the thing I hate about what people do to their cars is they buy some 17 year old car, spend $4,000 on wheels, $3,000 on a sound system, but they can't service the transmission or change 17 year old radiator hoses, or even change the fuel filter and then a rotted radiator hose blows out 200 miles form home and they are broke and come to me asking to borrow money to get it out of the impound yard and towed to a shop... FIX all the mechanical stuff first, then wheels and sound system...
Regarding debadging: the designer made the rear of the vehicle with its badges in mind, so if you take them off, it often leaves these huge empty spaces that just look wrong.
Two reasons for de-badge: 1) if you drive e.g. a Merc C or E class, you may not want everybody to recognise which one you drive, especially if it's one of the upper tiers (at least in here in Switzerland, we don't like to show off). 2) Vandalism, especially by so called environmentaliists, as they target luxury vehicles
@@reto3685 I find it very hard to believe that these vandals know enough about cars to understand what the badges mean but are also too stupid to recognize a luxury car just because you remove the badge.
I personally tend to prefer the look of vehicles when debadged. The first thing I did when I bought my newest car was removing the "fusion" and "ecoboost plaitinum" badges. Looks MUCH better to me.
Up-badging is gross, but anyone who really knows cars will be able to spot a fake from a mile away. So I figure it is just someone who knows nothing about cars doing an add-on, in the same vein as AutoZone fender vents and such. Or some guy who knows he has a shitty base 318 and is jut having a bit of fun trolling the car world and all the people who freak out about it. As far as de-badging, I personally don't care for it, but it can fit the aesthetic of certain builds. But for why, just personal preference, "clean look" as you said. Down-badging, however, is something I've always wanted to do on a sleeper. A tuned F10 M5 with base bumpers, single outlet exhaust, and a 528i badge would be a riot to drive around and drop jaws.
the new thing that I've seen in my state NYC, we have window tint laws where if it's too dark you'll get a ticket ,,but I'm seeing super dark tint on the side glass and now which is absolutely insane to me people are tinting their front windshields super dark ,that's insane to me
I do 5% all around and 30% on my windshield. Never had an issue seeing at night. To be fair, my eyes are VERY photo sensitive, so I don't do it for looks. On sunny days I STILL need to wear sunglasses lmao
With the whole do it at the race track. In Australia racetracks have all been getting closed. Don't know how it is in the states. I'm not one for burnouts but the govt really takes the fun out of everything
One thing I did was add a bull bar to the front of my 2010 Pilot 4wd. I live rurally and it may actually help should I encounter a deer. I drive slowly on the backroads because of deer. And, I liked the look. Otherwise, I am not a fan of add ons.
I hate when it people dump old cars because the transmission or engine repairs cost more then there current value. The same people go and buy KIAs and Hyundai's, engine poops after the warranty and blame the automaker. Same thing happened in the 1970s with "junky" 1950s cars.
When I was 17 and just got my license I had a 1984 Buick Century and I wrote Type-R on the trunk in Sharpie. Every Civic in my area had a Type-R badge and many other Hondas as well so I figured I’ll just be a dick and mock them 😆
I pretty much agree with most of your gripes, but I do have a comment about traction control. Unless it's raining, I almost always hit the VDC button in the Z after starting. Two reasons 1) I once tried to launch hard from a stop to get across traffic. VDC cut power and damn near left me like a sitting duck because it detected wheel spin. 2) Maybe I'm wrong, but the throttle feels less responsive in spirited driving with it on. I do get the general concern though. (see plethora of "Mustangs leaving Cars and Coffee" videos). That said, I have a sports sedan as well and I rarely ever turn its pretty spiffy VDC equivalent off. I can't tell a difference dynamically, and I once scared myself silly going through a corner wonky with it off. It knows better than me, I'll admit it.
I had a similar situation with the traction control in my previous car. Cut power on me as I was entering a highway from the side road because one wheel caught some loose debris. I was already past the debris and on the road when it decided to engage and basically brought me to a standstill in 55mph traffic, fortunately the gap in traffic was big enough that it wasn't a problem but that was terrifying.
