderley story?
Yes, meeting Cannonball then working with Luther Vandross hopefully that means she worked with Nat Adderley. I would like to hear the entire story...connect the dots😊❤
16:17 I love how you can see the exact moment Ryan gets that joke in his head and he’s just watching for her to finish up what she’s saying.. lol chefs kiss👌
This is an amazing website. I am learning so much about the music industry.
Every week I wait for this, this is my new addiction!! You guys are an absolute blast. Ly xoxo
I love that you are so starstruked about MJ.. I love your reaction and knowledge about music.love from Denmark 🇩🇰
You guys are awesome, you brought back the way I used to listen to music you guys are amazing at pointing things out I never noticed before
RIP Rod Temperton song writer and arranger
Rock with you.
What's interesting about the last question is that Quincy produced "Bad" as well. I think they're dead on with the technology evolution, as well as Mike's need for growth.
You guys bring awesomeness into the world and this conversation was especially meaningful for me. #gratitude #spotlightonwomen
The late British songwriter Rod Temperton former organist/songwriter of Heatwave was amazing! He wrote "Rock with You", "Thriller", etc. for MJ; "Mystery" for The Manhattan Transfer later remade by Anita Baker, etc.
I never knew she sang on Rock With You. I thought it was all Michael singing all of Rock With You and Don't Stop.
Greg Phillinganes wrote the bridge for ‘don’t stop til you get enough’. He was not credited. He often discusses it in interviews
Oh really? Wow!
he was credited, stop making things up. He just didn't get co-writer credit, he got credit as arranger. Since what he added was actually an arrangment part it's a matter of interpretation if that counts as co-writing or arranging.
He was given credit for what he actually did on every song he worked on. He is mentioned many times in Mike’s autobiography itself. And I honestly don’t give weight to anyone’s word who is trying to get theirs after Mike’s death but were all grateful & praises when he was alive. Too low..
@@richardkovacs2006 it's more than arrangement imo
@@loubamour your opinion doesn't matter. Since next to the whole song it's less than 20% what he added and added just to aerangement of the bridge (not the whole bridge, mind you), arrangement credit is just as fine. Q stirring things up in the background (because it was him, who pushed Greg about it, Greg was fine with arrangement credits before Q started to tell he shouldn't) is quite tasteless. I wouldn't be surpries if it was him who told MJ to give Greg just arrangement frwdits after MJ said he wanna guve co-writing credits to Greg. After all Q was the producer, not MJ...
Classic. I love it!!
Awesome Interview ❤
I'm keen to hear Paulette do some Pockets tunes.
Finally!! This episode is incredible
15:35 The song Paulette mentions - "Everything Must Change" - is performed by Mick "Simply Red" Hucknall and Chaka Khan at the Montreux Jazz Festival (2008) with Quincy Jones conducting. It's a superb rendition of a poetic song written by Bernard Ighner (also mentioned by Paulette). I was surprised the guys didn't recognise it when Paulette sang a few bars . . .
Great. More Paulette, please.
They definitely made history. I’m blessed to have come of age during a time where all these creative musical forces converged
My God was this a beautiful episode
@Jack Conte, or anyone else, what is the song playing in the background during the introductions? For example, that funky riff at 0:54 is incredible!
I watched this, again.
It's amazing.
Give the fans what we want: more Paulette!!
So happy that Paulette returned!
Just an FYI: the subtitles are wrong from about 15:00 onwards, I guess due to a last-minute editing change?
Thanks for the heads up Job. I'll change them now.
"Rock With You" changed my life in 8th grade
one of the best produced albums ever!!! I love that record!!!!
Paulette is so likable! Instant crush.
Loved this. The message of confidence was timely.
Please we need more Michael Jackson episodes, jacksons too
Loved this ep!
Jack or Ryan any thoughts on Stromae?
Sorta popular but still very underrated and a true artist. I'm sure there's plenty intended meaning in his stuff and I think he'd make for an awesome episode!
Truly would love to see your guys' perspective on some of his stuff.
Absolutely love the channel keep it up!
I hoped it was another episode with Paulette, but a rewatch is okay too!
Feels like you guys gradually make better and better vids love this
Fantastic stuff!
JR Robinson's groove on Rock With You is killing. It's funky but also pulls the song along.
Paulette’s voice is amazing.
Truly a legend
Love these. Please keep doing stuff like this!!
Paulette is great! But when will you guys get Greg Phillinganes in?