@@AHungryHunky Maybe @PhilipTamorria should make a "why do cars do these things?" video as well? 😁 It sucks that it happens when you need your car's predictability the most. I wonder if more modern rear wheel drive cars still behave like this.
@primaltone I think it's just a fringe scenario, really. It only happened once in a specific spot right after winter, so there were a lot of small stones on the shoulder from when they lay salt and gravel
The thing with the stance community is that they like it and enjoy the hate. In addition, it’s really hard to perfect and takes A LOT of work, so they take a lot of pride in it. I have a few friends that are into stance and that’s what I’ve noticed
Why do people buy big ass SUV's and then you watch them struggle to parallel park. Pet peeve of mine is I park far away from others and still someone always parks right next to me. Lastly, a bad trend I noticed is people doing U turns at intersections. Maybe that is normal in their foreign country but its unacceptable driving behavior in Canada so stop doing it.
@PhilipTamorria downbadging makes sense to me bc then only true enthusiasts can tell whether its a performance trim or not. I hppe to one day get a gr corolla when I graduate college and get a job that can afford it and I think it might be fun to replace the gr badge with an se badge. Removing the logo however, the brand logo is part of a cars design. Many cars have headlights and lines that are shaped to point towards the logo in the center of the car. Designers spend so much time on small details like this so when people remove the badge it ruins the design
Cutting up/ weaving is definitely an acquired skill from persistent understanding of traffic patterns. However, ppl claiming their "cutting up" are ussually just pushing the limit of their skill when dealing with traffic, thinking the closer the squeeze the better the driving. Brother no. Also ussually inefficient as I see those desperate to cut up end up behind the vehicles they risked anyways. Just have flow in traffic
Id have to disagree partially, because I believe anything practiced and improved upon and done well is skillful. But this isn't what I even see on the street. I just see people impatient with false ego
The problem with this line of thinking is that it reduces everyone else on the road to something similar to NPCs, with predictable programmable behavior. They are not. They are individual human beings, with individual minds that are capable of behaving in unexpected, unpredictable ways. One day, someone will do something you didn't see coming, and you or someone else will pay the price.
De-badging: yes, it does look generic. If you do not want people to know what it is, then buy the vehicle that it isn't. Only other gearheads will know or care what it is anyway, so why do it? Up-badging: yes, this is sillier. If you're going to pretend to drive an AMG, have the decency to remove the "zero" from the "S550" badge, and get the proper tires/wheels and trim if you're going to fool someone. Removing the tire nibs: never heard of it - no comment. Low-mileage vehicles: vehicles are meant to be driven. This is being done largely as a result of owners wishing to preserve the resale value. I thought a 911 GT3 RS was supposed to be on the road just the same as an Accord; it's not meant to be part of someone's investment portfolio. I'm not a fan of vehicles that are museum pieces. Aggressive camber: grotesque and unsafe and wears down tires like nothing else. Negative camber of less than 5 degrees is beneficial - on the track - but when someone's driving around with 30 degrees of negative camber on the streets, it's ridiculous and an accident waiting to happen. Large wheels with stock brakes: lots of moving mass and inertia that demands better braking. Never mind that it also wreaks havoc on the drivetrain. Tacky body kits: these add-ons are cheap and plasticky and offer no aerodynamic benefit (they actually increase your drag coefficient) and most are flimsy and will blow off the vehicle with the slightest wind resistance. Dirty/junky luxury vehicles: this happens, but is usually a second or third-owner issue. It is usually someone who took advantage of depreciation but lack appreciation (and fiduciary compensation). They bought a cheap Mercedes/BMW/Lexus and can not afford its upkeep. Burnouts/showing off: I personally never done any burnouts in my vehicles. Tires are too expensive for that, and I am secure enough in my ego to not need to have the approval of others by performing such antics. You're right: these people are filming because they're wanting to see an accident, so why offer it up and display your lack of driving skills? I rarely turn off my traction control. Only in light traffic or ideal conditions will I think to do so. Again, I'm not a burnout/drifting type of person. Brand loyalty: It's okay to be a Porsche enthusiast or a BMW enthusiast, but why not drive a Kia or a Ford from time to time? That will not hurt your Porsche passion one bit. Multiple parking spaces: parking spaces were designed to contain a SINGLE vehicle for a reason. Parking across multiple spaces is being inconsiderate of others. If you do not want your vehicle dinged, park in the rear spaces or next to a curb. Street takeovers/side shows: these really give the community a bad name. They should come to an end. As much as I dislike government interference in everything, I do not see any other solution to it. Weaving in and out of traffic: I used to do it when I was younger; I saw it as a game and a challenge until I realized I was not saving any time and that no matter how much traffic I clear, there's always more ahead.
I’ve seen many Model X with side window louvers…all of them already heavily tinted. So why add this plastic that originally came out on 80s cars for interior cooling to this modern EV with 0% tint already keeping car cool and glare free. It’s so weird. Theres no performance benefits to louvers.
09:13 I can say this is 100% true. I have lots of female friends and they all say the guys that are driving the Corolla, Prius, etc are always the biggest. The guys in the big lifted trucks are usually very "small", my best friend told me the biggest guy she was ever with drives a 2003 Lincoln Town Car that he bought from his Grandpa's estate and she married all 9x6.5 inches of him and he is only 5 ft 7 140 lbs.
If it's a black Duramax that's lifted - I know the guy. But typically he doesn't park like a jabroni. I feel attacked about the 5'4 comment LOL. And I saw that car pulled over too. I was going southbound heading to pre-op appointment.
I don't get why people lower cars that are already too low from factory, and then have to go around being extra careful at every driveway, spoon drain or speed hump so they don't scrape.
@@PhilipTamorria Oh and another one that does my head in - tinting tail lights! Why? People seem to compromise on safety for the sake of vanity. "I tint my tail lights so they work less"
What are your thoughts ? What am I wrong about here?
the thing I hate about what people do to their cars is they buy some 17 year old car, spend $4,000 on wheels, $3,000 on a sound system, but they can't service the transmission or change 17 year old radiator hoses, or even change the fuel filter and then a rotted radiator hose blows out 200 miles form home and they are broke and come to me asking to borrow money to get it out of the impound yard and towed to a shop... FIX all the mechanical stuff first, then wheels and sound system...
💯💯 do the maintenance first
But if I do the maintenance, how will people know I make poor life decisions at a glance?
@@AHungryHunky 😂
😂😂.
Yeah I do most of the maintenance on my cars myself save a ton of money and buying a used car that's 10 years old it barely deprecated
@@ashishpatel350 🤘🤘
Regarding debadging: the designer made the rear of the vehicle with its badges in mind, so if you take them off, it often leaves these huge empty spaces that just look wrong.
@@respox2191 agree 💯
Two reasons for de-badge: 1) if you drive e.g. a Merc C or E class, you may not want everybody to recognise which one you drive, especially if it's one of the upper tiers (at least in here in Switzerland, we don't like to show off). 2) Vandalism, especially by so called environmentaliists, as they target luxury vehicles
@@reto3685 That sucks, I can’t stand those hardcore treehuggers. 💯🙏
@@reto3685 I find it very hard to believe that these vandals know enough about cars to understand what the badges mean but are also too stupid to recognize a luxury car just because you remove the badge.
I personally tend to prefer the look of vehicles when debadged. The first thing I did when I bought my newest car was removing the "fusion" and "ecoboost plaitinum" badges. Looks MUCH better to me.