That'd be awesome!
Me too,I can't wait to get the Great Greg Phillinganes on the show...
There’s an amazing demo to “don’t stop ‘til you get enough” on the off-the-wall anniversary edition where the Jacksons, including Janet, are playing the percussion and keys as Michael figures out the song.
If Michael had not gone solo I could see the Jacksons having been relevant for another decade or more.
Paulette is a positive soul. I love her so much
They forgot to mention rod temperton for rock with you.... he wrote that masterpiece.... but props to Quincy Jones and Bruce swedien... the sound of off the wall is one of the best sounding albums sonically I’ve ever heard even to this day
So cool 👍
Think you so much 👍👍👍👍
You are not 72! Whatever your age is, you are beautiful. Also-- as a child of the same era- I really appreciate you featuring Q and MJ. I learned so much!
Great questions, Jack. You guys are talking about my shit now! Off The Wall came out when I was 13, and I could not get enough of "Don't Stop" and "Rock With You". Luckily, KSOL played those tracks _constantly._ 😀 (BTW, the RWY bassline is an absolute clinic!)
As great as Thriller is, OTW is my preferred album. It was the first time Quincy and Micheal released lightning from their collective bottle, and there's something magical about it that never gets old to me.
Keep on talking to legends like Paulette! Hearing stories about her experience working with giants of the industry is endlessly fascinating. 😎
Disco-Funk duo! Off the wall have NOTHING "pop" and LOTS of Disco! and the very best song of that album is the incredibly amazing get on the floor with the legendary Louis Johnson on bass.
@@margix1172 Well, I obviously love the album, but given that "Don't Stop" and "Rock With You" were both #1 on the charts, they're pop by definition.
@@BassByTheBay Disco filled the charts with lots of songs and they were and are very different from ordinary pop, off the wall is the perfect DISCO album , they are POPular DISCO songs.
@@margix1172 I was listening to radio non-stop at the time. The term "disco" has come to encompass a much broader category of music than it did when OTW came out. Most record stores had music categories of rock, soul, country, classical, and jazz; a few stores had more fine-grained categories including disco, but I bought this album in the "soul" section in 1979. Disco was pretty specific; it was characterized by very straight grooves with an emphasis on smooth (i.e., not funky) grooves/sounds/arrangements. Artist like Tavares and Sylvester were making more "pure" disco -- that's why their music wasn't as popular.
Point being that Michael and Quincy had very strong pop sensibilities, and that was reflected in their songwriting and arranging. There are disco _elements_ in OTW, but I wouldn't consider it a disco album, and I didn't hear anyone who enjoyed it at the time refer to it as disco. "Rock with You" was the most disco-esque hit from the album, and even then it was different from the disco that got played in clubs. "It's the Falling in Love" had the most pure disco moments of the album during the choruses. Like most music then, OTW borrowed from multiple sources, and that's why I think classifying it strictly as a disco album is inaccurate. Like most pop, it had different elements to it. It was clearly a dance record, but so was all the funk I was listening to then -- and funk is NOT the same as disco :-).
And remember, Michael embraced being called "The King of Pop", and the public called him that for a reason. But regardless of how any of us want to classify OTW, I'm sure we can agree it's a fantastic album.
@@BassByTheBay I think is because in USA people are afraid to label a record as "disco" because of the dumb idiots that started the "disco sucks" movement but the truth is that disco changed everything , the raw funk become exactly like OTW...smooth funk that it is disco. Of course into the disco genre there are many sub styles and OTW is disco - funk while giorgio moroder is electro-disco and so on. Don't forget also that all over the world the term disco was used even after americans stopped to use it. And above all the term disco is way better than "pop" that means nothing, pop can be everything but disco is a dance style with great musicians a pulsating bass an heart beating 4/4 drums often an entire orchestra and amazing vocals many pop don't even have one of these features. I'm sorry but OTW is the perfect disco album ...well let's say disco-funk .
6:46 - Indeed, Jack. You could even say that that pocket is _scary._
Great episode as always.
I would like to see your analyzis of ABBA. They had a break from music for 40 years and came back last year with a new album. I can't think of another group doing that. It would be nice to see your analyzis of one of their new songs like "Don't shut me down". And then maybe compare it to their earlier work. "Don't shut me down" have so many layers of music going on in the background I think you would appreciate just analyzing that bit.
72???- no way!!!
Superb.