Up-badging is gross, but anyone who really knows cars will be able to spot a fake from a mile away. So I figure it is just someone who knows nothing about cars doing an add-on, in the same vein as AutoZone fender vents and such. Or some guy who knows he has a shitty base 318 and is jut having a bit of fun trolling the car world and all the people who freak out about it. As far as de-badging, I personally don't care for it, but it can fit the aesthetic of certain builds. But for why, just personal preference, "clean look" as you said. Down-badging, however, is something I've always wanted to do on a sleeper. A tuned F10 M5 with base bumpers, single outlet exhaust, and a 528i badge would be a riot to drive around and drop jaws.
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the new thing that I've seen in my state NYC, we have window tint laws where if it's too dark you'll get a ticket ,,but I'm seeing super dark tint on the side glass and now which is absolutely insane to me people are tinting their front windshields super dark ,that's insane to me
@@matrix3632 I mean it’s nice to have the privacy and security but if you can’t see out at night I mean it’s not worth it at that point 💯
I do 5% all around and 30% on my windshield. Never had an issue seeing at night. To be fair, my eyes are VERY photo sensitive, so I don't do it for looks. On sunny days I STILL need to wear sunglasses lmao
you are speaking my language perfectly
@@CarQuizzical 🙏💯
With the whole do it at the race track. In Australia racetracks have all been getting closed. Don't know how it is in the states. I'm not one for burnouts but the govt really takes the fun out of everything
@@caesaraugustus3749 That sucks…the governments of the world as so out of touch.
I debadged my car to paint the emblems gloss black, but i put them back on. Chrome looks terrible on the majority of cars.
@@robme3660 Black is cooler but it’s becoming common these days…I don’t mind the chrome
One thing I did was add a bull bar to the front of my 2010 Pilot 4wd. I live rurally and it may actually help should I encounter a deer. I drive slowly on the backroads because of deer. And, I liked the look. Otherwise, I am not a fan of add ons.
@@lincmerc1581 🤘🤘
debadging is nice if you keep the car emblems, but remove the redundant and useless badges like turbo/supercharger, liter badges, and model names.
For example on my bmw z4 I removed the 3.0 badge and the z4 badge cause it takes away from the fact that its a bmw and clutters space on the car.
If its a higher spec badge (I.E JCW, M, AMG) I'd keep those cause its part of the car companies lineage.
@@raymondcarter7216 💯🙏
My gripe is muffler deletes. It makes the car sound like crap
@@ManuelFresh100 💯💯💯
It sounds bad because people usually also remove the resonator.
@@Brandon-uy1uv 🤘🤘
I like camber but double digit with wack ass fitment isn’t the move 😂
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I agree, other than the parking part IF you park far away in an undesirable spot. Right up front, nope, park correctly.
@@mattlimberg5763 totally 💯
I hate when it people dump old cars because the transmission or engine repairs cost more then there current value. The same people go and buy KIAs and Hyundai's, engine poops after the warranty and blame the automaker. Same thing happened in the 1970s with "junky" 1950s cars.
@@NeedForMichael999999 💯💯
When I was 17 and just got my license I had a 1984 Buick Century and I wrote Type-R on the trunk in Sharpie. Every Civic in my area had a Type-R badge and many other Hondas as well so I figured I’ll just be a dick and mock them 😆
@@californiacastle 😁😂
I pretty much agree with most of your gripes, but I do have a comment about traction control. Unless it's raining, I almost always hit the VDC button in the Z after starting. Two reasons 1) I once tried to launch hard from a stop to get across traffic. VDC cut power and damn near left me like a sitting duck because it detected wheel spin. 2) Maybe I'm wrong, but the throttle feels less responsive in spirited driving with it on. I do get the general concern though. (see plethora of "Mustangs leaving Cars and Coffee" videos).
That said, I have a sports sedan as well and I rarely ever turn its pretty spiffy VDC equivalent off. I can't tell a difference dynamically, and I once scared myself silly going through a corner wonky with it off. It knows better than me, I'll admit it.
I know what you’re saying, and yes the VDC is an older system that’s far from perfect…I just mean in general; the average person should keep it on.
I had a similar situation with the traction control in my previous car. Cut power on me as I was entering a highway from the side road because one wheel caught some loose debris. I was already past the debris and on the road when it decided to engage and basically brought me to a standstill in 55mph traffic, fortunately the gap in traffic was big enough that it wasn't a problem but that was terrifying.
@@AHungryHunky That’s crazy, literally the worst time to cut power
@@AHungryHunky Maybe @PhilipTamorria should make a "why do cars do these things?" video as well? 😁 It sucks that it happens when you need your car's predictability the most. I wonder if more modern rear wheel drive cars still behave like this.
@primaltone I think it's just a fringe scenario, really. It only happened once in a specific spot right after winter, so there were a lot of small stones on the shoulder from when they lay salt and gravel
ARE YOU IN JERSEY?
@@RedRonFJB Currently in Maryland
The thing with the stance community is that they like it and enjoy the hate. In addition, it’s really hard to perfect and takes A LOT of work, so they take a lot of pride in it. I have a few friends that are into stance and that’s what I’ve noticed
@@peter9930 I can appreciate that 💯
Why do people buy big ass SUV's and then you watch them struggle to parallel park. Pet peeve of mine is I park far away from others and still someone always parks right next to me. Lastly, a bad trend I noticed is people doing U turns at intersections. Maybe that is normal in their foreign country but its unacceptable driving behavior in Canada so stop doing it.
@@enkadude 💯💯
Debadging like removing the brand logo entirely or debadging like putting a 325i badge on an m3?
Both
@PhilipTamorria downbadging makes sense to me bc then only true enthusiasts can tell whether its a performance trim or not. I hppe to one day get a gr corolla when I graduate college and get a job that can afford it and I think it might be fun to replace the gr badge with an se badge. Removing the logo however, the brand logo is part of a cars design. Many cars have headlights and lines that are shaped to point towards the logo in the center of the car. Designers spend so much time on small details like this so when people remove the badge it ruins the design
@@mashedtomatoes1180 💯🤘 I hope you get it soon!
Cutting up/ weaving is definitely an acquired skill from persistent understanding of traffic patterns. However, ppl claiming their "cutting up" are ussually just pushing the limit of their skill when dealing with traffic, thinking the closer the squeeze the better the driving. Brother no. Also ussually inefficient as I see those desperate to cut up end up behind the vehicles they risked anyways. Just have flow in traffic
@@BluJay13 There is no skill involved, only stupidity. All it takes is one mistake
Id have to disagree partially, because I believe anything practiced and improved upon and done well is skillful. But this isn't what I even see on the street. I just see people impatient with false ego
@@BluJay13 🤦♂️
The problem with this line of thinking is that it reduces everyone else on the road to something similar to NPCs, with predictable programmable behavior. They are not. They are individual human beings, with individual minds that are capable of behaving in unexpected, unpredictable ways.
One day, someone will do something you didn't see coming, and you or someone else will pay the price.
@@AHungryHunky exactly
The negative Camber look is so goofy
@@ezzzzrrrs7646 💯💯
De-badging: yes, it does look generic. If you do not want people to know what it is, then buy the vehicle that it isn't. Only other gearheads will know or care what it is anyway, so why do it?
Up-badging: yes, this is sillier. If you're going to pretend to drive an AMG, have the decency to remove the "zero" from the "S550" badge, and get the proper tires/wheels and trim if you're going to fool someone.
Removing the tire nibs: never heard of it - no comment.
Low-mileage vehicles: vehicles are meant to be driven. This is being done largely as a result of owners wishing to preserve the resale value. I thought a 911 GT3 RS was supposed to be on the road just the same as an Accord; it's not meant to be part of someone's investment portfolio. I'm not a fan of vehicles that are museum pieces.
Aggressive camber: grotesque and unsafe and wears down tires like nothing else. Negative camber of less than 5 degrees is beneficial - on the track - but when someone's driving around with 30 degrees of negative camber on the streets, it's ridiculous and an accident waiting to happen.
Large wheels with stock brakes: lots of moving mass and inertia that demands better braking. Never mind that it also wreaks havoc on the drivetrain.
Tacky body kits: these add-ons are cheap and plasticky and offer no aerodynamic benefit (they actually increase your drag coefficient) and most are flimsy and will blow off the vehicle with the slightest wind resistance.
Dirty/junky luxury vehicles: this happens, but is usually a second or third-owner issue. It is usually someone who took advantage of depreciation but lack appreciation (and fiduciary compensation). They bought a cheap Mercedes/BMW/Lexus and can not afford its upkeep.
Burnouts/showing off: I personally never done any burnouts in my vehicles. Tires are too expensive for that, and I am secure enough in my ego to not need to have the approval of others by performing such antics. You're right: these people are filming because they're wanting to see an accident, so why offer it up and display your lack of driving skills?
I rarely turn off my traction control. Only in light traffic or ideal conditions will I think to do so. Again, I'm not a burnout/drifting type of person.
Brand loyalty: It's okay to be a Porsche enthusiast or a BMW enthusiast, but why not drive a Kia or a Ford from time to time? That will not hurt your Porsche passion one bit.
Multiple parking spaces: parking spaces were designed to contain a SINGLE vehicle for a reason. Parking across multiple spaces is being inconsiderate of others. If you do not want your vehicle dinged, park in the rear spaces or next to a curb.
Street takeovers/side shows: these really give the community a bad name. They should come to an end. As much as I dislike government interference in everything, I do not see any other solution to it.
Weaving in and out of traffic: I used to do it when I was younger; I saw it as a game and a challenge until I realized I was not saving any time and that no matter how much traffic I clear, there's always more ahead.
@@ssjlkrillin great summary 💯
debadging your car can also be because you don't want to advertise their fkn logo for free all day every day. it's yours, do what you want with it
@@darkskinwhite ok 👍
I’ve seen many Model X with side window louvers…all of them already heavily tinted. So why add this plastic that originally came out on 80s cars for interior cooling to this modern EV with 0% tint already keeping car cool and glare free. It’s so weird. Theres no performance benefits to louvers.
@@ChilledNurse 💯🤘
09:13 I can say this is 100% true. I have lots of female friends and they all say the guys that are driving the Corolla, Prius, etc are always the biggest. The guys in the big lifted trucks are usually very "small", my best friend told me the biggest guy she was ever with drives a 2003 Lincoln Town Car that he bought from his Grandpa's estate and she married all 9x6.5 inches of him and he is only 5 ft 7 140 lbs.
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Good information.
@@BrettKuntz 🤘🙏
If it's a black Duramax that's lifted - I know the guy. But typically he doesn't park like a jabroni. I feel attacked about the 5'4 comment LOL. And I saw that car pulled over too. I was going southbound heading to pre-op appointment.
Haha! It was dark grey and didn’t look lifted…it’s been awhile since I’ve seen him actually. What are you going under for?
@@PhilipTamorria torn tri. No bueno
@@lx2nv Oh damn! Speedy recovery dude!
@@PhilipTamorria time for legs and cardio for 3 months
@@lx2nv 🙏🙏
I don't get why people lower cars that are already too low from factory, and then have to go around being extra careful at every driveway, spoon drain or speed hump so they don't scrape.
@@MB-mj2xb Yea the slammed look is a little much. I like a subtle drop though but only on certain cars
@@PhilipTamorria Oh and another one that does my head in - tinting tail lights! Why? People seem to compromise on safety for the sake of vanity. "I tint my tail lights so they work less"
@@MB-mj2xb 😂💯
@@MB-mj2xb Tinted headlights and taillights are dumb if you just use halogen bulbs and not LED bulbs.
This feels like an unhinged AI wrote the script.
@@ibanez741852 you got me…
First.
@@jighflaukst 🤘🤘